E39 M5 is tops for me. Also like many of the Lambo wheels of the last 20 years though personally I drive Ferrari. Most cars these days, when I idly play with the car configurator on the website, lose my interest when it comes to wheel designs. Current BMW, Porsche, MB: I just don't see anything I like in the least.
Saab 9-5 , The final generation have these turbine looking wheels with like 20 different spokes all pointed in towards the middle. Literally looks like the inside of a jet engine. I want to buy one just to look at it and put it on my wall.
Carbon bonnet from Gurit Automotive, prototyped on the Isle of Wight... manufactured in Hungary. Produced by a great team that I am proud to have been part of.
@@richardbdop8741 Hi Richard , no we only did the bonnet.. . Inner moulding is press moulded, outer is hand laid...... bonded with a sika adhesive 2 part pu.... applied by a fanuc robot arm..... the adhesive is blue if you look in through the catch holes..they were primed with 2 layers of primer by robot too.. there is a gurit sticker up by the windscreen edge as I recall.... it was the last project I worked on before I left.... very stiff part... and uses the same adhesive for the perimeter hem as well as the antiflutter ... same kind of material went into Aston vanquish, 918 spyder and la ferrari....i worked on all of those too...cheers.
@@richardbdop8741 we did loads of good stuff back in the day..... I made the very first bonnet outer at the tool buy off in Canada...( tooling came from Weber industries Midland Ontario. I was a development engineer... alas Gurit are giving up on the car bits but we did do an amazing job between 2001 and 2016.. brought the technology much closer to being suitable for mass production... great days..As a long term alfa and lancia owner it was great for me to finish my time there on an Alfa.... I did the adhesive selection and testing on your hood! Have a look through the catch holes.... you will see it's blue... cheers
@@peterjennings8258 Yes! Just looked. Blue band of adhesive as you say. Also the Gurit," Made in Hungary" sticker which I had failed to notice previously. Thanks again. I love this sort of detail and insight.
Tech ages...look at the 80s old cool dashes and whatnot. Analog is more natural and is def more timeless. The less tech in a sports/sporty car the better. As an apliance like a camry or soemthing sure...have a screen or 2 who cares. Its disposable crap anyways lol.
Mad news from your Corsa but us mens with big seamens could you give you big gapes in the fastness of the race car in for the moment have been taken care you idiots
I own a giulia qv. After coming from an E92 M3, I must admit I did think it was a little quiet at first. I also thought slighter wider arches would have been great. After owning the car for a while though, I must say, I really love it. Its an absolute beast, but so liveable, and it really hooks you in. Chassis, steering and power delivery are really special. And it's such a stunning yet understated car.
@youremostwelcome I drive my qv in race mode 95 percent of the time with the gearbox set to manual mode. I use the paddles or the shifter itself to change. For a torque converter auto it's top notch. 95 percent as quick as a dct in race mode, but smoother. I would still rather a dct, but it is a very impressive set up and the ratios are bang on
i really appreciate that Harry used the magnet to indicate which part of the car was Steel vs Aluminum. Not many other car reviewers would think of that.
see- BMW drivers aren't assholes after all- they just don't use the turn signal because it is so hard to turn off 😂 (as a German though- I rarely see people not using turn signals around here- don't know where that meme originates from... people that actually do not indicate are 1. Bus drivers and 2. People with lots of "children on board" stickers on the rear window :)
Oli K Ahh not this myth again. Its the simplest operation possible. Gently tap for 3 blinks and a harder press for the usual function. Either way it will automatically cancel once the turn is complete. So I do not know where this myth comes from 🤷🏻♂️
10 months on. Do you still have it? How are you finding it? I'll have to settle for the Veloce, as I don't have 'fuck you money' (as the cool kids say) but I love the QV.
But they have the 4C for the crazy styling and exotic driving experience. This is a 4 door sedan that means you use it everyday, if they made it uncomfortable and too exciting I think many people wouldn’t buy it.
It is a 9/10 car that I had for 2 years. Broadly agree with everything Harry has said, but it really gets under your skin and it is reliable, so you do the miles and smile even more. If you ever get the chance to drive one, or even better own one, do it! 😁
I have a TI Sport, I’ve had it for about a year now. I’m in love, at the limit it’s like nothing else. You have to drive it hard to understand why everyone loves it.
@@NOrlando952 Agree with both of you! I also have a Ti Sport, and the car BEGS to be pushed a little bit. Sometimes wish I went for the QV, but realistically my ideal power plant would probably be a V6 around 350-375hp.
@@AlokSomani It's criminal that they never made a middle-power variant; even a hotter 4-cylinder would be great, but a single-turbo version of the 6 would be even better! Also bring back the Sport Carbon trim, please!
I struggle with the 'no feedback' comment. Ive driven one and loved it. Golf R has probably been the only other car that 'felt' this good. I'm sure there must be some high level cars that do this too, but in this budget? Drove a Stelvio QF last week, loved it but clearly heavier / bigger but still very good.
In the late 70's early 80's I had three Alfas. First a 69 Giulia with Weber carbs that was a hoot to drive but after putting in two head gaskets I had to let it go. Then a 72 Giulia with fuel injection that I drove from Vancouver to Toronto and back without a problem. Got 30mpg as well. Lastly a 2000 GTV that I loved but a drunk ran into the back and wrecked it. Sure wish I had that car today. Really enjoyed them all. Wish I could afford one of these new ones. Seems like a great resurgence for Alfa.
I’m a big fan of the Giulia Quadrifoglio - finally a decent and viable alternative to BMW and Mercedes offerings. Typically floored and quirky in an Italian way but still sets the benchmark for future performance Alfa’s. The rumoured Coupe version looks absolutely astonishing - but as always Alfa needs to see it to fruition whilst ironing out some of the saloons idiosyncrasies - Brilliant review as ever Harry!
Had 4 TVR's previously . My last car was an AR 145 quadrifoglio, which never let me down. Now I've got a Mito 1.4 turbo, which is pretty quick in dynamiqe. Very pleased with it . But quiet , not enough exhaust
@@emmajnation-emma and this one had the steel brakes. So another £5000 loses what 20Kg. (Though I would spec carbon brakes before carbon seats and spoilers.)
