@@Channel9001 Digest??? Pretty sure it's safer for these materials to pass through your digestive system intact rather than let whatever they're made of pass into your bloodstream.
@@XX-ep5xt I'm tempted to install it. I do own the game so legally I can play it on emulator, but I watched some people casually play melee and even that looks way out of my league.
“Anyone who’s refrained from eating a slice of pizza-“ Look, man, I can believe a lot of things, but the idea that someone didn’t eat a slice of pizza doesn’t make any sense.
In fact, if you look really closely, the footage seems to have been reversed, because he couldn't find any footage of someone actually not eating pizza.
Not eating a single slice of pizza is easier than eating a single slice of pizza. If I say no to pizza it'll be a little mentally taxing but I'll get through it. If I eat one slice then I'm a pie deep in the corner crying.
its called "not everyone likes pizza" bruh. i know its hard to believe, but the dinosaurs in the jurassic park movies weren't real man. its just something you gotta accept at some point
Reminds me of former chess vice world champion karjakin when asked what's the best feeling in chess says to frustrate the opponent and win a losing game. He's nicknamed the minister of defense....
I use a similar tactic as justin in alot of games wether it be Street Fighter, Duel Monsters or even Xenoverse 2. Ive driven players crazy and win as Cell JR. Because well.. Its a cell Jr & because ill constantly punish rushing with his combo attacks & ki blast spam to bug my oppoent into rushing me.
@@grumpyguy112 That's why I mained Mewtwo for a couple years way back in the day. People were still making fun of games and the people who played them instead of enjoying them, but somehow Melee got popular at school. I was hot garbage, but just using 'bottom-tier trash' pissed people off enough to make them screw up.
Whoa, really? I guess it's easy to get tripped up by how a word is SAID when a pun is from how it's SPELLED. Oh, English and your silent word-ending Es…
Perfect time for people to gitgud at fighting games. Most bad players say "I have a life" or "I don't have all day to practice". Now they have that 30mins a day to practice.
basically: -thinking fast is faster and takes less effort, but isn't as smart -thinking slow is slower and takes more effort, but lets you think out plays -sugar
Yeah. I will tell you the following statement as additional and not as rebuttal. By which this method is a fancy way of stating the common knowledge that, in general, better decisions are made based on how long you give it thought. In the optimal reality, system 1&2 ought to work in harmony and in balance. Be that as it may, in actuality, the systems are applied relative to the situation at hand
@@NihongoWakannai your phone can handle tasks, in a minute, early computers would take hours to perform. In no way is the slower performance more accurate or superior. It's merely slower and incapable of processing at a faster rate. Some ppl have this silly notion that playing slower games is better by virtue of having more time to think. They think fighting games should be slower based on that faulty reasoning. Thinking faster is not lesser in any sense unless you produce bad results. The idea that slow allows for superior thought, in a fighting game, is nonsense. It's just a candy-coated way of explaining why some people can process at a higher rate and some people can't. Lesser players perform better when things are less competitive and challenging. Lol it isn't rocket science. This is just a narrative that makes slower ppl feel better about their limitations. 🤷♂️
7:38 this to me, is what leads to those moments of "why didn't I just do that?" When watching replays of past matches, it's important to recognize these moments to be prepared for similar events
It's amazing how many of these players have cases of people attacking them just for winning, daigo got punched, Justin got tased, and I'm sure that there's more people out there with that kind of story
As a cognitive scientist, it makes me really happy to see such a great explanation of System 1/2 and Flow. While Thinking: Fast and Slow is kind of out of date in a lot of places, its influence on cognitive psychology is massive and the theories in it are clearly applicable to contexts like this. You explained the theories super well. Better than some of my classes, even. Keep it up!
information and current beliefs in psychology has an increasingly diminishing half-life, so a book released in 2011 still being relevant can only speak to it's brilliance.
@@sillywet4785 For sure, and Kahneman and Tversky are legends for good reason. A lot of the content calls back to their experiments from the 70s though, so it's not all quite so modern.
Anyone who wants to explore the concept in this video further, watch Karate Kid. People remember, more than anything, the training regimens Miyagi used to teach Daniel, and how the monotonous chores magically trained Daniel in martial arts, but the takeaway people need to remember is that Miyagi was teaching Daniel to use brain-dead karate techniques. This is because Miyagi wished to train Daniel in a matter of weeks, to effectively combat blackbelts, ruthlessly trained warriors. The fighting game equivalent would be teaching Daniel to use sweep-kick Hydouken, blocking high and blocking low, and using Shoryuken when an opponent jumps. The crane-kick can be thought of as the one special complex move Daniel learned by happenstance.
It comes back to an earlier video about practicing by focusing what tools you learn as well, by focusing your options down, you more easily make them reflexive and SysOne decisions, allowing you to move on later without wearing yourself out with too much all at once
@@suezuccati304 Pretty much. There's a reason why sets are rarely 1 game. It gives both sides time to get used to the other player and counter their strategy.
@@GlowingOrangeOoze Oh my god yes. I don't even get mad at the opponent (If it works, it works. I won't judge.), I just get mad at myself for not knowing how to stop the seemingly basic shit they're throwing out lmfao. Obviously with time these kinds of situations become second nature to beat, but it definitely makes me hesitant to try new fighting games because I'm going to get destroyed by seemingly simple shit for a little while and just make myself mad.
this knowledge applies really well to rhythm games, you need to stay in system 1, or else you overthink things and ruin a good play, but at the same time if you're not thinking about things, you could miss inputs
What you said about noticing the obvious made me remember when kjh, a melee player, said during one of the summits that he had spent an awful long time playing melee without realizing there was a second character on the screen
I remember Daigo said to drink 2 cups of black coffee before practicing and i can't lie it helped tremendously. Also make sure you are well-fed and well rested before playing it makes a monumental difference
"its not a hard question" me sitting here for 10 min trying to find out why:uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh edit:i got it it just took me longer than i would like to admit
Took me a while but I get it. If the ball costs ten cents and the bat costs a dollar. Then that makes the bat only cost 90 cents more. You'll need to rework the figures so you get a proper 1 dollar difference. 5 cents vs 1dollar and 5 cents makes for a difference of 1 dollar.
