Conlang Critic: Poliespo

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2020
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Комментарии • 1 тыс.

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily 2 года назад +1753

    The word "banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx" looks like someone was typing "banana" and then someone dropped a piano on them.

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat 2 года назад +158

      Maybe that's why they don't like bananas. Bad memories, y'know?

    • @RichConnerGMN
      @RichConnerGMN 2 года назад +36

      nice pfp

    • @DialecticRed
      @DialecticRed 2 года назад +101

      The fact that you took the time to input the circumflexes and the / through the a to make this comment is honestly commendable.

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat 2 года назад +50

      @@DialecticRed the ComposeKey utility is one of the most useful things ever.

    • @abxyabxy281
      @abxyabxy281 2 года назад +9

      LOL

  • @boxwater
    @boxwater 4 года назад +2409

    "Comparing Poliespo to Vötgil is an insult to Vötgil" Is such a powerful phrase.
    i love it

  • @elemenopi9239
    @elemenopi9239 4 года назад +3457

    bruh i can't believe they made polio into a language

  • @sowelichemlatu1789
    @sowelichemlatu1789 4 года назад +1821

    imagine being murdered by a bad conlanger

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 4 года назад +131

      What a way to go

    • @slamwall9057
      @slamwall9057 4 года назад +104

      Imagine murdering a bad conlang

    • @rickelvi
      @rickelvi 4 года назад +69

      I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did

    • @user-nd7ts7bp6g
      @user-nd7ts7bp6g 3 года назад +74

      Imagine having to put a bad conlanger on the most wanted list

    • @0hate9
      @0hate9 3 года назад +64

      I feel like, if you're going to be murdered by a conlanger, it's more likely that they're a bad one

  • @falpsdsqglthnsac
    @falpsdsqglthnsac 4 года назад +2711

    “I literally cannot imagine a language worse than Poliespo.”
    Challenge accepted.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 4 года назад +731

      I made a script that is literally just diacritics. There is always a bigger fish.

    • @rayelgatubelo
      @rayelgatubelo 4 года назад +440

      Gonna be hard... Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona.

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts 4 года назад +283

      I mean, I'd start by making the entire consonant inventory all of the sounds that the IPA considers theoretically pronouncable by humans, but which no current language uses. Then I guess you could use latin characters, but shuffled just so your intuition from any other language is always wrong. I suppose for vowels you'd have to avoid 'a', 'i', and 'o', and maybe also have nasal and aspirated vowels that encode wildly distinct meanings.
      Even then, though, sooner or later someone reading that document is going to realize you're just taking the piss.

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 года назад +1732

      if you're trying to make it bad and you succeed and it's bad, that means you did a good job achieving your goal and therefore it isn't bad

    • @falpsdsqglthnsac
      @falpsdsqglthnsac 4 года назад +526

      Conlang Critic but then, if it isn’t bad, then it failed at its goal, making it bad again

  • @jordanberndt4157
    @jordanberndt4157 4 года назад +737

    People who actually have the time to make an entire conlang:
    1. Tenured academics
    2. Wealthy people in need of hobby
    3. Convicts serving a life sentence in prison for murder

    • @nicolasglemot6760
      @nicolasglemot6760 4 года назад +83

      @haven adventurer This makes it even sadder. The person who made this not only had a mind and/or life fucked up enough to get them to the point of killing innocent people, but they also made it knowing they were gonna die (and litterally waiting for it), probably as an attempt to leave some kind of legacy behind them...And even then it's as bad as it could possibly be.

    • @i_teleported_bread7404
      @i_teleported_bread7404 3 года назад +9

      Jokes on you, I'm poor as dirt, have no job, and am not as of now on death row.

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie 3 года назад +18

      4. Writers and worldbuilders

    • @cubixthree3495
      @cubixthree3495 2 года назад +6

      @@i_teleported_bread7404 Congratulations!

    • @Pandadude-eg9li
      @Pandadude-eg9li 2 года назад +12

      4 Jack Eisenmann

  • @AshtonSnapp
    @AshtonSnapp 4 года назад +1221

    This language can be summed up with one word:
    *nope*

  • @KateGladstone
    @KateGladstone 4 года назад +925

    It gives the term “_*con*_lang” at least two whole new meanings ...

    • @franzsteiner2341
      @franzsteiner2341 4 года назад +67

      I read this and made a sound in between a laugh and a whimper

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 года назад +45

      @@franzsteiner2341 a lhighnpre?

    • @derpydayha7305
      @derpydayha7305 4 года назад +4

      @@franzsteiner2341 this was my response precisely

    • @zonk1
      @zonk1 4 года назад

      yike

  • @cartermakice3890
    @cartermakice3890 3 года назад +1013

    "make an IAL but only release resources in Esperanto" is literally #416 on the bad conlanging ideas tumblr

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 3 года назад +180

      wait you mean that page ISNT a checklist?

    • @Brivalia
      @Brivalia 2 года назад +130

      @@elemenopi9239 -The guy who made Kay(f)bop(t)

    • @qui9797
      @qui9797 2 года назад +162

      same with “make a conlang you can only join if you enter an MLM”

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 Год назад +60

      @@qui9797 Holy shit, what if this conlang is _supposed_ to be bad? What if it really _is_ a joke that people didn't get, and those guys from 1993 really _did_ completely misrepresent what the language was about?

