I love when people are like “you see this thing in my universe? Isn’t it stupid? I don’t get it.” as if they didn’t make it. It’s amazing. I do it all the time myself
I did that once making a language. Like: of course they have inclusive and exclusive because that’s just how they are. But why are particles the magical go-to in their language? And particle clusters? Wtf is up with these people??? I say, like I wasn’t the one who made the decisions.
I am never going to get over, for the rest of my life, the way you say "Speaking of consonants, TERRIBLE things happened to Proto-Thirean's uvular series."
I have to say, the way Edun sounds is my favorite of the three conlangs you showcased so far. It’s like... hard to pronounce but it actually sounds nice unlike other languages with complex codas
Edun's grammar makes Georgian look like Esperanto in terms of irregularly. And the spelling, my God... No wonder the Nekāchti script became so popular in their region. This was a fascinating video Biblaridion, keep up the good work!
At 8:32 : Am I the only one wondering why they needed a glyph for "flying spider"? Edit: Now that The Refugium: An Overview (ruclips.net/video/qpADtWJDqAI/видео.html) is out, we know the answer. Also, it's kind of sad that the most popular thing I've ever done on RUclips is now obsolete lol. Anyway, thanks for >50 Likes!
@@Cloudkirb Once you master its pronunciation and get used to hanzi. It's really straightforward. So yes, it's quite simple if you know what you're doing.
@@slayerslayer7623 It's mine as well, but the complicatedness in the orthography is just much that it left me going why would you do this(yes I know many real world languages do this, but even things like english had attempted reforms to make learning easier. It reminds me a bit of english) Anyway my reaction was like why would ppl do that...that's so dumb. And I was like, waaaaait this a conlang. Why would you do that to yourself?(and yes I know it's to be naturalistic colang)
The script is magnificent, I love tough „unlogical” scripts and this flowing lines are amazing. Grammar is also very well build. Verbs with two root are always in fashion. From my point of view there aren't any hard consonants clusters, but my native tongue allows this /zʑd͡ʑbw/ in onset so... In conclusion this conlang is excellent.
A conglanger when they're talking about how complex and unwieldly their conlang is: "And it gets even worse..." What they were constantly thinking when they came up with it: "Dude this would be so confusing and awesome if I did this"
I don't even know what to compare it's writing system with. Maybe Tibetan, if it was developed from a cuneiform-like system rather than from an abugida? I'm not sure anyone's ever been quite that insane in real life, but it is, admittedly, hard to tell, since we largely judge the pronunciations of many ancient languages by their writing system. (We can't exactly pop into our time machine with a zoom mic and record ancient Elamites to check how pronunciaton corresponds to their writing.)
@@Mr.Nichan The way the logographic elements combine with the phonetic remind me of Mayan Hieroglyphs, so Georgian on speed written in Mayan and Tibetan combined together by someone on speed?
I think I can see the relationship between "steering wheel" and "teacher". It's kind of in how those words are conceptualised. In English "steering wheel" explicitly incorporates "wheel", confusing the origins. But if I look at it from a Dutch perspective, it has a clear relationship with "govern", "lead" and "guide". Moreover, one of the Dutch words for teacher also means "master" (though it's rarely used in that sense). So if "ngwal" is a master, then "ngwàre" is a control, since it's literally "an instrument for leading/guiding". One type of control is a steering wheel. Confusing for English speakers, absolutely. But if you internalise these words the way a native speaker would, I think the connection is probably a lot clearer, if perhaps still a bit of a stretch.
It's pretty straightfoward in Hungarian too - the word for steering wheel is "kormány" & the word for "steer" is "kormányoz", which are the same words we use to say "government" & "govern" respectively, so if you think of teaching pupils as a form of governance the connection is immediately obvious.
19:35 reminds me of another conlang thing I did by accident. In a conlang I made that is supposed to be spoken by demons I made “p’itsa” the word for son or daughter, which is pronounced as the word “pizza” but with [p’] instead of [p]. I laughed after I realized what I did
You're so amazing at this, I'm surprised you haven’t been approached to design conlangs professionally. Fwiw, if the BBC are hiring (they'll need a conlanger soon if His Dark Mateials season 3 remains faithful to the books), I would certainly recommend applying for it.