Bat is $1.05 because it costs 1 dollar more than the ball. Since the result is $1.10, Ball is 5 cents + bat is 1 dollar 5 cents = $1.10. The key words are ''more than'' here. I think I also saw a question in the past but it was worded differently.
Love this. It makes me think about things like how our brains change over time, i.e; I was better at Super Mario Bros 1 when I was 10 than I am now but would wreck my former self in most fighters, or how I taught myself to play bass guitar without an amp (so I wouldn't bother anyone) and had to painfully unlearn my improper habit of playing too hard and wearing myself out. We can all be John Wick, but for most of us only a few minutes a day.
I believe that was the reasoning stated in the anime. There was also a reason why he sits like he does in the anime which also had something to do with his brain or some shit.
10:57 Funnily enough, people suffering from clinical depression actually came up with a term to describe this in the context of their lives, where mental energy is in abnormally short supply It's called Spoons, and consists of counting your mental stamina up into several spoons, each task costing varying amounts-when you're out, you're out and not getting up until you've had serious R&R. Obviously healthier people have tons of spoons by this lens, to the point where imo, we never notice until we're almost dry.
Just an FYI, spoon theory was developed by someone with an autoimmune disease and not depression. It also is recognized as gaining ground out of the chronic fatigue/pain community. As someone with a mood disorder and a chronic pain disorder I can tell you that the challenges faced by mental disabilities and physical disabilities are different and shouldn’t be conflated.
Yo, you are a God in the FGC, I can't thank you enough for actually taking the time to do deep analysis of fighting games as a whole. Been watching since video one and somehow you keep me glued to your videos each time you drop one. Keep up the good work!!!
I find the choice of the music in your videos excellent. Also, as an aspiring game designer I take a lot of notes, the educational value is tremendous. Looking forward to your upcoming content as always.
4:47 "hola super nintendo chalmers". Ya me acordé por qué amo tanto este canal. Well, being serious, I really love every video that you upload, your effort in editing, themes, examples, everything. They are really inmersive, and really makes me to be a good player and also my friends, just for enjoying fighthing games as a professionals, with that skill level. It's just amazing, Gerald.
7:19 Oh my god I am so sick of this video. As someone who studies psychology this video comes up every time the topic of attention does. I mean it makes an excellent point but holy shit I feel like I’ve seen this video more than the sun in summer. At least Core-A gave it a new perspective on it.
They showed us this video in driving school before I got my license. I immediately raised my hand and asked about the gorilla. The instructor asked who told me about it and didn't believe me when I said no one, and that I had just noticed it.
For those of you wondering what ocv means, it stands for one character victory. Kof is a 3 character team game. It's like the original blue print for capcom's vs games in terms of the basic structure.
When a video on fighting games starts referencing literally Nobel Prize winning research to make a good point, you know you’ve found an awesome channel. I’m so impressed by the style, effort, and time put i to this work. You’ve got a sub for life!
As a note: Daniel Kahneman's S1 and S2 theory has been overcome by the latest researches. We can at most categorise decisions in Type1 and 2. In truth there's a continuum though. Like shades of grey. Good content!
This one is my favourite YT channel of all time. Regardless of the topic. I love how I can find interesting ideas, articles or topic even outside of fighting game related stuff while the main topic is still fighting game related. Sharing your sources is such an easy thing to do and still so rare on other channels. I usually read/watch at least 3-4 of them after every video. I cannot express how much I appreciate your effort to produce quality content for us, viewers. Please, never stop it.
You nailed it when you said "thinking". We think until we don't have to, then we are efficient. Even though an observer might "think" - "that move was fast" or "that move was slow", the performer's mind is in another realm - the realm of "no thought"........the realm of "not fast/not slow".
"Does that mean getting good is the key to happiness" you know I know you said let's not get carried away but it makes sense. I only ever feel depressed irl if I'm being really complacent/lazy, I guess I'm not using system 2 outside of video games
It is! We need to do things we find meaningful to maintain our sense of self worth. Of course you have to figure out what you find meaningful and there's also finer points like limiting high stress activities, but the main thing is to find activities you care about and git gud! Disclaimer: it's much harder than it sounds (but still doable)
@@nahometesfay1112 If that's how you see it. Being good is a side effect of being active in an activity, the desire to get good is ambiguous and can lead to suffering.
Yes absolutely getting good is the key to happiness. You can see it everywhere, not just in gaming but in literally any activity. No one is more stressed out frustrated and miserable than people struggling with tasks.
That’s why I love fighting games. Changing your tempo can make a character feel brand new. Sometimes I like to play fast paced and try and scare people by putting pressure on them and other times I love to play slower and try to be more reaction and read based. You can even combine the two by assigning them different parts like system 1 for advantage and system 2 for neutral or disadvantage.
Yeah I didn't not finish the phrase. I usually eat my bread with some sort of fruit spread. I guess if it's like pasta I'll eat bread and butter though
Yes. This entire video is a ripoff of Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking, fast and slow" which helps you determine the best times to apply system 1 or system 2 in your every day life
9:24 So I was at Level Up Expo (2020) and this basically summarizes my experience. My opponent was playing defensive, I got frustrated and wasnt thinking of ways to get around it and even though I was sure I was better, I lost the set anyways. Since then I've been trying to fix my frustration while dealing with defensive players, but I'm telling you, it's hard. I know that if I get mad I'll lose, but I dont want to wait 30 seconds just to hit my opponent either. The only way I can describe that feeling is like fighting not only your opponent but yourself as well. To anyone who wants to do anything competitively, I can only tell you to be patient. In the long run patience is going to win you a lot more games and I wish I had understood that sooner.
