I'm fairly certain putting the controller into tournament mode (holding down the profile button on the back while also holding down the triangular setup button in the front) disables the trigger adjustment function for as long as it is active, which would negate the issue of accidentally doing that mid-match. Only got mine yesterday tho so you might wanna check up on that rq
Sounds like one of the best pads on the market, despite that one issue you had there. This is the kind of in-depth review I like to hear. If you got more controllers/gear in general to review, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your input, Hotashi!
It's nice to see reviews like this form people that really use them. It's completely different from anything you could get from a review site or whatever.
Got one myself, The review is as accurate as the dpad lol. i didnt even realize how messy some of my inputs were until i picked it up. Dope review very informative
DAWG!!! you dont understand how much I appreciate this review. You did a second review after a month use is so helpful to me. Thanks for the enlightenment and be awesome.
I have this pad. It's pretty good, I love the flat dpad thing. Really smooth on the thumb. Hotashi mentioned having to master the flat pad thing but i personally didnt have that issue. It is accurate for me. If i ever miss an input, i would have missed that input on any other controller -- nothing really to do with the pad. Pros: Quality (not amazing but better than anything else out), Flat Dpad thing (for me) and the look/feel. Cons: Software is kinda bad, Bottom buttons are annoying And Price. Also, some people complain about the position of the flight pad buttons but that wasn't an issue for me. If you have the money to spend, then i'd suggest it. But if its too expensive, then id suggest the Hori Octa. It's basically the same thing for half the price.
Glad to see some recommendations for the pad players out there. I use a Hitbox/Snackbox Personally. but that's because my fingers hurt on pad or on a Lever, and I get waaaay too many jump inputs on pad.
Just got mine today and poked at it a bit. One of the things i noticed is that you have to recalibrate the L/R 2 buttons if you have them locked as buttons instead of triggers because its LOOKING for a full trigger pull, but its only travelling a fraction of the distance so it doesnt register. IDK if that helps you at all.
The disconnect you mentioned mirrors my own disconnects with the controller. No disconnect notification, the last input is just repeated until you turn it off. Happened on PC wired and wireless. Seems like a common issue, no disconnects on ps5 so far.
i think a leverless review would be cool; i already play on one but its button layout is quite different from the more hitbox-like one that you have. also, i kind of just want to hear more leverless stuff from people who dont play on leverless - makes for an interesting opinion to consider for everyone i think
I'm on the fence with getting this controller, I absolutely love the modular parts as I like to have my Stick in the primary position for non fighting and dpad for fighting, as well as different dpad types for different characters or games like you said. My current controller has back paddles too (only 2, not 4) and I agree they are a game changer and there's no way I'd give them up ever again lol The sync issue does worry me though and I don't think it has Hall Effect sticks either which is kind of a shame for something so expensive. Amazon reviews say its locked to 125hz polling rate which is kinda lame too in the new age of input latency optimization, though on PC you should be able to overclock it anyway. I appreciate the review from a specifically fighting game angle! I actually remembered your first look video and found this when I was looking for further info on it tonight, so very appreciated!
Thanks, brother. It looks cool, but it seems like too many issues to warrant the extremely high price tag. I wish they'd make another version without the back triggers and all the parts. Seems like those things are driving the price up. Their simple XB360 Marvel pad seemed a lot better.
Hmm.. I've had a few disconnects on PS5. Had no idea this was an issue. Hopefully they can fix it in an update soon. Disconnecting every 15 minutes makes this controller pretty useless. Is a shame because this controller is perfect coming from using the Astro C40 with the PS4.
I wanted a pad with back buttons to bind jump and FD and I liked the design of the d-pads and the converter on this one. I am a Leo player, so I want the accuracy when charging my inputs Waiting on mine to get here, but nice to see you are enjoying it
I got to try the controller myself but I quickly sent it back because of my own personal problems with it, as my hands were too big for the controller and I was constantly pressing on the back paddles and hitting the sensitive triggers when I don’t intend to.
