Critical Race Theory with Christopher Rufo [S2 Ep.27]
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2021
- Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.
My guest today is Christopher Rufo. Christopher is a documentary filmmaker and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He has almost single-handedly led the national fight against Critical Race Theory, as it manifests in public schools and in workplaces. I haven't said much about this subject yet. So it was great to finally dive into it.
Christopher and I talk about where Critical Race Theory comes from. We talk about diversity training in the workplace, segregating people by race, various anti-critical race theory state laws and whether they are a good idea, what business owners and CEOs can do to fight critical race theory, and much more.
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I asked my woke friend, “You know how we are all born with an innate essence or nature, with gifts in certain areas and weaknesses in others, like our innate personality?” And she said “You mean what skin color you are?” I said “No, I’m talking about stuff deeper than outer appearance, like intelligence, humor, depth of character, artistic gifts, etc.” She said, “I don’t know where you’re going with this, but people are born into a skin color that determines how people will see you.” I was like, “But that’s not all there is, there are way more fascinating traits in people than their skin color.”
She got triggered.
Sounds like a case of "But Brawndo's got what plants crave!"
Except you're not born with any of those things lol...
these are traits that are developed over time
@@chrisrock219 if you raised 20 kids in a school for comedy and theater and praised outgoing actions, you’d still wind up with some introverts.
@@hueco5002 ahh trueee. My bad, you're right - babies are intelligent and have a very rich depth of character lol!!
@@chrisrock219 nature and nurture. genetics play a significant role on the personality traits of an individual.
What if Critical Race Theory is really about professional car racing and everyone had it wrong?
We need a million Rufos and Colemans shaping the public debate. Listening to shallow race essentialist activists is insufferable. They need to be pushed from decision making roles, and be allowed to debate their ideas to eachother elsewhere. They are a hazard to susceptable minds.
John McWhorter, Glenn Loury, and Jason D. Hill have destroyed CRT on camera
@@colinreese And nobody knows who they are... That's the truth. And that's a big problem.
@@vivianchou1922 Are you a bot? I hope you're a bot.
@@vivianchou1922, "The Anti-CRT movement is racist destructive neo-Nazi ideology.",
So, if you oppose teaching kids to be racist, that makes you a neo-Nazi? Ok...
@@Ridingrules10000 -- CRT teaches kids that race is not biologically real, it is a social construct. Therefore, there is no reason to hate members of another race.
Anti-CRT is a neo-Nazi ideology that wants kids to be taught that race is biologically real and that the Western European race is superior to the other races.
Thank you, Coleman. This is happening to my company, where I have worked for over a decade, and it breaks my heart into a thousand shards. I’m looking for another job, but I love this company, so it makes me very sad.
You might be able to sue them, and get some cash to tide you over in the job hunt.
@@charliewatts6007 Pretty sure that James Lindsay said that as a critique of woke racial essentialism, not as his own viewpoint.
@@charliewatts6007 You're misquoting James Lindsay. These words you assign to him come after the words "Critical Race Theory holds that the most important thing about you is your race...." It is a criticism of CRT. If your comment is sincere, I ask you to check your facts and edit your comment to be accurate in kind.
I also disagree with your characterization of the "Anti-Critical Race Theory movement" as "White Supremacist." Using terms like "White Supremacist" can have a lot of impact, since so many of us are disgusted by white supremacists, but whatever you gain from using that rhetorical style is quickly lost when people fatigue of being manipulated. I'm well past that point, so it doesn't work on me.
I love all the diverse people in my community and seek to make society welcoming of everyone. I've given both advocates of CRT and its offshoots a fair chance to persuade me that it can help. I've only seen adoption of its ideas make race relations worse. I'm open to having my mind changed, but it will require a sincere and honest argument. Given that you misquoted Lindsay (unless it was an honest mistake), I'm skeptical that I'm going to get one from you.
@@milesmcstylez I did a little research on "Charlie Watts" who is, of course, using the moniker of the Rolling Stones' late drummer, and it appears he's a troll or a bot. I made a response for rhetorical purposes, but, FWIW, I think it's probably best we not engage with him.
@@sivacrom -- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
As a nonparent whose employer doesn’t do this, I’m Very grateful for this description of what CRT looks like on the ground. I’ll be honest, when the psycho Right describes it in absolutes, clearly pushing an agenda, it’s hard to parse what is real from fake. Because Some of this is so preposterous, it needs to be explained in vignettes and anecdotes so we can understand what these things can devolve into.
Nonparent? What a strange way to refer to yourself.
I like the term "child free"
The idea of segregated civil/human-rights teaching & training would be hilarious if it wasn’t so dystopian.
Is civil rights and segregation not a part of this country's history?? 🤔 Europeans landed here and hugged everyone? black people decided to come over in boats and Native Americans signed up for genocide? 🤔 Or how about 90% of all the ancient history that colonials destroyed on this land, dating back to the Ice Age, because they thought it was all savage material. You all are very delusional
There are things that parents can do. You can opt out of things like completing intersectionality forms. You can ask questions of teacher and principals such as what exactly is meant by various terms like "Whiteness" or "intersectionality" and so on. Ask to sit in on classes. As a taxpayer you have the right to do these things
What’s your point of you debunking CRT This country has been divided by before CRT based on classicism systematic separate but supposedly equal the constitution is words that s for certain people Look at the legislative Government what body of people who govern what race is the majority of Supreme Court etc
@@lionelwoods5115 according to you the brain, intelligence, morals and values are directly connected to the person's skin color. What an ignorant stance!
As John McWhorter said, they can participate but they have to sit down like everyone else.
@@lionelwoods5115 The point is - they are known as natural brute beasts that holds themselves not guilty for destroying generational wealth of my ancestors intellectual property rights that produced outstanding businesses, and towns. They are very destructive and therefore Satan was able to use them successfully in going to other countries and killing their leaders. Today, we actually have books, videos, podcasts, etc., and describes the Great Evil in America that Americans want to continously ignore. There ancestors told them that they will be in poverty, but they love Lynching, Stealing, and Commiting Unspeakable Crimes against YAHWEH'S people. What is going to happen to every participant is not written in the Holy Bible original KJV!
Intersectionality is basically an attempt to apply RPG rules to real life. The more victim points you have, the more power your character gets
@@kevinboone2178, actually what I said was an analogy based in structural analysis of intersectionality.
What you said were a lot of tangential things that don't relate to my comment.
@@kevinboone2178 Saying that past events have an effect on the present to support your batshit crazy conclusions is the logical fallacy of the deepity (troll truism).
@@purdysanchez Revised. A structural analysis of intersectionality...lol...you tried to assuage your claim about victimhood. The perpetrators of American Slavery & Segregation targeted human beings for extermination and de-humanization. Those are victims. And the consequences persists in various ways, including economically, politically and psychologically. To silence this group and tell them to get on with their lives regardless, to be good little boys and girls -- by inference to make you feel better, is hubris talking. There's a reason Native Black American (NBA) households headed by college grads have significant less average household net worth than ones headed by White high school dropouts. Do you want the systemic mechanisms responsible for this to persist? Fu** rising by your own bootstraps. There's a debt to be paid to the group most responsible for the country's stealth economics. The consequences of the U.S. Gov't and White Supremacy doing everything to squash Native Black Americans collective efforts at self-determination is apparent to those who's eye's are wide-open. Since day one, like now, NBAs have done what they could with what little they have. Since day one, like now, there have been individuals in the collective that have done wondrous things in all human endeavors, but this fact shouldn't be used as a cudgel to say "YOU CAN TOO" -- for were it true we wouldn't be here. Restorative justice repairs the breach. Do it. NBAs will not clean the the mess America made.
