How to Tile a Bathroom Floor...Travertine Tile Over DITRA (Step-by-Step)
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Today you'll learn how to tile a bathroom floor. We share how to install DITRA and add travertine tiles over top it. You'll see priceless tips that help get even, flat, and beautiful tiles.
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Helpful Links:
T-lock leveling clips -- goo.gl/eeHxBC
Schluter Ditra (54 sft roll) -- amzn.to/2iTQVZP
Schluter Ditra (150 sqft roll) -- amzn.to/2Bqi5zo
KERDI-FIX Sealant -- amzn.to/2iUqDqr
KERDI-BAND (for seams) -- amzn.to/2hWlsWc
12" grout float -- amzn.to/2A7hX9C
1/2" x 1/2" trowel -- amzn.to/2hWmdP2
DITRA Trowel (to embed) -- amzn.to/2hTb4OP
Milwaukee Angle Grinder -- amzn.to/2iSa4vc
Dewalt Diamond Blade -- goo.gl/mxm9mb
Bosch Hole Saw (1 3/8") -- amzn.to/2zs1NV9
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Step 1 is to check the subfloor is level. And to follow the directions for DITRA, e.g. look for joist spacing and subfloor construction.
Apply modified thin-set over the subfloor using a DITRA trowel. Then embed DITRA and flatten it using a rubber float.
Ensure there are no air pockets under the DITRA.
Seal the seams and tub transition using KERDI-BAND. This completely waterproofs the bathroom floor.
Fill all the DITRA waffles with unmodified thin-set then start the tiling at the tub.
In the video you'll see us scribe cut the tiles to the tub since there's a slight curve at the tub base. Use an angle grinder with a diamond blade to do this.
T-Lock's tile leveling system is a great way to ensure tiles are flat and grout joints are even.
Absolutely fantastic. Lot of info in a short video. Everything I needed without the stuff I don’t.
Seems to contradict one of your earlier vids which said fill waffles up and leave overnight before tiling.
I like the t-lock system. The stone placement looks great. Great video
Thanks John
Awesome job, hope I can do my job even half as fast/well! Thanks dd
Steve tiled himself into a corner, 😀. T-lock is a great system.
+Sal DiBlasi lol, he did but somehow got out!
Just kidding, lol
+Sal DiBlasi haha, I knew you were 😉
Forgot to say, good video.
+Sal DiBlasi thank you
great video guys, love the look of the different colors from tile to tile
+460 S&W there's a lot of variation, we pulled some tiles afterward to have a better final look
Your logic and advice is excellent. I'm pretty much planning the same setup with only a couple of feet larger each way. What I wanted to figure out is whether or not the ditra can be free floating rather than bonding it to the subfloor. I've seen horror stories when it has to be removed.
thank you, Ditra has to be bonded to the wood subfloor with modified thin-set. If the tile floor needs to be removed for cosmetic reasons the next person will likely have to cut through the grout joints and through the subfloor then remove small sections.
@@HomeRepairTutor TU. In my way of thinking I figure the weight and fairly locked in floor(caulking at edges, toilet & trim) no movement would be the norm. Didn't want 2 be one of those guys who leaves the next guy a harder task when they decide to remodel.
@@j.morrison73 totally understand, but Ditra isn't designed to float over the floor. The weight of tile may not be sufficient to keep both the tile and Ditra tight to the floor. So you might see cracking in the grout and the floor won't be waterproof, which is very important in bathrooms.
@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks. I trust your opinion and will take your advice. I'm only a DIY'er , that's why I look over what the pro's on youtube advise.
So what do you use for high polished marble so it wont scratch to do the lock thing?
He is a hard worker
Steve is a very hard worker. This bathroom is in a house that he's remodeling. He redid everything himself and is almost done.
Steve the future
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Steve the past
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Nice job.
I know it's been a long time, but I hope you'll see this question: Do you do anything along the tub AFTER laying all the tile? I've got a similar job, and I'm concerned that it would look rough or unfinished if I don't do something there (like grout or caulk or both?)
