Well BMW gives you more options, for any taste you can find something, there is M3 and M3 Competition and M3 CS...there is AWD or RWD, manual or auto, Touring or Coupe or Cabrio versions...you can have even M performance so 340i which is very very good car...not to mention ALPINA versions...also BMW is good at strong diesels, 340d and 330d...all aboce is absent at Alfa, finally 325d/330i and 320d the Apfa has an answer...with Veloce models...that is why they do not sell amazingly, not enough offer...and then they are missing what BMW has with interior options in so many different upholster and colors and seat options...not to even mention Individual program. But yeah Alfa looks amazing outside, less inside...I like Alfa...but this time BMW is better (like always in the past when Alfas was underpowered amd fwd mostly) I am so sad that Giulia is finished with production this summer...and successor will be EV 👎
I hate giant screens in cars, the Alfa interior is so perfect for me, just a nice little screen that flows wonderfully into the dash, not some giant tablet monstrosity slapped on like an afterthought
I agree 100%. And you don't know how much it cost Alfa to implement such a customized screen compared to a common tablet slammed on the dashboard. I remember an interview with one of the leaders of the development team talking about this.
I HATE those stupid tablet screens. I look at a screen all day at work. I don’t want to stare at one when I’m trying to enjoy my drive. It’s LAZY interior design work by BMW. Shame on them.
@@rvc25 Basically by any car manufacturer nowadays. I guess Tesla started that crap. And then everyone was getting nervous and thought this is the future. When in fact Tesla just managed to sell you a non existing interior as a futuristic interior. Very stupid from german premium manufacturers to follow that path as a screen looks just as cheap in a Mercedes as it looks in a Toyota.
Agreed..Alfa Q🍀 is outdated. Remember when M3 alone on the top for years and along came Alfa and given M3 a run for the money which no one believed possible. They done a great job.
Definitely. After all these years it still puts a smile on my face when I walk to it. And I always have to look back at it after stepping out. There really is nothing out there that compares to it. Which is why it's the car I've owned the longest. The craziest part is that it's also the most reliable car I've ever owned!
@@FreshlySnipes Due to low demand, the manual Giulia Quadrifoglio was discontinued at the end of 2018. Only 5% of customers chose a manual Giulia. You might still be able to get them used, but an M3 would never be an option for me once you've had a Giulia. Still not a bad choice.
I would take the QV in a heart beat and I did !!. it's just one of those cars that are built once in a generation. It is a future classic and will be considered one of the greatest cars ever built in time to come.
Owned my Alfa quad a year now and absolutely love it. I looked at buying an m3/m4 but the Alfa had me on looks alone let alone how it drives. The bmw was way too common also and the amount of lovely comments I get from strangers on my Alfa just makes the car even nicer.
@Gabe_B-1 Gulia looks better. Might be a bit slower, but as a daily sedan, the gulia is the car to have. Sounds awesome perfroms wonderfully on the road. It's just a perfect package.
QV owner here. Hands down, one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Sure the interior is a bit dated. However, less is more. The driving experience of the QV, is on a whole different level.
I've owned the QV for 4 years and I daily drive it. Rosso Competizione with Sparco carbon seats. Beautiful, unique, sexy.. The feel, the sound. I'll be ok..
@Mario_RX7 YES. Most comfortable seats I've ever owned and they take the interior to another level in looks. Hey, I owned two RX7's when I was younger. You have good taste..
@ currently looking at a few but none have the Sparco seats, I will just be more patient then👍. Also awesome! WE have great taste in cars haha! Nothing more fun than pure drivers cars 🏎️
@@FefyGT I hate the fact that i love the Alfa but at the same time i am convinced that an Alfa should be a little bit more affordable than high end BMW or Mercedes models. But this one isn´t. And thats why you don´t see them on the streets :/
Im a QV owner and admit that the M3 is probably a better car. That said, I still prefer the Italian. I like that it's simpler. All the settings on the bmw and the giant screen would overwhelm me. The Alfa has more soul. Also, an Xdrive M3 will end up costing much more than the QV. Don't get me wrong, love the M3.
@@bpp325 Probably something different for anyone. But for most people better quality in some aspects and up to date tech plays a big role. That´s why german cars for example sell much better.
@@bpp325 0.1 seconds faster. 2inch bigger screen, ridiculously expensive options that aren't on a car you will buy what else.... Heavier steering, grand tourismo sounds effects.
@@Lukas-eh4cfWell i drove 156 2.0 ts and it had no issues. In two years 120 000 km. I totaled it in the end. 😢. My Best and most beautiful car. Now i drvenih Audi A3 2.0 benzin. Its good but no Alfa Romeo.
@@johnkisch240 I have a 2002 156 with the 1.8TS and the full Momo leather facelift interior. It now has about 230.000km, gets pushed hard and never let me down. I absolutely love this car!
People forget what sport sedans were originally about. They weren’t track weapons, they were liveable cars with a ton of performance. You’re not supposed to notice the difference because if you’re going fast enough that you need an M3s capabilities you’re losing your license. The reviewer says the M3 is more rewarding at 10/10ths. But this is a road review, I seriously doubt he got the car anywhere close to its limits. Taking delivery of a 2024 QV in a few weeks. Test drove the M3. I believe it when people say it would be faster than the Giulia on a track, although obviously I didn’t get to explore it at 10/10ths. But the big question is, how often are you able to track these cars? Every weekend? Maybe go M3. A few times a year or less? The Giulia is my pick. It’s a much more well rounded car, the ride isn’t punishing when in A or N mode. Even D is liveable. You’ve always got Race mode if you want a ton of fun. But you can’t really use it responsibly on public roads on a regular basis. And while the M3 is a better track car you also can’t use its capabilities on a regular basis. Tom Baker at Chasing Cars has a good comparison between the M3 and the Giulia and I think he gets it right. His take is also consistent with his view on the M550i as the actual modern successor to the M5. A liveable yet very fast and sporty sedan. You WANT a bit of roll in corners, this helps you feel the sensation of speed. If you’re flat you need to go ever faster to feel anything. That’s not what sport sedans should be about.
This. And it's 99% as good on track, without punishing your kidneys. MUCH better, advanced suspension design. BMW just makes their cars handle better by putting stiffer springs in.
Correct take. Track performance is irrelevant 100% actually. Because you can have fun at the track with pretty much anything. And a serious track day nut should buy something else rather than an M3 or Giulia
Ho avuto una qv 2022. Ho visto che kw produce un assetto che mantiene tutte le regolazioni DNA. Se una persona ha esigenza di dare un assetto più sportivo ma vivibile alla qv, kW produce l opzione.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772la BMW ha un assetto più rigido ed improntato alla prestazione MA utilizza anche gomme con maggiore impronta a terra ...di diametro esterno più grande e sull anteriore anche più larghe. La BMW ha migliore controllo di trazione, ma per godere di queste auto serve metterli off e imparare a guidare ....non andare forte grazie ai controlli elettronici .
Bmw.....provate a mettere gomme più piccole e strette come la qv,...poi vediamo cosa succede .....e viceversa gomme maggiorate sull alfa, specie davanti.