Hey so, I’m not kidding, I’d absolutely buy anything you made into a book about your world and languages even if it was something as simple or “dry” as an encyclopedia with a bunch of charts of language family evolutions and major world history events. I thoroughly appreciate your aesthetic eye and the richness of your world from what you’ve shown so far and I’m really excited to see you make more!!
This is by far my favorite of your languages you've posted so far. Something about the consonant clusters, among other phonotactics, just sounds beautiful to me. The grammar is very interesting too, and even loosely might inspire one of my world's languages. Then again like all of your conlang videos gets me inspired/driven to worldbuild and conlang lol.
While this language makes little to no sense, I appreciate that you've created a language that's convoluted and has a reason for being as flawed as it is.
You inspire me to make conlangs for my own fictional world, but when I see the sheer complexity of your masterpieces like Edun here, it somewhat terrifies me xD
Really appreciate the "life is a fire" metaphor. I recently read Lakoff & Johnson's "Metaphors We Live By" and it was kind of life-changing. Really great to take into account with conlangs!
Hey man, do you think the Spanish-speaking commnity would like to learn this one? Because I've got a lot of people who love learning old, dead, contemporary or artificial languages
I think the script is similar to the fanqie 反切. According to wikipedia: “Fanqie is a method in traditional Chinese lexicography to indicate the pronunciation of a monosyllabic character by using two other characters, one with the same initial consonant as the desired syllable and one with the same rest of the syllable (the final).” For example we have the word 東 (east) which is described by the formula 德紅反, the first two characters indicate the onset and final, so the pronunciation of 東 [tuŋ] is given as the onset [t] of 德 [tək] with the final [uŋ] of 紅 [huŋ]. (德 means “virtue” and 紅 is “light red”)
@@Diego-ud3nb The difficulty of a language is hard to define by itself as it mainly depends on what languages you already speak, but like 5 million other languages in europe have grammatical gender while english doesn’t and my mom thinks it’s really quite an easy language. There’s also just how absurdly prevalent english is EVERYWHERE, so immersion material is basically nothing.
Here's the story of my conlang named Ol' Olvoron Along with it's translation: Klatsm eeshuh veshik oõlu klõ. Klõshn veshat riruhn eeshuh shiklash. Klivats eeshat riruhn veshuh atsesh. Lõshklivats ohtesh veshik klõshn. Eshuh veshat oõlushn vuhn rõ. Tõm riruhn iksats veshuh klõshn. Lõshklats ohtesh veshik riruhn zhuh ats. Klivats veshuh kõshn. Kõshik atsh veshik vuhn klivats. Eshuh atsheshn veshik tõla. Riruhnklats veshuh kõshn vuhn atsheshn klivats. Eshatshu veshat riruhn kõshn klõ. Shuklivats eeshuh klats rirõ. Translation: The empire emerged from the land. People gathered under its rule. They expanded and thrived. The language spread throughout the lands. People embraced it with joy. New words emerged and developed. Stories shaped their identity. The language grew strong. Old words transformed. People celebrated their heritage with pride.
this is pretty amazing. the sound overall is pretty nice, it sounds like a livable version of a major fantasy language that just doesn't hold up in the real world, like Dothrak or Klongon. they're both fine languages, but they don't sound very believable and maybe they're not meant to be, not all conlangs are created for the same reason. but what i'm saying is that this sounds like - more than anything its own thing, but secondarily - a naturalistic version of one of those major fantasy languages. for real world comparisons, it gives me some vague Moldovan vibes -- like a more Slavic Romanian
But dothrak is naturalistic. It was made by evolving a proto conlang. Sure we don’t have real life examples of dothraki people but the language was inspired by real world sources like Mongolian and Greenlandic for example. Plus the guy who was hired to make the language is very capable of making naturalistic languages. Klingon is very unnatural though, I agree. It was created for the sake of just being alien and the creators were just having fun and didn’t care too much about making it sound like a real world language.
Hey Biblaridion, do you have a website? If not, do you plan on getting one? It would be great if you had a place we could go to learn more about Edun and your other conlangs! Just something to think about, 'kay? ;)
I didn't understand a lot of this video (mainly the grammar parts), but I still nearly fainted when I saw the raw beauty of your script. Really cool language.