    • @element1192
      @element1192 Год назад

      @@nixel1324 No i think it was just an incredibly mentally disturbed person's attempt at creating something

  • @esbendit
    @esbendit 4 года назад +1111

    Any hypothetical conlang worse than poliespo is likely made specifically to be bad, in which case it would be an astounding success, and thus still better than poliespo.

    • @rayelgatubelo
      @rayelgatubelo 4 года назад +90

      Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona in comparison.

    • @nicolasglemot6760
      @nicolasglemot6760 4 года назад +104

      @@rayelgatubelo Well, to be fair, Kay(f)bop(t) is an amazing conlang.

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 года назад +58

      @@rayelgatubelo I dunno. Kay(f)bop(t) isn't actually really speakable. Theoretically, Poliespo is speakable, if really garbled. Kay(f)bop(t) is structurally, fundamentally, meant to be impractical to the point of failure.

    • @MisterHunterWolf
      @MisterHunterWolf 4 года назад +20

      Don't try to be good at being bad, be bad at being good.

    • @p.g.v.3765
      @p.g.v.3765 3 года назад +7

      @@Theo-oh3jk and it archives its goals better than most other conlangs out there

  • @christinawisdom1128
    @christinawisdom1128 4 года назад +1111

    as a cherokee speaker i actually got mad when it said that it only had 2 native cherokee words...
    I would want to make a cherokee based conlang but i feel like thats almost disrespectful because instead i could just get people to learn cherokee

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 года назад +101

      Please do make a Cherokee-based conlang, it would be great. But please make it a good one! I am not American and have little knowledge of Native American languages. NA-based conlangs would get conlangers more interested in them. So many conlangs are made by European language speakers and generally copy European languages.

    • @lfocoap4950ajf8
      @lfocoap4950ajf8 3 года назад +51

      i really wanted to include 40-50% cherokee vocabulary and grammar into a conlang but there's no resources for the language anywhere. please do either, language is such an integral part of culture and we haven't put enough effort in to preserve them

    • @orereocookie6538
      @orereocookie6538 3 года назад +49

      @@lfocoap4950ajf8 You can learn about the Cherokee language using an online resource called, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee". There is a really interesting story behind the development of this resource in that it features a dictionary that is capable of forming complete "word-sentences" that are described by Native speakers to resemble the speech patterns of past (and passed) generations, hence, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee".

    • @isaacthecorncob
      @isaacthecorncob 3 года назад +10

      @@MatthewMcVeagh That's exactly what I set out to do with my conlangs. I have eight sperate conlangs all largely inspired by various native American languages (one that has a bit of Na'vi in it, too). I also have one conlang inspired by Nahuatl and one that is largely inspired by Hawaiian and various other Austronesian and Polynesian languages

    • @yoru900
      @yoru900 2 года назад +5

      Do you know some good resources for learning Cherokee? I'd like to learn it

  • @ganymedeanoutlaw
    @ganymedeanoutlaw 4 года назад +691

    "You've got to commit to your bad decisions" You know, it sounds like this guy doesn't have a problem with committing things.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 года назад +14

      Eyyy

    • @NicknotNak
      @NicknotNak 4 года назад +23

      Apparently not where it matters though

    • @maxvogt3515
      @maxvogt3515 Год назад +3

      Apparently commuting to them 3 times over

    • @zhaleyleitnib5150
      @zhaleyleitnib5150 8 месяцев назад

      he was innocent and framed. there was never any evidence he even killed those people. he is even up to retrial now since his convictions were overturned.

  • @joeyjojo6148
    @joeyjojo6148 4 года назад +1569

    Thanks for the shoutout! I just want to assure everyone that no matter how bad the document looked from the quick glimpses jan Misali showed, it's far worse. He didn't even get into Billy's claims of how Zamenhof ripped off Cherokee, or the stuff about psychics.

    • @Ptaku93
      @Ptaku93 4 года назад +151

      I need to know the stuff about psychics, please!!

    • @joeyjojo6148
      @joeyjojo6148 4 года назад +365

      @@Ptaku93 He went to a psychic who told him that Poliespo would be widely used in the field of technology and after the human race united. Then because Esperanto has the preposition 'po' and Poliespo can be shortened as 'po,' that's proof that the spirit of Sequoyah influenced them both.

    • @W4t3rf1r3
      @W4t3rf1r3 4 года назад +30

      Vi estas multe pli kuraĝa ol mi.

    • @danieldelizaur435
      @danieldelizaur435 4 года назад +29

      Can someone give me a link to that document?

    • @nutritionalyeast7978
      @nutritionalyeast7978 4 года назад +38

      I'm keen for the document too, i've searched a while for it on the internet and only gotten rephrasings of the wikipedia page and dead links

  • @user-tl8rk6pb6k
    @user-tl8rk6pb6k 3 года назад +398

    Billy: adds a dozen of new sounds to accommodate the Cherokee vocabulary
    Also Billy: adds only 2 words from Cherokee

    • @trinity_null
      @trinity_null 2 года назад +99

      and neither of them use the new sounds lmao

    • @numburger
      @numburger 2 года назад +12

      @@trinity_null They're special

  • @andremassabki6034
    @andremassabki6034 4 года назад +417

    Gee, we all lived to witness Vötgil's redemption

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 года назад +28

      Vötgil redemption arc?