@@G80M3Cmuch worse in what? Performance wise the QV is better, handling wise it’s better, looks better, much more fun, much more rewarding, much more responsive, better sportiness. This RUclips channel was the only channel I have ever seen stating the m3 has better handling
The M3’s ability to switch between AWD and RWD makes for a killer daily + fun car. Speaking as someone who lives in the alps and has snowy mountains during winter.
@@Bruno-xb2mt It's not that simple. I did daily an M2 for 2 years and it's a pretty good winter car with the right tires. But there's a big difference between a voluntary sunday snow blast and having to commute at 6 AM together with many others going up and down slopes hoping you don't have to take off from a full stop on an incline (ever tried that in an M2 on snow?). It's not impossible, but it's quite stressful. I appreciate my GR Yaris permanent all wheel drive that I have now that I live in a mountainous region.
I m in same situation in Alps but I do feel like going for Giulia anyway. Rear will drive will do it as well in Alps mainly because the road are mainly clean and I gave second car or adding stud tyre on it ? 😇
I absolutely love the M3 touring and as a M340i touring driver the logic choice would be the M3 but that Giulia, ohhh boy! I might prefer the Giulia. I had the chance to drive one for a few hundred chilometers and what a car it is! Just glorious!
Ya anyone who says the Giulia is garbage or just an FCA parts bin car has never driven one. Easily one of if not the best sports sedan steering/chassis ever made. Makes most BMW’s feel numb and lethargic by comparison.
@@jjchockeyAgreed. We own a Giulia QF and the steering feel is amazing, which cannot be said about current BMW models. I don’t know what happened to BMW since the introduction of the F series generation. The steering feels vague and lacks any communication, which is a far cry from our 130i with electric steering. I really want to like BMWs still, but sadly they’ve dropped the ball, both in design language and in driving characteristics
Just looking at it, the Giulia puts me in a good mood, it smells like a real car made for the pleasure of those who drive it, with a functional determination, not the result of fashion.
What I criticise on this BMW and also Mercedes and others, they’re so expensive and put basically only two tablets as screens in front of the driver with zero design. Alfa has nicely integrated the screen into the dashboard to maintain the old school sportive feeling. At least also Porsche does that. Also the front looks ugly with these huge “kidneys”. But of course the BMW is overall also a dream car. Of course Alfa’s infotainment system is outdated as it’s old. To me Alfa will always have a soul and will not just be car or a thing. 🍀
QV owner so I am possibly biased but also not an entirely fair comparison using a fully loaded (carbon brakes and seats) xdrive estate vs a standard QV saloon. The equivalent M3 may still win on paper anyhow but it would fail the “car park look back” test every time.
Considering how much older the Alfa is in comparison yet still managing to compete with the BMW in 2024 is a testament to the brilliance of Alfa engineers (skunkworks) under Fiat Chairman Sergio Marchionne all those years ago. However, the new M3 is fresher and it shows Alfa under the Stellantis group has the capability and resources to come up with an epic best-in-class successor and if so Chairman Tavares can use Ferrari engineers if he so chooses!
@scherpebocht I can't believe how people could be so wrong. The Alfa is UNDENIABLY better looking. And it is a better driving car. Better steering, more advanced and compliant suspension. There's no doubt. Go drive one and then come back and tell us. You clearly have never driven a Giulia, we know this. 🙄
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 maybe the GTA but the design is way out dated its almost 10 years old there is no way its better looking, and yes ive driven a Giulia but a rental diesel i didnt like the interior layout and the flippers not being attached to the steering wheel
They still make the QV? What a handsdown gorgeous and timeless car. It wins just for timeless looks. Who buys cars anyways anymore with current prices... lease the BMW buy the Guilia and and park it and just stare at it.
@@hassanger8128yes because sales numbers means something is better 😂. The general public has no taste. It looks far better and is much more fun, engaging, and characterful.
@jjchockey Yes, sales figures means your product is good and people like and buy it. When sales figures are so low, it means that people don't like the product and it is a failed one. That's why Guilia GV is discontinued.
I came out of an f90 m5 to my QV and the QV was hands down the better car to drive. The m5 had a better interior and more tech and more space but if I were to buy one tomorrow it would be the alfa all day and I also had an f82 m4 comp immediately before the m5 which felt heavy and inert next to the QV
Is it wrong that I want to buy all the QV's in existence and lock them in a garage for posterity ? I think as cars go electric it will be well remembered as possibly the greatest 4 door sport sedan of all time.
Just a small correction: previous differential in QV wasn't electronically controlled LSD, it was a TV (torque vectoring) diff, whch by its nature has to be electronically controlled. Not only it was unpredictable (spinning inner wheel from time to time), it would also overheat on track, and it behaved like an open diff until 50 km/h (30 mp/h). Its great on paper, but software for it was a problem not performing as it should.
Your prayers have been answered but unfortunately I beat you to it 😁. Picked Mine up 3 days ago, 34k miles in a steal of a deal and I will never let this car go. I wish you lots of luck finding one because these cars are like a beautiful woman that’s in love with you. I don’t know how else to describe them
Had my Giulia for over 3 years now, and i still love it. I agree it's a 7 or 8 tenths of a car but if you don't do track day, that's fine. I've had 40 mpg on a long motorway run in it's most efficient mode and very comfortable too. Rare and great looking with lots of positive comments. I would consider the M3 touring next though.. Let's not forget the Alfa is now 8 years old and they are still in tests with much newer cars.
You can pick up the Giulia for £70k brand new right now, versus that spec Beemer will be nearer £90k with carbon seats & brakes. Not really a straight head-to-head.
I think maybe reviews get super Salons wrong , the question they need to answer is can you put your entire family in the car and drive cross country and when everyone is asleep enjoy your drive. i don't want a stiff ride at 5 tenth cause that's normally where id be driving with the family, a super salon should have rounded edges it should not be track-capable or "Nurburgring" tested, I think ultimately that's why most people end up buying M5 or RS6 ,RS7 or the Giulia, basically I want a fast car that can comfortably carry the family, not race my thoughts any
That's perhaps a warm saloon like an S Audi but anything flagship (Ms, 63s, RSes) should be able to be driven at 10/10 without feeling like you're going to slide off the road.
@@wasdwasdwwasd that’s not how it used to be. The M cars used to be great daily drivers, and yet still you could get the 335i or 535i beneath them. These M cars are too stiff. If the M3 had a suspension setting that was 20-30% softer than the current softest setting that would do it. But I wonder if it’s even possible given the weight.
Why, if it's a super saloon it should also be track performance capable, that's what the "super" is for. If you don't need that performance then just go down a model and get an M340i or an M550i, they're way better looking, more comfortable, plenty fast enough in their own right and you save a fair chunk of money for the trouble.. Why do you want the sportiest version available from launch and then complain when you have to make more compromises?
By the “old” standards most of the mid range saloons are “super saloons”. You get 250bhp 2.0l petrol or diesel engines in basic specced models. 3.0l models are plenty quick enough for hauling your family and being quick enough to lose your license. The super saloon term evolved. You do not need them, you want or desire them. You can buy a house in parts of the UK for the m3 money. You don’t compare them to the m3s/m5s of old.
