same for me too.. just bcos of those fugly headlights.. even though they finally got rid of those now for this 1300, i'll never get a GS just bcos they kept it so long.. too little too late.. many other better choices.
@@PLo312 I went from a Gixxer thou, to a Triumph Tiger, to a FatBoy, to a KTM 1290S, finally to a '23 model GS Rallye and it was the best decision I've made. The previous model is a fantastic bike. If you're still in the track day racer poser phase then I understand the attitude. When that wears off, you'll be surprised what you buy. I know, I was there once.
@@bensmith7536meh, it’s not a matter of being a trackday racer poser, some of us just have fun riding a more comunicative and fun bike. The GS is quite disconnected feeling.
I admire BMW's commitment to R&D. The Japanese manufacturers used to be the gold-standard for this but I just don't see it in them anymore. Lots of the tech is way above my head: I use hardly any of it on my R1250RT despite it being fully-loaded, but I like the fact that the company wants to be at the cutting edge. Nice, clear explanation. Thanks.
@@luisdetomaso867 I've had repeated electrical issue with my 2019 R1250RT and had it at the dealer four times and it was never resolved so recently traded it and would not buy another BMW. My 2011 R1200R was bullet proof. More tech is not better.
Spoken like a BMW owner. 😂 I’ve owned a GS, put 55k miles on one…..and it’s a fine bike until the issues of its over-engineering rear their heads. At that point, Bring My Wallet becomes the reality. Say all you want about the Japanese brands but almost all of them don’t change an oil filter design every couple years for no reason, have major mechanical sensitivity that need “tuning”, or “adjusting” or parts that cost the moon for simple fixes or normal maintenance. 🤷🏻♂️✌️
@@Pcfly I had an R1200R for seven years with no issues - loved it but too cold in winter so I swapped to an R1250RT in 2019. No issues with that either. I ride all year and can do London and back (460 miles) in a day. Where is the FJR? The GTR? Killed off because their manufacturers couldn't be bothered to design their way around the enviro regs - PATHETIC! Where is the Trophy? I should also add that BMW has the greatest commitment to shaft-drive saving owners money and time on chain & sprocket sets. Honda 1100 tourer and KTM 1290 with chain drive? PATHETIC!
The best review I've seen so far. Very even-handed. I bought my first GS (R1150GS) in 2001 and have ridden it a lot both touring and off-road. The newer 1200 and 1250 versions did not inspire me due to their bulk and weight. As I have aged, my ability to handle a heavy bike has diminished. I rented a 2021 1250 in Spain and rode from Barcelona to San Sebastian up the Costa Brava and through the Pyrenees Mountains and back. I enjoyed the new features, including the riding modes, better shifting, and power increase over my old oil head. However, I found myself wishing the bike was a bit lighter and more nimble. The new 1300 seems to meet my needs in the redesign to be smaller, lighter and more powerful. It may finally be time to upgrade!
Is the 1300 REALLY any lighter? Spec wise yes but they apparently removed items that if added back would leave the weight the same? Meaning you could strip those same items OFF the 1250 and have the same weight? Seat height is the same? what is "smaller" now? Yes all new design but WHERE is it more compact other than slimmer at tank/knees? Guess I have to ride one ....which right now is impossible
Agreed with other comments (I just picked up my GS13 Trophy yesterday). Without the “pro” suspension, but with case/head protection, skid plate, and center stand even BMW state mine weighs 550lbs wet. It is noticeably less bulky in the front though. Check it out, but watch the options if weight is a concern. And make sure you get those forged wheels 🤘🏼
A big change from BMW towards the market of people who always wanted a GS but feel intimidated by its size. It’s a bold move with the new design and a bit like marmite but whether you like it or not, so far from all the reviews I’ve seen from various motorcycle journalists it looks much better, easier to ride and manoeuvre and it will sell! Thanks Neeves and MCN team for the review and video, well done you all! 👍👍
BMW really is on a roll with their motorbikes these days. Their S1000s, naked, touring bikes… even the baby gs310 etc. They’re really all so good right now!
i've ridden most of the BMW range in the last years and i have to agree =) I even found the little 310r lots of fun! Just got the R1250 earlier this year and couldn't be happier =) ruclips.net/video/WgXo1Qv_v0U/видео.html
MCM always present the facts in a non-Bias way. Hats off to you guys for a informative release. As a long term GS owner , i like some of the Upgrades, But it reinforces that a GS is never the best at any one thing. But what it does well is cover a wide range of riding scenarios from touring to off Road adventures with min fuss.
Pretty much any adventure bike does the same things and good at everything that the GS is good at, the only way you want this bike is brand loyalty but that's it, The rest of the competition do the job just as well.
Adventure bikes aren't my cup of tea after owning a few different models, but the way Neevsey presents this I can at least appreciate what BMW have done with the new GS. Far more informative and realistic than the cringeworthy gushing I'm seeing in 'influencer' videos. This is the sort of balanced review we deserve to watch.