The bat and ball question is actually brilliant. I've been obsessed to the reasoning behing the correct answer until I've found a clear and concise explanation.
Fantastic analysis. This open and honest look at the balance between mind games and physical skill required to maintain in a competitive setting is so relatable. Too often is player skill boiled down to go-to meta combos and tactics, but the mental fortitude and calmness required to win a tournament is a real thing.
@@herpderp8267 Mayweather is the best defensive fighter of all time. He fights unorthodox and he's a counter puncher. All he has to do is pivot and use a shoulder role to evade anything. It helps being super fast also.
XDie StayFly Yup! Not the biggest boxing fan out there, but from what I hear Mayweather tends to win by scoring more points from the judges because his shots are cleaner and his opponent would likely miss more punches It’s “smart” and his record reflects it, but obviously if you’re an casual fan looking for aggresion you’d be very turned off.
I love the feeling when you are in the zone and you playing a video game one of the best feelings in the world. I guess you can say I'm feeling The Flow. Justin was right The best offense is a good defense. 👍
There is some discussion about the ego depletion effect and how it all works. The ego depletion effect, if it exists, can be countered by believing that the effect will not take place. So no need to go drink lemonade, just believe you will not be depleted and you are good.
I mean, improving at fighting games has definitely helped my depression a ton, and seemed to fix my inferiority complex, so hey if that helps that last question at all.
Same here fam, it's helped a ton with depression, even if I'm getting my ass beat. I think my score in sfv is like 6 wins 52 losses, but I still come back for more, because regardless if I win, improving feels good af XD
Fighting games help me through quarantine. Can't see my friends so we train to become better with our mains and keep fighting online. Wish you all happiness and health.
The ball and Bat issue was confusing me, I had to look down in the comments. And the answer is a schemantic issue. I read the sentence and misheard. I always thought it said "1 Dollar more" Rather than "1 Dollar more *than* ". System 32 failed me.
@@RetroPillowcase if the bat costs 1 dollar more than the ball, and the ball costs 5 cents, then the bat would cost 1.05 dollars. 5 cents plus 1.05 dollars equals 1.10 dollars. Get it?
@@RetroPillowcase He meant he read it as "$1 more on top of the ball", not as "$1 more THAN the ball". An equivalent blunder would be reading it as "$1, more than the ball" as if you assume the question writer forgot a comma.
@@yoyoguy1st I think another problem is that many assume that zeroes that aren't in between any non-zeroes, AKA "non-significant digits", really don't matter and are hence illegal to manipulate. They think "Zeroes are just placeholders, so why should they ever be necessary to manipulate?".
trying to digest this... system 1 = reaction, flowchart & quick mechanics (low brain drain) system 2 = in-game adaptation, player/match-up based game plan (high brain drain) ??? wonder how much more of the system 2 stuff pros manage to convert into system 1 :thinking: (besides attack inputs of course)
imagine if your game sense is so sick that you can't get cheesed and it's easy to cheese your opponent. or if your adaptation is so good that it clicks super fast naturally. oh man what if EVERYTHING gets converted to system 1 and you can just flow and destroy while playing super hype. wait that's mang0 isn't it
@@gunkman_man I think it would be like taking a hit of crack, or for bipolar people, entering hypomania. I know that Mahvel and Skullgirls pros can belt out their ultra combos like it's nothing throughout a tournament, and on my really good days, I've been able to put a lot more things into system 1 than normal, including tight fastfalls and bait decisions.
mostly the stuff very new players take for granted having to learn day one. To reiterate LordKnight's old SRK article 'Look at the Screen', *screen awareness* is something players don't integrate until after awhile. Otherwise they are consciously paying too much attention at that information and taking it in context. Along with mental reminders to themselves how to execute towards the win condition. One thing that is a high intensity System 2 activity that top players save their energy for is increased anticipation. In Tekken gameplay its been called 'compact' play, where not only do you have to play your opponent at a dangerously closer range. So attention to movement becomes more important but also trying to anticipate more moves to try block, actively punish or even catch a low parry. Because their opponent may not give enough mistakes to try punish and get ahead of the life lead. Players cannot keep playing at this intensity for long and it may drain them too hard for when they need to do this again very soon.
3 years later I'm checking your videos out to study for my psychology exam, the things you talk about are also talked about in first years of several psychology uni majors.
That Baseball question got me, I rarely use system 2. So a question like that doesn’t come quickly. This explains why I even though I try my best to improve I lose to basic hadoken spam strategies. Damn this video opened my eyes.
"We tend to like people that put in effort" literally our feelings towards this channel.
Fax
Facts xD
I don't even like fighting games but you can bet your ass I'm subbed to this channel.
@@ShadteR no printer
Yep
6:03 My brain said "1 dollar 10 cents"
*system 3 activated*
Ultra Instinct achieved
My brain just refused to calculate.
Total system shutdown.
@@DoihaDX what???
Same. "He just said they cost 1.10$, so how could there be a price difference?" Brain shutdown XD
Me: programmer and good at various fields of mathematics
Core-A: asks that one question
Me: *slow 1990 internet noises
*massive ego obliterated
Bread and...
Me: uh...
Gerald: butter
Me: oh...
My first thought was cheese. What’s wrong with me?
My first thought was wine but I've never drank
I was going to say bread and circuses
My first thought was cheese
I thought jam.
After much deliberation, I have come to a conclusion: I'd rather eat the SNES.
I used system 2 to pick clock. Less heavy metals...tbh my gut reaction was NES cause it looks kinda like a cake
@@nahometesfay1112 The SNES is mostly plastic, while the clock seems to have metal body. so I figured the plastic would be easier to digest.