I have noticed something. Everytime you show the Thirean Family, you always put "Ilothwii" right next to it. It would be really interesting to find out it's relation.
I love this result! it seems like you managed to achieve an almost realistic level of socio-political complexity with this culture (linguistic changes always accompany social changes, they don't happen in a vacuum). I absolutely love the flavor of Edun being this incredibly old language with a ton of dialects that's completely stuck full of oddities. But I hope you will create in this world, or that you make it available for others to use.
The "ut" thing makes me think of how, in French, we sometimes put "le" in front of a verb in infinitive to nominalize it. For instance, we can say "le parler" ("speech", as in "spoken language", can also mean just "language", but it's literally "the to speak"), or "le manger" ("food", literally "the to eat"; this one is pretty informal, the formal word would be "la nourriture"). I also like "le savoir-faire", basically "savoir faire" means "to know how to do", but we nominalize both verbs together into "le savoir-faire" to mean "skill", "expertise" (and apparently, "savoir-faire" also exists in English, as well as "know-how"). But this nominalization trick is limited to only a handful of verbs, it's not as versatile as what you came up with.
One of my biggest struggles is that I don't know all the sound changes that are possible, so it's really hard for me to evolve my conlangs in ways that feel natural and different from one another because I only know a few of them. It also makes it really hard to evolve the sounds to get them in a place that I like them. Is there some sort of comprehensive list I can use, or is there some technique that you use to figure out what sound changes could actually occur?
Have a look through the index diachronica. Click on a sound in the chart and it lists just about every documented sound change that involves that sound: chridd.nfshost.com/diachronica/
On the topic of conlangs, I wonder how you would put together the language of an alien species with unusual mouth parts. Mandibles like the sangheili from halo, or something along those lines.
Its fascinating to try and recognize from which language he borrowed each concept, For example the ‘ut’ particle is very similar in nature to hahuatl’s ‘in’
as a non native speaker I literally don't understand 1/4 of the words used here lol. I guess my parents would ask what kind of language that is (referring to the used English).
I love when people are like “you see this thing in my universe? Isn’t it stupid? I don’t get it.” as if they didn’t make it. It’s amazing. I do it all the time myself
OMG SAME
I did that once making a language. Like: of course they have inclusive and exclusive because that’s just how they are. But why are particles the magical go-to in their language? And particle clusters? Wtf is up with these people???
I say, like I wasn’t the one who made the decisions.
This is literally me, not me joking about not understanding it, me actually not understanding my own convoluted universe.
@@radioactiveseaotter 😮
This is how God sees us
07:12 maybe the Edun speakers could update their writing system if they didn’t live in constant fear of flying spiders
This is brilliant 😂
I NO LONGER WANT TO LIVE HERE, I REGRET *ALL OF THE CHOICES*
@@decorativewingdingsWhatever you do, do not come to Australia.
"How's your mother doing?"
"Sadly, she had been E X T I N G U I S H E D."
*Hon hon hon in the distance*
"I'm so happy for your daughter! I heard she lit a baby on fire!"
@@thunderbolt9722 “911 what’s your emergency?”
“AAAAAA I’M BURNING ITS SO HOT AAAAAA”
“good for you sir”
@@thunderbolt9722 LMAOAOAOAAO
I am never going to get over, for the rest of my life, the way you say "Speaking of consonants, TERRIBLE things happened to Proto-Thirean's uvular series."
Lmao I love it too
THinK Of thE UVulaR SErIesSss 😭😭😭
3:05 am I the only one who thinks that "_ùmú_" looks like an angry "uwu'
ùmú
ùmú
ùmú
Padoru padoru
ùmú
I have to say, the way Edun sounds is my favorite of the three conlangs you showcased so far. It’s like... hard to pronounce but it actually sounds nice unlike other languages with complex codas
Very interesting, I'm glad to hear that. I think it sounds hideous.
If anything I feel it sounds a bit Slavic. Which isn't surprising with al the consonant clusters and palatal consonants.
@@GrunnenEnSeyst To me it kinda sounds like a pidgin of a slavic and a semitic language.
