Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting

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    Seth Killian and Harada clips from the documentary I Am Street Fighter: • I Am Street Fighter - ...
    BGM in order:
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    Street Fighter EX3 - Strange Sunset (Guile Theme)
    Street Fighter II - E-Honda Theme (SNES version)
    Street Fighter V - Akuma Theme
    Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - Akuma Theme
    Street Fighter III 2nd Impact - Ibuki Theme
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Комментарии • 1,9 тыс.

  • @LuckyHamburger
    @LuckyHamburger 6 лет назад +2484

    How to beat daigo:
    "Being good is a real strength of yours."

    • @wealthforthecommoners3146
      @wealthforthecommoners3146 4 года назад +203

      Holy shit you've won EVO

    • @NinthSettler
      @NinthSettler 4 года назад +52

      You'd still eat 20 umeshoryus and lose, that's how Daigo rolls

    • @Mascabar
      @Mascabar 4 года назад +143

      @@NinthSettler "Being not terrible is a real strength of yours.", I have optimised the Daigo meta

    • @321Tdog
      @321Tdog 3 года назад +75

      "Hey Daigo you're really good at plugging in your controller"

    • @velocityraptor2890
      @velocityraptor2890 3 года назад +36

      no no no, if you REALLY want to win, you say "your greatest strength is your unpredicatbility" like, how do you deal with that?

  • @bigdrippy4104
    @bigdrippy4104 5 лет назад +1364

    I love how Harada talks about the fireball when most of the games hes made have had no projectiles til recently

    • @UmbrellaSound
      @UmbrellaSound 4 года назад +89

      One can argue that Devil Jin laser is sort of projectile. And it was there since Tekken 3

    • @liamsemicolon
      @liamsemicolon 3 года назад +148

      @@UmbrellaSound actually, the laser has been there there since tekken 2, where it was used by devil and angel

    • @UmbrellaSound
      @UmbrellaSound 3 года назад +34

      @@liamsemicolon thanks for correction mate.

    • @liamsemicolon
      @liamsemicolon 3 года назад +26

      @@UmbrellaSound noprobs dude

    • @Jerry_SSBB
      @Jerry_SSBB 3 года назад +20

      Jinpachi in Tekken Tag 2 can shoot fireballs.

  • @Krystalmyth
    @Krystalmyth 6 лет назад +1494

    "I can see why some people would call it spam."
    *Highlights High Sodium Levels*
    I love you.

    • @RanOutOfSpac
      @RanOutOfSpac 3 года назад +8

      I can’t believe I didn’t catch that omg.

    • @yaeven4943
      @yaeven4943 3 года назад +12

      @@Azu_Crystal Yes, we got the joke. Thanks.

  • @ishgardiandad8250
    @ishgardiandad8250 4 года назад +1128

    My favorite projectile character is definitely Adon. Now, you may be saying "Adon doesnt have any". Youre wrong his voice is so annoying it's basically a fireball hitting me irl.

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 года назад +114

      Muting the game is my counterpick.

    • @Flyingboy25
      @Flyingboy25 4 года назад +28

      AAAHHH JAGUAR KICK!

    • @misterrandom3544
      @misterrandom3544 4 года назад +6

      @@Freefork that way you dont have to block

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 года назад +6

      @@misterrandom3544 I still have to block the entire match... my ears are still exposed when the audience starts shouting for Adon.

    • @misterrandom3544
      @misterrandom3544 4 года назад +6

      @@Freefork I WILL SEE THEM WURSHIP ME AS A GAWD!! Lol

  • @afrikasmith1049
    @afrikasmith1049 7 лет назад +1341

    I like Cody's projectile. Alot of his opponents are using chi/ki to use as a projectile. But Cody throws rocks..... It sounds stupid compared to a fireball, but its so practical that it makes him a true Street Fighter.

  • @iamfiefo
    @iamfiefo 7 лет назад +893

    Blanka has the best "fireball" game. Because he _is_ the fireball!

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад +8

      Shout of Earth baby. Not a true fireball but it has the reach and gives the best fuzzy feeling for chipping to death.

    • @TheManTheMythD
      @TheManTheMythD 7 лет назад +31

      Confirmed: Captain Falcon is a Blanka clone.

    • @jaggedsigns3O11
      @jaggedsigns3O11 7 лет назад +30

      Lmao one must not only think like a fireball but become the fireball xD

    • @falleneldor
      @falleneldor 7 лет назад +8

      Chau Nguyen and then you realize: there is no fire ball...

    • @sabbathjackal
      @sabbathjackal 6 лет назад

      iamfiefo i think your forgetting about Kano

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 4 года назад +236

    4:30 Sun Tzu's Art of War. Don't let your opponent know their strengths and weaknesses.