Thanks!!!! IMO this new R13GS is the "overall" GOLD STANDARD of adventure bikes. Even though I do not have the budget for it, it's still the gold standard (fortunately at 72 years old there are various middleweights that will get the job done for me, but I'll always be envious/ greatly appreciate BMW's R13GS)
I'm not a GS kinda guy. But,,, when BMW does the makeover to the RS I'll do cart wheels to my local BMW dealer with cash in hand. Been enjoying my F900XR as a sport tourer daily and it's good. My Honda NT1100 is my primary comfort long distance tourer and it's good, but a R1300RS looks to be my ultimate objective handling the duties of both bikes I have now.
I appreciate that you didn't simply gush over the bike, as I've seen in several other reviews - realism is a good thing. The headlight: I'm not much for the looks ... I wonder how well it lights the road? 👍
Good question. Maybe I can overlook the funny starfish if the illumination/cornering feature is improved, but somehow I doubt it, just too small a light fixture to have improved I'm guessing. It did save a bit of weight though. And perhaps due to the small size and angle a headlight protector is no longer required.
Compared to other reviews, I do appreciate this one on the GS. As others have mentioned, that headlight…..ugh🫣 I’m at a loss for words, then theres the forehead bump for the radar tech…..just turns my stomach. Maybe it will look better in person. 😵💫🫤😶
If you not touring off-road, even after testing new GS, multistrada for me way to go and price is almost the same. Owned few GSes before, but Ducati is just next level.
This is an outstanding first review, Michael. Great job. I rode a 2023 GS through Spain last year and have been eyeing the 2024. Might be my first $30K motorcycle.
Getting one next year. Being 6.3 feet I prefer to wait for the GSA version. Otherwise I'm going for the 1250 GSA, especially that I like the old design much more.
It looks like an amazing achievement for the product development team. Love how they have focused on making the bike better, lighter but not that different apart from the looks.
Thank you Michael... I always get the straight story when you sir tell it. Planning on doing multi state touring in the future. I would pick the Trophy model.
Iv got one it's a fabulous bike to ride I never had a demo ride I just bought it I picked it up last Saturday jumped on it and did 200 miles on it and I can't fault it ,my other bike is a 2023 m1000rr competition and I can tell you the gs is a perfect bike for anyone
The thing with seat height issues is not only about how tall you are, it’s about your inside leg measurement: some people are longer in the body and shorter in the leg, others have longer legs and shorter bodies.
Just let there be a GS with a 17" front tire and I'll ride my Musltistrada Pikes Peak over to the BMW dealer next spring. No gravel or dirt in my life anymore. Had the 19/21" adventures and all done with gravel/dirt.
I am the owner of a BMW F800GS, I am considering to get a new bigger bike, R1300GS is simply not for me... I am more biased to the old 1200´s or 1250... The price of a new 1250 is simply a lot of money that I am not sure if I am willing to spend (cost of the bike, luggage, insurance...), so I have started to look and consider an Africa Twin 2023 -- 1100cc maybe the Adventure Sports. Anyway seems that BMW wants to move into that direction making the 1300GS narrower...
Thanks once more MCM. Congrats to BMW, a lot of effort in developing the new GS even If the 1250 has been a success. I always thought of my 1250 that I just wanted the bike to be lighter, but I see there is much more.
Well, I just did the test ride today. Power was good, but shifting at least on the test bike was an issue, causing the bike to jump occasionally with shifting. The test bike, with all extras, felt really heavy! Definately heavier than expected. The question is, is this the right approach and for who? This bike in my opinion, has less presence, less comfort, less room for pillion and smaller paniers. The suspension in sport mode was jumpy on B roads, in road mode was better. I really missed the plush ride and the feeling of the 1250 gs though, the 1300gs feels more like a sport tourer, not like an adventure bike.
Great review 👍 I'm currently on the 3rd day of riding a loan bike and I'm really impressed with the power, handling and stopping ability. My R1250 Raylle is more comfortable and there is.more room when riding pillion. For anyone interested, the biggest improvement for is the stability and handling riding two up, with is far superior to my R1250 😊👍
I look forward to an owners review after a few months. Real life review. I want to see things like can you fit metal boxes to it or is it aimed at only bmw plastic moulded cases with electronic locks. Why no backlit switch gear. Yes base price is attractive but when you add up all the extras you get on other adventure bikes as standard your pushing 20k.
THIRD comment from my own personal fan-club. At this rate I'll need a secretary to answer your comments...then again not really as your comments have no substance...just the usual "I love my GS" shite.@@razorwired130
BMW certainly prices that bike as it's at least one of the best in the market. Given history of the bike, that should be as close to reality as we can get (with some contenders putting pressure on it of course). Thanks for the video!
Looking forwards to taking it for a test ride, just got back form a 10,000 km trip to the Nordkapp on the R1250. ruclips.net/video/dBTMXSyeaBo/видео.htmlsi=bLNxx6Q6vT12S96N
I have a newish 1250TE with all options Inc the akra but apart from the billet front engine cover which was quite a lot, this looks a bit small and I’m not sure I like the colourways, I prefer my white blue red rallye. I’ll probably get one of these but I hope the looks grow on me. Good review, this geezer knows his bikes, he’s my go to reviewer, best in the business.
Interesting you say about the bouncy suspension, got rid of my 2017 GS after a couple of years and that was one of the reasons, horrible wallow on some roads which myself and my pillion wife really did not like. I can see that the potential for the problems that BMW seems to get with their bikes (I’ve owned 5 Boxers over the years and well over 200k miles) is very high with this bike
Thanks neeves! I’m glad to see they grabbed their scrotum in the looks department a bit like Ducati did with the 999. It’s a great looking bike and a good departure from the overly bulky older model.
