Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs BMW M3 | Who makes the better performance car?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 май 2024
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    Alfa Romeo has recently updated its brilliant Giulia Quadrifoglio super saloon, but can it still compete with the likes of the BMW M3? In this twin-test review, CAR magazine’s James Dennison compares both cars in an on-road head-to-head.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:42 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    8:58 - BMW M3
    14:18 - Verdict
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  • @CARmagazineTV
    @CARmagazineTV  24 дня назад +31

    Which gets your vote?
    Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or BMW M3?

    • @emirkaracaoglu
      @emirkaracaoglu 24 дня назад +93

      Alfa 🍀

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 24 дня назад +7

      How are u guys a car channel and ur going to use bmws on paper numbers 😂 their 0-60 and HP are severely understated

    • @chileshemubanga3594
      @chileshemubanga3594 24 дня назад +5

      Honestly these 2 are my fav(BMW 3 first & Alfa Romeo Giulia qv second) so i'l take em both😂😅

    • @alexluke84
      @alexluke84 24 дня назад +3

      Well BMW gives you more options, for any taste you can find something, there is M3 and M3 Competition and M3 CS...there is AWD or RWD, manual or auto, Touring or Coupe or Cabrio versions...you can have even M performance so 340i which is very very good car...not to mention ALPINA versions...also BMW is good at strong diesels, 340d and 330d...all aboce is absent at Alfa, finally 325d/330i and 320d the Apfa has an answer...with Veloce models...that is why they do not sell amazingly, not enough offer...and then they are missing what BMW has with interior options in so many different upholster and colors and seat options...not to even mention Individual program.
      But yeah Alfa looks amazing outside, less inside...I like Alfa...but this time BMW is better (like always in the past when Alfas was underpowered amd fwd mostly)
      I am so sad that Giulia is finished with production this summer...and successor will be EV 👎

    • @radglitch7233
      @radglitch7233 24 дня назад +15

      M3 without a doubt. My American heart yearns for the forbidden M3 Touring

  • @InvisbalyNoticeable
    @InvisbalyNoticeable 20 дней назад +173

    I hate giant screens in cars, the Alfa interior is so perfect for me, just a nice little screen that flows wonderfully into the dash, not some giant tablet monstrosity slapped on like an afterthought

    • @powerhp
      @powerhp 12 дней назад +4

      I agree 100%. And you don't know how much it cost Alfa to implement such a customized screen compared to a common tablet slammed on the dashboard. I remember an interview with one of the leaders of the development team talking about this.

  • @urosvukov4948
    @urosvukov4948 23 дня назад +248

    The Alfa is 7 years older! No one seems to let that sink in. It’s monumental given its age, still.

    • @bc8580
      @bc8580 23 дня назад +9

      Agreed.

    • @Greatadventure124
      @Greatadventure124 22 дня назад +10

      Agreed..Alfa Q🍀 is outdated. Remember when M3 alone on the top for years and along came Alfa and given M3 a run for the money which no one believed possible. They done a great job.

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 21 день назад +8

      7? It debuted in 2015. The G80 released at the end of 2020.

    • @Top_g80comp
      @Top_g80comp 20 дней назад +3

      @@Greatadventure124 and yet bmw m3/4 sold more cars the Giulia and Stelvio QV combined together ☝️ I wonder why 😄😄😄

    • @TheOverpowered1
      @TheOverpowered1 20 дней назад

      @@Top_g80comp lol

  • @JamieCarter-ln1bk
    @JamieCarter-ln1bk 24 дня назад +196

    I've had the Giulia for 5 years. Competition red. Looks, sounds and drives great. Stands out from the crowd.

    • @jez987s
      @jez987s 23 дня назад +16

      On my second Guilia - Veloce to QV. Will never sell the QV. It’s a keeper.

    • @Scheltokeeper
      @Scheltokeeper 23 дня назад +13

      @@jez987s Even the 280 hp Veloce's are a pleasure to drive! I'm a owner of a 2022 Veloce Q4 and i really love the car.