    • @yerdasellsavon9232
      @yerdasellsavon9232 3 года назад +12

      1st of Feb is a happy day in the vötgil community

    • @IceCenders
      @IceCenders Год назад +7

      Like when the big baddie of season 1 becomes the antihero of season 3 when a much, much tougher enemy comes along.

  • @bloodypommelstudios7144
    @bloodypommelstudios7144 4 года назад +283

    Haven't even got in to the language and we find out it's a pyramid scheme and the creator is on death row. I can tell this is going to be special!

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 года назад +6

      Is he still on death row or is he dead now?

    • @Mmmm1ch43l
      @Mmmm1ch43l 2 года назад +14

      @@Anonymous-df8it still there apparently

    • @chrisamies2141
      @chrisamies2141 Год назад +29

      so he's a con (convict), a conman and a conlanger?

    • @bloodypommelstudios7144
      @bloodypommelstudios7144 Год назад +4

      @@chrisamies2141 How the hell didn't I think of that!

  • @gayvideos3808
    @gayvideos3808 4 года назад +430

    "It's like it was specifically designed with me specifically in mind, with the intention of using the Latin alphabet in a way that's as disgusting as possible to me personally"

    • @gayvideos3808
      @gayvideos3808 4 года назад +121

      Actually someone should do that: watch the entire series, take notes of all the features he grimaces at, and make a conlang whose sole purpose is to be mitch's personal hell

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 3 года назад +3

      Pactura how has no one done this?

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 года назад +25

      @@gayvideos3808 a helllang specifically designed for jan Misali, huh? I'm in.

    • @EnriqueLaberintico
      @EnriqueLaberintico 2 года назад +10

      @@gayvideos3808 The Bad Conlang. It's like The Bad Place but in language form.

    • @Pandadude-eg9li
      @Pandadude-eg9li 2 года назад +14

      Plot twist: He looks at it and decides that it isn't bad because it succeeded in being insulting to him, and the Conlanger did a good job with his insult.

  • @jsgsevsik9492
    @jsgsevsik9492 4 года назад +915

    This episode is the funniest thing Ive seen in a long time

    • @pikapuffin368
      @pikapuffin368 4 года назад +47

      I just love how savage he gets with this one. This wasn’t a review - this was an execution with a flourish.

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 4 года назад +21

      He turned himself into a terrible language, funniest shit I've ever seen!

    • @sunwukong6897
      @sunwukong6897 4 года назад +26

      That “insult to Vötgil” comment was gold

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 года назад +6

      I actually found it depressing and had to stop halfway through and take it up again later.

    • @yerdasellsavon9232
      @yerdasellsavon9232 3 года назад +3

      @Gnomicality I like to think they died for this

  • @theneongoomba
    @theneongoomba 4 года назад +420

    Wait, so Poliespo is a pyramid sceme?

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 2 года назад +25

      actually I think it's a trapezoid scheme.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily 2 года назад +42

      And that isn't even the fourth-worst thing about it.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад

      @@youmukonpaku3168 a complicated variant of hangman?

  • @morganhopkins204
    @morganhopkins204 4 года назад +319

    Are you sure this isn't why he's on death row?

  • @fernandobanda5734
    @fernandobanda5734 4 года назад +189

    On one hand, this is not too far from someone's first try at conlanging. On the other hand, if you use "2" and some letters on top of others, we can't be friends.

    • @lawrencecalablaster568
      @lawrencecalablaster568 3 года назад +24

      I was going to be like “but 2 can represent ء in Arabic” but that’s only in online romanizations so never mind.

    • @heckoff7904
      @heckoff7904 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lawrencecalablaster568not to necro but 7 is a glottal stop in Squamish i believe.

  • @Mercure250
    @Mercure250 4 года назад +225

    Basically, this is auxlang gore

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat 2 года назад +72

    When a conlang is a pyramid scheme and that's not even the worst thing about it, you know you're dealing with something truly special.

  • @devonoknabo2582
    @devonoknabo2582 4 года назад +127

    Poliespo: you have weird hats
    Esperanto: I suppose you think that's cute what it makes you is a fraud

  • @mi8628
    @mi8628 4 года назад +662

    This video makes me want to try to make a good IAL, but it also makes me want to try to make a language worse than Poliespo.
    Neither of these goals are achievable.

    • @laprankster3264
      @laprankster3264 4 года назад +47

      The first goal could be achievable with a sound inventory something like this /p~b/ /t/ /k/ /s/ /t͡ʃ~ʃ/ /x~h/ /m/ /n~ɲ/ /v~w/ /l~r/ /j/ /i/ /u~ɯ/ /e~ɛ/ /o~ɔ/ /a~ɑ/, an analytic (though not necessarily isolating) grammar, an SVO or SOV word order, and vocabulary from a variety of sources.

    • @ApriiSR
      @ApriiSR 4 года назад +34

      @@laprankster3264 so basically toki pona

    • @laprankster3264
      @laprankster3264 4 года назад +41

      @@ApriiSR kind of, but I don’t think 123 words would be enough. I personally prefer to be able to express complex concepts without having to create a bunch of complex phrases in every sentence.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 4 года назад +12

      @@laprankster3264 The vocabulary part is what I find most difficult. Assuming you're looking for more than just relying on Latin roots.