@@Channel9001 Digest??? Pretty sure it's safer for these materials to pass through your digestive system intact rather than let whatever they're made of pass into your bloodstream.
@@internationallizard8870 That's too good to be buried in a thread. How often does the opportunity arise to make that pun in the wild?
@@internationallizard8870 god fukcing damn it
“Good netcode” -smash ultimate has left the building
Melee has entered the chat.
@@XX-ep5xt I'm tempted to install it. I do own the game so legally I can play it on emulator, but I watched some people casually play melee and even that looks way out of my league.
@@jeanschyso it's so much fun you should give it a shot
*every japanese FG has left*
"good tutorial" - tekken has left the room
“Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.” Sun Tzu played lame way before this Justin Wong scrub
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@@Benloadeon Excellent!
Huzzah! A man of culture!
Nada disso amigo
@@zerohunter4466 AtpCarl
video: "bread and..."
Me: "..Jelly."
video: "butter"
Me: "yeah that one."
I thought bread and cheese for some reason lol
Circus
I said toast brb kms
Bread and WINE!!!
I said crumbs...
“Anyone who’s refrained from eating a slice of pizza-“
Look, man, I can believe a lot of things, but the idea that someone didn’t eat a slice of pizza doesn’t make any sense.
In fact, if you look really closely, the footage seems to have been reversed, because he couldn't find any footage of someone actually not eating pizza.
If I'm splitting a pizza with a mate who eats slower than me, I need that System 2 to make sure I don't take any of their's. Pizza theft is evil.
Not eating a single slice of pizza is easier than eating a single slice of pizza. If I say no to pizza it'll be a little mentally taxing but I'll get through it.
If I eat one slice then I'm a pie deep in the corner crying.
its called "not everyone likes pizza" bruh. i know its hard to believe, but the dinosaurs in the jurassic park movies weren't real man. its just something you gotta accept at some point
*weeps in having to often refuse invites to a slice of pizza a homie bought due to food allergies*
Justin Wong: "I like seeing the world burn."
Reminds me of former chess vice world champion karjakin when asked what's the best feeling in chess says to frustrate the opponent and win a losing game. He's nicknamed the minister of defense....
I use a similar tactic as justin in alot of games wether it be Street Fighter, Duel Monsters or even Xenoverse 2.
Ive driven players crazy and win as Cell JR. Because well.. Its a cell Jr & because ill constantly punish rushing with his combo attacks & ki blast spam to bug my oppoent into rushing me.
In Smash bros we call this "elite smash"
@@Isaiah_McIntosh 00
@@grumpyguy112 That's why I mained Mewtwo for a couple years way back in the day. People were still making fun of games and the people who played them instead of enjoying them, but somehow Melee got popular at school. I was hot garbage, but just using 'bottom-tier trash' pissed people off enough to make them screw up.
It took me this long to realize that Core-A is a pun of Korea.
Whoa, really? I guess it's easy to get tripped up by how a word is SAID when a pun is from how it's SPELLED. Oh, English and your silent word-ending Es…
korea was orignally spelled as corea by english speaking countries a long time ago. so its a pun with some history, which is awesome.
@@CarbonRollerCaco lol. English barely has any silent letters.
@@jokx4409 E is the most commonly-us[e]d letter in English, thou[gh].
@@CarbonRollerCaco and?
Perfect for our time stuck inside, thanks for the upload!
And thank you for the podcast that gave me a heads up that this was coming out.
You gonna break this down Sajam? Please
yeah but how does this relate to rollback?
@@dafasdasf 13:11 right here
@@Raidanzoup Me too!
after his podcast, i was checking Core a Gaming if the new content is up EVERYDAY!
Just when Quarantine was getting boring, Core-A comes in with the clutch vid
it has been boring for 3 weeks now
@@niqo_tv animal crossung though..
@@Bnnanna and DOOM
Perfect time for people to gitgud at fighting games. Most bad players say "I have a life" or "I don't have all day to practice". Now they have that 30mins a day to practice.
@@shadovvwolfie790 Yeah man you're right but... Animal Crossing man... and DOOM man...
basically:
-thinking fast is faster and takes less effort, but isn't as smart
-thinking slow is slower and takes more effort, but lets you think out plays
-sugar
is sweet
Yeah. I will tell you the following statement as additional and not as rebuttal. By which this method is a fancy way of stating the common knowledge that, in general, better decisions are made based on how long you give it thought. In the optimal reality, system 1&2 ought to work in harmony and in balance. Be that as it may, in actuality, the systems are applied relative to the situation at hand
Computers expose this to be a total lie. LOL
@@OGSF_Apoc how? Computers take longer to compute harder tasks too
@@NihongoWakannai your phone can handle tasks, in a minute, early computers would take hours to perform. In no way is the slower performance more accurate or superior. It's merely slower and incapable of processing at a faster rate.
Some ppl have this silly notion that playing slower games is better by virtue of having more time to think.
They think fighting games should be slower based on that faulty reasoning.
Thinking faster is not lesser in any sense unless you produce bad results. The idea that slow allows for superior thought, in a fighting game, is nonsense. It's just a candy-coated way of explaining why some people can process at a higher rate and some people can't.
Lesser players perform better when things are less competitive and challenging. Lol it isn't rocket science.
This is just a narrative that makes slower ppl feel better about their limitations. 🤷♂️
7:38 this to me, is what leads to those moments of "why didn't I just do that?" When watching replays of past matches, it's important to recognize these moments to be prepared for similar events
It's amazing how many of these players have cases of people attacking them just for winning, daigo got punched, Justin got tased, and I'm sure that there's more people out there with that kind of story
Imagine getting tased for beating someone at a game though lmao. Talk about overkill
Hungrybox got crabbed
A Chinese KOF 97 player got stabbed
@@edgely Justin Wong was playing really defensively, so his opponent used an unblockable, seems like common sense to me!