    • @derushcore9514
      @derushcore9514 3 года назад +1

      *Technoblade would like to know your location*

    • @frostmirror1677
      @frostmirror1677 3 года назад +3

      @@derushcore9514 you fool, don’t reveal all of your secrets in a RUclips video, you fool, you moron

    • @andymcclurg9916
      @andymcclurg9916 3 года назад

      -Sun Tzu

  • @ClefPiano
    @ClefPiano 5 лет назад +143

    I added Spanish subtitles since December, please C-AG, enable them!
    I want to help some guys in my community who don't speak english.

  • @evmanbutts
    @evmanbutts 4 года назад +89

    As a musician, the amount of skill and timing Street Fighter, Tekken & similar fighting games take to play to the fullest is why I love them so much. They never fail to keep me focused and thinking the entire time I play, much like the intruments I enjoy playing.

  • @novikovPrinciple
    @novikovPrinciple 7 лет назад +765

    Peacock (Skullgirls) takes projectiles to their -annoying- logical extreme. "Keep-away game" is her bread and butter, and you want nothing more than to get in close and smash her cartoon-y face in.

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 7 лет назад +114

      And when she gets in close you get a Bang. and a Bang! and a football and a bomb and good god she doesn't get less obnoxious up close, there's a reason she's designed as Obnoxiousness Incarnate, and it works great

    • @kiracomfortinghishomie8351
      @kiracomfortinghishomie8351 5 лет назад +47

      But brass knuckle super armor.

    • @toki_tsu_kaze5511
      @toki_tsu_kaze5511 4 года назад +8

      Peacock is western Mech-Hisui

    • @johntopping2728
      @johntopping2728 4 года назад

      @@kiracomfortinghishomie8351 Right back atcha

    • @mrmaster3393
      @mrmaster3393 4 года назад +6

      The game even somewhat tells you to play campy

  • @Saiyanryu
    @Saiyanryu 4 года назад +85

    2:18 Thought that said "SHIT SUPER COMBO."

    • @logandunlap9156
      @logandunlap9156 3 года назад +11

      i mean compared to the long ass combos we know today, 5 hits is kinda shit

    • @Micha-Hil
      @Micha-Hil 2 года назад +1

      well, technically it is

  • @endr0891
    @endr0891 3 года назад +22

    It’s a tradition for me to watch all you videos, forget you exist for a few months, find you again, and procédé to rewatch all your videos once again. It’s an infinite cycle.

  • @ultrameijin9503
    @ultrameijin9503 7 лет назад +1818

    I'm not into Fighting Games and probably never will but your videos are always interesting. Thank you.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад +83

      It's never too late to learn but if I had to offer any advice or factors that will sway you it would be the following:
      1) Not having muscle memory and execution will frustrate the hell out of you but the satisfaction of succeeding feels especially good.
      2) Starting with a new game is both a curse and a boon since you can learn at the same time as someone else but you'll get trounced in no time.
      3) You learn to lose a lot and appreciate games in a different way.

    • @rock100010000returns
      @rock100010000returns 7 лет назад +53

      Also when you do win after many many losses it is thrilling. I've played around 40 games of SFV at this point and have won 3. Am I good? No. Am I better than I was 5 days ago? Oh yes. That's what is keeping me playing.

    • @violet5188
      @violet5188 7 лет назад +5

      aotero u Y tho

    • @chantingzhang
      @chantingzhang 6 лет назад +15

      Playing fighting games require a special kind of temperament
      an ability to munch defeat like a casual snack
      That is what I learned, about why I cannot play fighting games at all after 10+ years of trying to get into it
      I am just taking every moment and every defeat too seriously, and that made fighting games impossible for me.
      I love watching people play but I don't think I will ever get the mental cool to get into the thing.

    • @lukelblitz3627
      @lukelblitz3627 6 лет назад +11

      same
      i have never been a fighting guy,i only really like skullgirls,but all the intricacies and the culture behind this genre are mind boggling

  • @Luky75
    @Luky75 7 лет назад +724

    Wait what
    "Spam" meat and "spam" as I use it today are actually related?
    Whoa

    • @Luky75
      @Luky75 7 лет назад +6

      And great video as always, thanks! I hate projectiles with a passion, so it's valuable info.

    • @TealPersonal
      @TealPersonal 7 лет назад +19

      Learn something new everyday!

    • @zackdoom
      @zackdoom 7 лет назад +26

      I learned that in school from my history teacher when learning about WW2
      it's weird how spam evolved to "spam" lmao

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 7 лет назад +10

      and thats goes to show the genious of monthy phyton.

    • @pnyhmsmx
      @pnyhmsmx 7 лет назад

      Marcos Danilo I wasn't aware that they were responsible for that till now.