    • @ApriiSR
      @ApriiSR 4 года назад +12

      @@laprankster3264 toki pona could use a little more expansion, maybe a good way to make subordinate clauses. The vocabulary could use expansion, but it doesn't need as much as you'd think.

  • @rubbedibubb5017
    @rubbedibubb5017 4 года назад +341

    Wait. Sequoyah was also the name of the guy who created the cherokee syllabary. He did a better job than this guy, and he didn’t even know how to read any script besides his own syllabary. He was just inspired by the shapes of latin letters.

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 4 года назад +19

      Yep.

    • @jacobscrackers98
      @jacobscrackers98 4 года назад +9

      The shapes of the letters have little to no connection to other scripts that look similar to it, therefore by jan Misali's standards is a bad script.

    • @gwest3644
      @gwest3644 3 года назад +42

      @@jacobscrackers98 But it isn’t meant to be a Latin orthography, just an entirely new script.

    • @Ealsante
      @Ealsante 3 года назад +33

      Sequoyah didn't just 'do a better job' than this murdering fuckhead. Sequoyah is a big damn hero, and just hearing Waldon appropriate his name is infuriating.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily 2 года назад +22

      @@jacobscrackers98 The key is that the Cherokee syllabary is _based on_ the Latin alphabet, while Poliespo simply uses the Latin alphabet itself. Using "Ꮞ" for /se/ is far more sensible than using "2" for /ə̃/.

  • @solarplayza2614
    @solarplayza2614 4 года назад +233

    Vötgil: exists
    Poliespo: sir im gonna have to take your “worst conlang” license, hand it over

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 4 года назад +30

      Vötgil: *looks at Poliespo* OH SHIT YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE IT FUCK

    • @averyvonfrank3282
      @averyvonfrank3282 Год назад

      i think you mean ûqrst

    • @etruscanetwork
      @etruscanetwork 14 дней назад +1

      VötGil: I'm the dumbest conlang alive
      Poliespo: "Osijo, samideanoj"
      VötGil: You're clearly dumber 🫴👑

  • @gayvideos3808
    @gayvideos3808 4 года назад +399

    I'm Cherokee and this language is such a disgusting trainwreck that this was the only conlang critic that made me stop watching.

    • @gayvideos3808
      @gayvideos3808 4 года назад +64

      Ok I stopped at 5:00 but then i resumed. I definitely couldn't watch it all in one sitting

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 года назад +17

      @@gayvideos3808 Me neither.

  • @litete2512
    @litete2512 2 года назад +74

    A conlang made by a repeat killer which is also a pyramid scheme and a poor attempt at incorporating Cherokee into the most established conlang.
    Best conlang of all time.

  • @rayelgatubelo
    @rayelgatubelo 4 года назад +185

    Poliespo sounds like the name of a Pokémon

    • @fanOmry
      @fanOmry 4 года назад +12

      The one good thing that can be said about it..

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 года назад +19

      A metal class pokemon that looks like a rolly-poly bus.

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 года назад +4

      the first time I read the conlang name, I read it in a Polish/Russian/Slavic accent

    • @juliaanimates9765
      @juliaanimates9765 3 года назад +10

      “Poliespo! I choose you!”

    • @icarusmarioFAN
      @icarusmarioFAN 2 года назад +4

      It sounds like a bootleg evolution for Poliwhirl

  • @enuma-elise
    @enuma-elise Год назад +37

    Update on Waldon’s crimes:
    As of January 3, 2023, Waldon’s conviction and death sentence have been overturned. The justification is that Waldon was not given adequate representation. Despite clearly being mentally unwell, Waldon was allowed to defend himself in court, and appeared not to understand the charges brought against him. He is currently awaiting a retrial.

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 23 дня назад

      wait what
      hes NO LONGER CONVICTED?!?!

    • @etruscanetwork
      @etruscanetwork 14 дней назад +1

      Imagine getting him to watch this video

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 14 дней назад

      @@etruscanetwork frfr

  • @misoweli
    @misoweli 4 года назад +99

    **nasal schwa is represented with a 2**

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 года назад +41

      It feels like kay(f)bop(t), but the knowledge that this is in a serious, unironic context makes me sick

  • @deryckchan
    @deryckchan 4 года назад +202

    Let the affixes built to sc--
    Nevermind, this is utterly impenetrable. Thanks jan misali for introducing us to a conlang that we shouldn't bother learning anymore about.

  • @AdrianHereToHelp
    @AdrianHereToHelp 2 года назад +80

    The fact that he decided it was very important to use the Cherokee word for peace after committing multiple literal murders...

    • @40watt53
      @40watt53 11 дней назад

      its okay guys!! hes nice now!

  • @masicbemester
    @masicbemester 3 года назад +44

    1:46 on death row for violent crimes and of course, for Poliespo, which is the most heinous crime in existence.

    • @camwoodstock
      @camwoodstock 3 года назад +14

      Honestly, if I was a lawyer, and the list of things my client did was "make Poliespo", I'd probably just have him turned in immediately.

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 2 года назад +10

      "Your honor, in light of the circumstances, I am entering a plea of "Super Guilty" on behalf of my client, with hopes of finding a sentence greater than capital punishment."

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 года назад +1

      @@camwoodstock If I was the executioner, I would make sure that his death is as slow, painful and drawn out as possible.