Good analogy.
Chris really held his own in terms of argumentation and gave some good defenses to coleman's critiqures here. Pleasantly surprised to see Rufo had more depth and creditibility to his more contentious ideas. Wasn't expecting to see such a defensible line of reasoning for these anti-CRT bills. Good faith arguments from both of you!
Did you think an 8-year-old should have to argue with the teacher about the racist curriculum rather than the state banning racist indoctrination?
@@colinreese 🤣
What were Coleman's critiques? They were in full agreement aside from it being debateable in the marketplace of ideas
@@colinreese People tend to distrust laws that are put forward by people they don't trust. Most rational, thinking people think Florida's governor is a complete idiot and a hypocrite too, because a major tenet of conservatism is local control and opposition to governmental top-down structures, yet he imposes a statewide ban on local school boards and local school districts implementing their own mask mandates. If Ron DeSantis said that sky was blue, I might have to think about it for a while before I agreed with him, because he's just such a lying blathering idiot that I wouldn't immediately trust myself.
@@Theyungcity23 which is a good question and was met with a good answer.
I’m really enjoying your intelligent talks with very intelligent speakers. It was recommended in my YT feed. Thank you
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Thanks. It would like to see you interview Dr. James Lindsey for a deeper dive into Critical Theory and postmodernism.
Identity politics inevitably leads to ingroup/outgroup mentality.
Ingroup/outgroup mentality inevitably leads to tension between groups.
Tension between groups will inevitably harm everyone, and minorities will suffer the most.
In-group out-group mentality is inherent to human beings.
@@Varlwyll agree. And in the wrong dose, it completely blind our judgment, divides us and is the root cause of discrimination, atrocities, genocides.
This is why any ideology who reinforces this instict, especially in ridiculous basis such as race and sex, is regressive and destructive.
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement, known as (Anti-CRT) or (Anti-Crits), seeks to revive and reinstate the racist Nazi ideology. The movement sprang up in September of 2020 when White Supremacists feared racial equality was advancing in the wake of the outrage over the police murder of George Floyd by four members of the notorious systemically racist Minneapolis Police Department.
The Ant--Critical Race Theory movement holds that race is biologically real, the White race is a superior race and teaches White kids to hate all non-Whites. Anti-Crits oppose CRT because CRT teaches kids that race is not biologically real, it is a social construct. Therefore, there is no reason to hate members of another race.
Christopher Rufo is one of the disgusting despicable leaders of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement, known as (Anti-CRT) or (Anti-Crits), seeking to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. The Anti-Crits wants K-12 students to be taught that race is biologically real and that the Western European race is superior to the other races. The Anti-Crits wants K-12 students to be taught that slavery was good for the African race because slavery is ordained of God.
“Critical race theory teaches that the White race is not superior to the other races”, Rufo said in an interview in May of 2020, “and race equality has become, in essence, the default ideology of the federal bureaucracy and is now being weaponized against White Supremist America. White Supremacy must defend itself.”
Another Anti-Crit leader, the openly racist U. S. Senator John Neely Kennedy of Louisiana, went on Fox News in June of this year to proudly proclaim that, "the primary reason that America was founded was to maintain White supremacy. Not freedom, not rule of law, not equal opportunity, not personal responsibility, but White supremacy." He went on to say that he was proud that "Americans are racist and they don't much like Black people."
In Texas, Anti-Crits want to punish students for "civic engagement."
Another Anti-Crit leader, James Lindsay, is a staunch defender of White Supremacy.
I see that very interesting things are happening in your cuckooland.
@@vivianchou1922 show me proof that James Lindsay ever said something like that. His whole message is the exact opposite.The only reason why James Lindsay would ever say something like that would be to criticise it and show how ridiculous CRT and the obsession with group identities is.
Sources or I call fake news on you.
Chris, I saw a pop up on RUclips for Washington State Charter Schools Association. I googled it. It was ALL about CRT type of education. You probably won’t see this but I’m fighting my school board in M.L. WA, we recently beat the Levy in our Primary and our Superintendent was removed from his position.
@@vivianchou1922 Nice try but either you are purposely misrepresenting Lindsey’s actual words or you’re too ignorant to have actually done any research. Lindsey was referring to the tenants OF the CRT commies. Wadda douche!🤦♂️
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement sprang up in September of 2020 when White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis feared that systemic racism would be rooted out of police departments across the nation in the wake of the public outrage over the police murder of George Floyd by four members of the notoriously systematically racist Minneapolis Police Department.
So fragile to the truth of our history.
Imagine being so manipulated that being "woke" or educated on a subject is a worse than being asleep. Yet the Right continues to talk about breaking the matrix. LMAO
I’m an atheist, but thank God for Christopher Rufo! So smart and even more effective. What an inspiration…
It’s really lame to preface every statement containing the word “God” with “I’m an atheist,” like some sort of reflexive need to stake your identity.
-- For the record, it was White Supremacist U. S. Senator Tom Cotton who first said, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
@@derrickbell24 Anybody I don't agree with is a "white supremacist" 🙄
So boring. I highly doubt Senator Cotton said that
@@derrickbell24 you look silky calming anyone with an alternative view a white supremacist.
Just say "thank goodness"
Agree with Rufo's style or not, without sabre-rattling conservatives like him to resist the institutionalized madness coming from the far left, things would get very dark, very fast, likely for a very long time. David French was never going to prevent any of this; to the contrary, he was one of the first to bend the knee and endorse the new left's intolerant orthodoxy. I'm grateful someone's actually fighting back.
I dont really see this guy as a sabre-rattling conservative. He is just a film maker who has uncovered a lot of scary stuff that really needed to be shared.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
@@charliewatts6007 Isn't that the OPPOSITE of the truth? People who are against critical race theory (such as me) agree with the pure and moral concept that we (humans) should be based on the content of our character and never on the color of our skin. The notion of natural "whiteness" (.i.e racism) being with a new born baby is thus an abomination to us. Also, where did you see this idea that race is biologically real? Can you provide a link??
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
You guys are awesome. Thank you!
I'm a voluntaryist/anarcho-capitalist leaning libertarian, so all of the dilemmas and delicate balances about what should be taught in public schools don't arise for me. I don't believe in compulsory schooling. Parents can/should decide whether their children go to school and what they'll be taught. I think most parents will see that they're children at least learn how to read and do math, and teach them the basics of other subjects. Some may home school. Others may send them to voluntary and private schools that look much like public schools. I believe the free market makes all things cheap, plentiful and spontaneously diverse.
I also believe in complete freedom of association, so I think I'm probably against the civil rights act, as it's usually interpreted. Of course, as an individualist, I see racism, in the older meaning of the word, as ignorant, ugly and mean, but its better to draw the racists out of the wood work and avoid them, than to force them to conform to my standards and make martyrs of them. Sometimes, the racist is just angry, confused and misguided. Why not be patient with him?
So parents should have the choice to cripple their kid intellectually.
This is why libertarians are such idiots.
I can't help but ask, as a voluntaryist, do you think we should defund/abolish the police, and replace them fully with volunteer neighbourhood watches?
@@milesmcstylez Certainly I think steps should be taken in that direction. I said I lean heavily toward the ideal, but I'm not a puritanical zealot about it. I think any laws or regulations on the books should be eliminated so people have the choice of private protection. We already have private security, just expand on that model. Start cutting budgets gradually, and put in a plan where private alternatives can be crowd-funded. If some black people distrust white security, let all black companies offer their services. (I'm also against anti-discrimination laws.) If you say this will aggravate inter-racial distrust, well, then start a inter-racial friendship club to talk it out.