Guys try the hori octa first if you aren’t sure about he layout. 50 bucks and if it doesn’t work, you’ll have a extra controller that doesn’t cost the same as the console. I have pro controllers so I know the cost and some won’t benefit from pro controllers.
I think I am grabbing this and the Kitsune and calling it a day. I like the Hori controller on PS5, but the DPad is only ok. Time to put the money down.
My biggest beef with the controller after a week of use is that the default d-pad is raised pretty high off of the controller. Occasionally I'll actually catch the d-pad underneath and it will mess up my inputs. It doesn't happen often, but it is possible while learning. Other than that, I tend to hit supers easier, and I no longer accidentally jump when doing half circle motions. I got a great deal on it from a buddy of mine, but I'm not sure I would have bought it at full price
after other pads like the fighting commander and the raion i just cant do it with the twin sticks still being on there. it's clearly a pad that considers fighting games, but it isn't just for fighting games, ya know? also for consideration: official tournaments hosted by capcom and namco bandai don't allow more than one button to have the same input, so this might be a no-go at those events based on the back triggers
The HORI Octa fightpads let you change the d-pad sens in the software, I make left and right lower so that downback IB is easier to hit and accidental backdash less likely. Can you do that with this or nah?
I have wrist tendonitis so I use analogue stick to play on a ps4 controller because its a lot lighter on my thumb and wrist than dpad, the octogonal thingy that this controller has as an attachment is a must for me
i have the same feeling about the d-pad. i play street fighter 6. when using the cross d-pad, sometimes i cannot blcok. when i check the replay. the game just register a down. the biggist one is a better option for the blcoking issue. i sent an request to the victrix for a fix of the sensitivity of the d-pad. but the cs ask me to send them video about the issue...... they are asking customer to test for them......... may be i will change back to hori
Would love to see a review of the Razer Raion. Its Dpad and triggers are amazing; face buttons are ok. It's very affordable and I'd recommend trying it out. I have used mine on PC/PS4/PS5 with no issues even though it only specifies PS4/PC support.
for the trigger stop sliders (the little slides that set which trigger stop u get) I just tapped them, it would happen here and there where I would set them in the middle of the match by accident so I just put tape so they wouldn't slide by accident
What's your honest opinion of the longevity of the back paddles? I got the Naicon previously and those couldn't handle repeated pressing or pressure and one of them just snapped off in 2 weeks, so I had to go back to a scuf paddle one, but there's that all too familiar stickdrift.
How do you get then stick plate off? I’m tryna put on the octa plate instead but I can’t get the stick plate off. Which direction do you push it off in?
my only fear is that the dpad buttons will become unusable like on the dualshock/dualsense but they cannot be repaired. Do the dpad use mechanical switches or membrane? Do they sell spare parts?
Anyone who has tried a Hori Octa? Are the d-pads better than the Hori's? I'm thinking to buy this commander with a Brook adapter because I bought a Commander Octa for SF6 (for my Xbox) and I don't like its d-pad because I have problems with the imputs when I try to alternate between down and back down, for example. Sometimes even when I try to hold back. It doesn't response. Maybe it's because the d-pad it's too small or because the way I'm putting my finger on the d-pad, but it's not working well and I'm frustratred because I love the other buttons. I'm not having any issues with the regular XSX controller... But I want six buttons in front and the two right bumpers :( Maybe buying an Elite Controller is a cheaper option? But I never touched one and I don't know how the paddles feels.