@@brkr78 I imagine it's the /x/ giving it the semitic twist. As a speaker of Dutch I don't find that very salient but I see where you're coming from.
@@GrunnenEnSeyst echt hè. Altijd maar weer dat gezeur met de g en zo, ik vind het echt niet zo lelijk klinken.
Damn lanfocus, biblaridion, conlang critic all uploaded a video. I declare this day as language day.
Oh wow... I only JUST Realized that and I've watched all three this afternoon!
You mean artifexian, oof
And artifexian too
@@danieldoel6216 langfocus did too. It's about albanian
@@blaizecramer6052 oh, never knew that, thanks
I love hearing people speak in their own conlangs. It's incredibly inspiring and satisfying
For real bro!
11:12
“...grammatical shenanigans”
-Biblaridion 2019
the history of every grammar of every natural language ever
french in one sentence
When someone asks what I'm doing but I have to make up an excuse
Edun's grammar makes Georgian look like Esperanto in terms of irregularly. And the spelling, my God... No wonder the Nekāchti script became so popular in their region. This was a fascinating video Biblaridion, keep up the good work!
Yeah, this guy needs to learn about analogy 😆
@@benpace2216 watch his other video, dude.
It's like chinese script!
@@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz uhm- no?
@@lebens3585 but with extra steps!
This language makes even Thai, Tibetan, and Japanese speakers have nightmares
Can confirm
Plus Thai people
This writing system*
@@dimanyak373 yep. It is a mess, but the spoken languague even sounds kinda hot.
19:52 we actually say the same thing in french : "He passed away" = "Il s'est éteint" (he has been extinguished) :)
j'ai pensé la même chose xD
Yeah no im not sure lmao
Oh wait im just dumb. We also say an homophone to fire, ''feu'', to purposely indicate a dead person
"He has been extinguished", damn that sounds cold af...
@@cacnus hon hon hon, start the extinguishing boys *starts hitting hand with baguette*
At 8:32 : Am I the only one wondering why they needed a glyph for "flying spider"?
Edit: Now that The Refugium: An Overview (ruclips.net/video/qpADtWJDqAI/видео.html) is out, we know the answer. Also, it's kind of sad that the most popular thing I've ever done on RUclips is now obsolete lol. Anyway, thanks for >50 Likes!
Guess it's a common house pest in this world....
Oh god!! I'm so glad I don't live in Tsannur
You seen the evolutionary conworlding series this dude's done?
Every being there is a horror spider/centipede looking thing lol
@@user-vm9xz4kv9z Turns out it is!
@@user-vm9xz4kv9z It's not hard to imagine that actually. They shouldn't be big anyways
I used to think that learning Mandarin was going to be a nightmare, now I'm counting my blessings
Mandarin is so daunting at first then it clicks and becomes beautifully simple in so many ways I promise
@@maxiapalucci2511 simple? Not really.
@@Cloudkirb Once you master its pronunciation and get used to hanzi. It's really straightforward. So yes, it's quite simple if you know what you're doing.
@@lycanrocmare6345agreed
*English spelling has left the chat*
*ingglish speling haz lef tha tshat*
Ʌiŋgliƹ speliŋ hėƨ left zẏ ꜫėt. - in spelling invited by mine
It is absolutely phonetic. :)
I am really proud of it.
Just 1 letter = 1sound, always
Sejong the Great has joined the chat to make sense of all this mess and institute much needed spelling reforms.
Me:
*learns about othography*
Why would anyone do this theese ppl are...
Waaaaaiiit...
This is a conlang.
😶
Why would you do this to yourself!!!???
Because, it's his hobby
@Eli Suryana that was my initial thought, then I remembered that this was a conlang.
@@motheartist7828 uncultured? Uhm...did I offend you?
@@slayerslayer7623
It's mine as well, but the complicatedness in the orthography is just much that it left me going why would you do this(yes I know many real world languages do this, but even things like english had attempted reforms to make learning easier. It reminds me a bit of english)
Anyway my reaction was like why would ppl do that...that's so dumb.
And I was like, waaaaait this a conlang. Why would you do that to yourself?(and yes I know it's to be naturalistic colang)
@@Zarsla the thing is, that is really fun to make such writing systems. I find them so intriguing, and I want to make one so bad.