I agree with everything you say, except about the styling. I think they got it spot on, and I get admiring comments from people almost every day. Yes, it could be a little more communicative, but driven at 9/10ths it’s better than anything else with 4 doors
Had the pleasure of driving one, it is truly brilliant. Power is incredible and the smoothness is brilliant. Very refined but yet super powerful. A gem of a car and as always in Italian cars it puts a smile on your face.
when i was a kid, I had a 84 gtv6 which I purchased with 200k miles from the original owner, i spent hours and hours debating with fellow alfisti online, i had my "dream engine" specs written down, this cam, this stage head, etc etc..so my goal was to drive the 200k gtv6 blow the motor and have an excuse to build my dream, after 3 years and another 60k miles *give or take*, i couldn't break it..every day that car met the redline a few dozen times, when i sold it the buyer said "this is the tightest alfa I've ever driven, runs awesome", alfa building a great car is nothing new. owned 15 alfa's in 30 years, mostly 115's, v6 camp, alfa's are issued souls at the factory. they each have a personality.
What a great review. I lust after this car and have watched so many reviews over the last few months. This is in a different league quality and insight-wise. Thank you for making it!
Nice to see a tasty Alfa on Harrys channel - he’s been an inspiration to me since the EVO days, so I’ve finally started my own Alfa Romeo channel to showcase the cars that I love too. Cheers Harry!
My 1st visit to "Harry's Garage", and I'm impressed. That doesn't happen very often. I've owned hundreds of cars in my fairly long life, a few Alfas among them. I'm currently on my 7th Lexus, a 2006 GS300 SE-L, which has very kingly been "breathed on" by my local Lexus dealership. It now has a top-end of 172·6mph! (Achieved over a measured runway for accuracy) Yet it's still silent, super comfortable and utterly reliable. It also returns excellent economy; giving 43mpg at 70mph, on a motorway in cruise and between 21 and 32 mpg around town. I'm happy. (Questions about the other 6 dwarves will not be answered). Anyway; an excellent video in every respect. I shall be on the lookout for more. Thank you Harry.
@@alexandruandreivasile5041 ....I've owned 7 Alfa Romeos....I was the President of the NY Alfa Romeo Owners Club for 10 years...I've also owned many Audi and BMW and two Mercedes and one Porsche (glorified VW).......My BMW history.....YIKES...see below... M 3 Subframe crack M 5 Vanos Failures M 5 Rod Bearing Failure M 5 SMG Clutch...what a freaking disaster.... My Alfas were always better than my UBER QUALITY GERMAN CARS.... FORZA ALFA BABY ....THE KING IS BACK !!!!!
@@alexandruandreivasile5041 GERMAN FANBOYS ARE CRYING !!!! FORZA ALFA BABY !!! THE KING IS BACK !!!! LOVE THE BEAUTIFUL GRILL ON THE NEW 3 SERIES !!! YIKES !!!! LOOKS LIKE RAT TEETH !!!! THE KIDNEY GRILL HAS MORPHED INTO A PAIR OF LUNGS !!!!
The real car weight is probably one of the most important stats and one of the most unappreciated since there is not pattern for measuring it across the industry and manufactures hide the specs which the car measured had, a bunch of options make a huge difference
Agree, one of the main selling points for me in this car is the discreet yet powerful styling. If and when i buy one i want it in silver so it blends in more. A car for adults.
Yes it is a beautiful car and powerful looking but still elegant and tasteful. Not like the M3 which just looks silly and fussy by comparison, or the C63 which looks like a C220d on big wheels.. I think they got the balance just right without going OTT.
I test drove one of these last month, and can agree with a lot that you say. There's definitely a small lack of communication through the steering wheel when cornering briskly, but as you said the car just does it. I put it down to being so far off the limits at the time that the car wasn't feeding back anything awry. I think I need more than an hour in the thing though. The only thing i'd take issue with is the "9/10ths" bit - to me it was every bit deserving of it's accolades and not once I felt it was lacking. In it's aim of being a usable everyday rocketship I think it achieved, and certainly left me feeling much better than the Caymans i'd been underwhelmed with. I also drove a Veloce, and it felt special in a rep car way, but not a patch on the QV.
Harry You have opened my eyes to other marques . To see the Alfa’s make you smile is a delight . What a treat, I have found the silver lining lurking in the covid cloud -- Your Vlogs. Thank you
Increases the car's structural rigidity too. Italians are sometimes smaller so it's not an issue. That's why the Giulietta outruns any Golf too, as the engine is further back at the expense of front legroom. Germans are tall... Edit: out turns not outruns. Daft autocorrect
@@MrStefano218 I'd agree in honesty as they all seem to tower over me (I'm under five-eight). Still the Giulietta has its engine further back which penalizes front legroom but improves the handling.
Really enjoy your videos. Your experience in the industry and reviewing motor vehicles is evident in the numerous facts and history you know that relate to the vehicle in question. Would love the "in-depth" or "walk-around" segment of your videos to go longer to learn more about the technical details of the vehicle.
A little harsh i thought Harry. You say it is a 9/10 car but you want more noise from the V6, more fins and spoilers and more excitement. Perhaps you should take it to the track Harry? How much can you really get from a 510HP, 1650KG rear wheel drive 4 door saloon on the road at semi legal speeds, over what it already gives you? 9/10 seems pretty damn good!!! It rides beautifully, it goes like stink, it has proved reliable and take it to the track and you can drift it all day long, or set a really fast time. Isn't this Alfa exactly what we have all been waiting for. Whats the point of a even more expensive hardcore version that you can't really use on the road, BMW keep getting it wrong with the M3 and that sounds terrible. I am pretty sure you could lose £10K very easily on this car. I think you are too much of an enthusiast perhaps Harry, with such a glorious history, we all want the perfect Ferrari beating Alfa, yet that history is over half a century ago at it's most recent really. Lets celebrate what we have here, a good looking, usable, well built, very fast everyday car that rides better than most in its sector. And without too many extras, a very competitive price point. M3 anyone, well maybe the new switchable 4 wheel drive one....
Of course on a track it would be even more fun but unless it's a supercar, you shouldn't need a track to fully discover the love and enjoyment this kind of sports car. The upside is that it is usable as a daily driver, though at the expense of a little emotion.
Totally agree! This car is brutally fast, in Race on public road you really have to put an egg under your right foot...you have to try one to fully understand the exceptional work Alfa did on this saloon.
I love Harry's reviews but isn't he employed by Jaguar Special Ops on top of owning the Project 8? I think it might make it hard for him to be objective in this case. I was also surprised by his comments about it being too subtle for a sport sedan that tries to enter a very difficult market and that is not from a limited production run.
What do you mean by they keep getting it wrong? The m3 is a fabulous car and sounds pretty good in person. This car came out a few years after the f80 so Alfa had time to out do the competition.
This video just happened to show up in my recommendations. I did not expect a review this good! I rarely quickly give a channel a sub and a like, but this one was deserved. Also helps that this is my favorite car at the moment haha. One interesting part about the car is the interior. IMHO in terms of looks, it doesn't seem or feel very new. Not much inside with the dashboard, instrument cluster, etc seems to inspire much. While that seems like a drawback, I think that will be an asset in the future. A full TFT instrument cluster looks nice now, but how low-resolution will those full displays look in 8 years? A lot of these new car gimmicks won't help some of these cars age well. My family has a 2007 Audi A8, and it has analog gauges with a 4.2 inch screen sandwiched in between. That's really helped prevent our car from feeling like it's close to 12 years old.