I have a 2018 QV, and my company pays for it. It's time to replace it, so I drove the new M3. It's unbelievable that the ride is so harsh on bad roads, even with all the technology that they have to tweak it. I was going to get a 2024 QV, but I love the tri-coat Competition Red so I'm keeping it. I've owned many AMGs, M-cars, and Ferraris, and the QV is my favorite period.
I've owned an M5C, M2C as well as a Giulia and Stelvio QVs. I miss the Alfas way more than the M cars (currently have an M850i "fake M") If I was to pick between these choices, I'd pick the Giulia. there was just something special about ownining a Quadrifolgio whereas the M always felt like a slightly faster 5 series. If I was to rank them, it would be Giulia/Stelvio tied for #1, followed by M2C and then M5C.
No BMW owner would say a fake M car on the M850, which is faster and quicker than many super cars. I'm really tired of these fake comments who buy Alfa on RUclips, whereas no one is buying Alfa in reality. That's why Alfa has discontinued most of its cars, and it is currently a broke and sad company.
@@hassanger8128 Thats why i put it in quotation marks because that's what others refer to it. My M850i actually has an E85 tune and makes more power than an M8.
Love my Giulia QF. I'm sure technically the BMW is better, but for me there is no comparison. Aspired to get one for years & now I'm fortunate enough I could treat myself. If you have the opportunity don't hesitate. If I've had a bad day, I give it a bit of a blast on the way home & the world becomes good again.
The QV „from behind the wheel“ is actually closer to a Ferrari FF or a Maserati Ghibli than to an M3 or Merc. And I say that as a BMW guy. Truly special car. One of the all time greats.
My choice is Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio on the looks alone and the V6 is just awesome add AKRAPOVIČ to it and it's just a symphony. Another great video James :)
Great review, thank you. I know all the reviewers talk about chassis when they mean suspension and you made the same mistake when talking about the M3 but they are two completely different things. Keep up the good work, great video.
Yes exactly- surprised the reviewer didn't call that out, instead of being suckered in by the fake raspberry noises. I mean, I can sit in my bath and make pretty convincing motorboat sounds but ultimately I'm just a sagging, balding old guy sitting in the tub going 'vroom vroom.'
Fantastic video! The Alfa has future classic written all over it. Like you said, a wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Mine is a daily driver but a weekend warrior. Heart vs head? Maybe, but I vote for the Guilia Quadrifoglio!
Good review, but to clarify, it's a comfortably £90k car vs essentially a £70k car. The BMW is nice, but I'd take the M4 over the M3. However I couldn't walk away from an Alfa super saloon against either of the M cars.
I’ve been fortunate enough to have an f80 M3 and a Giulia QV - maybe I didn’t do enough with the M3, but took the Giulia to the alps, definitely preferred the Alfa
Steering ratio: Giulia - 11.8, M3 - 14.6... Not sure how that translates to same feel on the steering wheel, honestly. Maybe progressive steering is done differently, but the rack should not feel the same at all. German cars as a rule don't have an aggressive steering ratio
The M3 hideous looks is enough to deter any weak hearted being. But put in the beautiful driving dynamics gorgeous looks and direct steering and the beautiful engine sound Alfa produces it’s an easy decision. M3 is just A car. Alfa is one of a life time generation beautiful Ferrari creation. A future classic for sure .
I've stopped the video when I've heard the BMW has a better steering and front end compared to the Giulia. It's a complete and utter bs. I've driven both and handling wise, the Alfa is not a fraction, but miles better than the BMW, while BMW engine is superior at the top end. Automotive journalists, especially europeans, are on the germans payroll, all of them. They always downplay the pros of cars that are competing with the germans than 10 years later they come up with new videos of the same car calling it "an underrated gem", it's getting ridicolous frankly.
If new bmw wants to compete with 7 year old Alfa , thats the prof that giulia is Justin another level..maybe bmw is faster and more aggresive , but Giulia has stye and pure class.. driving plesure…
Design, character, sound, driving experience, the Giulia Quadrifoglio is on another level. The BMW M3 is great and very fast, but without a soul and too serious to be fun to drive.
Alfa looks beautiful inside and out, buttons and knobs brilliant, most of us want a quick but every day car, to much adjustment not necessary, a good car set up doesn’t need constant changes with buttons etc.
The M3 is very good, no doubt. But the QV does all that, but also feels more special and looks gorgeous! Perhaps I’m a bit biased but I think most would agree.
Both these cars are incredible BUT the Alfa is the only one i`d choose because however good the BMW is i simply would not consider it because of how it looks...
In 2020+ giulias they messed up the steering because many idiots complained about tire skipping in low speed maneuvers due to the very small ackermann angle. Overall Pre-2020 had much sharper steering.
I own M4 comp and one thing is certain... After I drove Giulia QV my car feels like an elephant. You can really feel it's weight and heavy steering. I don't know what changes were made to 2024 model that feeling was different
@@hassanger8128 ...sales figures on the Alfa are low because everybody believes what you've just wrote. Which isn't true of course, but only a few know it (the actual Alfa owners).
@@hassanger8128Source: I took it out of my ass Funny, all the videos speak well of the Giulia, being a relatively reliable car in its category, but the Indian "hassanger" said no, we will certainly trust his fanboy opinions.
Why does the M3 need so many adjustable drive modes? Top much tech , just because. Once one sets a car up, one rarely changes it. I prefer more analogue. I will take the Alfa Romeo please (as all true car lovers would).
I don't want to spend half a day programming in the drive modes. I rather have expert Alfa engineer drivers to it as they can probably do it better than I. Maybe it would be fun to do that if I was a young techie.
Just by posting such a pathetic, childish, trolling comment like that, tells everyone who sees it, exactly who the chavvy, spivvy, oik wanker is. A car is just a car, and by labelling every person who drives a certain car as the same, you are being an absolute melon. I own a BMW M2, but I love the Alfa too. Because I'm a real petrolhead, and also an adult.
For me it's simple. They're very close mechanically, in the way they feel and drive. However, the looks? Hannibal Lecter or Sophia Loren? Make mine an Alfa. Plus they'll let you out at junctions! 😂😂
Personally I would opt for the BMW. The M division has years of experience and successes to support it, and then there is the legendary german quality and reliability. On top of that, I find the Alfa Quadrifoglio’s looks haven’t aged all that well. The car decidedly looks a good generation older than the BMW. But I’m sure the Alfa has its charm and the engine sings a nice song. 😎
Alfa engine is basically a Ferrari engine, which has current F1 etc racing experience, and BMW hasn't done much real racing for years. M is just a badge😅
@@flacjacketYes. According to the Consumer Report, BMW is the most reliable auto manufacturer in 2023. Surpassing even Toyota and Lexus. Alfa is broke for a reason
The real deal exhaust sound in the QV. The BMW artificial sounds bugs me to no end. It's dishonest and not authentic. The least BMW can do is provide a selection of artificial sounds perhaps sound of a playing card flicked by wheel spokes, rubber band airplane sound, etc.
Giulias have proven to be more reliable than their german counterparts over the last 8 years, idk what has happened to the Germans but Porsche seems to be the only German manufacturer who can build a reliable car.
There is enough evidence to prove this statement false. E.g. the Giulia Quadrifoglio vs the F80 M3 (last gen) had lots of issues during that comparison. I had zero issues with my F80 M3 from 2017-2022 (could have went GQ but didn't) and recent new G80 M3 Competition for the past year and change.