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange Год назад

      @@youmukonpaku3168
      “Myself and the jury will be killing ourselves shortly. You’re welcome to join in, your Honour.”

    • @Mordecrox
      @Mordecrox 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@youmukonpaku3168"your honor, Poliespo."
      *bam* DEATH

  • @robdoghd
    @robdoghd 4 года назад +98

    "episode thirty-one" gave me whiplash it's like feel old yet conlang critic premiered 45 years ago today

    • @robdoghd
      @robdoghd 4 года назад +13

      also 1:25 screams pyramid scheme no?

  • @kittykat5090
    @kittykat5090 4 года назад +307

    this conlang, like the creator, is an absolute mess

    • @kittykat5090
      @kittykat5090 2 года назад +2

      totally forgot i commented this and holy crap this got so many likes

    • @etruscanetwork
      @etruscanetwork Год назад

      ​@@kittykat5090 lol

  • @2Cerealbox
    @2Cerealbox 4 года назад +116

    To be fair, this is probably how I would entertain myself in prison, too.

    • @recurse
      @recurse 4 года назад +24

      Attempting to get rich by creating the worst conlang/pyramid scheme ever made?

    • @IM2awsme
      @IM2awsme 4 года назад +15

      Sounds pretty solid to me. Pyramid schemes are all about attracting stupid people who want to prove their smart. It's a very sociopathic profession. Great way to pass the time, imagination getting a letter every couple of days full of money, and with a slight grin you send them back a thank you card and a couple of pamphlets to spread the word. Maybe even a membership certificate to hang on the wall to show their guests how involved they are.

  • @KoBo33451
    @KoBo33451 4 года назад +225

    Oh, wow. This...I mean...how does this even happen? How does something like this even see the light of day?
    I didn't know conlangs could get that bad, and I've seen a lot of them. Hell, I've MADE a lot of them.
    Just, wow.

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 4 года назад +13

      Perhaps this person was... overconfident...?

    • @verdakorako4599
      @verdakorako4599 4 года назад +12

      Esperantists sometimes make esperanto derived con-langs for fun and most are crap and never intended to see the the light of day.

    • @KoBo33451
      @KoBo33451 3 года назад +2

      @@verdakorako4599 I'm not saying I've never done similar things like, for example, taken the correlative chart and dropped it into my conlang; I'm just saying that I've made less of a mess doing it.
      Oh well. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @memelordmarcus
    @memelordmarcus 4 года назад +43

    The distance from poliespo below vötgil is near the same size as the distance from vötgil below toki pona.

  • @jasmijnisme
    @jasmijnisme 4 года назад +70

    > there are dozens of amateur creations worse than Vötgil, but most of those have never been seen by anyone but their creators
    I feel so attacked right now :P

  • @youtubeaccount6564
    @youtubeaccount6564 4 года назад +131

    Well, Oklahoma Cherokee is tonal and doesn’t write tones using the Cherokee syllabary. so Billy Ray was at least doing something similar to Cherokee.

    • @youtubeaccount6564
      @youtubeaccount6564 4 года назад +61

      Oh yeah (I’m commenting as I watch) the use of the suffix -tsu (pronounced more like chu) as a question marker is wild as fuck because that is the suffix used most often to describe rhetorical questions. The most common interrogative suffix is -s, although it still kind of works???
      Another wild as fuck thing: the closest approximation to a Cherokee definite article is literally na. The use of a suffixed article was totally constructed, it’s not even common across continental American native languages.

  • @AuntBibby
    @AuntBibby 4 года назад +254

    okay but what if you made a conlang where every word was a dirty word from an already existing naturally-evolved language

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 4 года назад +76

      That would be hilarious and wildly NSFW.

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus 4 года назад +76

      That's just Northern-Norwegian.
      (This joke is for you, the one Norwegian person who stumble upon this comment.)

    • @muteto2686
      @muteto2686 3 года назад +32

      And also where all the word's meanings are either exactly the opposite of or completely unrelated to their curse word origins

    • @48917032
      @48917032 3 года назад +34

      Weeelll... the Hyperion trilogy has a character who temporarily loses nearly his entire vocabulary from a stroke...except for a few dirty words. So he has to communicate entirely by swearing for some time.

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly 3 года назад +7

      @@48917032 Holy shit, that sounds cool af

  • @swaree
    @swaree 4 года назад +318

    Last time I was this early, Mitch was roasting vötgil
    Edit: oh so apparently this is worse than vötgil

  • @ursulakushner6760
    @ursulakushner6760 3 года назад +39

    Oh yes, “gdz” is definitely a great consonant for a language that wants to be quick to communicate in!

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 года назад +7

      In all seriousness though, "kts" might be the building up of pressure at both the velum and teeth, then releasing at the same time to form a "kt" plosive. You then turn it into an affricate, and same for "gdz"

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 года назад +1

      lol

  • @1papaya2papaya
    @1papaya2papaya 4 года назад +87

    What if poliepso was intentionally made as a form of torture?

  • @MegaDrvo
    @MegaDrvo 4 года назад +33

    you could make a perfect ARG / spooky number station by just looping every time jan voices out the letters in a conlang.