I am old fashioned and still think 276bhp is a lot, so would love to see you do a similar video with the Giulia Veloce. Particularly how that compares for driver feel.
I think 100bhp feels fast in an old Fiesta 1.6 from the 80s but back then the cars were not refined , nowadays you could drive a 1400bhp Bugatti and it would be as easy as driving your mums Vauxhall Corsa lol
Thanks Harry, lovely to see a really honest opinion on this my favourite saloon of the moment. And not on track in typical uk B road situation. I sense through your description the car lacked a bit of drama and connection. I understood fully your description of the car not letting you know and giving you the 100% confidence to push it hard. Some chassis just transmit that from the seat of your pants. I have driven a tuned version of the Giulia not the QV and was really impressed. The ZF gearbox is a gem, and the steering as you said is so alert, quick and sensitive, and the ride quality really nice. Never bangs or crashes in any drive mode. :-) Keep up the great work Harry. Look forward to you testing Alfa's next release, lets hope its a coupe.
Alfa decided there would be no Sportwagon and if you wanted one you would have to have a SUV. That's why after three generations of Alfa I have had to go back to BMW. Even when they have a good car to sell Alfa still manage to shoot themselves in the foot.
@@MrKeyboardCommando I'm obsessed with well-made goods. That having said, you can't 100% sure determine if it's cashmere just by looking. But it's either that or a really high-quality merino wool or angora wool mix. But if is full cashmere in that thickness, then you will pay that price for it. You can rule out cotton, because you see some pilling in close-ups.
I almost died laughing when you put into full sport mode and stomped the loud pedal. Like all Alfisti, your face lit with a big uncontrollable smile!!!
The world's best car reviewer bar none ... no BS, just a solid impression of the car from someone who know's what the hell they're talking about. Been a fan of Harry's reviews since the early EVO days ... he knows his stuff.
Totally agree about the styling and most other things you said. As a drivers car it's as good as a car can get, but it doesn't have anything really quirky or special about it. It's as if they tried to make it like the other German cars...
Thanks for the timely review Harry. I'll be changing my AMG C63S coupe later this year and this is on the short list. We share the same local roads so also keen to give one a test in the next few months on the "Cirencester triangle". ;) Will be interesting to see this compares to the new M3 announced later this year.
Lovely car, and I do read you, and indeed I can see where you are coming from, but I think that Alfa did really want a truly mature and usable fast saloon, rather than a hardcore, raspy, noisy AMG-esque car that you cannot use on a daily basis. This is designed and built to give real sheer joy an a DAILY BASIS.
Daniele Regoli I totally agree. Had mine for 5 months now and even in with UK roads in the winter, in N mode she’s like a pussycat to drive. In Dynamic and the two times I’ve tried Race mode however, the car is an absolute beast.
Great review Harry. Just put a deposit down on a used one. A previous owner and in the Competitzione red. Can’t wait to drive it as my daily driver. Such a fab alternative to the boring BMW’s, Audi’s and Mercedes of this world!. 😊
Damn quite harsh on the Alfa - seems like that's a lot of car for 70K. 191 top speed, in a 5 seater with a big boot and sub 4.5 to 62 mph.......and all in a comfortable car you can relax in whilst travelling hundreds, if not thousands of miles. I'd take one if I had that kind of money.
0-100 km/h official time is 3.9 seconds, official time 0-60 mph is 3.8 s, Car and Driver has measured 0-60 mph 3.6 seconds, Harrys information about 4.5 is maybe worst I have read or heard , most of them are closer to 3.9 than 4.5 seconds, dont know where he did get that information.
I drove the 280 hp petrol (Veloce) and, sadly, it felt noticeably cheaper inside than any German car. The interior was underwhelming, so I kinda get what Harry is going on about.
Nicely done, Harry. Quiet enthusiasm with great observations about living with this car. It now seems more a willing companion than the beast it's made out to be. :) Now, please review the lesser Ti for the rest of us.
In 84 I bought a 2.O Giullietta GSR. Had at least 70 other cars including Skylines, Evos and Impreza Turbos this was the best car I ever had. The weird like the elec widow switches beside the rear mirror, the 40 DCOE air intake roar ..... brilliant. My colleagues reckoned Cavalier SRi or Sierra XR4 was the dogs bollox. !!
Good choice of vehicle to review Harry, good point also I think when you talked about how the Giulia is a fantastic base for building the next Alfa Romeo top model where they can be more daring with the design and maybe make it have better feedback from the steering. Good review Harry as usual I have to say.
I'm with Harry on the conservative styling. I read that Marchionne instructed the designers to stay away from the gorgeous yet aggressive design language of the 159 and SZ, for example. I think he made the right call though for maximum sales. The average consumer is extremely conservative and conformist. Even if they love the look of something, they'll be worried about standing out too much, or, not getting the accepting nod from the Jones's next door.
My Audi's steering is just under 2 and a half turns lock to lock so clearly not all German cars have a wide turning circle, definitely prefer the more precise steering that gives, often overlooked when buying a car but very important to how the car deals with corners and manoeuvres, great vid as usual
This car is drop dead gorgeous. This had an understated colour though.. It should be the classic Alfa Rosso, or white or maybe matte silver wiyh yellow calipers and dark wheels ahhh... I dont agree with Harry about the styling. Its about as much "extra" styling as an C63 AMG or M3 compared to standard C-class or 3-series imo.. Forza Alfa for doing this.. giving us petrol heads the car of our dreams. Please make an estate Alfa !!!!!!!!!
One of my dream cars but I agree about the styling. It looks special when the camera is zoomed in and focused on it but when you see one out in the wild they just blend in with the Honda's, Toyota's and Mazda's. I realize there's only so much you can do with a family 4 door saloon but surely they could have done more. Also seems to be Alfa tradition to make even 19" rims look small. I'd still love one though of course
@Legio XXI Rapax I'm not talking about the Tonale mate, I'm talking about this car in the video. I have seen many Giulia's driving around and in my subjective opinion they blend in with a lot of other modern 4 door saloons.
@Legio XXI Rapax Exactly. So then Alfa should've really stepped up their game and created something truly unique. Instead they played it safe to get those sales.
Dylan Masters agree and I love it but and would buy one if I could (actually I could) but it just isn’t right...we have been given 12 years (11 now) to reverse the global damage we have done...just watch the news.