"Im doing 2000 operations in my brain at same time"
And all of them are wrong
As a cognitive scientist, it makes me really happy to see such a great explanation of System 1/2 and Flow. While Thinking: Fast and Slow is kind of out of date in a lot of places, its influence on cognitive psychology is massive and the theories in it are clearly applicable to contexts like this. You explained the theories super well. Better than some of my classes, even. Keep it up!
You're a cognitive scientist! How long have you been in a cognitive scientist
Ah, man. That was next on my reading list too
information and current beliefs in psychology has an increasingly diminishing half-life, so a book released in 2011 still being relevant can only speak to it's brilliance.
@@dragonfang7833 I just graduated this year, but if we count my schooling, six (very long) years :P
@@sillywet4785 For sure, and Kahneman and Tversky are legends for good reason. A lot of the content calls back to their experiments from the 70s though, so it's not all quite so modern.
Anyone who wants to explore the concept in this video further, watch Karate Kid.
People remember, more than anything, the training regimens Miyagi used to teach Daniel, and how the monotonous chores magically trained Daniel in martial arts, but the takeaway people need to remember is that Miyagi was teaching Daniel to use brain-dead karate techniques.
This is because Miyagi wished to train Daniel in a matter of weeks, to effectively combat blackbelts, ruthlessly trained warriors.
The fighting game equivalent would be teaching Daniel to use sweep-kick Hydouken, blocking high and blocking low, and using Shoryuken when an opponent jumps.
The crane-kick can be thought of as the one special complex move Daniel learned by happenstance.
Or just read "Thinking, fast and slow" by Kahneman.
It comes back to an earlier video about practicing by focusing what tools you learn as well, by focusing your options down, you more easily make them reflexive and SysOne decisions, allowing you to move on later without wearing yourself out with too much all at once
Him pronouncing that psychologist's name was the most hype part of the video I swear
Justin wong : i love make people losing control
Daigo umehara : hold my perfect parry
Well, not to take out Daigo's legendary merit of this moment, but didn't he end up losing the full match?
Victor Hugo Costa
I don’t think so, I think he ended up not getting first at the tournament. But I’m not sure.
@@victorhugocosta1127 he won that match. But he lost in grand final againts someone else so he didnt win the tournament.
@@invertbrid So Wong basically assisted.
That's adrenaline for you.
i went to a catholic high school so when he said: "Bread and..." i immediately thought of wine
*angelic choir intensifies*
If you think about it you still used your system 1 lol
I thought "loaf" because of the video
I am retarded
@@djvezeta8553 yeah exactly 😂
My brain completed with "meat", because I thought of making a sandwich.
Came to learn about fast and slow in fighting games, I left with a lesson in psychology....I love this channel!!
If someone can successfully bait you into falling for their constantly recycled moves all they've done is successfully condition you lol
if you know what your opponent is going to do and you dont counter it, its entirely your fault, lol
@@suezuccati304 Pretty much. There's a reason why sets are rarely 1 game. It gives both sides time to get used to the other player and counter their strategy.
What about a TaZeR?
Knowing that only makes it more frustrating when you don't know what to do.
@@GlowingOrangeOoze Oh my god yes. I don't even get mad at the opponent (If it works, it works. I won't judge.), I just get mad at myself for not knowing how to stop the seemingly basic shit they're throwing out lmfao. Obviously with time these kinds of situations become second nature to beat, but it definitely makes me hesitant to try new fighting games because I'm going to get destroyed by seemingly simple shit for a little while and just make myself mad.
this knowledge applies really well to rhythm games, you need to stay in system 1, or else you overthink things and ruin a good play, but at the same time if you're not thinking about things, you could miss inputs
i used to say that shit about skating and playing rocket league
i need to "unconcentrate" because wtf am i doing when im thinking lmao
The fact that I finished "Bread and..." with "cheese" probably says a lot about me as a player.
I too suffered from the same thought folly 😂.
I went with "Bread and water"
I went with "lettuce"
@@bEnderOfWorlds Ryu player spotted
SAME LOL
"Bread and..."
"..."
"Knuckles?"
Underrated joke is underrated.
"Chill out, have a snicker" makes so much more sense now xd
What you said about noticing the obvious made me remember when kjh, a melee player, said during one of the summits that he had spent an awful long time playing melee without realizing there was a second character on the screen
I remember Daigo said to drink 2 cups of black coffee before practicing and i can't lie it helped tremendously. Also make sure you are well-fed and well rested before playing it makes a monumental difference
Coffee helps but don’t overdo
It on the caffeine
"Blocking frustrates the opponent on the offense, because they dont get to do what they want to do."
Hyde mains: "yes, but actually no."
Lmao, some guy gets to say “I tazed Justin Wong for playing lame” lmao
Koricthegreat washed up fighter Playing lame confirmed to be bad for one’s health XD
I've watched this video three times before, but up until now I let it go all the way to the end and I just found out about this.
A good story
You get what you fucking deserve
@@bobjohnson5557 How about another set, Wong?
"its not a hard question"
me sitting here for 10 min trying to find out why:uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
edit:i got it it just took me longer than i would like to admit
Same
Took me a while but I get it.
If the ball costs ten cents and the bat costs a dollar. Then that makes the bat only cost 90 cents more.
You'll need to rework the figures so you get a proper 1 dollar difference.
5 cents vs 1dollar and 5 cents makes for a difference of 1 dollar.
Bat is $1.05 because it costs 1 dollar more than the ball. Since the result is $1.10,
Ball is 5 cents + bat is 1 dollar 5 cents = $1.10.
The key words are ''more than'' here. I think I also saw a question in the past but it was worded differently.
Just remove the dollar from the original number and cut the 10 cents in half.
It's pretty simple. You gotta do a happybirthday TOD on both and then drop the combo at the end resulting in only 5 cents remaining
4:48 latinoamerican Ralph Wiggun dub reference
Man, I'm in lesbians with you
I was so confused.. why didn't he use the english version?