  • @tumolucky17
    @tumolucky17 23 дня назад +116

    I own a 2017 gulia quad, and I never want to sell it. The sound and the way it drives is just phenomenal

    • @JoshuaRex-ql4nc
      @JoshuaRex-ql4nc 23 дня назад +4

      Me too

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 21 день назад

      Me to Stelvio QF other than maybe for Giulia.

    • @JaredDutton-xw4gt
      @JaredDutton-xw4gt 20 дней назад +1

      How’s the motor? Heard for a while that motors not very great. Obviously there’s haters and all that but you own one. How is it?

    • @tumolucky17
      @tumolucky17 19 дней назад +1

      Yeah it’s great, I had a few faults with the fuel pump and fuel line, but all work was carried out with the warranty . So so far so good

    • @Mustafa-tl9ey
      @Mustafa-tl9ey 9 дней назад +1

      Is the QV reliable ? I heard that the QV is a little problematic, how is your experience so far ?

  • @bpowick
    @bpowick 23 дня назад +57

    I honestly think the Giulia is one of the best looking modern four door sedans ever made.

    • @Ronnet
      @Ronnet 19 дней назад +2

      Definitely. After all these years it still puts a smile on my face when I walk to it. And I always have to look back at it after stepping out. There really is nothing out there that compares to it. Which is why it's the car I've owned the longest. The craziest part is that it's also the most reliable car I've ever owned!

  • @codean909
    @codean909 24 дня назад +108

    I love the fact that both of these cars exist and you can pick whichever car speaks to you more.

    • @mathew3293
      @mathew3293 24 дня назад +3

      best comment

    • @larams61
      @larams61 20 дней назад +1

      Both cars are epic but I prefer Alfa.

    • @FefyGT
      @FefyGT 17 дней назад +6

      I just hate the fact that I can't afford any of them.

  • @mathewleadbitter3975
    @mathewleadbitter3975 20 дней назад +40

    Owned my Alfa quad a year now and absolutely love it. I looked at buying an m3/m4 but the Alfa had me on looks alone let alone how it drives. The bmw was way too common also and the amount of lovely comments I get from strangers on my Alfa just makes the car even nicer.

  • @MattBHerz7
    @MattBHerz7 23 дня назад +107

    Im a QV owner and admit that the M3 is probably a better car. That said, I still prefer the Italian. I like that it's simpler. All the settings on the bmw and the giant screen would overwhelm me. The Alfa has more soul. Also, an Xdrive M3 will end up costing much more than the QV. Don't get me wrong, love the M3.

    • @jad4ca
      @jad4ca 22 дня назад +10

      I own an xDrive M3 and it is awesome. But I likewise love and respect the QV and really want to drive one.

    • @ALE_POS
      @ALE_POS 20 дней назад +3

      You said correct: soul.

    • @bpp325
      @bpp325 14 дней назад +1

      what does 'better car' mean?

  • @twinv6_quadrifoglio
    @twinv6_quadrifoglio 22 дня назад +28

    QV owner here. Hands down, one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Sure the interior is a bit dated. However, less is more. The driving experience of the QV, is on a whole different level.

    • @hhh7929
      @hhh7929 21 день назад +2

      Vieillot ou classique intemporel ?

    • @faisalfaruque2849
      @faisalfaruque2849 5 дней назад

      Deffo - just make sure you have the radar blocker as they are easily stolen with that flaw!

  • @fatgoose8983
    @fatgoose8983 21 день назад +28

    I've owned the QV for 4 years and I daily drive it. Rosso Competizione with Sparco carbon seats.
    Beautiful, unique, sexy.. The feel, the sound.
    I'll be ok..

  • @tommike8830
    @tommike8830 20 дней назад +57

    Giulia QV all day everyday . No need to have fake sounds from speakers 😂

  • @ramonmedina1974
    @ramonmedina1974 22 дня назад +66

    If the much older Alfa makes BMW sweat so much, the Alfa must be a damn good car!

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 18 дней назад +8

      Alfas have been making the GERMANS sweat for over 100 years... that is WHY VW GROUP has tried to buy them 3+ times!