First And Last Yep see it constantly! The news has been playing the same broken record for about 50 years on climate change and sustainable development. But an affordable, sustainable alternative would be great! Sooner rather than later.
Really wanted to love this car, and I did. But two things put me off. I cycle and desperately wanted reclining rear seats to open up the boot, and the other: I was just nervous about depreciation... So I bought a C63 Coupe and yes the seats recline. Still fancy one though. Great review Harry
since the year 2000 maybe? I don't know exactly. But cars aren't built as in the 60 or '70s, they got heavier, complicated and many of them boring. if this weight less than a Ton, the engine of the Veloce version would be more than enough, but for what it is, I think it's not bad at all.
I'll never forget my 2003 Alfa 156 2.0 JTS Lusso. It ate wishbone bushes, but I loved it. The Guilia seems to go back to that style ie more rounded than the 156 face-lift.
Amazing,how do the Italians make things so beautiful?,it's not easy to get excited about a 4 door saloon but this seems an exciting car.I suppose the real problem for Alfa is stopping the same obnoxious pricks that usually buy BMW'S from buying their cars and giving the Alfa badge a bad name,in the United Kingdom at least.
Waiting to see what they do with the upcoming 6C. That could be a real winner. Much easier to make a two-door look terrific. A coupe with this engine tuned even higher. What a beast that would be.
Alfa Romeo probably does the most beautiful factory wheels of all manufacturers.
E39 M5 is tops for me. Also like many of the Lambo wheels of the last 20 years though personally I drive Ferrari. Most cars these days, when I idly play with the car configurator on the website, lose my interest when it comes to wheel designs. Current BMW, Porsche, MB: I just don't see anything I like in the least.
Really nice, but the 2021 Aston Martin DBX wheels are pure art.
Saab 9-5 , The final generation have these turbine looking wheels with like 20 different spokes all pointed in towards the middle. Literally looks like the inside of a jet engine. I want to buy one just to look at it and put it on my wall.
@@2steaksandwiches665 makes a lot of sense, with all their aircraft heritage SAAB went on about in the 80s
Except the 5-holes are hideous compared to the Tecnicos.
Carbon bonnet from Gurit Automotive, prototyped on the Isle of Wight... manufactured in Hungary. Produced by a great team that I am proud to have been part of.
That's a genuinely interesting bit of information ( for me as an owner at least ). Did Gurit do the roof panel and the propshaft as well?
@@richardbdop8741 Hi Richard , no we only did the bonnet.. . Inner moulding is press moulded, outer is hand laid...... bonded with a sika adhesive 2 part pu.... applied by a fanuc robot arm..... the adhesive is blue if you look in through the catch holes..they were primed with 2 layers of primer by robot too.. there is a gurit sticker up by the windscreen edge as I recall.... it was the last project I worked on before I left.... very stiff part... and uses the same adhesive for the perimeter hem as well as the antiflutter ... same kind of material went into Aston vanquish, 918 spyder and la ferrari....i worked on all of those too...cheers.
@@peterjennings8258 Thanks for all that. You've got me looking at Gurit webpages and videos now. It's a wet and windy Sunday after all!
@@richardbdop8741 we did loads of good stuff back in the day..... I made the very first bonnet outer at the tool buy off in Canada...( tooling came from Weber industries Midland Ontario. I was a development engineer... alas Gurit are giving up on the car bits but we did do an amazing job between 2001 and 2016.. brought the technology much closer to being suitable for mass production... great days..As a long term alfa and lancia owner it was great for me to finish my time there on an Alfa.... I did the adhesive selection and testing on your hood! Have a look through the catch holes.... you will see it's blue... cheers
@@peterjennings8258 Yes! Just looked. Blue band of adhesive as you say. Also the Gurit," Made in Hungary" sticker which I had failed to notice previously. Thanks again. I love this sort of detail and insight.
Actually I like the fact that car is not too noisy and that it has analog instruments.
Me too.
Tech ages...look at the 80s old cool dashes and whatnot. Analog is more natural and is def more timeless. The less tech in a sports/sporty car the better. As an apliance like a camry or soemthing sure...have a screen or 2 who cares. Its disposable crap anyways lol.
@@stefanfreestylez Like Tesla...disposable tech crap !!!!
Mad news from your Corsa but us mens with big seamens could you give you big gapes in the fastness of the race car in for the moment have been taken care you idiots
@@Hairyderriere yeah, i love a car with analog instrument
I own a giulia qv. After coming from an E92 M3, I must admit I did think it was a little quiet at first. I also thought slighter wider arches would have been great. After owning the car for a while though, I must say, I really love it. Its an absolute beast, but so liveable, and it really hooks you in. Chassis, steering and power delivery are really special. And it's such a stunning yet understated car.
How reliable is it, maintenance costs acceptable?
Can stop looking at these atm
@oldmcdonald6319 so far the car hasn't missed a beat. Have it 2 years now . 26 k miles on the clock. Just regular servicing. Not bad on fuel either
How’s the gearbox behave with a few miles on it? I’m considering making the exact same jump from E92 M3 (albeit manual) at the moment
@@johncreedon7847 thanks! hope you have many happy miles ahead
@youremostwelcome I drive my qv in race mode 95 percent of the time with the gearbox set to manual mode. I use the paddles or the shifter itself to change. For a torque converter auto it's top notch. 95 percent as quick as a dct in race mode, but smoother. I would still rather a dct, but it is a very impressive set up and the ratios are bang on
i really appreciate that Harry used the magnet to indicate which part of the car was Steel vs Aluminum. Not many other car reviewers would think of that.
He didn’t mention the carbon fiber roof nor did he use a magnet on it
Using a magnet is a well known method of checking if a steel car body is full of filler when you buy secondhand and there has been any respray work.
Seen it a thousand times
Yeah nice of him to scratch the paint
Gorgeous car. Well done Alfa for going back to the proper way of building cars.
@marcus price sadly
You always learn something watching Harry's reviews, like BMWs have turn signals!
see- BMW drivers aren't assholes after all- they just don't use the turn signal because it is so hard to turn off 😂 (as a German though- I rarely see people not using turn signals around here- don't know where that meme originates from... people that actually do not indicate are 1. Bus drivers and 2. People with lots of "children on board" stickers on the rear window :)
Oli K Ahh not this myth again. Its the simplest operation possible. Gently tap for 3 blinks and a harder press for the usual function. Either way it will automatically cancel once the turn is complete. So I do not know where this myth comes from 🤷🏻♂️
NOISY turn signals! No one likes a smart arse.
@@drchunkybiscuit9973 hahaha wot?
@@drchunkybiscuit9973 lol I kid I kid, just perpetuating a meme
Bought this car 4 months ago - absolutely love it!
Enjoy.