  • @Phychologik
    @Phychologik 5 лет назад +93

    7:18 This is actual next level comedy

  • @theladypalecorn7750
    @theladypalecorn7750 7 лет назад +11

    Fox and Falco in Melee are perfect examples of fireballs in Smash. They can cause you to become frustrated and force you to approach. Falco's lasers stun you, making you act more defensive. Fox's lasers don't cause stun, but rack up damage fast, forcing you to approach and be offensive. I love it how these two moves that are almost the exact same cause you to do completely different things

  • @Mangosta12jr
    @Mangosta12jr 7 лет назад +666

    My favourite projectile fighter? Hugo

    • @ew275x
      @ew275x 7 лет назад +196

      My favorite Projectile? R. Mika's ass.

    • @Mangosta12jr
      @Mangosta12jr 7 лет назад +14

      ew275x Yeh, you know it bro

    • @Walnut356
      @Walnut356 7 лет назад +88

      Nice Shot Hugo

    • @Shoop400
      @Shoop400 7 лет назад +8

      Hugo is number one.

    • @omukssbm
      @omukssbm 7 лет назад +19

      Nice Shot Hugo

  • @johndaniel8283
    @johndaniel8283 7 лет назад +318

    Favourite projectile character is hol horse from Jjba heritage to the future

    • @johndaniel8283
      @johndaniel8283 7 лет назад +28

      Its a fucking godlike move for zoning

    • @pkcreshman9790
      @pkcreshman9790 7 лет назад +10

      No Just No I take a liking to Middler in that game. Cars are fun.

    • @apex9580
      @apex9580 5 лет назад +9

      I was not expecting somebody to bring up jojo in the comments

    • @THE_BASED_GOD
      @THE_BASED_GOD 5 лет назад +2

      @@apex9580 Mariah best girl.

    • @ButterscotchPenguin
      @ButterscotchPenguin 5 лет назад +5

      I wish they had a port of that came for newer gen consoles

  • @ToshiSan121
    @ToshiSan121 3 года назад +13

    5:50 when Ken floats in the background. This editing is genius.

  • @Vampocrat
    @Vampocrat 7 лет назад +89

    One of my favorite projectile using characters has to be Dizzy in Guilty Gear, because she has so much variety to the projectiles in how each one has its own strategy to utilize, and have different purposes, making her dangerous from any range, as well as rather unpredictable.

  • @zackdoom
    @zackdoom 7 лет назад +239

    Favourite projectile character
    Sean ft.Basketball

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад +15

      Adds pressure, builds up your stun output when it connects, super stereotypitcal, what's not to love about it ^_^

    • @Dxsmp
      @Dxsmp 7 лет назад +2

      zackdoom yea throw the basketball at there ass

    • @Burger_pants
      @Burger_pants 7 лет назад

      second best video I ever made, 2 Ibuki Air-super stuffs with basketballs then I managed to kill her with it.

    • @Mfdude716
      @Mfdude716 7 лет назад

      Zacharis best way to ko someone with Sean.

    • @unclesam530
      @unclesam530 5 лет назад

      +Zacharis & Dudley's rose throw for the ladies ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)

  • @CoreAGaming
    @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад +444

    To answer my own question, Crow from Rising Thunder. RIP.

    • @WilkenKear
      @WilkenKear 7 лет назад

      Vlad and his TK rocket. :'(

    • @bb010g
      @bb010g 7 лет назад

      Core-A Gaming Did you get to ask S-Kill about his work at Riot when you interviewed him? :D

    • @MastaStefMedia
      @MastaStefMedia 7 лет назад +1

      Core-A Gaming crow was literally the worst thing. but I played talos so I may be biased. lol

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад

      Brayden Banks That was a clip from the I Am Street Fighter documentary. I highly recommend it.

    • @ZyxWhitewind
      @ZyxWhitewind 7 лет назад +3

      3s Remy.

  • @marcuswilcock4300
    @marcuswilcock4300 7 лет назад +46

    Hi Core, I must say I am absolutely loving the quality of your videos. I've appreciated fighting games for a long time (never been proficient at any though!) and the vast amount of factors that you bring to light (such as mind game, theories, game design etc) just show how intricate these games actually are. I hope to see more from you in the future, keep doing what you do! :D

  • @ianlove3217
    @ianlove3217 4 года назад +40

    As bad competitively as he is, I really liked Remy from 3rd Strike. Mixing Sagat's highs and lows with Guile's charge commands and overall playstyle is a fun idea, and I especially like that the EX versions of his projectiles throw two at once that travel in wacky trajectories. If they ever bring him back for another SF game I would love to see the developers tinker around more with him.