@@kypdurron62 Why are the curricula and rules of school boards or "the community" better than the choices of parents? With so many people, with so many cultures, values, religions and ethnic backgrounds, no single syllabus or educational method can satisfy every child or family. I personally don't care all that much, but if Christian parents want to have their children learn some "creation science", what's it to me? Maybe Native American parents will want to teach their children their history and life way. Am I, or you, the arbiter of "The One True Science!". I was born and raised a Catholic and none of it stuck. Maybe you worry to much about these things.
@@jethrobodine9155 Lol I'm more curious about where you draw the line on voluntarism, given that time is money. At the end of the day, people will only effectively do jobs like sewer maintenance, firefighting, policing, road construction, military/armed forces, etc. if someone is paying them to do it. And that creates a free rider problem, of some significant % of the population thinking to themselves "if everyone else contributes to funding but I choose not to, then I get to have my cake and eat it too". Taxes and public spending solve that free rider problem by making contributions mandatory.
So do you think firefighters should charge money for putting out housefires, and let houses burn down if people can't pay? Should the military be loyal to the highest bidder, which could very well be China? How is this pipe dream of "private alternatives can be crowd-funded" supposed to address game theory's free-rider problem?
Coleman… love your intellect, curiosity and clarity. Interesting guest.
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay are preservation of systemic racism the favors Whites, rolling back advancements in racial equality and returning to the days of Jim Crow.
@@charliewatts6007 You're lying. Lindsay wants people treated independently of their race.
@@barryon8706 "People have value based on the color of their skin...race defines everything about us."
-- White Supremacist Tom Cotton; U. S. Senator (Arkansas)
@@charliewatts6007 Why are you dishonest?
The full quote is:
"Critical race theory is the belief that people have value based on the color of their skin, and that our race defines everything about us.
It's not just false-it's dangerous."
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull Does critical race theory want racial discrimination?
The Nazis would have loved CRT with the races switched around. Their anti-semitism was based on ideas about invisible racial conspiracies.
I'm drawn to how perfectly the color of Coleman's shirt and lips match in this video.
Coleman has almost perfected his Sam Harris impersonation.
Lol yes when he says uhhh while forming a thought it sounds just like Sam 😂
@@vivianchou1922 Bot alert.
When I listened to him and Sam talking, it just sounded like the same person talking to himself. Lmao
All Coleman needs is for Greenwald, Azlan and Uygur to slander Coleman regularly.
@@SanjeevSharma-vk1yo he should say something controversial about Islam, ignoring the political reality that informs it. He should focus more on the fundamental tenets of the creed than the multiplicity of voices it contains.
Rufo is a hero
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-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
@@vivianchou1922 what do you find objectionable? Do you disagree that we should treat everyone the same? When did you become racist?
@@vivianchou1922 I find you to be racist and offensive. This channel is about reducing racism
@@jwatson181 meh Rufo had his head handed to him when he spoke with Marc L Hill about CRT. Rufo admitted his goal was to make anything racial that conservative whites folk dont like as CRT.
What a great guest!
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
@@vivianchou1922 How can I take you seriously when you say Rufo has founded a white supremacist ... movement? What does that even mean?
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull where?
Interesting conversation I haven't heard from him yet thanks for doing this
This is bindboggling to hear from someone in Switzerland. How do people not see how crazy this is? They must be full of resentment to justify CRT in the education system. Sounds more like revenge then justice to me.
Someone who refuses to give a hug = Critical Brace Theorist
Someone that refuses to pray before eating = Critical Grace Theorist
Critical Embrace* Theorist
*Minute **1:01:00*
Coleman!, have you NOT heard of "Gabriel Gipe" in California, highschool-teacher?
[No American Flag], ANTIFA flag on the wall, gay-pride flag, portrait of Mao; started each school year saying: "I have 180 days to turn you into [socialist/communist] revolutionaries."
Intimidated and bullied kids into renouncing/denouncing their privately held values and proclaiming allegiances to his extreme-leftist causes... complaints were ignored, and he ran his classroom not as a public-school space for teaching curriculum; but as his own, personal "Socialist/Communist Reeducation Camp" to completely inculcate every class with his own extremist political and activist ideologies. Busted by undercover journalists with Project-Veritas.
The school-board said they suspended him, [with pay]... and termination 'will be following'...
I think this is a PERFECT example of the hypothetical you mention at the time-stamp mentioned above... and, i think to see your over-the-top-hypothetical ACTUALLY manifested in reality... and what develops because of its exposure, as far as consequences or lack-thereof... you ought to check out this story.
*GABRIEL GIPE / INDERKUM HIGH SCHOOL / NATOMAS UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
I doubt he needed undercover journalists, considering he had the stuff on his walls. Kids have phones. I agree that's bad, but the way that the right thinks that investigative journalists are akin to heroic spies when they're doing things as *dangerous* as investigating high-school teachers is funny.
@@John-tr5hn You're wrong. This teacher did indeed have this stuff on his walls---- *FOR MULTIPLE SCHOOL SEASONS*
That was in FULL-VIEW of all the other faculty and administrators; ...and *Nothing was done about it* until this expose hit the news. Explain that to me: if this stuff was "on his walls" blatantly, for multiple school-seasons, ...why was no action taken until just now?
Yes, it is heroic for investigative journalists to go after extremist-activists preying on school children; *ESPECIALLY* when every conceivable person in a place with the ability or authority to do anything about it is turning a blind-eye; and perhaps is doing THAT--- because they actually agree with what they see.
Exposing predators going after the youth that will become the future generations of this country is Absolutely a heroic and important job-- i cannot think of a deed more important.
@@hancehanson4000 Sorry, bro, but if something is in plain view and everyone knows about it, there's no reason to go "undercover" to expose it. All you need to do is have one of the students take pictures of it and then publicize it widely. The reason it wasn't acted upon is because it wasn't well known, not because it was hidden. I'm not saying that journalism like this isn't important; it is, but don't pretend that talking to high school students makes a person brave or heroic. I reserve those words for people who actually risk their lives or their livelihoods, at the very least (and not always).
And stop being like the left and changing the meaning of words. He wasn't a "predator." He was a propagandist. If you had asked him what he was, he probably would have told you so. He's not lying about what he's doing; he's doing it in the open. Many doctrinaire leftist will tell you exactly what they're doing and trying to accomplish. They're not being sneaky. If anything, they're being extremely honest. If the public doesn't care about it, then that's on the public.
Stop trying to create hysteria.
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
Often, I think the proper way to reform debates is as "who should decide," not "what should be decided." And in this case, it's really hard to argue that the parents / voters shouldn't have the say on what their kids are being taught with their tax dollars.
"Original Sin of slavery"? Slavery is the 'original sin' of most cultures/nations that have progressed past the Neolithic stage. Americans/colonial Englishmen certainly didn't invent it.
Really appreciate the discussion.
-- One of the key tenets of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement is the belief that race is biologically real. According to James Lindsay, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're stating. Are you comparing James Lindsay to a white supremicist? Or that not supporting CRT is somehow linked to white supremacy? I promise I'm not trying to be imflamatory, Just not fully understanding and would like to understand your thoughts.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
@@vivianchou1922 okay. I believe I understand where you’re coming from. I have seen the quote you referenced earlier except the beginning of it states “Critical Race theory holds that the most important thing…” I have never heard James Lindsay expouse white superiority or even a race centered ideology. But as with all things i will keep an open mind and listen to him and other voices on all sides with a willingness to be wrong in my understanding. Thanks.
@@JustADadGaming -- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
Such a fruitful conversation. Thank you
-- One of the key tenets of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement is the belief that race is biologically real. According to James Lindsay, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
@@charliewatts6007 I don’t believe race is biologically real, it’s purely arbitrary categories. And I also believe Critical Theory is garbage and racist. There goes your argument and “key tenets”. Next?