Luv and Peace.
fuck you :)
Hate you 😂
10 months on. Do you still have it? How are you finding it?
I'll have to settle for the Veloce, as I don't have 'fuck you money' (as the cool kids say) but I love the QV.
Me too. It’s bloody awesome machine. Way better than any bmw or Mercedes.
The weighing thing is fantastic. There is so much bullshit involved with manufacturer quoted weights.
That Grin on Harry's face at around 13:28 tells you everything, this car is epic and that's why I picked up one.
But they have the 4C for the crazy styling and exotic driving experience. This is a 4 door sedan that means you use it everyday, if they made it uncomfortable and too exciting I think many people wouldn’t buy it.
And then they made the Giulia GTA (and GTAm)
It is a 9/10 car that I had for 2 years. Broadly agree with everything Harry has said, but it really gets under your skin and it is reliable, so you do the miles and smile even more. If you ever get the chance to drive one, or even better own one, do it! 😁
I have a TI Sport, I’ve had it for about a year now. I’m in love, at the limit it’s like nothing else. You have to drive it hard to understand why everyone loves it.
@@NOrlando952 Agree with both of you! I also have a Ti Sport, and the car BEGS to be pushed a little bit. Sometimes wish I went for the QV, but realistically my ideal power plant would probably be a V6 around 350-375hp.
@@AlokSomani It's criminal that they never made a middle-power variant; even a hotter 4-cylinder would be great, but a single-turbo version of the 6 would be even better! Also bring back the Sport Carbon trim, please!
I struggle with the 'no feedback' comment. Ive driven one and loved it. Golf R has probably been the only other car that 'felt' this good. I'm sure there must be some high level cars that do this too, but in this budget? Drove a Stelvio QF last week, loved it but clearly heavier / bigger but still very good.
In the late 70's early 80's I had three Alfas. First a 69 Giulia with Weber carbs that was a hoot to drive but after putting in two head gaskets I had to let it go. Then a 72 Giulia with fuel injection that I drove from Vancouver to Toronto and back without a problem. Got 30mpg as well. Lastly a 2000 GTV that I loved but a drunk ran into the back and wrecked it. Sure wish I had that car today. Really enjoyed them all. Wish I could afford one of these new ones. Seems like a great resurgence for Alfa.
I’m a big fan of the Giulia Quadrifoglio - finally a decent and viable alternative to BMW and Mercedes offerings. Typically floored and quirky in an Italian way but still sets the benchmark for future performance Alfa’s. The rumoured Coupe version looks absolutely astonishing - but as always Alfa needs to see it to fruition whilst ironing out some of the saloons idiosyncrasies - Brilliant review as ever Harry!
I've read the GTV has been cancelled! Or pushed back indefinitely in favour of boring SUVs.
Had 4 TVR's previously . My last car was an AR 145 quadrifoglio, which never let me down. Now I've got a Mito 1.4 turbo, which is pretty quick in dynamiqe. Very pleased with it . But quiet , not enough exhaust
Like the idea of weighing as weight affects nearly everything.
1700kg minimum on the scales for a QF with no driver.
@@niacuk1 Did you not watch this video? It weighed in at 1665 kg with 3/4 tank of fuel/no driver.
@@emmajnation-emma and this one had the steel brakes. So another £5000 loses what 20Kg. (Though I would spec carbon brakes before carbon seats and spoilers.)
Almost every other car is built for commuters. Alfas are built for drivers.
Most of which have to commute at some point.
Mechanics You mean 😂
Meh, no manual.
@@dvrz A manual version is available.
Turns out you're right. I stand corrected. +1
Harry reviewing the Quad, that deserves good coffee. Harry's insights are amazing, he just says it as it is without being overly negative.
I agree with everything you say, except about the styling. I think they got it spot on, and I get admiring comments from people almost every day. Yes, it could be a little more communicative, but driven at 9/10ths it’s better than anything else with 4 doors
I do like an Audi RS4, but Alfa and Jag have a special heritage
Had the pleasure of driving one, it is truly brilliant. Power is incredible and the smoothness is brilliant. Very refined but yet super powerful. A gem of a car and as always in Italian cars it puts a smile on your face.
Quality viewing carry on with the good work Harry
This is the review I've been waiting for. Exquisite video as always.
The finest casual reviews on cars. Keep them coming Harry.
when i was a kid, I had a 84 gtv6 which I purchased with 200k miles from the original owner, i spent hours and hours debating with fellow alfisti online, i had my "dream engine" specs written down, this cam, this stage head, etc etc..so my goal was to drive the 200k gtv6 blow the motor and have an excuse to build my dream, after 3 years and another 60k miles *give or take*, i couldn't break it..every day that car met the redline a few dozen times, when i sold it the buyer said "this is the tightest alfa I've ever driven, runs awesome", alfa building a great car is nothing new. owned 15 alfa's in 30 years, mostly 115's, v6 camp, alfa's are issued souls at the factory. they each have a personality.
What a great review. I lust after this car and have watched so many reviews over the last few months. This is in a different league quality and insight-wise. Thank you for making it!
Nice to see a tasty Alfa on Harrys channel - he’s been an inspiration to me since the EVO days, so I’ve finally started my own Alfa Romeo channel to showcase the cars that I love too. Cheers Harry!
Subscribed!
Thanks, will,take you up on that
I’d have one of these over anything tediously German anyday. A car with genuine character and soul. Sounds incredible
Did you ever get one though?
My 1st visit to "Harry's Garage", and I'm impressed. That doesn't happen very often. I've owned hundreds of cars in my fairly long life, a few Alfas among them. I'm currently on my 7th Lexus, a 2006 GS300 SE-L, which has very kingly been "breathed on" by my local Lexus dealership. It now has a top-end of 172·6mph! (Achieved over a measured runway for accuracy) Yet it's still silent, super comfortable and utterly reliable. It also returns excellent economy; giving 43mpg at 70mph, on a motorway in cruise and between 21 and 32 mpg around town. I'm happy.
(Questions about the other 6 dwarves will not be answered).
Anyway; an excellent video in every respect. I shall be on the lookout for more. Thank you Harry.
My last alfa was a Alfasud back in the late 80s, the Alfa bug never leaves you despite all the dramas they give
Sometimes I dream I’m in my old 77GTV
It’s that Alfa Burgle you can’t forget, ever.
God I miss my Alfa, it was big, heavy, FWD but it had a busso V6 and I adored it. Best car I’ve ever owned.
Miss my 1750 too
So buy another. Sexond hand Alfas are dirt cheap. Personally I wouldn't touch one with a lead lined barge pole.
@@waltercodbollocks3175 ....oh...and you'd buy a second hand M 3 ? HAHAHAHAHAHA....you're funny there Cod boy....