  • @FinalDragoon
    @FinalDragoon 7 лет назад +33

    My favorite projectile fighters are Gouken and Gardevoir. Gouken is the opposite of Akuma in that he has anti-air fireballs so you can make a game out of how your opponent reacts to normal fireballs. Gardevoir just takes projectiles to a whole new level in Pokken, easily one of the top 5 zoning characters in all of fighting games.

    • @MBValentine
      @MBValentine Год назад

      Energy Ball and its followup would legit be a top 5 move in any game that wasn't Pokken
      God I miss that game

  • @yukmoutb5885
    @yukmoutb5885 7 лет назад +53

    that HDKN on a spam can is genius.

  • @AndrewIHanna
    @AndrewIHanna 5 лет назад +404

    Them: cheap projectile spamming. I, an intellectual: tactical zoning

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 4 года назад +4

      back in the days of tekken tag and tekken 4 i mastered tactical zoning with lei wulong.
      it was so awesome when they just got scared of you.....i even hit someone with an unblockable.....

    • @bendover2684
      @bendover2684 4 года назад

      *me

  • @roopeheikkinen430
    @roopeheikkinen430 6 лет назад +322

    "Hey you know that Daigo guy?"
    "yea, he's super good at not losing."
    i just ruined his competitive career :)

    • @W.H.V.
      @W.H.V. 4 года назад +5

      Damn, you really just did that.

  • @kingcrowbro2486
    @kingcrowbro2486 7 лет назад +146

    Favorite Projectile Character?
    Nu-13 from the Blazblue series. Fireballs are her game...or rather, Swords are her game. Lots and lots and lots of swords. It's some pretty great stuff.

    • @Ragnanivan
      @Ragnanivan 7 лет назад

      Ayyy J Gamer I didn't know you watched this stuff too

    • @WFoong98
      @WFoong98 7 лет назад +8

      Also projectiles from opponents back are really good.

    • @kingcrowbro2486
      @kingcrowbro2486 7 лет назад +4

      *Ayyy* There's that boi, oh shit what up?!
      Course I watch this stuff bro (I just wish he'd bring up Blazblue a bit more but it's cool)

    • @ignap
      @ignap 7 лет назад

      JGamer king Agreed, she is so cool looking

    • @Roymoney1998
      @Roymoney1998 7 лет назад +4

      Was about to say the same but another cool aspect is how a lot of her special attacks weave her in and out of attack range.

  • @deadfr0g
    @deadfr0g 7 лет назад +30

    5:58
    Oh mannn, that's from a thread I made on SRK years ago! This is so exciting to me! Almost showing up in a Gerald video. Hahaha.

  • @G_Gr00v3
    @G_Gr00v3 6 лет назад +5

    I love Makoto from BlazBlue. My favorite thing about her projectiles is that you can form them, but then not throw them. So someone may block and dash, thinking you’ll throw it, but then they dash into one that’s still where you were just standing.

  • @tartsono
    @tartsono 7 лет назад +353

    Obviously the best projectile character is Melee Falco.

    • @t1glistenerelf
      @t1glistenerelf 7 лет назад +32

      I feel like ChrisG would pee his pants if he ever discovered that Falco's projectiles land-cancel and move across the stage in no time.

    • @jaggedsigns3O11
      @jaggedsigns3O11 7 лет назад +47

      its disgusting what they did to Falco in sm4sh. that laser has more lag than smash attacks.

    • @Goreblender
      @Goreblender 6 лет назад +5

      yeah but you can't kill someone with lasers like you can with hadoukens

    • @finnkliebhan2796
      @finnkliebhan2796 6 лет назад +43

      Stray Dog if they are off stage and trying to recover they can

    • @Mr.Foxhat
      @Mr.Foxhat 6 лет назад +20

      Stray Dog Hadoukens can kill, however like said in the video, they are mostly used for spacing and control over the opponent. In that case they are far more dangerous than Hadoukens.

  • @sourcreamtheunicorn7450
    @sourcreamtheunicorn7450 7 лет назад +31

    I've always found Mario's bouncing fireballs in Smash to be my favorite tool in distraction and chip damage.

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 3 года назад +12

      I can't count the number of matches where a Mario started with a fireball

    • @ksad96
      @ksad96 2 года назад +8

      @@MorphRed Mario using fireballs when recovering from being sent high, excellent way to force an opponent to make a snap decision about where to go, and Mario almost always can respond to make it back safely, but in Ultimate that's not a new or special thing, almost all characters have some way of making it back relatively safely.
      ... Almost all. *Cries in Mac*

  • @t-mofisher8922
    @t-mofisher8922 7 лет назад +5

    My favourite fireball character will always be Sagat. He's just so fundamentally sound. Low and high mixup, good anti-air game to beat late jump ins, good normals,decent damage, the whole shebang. It feels satisfying to get a win because you don't feel like you just cheesed your opponent, even if they're salty you threw so many fireballs :P

  • @dynami3783
    @dynami3783 6 лет назад +65

    RIP Cammy in the bottom screen 2017 2:49 ~ 2:51

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 3 года назад +4

      no more alpha Cammy, gone, reduced to ashes

  • @jojoshfgc
    @jojoshfgc 3 года назад +1

    i love watching core a gaming cuz sometimes he just goes way off topic and you just learn something you didn’t think you would.