Makes me more interested in what the rest of the 1300 family will look like. Though i still want a smaller k series model again, like an 800 triple maybe. Ugh.
Judging from the number of used GS's with barely any mileage you see for sale I suspect the only 'off-roading' the majority do is bumping up the kerb at their local Sainsbury's.....
Considering most GS riders are old guys at pension that ride like grannies, of course. The market for GS is the same as the market for Harley, middle/old age middle class men.
Good vid. This is a milestone motorcycle not only for BMw but for the riding world. I can't wait until the new RS and RT versions come along with the new ADV model. MMMMMMMMM!
Human nature being what it is, everyone will want to ditch their 1250’s for this.. a good time to buy a 1250 ? Off road ability is mostly irrelevant, most of these bikes never go off road. Good review. Thank you.
It’s certainly the bike of the moment here in the Uk but I am expecting the Honda AT adventure sports to give the BMW 1300 some competition next year. With a reduced front wheel size and a lower centre of gravity for improved road use, plus increased torque the AT will be highly anticipated. It’s interesting that Honda feel increased torque rather than outright HP is the way to go but as a tourer it should be spot on.
Brilliant review. In the real word these bikes will be ridden 95% on road by the masses. A lot of us ride 2 up. I have a 2 year old GSA with 27k on it and my wife was on it for 23k. Could we see a future review of all the adventure bikes on road and have a pillion plus luggage included and hear what the pillion has to say as well. We’re free anytime you need us 😂
We too ride two up and found the GS to be one of the most comfortable, we took delivery of our 1250 earlier this year and put 22k fun kilometers on it! Was hoping for heated pillion grips lol here's our channel if you are interested =) ruclips.net/video/WgXo1Qv_v0U/видео.html
@@SeanandEmily I’ve been following you two. I’m thinking of setting up a channel to share our experience and how I go about planning a trip. We’re doing Europe and USA next year. Keep the videos rolling in 👍
Nice review, but i miss to hear how the GS1300 handles when it comes to front tire noise, that leads directly to your head when driving more than 45 km/h speed I absolutely dislike the GS 1250 due to this road tire noise
Yeah the 1150 is a great bike, i always turn my head when i see one! our R1200 Air cooled always puts a smile on my face =) ruclips.net/video/Og4GEsjWCLw/видео.htmlsi=9kPxS5_aYmWL_yx1
Me, a normal guy tested this motorcycle. Yes, it's gadget whise better and more nimble. The character of it is like a supermotard with off road tyres, which I personally don't like. I still prefer the pervious GS models and am curious how the new GSA model will end up.
Again, MCN surpasses other road tests, with informative and precise review. Looking at buying one and took one for a ride. I like the ride height adjustability for this 175cm hobbit!
nice review...look forward to seeing them all lined up with their 'baby gro' pilots@ the Channel Tunnel next Spring......seems to me BMW GS is innovating towards what the Japenese have been doing for the last 10yrs with Adv bikes.....next 'innovation' will be the end of the Boxer.
Great video! I just would like to say that I owned a V4S and the handling was poor…the rear shock (however I dialled it in) seemed under sprung. I fitted Road 6 tyres and an Ohlins damper to try to firm it up from its hideous mid corner wallow but I really should not have to do that on a 24K bike! I’m 100 kilos plus kit and ride hard through the corners…I also tested a 1290sas and that had a hideous speed wobble at 130… The telelever set up for me is far superior to that of any other manufacturer.
I always admired the GS for being so unorthodox looking. I eventually bought an BMW S1000r beacause of the naughty unsymetric headlights and fun riding. The new GS is a definite improvement in looks department and if its faster with more torque, well yeeharr. However, being a pauper and only can afford one bike, my KTM sdr 1290 is getting swapped for a Triumph Rocket 3 next year, maybe, if I ever tire of the mental engine
Don't know about that, had over 40 motorcycles, like 10 Honda's, and 15 BMW's, some beta's, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, always go back to the Beemers :) like them. I hear the NC 750 is a wicked good bike if you are a old fart :) Lol greatings from a old Belgian fart. @@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
I dig it. Looks like it went on a major diet and stopped looking like a two wheeled tank. Kinda futuristic now too. Sleek and sexy. Waiting on the 1300rs though.
Nobody will ever take this bike seriously for off road though, that flat engine will make sure of it. Immediately when you look at the bike and you imagine it off road, you also imagine it dropping it on one of its engine heads and that's enough to say nope.
@@fs5866 huh? I'm absolutely sure bret tkacs and big rock moto have done exactly that though. It ain't a ktm but it'll do it. Plus adding 30lbs of crash protection.
@@JelloThatsMellow - EXACTLY and that is what grinds their gears - no matter what the competition does - BMW GS is always the answer. They are just bitter.