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay are preservation of systemic racism the favors Whites, rolling back advancements in racial equality and returning to the days of Jim Crow.
@@charliewatts6007 CCP troll.
@@vivianchou1922 CCP troll with a week old account
@Coleman: I really appreciate your "results oriented" approach to problems of all types.
It kind of boggles my mind that a "results oriented" strategy is actually NOT integrated throughout the curriculum of our entire educational system.
And what I mean by "results oriented" is an underlying philosophical component that focuses on defining broad, ideal goals/outcomes and then evaluating actions & solutions by the degree to which they achieve those goals and then make corrections accordingly.
I'm thinking of the way you & McWhorter focus on solutions that actually have the potential to be beneficial to those in poorer black neighborhoods in a tangible & meaningful way...
Results are predetermined by INPUTS (environment, etc). You cannt put in junk and expect good results - if you spend seven hours studying in schools you be very knowledgeable and do well. But if you spend seven hours playing sports (when you know you have smaller weak body) dont expect to make a good living out of your effort in sport
We are spearheading a righteous fight against reality. We're doing God's work. God doesn't want us to live in reality. Reality is bad for you. Fight reality! Reality divides us!
Twitter just took away Chris' blue check mark. How petty.
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement was founded by a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi who just released a video claiming Jews opposing White Supremacy are communists.
Academic proponents of critical theory use a process of postmodern "deconstruction" with the ostensible aim of interrogating the past in a manner which intentionally undermines the linguistic pairing of binaries that allegedly allow for the sustenance of multi-generational cultural bias (i.e. good/evil, right/wrong, etc) and, by extension, normative values.. As a tool of academic inquiry, deconstruction serves a legitimate function; however, its wider use has lead to abuse wherein it is being applied by race-centric advocates of critical race theory to misinterpret the past with respect to affecting desired future outcomes (e.g. 1619 project). With the ais of Krenshaw's intersectional theory, CRT is being expanded in a way that links racism, gender, and class as inseparable elements of neocolonial oppression. "CRT scholarship deconstructs race and racism by positioning the interests of people of color at the center of inquiry to advance racial equality in general and equal treatment under the law in particular." (Critical Race Theory as a Means to Deconstruct, Recover and Evolve in Communication Studies; Communication Law Review Volume 10, Issue)
The point of deconstruction is to make it fuzzy so you can do whatever you want with it. The turning of synoyms like gender/sex into two concepts allowed for the creation of trans identity and the trans movement. They did the same thing with race/ethnicity fyi and the ramifications are fascinating.
27:35f
_In a civil rights training, people had to stand up and say "my name is so and so, I'm white and I'm complicit in white supremacy..."_
This reminds me of Winston Smith confessing his alleged crimes before being shot in _1984._
Our politicians could learn a lot from both of these men.
I really appreciate you both taking on this issue. I grew up in places that were inner city black majority to ones that were almost entirely white and people would argue if the Swedes were better than the English or vice versa and so on...how about no race or sexual theories in public schools. Color blind meritocracy is in fact the only way forward for this nation and the wider world. May the best win. E Pluribus Unum.
@passius1 Maybe not formally...there is the explicit and the implicit, the conscious and the subconscious. At any rate, if you listen to this conversation you'll see that it is being taught by some and a "woke inc" corporate and public sector movement is as real as anything.
@passius1 I have no problem with people studying it, communism, fascism, flat earth, etc. privately. When it's a question of public sphere then I stand by the orginal statement that a doctrine of taking people as individuals based on character is the only thing to teach to children. Kids don't need to be learning any race or gender theory in school, they need to learn how to read and do basic math and logic, then they can read whatever they want.
@passius1 I understand your point. Their is certainly enough mania in manu varieties to go around today. Perhaps "cultural marxism" or "identity politics" would be better terms for the wave of a particular mania in our culture and even public sector today.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
@@vivianchou1922 Exactly. The left has always been more about identity politics bc it's a collectivistic worldview not an individual one. Ironically the world needs more non white people to speak up for the individual to throw a wrench in it and restore some sanity and decency.
20:30 Another word for this is falsifiability. The Theory can't be falsified.
@@vivianchou1922 Tell that to the 100 million people murdered by their own governments in the 20th century for the glory of the proletariat or whatever.
@@vivianchou1922 Do you support treating people the same regardless of race? I do. That's why I'm anti-CRT.
@@vivianchou1922 I don't support discrimination by race.
Do you support discrimination by race?
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull Does critical race theory want racial discrimination?
The Nazis would have loved CRT with the races switched around. Their anti-semitism was based on ideas about invisible racial conspiracies.
@@charliewatts6007 Good catch. I counter that those were all for the glory of the proletariat, and we will adjust the total for Communism to 300 million.
Very interesting and educative discussion. Thank you!
Mr Coleman you should have Benjamin Boyce on your show to talk about Evergreen College and how it went from a bold experiment to collapsing because of CRT.
47:16 It's easy to defeat the CRT with ideas (it's a nonsensical theory). The problem is that arguments against the CRT would be labelled hate speech and banned themselves.
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement was founded by a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi who just released a video claiming Jews opposing White Supremacy are communists.
@@charliewatts6007 CRT is utter nonsense. Anyone with a lahf of brain should oppose it, regardless of your Ideology.
@@charliewatts6007 I wonder why people like you never complain about Asian supremacy.
@@overtonpendulum2071 -- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement sprang up in September of 2020 when White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis feared that systemic racism would be rooted out of police departments across the nation in the wake of the public outrage over the police murder of George Floyd by four members of the notoriously systematically racist Minneapolis Police Department.
@@overtonpendulum2071 It's an actual bot you're responding to so i wouldn't bother.
Remember that saying from the 60's, "Free your mind and your ass will follow"? To me, critical social theory of any kind is about the INTERNAL processes an INDIVIDUAL should go through to determine which of the beliefs and pre-conceptions that they hold near and dear are self-determined and which have been externally imposed by society. So I can get behind the premise of applying critical social theory to achieving a color-blind society (free your ass) by first determining how we have been shaped by race (free your mind). That said, critical thinking in general is all about using objective, rational thought to put a data point into context. Contemporary critical race theorist are so far off the mark when it comes to putting race into context that I would consider them some of the weakest critical thinkers of all time. Yet somehow, the CRT's have grown into one of the most powerful hegemonic forces of contemporary society. So ironic.
Well said! Critical race theory often starts by throwing away the baby of reason with the racist bathwater, as they often pretend that reason and science are "oppressive" and "white" :) That should invalidate almost every theory they build right off the bat.
@@Wazoox Yeah, if my theories and/or grift couldn't stand up to intellectual scrutiny then I would attack objective reasoning too.
Not so much ironic. More like a cohesive effort, also known as a "conspiracy."
*dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnn*
@Jennifer Mugrage You are talking about the radical political conclusions drawn by radical critical social theorist who have failed to apply critical thinking to the social conditions under which they live (that is why I wrote that it is ironic how contemporary CRT's have become the most powerful hegemonic structure in today's society. They have become everything that they profess to hate. They preach that they want to free people by tearing down oppressive power structures. Turns out, they just want the power). Originally, CST was described as a personal method of introspection designed to help an individual develop a meta awareness of those beliefs that have been imposed on their system of thinking by powerful, external social forces. How much of what you believe and what you hold to be true has been determined by your own investigation of the world and what do you believe and hold to be true because someone told you so? CST helps an individual determine the later.
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay are preservation of systemic racism the favors Whites, rolling back advancements in racial equality and returning to the days of Jim Crow.