Add 100% silicone, that joint should be 1/16” to 1/8” max
The other videos had Cardi bands around the wall's edge. This one only had it at the seam between the pieces of DITRA. What is your recommendation for a small bathroom with shower and toilet?
I would like to see a video on cove base tile set level with floor tile (not the above version).
+TurboFlush good suggestion
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I cant find any good instruction on these tiles. Found an old video on youtube. About it.
Will have mine done by the time you post a vid. Unf.
Love your channel! It gives me the push I needed to do my bathroom myself. I have a question and I did not know where to post it though: can u lay smart core vinyl locking tiles in the bathroom? I thought would be nice not using and adhesive so I can change it easier if don’t like the look. Thanks for al the info u bring out on RUclips!
Great question, we stick with a waterproof isolation membrane like Ditra then tile over top because water is a problem in bathrooms. The last thing you want is an unknown water problem that degrades structural integrity. Water leaks are prevalent at the tub to floor transition, same for curbed showers. So we’d recommend tile over vinyl for that reason. What kind of project are you planning?
I am planning on doing a total (small) bathroom remodel, because the subfloor around the toilet was rotted and leaked into the basement. I am busy getting the floor out etc. and I just finished watching your video about removing bathtub and surround because I need to do that too. But before I get down to the real business I will watch your channel a whole lot! Thanks for your answer I will stick with tile now. 😀
Let us know if you have any questions during this phase. We also have great videos over on Bathroom Repair Tutor.
I am planning on using your video’s every step I take so thanks for al those video’s
I apologize if the video explained it, but I missed it:
On your excellent video about installing Ditra Parts 1 and 2, you mentioned about filling in the waffers with mortar [very important] -- and that can be done the day before installing the tile (especially due to the time challenges of trying to do both on the same day.
In this video, you're doing both on the sane day. You're 'da man!!!
Mine will be a small bathroom floor too (just 5' x 4'), but I've never tiled before. It will be 0.375" thick, 2"x12" marble tiles. Can I fill in the waffers the day before, as shown in your Ditra Part-1 video? Or, is it better [or necessary for real stone like Marble or your Travertine] to do it all on the same day?
Typo: the tiles will be 12" x 12" [not 2"x12"]
I have been watching allot of your videos :) had some questions. One is, after he breaks those clips off, does he put grout in between the tiles? or is it basically done and you don't have to put anything else in between the tiles? The other question doesn't relate to this actual video but I'm going to be adding a bath tube to what is now a walk in shower .. i haven't found any videos showing this. Just wondering if you have any videos tut converting a walk in shower to a shower and bathtub? Anyways THANK YOU BOTH for putting these all together and spending the time to help show and teach others definitely has made me feel more confident in understanding and doing some stuff.
Very educatianal video. I never saw that here (Belgium), that T-lock system ? Is that common in the US ?
+antraciet yes, it's available here in the US and Canada. We've been impressed and use it exclusively on a lot of projects.
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Shouldn't you notch out the door casing/molding so the tile goes under it?
+Screaminpotato yes, that's the preferred method
What is the product you put on the back of the tile to lay them on the floor? And what grout do you recommend?
Great video, I want to put ecoprime and ditra heat over 2x2 inch existing tiles. They are well bonded for 35 years, and almost impossible to remove. what would you use for morter? Modified, or unmodified ?
I noticed you use the flat-edge of the trowel to back-butter the tile. I've also seen you use the notched side of the trowel in some videos. What is the reason for that? Thanks
We just bought our first home outright and our vintage bathroom needs a makeover. It’s got a vintage basin and a vintage deep + high sides bath with vintage large Round shower head .
It has a yucky green wall where shower / Bath is that needs a new beginning + the rest is a white tile with a black n white checker Lino floor + has 1 Window that opens at the top n bottom but we can’t open the window ( we tried paint stripper, WD40 eg degreaser, bleach) any suggestions would be great. I want the theme to be. Country Beach
Sounds like a great bathroom, and it has lots of potential. Send me some pictures and we'll figure it out jeff@homerepairtutor.com
Good evening . nice video. I have a question How long does it take to get cured the adhesive between ditra and the tiles? I seems takes longer. If it is a normal concrete wall usually 24 hours is enough
I have user Mapei ultimate showerproof.