O la versión en español osssstiaaa🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸💪💪💪 jaja es broma es broma
@@hayk3000 creo que es porque en latino dice "super nintendo chalmers" ( no se si en españa ralph dira lo mismo)
@@socramrp4497
¿Gimnasio? ¿Qué es un gimnasio? Oh ... Jaja ... ¡Un gimnasio!
I love the scott pilgrim movie. Sick reference bro
fafafagat lmao i love how the protagonist in that movie is just a negging gaslighter who dates a highschooler and a manic pixie LITERAL dream girl
Love this. It makes me think about things like how our brains change over time, i.e; I was better at Super Mario Bros 1 when I was 10 than I am now but would wreck my former self in most fighters, or how I taught myself to play bass guitar without an amp (so I wouldn't bother anyone) and had to painfully unlearn my improper habit of playing too hard and wearing myself out. We can all be John Wick, but for most of us only a few minutes a day.
5:50
That music transition was so smooth.
So smooth i didnt even realize it was 2 different tracks at first
"People are better at doing mental tasks after they eat sugar".
IS THAT WHY L FROM DEATH NOTE ALWAYS EATS SUGARY FOODS???!
He's optimizing
@Kwanele urubos the game is life
I believe that was the reasoning stated in the anime. There was also a reason why he sits like he does in the anime which also had something to do with his brain or some shit.
i see.. Because Kira is playing a super lame defensive game
and he doesn't have a Taser. lol
Actually yes, and he also sits that way because of that.
Oh thank god, I just keep cycling through Core-A's old stuff and was starting to go stir crazy.
@TheNinthGamer fighting games are fighting games brother
SAME
Only good thing about this whole pandemic is bringing people together via the internet
hype mockrock your my favorite.
@TheNinthGamer Core-A Gaming is one of my all-time favourite channels on RUclips and has had a huge influence over the direction of my content!
Holy smokes. Justin Wong is the Floyd Mayweather of fighting games.
My main said i will annoy you to death.
@@lmao2302 Literally.
The weird difference is... Justin Wong knock peoples out. K.O
@@theblackswordsman1779 Out of?
@@theblackswordsman1779 are his girlfriend's counted among those?
why did I immediately decide I wanted to eat the SNES mini before I even realized both items were inedible
_Feel the beat, feel the flow_
_Feel the game, feel your soul_
10:57
Funnily enough, people suffering from clinical depression actually came up with a term to describe this in the context of their lives, where mental energy is in abnormally short supply
It's called Spoons, and consists of counting your mental stamina up into several spoons, each task costing varying amounts-when you're out, you're out and not getting up until you've had serious R&R.
Obviously healthier people have tons of spoons by this lens, to the point where imo, we never notice until we're almost dry.
thus, i guess then comes the burnout
Interesting.
Just an FYI, spoon theory was developed by someone with an autoimmune disease and not depression. It also is recognized as gaining ground out of the chronic fatigue/pain community. As someone with a mood disorder and a chronic pain disorder I can tell you that the challenges faced by mental disabilities and physical disabilities are different and shouldn’t be conflated.
Moral of video:
Taze the lame out of em.
I don't understand that language sorry.
@@DreamWeave288 im sorry... My diction is here to stay, this notions dichotomy may also not be apparent.......
moral would be true if justin ever stopped playing lame Kappa
What doesn't kill you only makes you lamer
just turtle when ure leading, and dont even approach ppl who turtling with 5% hp left
From all the things I expected from this channel, I've never expected The Simpsons latin dub
Sep, ni siquiera se porque usaron ese clip en latino.
En qué minuto?
@@AlexCampuzano2001 4:47
Yo, you are a God in the FGC, I can't thank you enough for actually taking the time to do deep analysis of fighting games as a whole. Been watching since video one and somehow you keep me glued to your videos each time you drop one. Keep up the good work!!!
I find the choice of the music in your videos excellent. Also, as an aspiring game designer I take a lot of notes, the educational value is tremendous. Looking forward to your upcoming content as always.
Gerald said “We” and it took me forever to find the like button cause my eyes wouldn’t stop tearing up, Welcome back and hope all is well Man
4:47 "hola super nintendo chalmers". Ya me acordé por qué amo tanto este canal.
Well, being serious, I really love every video that you upload, your effort in editing, themes, examples, everything. They are really inmersive, and really makes me to be a good player and also my friends, just for enjoying fighthing games as a professionals, with that skill level. It's just amazing, Gerald.
Pequeña corrección bro, edición es "editing" en inglés, edition es como de "edición especial"
@@valencart ¡Gracias! Sí, tengo que mejorar mi inglés en varios aspectos. Ahora lo edito
@@maximofernandez4957 por nada, me alegro de que te tomaras la corrección de buena manera
@@valencart Sí, siempre. Nunca está de más aprender algo nuevo. Gracias de nuevo por la correción
É estranho e maneiro não falar espanhol e ainda assim entender o que vocês escreveram.
7:19 Oh my god I am so sick of this video. As someone who studies psychology this video comes up every time the topic of attention does. I mean it makes an excellent point but holy shit I feel like I’ve seen this video more than the sun in summer. At least Core-A gave it a new perspective on it.
I feel you, brother
They showed us this video in driving school before I got my license. I immediately raised my hand and asked about the gorilla. The instructor asked who told me about it and didn't believe me when I said no one, and that I had just noticed it.
i'm so sick and tired of the bear version
I think they did it on every other episode of Brain Games
I've seen that video at least 10 times in my life
For those of you wondering what ocv means, it stands for one character victory. Kof is a 3 character team game. It's like the original blue print for capcom's vs games in terms of the basic structure.