@@raveess5625 Ugh, now I am undecided. The Victrix costs €200 without offers and I would also have to buy the Brook converter because I'm playing on Xbox. I don't know if it would really compensate so much money (~€260 vs €150)... :(
@hotashi you're talking about R2 not registering sometimes. Is that just on steam or is it also on PS? I ask because I use a Hori FPS Plus for tourney, but cannot use it for Steam because sometimes the R2/L2 do not reg and am wondering if it's just a 3rd party hardware issue now.
one issue i've had with my BFG pro so far is that it'll randomly stop reading inputs from the controller. controller is still plugged in (i use it in wired on pc) and it's on but nothing happens when i press buttons. the only way for me to fix it is to completely disconnect the controller and replug it back in. sometimes i have to reboot the game entirely. other than those occasional times that happens. the controller works perfectly
This looks more a driver problem than a problem related to controller instead. Try uninstall all drivers that this controller and other controllers you may have plugged before e replug it in. Maybe OS is messing up and don't know what to do, or maybe the driver had an update that OS did not install
this controller would be the goat imo if they sold replacement modules and had customer service that wasn’t absolute shit. heard at least 10 horror stories about them and in my experience they ghosted me in emails and ended up sending me a free controller i couldn’t return which as nice as that was, raises concerns lmao
Idk maybe I'm just way to used to my Razer Raion but i just picked this controller up a couple weeks ago and fucking hate it so far. Hoping I'll start liking it more but i can tell I've been playing so much worse with it
This controller isn’t good for anyone who actually holds their controller quite tight or with a proper grip, the back buttons are way too sensitive and the software that you have to use is also mediocre
Nope, additional buttons are tournament legal as long as they're bound to exactly 1 input and not a macro. If you haven't seen Anklegator's 35+ button hitbox go check his video because it's insane but also tournament legal
lol players have been assigning their extra buttons on stick since street fighter 4 at the very least if not longer for easier execution doing p-link, piano or option selects
For $180 you can almost get a good lever less. This is cool in essence but all this shit is way overpriced especially for a controller which will wear out fast playing fighting games.
Just a heads up: You put the wrong location for Ignite. The Elston location shut down. FGC Meetups is in Skokie.
I'm fairly certain putting the controller into tournament mode (holding down the profile button on the back while also holding down the triangular setup button in the front) disables the trigger adjustment function for as long as it is active, which would negate the issue of accidentally doing that mid-match. Only got mine yesterday tho so you might wanna check up on that rq
I’ve seen alot of reviewers complain about that you would think they would know that
Sounds like one of the best pads on the market, despite that one issue you had there. This is the kind of in-depth review I like to hear. If you got more controllers/gear in general to review, I would appreciate it. Thanks for your input, Hotashi!
It's nice to see reviews like this form people that really use them. It's completely different from anything you could get from a review site or whatever.
Hard to tell if there is something more useless than a first-day review that barely tells you if it is a good buy
love the review style content, would be glad to see more
Would love to see the leverless review. Picked up a snackbox recently and I'm super interested in how other boxes stack up to it
From my experience, it’s really nice. The quality is top notch, but if you’re worried about spending the $400, the Hitbox will suffice
Got one myself, The review is as accurate as the dpad lol. i didnt even realize how messy some of my inputs were until i picked it up. Dope review very informative
DAWG!!! you dont understand how much I appreciate this review. You did a second review after a month use is so helpful to me. Thanks for the enlightenment and be awesome.
GIMME THE VICTRIX REVIEW
would love to hear more thoughts on the leverless pad, sick video as always - keep it up Hotashi
9:22 bro took a bite out of his analog stick
Glad I found this because I was thinking of adding a victrix to the collection, but I probably will not be doing that.
I have this pad. It's pretty good, I love the flat dpad thing. Really smooth on the thumb. Hotashi mentioned having to master the flat pad thing but i personally didnt have that issue. It is accurate for me. If i ever miss an input, i would have missed that input on any other controller -- nothing really to do with the pad.
Pros: Quality (not amazing but better than anything else out), Flat Dpad thing (for me) and the look/feel.
Cons: Software is kinda bad, Bottom buttons are annoying And Price. Also, some people complain about the position of the flight pad buttons but that wasn't an issue for me.
If you have the money to spend, then i'd suggest it. But if its too expensive, then id suggest the Hori Octa. It's basically the same thing for half the price.
Glad to see some recommendations for the pad players out there. I use a Hitbox/Snackbox Personally. but that's because my fingers hurt on pad or on a Lever, and I get waaaay too many jump inputs on pad.