  • @horplesmoff
    @horplesmoff 7 лет назад +4

    i really can't get enough of your videos!
    keep it up, man!!!

    • @URAYULI
      @URAYULI 5 лет назад

      gcfffggxds

  • @whirl3690
    @whirl3690 4 года назад +4

    Your analysis videos such as this one have gotten me into fighting games. I don't think I would have been able to appreciate these games as much as I do now if it weren't for them.

  • @jimmykeffer7401
    @jimmykeffer7401 6 лет назад +2

    Peacock from Skullgirls - her insane arsenal of projectiles and loony toons aesthetic make for a hilariously frustrating match.

  • @randaru1527
    @randaru1527 6 лет назад +30

    "The recovery is usually as long as the jump-in"
    That is unless you play Guile

    • @MansMan42069
      @MansMan42069 4 года назад +5

      Compensation for having to charge

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 года назад +1

      @@MansMan42069 personally I think charge > command,I just feel like charging is way easier

    • @MansMan42069
      @MansMan42069 3 года назад

      @@idk72. Not that it's easier, but because you need to keep it in mind.

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 года назад

      @@MansMan42069 oh yeah, that definitely is a disadvantage when playing chargers, but once you get used to it, you even start to do it for instinct, sometimes I start the rounds charging my specials with gill...

  • @GusNStuff
    @GusNStuff 4 года назад +3

    I think fox has an interesting projectile.
    Who knew that a laser that does no stun and 3% on hit would be so effective?

  • @spideycat9746
    @spideycat9746 5 лет назад +75

    How the hadouken reinvented 2D fighting: Zoners wanted something to do

  • @silva29
    @silva29 2 месяца назад

    Man I just discovered your content, I'm not even into fighting games but I can't stop watching your videos. It's a wealth of knowledge as well as witty and funny. Hope you're doing okay.

  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 3 года назад +5

    2:25
    it still baffles me how a family guy gag explains spacing so well

    • @dexi6111
      @dexi6111 3 года назад +1

      I come back to this video just to watch that clip

  • @BlackMasamuneX
    @BlackMasamuneX 7 лет назад +206

    Can you do a video about the trend of trying to make fighting games more "accessible?"

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад +60

      I have been thinking about this a lot recently, especially with Fantasy Strike coming out.

    • @BlackMasamuneX
      @BlackMasamuneX 7 лет назад +2

      Core-A Gaming I hope you do one, no rush. There's so much to say on the subject.

    • @stilmaho
      @stilmaho 7 лет назад +1

      Just an opinion but I think it is a good think if they make the game more accessible at first then slowly make it more complex. That way developers can both increase the number of customers and the size of the community in long run.

    • @CrowSpaceboy
      @CrowSpaceboy 7 лет назад +4

      It's tough to talk about fantasy strike without talking about sirlin's work as a whole. It's tough to say FS in particular is part of a trend when Sirlin has been doing this forevvvvver. I think Rising Thunder, even if it's dead, would fit that subject better.
      I hope that doesn't sound like a endorsement of FS, for the record. I run very hot and cold with his various projects.

    • @mayusocarina
      @mayusocarina 7 лет назад

      I agree, do this.

  • @jfncho
    @jfncho 7 лет назад +211

    7:17 I see what you did there lol #salty

  • @opsimathics
    @opsimathics 7 лет назад +103

    remember guys, when we do it, it's spamming
    when the pros do it, it's zoning lol

    • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
      @DrEarthwormRobotnik 3 года назад +9

      There's a difference between Zoning and Spamming. Spamming is just literally throwing out the same move without really thinking about it, whereas zoning is using fireballs for keepaway and with strategy.

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 3 года назад +4

      Dr. Earthworm Robotnik, thing is both absolutely incinerate scrubs, one just does it faster with less brain effort required

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 3 года назад

      @@kingkrispy5289 Spamming jab

    • @kingkrispy5289
      @kingkrispy5289 3 года назад

      MorphRed me and the boys boutta walk at someone on their wake up then block their DP

    • @yeetusthemfetus1436
      @yeetusthemfetus1436 3 года назад

      Both are a pain to deal with

  • @clarencemayer323
    @clarencemayer323 5 лет назад +1

    Poongko's dance at 2:00 are top tier lol

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon 7 лет назад +31

    nice stick bruv

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад +34

      Just not-so-subtle bragging lol.