When a video on fighting games starts referencing literally Nobel Prize winning research to make a good point, you know you’ve found an awesome channel. I’m so impressed by the style, effort, and time put i to this work. You’ve got a sub for life!
I’VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FIR ANOTHER VIDEO THANK YOU SO MUCH JARED
Jared from Core-B Gaming?
Does this mean we're going to get free subway gift cards for watching the channel?
Gerald man, lol.
As a note: Daniel Kahneman's S1 and S2 theory has been overcome by the latest researches.
We can at most categorise decisions in Type1 and 2. In truth there's a continuum though. Like shades of grey.
Good content!
Players: "easy inputs never won tournaments"
Core A: "you'd like that wouldn't you"
This one is my favourite YT channel of all time. Regardless of the topic. I love how I can find interesting ideas, articles or topic even outside of fighting game related stuff while the main topic is still fighting game related. Sharing your sources is such an easy thing to do and still so rare on other channels. I usually read/watch at least 3-4 of them after every video. I cannot express how much I appreciate your effort to produce quality content for us, viewers. Please, never stop it.
You nailed it when you said "thinking". We think until we don't have to, then we are efficient. Even though an observer might "think" - "that move was fast" or "that move was slow", the performer's mind is in another realm - the realm of "no thought"........the realm of "not fast/not slow".
"Does that mean getting good is the key to happiness" you know I know you said let's not get carried away but it makes sense. I only ever feel depressed irl if I'm being really complacent/lazy, I guess I'm not using system 2 outside of video games
It is! We need to do things we find meaningful to maintain our sense of self worth. Of course you have to figure out what you find meaningful and there's also finer points like limiting high stress activities, but the main thing is to find activities you care about and git gud!
Disclaimer: it's much harder than it sounds (but still doable)
Less of getting good, more so becoming more skillful rather than being lethargic
@@MingusDynastyy that just sounds like git gud with more verbiage
@@nahometesfay1112 If that's how you see it. Being good is a side effect of being active in an activity, the desire to get good is ambiguous and can lead to suffering.
I dunno. Finding meaning and acquiring skill in an area aren't necessarily the same thing. Not really.
8:15 This is your brain on fighting games
Finally someone is giving credit to my solid Ken gameplan
Yes absolutely getting good is the key to happiness. You can see it everywhere, not just in gaming but in literally any activity. No one is more stressed out frustrated and miserable than people struggling with tasks.
That’s why I love fighting games. Changing your tempo can make a character feel brand new. Sometimes I like to play fast paced and try and scare people by putting pressure on them and other times I love to play slower and try to be more reaction and read based. You can even combine the two by assigning them different parts like system 1 for advantage and system 2 for neutral or disadvantage.
Still love how this channels makes sweet justice to the whole Street Fighter III games.
Also, what a sick Venue. All that grinding will f'in pay off!
Core-A Gaming: "The answer is 5 cents, if the answer 10 cents came across your mind..."
My mind: "Hola Super Nintendo Chambers!"
My mind exactly.
I love that you said Super Nintendo CHAMBERS and not Chalmers. It just makes it funnier in my mind. Haha!
@@handlessuck589 It's a corruption of Superintendent Chalmers. I'm surprised you missed the Nintendo bit.
Gerald "bread and....."
My brain "CHEESE"
Gerald "...butter"
Me "well that's stupid"
I'm glad I'm not alone 🤣
ohmygod - thankyou. though, I admit, it was more like...."uh... cheese?"
also glad to know I wasn't alone either!
Same, dawg
Yeah I didn't not finish the phrase. I usually eat my bread with some sort of fruit spread. I guess if it's like pasta I'll eat bread and butter though
I love the SFIII animations y’all put together
"5 cents"
Me: 2 dollars
Wait the fu-
They've returned.
This topic is also applicable in job with more thinking not only in gaming.
Yes. This entire video is a ripoff of Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking, fast and slow" which helps you determine the best times to apply system 1 or system 2 in your every day life
9:24 So I was at Level Up Expo (2020) and this basically summarizes my experience. My opponent was playing defensive, I got frustrated and wasnt thinking of ways to get around it and even though I was sure I was better, I lost the set anyways.
Since then I've been trying to fix my frustration while dealing with defensive players, but I'm telling you, it's hard. I know that if I get mad I'll lose, but I dont want to wait 30 seconds just to hit my opponent either. The only way I can describe that feeling is like fighting not only your opponent but yourself as well.
To anyone who wants to do anything competitively, I can only tell you to be patient. In the long run patience is going to win you a lot more games and I wish I had understood that sooner.
basically, “outlame your opponent.”
The bat and ball question is actually brilliant. I've been obsessed to the reasoning behing the correct answer until I've found a clear and concise explanation.
Fantastic analysis. This open and honest look at the balance between mind games and physical skill required to maintain in a competitive setting is so relatable. Too often is player skill boiled down to go-to meta combos and tactics, but the mental fortitude and calmness required to win a tournament is a real thing.
Never thought I’d see Manny Pacquiao speaking on this channel, but given how infamous Mayweather’s fighting style is, it completely makes sense 😅
Egg Salad Sandwich what’s his fighting style?
@@herpderp8267 Mayweather is the best defensive fighter of all time. He fights unorthodox and he's a counter puncher. All he has to do is pivot and use a shoulder role to evade anything. It helps being super fast also.
XDie StayFly Yup!
Not the biggest boxing fan out there, but from what I hear Mayweather tends to win by scoring more points from the judges because his shots are cleaner and his opponent would likely miss more punches
It’s “smart” and his record reflects it, but obviously if you’re an casual fan looking for aggresion you’d be very turned off.
@@herpderp8267 He plays lame.
It always impresses me how much love and effort you guys put on these videos. By far the best FGC channel on youtube. Thanks Core-a gaming!!
"At least doing a 360 is kind of like churning butter" because I'm sure the audience has loads of experience with that
This video has become the sole piece of content in RUclips that effectively talks me back into training.