ALFA-ROMEO GIULIA QV. This thing may have Alfa-Romeo badges, but really, it's a 4-door Ferrari. TheGiulia's development was helmed by a former chief technical engineer from Ferarri. The all new 2.9l twin turbo V6 510hp engine was the exact same copy as the twin turbo V8 from the Ferrari California T, minus the two cylinders. Carbon fiber was used for the hood, roof, driveshaft, seats, and more, but all the aluminum parts that were used for 85% of the car were done. Where? Ferarri's foundry. The active aerodynamics were tuned in at Ferarri's F1 wind tunnel. The chassis, suspension, and driveline were also developed by Ferarri. After knowing all of the ubove, which of the two cars are more special and unique?
I have a 2024 M3 Competition. It's by far the best car I've ever owned. The car drives like a family sedan when you're just zipping around town. But make no mistake. The moment you get on the accelerator on a straight line or coming out of a corner you're immediately reminded that you're in a proper M car. There's nothing better for the money imo.
Have a guess which of the two cars @supremeetnel7707 would go for. It takes a big advantage in dynamics at ten tenths to make up for having butt cheeks for a grille. ;)
Valid point, I was one of those people. Kind of like those individuals who hate on a Maserati (Maserati GranSport built by Ferrari) and have no clue. But yes, you are right.
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Which gets your vote?
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or BMW M3?
Alfa 🍀
How are u guys a car channel and ur going to use bmws on paper numbers 😂 their 0-60 and HP are severely understated
Honestly these 2 are my fav(BMW 3 first & Alfa Romeo Giulia qv second) so i'l take em both😂😅
Well BMW gives you more options, for any taste you can find something, there is M3 and M3 Competition and M3 CS...there is AWD or RWD, manual or auto, Touring or Coupe or Cabrio versions...you can have even M performance so 340i which is very very good car...not to mention ALPINA versions...also BMW is good at strong diesels, 340d and 330d...all aboce is absent at Alfa, finally 325d/330i and 320d the Apfa has an answer...with Veloce models...that is why they do not sell amazingly, not enough offer...and then they are missing what BMW has with interior options in so many different upholster and colors and seat options...not to even mention Individual program.
But yeah Alfa looks amazing outside, less inside...I like Alfa...but this time BMW is better (like always in the past when Alfas was underpowered amd fwd mostly)
I am so sad that Giulia is finished with production this summer...and successor will be EV 👎
M3 without a doubt. My American heart yearns for the forbidden M3 Touring
I hate giant screens in cars, the Alfa interior is so perfect for me, just a nice little screen that flows wonderfully into the dash, not some giant tablet monstrosity slapped on like an afterthought
I agree 100%. And you don't know how much it cost Alfa to implement such a customized screen compared to a common tablet slammed on the dashboard. I remember an interview with one of the leaders of the development team talking about this.
Question of good taste
Me too. This is why I ordered a 2022 M3, not a 2023 with the huge screens.
I HATE those stupid tablet screens. I look at a screen all day at work. I don’t want to stare at one when I’m trying to enjoy my drive. It’s LAZY interior design work by BMW. Shame on them.
@@rvc25 Basically by any car manufacturer nowadays. I guess Tesla started that crap. And then everyone was getting nervous and thought this is the future. When in fact Tesla just managed to sell you a non existing interior as a futuristic interior. Very stupid from german premium manufacturers to follow that path as a screen looks just as cheap in a Mercedes as it looks in a Toyota.
The Alfa is 7 years older! No one seems to let that sink in. It’s monumental given its age, still.
Agreed.
Agreed..Alfa Q🍀 is outdated. Remember when M3 alone on the top for years and along came Alfa and given M3 a run for the money which no one believed possible. They done a great job.
7? It debuted in 2015. The G80 released at the end of 2020.
@@Hkt4567 and yet bmw m3/4 sold more cars the Giulia and Stelvio QV combined together ☝️ I wonder why 😄😄😄
@@Top_g80comp lol
I honestly think the Giulia is one of the best looking modern four door sedans ever made.
Definitely. After all these years it still puts a smile on my face when I walk to it. And I always have to look back at it after stepping out. There really is nothing out there that compares to it. Which is why it's the car I've owned the longest. The craziest part is that it's also the most reliable car I've ever owned!
I do wish they'd made a sport wagon version though.
A future classic, these will be very collectable after production ends.
İt will hapoen with 600 hp@@PaulWatsonM
I honestly think it's not good looking at all, especially by Alfa's standards.
I've had the Giulia for 5 years. Competition red. Looks, sounds and drives great. Stands out from the crowd.
On my second Guilia - Veloce to QV. Will never sell the QV. It’s a keeper.
@@jez987s Even the 280 hp Veloce's are a pleasure to drive! I'm a owner of a 2022 Veloce Q4 and i really love the car.
I would have been interested in a Guilia but they didn’t offer a manual so I went with the M3
@@FreshlySnipes Due to low demand, the manual Giulia Quadrifoglio was discontinued at the end of 2018. Only 5% of customers chose a manual Giulia. You might still be able to get them used, but an M3 would never be an option for me once you've had a Giulia. Still not a bad choice.
hows reliability?
I would take the QV in a heart beat and I did !!. it's just one of those cars that are built once in a generation. It is a future classic and will be considered one of the greatest cars ever built in time to come.
I own a 2017 gulia quad, and I never want to sell it. The sound and the way it drives is just phenomenal
Me too
Me to Stelvio QF other than maybe for Giulia.
How’s the motor? Heard for a while that motors not very great. Obviously there’s haters and all that but you own one. How is it?
Yeah it’s great, I had a few faults with the fuel pump and fuel line, but all work was carried out with the warranty . So so far so good
Is the QV reliable ? I heard that the QV is a little problematic, how is your experience so far ?
Owned my Alfa quad a year now and absolutely love it. I looked at buying an m3/m4 but the Alfa had me on looks alone let alone how it drives. The bmw was way too common also and the amount of lovely comments I get from strangers on my Alfa just makes the car even nicer.
The m3 is better in every way and it’s not close.
@@G80M3C in your opinion but glad that’s not my opinion 👍
@Gabe_B-1 Gulia looks better. Might be a bit slower, but as a daily sedan, the gulia is the car to have. Sounds awesome perfroms wonderfully on the road. It's just a perfect package.
QV owner here. Hands down, one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Sure the interior is a bit dated. However, less is more. The driving experience of the QV, is on a whole different level.
Vieillot ou classique intemporel ?
Deffo - just make sure you have the radar blocker as they are easily stolen with that flaw!
Honestly I love the interior! I don’t like giant flat screen TVs in the car
I've owned the QV for 4 years and I daily drive it. Rosso Competizione with Sparco carbon seats.
Beautiful, unique, sexy.. The feel, the sound.
I'll be ok..
I’m looking at buy one this year. Would you recommend one with the cf Sparco seats or the normal seats?
@Mario_RX7 YES. Most comfortable seats I've ever owned and they take the interior to another level in looks.
Hey, I owned two RX7's when I was younger. You have good taste..