The yellow artwork in the back looks sick, wonder where he got it from
Really like this review. Good amount of depth, and info I wouldn't have known to look for myself. Leverless review next, 100%
Just got mine today and poked at it a bit. One of the things i noticed is that you have to recalibrate the L/R 2 buttons if you have them locked as buttons instead of triggers because its LOOKING for a full trigger pull, but its only travelling a fraction of the distance so it doesnt register. IDK if that helps you at all.
The disconnect you mentioned mirrors my own disconnects with the controller. No disconnect notification, the last input is just repeated until you turn it off. Happened on PC wired and wireless. Seems like a common issue, no disconnects on ps5 so far.
Just got it a week ago , I got a lot to learn , personally I feel this guy when he went back to a ps5 controller
i think a leverless review would be cool; i already play on one but its button layout is quite different from the more hitbox-like one that you have. also, i kind of just want to hear more leverless stuff from people who dont play on leverless - makes for an interesting opinion to consider for everyone i think
I'm on the fence with getting this controller, I absolutely love the modular parts as I like to have my Stick in the primary position for non fighting and dpad for fighting, as well as different dpad types for different characters or games like you said. My current controller has back paddles too (only 2, not 4) and I agree they are a game changer and there's no way I'd give them up ever again lol
The sync issue does worry me though and I don't think it has Hall Effect sticks either which is kind of a shame for something so expensive. Amazon reviews say its locked to 125hz polling rate which is kinda lame too in the new age of input latency optimization, though on PC you should be able to overclock it anyway.
I appreciate the review from a specifically fighting game angle! I actually remembered your first look video and found this when I was looking for further info on it tonight, so very appreciated!
Thanks, brother. It looks cool, but it seems like too many issues to warrant the extremely high price tag. I wish they'd make another version without the back triggers and all the parts. Seems like those things are driving the price up. Their simple XB360 Marvel pad seemed a lot better.
Hmm.. I've had a few disconnects on PS5. Had no idea this was an issue. Hopefully they can fix it in an update soon. Disconnecting every 15 minutes makes this controller pretty useless. Is a shame because this controller is perfect coming from using the Astro C40 with the PS4.
i have had no disconnects on PS5 personally, maybe there is a serious pcb issue
Thank you for this indepth review. I was considering this controller. It's good to get an honest review.
I wanted a pad with back buttons to bind jump and FD and I liked the design of the d-pads and the converter on this one.
I am a Leo player, so I want the accuracy when charging my inputs
Waiting on mine to get here, but nice to see you are enjoying it
I have one. It actually makes it so much easier for Leo and Pot too. 👍
Battle beaver is really good too!
@@sirnarwhal9911 yo bro how accurate is the dpad? my hori commander is giving out on me and i just got a razer raion and honestly the pad is shit.
I got to try the controller myself but I quickly sent it back because of my own personal problems with it, as my hands were too big for the controller and I was constantly pressing on the back paddles and hitting the sensitive triggers when I don’t intend to.
Does anyone know the artist of those prints in the background? They look super nice!
Guys try the hori octa first if you aren’t sure about he layout. 50 bucks and if it doesn’t work, you’ll have a extra controller that doesn’t cost the same as the console. I have pro controllers so I know the cost and some won’t benefit from pro controllers.
Thanks for the review ! : )
Looking forward to the FS12 review!
I think I am grabbing this and the Kitsune and calling it a day. I like the Hori controller on PS5, but the DPad is only ok. Time to put the money down.
My biggest beef with the controller after a week of use is that the default d-pad is raised pretty high off of the controller. Occasionally I'll actually catch the d-pad underneath and it will mess up my inputs. It doesn't happen often, but it is possible while learning. Other than that, I tend to hit supers easier, and I no longer accidentally jump when doing half circle motions. I got a great deal on it from a buddy of mine, but I'm not sure I would have bought it at full price
after other pads like the fighting commander and the raion i just cant do it with the twin sticks still being on there. it's clearly a pad that considers fighting games, but it isn't just for fighting games, ya know? also for consideration: official tournaments hosted by capcom and namco bandai don't allow more than one button to have the same input, so this might be a no-go at those events based on the back triggers
you can take the right stick off and turn it into a 6 button controller like the hori. the controller comes with a different module you can swap in.