Commendable though Chris Rufo's activism may be, I didn't get much out of this convo. Coleman is a much more sophisticated thinker.
This convo:
Coleman: makes nuance point*
Chris: *agrees*
To each, their own. I deeply respect the intellects of both of these men, and I think it's important to recognize that they work in overlapping but somewhat different domains; Chris Rufo in idea _gathering,_ and _synthesis into film,_ and Coleman Hughes in philosophy and intellectual dialectic. I don't know if Chris would be able to write a cogent book of philosophy, and I don't know if Coleman would be able to easily put together a documentary. It's also worth noting that it's easier for an interviewer to sound like a "more sophisticated thinker" by dint of them having the questions they are going to ask already in their heads (and their follow-up thoughts sorted-out). Being interviewed -- even by a benign interviewer -- always puts a person a bit off-balance. I've seen even the sharpest minds (Sam Harris, et al) become a little disjointed due to the format.
Rufo brings some important additional focus to this issue!
“Most people wouldn’t object to…” Slippery slope
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull CRT was lifted from Mao’s Little Red Book. Cultural Revolution, indeed!
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement was founded by a White Supremacist Neo-Nazi who just released a video claiming Jews opposing White Supremacy are communists.
@@charliewatts6007 Really? And how come a white corporate consultant gets to exploit her own racism for HUGE $$$$$, and she (DiAngelo) hasn’t given any of her ill-gotten gains toward reparations???
@@lindaalbertano9512 -- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement sprang up in September of 2020 when White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis feared that systemic racism would be rooted out of police departments across the nation in the wake of the public outrage over the police murder of George Floyd by four members of the notoriously systematically racist Minneapolis Police Department.
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull And yet the real solution to racism is economic equality. If Bill Gates was a genuine philanthropist, he’d peel off millions of acres from his 250 million acre land grab across America, and give land to BIPOC to farm/own and inhabit. That would create generational wealth. And if government agencies were serious about racial equality, they would stop creating wars against the poor BIPOC of the world and stop rigging the system that feeds our poor BIPOC into a military machine that forces them to kill or be killed and brings thousands back with PTSD and physical disabilities. BLM needs to extend beyond our borders because our foreign policy has come home to bite us!!
The civil rights act didn't instantly eliminate discrimination and prejudice. The whole society was built on the bedrock of inequality, it's going to take a long time for the institutions to rid their 'habits of discrimination.' That being said, CRT as it relates to how American society operated IN THE PAST seems justified. All Countries HAD this mentality for centuries (to protect themselves from invasion), so it should be taught in HISTORY CLASS. The issue with CRT is that it's convinced ALL members of 'insert race here' have certain qualities (victim, oppressor). That aspect of CRT is complete bullshit and should be done away with.
At 39:03 -> Racism as a form of honest tribal xenophobia (due to habits established by a racist society) would in 1964 need to be expressed indirectly to survive. To this day, it's obvious to me most racism experienced by minorities in democratic societies is mostly expressed indirectly (loans, housing, job employment). Old habits die hard, but shit is getting better in my opinion.
If it’s not written into law or policy, discrimination is an individual act and should be dealt with as such. Blaming systems is lazy. How many more decades will we keep scapegoating racism for?
-- Everything Coleman Hughes, Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay say about CRT is White Supremacist Neo-Nazi Anti-CRT bullshit.
Thanks for this.
44:30- unfortunately slavery has been an ugly part of human history for thousands of years, and STILL persists throughout the World even today - with the highest prevalence being in Africa !
Before succumbing to pangs of “White Guilt” let’s consider this…..
Wasn’t it rival African kingdoms/tribes who sold the Africans they conquered to the Europeans, Arabs and Ottomans ?
Why don’t we demand reparations from these nations as well ? (Not that this undermines the horrific tragedy of Slavery in the Americas).
And also, why don’t we focus on fighting modern day slavery with equal vigor ?
If I have to feel guilty about anything, it’s not because I’m White but because I’m HUMAN ! How our species has abused one another, along with other species and the planet.
No one race has a monopoly on evil, no more than one has on virtue.
ATTENTION EVERYONE: Please remember that "Critical Race Applied Principles" = C.R.A.P . Thank you for your time!
@Vincent H. you caught me!
@@TheDisccity Any time my friend! Never forget I am just a milk toast fence sitter.
Y'all need to do a little studying on the subject.
@@teekaybe4016 Leave that to Tim Poole. He’s such an idiot though.
This is an understatement. An ideology that there is no objective truth but everything is race- based (such things as objectivity itself being "white"), this is akin to what Naziism says. It's not just crap, it's toxic as hell.
Education only ever should orient towards learning how to think not what to think. Being exposed to many ideas including Marx and Engels critique of Capitalism is the only way to instil creativity in a rigid fear ridden époque. Control of the masses has become the motivation and fear of ideas that could overthrow the vested interests rusted on regardless of the immenent threat of extinction. CRT in the workplace and schools just seems to be spawning a new niche in the market. People are being paid to indoctrinate and create new division to perpetuate their existence and the originators of the doctrine are the new priests setting the world down the path to righteousness. There is no left wing right wing only those for freedom and those for control.
Marx and Engels were wrong. It’s unfortunate, because their ideas sometimes sound workable, but the top down control required to implement and sustain their economic vision has nothing to do with freedom and, in fact, requires brutal tyranny.
@Samuel Hoadley-Brill if CRT is not an extremist cult, why do you keep repeating your name-calling dogma rather than consider and address the points of ppl who have different thoughts, serious concerns and honest beliefs of their own.
Re falsely accusing Robert Lindsay of White Supremacy - unless you can provide evidence of this very serious accusation it's just more nasty name-calling.
A religion or ideology that doesn't respect any truth but its own or the Golden Rule (ie do as you would be done by), which seeks to overthrow the status quo with no clear workable goal at the end except a belief that somehow it will be utopia (despite many false failed cults in history); which does not seek to win hearts and minds of those who are sceptical let alone severely critical YET claims the way, the truth and the light is CRT. No thank you.
@@moodyonroody5313 -- One of the key tenets of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement is the belief that race is biologically real. According to James Lindsay, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
45:00 There's a possible chilling effect between outlawing the instruction that someone "should" feel something, and "merely" teaching material likely to have that effect, especially if taught while underlining that this group or that group of miscreants embody their skin colour.
my company based in Bloomington MN is starting Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, as well as hiring as a consultant to advise on this.
Duck dancing for masa
I appreciate the conversation. I'm curious about the framing of the US as " nation with ugly stains on its history." How is the US unique in this way that it needs to be stated as such?
I think the wording of the TN bill was great. I had some issues with Florida's. Those are the two I've read.
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull That's nonsense. CRT is a very specific ideology and academic approach to the study of racism, specifically systemic racism. There are many people against racism and white supremacy who also have issues with CRT, (on both the left and right of the political aisle) particularly the sort of language that's making it's way into classrooms, because that language is very racist.
I'm not against the goals of college level CRT that is evaluating the racial disparities caused by the law and other systems. That's fine and necessary. We need academic assessment and discussion of racial issues. But CRT blurs the line between academic study and activism, which causes many problems.
I got to read Arizona's restrictions this week, and they're also very well worded. They in no way ban teaching history. They just ban blunt racial blaming. You can definitely establish and discuss racism and racial disparities by examples in a history class. What you can't do is tell a 5 year old that he holds the blame for the actions of his ancestors.
Neither AZ or TN even mention CRT in their restrictions.
Florida's language is a bit more open to bad interpretation, so I'd be fine with people challenging the Florida bill.
CRT has been controversial for decades. The reasons are far, far more complex than "white supremacy".