As a fan of 19 inch front wheels on my heavy ADVENTURE bikes (rather than the 21 inch I have on all my dedicated DIRT bikes such as enduro/trail/trials bikes) this is the part I don't get, if Triumph (example 2024 900 GT Pro) or any other manufacturer including Ducati and Moto Guzzi, fit a 19 inch wheel on their big adventure bikes, then apparently their products are ENTIRELY a "road focused" ONLY adventure bike and by extension, considered utterly USELESS off -road. However, If BMW fit a 19 inch front wheel on their new 1300 GS, then suddenly " The Best Adventure Bike" in the entire world? Explanations please?
I rode a GS a couple of years ago. Any improvement on that bike would be welcomed. Even so I have read that the gearbox is still “agricultural”. And the clatter from the engine is grating after a while. Only my opinion of course and I know how many people I may have offended by saying this but there are better bikes out there.
Judging by the number of 1250's coming onto the market ("GS 1250 for sale, very low miles, never seen rain/desert/off-road. Only ever ridden to local bike meet/Tesco") plenty have taken the plunge..
El. Preload adjustment is not possible, i find that strange. Also, the difference between soft and hard damping is minimal. On the Multi V4s, the difference between the 5 damping settings is like night and day, and you can adjust preload in 24 different settings, or leave it in auto. That's how el.suspension should be like.
@@mbal4052 The opposite in terms of what, exactly? I have had 5 big GS's (1200 & 1250), my last bike was a 2022 Multi V4s and i have tried the GS 1300.
I’ve owned 12 gs’s Test rode the v4s multi … bought one Tested the 1300 …. Don’t want one 🤷♂️ Great bike but just didn’t pull my heart strings , maybe lost its character , I just don’t know
Within the Option 719 a Tarmac slaying package. Since most will use it for the street. How about a real horn like the rest of the tarmac slaying tourers, and while they’d at it backlit switches for night riding. It look pretty cool too.
I rode my Yamaha Tracer 900 to a test ride on the 1300 GS, I wanted to like it, the result was the Tracer won over, where the Tracer is a pleasure to ride, I found the 1300 more of a chore in comparison.
Never really wanted a GS before…..but this R1300GS has now really got me very interested. I think I need a test ride!
same for me too.. just bcos of those fugly headlights.. even though they finally got rid of those now for this 1300, i'll never get a GS just bcos they kept it so long.. too little too late.. many other better choices.
@@PLo312 I went from a Gixxer thou, to a Triumph Tiger, to a FatBoy, to a KTM 1290S, finally to a '23 model GS Rallye and it was the best decision I've made. The previous model is a fantastic bike. If you're still in the track day racer poser phase then I understand the attitude. When that wears off, you'll be surprised what you buy. I know, I was there once.
@@bensmith7536meh, it’s not a matter of being a trackday racer poser, some of us just have fun riding a more comunicative and fun bike. The GS is quite disconnected feeling.
I admire BMW's commitment to R&D. The Japanese manufacturers used to be the gold-standard for this but I just don't see it in them anymore. Lots of the tech is way above my head: I use hardly any of it on my R1250RT despite it being fully-loaded, but I like the fact that the company wants to be at the cutting edge. Nice, clear explanation. Thanks.
Unfortunately all of that German over-engineering translates into more reliability problems. You'll still have much fewer issues with a Japanese bike
@@luisdetomaso867 I've had repeated electrical issue with my 2019 R1250RT and had it at the dealer four times and it was never resolved so recently traded it and would not buy another BMW. My 2011 R1200R was bullet proof. More tech is not better.
Price is out of reach for most of us Indians.
Spoken like a BMW owner. 😂 I’ve owned a GS, put 55k miles on one…..and it’s a fine bike until the issues of its over-engineering rear their heads. At that point, Bring My Wallet becomes the reality. Say all you want about the Japanese brands but almost all of them don’t change an oil filter design every couple years for no reason, have major mechanical sensitivity that need “tuning”, or “adjusting” or parts that cost the moon for simple fixes or normal maintenance. 🤷🏻♂️✌️
@@Pcfly I had an R1200R for seven years with no issues - loved it but too cold in winter so I swapped to an R1250RT in 2019. No issues with that either. I ride all year and can do London and back (460 miles) in a day. Where is the FJR? The GTR? Killed off because their manufacturers couldn't be bothered to design their way around the enviro regs - PATHETIC! Where is the Trophy? I should also add that BMW has the greatest commitment to shaft-drive saving owners money and time on chain & sprocket sets. Honda 1100 tourer and KTM 1290 with chain drive? PATHETIC!
Lighter, more power, more agility - this is always how I wanted the GS I used to have… I better test one. 😝
The best review I've seen so far. Very even-handed. I bought my first GS (R1150GS) in 2001 and have ridden it a lot both touring and off-road. The newer 1200 and 1250 versions did not inspire me due to their bulk and weight. As I have aged, my ability to handle a heavy bike has diminished. I rented a 2021 1250 in Spain and rode from Barcelona to San Sebastian up the Costa Brava and through the Pyrenees Mountains and back. I enjoyed the new features, including the riding modes, better shifting, and power increase over my old oil head. However, I found myself wishing the bike was a bit lighter and more nimble. The new 1300 seems to meet my needs in the redesign to be smaller, lighter and more powerful. It may finally be time to upgrade!