@@alexandruandreivasile5041 ....I've owned 7 Alfa Romeos....I was the President of the NY Alfa Romeo Owners Club for 10 years...I've also owned many Audi and BMW and two Mercedes and one Porsche (glorified VW).......My BMW history.....YIKES...see below...
M 3 Subframe crack
M 5 Vanos Failures
M 5 Rod Bearing Failure
M 5 SMG Clutch...what a freaking disaster....
My Alfas were always better than my UBER QUALITY GERMAN CARS....
FORZA ALFA BABY ....THE KING IS BACK !!!!!
@@alexandruandreivasile5041 GERMAN FANBOYS ARE CRYING !!!!
FORZA ALFA BABY !!! THE KING IS BACK !!!!
LOVE THE BEAUTIFUL GRILL ON THE NEW 3 SERIES !!! YIKES !!!!
LOOKS LIKE RAT TEETH !!!!
THE KIDNEY GRILL HAS MORPHED INTO A PAIR OF LUNGS !!!!
The real car weight is probably one of the most important stats and one of the most unappreciated since there is not pattern for measuring it across the industry and manufactures hide the specs which the car measured had, a bunch of options make a huge difference
Another fantastic review from Harry but I disagree about the styling, I think its done just right, the Giulia is simply gorgeous even in boggo trim.
I agree, particularly from the side. It’s gorgeous.
Agree, one of the main selling points for me in this car is the discreet yet powerful styling. If and when i buy one i want it in silver so it blends in more. A car for adults.
Yes it is a beautiful car and powerful looking but still elegant and tasteful. Not like the M3 which just looks silly and fussy by comparison, or the C63 which looks like a C220d on big wheels.. I think they got the balance just right without going OTT.
I'd have the Alfa over anything German, absolutely fabulous car.
Until you see the repair bill.
D C Have and buy are two different states of experience.
D C Have and buy are two different states of experience.
D C Have and buy are two different states of experience.
W-James German car repair bills are not cheap either though.
Favourite reviewer and my favourite car
Good taste Daniel, I’m hoping to drag race one against my friends 407hp hybrid Volvo! Keep an eye on my channel! ;0)
Car wise you must’ve been living in a cave for 60 years.
@ still better than an m3 or a c63...
Ale16_ 6 agreed but not better than at least 20 cars I could reel straight off the top of my head.
@ give me an advice, if you had 60k to spend on a sports car, everything classic and modern, what should i go for?
I test drove one of these last month, and can agree with a lot that you say. There's definitely a small lack of communication through the steering wheel when cornering briskly, but as you said the car just does it. I put it down to being so far off the limits at the time that the car wasn't feeding back anything awry. I think I need more than an hour in the thing though. The only thing i'd take issue with is the "9/10ths" bit - to me it was every bit deserving of it's accolades and not once I felt it was lacking. In it's aim of being a usable everyday rocketship I think it achieved, and certainly left me feeling much better than the Caymans i'd been underwhelmed with. I also drove a Veloce, and it felt special in a rep car way, but not a patch on the QV.
The Corsas don't help the feedback either. On Pilot Sport 4S, there's a much improved steering feel.
Harry You have opened my eyes to other marques . To see the Alfa’s make you smile is a delight . What a treat, I have found the silver lining lurking in the covid cloud -- Your Vlogs. Thank you
Love that you bought scales to weigh the cars - please do that for your whole fleet as well :)
Thank you for the great tests. Great old style cockpit. Great car.
That moment when Harry turns over the engine and “Super Freak” is blaring from the radio, lol. Who knew.
You can see that clover shape in the wheel design!!
Worth saying the b pillar may be there to aid passenger safety - this car achieved the highest ever rating in adult passenger safety ever recorded
Increases the car's structural rigidity too. Italians are sometimes smaller so it's not an issue. That's why the Giulietta outruns any Golf too, as the engine is further back at the expense of front legroom. Germans are tall...
Edit: out turns not outruns. Daft autocorrect
jonathanstamp only because it wouldn’t start
jonathanstamp good point, and undoubtedly the reason why it scored so well
@@visionist7 according to wikipedia italians are not smaller en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_average_human_height_worldwide
@@MrStefano218 I'd agree in honesty as they all seem to tower over me (I'm under five-eight). Still the Giulietta has its engine further back which penalizes front legroom but improves the handling.
Harry, you’ve quickly become my fave YT auto channel. Salute to you and your style. The new Alfas really are the best they have ever offered.
Love your channel, Harry -- beautiful property full of gorgeous cars... A fan from the USA...
Really enjoy your videos. Your experience in the industry and reviewing motor vehicles is evident in the numerous facts and history you know that relate to the vehicle in question. Would love the "in-depth" or "walk-around" segment of your videos to go longer to learn more about the technical details of the vehicle.
Nice idea but then the video could end up being an hour long!
A little harsh i thought Harry. You say it is a 9/10 car but you want more noise from the V6, more fins and spoilers and more excitement. Perhaps you should take it to the track Harry? How much can you really get from a 510HP, 1650KG rear wheel drive 4 door saloon on the road at semi legal speeds, over what it already gives you? 9/10 seems pretty damn good!!! It rides beautifully, it goes like stink, it has proved reliable and take it to the track and you can drift it all day long, or set a really fast time. Isn't this Alfa exactly what we have all been waiting for. Whats the point of a even more expensive hardcore version that you can't really use on the road, BMW keep getting it wrong with the M3 and that sounds terrible. I am pretty sure you could lose £10K very easily on this car. I think you are too much of an enthusiast perhaps Harry, with such a glorious history, we all want the perfect Ferrari beating Alfa, yet that history is over half a century ago at it's most recent really. Lets celebrate what we have here, a good looking, usable, well built, very fast everyday car that rides better than most in its sector. And without too many extras, a very competitive price point. M3 anyone, well maybe the new switchable 4 wheel drive one....
Of course on a track it would be even more fun but unless it's a supercar, you shouldn't need a track to fully discover the love and enjoyment this kind of sports car. The upside is that it is usable as a daily driver, though at the expense of a little emotion.
Totally agree! This car is brutally fast, in Race on public road you really have to put an egg under your right foot...you have to try one to fully understand the exceptional work Alfa did on this saloon.
why are you selling it? i don't get it. also, "well built" - now i know you never sat in one. build quality is at level of 20k cars, fyi
I love Harry's reviews but isn't he employed by Jaguar Special Ops on top of owning the Project 8? I think it might make it hard for him to be objective in this case. I was also surprised by his comments about it being too subtle for a sport sedan that tries to enter a very difficult market and that is not from a limited production run.