@ currently looking at a few but none have the Sparco seats, I will just be more patient then👍. Also awesome! WE have great taste in cars haha! Nothing more fun than pure drivers cars 🏎️
I love the fact that both of these cars exist and you can pick whichever car speaks to you more.
best comment
Both cars are epic but I prefer Alfa.
I just hate the fact that I can't afford any of them.
@@FefyGT I hate the fact that i love the Alfa but at the same time i am convinced that an Alfa should be a little bit more affordable than high end BMW or Mercedes models. But this one isn´t. And thats why you don´t see them on the streets :/
Very true. Would be a shame if they felt similar.
Im a QV owner and admit that the M3 is probably a better car. That said, I still prefer the Italian. I like that it's simpler. All the settings on the bmw and the giant screen would overwhelm me. The Alfa has more soul. Also, an Xdrive M3 will end up costing much more than the QV. Don't get me wrong, love the M3.
I own an xDrive M3 and it is awesome. But I likewise love and respect the QV and really want to drive one.
You said correct: soul.
what does 'better car' mean?
@@bpp325 Probably something different for anyone. But for most people better quality in some aspects and up to date tech plays a big role. That´s why german cars for example sell much better.
@@bpp325 0.1 seconds faster. 2inch bigger screen, ridiculously expensive options that aren't on a car you will buy what else.... Heavier steering, grand tourismo sounds effects.
If the much older Alfa makes BMW sweat so much, the Alfa must be a damn good car!
Alfas have been making the GERMANS sweat for over 100 years... that is WHY VW GROUP has tried to buy them 3+ times!
@@giulimarconi1715 Sweating when their Alfa has broken down again. (I still love them)
@@Lukas-eh4cfWell i drove 156 2.0 ts and it had no issues. In two years 120 000 km. I totaled it in the end. 😢. My Best and most beautiful car. Now i drvenih Audi A3 2.0 benzin. Its good but no Alfa Romeo.
@@johnkisch240 I have a 2002 156 with the 1.8TS and the full Momo leather facelift interior. It now has about 230.000km, gets pushed hard and never let me down. I absolutely love this car!
@@Lukas-eh4cfM3 is not reliable. It's in the top 10 most unreliable cars. Check out the warranty videos
The Alfa Romeo Giulia is, at least to me, the most beautiful car I have ever seen
Beauty and the beast. You choose.
Agrred
@@2112Tix The Giulia is both. 😉
I always think better in the metal.
People forget what sport sedans were originally about. They weren’t track weapons, they were liveable cars with a ton of performance. You’re not supposed to notice the difference because if you’re going fast enough that you need an M3s capabilities you’re losing your license. The reviewer says the M3 is more rewarding at 10/10ths. But this is a road review, I seriously doubt he got the car anywhere close to its limits.
Taking delivery of a 2024 QV in a few weeks. Test drove the M3. I believe it when people say it would be faster than the Giulia on a track, although obviously I didn’t get to explore it at 10/10ths.
But the big question is, how often are you able to track these cars? Every weekend? Maybe go M3. A few times a year or less? The Giulia is my pick. It’s a much more well rounded car, the ride isn’t punishing when in A or N mode. Even D is liveable. You’ve always got Race mode if you want a ton of fun. But you can’t really use it responsibly on public roads on a regular basis. And while the M3 is a better track car you also can’t use its capabilities on a regular basis.
Tom Baker at Chasing Cars has a good comparison between the M3 and the Giulia and I think he gets it right. His take is also consistent with his view on the M550i as the actual modern successor to the M5. A liveable yet very fast and sporty sedan. You WANT a bit of roll in corners, this helps you feel the sensation of speed. If you’re flat you need to go ever faster to feel anything. That’s not what sport sedans should be about.
This. And it's 99% as good on track, without punishing your kidneys. MUCH better, advanced suspension design. BMW just makes their cars handle better by putting stiffer springs in.
Correct take. Track performance is irrelevant 100% actually. Because you can have fun at the track with pretty much anything. And a serious track day nut should buy something else rather than an M3 or Giulia
Ho avuto una qv 2022. Ho visto che kw produce un assetto che mantiene tutte le regolazioni DNA. Se una persona ha esigenza di dare un assetto più sportivo ma vivibile alla qv, kW produce l opzione.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772la BMW ha un assetto più rigido ed improntato alla prestazione MA utilizza anche gomme con maggiore impronta a terra ...di diametro esterno più grande e sull anteriore anche più larghe.
La BMW ha migliore controllo di trazione, ma per godere di queste auto serve metterli off e imparare a guidare ....non andare forte grazie ai controlli elettronici .
Bmw.....provate a mettere gomme più piccole e strette come la qv,...poi vediamo cosa succede .....e viceversa gomme maggiorate sull alfa, specie davanti.
Giulia QV all day everyday . No need to have fake sounds from speakers 😂
It’s a much worse car.
Thats all you got? Thats what makes a car good? Having no fake sound. Ok buddy lmfao.
@@G80M3Cmuch worse in what? Performance wise the QV is better, handling wise it’s better, looks better, much more fun, much more rewarding, much more responsive, better sportiness. This RUclips channel was the only channel I have ever seen stating the m3 has better handling
@@swansmeisterread what I sent, if you have sat in both, the QV is miles ahead as what 90% of the reviews say
The M3’s ability to switch between AWD and RWD makes for a killer daily + fun car. Speaking as someone who lives in the alps and has snowy mountains during winter.
Sounds like the perfect car for you.
Just get winter tires lol
@@Bruno-xb2mt It's not that simple. I did daily an M2 for 2 years and it's a pretty good winter car with the right tires. But there's a big difference between a voluntary sunday snow blast and having to commute at 6 AM together with many others going up and down slopes hoping you don't have to take off from a full stop on an incline (ever tried that in an M2 on snow?). It's not impossible, but it's quite stressful. I appreciate my GR Yaris permanent all wheel drive that I have now that I live in a mountainous region.
I m in same situation in Alps but I do feel like going for Giulia anyway. Rear will drive will do it as well in Alps mainly because the road are mainly clean and I gave second car or adding stud tyre on it ? 😇
@@MrsCap2 I have a RWD second car already so an AWD daily is perfect 😃
I absolutely love the M3 touring and as a M340i touring driver the logic choice would be the M3 but that Giulia, ohhh boy! I might prefer the Giulia. I had the chance to drive one for a few hundred chilometers and what a car it is! Just glorious!
Ya anyone who says the Giulia is garbage or just an FCA parts bin car has never driven one. Easily one of if not the best sports sedan steering/chassis ever made. Makes most BMW’s feel numb and lethargic by comparison.
@@jjchockeyAgreed. We own a Giulia QF and the steering feel is amazing, which cannot be said about current BMW models.
I don’t know what happened to BMW since the introduction of the F series generation. The steering feels vague and lacks any communication, which is a far cry from our 130i with electric steering.
I really want to like BMWs still, but sadly they’ve dropped the ball, both in design language and in driving characteristics
The Guilias 5 year old interior design has aged better than the m3s 0 year old interior.
That's because the Giulia has a timeless quality to it. It will look good another 5 years from now while this M3 will appear outdated.