The script is magnificent, I love tough „unlogical” scripts and this flowing lines are amazing.
Grammar is also very well build. Verbs with two root are always in fashion.
From my point of view there aren't any hard consonants clusters, but my native tongue allows this /zʑd͡ʑbw/ in onset so...
In conclusion this conlang is excellent.
What is your native language?) my lang’s max onset is only /fspl/
Presumably Polish
Majestas Alt I don’t think so, cuz polish is simpler. It may be one of сaucasian languages, or native americans lang
@@jh3q It is polish, of course this kinds of clusters are rare but they happen sometimes.
„Z źdźbłem” it means „with grass culm”.
Jobda wow, it’s so hard to pronounce even for me) (I’m Russian)
A conglanger when they're talking about how complex and unwieldly their conlang is: "And it gets even worse..."
What they were constantly thinking when they came up with it: "Dude this would be so confusing and awesome if I did this"
I appreciation how this conlang follows real historical tendencies. It sounds beautiful and has an elegant script as well.
finally a story of how thordorkim becomes dzvirzha
thangqərkhiim
*Dzvirzhã
How?
but can we talk about how in the hell "ngqaahi" became "[vɛj]"?
@@ferociousfeind8538 ⁿɢaːhi > ɢaːhi > ʀaːhi > waːhi > waːi > vaːj > vɛːj > vɛj
“Linguistically, Edun is-“ *gets cheeto ad*
Edun is *_d a n g e r o u s l y_* *_c h e e s y_*
Thats gotta be a big cheeto
Me just starting the video: How could you possibly be confused by your own language
Me 10 minutes in: Wait no stop I understand now
The first time I watched this video, it was completely over my head, now I can finally appreciate how awesome it is. Super inspiring.
OMG that's like Georgian on speed...
Except written, in that case, written Georgian makes sense and is pretty easy to learn.
I don't even know what to compare it's writing system with. Maybe Tibetan, if it was developed from a cuneiform-like system rather than from an abugida? I'm not sure anyone's ever been quite that insane in real life, but it is, admittedly, hard to tell, since we largely judge the pronunciations of many ancient languages by their writing system. (We can't exactly pop into our time machine with a zoom mic and record ancient Elamites to check how pronunciaton corresponds to their writing.)
So it's georgian written in tibetan script while on speed?
georgian is way worst then this
@@Mr.Nichan The way the logographic elements combine with the phonetic remind me of Mayan Hieroglyphs, so Georgian on speed written in Mayan and Tibetan combined together by someone on speed?
"they needed a standarized form of a script so they introduced sophhdfdwoapsdfhs"
sophyekhtsut
This comment is vastly underrated
This video is basically a loop of "thankfully tho, something good happens" and "unfortunately tho, something even worse happens"
Love your channel
I think I can see the relationship between "steering wheel" and "teacher". It's kind of in how those words are conceptualised. In English "steering wheel" explicitly incorporates "wheel", confusing the origins. But if I look at it from a Dutch perspective, it has a clear relationship with "govern", "lead" and "guide". Moreover, one of the Dutch words for teacher also means "master" (though it's rarely used in that sense). So if "ngwal" is a master, then "ngwàre" is a control, since it's literally "an instrument for leading/guiding". One type of control is a steering wheel.
Confusing for English speakers, absolutely. But if you internalise these words the way a native speaker would, I think the connection is probably a lot clearer, if perhaps still a bit of a stretch.
Exactly, "to take the wheel" is also a way of saying "to take control" in English, right?
The English word for govern comes from a Greek word meaning steering
eh, made enough sense to me, even without his explanation
It's pretty straightfoward in Hungarian too - the word for steering wheel is "kormány" & the word for "steer" is "kormányoz", which are the same words we use to say "government" & "govern" respectively, so if you think of teaching pupils as a form of governance the connection is immediately obvious.
This is insane in the best possible way, you are insanely good at conlanging
This is probably the best conlang you’ve made in my opinion. To me, it actually feels like it could be a real language in the world.