The HORI Octa fightpads let you change the d-pad sens in the software, I make left and right lower so that downback IB is easier to hit and accidental backdash less likely. Can you do that with this or nah?
I have wrist tendonitis so I use analogue stick to play on a ps4 controller because its a lot lighter on my thumb and wrist than dpad, the octogonal thingy that this controller has as an attachment is a must for me
i have the same feeling about the d-pad.
i play street fighter 6. when using the cross d-pad, sometimes i cannot blcok. when i check the replay. the game just register a down.
the biggist one is a better option for the blcoking issue.
i sent an request to the victrix for a fix of the sensitivity of the d-pad. but the cs ask me to send them video about the issue......
they are asking customer to test for them.........
may be i will change back to hori
Super nice editing and presentation!
Does the dpad have more tactile feedback than the dualsense?
I was just thinking about buying the victrix pro fs. I'd love to see a video with your opinions on it!
Is this pad tournament legal?
Give us that all-button stick review!
Great video! Looks like an amazing controller but I'll wait for victrix to fix some of the bugs you mentioned 😊
Would love to see a review of the Razer Raion. Its Dpad and triggers are amazing; face buttons are ok. It's very affordable and I'd recommend trying it out. I have used mine on PC/PS4/PS5 with no issues even though it only specifies PS4/PC support.
i just got mine and i hate it. I play karin in sfv and for some reason on 1pside doing qcf is a nightmare. I hate the face buttons too.
Still wanting to know if they updated the button mapping to allow triggers and shoulder bumpers to map to the back buttons
for the trigger stop sliders (the little slides that set which trigger stop u get) I just tapped them, it would happen here and there where I would set them in the middle of the match by accident so I just put tape so they wouldn't slide by accident
What's your honest opinion of the longevity of the back paddles? I got the Naicon previously and those couldn't handle repeated pressing or pressure and one of them just snapped off in 2 weeks, so I had to go back to a scuf paddle one, but there's that all too familiar stickdrift.
How do you get then stick plate off? I’m tryna put on the octa plate instead but I can’t get the stick plate off. Which direction do you push it off in?
I have a PS4 slim and im having the same problem with my new victrix pro BFG controller and it happens alot it stops working for no reason 😡
Does the Brook Switch adapter let this work on a Switch?
my only fear is that the dpad buttons will become unusable like on the dualshock/dualsense but they cannot be repaired. Do the dpad use mechanical switches or membrane? Do they sell spare parts?
Anyone who has tried a Hori Octa? Are the d-pads better than the Hori's? I'm thinking to buy this commander with a Brook adapter because I bought a Commander Octa for SF6 (for my Xbox) and I don't like its d-pad because I have problems with the imputs when I try to alternate between down and back down, for example. Sometimes even when I try to hold back. It doesn't response. Maybe it's because the d-pad it's too small or because the way I'm putting my finger on the d-pad, but it's not working well and I'm frustratred because I love the other buttons.
I'm not having any issues with the regular XSX controller... But I want six buttons in front and the two right bumpers :(
Maybe buying an Elite Controller is a cheaper option? But I never touched one and I don't know how the paddles feels.
@@raveess5625 Ugh, now I am undecided. The Victrix costs €200 without offers and I would also have to buy the Brook converter because I'm playing on Xbox. I don't know if it would really compensate so much money (~€260 vs €150)... :(
Thank you so much I am thinking about this controller instead of the new hori fighting commander because that sucks
Would love to see a review on the wolverine v2 pro, the dpad seems godlike
Any information about this controller being available in Japan? I want one but it isn't on Japanese Amazon 😢
Man's got the thickest Baltimore accent in the FGC 😂
You had any issues since then? Just curious, also, did the dpad loosen up or still good like day one?