Thank you
I love the feeling when you are in the zone and you playing a video game one of the best feelings in the world. I guess you can say I'm feeling The Flow.
Justin was right The best offense is a good defense. 👍
So cool that you've brought the idea of flow to FGC. I've been thinking about it for ages!
Jokes on you, I find clocks to have a very great taste and texture.
I agree
Clocks are filled with umami
That's also why I'd personally eat a clock rather than a mini snes.
Core-A: "Bread and..."
Me: "Wine."
Core-A: "Butter."
Exactly what I thought first
Did this man just make a 15 minute video to tell us "Get Gud!"?!
There is some discussion about the ego depletion effect and how it all works. The ego depletion effect, if it exists, can be countered by believing that the effect will not take place. So no need to go drink lemonade, just believe you will not be depleted and you are good.
몇년전부터 쭈욱 봐왓는데 진짜 영상하나하나에 정성이 대단하시네요. 격겜을 이런식으로 풀어낼수있다는것 자체가 정말로 신박하고 대단한거같습니다.
이 글을 읽으실지는 모르겟지만 다음 영상도 기대하고 응원합니다. 손잘씻으시고 서울에있는 스튜디오 대박나시길...
I mean, improving at fighting games has definitely helped my depression a ton, and seemed to fix my inferiority complex, so hey if that helps that last question at all.
Same here fam, it's helped a ton with depression, even if I'm getting my ass beat. I think my score in sfv is like 6 wins 52 losses, but I still come back for more, because regardless if I win, improving feels good af XD
@@clev7989 game is tough bro keeping going at it
Fighting games help me through quarantine. Can't see my friends so we train to become better with our mains and keep fighting online. Wish you all happiness and health.
all of us down here right now are like: Commenting, fast and slow
Commenting with our system-1.
Got recommended from a comment thinking this was an old video. Just released and S+ tier channel. I havent subscribed to something new in so long
I got a headache just going over that math question in my head. Damn near an aneurysm.
never clicked on a notification so fast
Jonathan same
The ball and Bat issue was confusing me, I had to look down in the comments. And the answer is a schemantic issue. I read the sentence and misheard. I always thought it said "1 Dollar more" Rather than "1 Dollar more *than* ".
System 32 failed me.
Craft2299 I had to look it up and everything because I didn’t understand it. I’m glad I never majored in math.
How would you get $1 more than .10? That's $1.20 total.
@@RetroPillowcase if the bat costs 1 dollar more than the ball, and the ball costs 5 cents, then the bat would cost 1.05 dollars. 5 cents plus 1.05 dollars equals 1.10 dollars. Get it?
@@RetroPillowcase He meant he read it as "$1 more on top of the ball", not as "$1 more THAN the ball". An equivalent blunder would be reading it as "$1, more than the ball" as if you assume the question writer forgot a comma.
@@yoyoguy1st I think another problem is that many assume that zeroes that aren't in between any non-zeroes, AKA "non-significant digits", really don't matter and are hence illegal to manipulate. They think "Zeroes are just placeholders, so why should they ever be necessary to manipulate?".
My friend: How do I get good at fighting games?
Pro fighting game player: It takes years of hard work and practice!
Me: Lots of sugar.
If so I'm unbeatable, I have so much sugar in blood a vampire would die of diabetes.
I just got back to college and the mention of system 1 and 2 thinking in my online philosophy class has brought me back here
He said “bread and..” and my mind went “toast” does that make me extra brain dead?
"If you can play it slowly - you can play it quickly."
trying to digest this...
system 1 = reaction, flowchart & quick mechanics (low brain drain)
system 2 = in-game adaptation, player/match-up based game plan (high brain drain) ???
wonder how much more of the system 2 stuff pros manage to convert into system 1 :thinking: (besides attack inputs of course)
imagine if your game sense is so sick that you can't get cheesed and it's easy to cheese your opponent.
or if your adaptation is so good that it clicks super fast naturally.
oh man what if EVERYTHING gets converted to system 1 and you can just flow and destroy while playing super hype. wait that's mang0 isn't it
@@gunkman_man I think it would be like taking a hit of crack, or for bipolar people, entering hypomania. I know that Mahvel and Skullgirls pros can belt out their ultra combos like it's nothing throughout a tournament, and on my really good days, I've been able to put a lot more things into system 1 than normal, including tight fastfalls and bait decisions.
mostly the stuff very new players take for granted having to learn day one. To reiterate LordKnight's old SRK article 'Look at the Screen', *screen awareness* is something players don't integrate until after awhile. Otherwise they are consciously paying too much attention at that information and taking it in context. Along with mental reminders to themselves how to execute towards the win condition.
One thing that is a high intensity System 2 activity that top players save their energy for is increased anticipation. In Tekken gameplay its been called 'compact' play, where not only do you have to play your opponent at a dangerously closer range. So attention to movement becomes more important but also trying to anticipate more moves to try block, actively punish or even catch a low parry. Because their opponent may not give enough mistakes to try punish and get ahead of the life lead. Players cannot keep playing at this intensity for long and it may drain them too hard for when they need to do this again very soon.
2:03 I instinctively said "milk" lol
The point is that you had an immediate completor, not exactly what that completer was.
One of the best videos on this channel. Incredible work.
Love how you apply the book on fighting games
"And why you can know how to quickly finish the phrase bread and..."
*CHEESE. IT'S CHEESE!*
"...butter"
Dammit
Cheese sandwiches are good, tho.
You just made my whole quarantine, Gerald.
This just made my night.
3 years later I'm checking your videos out to study for my psychology exam, the things you talk about are also talked about in first years of several psychology uni majors.
That Baseball question got me, I rarely use system 2. So a question like that doesn’t come quickly. This explains why I even though I try my best to improve I lose to basic hadoken spam strategies. Damn this video opened my eyes.