I'VE BEEN WAITING EVER SINCE WE SAW THAT LOGOGRAPHY
19:35 reminds me of another conlang thing I did by accident. In a conlang I made that is supposed to be spoken by demons I made “p’itsa” the word for son or daughter, which is pronounced as the word “pizza” but with [p’] instead of [p]. I laughed after I realized what I did
So do the demons eat their sons and daughters? Lol :D
I will not imagine what you are eating
Pierre Proudhon how rude of you to assume I’m a demon XD
You're so amazing at this, I'm surprised you haven’t been approached to design conlangs professionally. Fwiw, if the BBC are hiring (they'll need a conlanger soon if His Dark Mateials season 3 remains faithful to the books), I would certainly recommend applying for it.
Brilliant
So basically this is the Georgian of your con world?
@Eli Suryana what is ubykh
Benedict Mannheim I’m not Eli but, Ubykh is just something else, google it.
Ah, it seems that this comment is a relic of the Pre-Ilothwii Period.
@@i_teleported_bread7404 yes
@@Bruh-hq1hx a now extinct language, famous for having the most consonants of natural language.
Hey so, I’m not kidding, I’d absolutely buy anything you made into a book about your world and languages even if it was something as simple or “dry” as an encyclopedia with a bunch of charts of language family evolutions and major world history events. I thoroughly appreciate your aesthetic eye and the richness of your world from what you’ve shown so far and I’m really excited to see you make more!!
Wait, there are cars? I thought this was like the 1400s.
I have about 6000 years of history plotted out, spanning from the equivalent of the paleolithic to a sort of post-industrial modern era.
@@Biblaridion Okay, thanks!
oh my god, do you earn money for all this? hOw maNy daMN tiMe dO yOu hAvE?
@@Biblaridion Oooh, that's pretty epic actually
@@EduardoHerrera-fr6bd everyone's gotta have a hobby.
So much hard work went into this...
My goodness... Now I'm inspired too.
I feel lazy sitting here doing my homework, I need to work on my conlang.
Fun fact: edun means crazy in Sundanese
Coincidence? I think NOT
This one sounds very nice, very distinctive, not just a copy of an existing phonology
I had to watch this video in parts because it made my head hurt too much
This is by far my favorite of your languages you've posted so far. Something about the consonant clusters, among other phonotactics, just sounds beautiful to me. The grammar is very interesting too, and even loosely might inspire one of my world's languages. Then again like all of your conlang videos gets me inspired/driven to worldbuild and conlang lol.
While this language makes little to no sense, I appreciate that you've created a language that's convoluted and has a reason for being as flawed as it is.
I really like this language, it's way more thought out that most conlangs
Litterally a few days ago I wished for just this video to come, and it just casually did yay
I think it would be cool for you to make a video comparing the thirean languages
Conlang Critic, Biblaridion, Langfocus AND Artifexian upload the same day. Am I in heaven?😍😍
And Nativlang
No his latest video was uploaded on Nov 29th
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i've beenwaiting for this since the last one thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It would be interessting to see one of the creoles he mentioned in the Oqolaawak video
Evil Sheep God yes oh my god I forgot about that. That must be a seriously interesting mix
This is now one of my favorite conlangs. Well done
First a Conlang Critic, then this?
This is just great a video about edun (which you have mentioned in the past) and conlang critic has reviewed sindarin and atefexian has uploaded
I personally think the visual design of the Edun script is beautiful. It loosely inspired the script of my first conlang, Atsurian
You inspire me to make conlangs for my own fictional world, but when I see the sheer complexity of your masterpieces like Edun here, it somewhat terrifies me xD
Really appreciate the "life is a fire" metaphor. I recently read Lakoff & Johnson's "Metaphors We Live By" and it was kind of life-changing. Really great to take into account with conlangs!
The script section left me torn between "no way any people would stick to such an impractical writing system" and ANADEW
English & tibetan: entered the chat
Closest example is probably tibetan.
Hey man, do you think the Spanish-speaking commnity would like to learn this one? Because I've got a lot of people who love learning old, dead, contemporary or artificial languages
Dani e Idiomas I think it's just as approachable from most languages, by which I mean difficultly. Go for it!
Probably because Spanish is an old artificial language.