What do you mean by they keep getting it wrong? The m3 is a fabulous car and sounds pretty good in person. This car came out a few years after the f80 so Alfa had time to out do the competition.
Still one of the best videos about this Alfa 🍀
This video just happened to show up in my recommendations. I did not expect a review this good! I rarely quickly give a channel a sub and a like, but this one was deserved. Also helps that this is my favorite car at the moment haha.
One interesting part about the car is the interior. IMHO in terms of looks, it doesn't seem or feel very new. Not much inside with the dashboard, instrument cluster, etc seems to inspire much. While that seems like a drawback, I think that will be an asset in the future. A full TFT instrument cluster looks nice now, but how low-resolution will those full displays look in 8 years? A lot of these new car gimmicks won't help some of these cars age well. My family has a 2007 Audi A8, and it has analog gauges with a 4.2 inch screen sandwiched in between. That's really helped prevent our car from feeling like it's close to 12 years old.
I've seen many reviews, and im certain i'd get a Giulia quadrifoglio in a few months. Such a great car.
I am old fashioned and still think 276bhp is a lot, so would love to see you do a similar video with the Giulia Veloce. Particularly how that compares for driver feel.
The Veloce ecu tuned makes 320 hp...
I think 100bhp feels fast in an old Fiesta 1.6 from the 80s but back then the cars were not refined , nowadays you could drive a 1400bhp Bugatti and it would be as easy as driving your mums Vauxhall Corsa lol
Thanks Harry, lovely to see a really honest opinion on this my favourite saloon of the moment. And not on track in typical uk B road situation. I sense through your description the car lacked a bit of drama and connection. I understood fully your description of the car not letting you know and giving you the 100% confidence to push it hard. Some chassis just transmit that from the seat of your pants. I have driven a tuned version of the Giulia not the QV and was really impressed. The ZF gearbox is a gem, and the steering as you said is so alert, quick and sensitive, and the ride quality really nice. Never bangs or crashes in any drive mode. :-) Keep up the great work Harry. Look forward to you testing Alfa's next release, lets hope its a coupe.
Now all I need is a QV Estate to drool over, and for the dogs to drool in. Love this car though - but your Project 8 runs it close!
Alfa decided there would be no Sportwagon and if you wanted one you would have to have a SUV. That's why after three generations of Alfa I have had to go back to BMW. Even when they have a good car to sell Alfa still manage to shoot themselves in the foot.
@@jonw9417 imagine Stelvio on minus 80 mm coilovers.
Jeremy Clarkson said the project 8 was better, and he loved the Guilia
Project 8 is a completely different beast imo.
If you want a sportswagon, maybe the Alpina B5 Touring is probably the way to go. Don’t think the current BMW M5 comes in estate form.
Proper job!! Setting the standart for this type of show. Thank you Harry
In a subdued colour what a Q Car this could be, lovely noise . Hope it goes the distance.
A bit starnge stance, maybe becuaase of the bigger rims. But so happy to see a RWD Alfa back. Great job Harry as usual!
That zip cardigan is a classic in its own right‼️👴🏼👴🏼👴🏼
It's cashmere and very thick cashmere from the looks of it. Expect 5-6- or 7 hundred euros.
@@bakkermaarten007 Really, how can you tell⁉️🤔🤔🤔
@@MrKeyboardCommando I'm obsessed with well-made goods. That having said, you can't 100% sure determine if it's cashmere just by looking. But it's either that or a really high-quality merino wool or angora wool mix.
But if is full cashmere in that thickness, then you will pay that price for it. You can rule out cotton, because you see some pilling in close-ups.
@@MrKeyboardCommando I'll give you another tip: never trust someone who declares to be able to tell the material of a sweater from a youtube video ;-)
@@bakkermaarten007 Thank you for the information, it's appreciated.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Late to Harry's party - What a fantastic channel and a great delivery. A few weeks worth of watching here to catch up.
I almost died laughing when you put into full sport mode and stomped the loud pedal. Like all Alfisti, your face lit with a big uncontrollable smile!!!
This is the best report of this car I have ever seen. I am sure this will sell at least 100 Alfas.Lets hope it's more.
How could you turn off Super Freak!?!?
I'm Rick James bitch!
LMAO, I thought the same thing.
He He He
Always appreciate the little touches like the camera running when he shuts the driver's door.
Great Test - always Harry is the best ❤️🚀
I've already seen 30 reviews of the same car,but this is the best one by miles.
I SIMPLY LOVE THIS CAR,AND I WILL. YESSSSSS WILL BUY ONE.
The world's best car reviewer bar none ... no BS, just a solid impression of the car from someone who know's what the hell they're talking about. Been a fan of Harry's reviews since the early EVO days ... he knows his stuff.
Totally agree about the styling and most other things you said. As a drivers car it's as good as a car can get, but it doesn't have anything really quirky or special about it. It's as if they tried to make it like the other German cars...
Thanks for the timely review Harry. I'll be changing my AMG C63S coupe later this year and this is on the short list.
We share the same local roads so also keen to give one a test in the next few months on the "Cirencester triangle". ;)
Will be interesting to see this compares to the new M3 announced later this year.
I'm keen on the Lexus LC500. I know it's not as capable as the M3 but I just a Japanese V8!
Lovely car, and I do read you, and indeed I can see where you are coming from, but I think that Alfa did really want a truly mature and usable fast saloon, rather than a hardcore, raspy, noisy AMG-esque car that you cannot use on a daily basis. This is designed and built to give real sheer joy an a DAILY BASIS.
Daniele Regoli I totally agree. Had mine for 5 months now and even in with UK roads in the winter, in N mode she’s like a pussycat to drive. In Dynamic and the two times I’ve tried Race mode however, the car is an absolute beast.
I had a 1958 Giulietta spider Valoce many years ago....I like how they subtly retro designed in the mustache look into the grill....Gorgeous car!!!
An Alfa and a V6...great recipe when made well...!!! 💪😁👍🔝🚗💨
Great review Harry. Just put a deposit down on a used one. A previous owner and in the Competitzione red. Can’t wait to drive it as my daily driver. Such a fab alternative to the boring BMW’s, Audi’s and Mercedes of this world!. 😊
Those wheels are bloody gorgeous
Thanks, Harry! Love these new Alfas
Damn quite harsh on the Alfa - seems like that's a lot of car for 70K. 191 top speed, in a 5 seater with a big boot and sub 4.5 to 62 mph.......and all in a comfortable car you can relax in whilst travelling hundreds, if not thousands of miles. I'd take one if I had that kind of money.
I agree with you.
i agree... plus I guess it is a matter of taste
0-100 km/h official time is 3.9 seconds, official time 0-60 mph is 3.8 s, Car and Driver has measured 0-60 mph 3.6 seconds, Harrys information about 4.5 is maybe worst I have read or heard , most of them are closer to 3.9 than 4.5 seconds, dont know where he did get that information.