    • @Zawmbbeh
      @Zawmbbeh Год назад +5

      or you could make a radio drama where some weird green slob thwacks onto the floor and in jan Misali’s great disgust is the pronunciation of the epsilon letter

  • @g4_61
    @g4_61 3 года назад +32

    Labio-labial consonants aren’t real; they can’t hurt you.
    Labio-labial consonants:

    • @davinchristino
      @davinchristino Год назад +7

      Can't wait for alveo-alveolar and trilabial consonants

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад +7

      Now I am thinking of phonemes that can only be produced whilst performing cunnilingus!

    • @MM-eq1mr
      @MM-eq1mr 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@DrWhomhalf the conlang community couldn't make them by default

  • @NXTangl
    @NXTangl 4 года назад +135

    Having an "emphatically ungendered" noun form would rock for conlangs designed with nonbinary identities in mind, and you would indeed mostly use those forms for humans.
    I doubt that's what the guy had in mind, though.

    •  2 года назад +1

      Turkish doesn't have grammatical gender.

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify Год назад +2

      @ Having an "emphatically ungendered" gender is not quite the same as no gender/noun class system

  • @plantelo
    @plantelo 3 года назад +28

    "I literally cannot imagine how a conlang could be hypothetically worse than this" sounds like hyperbole out of context. With context...

  • @msbmeseb
    @msbmeseb 4 года назад +31

    bruh imagine being hyped about a new conlang critic video and it being the conlang version of a personified cheap-o esperanto having a stroke.

  • @andrew-ub4ku
    @andrew-ub4ku 4 года назад +18

    11:07 it is amazing that "kat2l" is a thing that exists in a language, even though that language is this one, the fact that there is a chart about language with a box dedicated to "kat2l" is awesome.

  • @__a_4444
    @__a_4444 4 года назад +46

    HE'S BACK
    Last year I watched your entire videography at approximately 3am for about a week and a half straight.
    I proudly continue that tradition now

  • @julester
    @julester 4 года назад +41

    it was great to be a part of such a cool video! dreams of our generation in poliespo when

  • @blunije
    @blunije 4 года назад +16

    You know, Poliespo is good to know OF. It shows me no matter what I do, it's easily still better than an official conlang. Probably the best thing I've done is changing English orthography, which isn't even a conlang, just a fix of what's already there. So this makes me feel good!

  • @Big_Man_Enjoyer
    @Big_Man_Enjoyer 4 года назад +55

    “I cannot imagine a conlang worse than PoliEspo”
    Me: *quietly hides my currently shitty conlang in the corner*
    I want to revise it but please don’t go looking for it ;;

    • @ThinkAboutVic
      @ThinkAboutVic 2 года назад +48

      I bet you didn’t use a 2 for the nasal schwa.

  • @purpleisdebeste
    @purpleisdebeste 3 года назад +14

    The mspaint looks like Poliespo has been clawed into wood by a madman

  • @surgeland9084
    @surgeland9084 3 года назад +26

    On a side note, as bad as this conlang is, the creator's conviction is also very controversial with many people calling for it to be overturned. Add in a lot of systemic factors and there is a good chance that whoever committed the killings is still out there. The con-job is real and indefensible, though.

  • @CortexExists
    @CortexExists 4 года назад +62

    You can't just keep uploading on the 31st every month in 2020

    • @noahegler9131
      @noahegler9131 4 года назад +26

      I'm looking foward to the episode he will release on the 31st of February

  • @edsidfug207
    @edsidfug207 4 года назад +66

    Polysynthetic Esperanto, best summary of this messy conlang

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 4 года назад +9

      "Polysynthetic Esperanto" doesn't sound like a terrible premise.

    • @edsidfug207
      @edsidfug207 4 года назад +9

      @@fernandobanda5734 yes it does

    • @elephant3109
      @elephant3109 4 года назад +2

      it was nice to have a polysynthetic esperanto, but this is just awful
      (also, isnt esperanto already polysynthetic?)

  • @razielhamalakh9813
    @razielhamalakh9813 4 года назад +9

    I fully expected Anthony McCarthy to show up and defend Poliespo.

  • @TheSpooniest
    @TheSpooniest 11 месяцев назад +7

    In the interest of keeping information up-to-date, it is perhaps worth noting that Billy Ray Waldon's conviction and death sentence were overturned in January 2023, partly on technicalities in the previous proceedings and partly because of his own "delusional" self-representation in court. He is currently awaiting a new trial. This does nothing to inspire confidence in Poliespo itself, of course, but the story still isn't over.

  • @annalee2051
    @annalee2051 4 года назад +134

    Review the Minecraft enchantment table language next

    • @SunroseStudios
      @SunroseStudios 4 года назад +16

      not a language

    • @totallynotjeff7748
      @totallynotjeff7748 4 года назад +27

      @@SunroseStudios prove it.

    • @annalee2051
      @annalee2051 4 года назад +21

      @@SunroseStudios lies

    • @memelordmarcus
      @memelordmarcus 4 года назад +5

      @@SunroseStudios woooooooooooooooooosh

    • @memelordmarcus
      @memelordmarcus 4 года назад +4

      @@reidmartin6209 people need to learn when they don't get the joke, so no.

  • @calculovo4219
    @calculovo4219 3 года назад +11

    Hey, so i wanted to find this video, but i forgot the name, so i google "that one language made by a murderer conlang critic"
    This was the second result
    The first result was zeze

  • @ja-vishaara
    @ja-vishaara 3 года назад +7

    I like how they publish their work in Esperanto so that, when Poliespo fails to bring your point across, you can just fall back on Esperanto.