Unpopular opinion: That writing system is beautiful. This is my favorite language of yours
Biblaridion, never stops to amaze me with how fucking convoluted his languages are.
Gosh man I love the world-building aspect of your conlangs!! Keep up with with the great work!!
frick this language is beautiful... like you pushed the threshold of Slavic and created a unique sound, well done!
I think the script is similar to the fanqie 反切. According to wikipedia: “Fanqie is a method in traditional Chinese lexicography to indicate the pronunciation of a monosyllabic character by using two other characters, one with the same initial consonant as the desired syllable and one with the same rest of the syllable (the final).”
For example we have the word 東 (east) which is described by the formula 德紅反, the first two characters indicate the onset and final, so the pronunciation of 東 [tuŋ] is given as the onset [t] of 德 [tək] with the final [uŋ] of 紅 [huŋ].
(德 means “virtue” and 紅 is “light red”)
Oh yeah totally
You can definitely see traces of Chinese influenced concepts in the language.
Schön! Sehr Schön! Immer ist es ein schöner Tag, wenn ich ein Biblaridion Video sehen kann!
my classmates complaining about how hard English is
me: *ùmú*
It is hard tho ut has like 14 vowels isnt phonetic u cant really predict how to pronounce words and only has 26 letters for like 100 sounds so likeeee
@@Diego-ud3nb The difficulty of a language is hard to define by itself as it mainly depends on what languages you already speak, but like 5 million other languages in europe have grammatical gender while english doesn’t and my mom thinks it’s really quite an easy language.
There’s also just how absurdly prevalent english is EVERYWHERE, so immersion material is basically nothing.
Am I the only one who understands one in 15 things he says but is still entertained?
Here's the story of my conlang named Ol' Olvoron Along with it's translation:
Klatsm eeshuh veshik oõlu klõ. Klõshn veshat riruhn eeshuh shiklash. Klivats eeshat riruhn veshuh atsesh. Lõshklivats ohtesh veshik klõshn. Eshuh veshat oõlushn vuhn rõ. Tõm riruhn iksats veshuh klõshn. Lõshklats ohtesh veshik riruhn zhuh ats. Klivats veshuh kõshn. Kõshik atsh veshik vuhn klivats. Eshuh atsheshn veshik tõla. Riruhnklats veshuh kõshn vuhn atsheshn klivats. Eshatshu veshat riruhn kõshn klõ. Shuklivats eeshuh klats rirõ.
Translation: The empire emerged from the land. People gathered under its rule. They expanded and thrived. The language spread throughout the lands. People embraced it with joy. New words emerged and developed. Stories shaped their identity. The language grew strong. Old words transformed. People celebrated their heritage with pride.
this makes Tibetan look easy
Im pretty sure I havent understood anything in this video, but I sure as hell love this convoluted mess of a language!
god this was a wild ride. you're a master at this. what a joy! Would love to see you make an analytic/isolating language.
Thangqərkhiim > tsagqərchiim > tsaʀerchim > tsavirchem > tsvirshem > tsvirzhem > dzvirzhə̃ > dzvirzhã
Thanks bro
you should try to get one of these on Duolingo!!
The written script for this is beautiful but boy is the language itself intimidating
this is pretty amazing. the sound overall is pretty nice, it sounds like a livable version of a major fantasy language that just doesn't hold up in the real world, like Dothrak or Klongon. they're both fine languages, but they don't sound very believable and maybe they're not meant to be, not all conlangs are created for the same reason. but what i'm saying is that this sounds like - more than anything its own thing, but secondarily - a naturalistic version of one of those major fantasy languages. for real world comparisons, it gives me some vague Moldovan vibes -- like a more Slavic Romanian
But dothrak is naturalistic. It was made by evolving a proto conlang. Sure we don’t have real life examples of dothraki people but the language was inspired by real world sources like Mongolian and Greenlandic for example. Plus the guy who was hired to make the language is very capable of making naturalistic languages. Klingon is very unnatural though, I agree. It was created for the sake of just being alien and the creators were just having fun and didn’t care too much about making it sound like a real world language.
I’m curious though, I know you might not answer since your comment was four years ago, but what aspect of Dothraki sounded unnatural to you?