@@Ronnetits not about the quality, its about the design
@@Ronnetin 5 or 7 years we’ll look back at the giant IPAD strapped to the dash like we look bag at the 996 Porsche egg headlights 😂
I’d take the Alfa dash any day. Love the way the screen is integrated into the dash. Hate the tablet stuck on dash look in the BMW.
Just looking at it, the Giulia puts me in a good mood, it smells like a real car made for the pleasure of those who drive it, with a functional determination, not the result of fashion.
wow well said.
What I criticise on this BMW and also Mercedes and others, they’re so expensive and put basically only two tablets as screens in front of the driver with zero design. Alfa has nicely integrated the screen into the dashboard to maintain the old school sportive feeling. At least also Porsche does that. Also the front looks ugly with these huge “kidneys”. But of course the BMW is overall also a dream car. Of course Alfa’s infotainment system is outdated as it’s old. To me Alfa will always have a soul and will not just be car or a thing. 🍀
I couldnt care how good the M3 is the Giulia is the best looking saloon by far and the QV is the king.
QV owner so I am possibly biased but also not an entirely fair comparison using a fully loaded (carbon brakes and seats) xdrive estate vs a standard QV saloon. The equivalent M3 may still win on paper anyhow but it would fail the “car park look back” test every time.
Considering how much older the Alfa is in comparison yet still managing to compete with the BMW in 2024 is a testament to the brilliance of Alfa engineers (skunkworks) under Fiat Chairman Sergio Marchionne all those years ago. However, the new M3 is fresher and it shows Alfa under the Stellantis group has the capability and resources to come up with an epic best-in-class successor and if so Chairman Tavares can use Ferrari engineers if he so chooses!
Ferrari non fa parte di Stellantis
They've already said there wont be another combustion Giulia, it will be electric unfortunately
There is no competition here.The alfa is like a fiat 500 compared to a Ferrari in this comparison
I love the M3 but the Giulia is better i take the Giulia for sure!
Better or better looking?
@@beastofackworthboth
Not even close
@scherpebocht I can't believe how people could be so wrong. The Alfa is UNDENIABLY better looking. And it is a better driving car. Better steering, more advanced and compliant suspension. There's no doubt. Go drive one and then come back and tell us. You clearly have never driven a Giulia, we know this. 🙄
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 maybe the GTA but the design is way out dated its almost 10 years old there is no way its better looking, and yes ive driven a Giulia but a rental diesel i didnt like the interior layout and the flippers not being attached to the steering wheel
Heart - Alfa. Head - beemer. Both absolutely incredible. Great video.
I love BMW, but the Alfa looks better.
Alfa=❤
Agreed
Looks like an alien doofus thing. What 😂 they even copied bmw headlights and added an extra.
I am proud to say, i bought the Guilia about a month ago and LOVE it. The drive is excellent, much better than my X5, or Q5, or my Mercedes.
amazing, got mine this week! can't wait
ROFL.
Alfa has sold only 12 Guilia QF last quarter.
I don't know where is the massive buying force on RUclips from buying their beloved Alfa.
@@hassanger8128why you hating so much? Lol
@@hassanger8128True, but notorially people don’t understand cars
@@hassanger8128Who cares about sales? Don't like the car? It's simple, don't buy it. No one here is forcing you to buy.
passion, style, sound = Alfa all dayyy
Brilliant review I would take the Alfa if given the chance
They still make the QV? What a handsdown gorgeous and timeless car. It wins just for timeless looks. Who buys cars anyways anymore with current prices... lease the BMW buy the Guilia and and park it and just stare at it.
Yes, that's why no one is buying Alfa.
People are buying them on the comments here only.
Looks better in the metal.
@@hassanger8128yes because sales numbers means something is better 😂. The general public has no taste. It looks far better and is much more fun, engaging, and characterful.
@@hassanger8128actually, in 2024, Alfa is the 2nd fastest selling car company in the United States, Mazda being number one.
@jjchockey Yes, sales figures means your product is good and people like and buy it.
When sales figures are so low, it means that people don't like the product and it is a failed one.
That's why Guilia GV is discontinued.
I came out of an f90 m5 to my QV and the QV was hands down the better car to drive. The m5 had a better interior and more tech and more space but if I were to buy one tomorrow it would be the alfa all day and I also had an f82 m4 comp immediately before the m5 which felt heavy and inert next to the QV
Which one spends more time in the repair shop ?
The qv is much worse to drive then those 2 you either have brain damage or are lying Italian fanboy😂
That Alfa will make you fill with joy when you turnback and look at it after parking.
It looks much worse then the m3 and outdated 😂
Alfa 🍀 just bought it😎 Rosso Etna full Carbob😜 Top Sedan For me👍
Fair play, I have a Stevlio quad, be ready for 19-20mpg :) They just evaporate petrol..
@@joper90no problem i will keep for my sons! 4C to one Giulia QV for the other! Giulia QV grow up the value very soon like it Was for my 4C👍.
@@joper90 20 mpg is not bad at all at 500hp. pretty much unheard of 10 years ago
Is it wrong that I want to buy all the QV's in existence and lock them in a garage for posterity ? I think as cars go electric it will be well remembered as possibly the greatest 4 door sport sedan of all time.
Just a small correction: previous differential in QV wasn't electronically controlled LSD, it was a TV (torque vectoring) diff, whch by its nature has to be electronically controlled. Not only it was unpredictable (spinning inner wheel from time to time), it would also overheat on track, and it behaved like an open diff until 50 km/h (30 mp/h). Its great on paper, but software for it was a problem not performing as it should.
Wonder if you can put the newer diff in?
@@coldvaper Mechanically yes, but some program coding is needed. Still waiting for first report of a successful upgrade.
I appeal to all people with money and ask them to buy an Alfa Romeo so that in a few years I can also afford a second-hand one. Thank you :)))
Brilliant strategy! Love it.
Your prayers have been answered but unfortunately I beat you to it 😁. Picked
Mine up 3 days ago, 34k miles in a steal of a deal and I will never let this car go. I wish you lots of luck finding one because these cars are like a beautiful woman that’s in love with you. I don’t know how else to describe them
I did, but unfortunately for you I'm never letting it go!
Had my Giulia for over 3 years now, and i still love it.
I agree it's a 7 or 8 tenths of a car but if you don't do track day, that's fine.
I've had 40 mpg on a long motorway run in it's most efficient mode and very comfortable too.
Rare and great looking with lots of positive comments.
I would consider the M3 touring next though..
Let's not forget the Alfa is now 8 years old and they are still in tests with much newer cars.
You can pick up the Giulia for £70k brand new right now, versus that spec Beemer will be nearer £90k with carbon seats & brakes. Not really a straight head-to-head.
Ye it’s not a comparison the m3 is better in every way and it even looks better
I think maybe reviews get super Salons wrong , the question they need to answer is can you put your entire family in the car and drive cross country and when everyone is asleep enjoy your drive. i don't want a stiff ride at 5 tenth cause that's normally where id be driving with the family, a super salon should have rounded edges it should not be track-capable or "Nurburgring" tested, I think ultimately that's why most people end up buying M5 or RS6 ,RS7 or the Giulia, basically I want a fast car that can comfortably carry the family, not race my thoughts any
That's perhaps a warm saloon like an S Audi but anything flagship (Ms, 63s, RSes) should be able to be driven at 10/10 without feeling like you're going to slide off the road.