Is the 1300 REALLY any lighter? Spec wise yes but they apparently removed items that if added back would leave the weight the same? Meaning you could strip those same items OFF the 1250 and have the same weight? Seat height is the same? what is "smaller" now? Yes all new design but WHERE is it more compact other than slimmer at tank/knees? Guess I have to ride one ....which right now is impossible
Marginally lighter,until u add full luggage, center stand crash bars, etc.
Agreed with other comments (I just picked up my GS13 Trophy yesterday). Without the “pro” suspension, but with case/head protection, skid plate, and center stand even BMW state mine weighs 550lbs wet. It is noticeably less bulky in the front though. Check it out, but watch the options if weight is a concern. And make sure you get those forged wheels 🤘🏼
A big change from BMW towards the market of people who always wanted a GS but feel intimidated by its size. It’s a bold move with the new design and a bit like marmite but whether you like it or not, so far from all the reviews I’ve seen from various motorcycle journalists it looks much better, easier to ride and manoeuvre and it will sell! Thanks Neeves and MCN team for the review and video, well done you all! 👍👍
BMW really is on a roll with their motorbikes these days.
Their S1000s, naked, touring bikes… even the baby gs310 etc. They’re really all so good right now!
i've ridden most of the BMW range in the last years and i have to agree =) I even found the little 310r lots of fun!
Just got the R1250 earlier this year and couldn't be happier =)
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MCM always present the facts in a non-Bias way. Hats off to you guys for a informative release. As a long term GS owner , i like some of the Upgrades, But it reinforces that a GS is never the best at any one thing. But what it does well is cover a wide range of riding scenarios from touring to off Road adventures with min fuss.
No they didn’t! They just made a BMW commercial! Nothing at all unbiased about this video.
No negative points at all. Very non biased, yeah.
Pretty much any adventure bike does the same things and good at everything that the GS is good at, the only way you want this bike is brand loyalty but that's it,
The rest of the competition do the job just as well.
what a BS
Class review Neeves, you cant beat experience when it talks.
Now that's how you do a review of a new bike!! Well done MCN . .
Adventure bikes aren't my cup of tea after owning a few different models, but the way Neevsey presents this I can at least appreciate what BMW have done with the new GS. Far more informative and realistic than the cringeworthy gushing I'm seeing in 'influencer' videos. This is the sort of balanced review we deserve to watch.
Thanks!!!! IMO this new R13GS is the "overall" GOLD STANDARD of adventure bikes. Even though I do not have the budget for it, it's still the gold standard (fortunately at 72 years old there are various middleweights that will get the job done for me, but I'll always be envious/ greatly appreciate BMW's R13GS)
Why don’t you get it?
I'm not a GS kinda guy. But,,, when BMW does the makeover to the RS I'll do cart wheels to my local BMW dealer with cash in hand. Been enjoying my F900XR as a sport tourer daily and it's good. My Honda NT1100 is my primary comfort long distance tourer and it's good, but a R1300RS looks to be my ultimate objective handling the duties of both bikes I have now.
I appreciate that you didn't simply gush over the bike, as I've seen in several other reviews - realism is a good thing. The headlight: I'm not much for the looks ... I wonder how well it lights the road? 👍
Good question. Maybe I can overlook the funny starfish if the illumination/cornering feature is improved, but somehow I doubt it, just too small a light fixture to have improved I'm guessing. It did save a bit of weight though. And perhaps due to the small size and angle a headlight protector is no longer required.
Seems more geared to making the bike recognisable from front on than anything else, rather like the KTM design. Form over function?
my R1250GSA had the best headlights I've ever had in any vehicle. Extraordinary.
Compared to other reviews, I do appreciate this one on the GS. As others have mentioned, that headlight…..ugh🫣 I’m at a loss for words, then theres the forehead bump for the radar tech…..just turns my stomach. Maybe it will look better in person. 😵💫🫤😶
If you not touring off-road, even after testing new GS, multistrada for me way to go and price is almost the same. Owned few GSes before, but Ducati is just next level.
As always--a superlative, detailed review by the best in the business. Thanks, Neevsy!
This is an outstanding first review, Michael. Great job. I rode a 2023 GS through Spain last year and have been eyeing the 2024. Might be my first $30K motorcycle.
As always a very honest, objective and eloquent description that covers just the correct info that we need to want this motorbike. Thanks
I much prefer this guys reviews to those done by that little guy with the little mouth and the Yorkshire accent.
Getting one next year. Being 6.3 feet I prefer to wait for the GSA version. Otherwise I'm going for the 1250 GSA, especially that I like the old design much more.
same here, don’t really care much for the new design
It looks like an amazing achievement for the product development team. Love how they have focused on making the bike better, lighter but not that different apart from the looks.
Neeves is the man! 🙏 Great review as always!
Great review ! Always a pleasure to watch MCN videos
Thank you Michael... I always get the straight story when you sir tell it. Planning on doing multi state touring in the future. I would pick the Trophy model.
I really enjoyed that. Neevsey wins. Such a good review.
Iv got one it's a fabulous bike to ride I never had a demo ride I just bought it I picked it up last Saturday jumped on it and did 200 miles on it and I can't fault it ,my other bike is a 2023 m1000rr competition and I can tell you the gs is a perfect bike for anyone
Wait for the adventure version.
The thing with seat height issues is not only about how tall you are, it’s about your inside leg measurement: some people are longer in the body and shorter in the leg, others have longer legs and shorter bodies.