  • @flerphead
    @flerphead 7 лет назад +90

    Old Sagat. Cause I'm an asshole.

    • @RikouHogashi
      @RikouHogashi 7 лет назад

      Alpha 1 Sagat's Tiger Uppercut is boss

  • @SJNaka101
    @SJNaka101 4 года назад +16

    "If someone says I'm good at something, I deny it and try to do other things"
    Me: Wow, you're really good at winning

  • @Gamer-pc3sf
    @Gamer-pc3sf 4 года назад +116

    "Analysis: How the Hadouken Reinvented 2D Fighting"
    Sagat: *am i a joke to you?*

    • @rashidisw
      @rashidisw 4 года назад +13

      well... in earlier release of Street Fighter arcade, you can't play as Sagat.

    • @jorge4572
      @jorge4572 4 года назад +3

      *laughs in Sonic boom*

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq 4 года назад +1

      *laughs in IaMP*

    • @themilkomedanodyssey6053
      @themilkomedanodyssey6053 4 года назад +1

      *laughs in soku*

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq 4 года назад

      @@themilkomedanodyssey6053 ahh, a fellow soku player, (i main youmu and utsuho, what's your main)
      both of them were groundbreaking imo
      IaMP invented the conecpt of grazing and replaced footsies with projectiles
      soku (and SWR) added to this concept by adding flight and the deck system (which is one of the things i miss in the floaters)

  • @schizophist2963
    @schizophist2963 7 лет назад +3

    just found this channel and i love the content that you're making man, i just rekindled my love for fighting games and street fighter and all of these vids have made me think deeper about fighting games and put the community in perspective, you sir gotta new sub.

  • @therealkzero
    @therealkzero 7 лет назад +5

    Favorite projectile character? Probably Spinal from Killer Instinct. They're skulls that drain/stop meters. SKULLS!

  • @LordJackass
    @LordJackass Год назад +1

    _"Wow Daigo, your unpredictability is a real strength of yours!"_

  • @rafael471992
    @rafael471992 7 лет назад +1

    Just wanna say that as a very casual fighting game fan, you produce the most interesting content BY FAR! I m glad I found you! Keep up the great work!

  • @misstahj5651
    @misstahj5651 7 лет назад +55

    Morrigan from UMvC3 Kappa

    • @TurnOntheBrightLights.
      @TurnOntheBrightLights. 7 лет назад +13

      Misstah J SO-SO! SO-SO! SO-SO!

    • @cheef825
      @cheef825 7 лет назад +1

      wtf so annoying

    • @DepressionShaman
      @DepressionShaman 5 лет назад +1

      Fuck Morrigan! I HATE THAT BITCH! OMG so many bad memories in Capcom vs SNK 2. LOL

  • @dylanbussell3745
    @dylanbussell3745 5 лет назад +21

    Belmont, I’m extremely late to the party, but Belmont

  • @Karanagi
    @Karanagi 6 лет назад

    Your videos continue to impress. Not just as an analysis of fighting games, but of the underlying dynamics that all games adhere to.

  • @dracomundo1498
    @dracomundo1498 6 лет назад +2

    Arthur from UMVC3 helped me learn and practice executing Hado's consistently, so I have some memories with him

  • @mwoakill09
    @mwoakill09 7 лет назад +4

    I watch for you for your analysis, I love you for your analysis. Give me more analysis

  • @anthemofadam
    @anthemofadam 7 лет назад +33

    You are doing gods work! If I buy sfv, it's because of this video.

  • @victorlacerda8015
    @victorlacerda8015 7 лет назад

    I don't even play fighting games but have watched all of your videos because they're so thorough and well put together.

  • @royerthedestroyer7
    @royerthedestroyer7 5 лет назад +3

    7:30 I discovered something similar with Guy back in Super Street Fighter 4 where I used a crouching medium kick and his animation makes him dodge fireballs too.

    • @RetroPillowcase
      @RetroPillowcase 4 года назад

      Ok thanks. I couldn’t see what they were amazed by

  • @thelightseeker94
    @thelightseeker94 7 лет назад +20

    Strange Sunset nice.

  • @scyllasemusic2254
    @scyllasemusic2254 3 года назад +3

    1:46 "Calculations and reads"
    **Proceeds to show ChrisG's soulfist spam clip**
    "Sure dood"

  • @cookerlv
    @cookerlv 5 лет назад

    I like how unique spacie lasers are in Melee. Both Fox and Falco have projectiles which are much, much faster than a standard fireball, and they both have unique effects.

  • @uyaipek7054
    @uyaipek7054 7 лет назад +1

    Your videos are combination of great research and execution. They are high level production quality.