Got mines a few weeks ago. I like it.
would you recommend this controller for a casual ggstrive player?
I'm curious, can you just take out the analogue sticks and leave the slot blank? I'd assume so right?
Please add timestamps.
Just for the future, it's better for you to test ALL of the features before doing a review. You didn't even test the fight pad.
have you tried to stick with notches attached? if so what do you think?
@hotashi you're talking about R2 not registering sometimes. Is that just on steam or is it also on PS? I ask because I use a Hori FPS Plus for tourney, but cannot use it for Steam because sometimes the R2/L2 do not reg and am wondering if it's just a 3rd party hardware issue now.
I'm a lever less player so I'd love a review!
one issue i've had with my BFG pro so far is that it'll randomly stop reading inputs from the controller. controller is still plugged in (i use it in wired on pc) and it's on but nothing happens when i press buttons. the only way for me to fix it is to completely disconnect the controller and replug it back in. sometimes i have to reboot the game entirely. other than those occasional times that happens. the controller works perfectly
This looks more a driver problem than a problem related to controller instead. Try uninstall all drivers that this controller and other controllers you may have plugged before e replug it in. Maybe OS is messing up and don't know what to do, or maybe the driver had an update that OS did not install
You said it’s bigger than a dual sense edge? I heard it’s smaller - has sticks closer together than dual sense edge 🤔
it was my error
Need a fight pad that has the exact dpad as the Xbox One's, that dpad ong is the best one I've ever used
this controller would be the goat imo if they sold replacement modules and had customer service that wasn’t absolute shit. heard at least 10 horror stories about them and in my experience they ghosted me in emails and ended up sending me a free controller i couldn’t return which as nice as that was, raises concerns lmao
I saw a bunch of reviews that says the controller application on PC doesn't work with steam? anyone able to verify this please?
I’ve been using it on pc just fine
i hope you'll review the hori fighting commander
Yeah, with it having to be reset every 15 minutes, thats a big no go for me. Shame, cause I really want to love this thing.
Excellent Review. is it legal in tournaments to have multiple buttons mapped?
and yes i would love you to do hardware reviews. 👍👍
Generally as long as each button only does one input, it should be legal.
Damn, how you get your hands on a Dualsense 5? 😂
Definitely interested to hear about the Victrix hitbox 🙂
What game are you playing
Does this controller fighter pad good for mortal kombat 11
It’s the best pad for all fighting games.
Idk maybe I'm just way to used to my Razer Raion but i just picked this controller up a couple weeks ago and fucking hate it so far. Hoping I'll start liking it more but i can tell I've been playing so much worse with it
Are you still using it?
Nice Nozarashi Gosuke shirt 👕
Thanks for the vid. The music is just a little too loud.
I do love my hori fc octa
very neaterino pepperino
Amazing thank you so much for this
Ignite skokie is the best place to game at love the bar 😂
The name of the game...
Ps4/5 and PC is hella convenient
8:41 LMAO
For $180 eating trigger inputs is unacceptable
Racism, Racism..☠️☠️☠️
Jesus CRUST $180 phew…
New to your channel and you know what brotha you alright
I'm a drop a sub
This controller isn’t good for anyone who actually holds their controller quite tight or with a proper grip, the back buttons are way too sensitive and the software that you have to use is also mediocre
subbed
that cam is kinda racist
I gave this back. Its shit
calling the camera racist lmao
ayy first
The cheat buttons on the back need to be banned.... that's STRAIGHT UP cheating.
Nope, additional buttons are tournament legal as long as they're bound to exactly 1 input and not a macro.
If you haven't seen Anklegator's 35+ button hitbox go check his video because it's insane but also tournament legal
custom hitboxes being allowed means anything is allowed baybeee
lol players have been assigning their extra buttons on stick since street fighter 4 at the very least if not longer for easier execution doing
p-link, piano or option selects
Seethe
For $180 you can almost get a good lever less. This is cool in essence but all this shit is way overpriced especially for a controller which will wear out fast playing fighting games.