  • @debblez
    @debblez 3 года назад +8

    “The inventor went on his murder spree before making the language”
    *5 seconds later*
    gqbwhdvznckrbtpt

  • @Pandadude-eg9li
    @Pandadude-eg9li 2 года назад +16

    I wish the guy who made Thandian still had the document so you could review it.

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 2 года назад +5

      Biblaridion

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 года назад +1

      @@Thomaas551 Submit it to Conlang Critic, please!

    • @CompactStar
      @CompactStar Год назад +4

      Biblaridion once joked that Conlang Critic would do it for episode 99

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 Год назад +1

      It is better bc atleast thandian wasn’t an auxlang

    • @Designed1
      @Designed1 5 месяцев назад +1

      thandian doesn't use the letter x or the number 2 as a vowel so it's already better

  • @IchisePoland
    @IchisePoland 4 года назад +13

    Poliespo is literally The Room of conlanging.

    • @bongle3726
      @bongle3726 3 года назад +6

      Votgil is the room and Poliespo is a snuff film

  • @ataraxia7439
    @ataraxia7439 2 года назад +8

    I like the idea of a conlang that serves as a stepping stone towards more endangered languages, idk if it would just be easier to bite the bullet and learn the languages themselves though.

  • @dorktriogamer2865
    @dorktriogamer2865 Год назад +6

    Violence warning
    "I feel it necessary to mention something so violence warning". What could possibly be that bad, is it such a bad language it hurt somebody? "The creator is on death row for violent crimes". EXFUCKING CUSE ME. "Including three murders" HEY THAT SENTENCE COULDVE STOPPED AT THE FIRST STATEMENT FROM 1 TO 100 TO 200 HOLY SHIT.

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 года назад +15

    (6:30) A diacritical mark over a miniscule letter with an ascender is something I rarely find pleasing. Neither does other people either because miniscule Ť is ť, looks like an apostrophe, but isn't. But I do prefer diacritics over digraphs, that is I like š/ś/ş over sh.

  • @dimethylhydra4095
    @dimethylhydra4095 4 года назад +12

    there's a bit of irony to one of the only borrowed roots meaning "peace"

  • @tungstencarbide4713
    @tungstencarbide4713 2 года назад +7

    I think "pwtro" has the same energy has "humxn"

  • @lyricjones555
    @lyricjones555 4 года назад +8

    dude you're the only channel I'll watch as soon as a video is put out I LOVE this series thank you for what you do

  • @seraaron
    @seraaron 4 года назад +8

    At 8:22 to be fair, some Arabic speakers use numbers to transliterate too:
    2 - ء
    3 - ع
    5 - خ
    6 - ط
    7 - ح
    8 - ق
    (e.g. Bidde aru7 3lsou8 hal2, bidik teeji ma3i? = بدي أروح على السوق هلا, بدك تيجي معي؟)
    Admittedly it's clsr to a txt speech simulacrum frm the early 2000's, but still, it's functional; and as long as you separate your actual numbers with spaces between words then it's pretty contextually clear which are meant to be read as letters and which should be read as numbers. That said, this is faaar more sophisticated than Poliespo's singular number replacement. Poliespo really does seem like the creator just threw everything into this language. Reminds me of the Biblaridion video about 'How not to make a language'.

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 года назад +7

      that's in the interest of approximating another script in an ascii compatible way. using because it looks like a nose isn't that.

  • @Oi-fo1wt
    @Oi-fo1wt 4 года назад +31

    Vötgil is to Poliespo as the star wars prequels are to the Disney movies

    • @GlaceonStudios
      @GlaceonStudios 4 года назад +4

      Disney's movies are fine, except for TRoS. Just terrible.

    • @sarcomeresarecool
      @sarcomeresarecool 4 года назад +8

      Hey, at the very least you have to agree that the Disney movies did do what they were meant to, i.e. make Disney money. Poliespo's goal accomplishment, on the other hand...

  • @gryphonavocatio
    @gryphonavocatio 4 года назад +10

    I've watched a few of these videos as I've been getting back into conlanging, and my biggest suggestion is that you should pronounce the consonants in your consonant charts *between* vowels. It makes it easier to hear the consonants.....and it helps when somebody seems to think that nasalized preaspiration is a good thing.

  • @OmnipotentEntity
    @OmnipotentEntity 3 года назад +15

    For the record, the only way I know of to typeset the overlapping letters in a modern context is to use latex, the commands "v\makebox[-5pt]{t}" seems to function correctly for the eth, and "p\makebox[-8pt]{w}" for the weird ass pw sound. They do look absolutely horrible.

  • @quaternaryyy
    @quaternaryyy 4 года назад +6

    thanks for all the work put in to captions 😀
    im not hard of hearing but it really helps me to read along !!

  • @Biospark88
    @Biospark88 4 года назад +12

    So you're telling me someone made Malbolge as an auxlang? I'm a bit excited.