Just let there be a GS with a 17" front tire and I'll ride my Musltistrada Pikes Peak over to the BMW dealer next spring. No gravel or dirt in my life anymore. Had the 19/21" adventures and all done with gravel/dirt.
Check s1000xr mate…however 17 inch front on a GS would be 🙌 awesome
Wait for the R1300R the R1250R is an overlooked road bike
I’ve had the S1000XR and I would never go back to a BMW after owning a Ducati MultiStrada Pikes Peak.
@@shockerzevworld5911What sold/un-sold you?
@@shockerzevworld5911I’d never go back to a Ducati, fine for the average Joe but it really doesn’t like hooligan behaviour.
I am the owner of a BMW F800GS, I am considering to get a new bigger bike, R1300GS is simply not for me... I am more biased to the old 1200´s or 1250... The price of a new 1250 is simply a lot of money that I am not sure if I am willing to spend (cost of the bike, luggage, insurance...), so I have started to look and consider an Africa Twin 2023 -- 1100cc maybe the Adventure Sports.
Anyway seems that BMW wants to move into that direction making the 1300GS narrower...
Thanks once more MCM. Congrats to BMW, a lot of effort in developing the new GS even If the 1250 has been a success. I always thought of my 1250 that I just wanted the bike to be lighter, but I see there is much more.
Well, I just did the test ride today. Power was good, but shifting at least on the test bike was an issue, causing the bike to jump occasionally with shifting. The test bike, with all extras, felt really heavy! Definately heavier than expected. The question is, is this the right approach and for who? This bike in my opinion, has less presence, less comfort, less room for pillion and smaller paniers. The suspension in sport mode was jumpy on B roads, in road mode was better. I really missed the plush ride and the feeling of the 1250 gs though, the 1300gs feels more like a sport tourer, not like an adventure bike.
A grown-up review finally, been waiting for that one.
I have one on order. Tripple black. Looking forward to season ‘24
Great review 👍 I'm currently on the 3rd day of riding a loan bike and I'm really impressed with the power, handling and stopping ability. My R1250 Raylle is more comfortable and there is.more room when riding pillion. For anyone interested, the biggest improvement for is the stability and handling riding two up, with is far superior to my R1250 😊👍
Nailed another one Neevesy! Very nice.
I look forward to an owners review after a few months. Real life review. I want to see things like can you fit metal boxes to it or is it aimed at only bmw plastic moulded cases with electronic locks. Why no backlit switch gear. Yes base price is attractive but when you add up all the extras you get on other adventure bikes as standard your pushing 20k.
£20k...for a bike that will rarely go past the local bike meet and Sainsbury's for the vast majority of owners...
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne - what do you ride dude - a real adventure bike - a KLR 650?
THIRD comment from my own personal fan-club. At this rate I'll need a secretary to answer your comments...then again not really as your comments have no substance...just the usual "I love my GS" shite.@@razorwired130
I miss the old headlight
Superb summary, cheers Michael!
Yes,,,, hands down the best adventure bike you can buy !
It's got a beak only a mother could love 😅
I bashed my shin on the engine of the old version. Every time.
I hope the new engine position and layout solve that problem. Looks very promising.
Same here, multistrada solved that 😁
@@Dzinbhudist triumph for me. Best bike I’ve ever owned (to date) but excited to test ride this one.
BMW certainly prices that bike as it's at least one of the best in the market. Given history of the bike, that should be as close to reality as we can get (with some contenders putting pressure on it of course). Thanks for the video!
Looking forwards to taking it for a test ride, just got back form a 10,000 km trip to the Nordkapp on the R1250.
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I have a newish 1250TE with all options Inc the akra but apart from the billet front engine cover which was quite a lot, this looks a bit small and I’m not sure I like the colourways, I prefer my white blue red rallye. I’ll probably get one of these but I hope the looks grow on me. Good review, this geezer knows his bikes, he’s my go to reviewer, best in the business.
Can't wait until I am 68 with a big gut and it will be the perfect bike for me.
Interesting you say about the bouncy suspension, got rid of my 2017 GS after a couple of years and that was one of the reasons, horrible wallow on some roads which myself and my pillion wife really did not like.
I can see that the potential for the problems that
BMW seems to get with their bikes
(I’ve owned 5 Boxers over the years and well over 200k miles) is very high with this bike
Thanks neeves!
I’m glad to see they grabbed their scrotum in the looks department a bit like Ducati did with the 999. It’s a great looking bike and a good departure from the overly bulky older model.
Makes me more interested in what the rest of the 1300 family will look like. Though i still want a smaller k series model again, like an 800 triple maybe. Ugh.
Great reviews! Are you planning on doing one over the r1250rs by any chance?
Excellent review!
One of my bikes is an R1200 RS Sports tourer. I’ve never lusted after a GS, BUT - Now I Do !! (Tramontana in Green please)
GS is ok, but I don't go off road enough to care. The new RT is what I'm really looking forward to.
Judging from the number of used GS's with barely any mileage you see for sale I suspect the only 'off-roading' the majority do is bumping up the kerb at their local Sainsbury's.....
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOneI doubt they go up any curbs
@@Villani_AVgotta watch out for the gravel at the sides of the road though!