I like and support the general aim of studying the system, and critiquing it so we can improve it. And there is some very useful terminology and concepts that have come out of CRT. I'm certainly not going to condemn it as all bad, but it's not all good either. There is some toxic ideology that has woven into or emerged from it. I would love to see it go through some honest scrutiny and reform.
Theory of Enchantment by Chloe Valdary should be more widely known.
The fact that we are having to invest so many calories in these asinine conversations is indicative of the fact that we've already lost. Even if we course correct, we will already be subjugated to China by that time
wokie: "we're not a cult but you can commit spirit murder"
Lmao @ wokie
-- For the record, it was White Supremacist U. S. Senator Tom Cotton who first said, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
Christopher Rufo took Cotton's statement and lied that it's a tenet of critical race theory.
@@derrickbell24 stop spamming. Rufo is not talking about literal tenets of CRT but its application in that regard.
@@AlexADalton -- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
@@frederickdouglass383 I am a follower of Samuel Hoadley-Brill and I like a lot of what he says on race issues. He is extremely critical of some of the nonsense spouted by Kendi and DiAngelo for instance. However, having read his critiques of Rufo, they are extremely weak. CRT, as practiced in schools in the manner Rufo has exposed, is horrifying. As a theory, it is problematic to begin with and has many errors, but I have no issues with it being taught at the college level. The principles that have been distilled from it, and are being forced on children, are the epitome of racism though.
I am a huge Coleman fan, but he jumped the shark on this one. Rufo is skilled at CRT as a Rorschach inkblot by which one can project their culture-war angst. At almost no part in the discussion was there an accurate discussion of CRT. it is not woke woman’s studies, white fragility, anti-racism, or whatever distraction Rufo uses to promote his conservatism. Stream his Hillsdale University lecture, and you might better realize his mastery of CRT moral panic diversion.
It's actually about all that stuff. Tell me you aren't familiar with any CRT literature without telling me you arent familiar with any CRT literature lol
Coleman, when you started talking about a conference you went to in 2012 when you were “a junior in high school or something” you made me feel like a fossil. You were literally an infant when I was graduating from college. Damn.
He still could pass for a high schooler or certainly college.
-- One of the key tenets of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement is the belief that race is biologically real. According to James Lindsay, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
-- "Who started the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
Two of the key figures in the founding of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo.
"What does the Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology teach?"
Based on comments I've see posted by some supporters of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement on social media, one of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
"What is the goal of Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement appear to include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
@@derrickbell24 So you took my advice and switched sockpuppets, "Vivian". At least shows micro-adaptability. A long ways to go before you join the HUMAN race though.
I’d like to be on your podcast explaining how I went from feminism power who started to pay attention and see the truth!
Did you write any books or have anything of value to say based on years of extensive research? He's not going to have any random person on.
Also, did you start waking up to how patriarchy is all around us? If not then you didn't actually wake up.
Rufo.... Rufo.... RufoOOOOOOO!!!
Should I be reading this like it’s said by Dustin Hoffman in Pan? Because I’m enjoying doing exactly that.
@@Norrieification Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
After Rufo talked with Trump and Trump banned CRT in federal agencies (or something like that), the project was infected with Trump cooties. Must be bad. Right then, I started encountering the meme that "they don't want our children to learn their real history ." People bought into that, even though state standards include slavery, Jim Crow, etc. I just retired from teaching fourth grade Virginia Studies a few miles from the Capital of the Confederacy. Students included descendants of slaves and Confederate re-enactors. I made it as vivid as possible and got no complaints. I assume other teachers did the same.
33:50 - exactly what I was thinking.
If CRT is based on scientific/historical FACT (like Evolution), then shouldn’t it be taught in schools ? If not, then shouldn’t it be dismissed along with Creationism and Flat Earth Theory ?
Having said this, should we ban any idea no matter how untrue (or divisive) - what about freedom of speech ?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to openly discuss these bad ideas, to expose how erroneous they are, in order to win supporters over to one’s side ? And also to prevent one’s opponents from playing the victim card because they feel they are being excluded ?
eg: Creationists feeling victimized by proponents of Evolution, because they are forbidden to teach Creationism in the science class. In this case, relegate it to religious studies where their Judeo-Christian myths can be compared to the creation myths of other faiths.
Likewise with with CRT in social studies, where it can be compared to the teachings and virtues of the Civil Rights Movement.
Banning something only makes it more tantalizing.
One major problem.......CRT openly rejects both Enlightenment 'Rationalism', and empirical evidence, (the basis of Scientific method!), as oppressive tools of the White Male patriarchy!
So how do you 'reason' with opponents who reject reason as, well 'reasonable' way to progress ideas??
You miss the point. The CRT proponents aren't interested in discussion. They're interested in indoctrinating children.
In regards to something like a marketplace-of-ideas theory, it is simply untrue that such a market exists or could exist
It relies on the underlying assumption that humans are rational creatures and capable of considering ideas in a completely rational and logical way
But this assumption is unfounded; there are actually many narrative tools that bypass rational-thinking and directly activate the limbic system. When this happens humans tend to ignore what might be erroneous, and pick the ideas that give them satisfaction
The whole industry of Marketing is built around the fact that such narrative tools exist :x
Moreover, children are exponentially more vulnerable to these narrative tools than adults :x
You two kinda look alike, weirdly enough. 🤔
Not nearly as much as you look like the President of El Salvador, though! 😆😜
-- The Anti-Critical Race Theory movement, known as (Anti-CRT) or (Anti-Crits), seeks to revive and reinstate the racist Nazi ideology. The movement sprang up in September of 2020 when White Supremacists feared racial equality was advancing in the wake of the outrage over the police murder of George Floyd by four members of the notorious systemically racist Minneapolis Police Department.
The Ant--Critical Race Theory movement holds that race is biologically real, the White race is a superior race and teaches White kids to hate all non-Whites. Anti-Crits oppose CRT because CRT teaches kids that race is not biologically real, it is a social construct. Therefore, there is no reason to hate members of another race.
Christopher Rufo is one of the disgusting despicable leaders of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement, known as (Anti-CRT) or (Anti-Crits), seeking to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. The Anti-Crits wants K-12 students to be taught that race is biologically real and that the Western European race is superior to the other races. The Anti-Crits wants K-12 students to be taught that slavery was good for the African race because slavery is ordained of God.
“Critical race theory teaches that the White race is not superior to the other races”, Rufo said in an interview in May of 2020, “and race equality has become, in essence, the default ideology of the federal bureaucracy and is now being weaponized against White Supremist America. White Supremacy must defend itself.”
Another Anti-Crit leader, the openly racist U. S. Senator John Neely Kennedy of Louisiana, went on Fox News in June of this year to proudly proclaim that, "the primary reason that America was founded was to maintain White supremacy. Not freedom, not rule of law, not equal opportunity, not personal responsibility, but White supremacy." He went on to say that he was proud that "Americans are racist and they don't much like Black people."
In Texas, Anti-Crits want to punish students for "civic engagement."
Another Anti-Crit leader, James Lindsay, is a staunch defender of White Supremacy.
I was gonna write that and then found your comment!
Coleman , it's being taught in classes in classrooms . It is purported the desirability of teaching it from kindergarden though college . It teaches that white students are inherently racist through a rigid ideological method ... Making someone feel uncomfortable is not the problem ...
-- Everything Coleman Hughes, Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay say about CRT is White Supremacist Neo-Nazi Anti-CRT bullshit.
That was great and too short
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
This should be on your Critical Race Theory playlist. I have put it on mine.