I will have Ditra running the whole length of the floor, then the walk-in shower base [a single unit without seams] will be put down on top of the back half of the Ditra'ed floor. I won't get into the logistics of how and why this will work, but ...
Since the Ditra will be running under the shower, do I still need to do the line of Kerdi-Fix Caulk and then tape against where the shower curb and the tiled floor will end up meeting? I kind'a think -- in my case -- it would be unnecessary. I realize it is necessary if [as in usual circumstances] the Ditra would end 1/4" from the shower curb or tub wall. Yes, in my case, the Ditra actually extends under the shower curb and the whole floor walk-to-wsll will be Ditra taped even before my special-condition shower floor/pan unit is installed.
Insightful, cheers.
how does that go in the shower area? any recent pics of that bathroom?
Was there something used to waterproof the gap between the toilet flange and the Ditra?
No level was hurted in the making of this video!, that man was busy escaping from the corner he tiled himself to = no respect!
I have to replace the tile that was in the bathroom. It was 12x24 from the tub wall to a full roll beyond the tub. Then it was 8x8 out to the exit. It was also 12x24 at the rt wall under the sink .Can you put 12x24 in the front wall as you look into the bathroom. 3 rolls side by side. Then 2 rolls at the rt. wall side by side for two rolls. Then fill in the rest of the bathroom with 8X8. Can I use T-locks . Should I use T-locks on both sizes, only 12x24 or neither. They had 3 different sizes in this bathroom.
Do you ever have problems removing the part of the T-lock that is proud to the tile? I assume that the horizontal part of the clip is left submerged and the vertical piece somehow snaps off? Or not??
You can kick the side of it with a boot or smack it with a mallet to break it off. The wedges are reusable.
the plastic bit that the wedge goes into is designed to break just under the grout line while the other plastic piece stays indefinitely, so a swift kick or light touch of a mallet and its gone.
What happens to the T lock spacers on the completed floor?
They are removed with a rubber mallet, hit them along the grout joint and they should snap off below the tile surface. It's best to do that the day after setting tile.
A tile man I met a whole back likes to put a thick layer of thin set on the back. I see that you are doing a thin layer. I'm sure either one is right. I guess he's just being overly thorough. Looks great though
What underlayment is under the ditra? 3/4” ply?
Lots of good stuff - Though I have concerns about Steve’s ( Heath and Safety ) no mask , no gloves , no goggles, no knee pads.
No doing these things reduces the longevity of work life
Can you use 100% silicone on the tub edge or does it have to be kerdi fix? Thank you.
What mortar was that? I cannot figure out the right mortar for the top of Ditra membranes.
Do you recommend the Schluter All Set thinset under the Detra and also for setting porcelin tile on top of the detra? If not what mortor do you recommend and where used?
Old post but yes, Allset does it all.
Oh, another thing I might have missed:
When laying tile, especially natural stone or even porcelain, one needs to leave a 1/4" gap around the perimeter walks [not necessarily against the tub or shower curb, but definitely against the walls].
For a small floor like this, you might be able to get away with less of a gap, but for any floor 8-feet or wider, one definitely needs a 1/4-inch gap around all the perimeter walls.
I going to be laying wood look tile on our upstairs hall bathroom. However, after taking up the tile that was there when we purchased the house we notice that their is a small hump width wise across the floor which makes the tile unleveled on either side if the tile is place across the lump which is unavoidable. Is there anyway to get a more level floor for tile installation without pulling up the wood subfloor (which I’m not comfortable with)?
Char, it might be easier to replace that section of subfloor than self-leveling the floor. I'd be curious to see what's under the subfloor, too. It' better to identify the problem rather than tile over it. How big is the hump and how high is it in relation to the rest of the subfloor?