This is intimidating and inspiring at the same time. Great work!
Get the popcorn ready boys...
WE WANT MORE!
Agreed
somehow, Classic Maya manages to have more confusing verbal grammar than the Ēdun languages.
Hey Biblaridion, do you have a website? If not, do you plan on getting one? It would be great if you had a place we could go to learn more about Edun and your other conlangs!
Just something to think about, 'kay? ;)
I didn't understand a lot of this video (mainly the grammar parts), but I still nearly fainted when I saw the raw beauty of your script. Really cool language.
If You mean You like the Script then You must like very complicated Writing Systems not updated in Centuries
@@myomyat2216 Yea
I've been waiting for so long
on my 875th rewatch of this video I notice əngqə, "flying spider"
flying wHAT
I have noticed something. Everytime you show the Thirean Family, you always put "Ilothwii" right next to it. It would be really interesting to find out it's relation.
Hey, what do you know! I got what I wanted.
not gonna lie: my sexuality is just the way he pronounces Ulazredhun
This writing is so beautiful! How do I get my hands on that chart at 6:16?
And a chart for Nekachti,?
That sounds like a mix of Latin, Gothic, Dutch, Portuguese, Hebrew, Russian and Hungarian. Wow! Try to hear so many langs in one speach probe.
I love this result! it seems like you managed to achieve an almost realistic level of socio-political complexity with this culture (linguistic changes always accompany social changes, they don't happen in a vacuum). I absolutely love the flavor of Edun being this incredibly old language with a ton of dialects that's completely stuck full of oddities. But I hope you will create in this world, or that you make it available for others to use.
How did you type the Edun symbols? my language has over 226 characters and I want to put it in google docs.
That script is like... Thai on steroids :o
Very nice
You mean Tibetan
@@soton4010 Either...
"The historical spelling is strong in this one" is what I mean XD
The "ut" thing makes me think of how, in French, we sometimes put "le" in front of a verb in infinitive to nominalize it. For instance, we can say "le parler" ("speech", as in "spoken language", can also mean just "language", but it's literally "the to speak"), or "le manger" ("food", literally "the to eat"; this one is pretty informal, the formal word would be "la nourriture").
I also like "le savoir-faire", basically "savoir faire" means "to know how to do", but we nominalize both verbs together into "le savoir-faire" to mean "skill", "expertise" (and apparently, "savoir-faire" also exists in English, as well as "know-how").
But this nominalization trick is limited to only a handful of verbs, it's not as versatile as what you came up with.
One of my biggest struggles is that I don't know all the sound changes that are possible, so it's really hard for me to evolve my conlangs in ways that feel natural and different from one another because I only know a few of them. It also makes it really hard to evolve the sounds to get them in a place that I like them. Is there some sort of comprehensive list I can use, or is there some technique that you use to figure out what sound changes could actually occur?
Have a look through the index diachronica. Click on a sound in the chart and it lists just about every documented sound change that involves that sound: chridd.nfshost.com/diachronica/
11:34 shouldn’t “friend” be in the accusative in Nekāchti?
do you think you could ever do a video on proto-thirean?
Once again I see that you are a genuine conlang master
On the topic of conlangs, I wonder how you would put together the language of an alien species with unusual mouth parts. Mandibles like the sangheili from halo, or something along those lines.
Its fascinating to try and recognize from which language he borrowed each concept,
For example the ‘ut’ particle is very similar in nature to hahuatl’s ‘in’
my god this is so well thought out
The verb system is like Georgian.
as a non native speaker I literally don't understand 1/4 of the words used here lol. I guess my parents would ask what kind of language that is (referring to the used English).
as a native english speaker, same
I love how the lang's name is so nice and simple and then you look at the grammar and start screaming
The name Dosen't matter
Are there any specific resources you used to learn so much about worldbuilding and language stuff?
Kevycat Minecraft&more! Practice. There are subreddits and discords for both if you want hmu
19:25
" i'm gonna commit arson! "
" congratulations! "
calm down there Imunrakhar
When is alien biospheres 4 coming out?
Most of us really, really like this conlang stuff, can you be patient with yourself
Anal Percussion some*
Edun's fire idioms are quite lovely.