  • @NMGardening
    @NMGardening 7 лет назад +4

    great video! it makes me stoked for the new Akuma the cowardly lion... he's gonna be my mane.

  • @Eggroll3s
    @Eggroll3s 5 лет назад +8

    Thumbnail: *PUT ME ON A SHIRT*

  • @ismailsimsek332
    @ismailsimsek332 5 лет назад

    i actually dont know why i binge watch your videos, i dont even listen to you man but its addicting in some strange sense

  • @kmaru80
    @kmaru80 7 лет назад

    so glad I stumbled across this channel. This is some of the most interesting content I've found in awhile. Happy new sub.

  • @RinInABin
    @RinInABin 7 лет назад +18

    2:11 I need this clip of Daigo in a lab coat for research reasons
    where can i get it

    • @sandrin0
      @sandrin0 7 лет назад +7

      /watch?v=q9GdfG1kd_0 daigo teaching kuroda the secrets of the fireball

    • @RinInABin
      @RinInABin 7 лет назад +7

      Samir Velshi
      Thank you. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury 6 лет назад

      why is it so fitting that the person talking like le ebin redditor is racist

  • @sabbathjackal
    @sabbathjackal 7 лет назад +5

    ok full screen haduken canceldash forward shoryuken. there now you can hit those jumpers. bonus if you launch him bacwards into your fireball

  • @glench4693
    @glench4693 7 лет назад

    I dont play much fighting games and I always love watching videos like this

  • @monchete9934
    @monchete9934 6 лет назад +2

    Nu-13 from Blazblue (RIP Drive Button). Es also has two projectiles that when they match (small window btw) they become a bigger projectile with more knockback (enough to trigger a wakeup)

  • @wamblo8966
    @wamblo8966 5 лет назад +110

    Worst projectile character?
    PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE 🔥PK FIRE🔥
    If your ptsd just got triggered, you know who I’m talking about.

    • @congobongoproductions5476
      @congobongoproductions5476 5 лет назад +10

      Like it isn't recognizable...

    • @coyote311
      @coyote311 4 года назад +17

      Fighting Ness is the one time where I condone child abuse!

    • @Tom-jw7ii
      @Tom-jw7ii 4 года назад +12

      lol remember when sdi existed

    • @lordlouie3550
      @lordlouie3550 4 года назад +2

      You people are bein babies... either that or Ridley (Whom I main) is really good at countering Ness... I’ll choose the former.

    • @nzbg1132
      @nzbg1132 4 года назад

      or scorpion from mortal kombat 9

  • @notsuchabadguy
    @notsuchabadguy 7 лет назад +71

    Fantastic video, as per usual. I've never been a huge SF guys, but your analysis makes me appreciate it more and more every time. As for projectile characters -- Samus in SSB4. I feel like her projectile game in Melee was greatly underemphasised, and that it really started coming together in 4 (even if she IS kind of a shitty character).

    • @kazumi_ssbm1968
      @kazumi_ssbm1968 7 лет назад +33

      not to be that guy, but samus' projectiles are waaaaayyyyy waaayy more powerful in melee. Not only do her super missiles kill, but with use of missile canceling she can fire twice as many at her opponent.

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад +6

      Yeah, this was strongly focused on SF, but I'll be mixing it up a lot in the coming videos.

    • @Femil90
      @Femil90 7 лет назад +6

      smash and melee are not fighting games tbqh

    • @Cunt143
      @Cunt143 7 лет назад +37

      toromoreno Soup isn't a type of food tbh

    • @Femil90
      @Femil90 7 лет назад +4

      correct ReviewRapeUSA

  • @grutsthefoodman3645
    @grutsthefoodman3645 Год назад

    5 years later and this video is still good

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 2 года назад +2

    My favorite projectile character is probably venom in xrd or nu 13 in most games she shows up in. Venom has the most interesting case of setup and manipulation of his projectiles I've ever seen, allowing a complex mix of aggression and zoning while nu completely shifts how your average character is since she is a zoner that actually combos and mixes from Fullscreen, but still has reasons to advance occasionally

  • @IchigoVizardful
    @IchigoVizardful 7 лет назад +6

    One of your best and the most thought-provoking video ever.
    Been waiting for your next video over a month ago but it was worth it 👊😉.
    Keep up the good work man and you deserved more subs IMO.

    • @CoreAGaming
      @CoreAGaming  7 лет назад

      Thanks for waiting, I know they take awhile.

  • @joecoolmccall
    @joecoolmccall 7 лет назад +3

    O, favorite fireball? Remy's EX from 3rd Strike.
    Close second is Reptiles slow moving fireball in MK 2

  • @maverick4900
    @maverick4900 3 года назад

    I really love how you do your research

  • @Jon-Mark_W
    @Jon-Mark_W 7 лет назад

    Good explanations, and I always love Strange Sunset. That's one of my favorite Musical pieces on a game!