I drove the 280 hp petrol (Veloce) and, sadly, it felt noticeably cheaper inside than any German car. The interior was underwhelming, so I kinda get what Harry is going on about.
@@Anttihii who cares if it's 3.6 or 4.5?
common sense says if it is had the lump under the bonnet it's quick enough for you and for me.
I haven't this watch yet, but I'm so happy about this video, this is future classic and my dream car.
waiting for you to publish some Geneva motor show video
Same
I have checked YT every day, for GIMS version Mr Harry! :)
Harry's there is he? Oh goody gumdrops!
It won’t be for a few days at least. There’s another vid in the queue to go out and his editor is away at the moment. Sorry to disappoint...
I'm so pleased to see your roundabout signalling - right proper
I wish I had 70k to splash out on a car, this one would be on the shopping list for sure
Nicely done, Harry. Quiet enthusiasm with great observations about living with this car. It now seems more a willing companion than the beast it's made out to be. :) Now, please review the lesser Ti for the rest of us.
great to weigh the cars! Thank you Harry; wish Evo, Car, Autocar etc did the same!
In 84 I bought a 2.O Giullietta GSR. Had at least 70 other cars including Skylines, Evos and Impreza Turbos this was the best car I ever had. The weird like the elec widow switches beside the rear mirror, the 40 DCOE air intake roar ..... brilliant. My colleagues reckoned Cavalier SRi or Sierra XR4 was the dogs bollox. !!
I do like an Audi RS4, but Alfa and Jag have a special heritage
A new GTV6 based on the same platform with 8C/Zagato styling cues, yes please.
thank you Harry, enjoyed this. Loving the exhaust noise!
Harry once again you made the best review when is the Geneva motor show video coming
Good choice of vehicle to review Harry, good point also I think when you talked about how the Giulia is a fantastic base for building the next Alfa Romeo top model where they can be more daring with the design and maybe make it have better feedback from the steering. Good review Harry as usual I have to say.
I'm with Harry on the conservative styling. I read that Marchionne instructed the designers to stay away from the gorgeous yet aggressive design language of the 159 and SZ, for example. I think he made the right call though for maximum sales. The average consumer is extremely conservative and conformist. Even if they love the look of something, they'll be worried about standing out too much, or, not getting the accepting nod from the Jones's next door.
My Audi's steering is just under 2 and a half turns lock to lock so clearly not all German cars have a wide turning circle, definitely prefer the more precise steering that gives, often overlooked when buying a car but very important to how the car deals with corners and manoeuvres, great vid as usual
Yes but your Audi engine is on the front axle so it will always be less responsive
This car is drop dead gorgeous. This had an understated colour though.. It should be the classic Alfa Rosso, or white or maybe matte silver wiyh yellow calipers and dark wheels ahhh... I dont agree with Harry about the styling. Its about as much "extra" styling as an C63 AMG or M3 compared to standard C-class or 3-series imo.. Forza Alfa for doing this.. giving us petrol heads the car of our dreams. Please make an estate Alfa !!!!!!!!!
It's painfully ugly.
One of my dream cars but I agree about the styling. It looks special when the camera is zoomed in and focused on it but when you see one out in the wild they just blend in with the Honda's, Toyota's and Mazda's. I realize there's only so much you can do with a family 4 door saloon but surely they could have done more. Also seems to be Alfa tradition to make even 19" rims look small. I'd still love one though of course
@Legio XXI Rapax I'm not talking about the Tonale mate, I'm talking about this car in the video. I have seen many Giulia's driving around and in my subjective opinion they blend in with a lot of other modern 4 door saloons.
@Legio XXI Rapax Exactly. So then Alfa should've really stepped up their game and created something truly unique. Instead they played it safe to get those sales.
Alfa a really taking it to the Germans now! And absolutely killin it! Forza Italia!! 🇮🇹👌🏻
Dylan Masters well, it just isn’t
First And Last seems pretty cool to me! I’d buy one as a daily, funds permitting.
Dylan Masters agree and I love it but and would buy one if I could (actually I could) but it just isn’t right...we have been given 12 years (11 now) to reverse the global damage we have done...just watch the news.
First And Last The news/AOC...🤪😂
First And Last Yep see it constantly! The news has been playing the same broken record for about 50 years on climate change and sustainable development. But an affordable, sustainable alternative would be great! Sooner rather than later.
Thanks Harry for a great review of a most exciting car!
I find it just perfect in looks. There are 2 where I live and nobody look them when they are in the street. Just me know what they are.
Same here! I love the somewhat understated look.
Those four exhausts give it all the flair I'd ever need!
Really wanted to love this car, and I did. But two things put me off. I cycle and desperately wanted reclining rear seats to open up the boot, and the other: I was just nervous about depreciation...
So I bought a C63 Coupe and yes the seats recline.
Still fancy one though.
Great review Harry
It's nicely done...but that "nothing to do with Ferrari" stuff makes me chuckle.
Absolutely. See savagegeese review to blow that myth away.
Cheers for the review Harry, thumbs up for the scales too. :)
At what point did 1600kg's become lightweight for a car?
Lightweight, no, but not too bad considering it has a big V6 and that it can (just about) carry a family of 5
Since when m3 is 150 kg heavier!
since the year 2000 maybe? I don't know exactly. But cars aren't built as in the 60 or '70s, they got heavier, complicated and many of them boring. if this weight less than a Ton, the engine of the Veloce version would be more than enough, but for what it is, I think it's not bad at all.
Another great review Harry! True petrol head. Thanks for always delivering a very factual, detailed overview one can really assess a car with!
I love being a unicorn on the road in my QV. it's a head turner and I get adulation all the time wherever I stop.
Why do people call them ‘QV’ in America?
@@final_mile_music9713 Quadrifoglio Verde. Green Four Leave Clover. I think that was the name initially and they dropped the Verde. (I think).
I'll never forget my 2003 Alfa 156 2.0 JTS Lusso. It ate wishbone bushes, but I loved it. The Guilia seems to go back to that style ie more rounded than the 156 face-lift.
Amazing,how do the Italians make things so beautiful?,it's not easy to get excited about a 4 door saloon but this seems an exciting car.I suppose the real problem for Alfa is stopping the same obnoxious pricks that usually buy BMW'S from buying their cars and giving the Alfa badge a bad name,in the United Kingdom at least.
Alfa need more sales, that means all sorts of idiots will buy it if they want to survive.
Waiting to see what they do with the upcoming 6C. That could be a real winner. Much easier to make a two-door look terrific. A coupe with this engine tuned even higher. What a beast that would be.