@@wasdwasdwwasd that’s not how it used to be. The M cars used to be great daily drivers, and yet still you could get the 335i or 535i beneath them. These M cars are too stiff. If the M3 had a suspension setting that was 20-30% softer than the current softest setting that would do it. But I wonder if it’s even possible given the weight.
Why, if it's a super saloon it should also be track performance capable, that's what the "super" is for. If you don't need that performance then just go down a model and get an M340i or an M550i, they're way better looking, more comfortable, plenty fast enough in their own right and you save a fair chunk of money for the trouble..
Why do you want the sportiest version available from launch and then complain when you have to make more compromises?
By the “old” standards most of the mid range saloons are “super saloons”. You get 250bhp 2.0l petrol or diesel engines in basic specced models. 3.0l models are plenty quick enough for hauling your family and being quick enough to lose your license. The super saloon term evolved. You do not need them, you want or desire them. You can buy a house in parts of the UK for the m3 money. You don’t compare them to the m3s/m5s of old.
Being a hardcore Mechanical lover, I would go for Alfa Romeo. It feels so intuitive and connected for a spirited drive.
I have a 2018 QV, and my company pays for it. It's time to replace it, so I drove the new M3. It's unbelievable that the ride is so harsh on bad roads, even with all the technology that they have to tweak it. I was going to get a 2024 QV, but I love the tri-coat Competition Red so I'm keeping it. I've owned many AMGs, M-cars, and Ferraris, and the QV is my favorite period.
Giulia is better
at looking like a sales reps car.
@H-jb4tfxDDD Golf R is nowhere close to this class of a car
In what. In cost of oil change? Man just oil change cost 350€ in Giulia😅
Not even the rims🤣🤡
in your dreams
Another brilliant video! Alfa for me everyday.
I've owned an M5C, M2C as well as a Giulia and Stelvio QVs. I miss the Alfas way more than the M cars (currently have an M850i "fake M") If I was to pick between these choices, I'd pick the Giulia. there was just something special about ownining a Quadrifolgio whereas the M always felt like a slightly faster 5 series.
If I was to rank them, it would be Giulia/Stelvio tied for #1, followed by M2C and then M5C.
You just had a toyota starlet man, give up!
I’m guessing your M2 was an F87?
@@joetacchino4470 yes, with a Stage 1 tune.
No BMW owner would say a fake M car on the M850, which is faster and quicker than many super cars.
I'm really tired of these fake comments who buy Alfa on RUclips, whereas no one is buying Alfa in reality.
That's why Alfa has discontinued most of its cars, and it is currently a broke and sad company.
@@hassanger8128 Thats why i put it in quotation marks because that's what others refer to it.
My M850i actually has an E85 tune and makes more power than an M8.
Love my Giulia QF. I'm sure technically the BMW is better, but for me there is no comparison. Aspired to get one for years & now I'm fortunate enough I could treat myself. If you have the opportunity don't hesitate.
If I've had a bad day, I give it a bit of a blast on the way home & the world becomes good again.
I will never get used to the front end on the current gen Bmws I don’t care how brilliant.
The QV „from behind the wheel“ is actually closer to a Ferrari FF or a Maserati Ghibli than to an M3 or Merc. And I say that as a BMW guy. Truly special car. One of the all time greats.
A few guys online have had qvs , went to the g80 and are now back in qvs. Speaks volumes.
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My choice is Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio on the looks alone and the V6 is just awesome add AKRAPOVIČ to it and it's just a symphony. Another great video James :)
Go buy it.
It is already discontinued
own a stelvio veloce and never want to sell it. this platform will be hailed in 20 yrs time as a masterpiece of engineering.
I prefer less fiddling with dials and more driving pleasure, the Alfa is simple and answers the brief.
It's 1 button press to turn to full attack in the M3.
Why haven't you bought it then?
@hassanger8128 if that is directed to me I have a 2024 M3 Comp Xdrive.
Great review, thank you.
I know all the reviewers talk about chassis when they mean suspension and you made the same mistake when talking about the M3 but they are two completely different things.
Keep up the good work, great video.
Fake noise pumped in through the bimmer speakers...annoying
Not in the USA.
@@G82Wattslol, absolutely it does. I coded mine FULLY off using Bimmercode. Oh so much better.
Yes, in the USA. I have a '21 M3 Manual. It is easily turned off with Bimmercode.
I heard same and thought urghh.
Yes exactly- surprised the reviewer didn't call that out, instead of being suckered in by the fake raspberry noises. I mean, I can sit in my bath and make pretty convincing motorboat sounds but ultimately I'm just a sagging, balding old guy sitting in the tub going 'vroom vroom.'
M3 Xdrive owner with ultimate pack! Also loads of performance parts. Honestly wouldn’t consider the Alfa over the m3 but do still respect it.
Fantastic video! The Alfa has future classic written all over it. Like you said, a wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Mine is a daily driver but a weekend warrior. Heart vs head? Maybe, but I vote for the Guilia Quadrifoglio!
Good review, but to clarify, it's a comfortably £90k car vs essentially a £70k car. The BMW is nice, but I'd take the M4 over the M3. However I couldn't walk away from an Alfa super saloon against either of the M cars.
I’ve been fortunate enough to have an f80 M3 and a Giulia QV - maybe I didn’t do enough with the M3, but took the Giulia to the alps, definitely preferred the Alfa
Steering ratio: Giulia - 11.8, M3 - 14.6... Not sure how that translates to same feel on the steering wheel, honestly. Maybe progressive steering is done differently, but the rack should not feel the same at all. German cars as a rule don't have an aggressive steering ratio
The M3 hideous looks is enough to deter any weak hearted being. But put in the beautiful driving dynamics gorgeous looks and direct steering and the beautiful engine sound Alfa produces it’s an easy decision. M3 is just A car. Alfa is one of a life time generation beautiful Ferrari creation. A future classic for sure .
Strange you compared the seats straight away when the Gulia didnt have the optional carbon buckets 🤔
I've stopped the video when I've heard the BMW has a better steering and front end compared to the Giulia. It's a complete and utter bs. I've driven both and handling wise, the Alfa is not a fraction, but miles better than the BMW, while BMW engine is superior at the top end. Automotive journalists, especially europeans, are on the germans payroll, all of them. They always downplay the pros of cars that are competing with the germans than 10 years later they come up with new videos of the same car calling it "an underrated gem", it's getting ridicolous frankly.
Both are phenomenal cars. I still can't stand that fugly 4 series grille though, I thought that with time I’d get used to it but...
If new bmw wants to compete with 7 year old Alfa , thats the prof that giulia is Justin another level..maybe bmw is faster and more aggresive , but Giulia has stye and pure class.. driving plesure…
The Giulia QV is just pure drivers car! Nothing but soul and passion when that car was being made.❤
Design, character, sound, driving experience, the Giulia Quadrifoglio is on another level.
The BMW M3 is great and very fast, but without a soul and too serious to be fun to drive.
I saw a new Giulia in black colour just two days ago and it looked amazing. I immediately fell in love.