  • @MrSonicDoctor
    @MrSonicDoctor 7 лет назад +19

    Best projectile character? Morrigan hands down. Just soul fist, soul fist, soul fist and soul fist.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад

      Not in her debut though.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 7 лет назад

      I still don't understand why Morrigan does decent damage on block with that.

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад

      Maybe it was an oversight that would have been fixed if Capcom kept up with the updates and patches. Stuck now.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 7 лет назад

      Toomnyusernae
      If memory serves, there's a rebalanced version of USF4 you can play on PC (probably only with other people using the mod, I imagine) so maybe there's hope we can get something like that for UMvC3?

    • @Toomnyusernae
      @Toomnyusernae 7 лет назад

      Sometimes those little quirks are better left in than get changed. I doubt Capcom and Marvel would churn out an update for the game. It's crazy enough that they've decided to do a re-release on PS4. Hopefully they'll allow for MvC2 and that Marvel Origins to return to the Psn.

  • @azza5332
    @azza5332 4 года назад

    Bulleta (B.B.Hood) has always been my favourite projectile character, and favourite Darkstalkers character.

  • @AC-xi4yn
    @AC-xi4yn 5 лет назад

    Loved the subtle editing in 2:53

  • @GatsuRage
    @GatsuRage 7 лет назад +6

    2:49 lol and he hit her!

  • @boredlazymax
    @boredlazymax Год назад +3

    Meanwhile in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike:
    **parry the projectile**

  • @christophercollins3632
    @christophercollins3632 7 лет назад

    What I like about you my friend, is that you manage to be hilarious, and demure at the same time. The various inserted animations I have very much enjoyed. An unexpected pleasure to be entertained so thoroughly with information and humor. I finally understood what the thumbnail to this video was representing after completing it. I must say, well done, well done. HDKN = SPAM by the way the last time I touched a joystick to a fighting game was back when streetfighter with Blanca was in the arcade. I just find this whole evolution of competitive fighting game play to be fascinating enough to want to try and understand it. This channel of yours has been a boon.

  • @Kreiser_VII
    @Kreiser_VII 9 месяцев назад

    I learnt to love fireballs with Cloud's Blade Beam in Smash Ultimate. Mixing up the shot between ground, midair, retreat, rush in, after engaging, it's the best to use them to create a tell for the opponent.

  • @malikcrim13
    @malikcrim13 7 лет назад +7

    Deathstroke for Injustice
    Ryu for SF

  • @janderson9413
    @janderson9413 2 года назад +3

    If your opponent is spamming a move, you're spamming a mistake.

  • @Mickspad
    @Mickspad 5 лет назад

    My favorite projectile character is Vatista from BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, I know she was in UNIB, but she was a charge character in that, in BBTag she's a motion character, I love how cute she is and how damaging her projectiles are

  • @robertgonzales7716
    @robertgonzales7716 4 года назад

    King from the AOF and KOF series. Has the option of a double fireball, plenty of anti air to punish jumps, and has an attack for almost every range.

  • @coolguynotfoolguy8759
    @coolguynotfoolguy8759 4 года назад +3

    4:30 but what if someone says that avoiding doing what someone said is a strength of Diago's?

  • @lucafeghali5635
    @lucafeghali5635 7 лет назад +47

    my favourite projectile character is Samus from melee

    • @cillee997
      @cillee997 7 лет назад +13

      Luca Feghali falco laser

    • @aufishsd1445
      @aufishsd1445 5 лет назад

      Megaman. Smash 4. I've argued this before. Melee is the worst smash game.

    • @marcjehle2480
      @marcjehle2480 5 лет назад

      Samus from n64 smash

    • @SunBlade4302
      @SunBlade4302 5 лет назад +7

      @@aufishsd1445 sure, if you are bad

    • @aufishsd1445
      @aufishsd1445 5 лет назад

      Xx_GrannyDicker69_xX you are bad if you play fox fox fox. Melee? More like: Super Smash Fox Fox Version.

  • @DXGraveman
    @DXGraveman 6 лет назад

    Guiles sonic booms are just too cool and is like his main move in sf5 it’s just so iconic

  • @Gamersls
    @Gamersls 6 лет назад

    Your videos are so cool and informing and funny , keep up the good work . 💓

  • @CureCryptic
    @CureCryptic 3 года назад +4

    Can't believe a fucking Family Guy clip taught me about spacing

    • @idk72.
      @idk72. 3 года назад

      A clip about a kick mid boxing match taught me about frame data, and it was from this same channel