It has also invaded medicine as a condition of reimbirsement from insurance. My husband, board certified in Internal Medicine and Pediatrics, had to undergo implicit bias training and pass testing or recieve lower reimbursement for services rendered (always the goal for insurance companies). This despite believing in and adhering to the oath he took at graduation that he would treat all patients equally regardless of any physical, mental, or philosophical differences.
That’s insane.
This report is shocking.
Well it was more important to remind everyone who their president was, instead of vouchers and parent choice, so of course we got CRT.
When they had a majority and people on the left like Coleman and people in the inner city, and libertarians were amenable to the position. Could have been bolstered too by traditional apprenticeship, tax rebates for private school, and traditional phonics. Might not be a good thing to condemn all intellectual discourse outside right wing positivism and say we just need welders and workers. My money says that’s part of the reason we cut ourselves out of the intellectual discourse and allowed the radicals to take over academia, and it would be better to have welders who understand philosophy instead of a binary “we need welders NOT philosophers” from Marco Rubio, or “I don’t want thinkers, artists, and philosophers. I want workers” from Rockefeller.
As if it takes 12 years of bad education, and indoctrination, to make a worker. It takes 3 days to three months and the need for a paycheck. It takes twelve years to make a humanities disconnected servant who will not leave these jobs at a ten percent higher rate, and start small entrepreneurial endeavors, leading to a few more medium to large companies and one or two more blue chips competing with these people. It takes twelve years to make someone like this, giving up a third of their income, paying inflation that requires $530,000+ to offset dollar destruction to 30 years of savings on a 50k a year job, who then protects his masters and calls it “free market capitalism” with Sean Hannity and the late Rush Limbaugh’s nicotine stained fingers as “advanced conservative studies” but declines to read Roger Scruton and Thomas Sowell, who you will likely get a better education on from Coleman Hughes than Fox News or talk radio. And then we’re just so surprised when global corporatism pushes wokeness to transcend our rights, education, and nation.
@@derrickbell24 No. False equivalence, and so many legitimate facts and nuanced discourse debunks that all or nothing position.
@@Ac-ip5hd -- "Who started the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
Two of the key figures in the founding of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo.
"What does the Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology teach?"
Based on comments I've see posted by some supporters of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement on social media, one of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
@@Ac-ip5hd -- "Who started the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
Two of the key figures in the founding of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo.
"What does the Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology teach?"
Based on comments I've see posted by some supporters of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement on social media, one of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
"What is the goal of Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement appear to include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
@@derrickbell24 Your entire premise that everyone against CRT has the same views and is the same movement is false. Done responding to your nominalistic garbage. You mat repeat it. No one buys it.
Did you really post twice as Derrick Bell, then change your extra troll account to Samantha fish while saying the same exact thing like a robot? I’m glad your propaganda troll game is so weak, and seriously hope you’re being paid, because it would be really sad if this is volunteer work.
Just fyi, I use this to introduce CRT to people who are curious about it
The interviewer did not use the example of Rwanda to balance his viewpoint; he used us slavery and the holocost. and balanced examples would have made his statement clearer. All groups historically have done things to be ashamed of; so always be balanced.in statements referring to an emotive subjects
The very best article for balance is the third chapter if Thomas Sowell's book "Black Rednecks White Liberals". The name of the chapter is "The Real History of Slavery". It should be taught in every world history class. A very short version of it can be found in a Candice Owen Prager U video about slavery.
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
-- "Who started the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
Two of the key figures in the founding of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo.
"What does the Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology teach?"
Based on comments I've see posted by some supporters of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement on social media, one of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
"What is the goal of Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement appear to include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
Saying Chris Rufo is responsible for slavery is like saying Coleman Hughes is responsible for carjackings.
Rufo is responsible for the car jackings too because ... white supremacy.
@@_STNML LMAO!!!!
"What ideas do we want to ban?" Now that's about as submissive to totalitarianism as it comes...
anti fa, communism, blm, crt?
You don't ban the ideas you ban the SHOULDs behind ideas that override or negate objectivity.
And when relaying facts, ensure you provide the best arguments from both sides.
-- One of the key tenets of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement is the belief that race is biologically real. According to James Lindsay, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
@@vivianchou1922 That's an anti truth. Not only is it a lie, it's a lie COMPLTELY opposite of what is true.
You miss quoted him. He said that's what the critical theory people believe, and he's appalled by it. He's completely against defining people just by their race.
James takes the classical liberal way of defining people individually and based on merit. Race is an aspect, but so is height, weight, intelligence, hair color, freckles, many many many aspects of personality and culture, and so much more that are frankly 99.999% of the time FAR more important than race.
-- Two of the key figures in the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo. One of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
This is not to anger anyone, because I am thoroughly enjoying this program. However, I don't see the problem. Children in my family has been taught to accept people of different sexual orientations. I don't understand, why anytime we try to teach people to accept people with different skin color, it is such a big deal.
Are you actually enjoying and listening? It's Because that's not the sum total of what CRT teaches. There's a lot of toxic and frankly, made up shit that's loaded onto it and it's essentially the opposite of what the civil rights movement was about.
The focus should be on truth, not on arguing simply to win. Certainly, in the interest of truth, all people should be taught what actually happened in history, including the realities of human slavery. However, people need to understand that Critical Race Theory stems from a broader philosophy, Critical Theory, which was devised by Marxists in Germany. Marx developed the framework for Communism. Marx believed in labeling and pitting "oppressors" and "oppressed" against one another. Communism uses crises such as civil wars as leverage to inject itself and take control of societies. It is an evil, insidious system. As such, Marxist ideologies will only serve to open old societal wounds which were nearly healed, creating social divisiveness and disunity, weakening the nation, making it ready for domination. This is part of a plan of subversion to destroy the nation from within, and those who follow these theories are being used as pawns to further the goal.
-- For the record, it was White Supremacist U. S. Senator Tom Cotton who first said, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
Christopher Rufo took Cotton's statement and lied that it's a tenet of critical race theory.
You’ve taken a narrow view of CRT and created a straw man argument. Collective guilt and essentialism are counter to basic CRT. Please read Derrick Bell’s seminal work. Racially segregated training is not standard to CRT. So you’re discussing a narrow segment and exception to how CRT has been presented in this podcast. Frankly, I’m disappointed in the shallow scholarship cited by your guest. I expect better from you. Essentially, this is merely confirmation bias.
so white fragility book is straw man? I don't like that book either
@@johnstewart7025 -yes
@@johnmoyer99 Maybe you can't control the evolution of the academic theory. Maybe the founding principles of CRT should be more popular.
Derek Bell created a baby and it’s grown into a beast. Whether the modern iteration it exactly as he would prefer, here we are dealing with the current reality. Merely interesting at this point that Derek and Kimberlee Crenshaw may disapprove of some of the current tactics in disseminating the overall fundamental principles they originally outlined.
Coleman knows what CRT is. It may have something important to say about the law. How it’s applied by people who have picked it up and ran with it is terrible. Marxism may be a complex economic theory but it turns to totalitarian shite in practice. The CRT phenomenon is very similar.
Coleman supported Biden- not as bright as I thought he was - we all knew this is what Biden would be pushing - Coleman didn’t like mean tweets - lol
Praying people start suing!
If a race should feel guilty for racism, all races should so in turn none should. Even saying out loud "should white people feel guilty for slavery" hurts our way forward. Posing it as a question doesn't retract from the gravity of this incorrect path.
the Manchurian candidate or "guilt tripping" aspect of the white diversity trainings is overkill. However, where racism exists, it should be pointed out. Action should be taken where it is possible.
I hate to be all Ben Shapiro, but facts don't care about feelings.
@@thomasreaves588 This is true. They don’t care about Ben Shapiro’s feelings either, of course. :-)
Nice dialogue, but unfortunately the show notes are sub-standard.