It’s just under a 1/2 inch lower than the highest point. The declined starts in the middle of bathroom heading towards the bathroom door. We think the lump maybe on top of a joist.
@@charnellmarie are you planning to inspect it further?
I don’t know if we have the skills necessary for that but unsure who we should get to do it. We thought to take up the subfloor to confirm but it’s a continuous piece that goes under the bath/shower combo. Not sure what to do at this point. By the way I signed up for bathroom repair tutor on the 2nd of February.
This might be too late, but you could use a belt sander or a planer to take out that hump.
T-locks will not self level or correct lipage. Its just a tool. Still requires the installer to do the lipage work.
Great vid! Lots of good info.
+TurboFlush you're correct in that the floor should be level and the T-Lock should be viewed as a tool. It helps tremendously with large tiles that need tuning with each other and helps reduce lippage
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I just used another system similar. Very impressed. Does make a bit more work. But what i liked most was it "locks" the tiles while working on others to prevent accidental movement.
Def will do again but will probably use this tlock brand instead.
+TurboFlush we like T-Lock because the clips rarely break and the wedges can be reused. We've never encountered a wedge breaking. You're right, these systems keep the tile locked in position and allow for a better bond between the tiles and substrate.
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We have bumps and edges that can be felt underneath the ditra. There is no air though, is this okay?
What size spacers did Steve use in the project?
1/16" T-Lock Clips but it's always a personal preference
@@HomeRepairTutor Thanks for the reply. I am putting down the exact same tile and am trying to get away from a sanded grout. Awesome video as always!
@@jasonreist8145 we used Mapei Ultracolor Plus FA for that tile, highly recommend FA grout
Can you lay this tile without having a grout line?
+kayBTR 1/16" grout joints are reasonable and I'd have to look up what the Tile Council of North America states as the acceptable joint size, but we wouldn't recommend going without a joint. Is your concern maintenance?
@@HomeRepairTutor I notice old stone floors in old buildings in Europe don’t have grout line, they just butt up the tiles next to each other. Grout gets dirty and I don’t want to try to keep it clean. And grout came out of the seams when I had 1/16” grout lines. Thanks for your answer.
Do you drill the plywood underneath before you lay the ditra?
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You definitely should to prevent eventual squeaks; you also need to ensure plywood is thick enough.
Did you seal them tile before installing them? Or no need to?
If the tiles need to be sealed (not all of them do), do it after everything is done (inuding grout) it's much easier to clean and seal the entire surface at once
How do you remove the tee level spacers?
your using ditra different from your ditra videos. honestly does it matter if you grout the ditra before laying the tile?
By grout I assume you mean fill in the waffles with mortar? If that's the question, then yes it does matter. Schluter recommends filling in the waffles and this can be done either right before tiling or the night before.
Everything looked nice until you got to the door way, why didn't you cut under the door jam to make it look better? I have seen so many videos and everyone does something different and say that what was there was bad prior to their work. I'm just confused now.
I was sad to see him not undercut the jambs. Makes a great tile job look amateur.
You didn’t collapse the ridges when you set the tile.
I’ve got floorboards in my bathroom
Do you mean wood plank that runs over the joists?
Home Repair Tutor yes mate,,I’ve just moved house and in the bathroom it has Lino down and under that is floorboards,,all the upstairs in my house is floorboards
No problem, we like using Ditra over that. But it requires plywood on top of the boards. I’m blanking in the thickness they recommend, likely 3/4” but could be less. Ditra is only 1/8” thick
Home Repair Tutor have you got any videos to show me how plz
Resting that tile on the bath ?? not sure about that .
Kerdi fix isn't waterproof, so going against the tub joint with it is useless.
I'm using large tiles in my bathroom and my dad told me to be careful. I told him I'm using modern technology. I can appreciate tile work during communist times, but I'm an engineer so I don't have to do it hard way if I deem it unnecessary. As a matter of fact I deem it superior. I'm talking about the Ridgid Level Max and all the other variants.
You can use modern techniques without being disrespectful
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Worst caulking job ever lol
Hack work
how so?