Considering most GS riders are old guys at pension that ride like grannies, of course.
The market for GS is the same as the market for Harley, middle/old age middle class men.
Good vid. This is a milestone motorcycle not only for BMw but for the riding world. I can't wait until the new RS and RT versions come along with the new ADV model. MMMMMMMMM!
Human nature being what it is, everyone will want to ditch their 1250’s for this.. a good time to buy a 1250 ? Off road ability is mostly irrelevant, most of these bikes never go off road. Good review. Thank you.
Hahaha! That’s what I am counting on this summer!
If off-road includes "off pavement" then plenty of people using them on gravel, forest and service roads.
It’s certainly the bike of the moment here in the Uk but I am expecting the Honda AT adventure sports to give the BMW 1300 some competition next year. With a reduced front wheel size and a lower centre of gravity for improved road use, plus increased torque the AT will be highly anticipated. It’s interesting that Honda feel increased torque rather than outright HP is the way to go but as a tourer it should be spot on.
Brilliant review. In the real word these bikes will be ridden 95% on road by the masses. A lot of us ride 2 up. I have a 2 year old GSA with 27k on it and my wife was on it for 23k.
Could we see a future review of all the adventure bikes on road and have a pillion plus luggage included and hear what the pillion has to say as well. We’re free anytime you need us 😂
We too ride two up and found the GS to be one of the most comfortable, we took delivery of our 1250 earlier this year and put 22k fun kilometers on it! Was hoping for heated pillion grips lol
here's our channel if you are interested =)
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@@SeanandEmily I’ve been following you two. I’m thinking of setting up a channel to share our experience and how I go about planning a trip. We’re doing Europe and USA next year. Keep the videos rolling in 👍
Thanks for reading out the press release 🙏
Nice review, but i miss to hear how the GS1300 handles when it comes to front tire noise, that leads directly to your head when driving more than 45 km/h speed
I absolutely dislike the GS 1250 due to this road tire noise
I have had 4 different GS’s over the years. My favorite is still the old R 100 GS PD.
It a beauty. Another beast. I think I’m smitten. Can’t wait to see the GSA!
Great review...very thorough & interesting..cheers from New Zealand..
I've had every generation of the GS series... My favorite real bike is still the 1150 with it's "agricultural" feel...!
Yeah the 1150 is a great bike, i always turn my head when i see one!
our R1200 Air cooled always puts a smile on my face =)
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I think it looks awesome. Nicer lines all around, and dig the headlights.
I saw one in the flesh in Shrewsbury town centre on Monday and thought how underwhelming it looked.
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOnesure it wasn’t a mirror you were looking at?
My mistake. I was looking at your boyfriend. @@mbal4052
I wonder, when the fork or rear suspension breaks after 50’ to 100’ km? Will it it cost the same price as the after market value of the bike? 😱
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Me, a normal guy tested this motorcycle. Yes, it's gadget whise better and more nimble. The character of it is like a supermotard with off road tyres, which I personally don't like. I still prefer the pervious GS models and am curious how the new GSA model will end up.
Again, MCN surpasses other road tests, with informative and precise review. Looking at buying one and took one for a ride. I like the ride height adjustability for this 175cm hobbit!
I saw a brand new one barely days after its release. I was underwhelmed. It reminded me of a V-Strom.
Excellent content coverage. I want to see you take it out for a week and let us know what "you" think of it's redesign, Mr. N. Can't wait!
Rally Explorer Tiger is now the GOAT
A superb, informative and thorough review
great review ,many thanks.
nice review...look forward to seeing them all lined up with their 'baby gro' pilots@ the Channel Tunnel next Spring......seems to me BMW GS is innovating towards what the Japenese have been doing for the last 10yrs with Adv bikes.....next 'innovation' will be the end of the Boxer.
So glad they updated that awful old headlight to a beautiful model light. Can’t wait to buy a GSA!
Great video! I just would like to say that I owned a V4S and the handling was poor…the rear shock (however I dialled it in) seemed under sprung. I fitted Road 6 tyres and an Ohlins damper to try to firm it up from its hideous mid corner wallow but I really should not have to do that on a 24K bike! I’m 100 kilos plus kit and ride hard through the corners…I also tested a 1290sas and that had a hideous speed wobble at 130…
The telelever set up for me is far superior to that of any other manufacturer.
Nice one Michael, as always! Any news on the auto box?
I always admired the GS for being so unorthodox looking. I eventually bought an BMW S1000r beacause of the naughty unsymetric headlights and fun riding. The new GS is a definite improvement in looks department and if its faster with more torque, well yeeharr. However, being a pauper and only can afford one bike, my KTM sdr 1290 is getting swapped for a Triumph Rocket 3 next year, maybe, if I ever tire of the mental engine
Like a big NC 750 Honda, like it :) greatings from a gs 1200 bikie .
Give me the NC750X-DCT over the BMW any day.
Don't know about that, had over 40 motorcycles, like 10 Honda's, and 15 BMW's, some beta's, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, always go back to the Beemers :) like them. I hear the NC 750 is a wicked good bike if you are a old fart :) Lol greatings from a old Belgian fart. @@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
This old fart runs a Gen3 Hayabusa...@@stevendegoodmojosmet4034
I haven’t watched any reviews of the GS till Mike’s….on purpose. Nevesey’s review is the only one worth listening to.