I believe the New Yorker piece reference is _How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory_ - 18 June 2021
Apart from some snarky asides, this lays out much of the history in considerable detail.
_Conservatives in state legislatures across the country have proposed (and, in some cases, passed) legislation banning or restricting critical-race-theory instruction or seminars; Rufo has advised on the language for more than ten bills._
For my money, precisely how Rufo shaped this legislation should be central meat of the discussion here, but I fear the rest of the episode will only scratch the surface.
The NYT piece seems to be _We Disagree on a Lot of Things. Except the Danger of Anti-Critical-Race-Theory Laws._ - 5 July 2021
A passing thought as I skimmed this was to wonder if we could have instead simply defined race essentialism as hate speech, and be done with this at that level, without inviting the far right to take another dip into the sausage machine of dubious legislation. Note that for myself, I include white privilege and white fragility (in some guises) as straying across the line into race essentialism.
Why do I not believe any of the outlandish anecdotes Mr. Rufo puts forward here?
Because your head is up your backside?
You should do an episode on the lost cause. Its an equally reprehensible ideology on the other side.
Good analysis by the guest: CRT is a THEORY, it can change. What is problematic is applying CRT to ENGINEER society😢 where its people are conservative and their values, beliefs and norms can nit be changed. If they believe they are a superior human race, and the socio-economic outcomes are supportive of that view then you cannot suggest to such people otherwise. What is needed is equilization of circumstances or inputs: if one group gets welfare money or GI money, covid relief, farm subsidies, bail out money then all other groups shud b given. Immediately you deny one group such free money you are creating different outcomes
Coleman: You point out correctly, IMHO, that the law ought not to prohibit teacher educational speech because it might make individual them.student subjectively feel guilty but may prohibit speech that tells student they individually “should” or “ought” to feel guilty. How then can you say that teacher speech which educates student as to reality of racial “group disparity” in IQ (or any other dispart result of racial group comparison; I.e. physicality, etc) should be suppressed to prevent individual subjective negative self-image of children? Isn’t the keystone that we need to pursue what is true-Murray’s point & Ruffo’s as I understand their position.
Oh Wow!
Coleman compares the CRT in school debate to creationism, does he know that Rufo has worked at the Discovery Institute, an organization dedicated to legitimizing creationism as a science?
Wow looking this up now. Fascinating.
The comparison works regardless but it is funny. I like to compare it to Scientology.
@@Individual_Lives_Matter it's just funny how Rufo would actually be on the other side of the debate when it comes to creationism, I feel like Coleman would care
-- The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement led by Christopher Rufo and James Lindsay include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
@derrickbell interesting to see you back from the dead 🙄
We have successfully frozen their brand - “critical race theory”- into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category. The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think “critical race theory.” We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.
Christopher Ruffo on March 15, 2021.
Should we ignore that? Or maybe question him on his tweet?
It's called deconstruction and it is a common tactic of the political left, good for the right that they are finally punching back.
Ideology is for those who refuse to think
Absolutely love your content Coleman but hate the reaction thumbnails.
-- For the record, it was White Supremacist U. S. Senator Tom Cotton who first said, "the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race."
Christopher Rufo took Cotton's statement and lied that it's a tenet of critical race theory.
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
Does Coleman ever express an emotion? Ever smile or laugh? Dude seems like a robot.
What does feeling guilty about what was done in the past history have anything to do with teaching actual history?
I think the law has to take into account "passive aggressive truth claims" and compare that to free speech. If that's provable in court then isn't that proof of tribalism/group philosophy taking away individual rights. Pretending something is true via Praxis, and not stating that one is engaged in Praxis is how CRT people are fighting for CRT.
-- Christopher Rufo is justifiably credited with founding the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement. Before you buy into Christopher Rufo's claims about Critical Race Theory, I respectfully suggest you read this scholarly critique of Rufo by Samuel Hoadley-Brill, a PhD student at City University of New York, who bills himself as a "Philosophicaller of bullshit."
@Victoria Claflin Woodhull You're lying outright. You can make up all the reasons you want, but that's not the reason. Truth is under attack when free speech is taken away.
57:55
Just FYI.
Berkley Uni recieves $850 Millions in Subsidies from just Federal Government.
Overall subsidies/donations are around 1.2 Billion Dollars.
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That is just amazing (form March 12, 2020)
"The Big Give is only one part of a much, much larger effort to raise money. Berkeley recently announced its new Capital Campaign, with a goal of raising an astounding $6 billion by the end of 2023."
I love you!
@@derrickbell24
Are you on the Left or Right?
It's hard to say.
Christopher Ruffo is married to Thai Woman & not some submissive "slave".
She is a IT Developer.
She was probably making more money than him.
And they have mix race kids.
And he gets attacked by the Right & Left.
So what you said is bullcrap.
Even Lindsay (not sure about his Family) but the dude is PhD in Math & Physics.
He is a White Nationalist?
Dude get real & get a life.
@@derrickbell24
Btw, I am applying for RUclips API.
If you are posting, I should be able to get your Mac & IP.
Let's see what the information we will get.
@@bestdjaf7499 -- "Who started the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
Two of the key figures in the founding of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement are James Lindsay and Christopher Rufo.
"What does the Anti-Critical Race Theory ideology teach?"
Based on comments I've see posted by some supporters of the Anti-Critical Race Theory movement on social media, one of the White supremacist doctrines of the movement is that race is biologically real. Anti-Critical Race Theory teaches that the most important thing about you is your race. The color of your skin. That's who you are. Not your behavior. Not your values. Not your environment. Your race.
"What is the goal of Anti-Critical Race Theory movement?"
The goals of the White Supremacist Anti-Critical Race Theory movement appear to include:
Preservation of the current systemic racism that favors Whites.
The roll back of advancements in racial equality.
Restoration of Jim Crow.
@@derrickbell24
Dude from the beginning you are lying.
And it's easy to prove.
Just google Rufo & Lindsay.
The White Nationalist hate them.
Also Rufo has a mix race family!!
Are you implying that he wants to discriminate against his own kids & family??!?
That is crazy proposition.
Lindsay has PhD in Math & Physics.
Lindsay published across the Social Studies.
Lindsay is a higher achieving scholar than the majority of Professors you have met.
And if these people are now "Nazis", count me a Brown Immigrant in.
And who are you?
Do you get a grade for "activism" online?
I have more degrees & Brown Immigrant.
You want to talk about CRT?
You should stfu & listen.
Everyone is better than you are in the group you are attacking.
Didn't Derek Bell want want the ideas behind critical race theory to mainly be used to reform and improve our Justice system?
Private companies should be able to hire / not hire for any reason they want.
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There is a bigger problem in American schools in that we don't learn history. Going to school in the north, we hardly were taught anything about the Civil War and what we learned about WW2 was that it was all about one person because America had so many war criminals working here. In addition we had many people helping the Germans, and many of the prototypes for German atrocities were created here. Most of our history is almost pure propaganda, the Daughters of the Confederacy "teach" a false narrative about states rights. Basically all history has a propagandist element to it because those running things see an advantage for themselves in people believing it.
Im at 40:00
come back later to finish
Only one criticism of this excellent talk and that is that if the history of slavery is taught in the isolation of American history, (which is tiny portion of the history of the world) white students might feel uncomfortable but, if taught within the context of the history of the world, (as is so eloquently written by Thomas Sowell in his book "Black Rednecks White Liberals" the third essay "The Real History of Slavery") no one race or group can be blamed for the institution of slavery. It seems that teaching the big picture is necessary in this case and should be included in American history as well as world history.
as thomas sowell said the coastal africans enslave the more isolated weaker interior africans