I would still go for Alfa Romeo. It feels like a proper sports saloon to me. But people who love tech might like the M3 more than t
Will never forget the revelation and experience/joy of driving an Alfasud.
I sold my M4CS and got a 2019 Giulia QV and I LOVE it!!!🍀❤️
Alfa looks beautiful inside and out, buttons and knobs brilliant, most of us want a quick but every day car, to much adjustment not necessary, a good car set up doesn’t need constant changes with buttons etc.
That beautiful Alfa for me....gorgeous!
The M3 is very good, no doubt. But the QV does all that, but also feels more special and looks gorgeous! Perhaps I’m a bit biased but I think most would agree.
Both these cars are incredible BUT the Alfa is the only one i`d choose because however good the BMW is i simply would not consider it because of how it looks...
I have to confess, before I prefer the Giulia all day... but this M3 touring OMG I can´t resist!!! It´s such a beautiful touring!
In 2020+ giulias they messed up the steering because many idiots complained about tire skipping in low speed maneuvers due to the very small ackermann angle. Overall Pre-2020 had much sharper steering.
Own a 2023 QV in Vulcano Black Metallic. Phenomenal vehicle and plan on keeping her.
I own M4 comp and one thing is certain... After I drove Giulia QV my car feels like an elephant. You can really feel it's weight and heavy steering. I don't know what changes were made to 2024 model that feeling was different
Thumbs up for not butchering the name of the car. Respect!
Alfa any day. In 30 years time it will be a classic whereas the M3 will just be another old beemer.
This M3 is one of the best cars in auto history.
Alfa is poor and unreadable, and no one is buying them as well
@@hassanger8128 ...sales figures on the Alfa are low because everybody believes what you've just wrote.
Which isn't true of course, but only a few know it (the actual Alfa owners).
In 30yrs neither will be there. Those days are over.
@@arjunawe Next gen will move to electricity. That’s why these might still hold special value in 30 years.
@@hassanger8128Source: I took it out of my ass
Funny, all the videos speak well of the Giulia, being a relatively reliable car in its category, but the Indian "hassanger" said no, we will certainly trust his fanboy opinions.
Giulia QV please ❤🎉
Why does the M3 need so many adjustable drive modes? Top much tech , just because. Once one sets a car up, one rarely changes it. I prefer more analogue. I will take the Alfa Romeo please (as all true car lovers would).
I don't want to spend half a day programming in the drive modes. I rather have expert Alfa engineer drivers to it as they can probably do it better than I. Maybe it would be fun to do that if I was a young techie.
The Alpha looks much much nicer, especially in that emerald green colour it's brilliant on road.
At least spell the name correctly ffs ... it's an ALFA not an alpha you MELON.
Alfa, all day and everyday, because it’s just plain cool and not styled for and bought by chavs, spivs, oiks and wankers.
Please don't insult us non-BMW owning wankers please.
That's why Alfa sales numbers are skyrocketing 😅🤣😂
Just by posting such a pathetic, childish, trolling comment like that, tells everyone who sees it, exactly who the chavvy, spivvy, oik wanker is.
A car is just a car, and by labelling every person who drives a certain car as the same, you are being an absolute melon.
I own a BMW M2, but I love the Alfa too. Because I'm a real petrolhead, and also an adult.
For me it's simple. They're very close mechanically, in the way they feel and drive. However, the looks? Hannibal Lecter or Sophia Loren? Make mine an Alfa. Plus they'll let you out at junctions! 😂😂
The Giulia with a manual gearbox is a very nice idea.
they only made them for the 2017 QV’s in Europe. Pretty rare find from what i’ve read.
That beautiful Alfa is an absolute winner. I can’t imagine anyone spending a small fortune on a car that looks like the BMW.
Personally I would opt for the BMW. The M division has years of experience and successes to support it, and then there is the legendary german quality and reliability. On top of that, I find the Alfa Quadrifoglio’s looks haven’t aged all that well. The car decidedly looks a good generation older than the BMW. But I’m sure the Alfa has its charm and the engine sings a nice song. 😎
'German reliability.'
Bro what?
@@flacjacket Yeah, the M3 is reliable
Alfa engine is basically a Ferrari engine, which has current F1 etc racing experience, and BMW hasn't done much real racing for years. M is just a badge😅
@@flacjacketYes. According to the Consumer Report, BMW is the most reliable auto manufacturer in 2023. Surpassing even Toyota and Lexus.
Alfa is broke for a reason
Is the m3 engine noise also generated by speakers?
The real deal exhaust sound in the QV. The BMW artificial sounds bugs me to no end. It's dishonest and not authentic. The least BMW can do is provide a selection of artificial sounds perhaps sound of a playing card flicked by wheel spokes, rubber band airplane sound, etc.
The Alfa is a beauty, the new M3 is a monstrosity! I'd take the Alfa all day everyday
M3 is better on paper, but there is something about the alfa when you drive that the m3 doesn’t have for some reason…
Giulias have proven to be more reliable than their german counterparts over the last 8 years, idk what has happened to the Germans but Porsche seems to be the only German manufacturer who can build a reliable car.
There is enough evidence to prove this statement false. E.g. the Giulia Quadrifoglio vs the F80 M3 (last gen) had lots of issues during that comparison. I had zero issues with my F80 M3 from 2017-2022 (could have went GQ but didn't) and recent new G80 M3 Competition for the past year and change.
Completely untrue. The G80s are super reliable
@@seanherrick2657😂
@@thomasferrarojr.9772best response ever !
Tell me the reliability issue with G80/S58 engine
I’d get the Alfa without considering the M3 for a moment.
Giulia of course!
ALFA-ROMEO GIULIA QV. This thing may have Alfa-Romeo badges, but really, it's a 4-door Ferrari.
TheGiulia's development was helmed by a former chief technical engineer from Ferarri.
The all new 2.9l twin turbo V6 510hp engine was the exact same copy as the twin turbo V8 from the Ferrari California T, minus the two cylinders.
Carbon fiber was used for the hood, roof, driveshaft, seats, and more, but all the aluminum parts that were used for 85% of the car were done. Where? Ferarri's foundry.
The active aerodynamics were tuned in at Ferarri's F1 wind tunnel.
The chassis, suspension, and driveline were also developed by Ferarri.
After knowing all of the ubove, which of the two cars are more special and unique?
Giulia is just stunning.
I have a 2024 M3 Competition. It's by far the best car I've ever owned. The car drives like a family sedan when you're just zipping around town. But make no mistake. The moment you get on the accelerator on a straight line or coming out of a corner you're immediately reminded that you're in a proper M car. There's nothing better for the money imo.
seeing alot of comments of people who havent driven the cars saying which one theyd have because of looks.
Your point?
@@karmadel786 Cars are more than just looks.
If they don’t bring looks they bring “Nurburgring times” as if thats the only measure too.
Have a guess which of the two cars @supremeetnel7707 would go for. It takes a big advantage in dynamics at ten tenths to make up for having butt cheeks for a grille. ;)
Valid point, I was one of those people. Kind of like those individuals who hate on a Maserati (Maserati GranSport built by Ferrari) and have no clue. But yes, you are right.
The Alfa's design is still very nice after 7 Years and the entire project is still competent to compete with the modern cars. Just unbelievable!.