I dig it. Looks like it went on a major diet and stopped looking like a two wheeled tank. Kinda futuristic now too. Sleek and sexy.
Waiting on the 1300rs though.
Nobody will ever take this bike seriously for off road though, that flat engine will make sure of it.
Immediately when you look at the bike and you imagine it off road, you also imagine it dropping it on one of its engine heads and that's enough to say nope.
@@fs5866 huh? I'm absolutely sure bret tkacs and big rock moto have done exactly that though. It ain't a ktm but it'll do it. Plus adding 30lbs of crash protection.
Ye literally any other adventure bike will do that same job also, but without worrying about crashing in the engine@@JelloThatsMellow
@@fs5866 lol okay. In the end it's still the top selling adv bike. Whether for off road or not.
@@JelloThatsMellow - EXACTLY and that is what grinds their gears - no matter what the competition does - BMW GS is always the answer. They are just bitter.
Best Adventure Motorbike ever made its Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally, and its the best motorbike ever made.
As a fan of 19 inch front wheels on my heavy ADVENTURE bikes (rather than the 21 inch I have on all my dedicated DIRT bikes such as enduro/trail/trials bikes) this is the part I don't get, if Triumph (example 2024 900 GT Pro) or any other manufacturer including Ducati and Moto Guzzi, fit a 19 inch wheel on their big adventure bikes, then apparently their products are ENTIRELY a "road focused" ONLY adventure bike and by extension, considered utterly USELESS off -road. However, If BMW fit a 19 inch front wheel on their new 1300 GS, then suddenly " The Best Adventure Bike" in the entire world? Explanations please?
I can maintain and service my old R1150GSA regularly for the next 30 years for the price of the new 1300.
Definitely looking to taking a test ride on it
It's just as oversized as it's ever been in my opinion. People underestimate the F750/850 GS. More maneuverable and cheaper to buy, own and use.
Yep, give me the middleweight over its big brother every day of the week....
Same weight - less motor.
I rode a GS a couple of years ago. Any improvement on that bike would be welcomed. Even so I have read that the gearbox is still “agricultural”. And the clatter from the engine is grating after a while. Only my opinion of course and I know how many people I may have offended by saying this but there are better bikes out there.
How about you give us your opinion after you've actually ridden one. Hearsay ("I read") is usless
@@micmacinact my opinion means that. If you are a fan of the bike that’s fine.
I curious how many 1250 gs owners are planing on buying one? And how many find the appearance too disgusting and will stay with their 1250/1200
I am sticking with my 1250 GSA.
Keeping my 1250GSA as well. Will see what that updated model holds in a year or so
Judging by the number of 1250's coming onto the market ("GS 1250 for sale, very low miles, never seen rain/desert/off-road. Only ever ridden to local bike meet/Tesco") plenty have taken the plunge..
Now it’s not as good as the adventure
Nice. Does it have CarPlay yet?
Haven't heard a review where anyone seemed excited or said it was fun
It's still a good un, says our tester Ernie bore
El. Preload adjustment is not possible, i find that strange.
Also, the difference between soft and hard damping is minimal.
On the Multi V4s, the difference between the 5 damping settings is like night and day, and you can adjust preload in 24 different settings, or leave it in auto.
That's how el.suspension should be like.
Chris from bike world said the opposite, I’ll take his word over yours 😉
@@mbal4052 The opposite in terms of what, exactly?
I have had 5 big GS's (1200 & 1250), my last bike was a 2022 Multi V4s and i have tried the GS 1300.
good motorcycle tour
Never been a gs fanboy, but this gen seems less "bmw" but much better. Im curious to see the Rt 1300
Anyone know when the adventure bigger tank version will arrive?
I’ve owned 12 gs’s
Test rode the v4s multi … bought one
Tested the 1300 …. Don’t want one 🤷♂️
Great bike but just didn’t pull my heart strings , maybe lost its character , I just don’t know
Midlife crisis - it will pass, and you'll be back on a GS soon enough.
Hi razor. Just looking through so I can see what garbage you're putting out. You sure don't disappoint....@@razorwired130
If BMW could have given us an optional old school headlight I would be seriously tempted, loved my old 2019 Rallye! Just miss the wonky eyes.... O_o
You won't even see it, when you're riding. Put a sticker of the old light inside your visor if you mis it so much
@@rudyhonings Not the worst idea I've heard :P
Within the Option 719 a Tarmac slaying package. Since most will use it for the street. How about a real horn like the rest of the tarmac slaying tourers, and while they’d at it backlit switches for night riding. It look pretty cool too.
Just wowwww 😎 this is a much more adventurous lighter than the previous design. I love the old but it's bulky and intimidating to small riders.
listing competitors for the GS… and no mention of the HD Pan America!
ouch!
Honda CRF450 Rally is something else
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I think the new Stelvio might give the GS a run for it's money.If the Stelvio turns out to be as good as my V85 TT,take my money.
I rode my Yamaha Tracer 900 to a test ride on the 1300 GS, I wanted to like it, the result was the Tracer won over, where the Tracer is a pleasure to ride, I found the 1300 more of a chore in comparison.
Bit late, but very welcome review.
Nice review Neevsey❤
Excellent review