  • @official-obama
    @official-obama 2 года назад +3

    oh, i had a scrapped conlang
    it had stroke order, it had like 4 basic shapes, simply just to chisel in with a 2-sided tool. it was a plus side, and a square side, and to make the p and r shapes, you had to use the edge of the plus side. it had the h in hue, and the vowels somehow, in my 5yo brain, were yelling faces, the schwa was somehow on a table, and the w symbol was two x shapes next to eachother, because it made a w shape. i also had regular words, like ho, 2 cross shapes on top of eachother, to make a HOle shape. it also meant santa. why? i have no idea. i didn't make any grammar whatsoever, before i went "this is dumb" and scrapped it.

  • @alsy6813
    @alsy6813 3 года назад +6

    It reminded me about the first writing system I tried to create in the 4th grade.
    I was trying to be original as hell, so I decided to make a box, add in some lines in there, choose a few lines for each letter (of my native Russian language) and call it a new language. Different letters could be written with almost the same lines, and it was impossible to say in which order the letters were or what they were at all.
    I don't remember it well, but I could have a letter "|_" m, "_|" s and "|_|" a, and then get a word "|_|" and wonder, was it just "a"? Maybe "sa"? "As"? "Mas"? Maybe, there were a couple of as? It could even be something like "masam"! I never know!
    And I knew that I was not able to read this thing, what was my explanation? "People who knew the language would just remember the way each word look and read them easily". And I was so proud of this clever invention!
    So, yeah. I don't know about a whole language, but I am just sure that I am a creator of one of the worst writing systems
    (He used 2 as a letter, i placed ь in the box because I had no more ideas of how to write letters, I ran out of lines. It was placed in the right upper corner. No other letters had a similar shape. I remember it so damn well.
    And oh, you know what this letter do in Russian? It indicates that the consonants before it is palatalized. It played the same role in script. Except, there was no way to say which letter goes before ь, so in a word with this sign one or more letters was meant to be read soft)

  • @SsVoyage1892
    @SsVoyage1892 2 года назад +2

    poliespo literally sounds like a medicine with a 2 minute long commercial listing all the consequences of taking poliespo

  • @alexschott9567
    @alexschott9567 4 года назад +20

    The scan being slanted certainly doesn't help with the ugliness of the text

  • @b_atanassov
    @b_atanassov 2 года назад +7

    All things considered, the only thing I like in this language is the word banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx.

  • @yojot3pi
    @yojot3pi 4 года назад +25

    When I saw the name, I thought it was a western Germanic lang designed to outsmart the police. Lol I like argots and anti-languages too much

    • @melvinshaw7574
      @melvinshaw7574 4 года назад +3

      Polari band rise!

    • @ArmyMan3241
      @ArmyMan3241 4 года назад +4

      I thought it's something like that or was some kind of language to out smart and piss off cops. especially when they don't know what some kid on crack is say twerking down the block yelling as loud as possible to piss off the neighborhood at 1 in the morning.

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 года назад

      Anti-language?

  • @oh_tassos
    @oh_tassos 4 года назад +8

    w as a vowel works alright, its done in welsh and in greeklish (greek with the latin alphabet, as perceived by the younger generation)

  • @aspen_the_great
    @aspen_the_great 4 года назад +22

    I see conlang critic, I click

  • @WatermelonEnthusiast9
    @WatermelonEnthusiast9 3 года назад +5

    11:25 you HAVE TO have the words for mom and dad be mama and papa or some sort
    No child will intuitivly know patrino, but all will know mama

  • @memelordmarcus
    @memelordmarcus 4 года назад +14

    I never thought I'd see the day something would be worse than votgil.

  • @l3ftward
    @l3ftward Год назад +3

    i was about to fall asleep and then i heard
    "he is on death row for violent crimes"
    way to wake me up

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff 4 года назад +5

    Nasal pre-aspiration is actually something that exists in my variety of Spanish. I’ve actually found myself doing it and was like wtf??? In many Spanish dialects coda /s/ gets debuccalized into a sort of /h/, and in my variety (Rioplatense) it occurs pretty much only before consonants. But some Spanish words have an /nsC/ consonant cluster in them, like “instrumento”. In these cases we sometimes aspirate the /s/ but keep the nasality of the /n/ and have a pre-aspirated /t/.

  • @tylerthelen485
    @tylerthelen485 4 года назад +5

    I think my 1st Conlang might have been worse than Poliespo. It was literally just English with different vocabulary and an absurd amount of diacritics.

  • @ThanksEtc
    @ThanksEtc 4 года назад +1

    new conlang to rip into on my birthday? thank u misali

  • @lakeswirl6985
    @lakeswirl6985 Год назад +1

    i don’t know much about linguistics or conlanging but i’m so tickled by this absolute trainwreck of a language. life is so beautiful

  • @4eyedphatguys
    @4eyedphatguys 4 года назад +7

    You should try to set up an interview with Sequoyah to get all the missing details and explanations of the language! That would probably be really interesting!

  • @adventuresintheculinarywil3296
    @adventuresintheculinarywil3296 Год назад +4

    Polio + Esperanto = the blissful realm where baby boomers ascend after death.

  • @Mr.Nichan
    @Mr.Nichan 4 года назад +13

    10:36
    That's not even shorter.

  • @glntv5217
    @glntv5217 2 года назад

    Every half a year a video of this guy gets recd to me and its always fascinating

  • @meryldoll9452
    @meryldoll9452 3 года назад +7

    Is that "Dreams of our Generation" in Toki Pona? I love it