    • @Lukas-eh4cf
      @Lukas-eh4cf 12 дней назад +2

      @@giulimarconi1715 Sweating when their Alfa has broken down again. (I still love them)

    • @johnkisch240
      @johnkisch240 12 дней назад +2

      ​@@Lukas-eh4cfWell i drove 156 2.0 ts and it had no issues. In two years 120 000 km. I totaled it in the end. 😢. My Best and most beautiful car. Now i drvenih Audi A3 2.0 benzin. Its good but no Alfa Romeo.

    • @schnuffelpuff3923
      @schnuffelpuff3923 9 дней назад +1

      @@johnkisch240 I have a 2002 156 with the 1.8TS and the full Momo leather facelift interior. It now has about 230.000km, gets pushed hard and never let me down. I absolutely love this car!

    • @davidgibson3481
      @davidgibson3481 20 часов назад

      ​@@Lukas-eh4cfM3 is not reliable. It's in the top 10 most unreliable cars. Check out the warranty videos

  • @SplawnQROD
    @SplawnQROD 20 дней назад +21

    I came out of an f90 m5 to my QV and the QV was hands down the better car to drive. The m5 had a better interior and more tech and more space but if I were to buy one tomorrow it would be the alfa all day and I also had an f82 m4 comp immediately before the m5 which felt heavy and inert next to the QV

  • @AP-cc1uw
    @AP-cc1uw 23 дня назад +67

    People forget what sport sedans were originally about. They weren’t track weapons, they were liveable cars with a ton of performance. You’re not supposed to notice the difference because if you’re going fast enough that you need an M3s capabilities you’re losing your license. The reviewer says the M3 is more rewarding at 10/10ths. But this is a road review, I seriously doubt he got the car anywhere close to its limits.
    Taking delivery of a 2024 QV in a few weeks. Test drove the M3. I believe it when people say it would be faster than the Giulia on a track, although obviously I didn’t get to explore it at 10/10ths.
    But the big question is, how often are you able to track these cars? Every weekend? Maybe go M3. A few times a year or less? The Giulia is my pick. It’s a much more well rounded car, the ride isn’t punishing when in A or N mode. Even D is liveable. You’ve always got Race mode if you want a ton of fun. But you can’t really use it responsibly on public roads on a regular basis. And while the M3 is a better track car you also can’t use its capabilities on a regular basis.
    Tom Baker at Chasing Cars has a good comparison between the M3 and the Giulia and I think he gets it right. His take is also consistent with his view on the M550i as the actual modern successor to the M5. A liveable yet very fast and sporty sedan. You WANT a bit of roll in corners, this helps you feel the sensation of speed. If you’re flat you need to go ever faster to feel anything. That’s not what sport sedans should be about.

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 23 дня назад +10

      This. And it's 99% as good on track, without punishing your kidneys. MUCH better, advanced suspension design. BMW just makes their cars handle better by putting stiffer springs in.

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng 23 дня назад +4

      Correct take. Track performance is irrelevant 100% actually. Because you can have fun at the track with pretty much anything. And a serious track day nut should buy something else rather than an M3 or Giulia

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 21 день назад

      Ho avuto una qv 2022. Ho visto che kw produce un assetto che mantiene tutte le regolazioni DNA. Se una persona ha esigenza di dare un assetto più sportivo ma vivibile alla qv, kW produce l opzione.

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 21 день назад +1

      ​@@thomasferrarojr.9772la BMW ha un assetto più rigido ed improntato alla prestazione MA utilizza anche gomme con maggiore impronta a terra ...di diametro esterno più grande e sull anteriore anche più larghe.
      La BMW ha migliore controllo di trazione, ma per godere di queste auto serve metterli off e imparare a guidare ....non andare forte grazie ai controlli elettronici .

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 21 день назад +1

      Bmw.....provate a mettere gomme più piccole e strette come la qv,...poi vediamo cosa succede .....e viceversa gomme maggiorate sull alfa, specie davanti.

  • @Rok3y
    @Rok3y 19 дней назад +40

    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is, at least to me, the most beautiful car I have ever seen

    • @2112Tix
      @2112Tix 17 дней назад

      Beauty and the beast. You choose.

    • @sbchamps1
      @sbchamps1 12 дней назад

      Agrred

    • @schnuffelpuff3923
      @schnuffelpuff3923 9 дней назад

      @@2112Tix The Giulia is both. 😉

  • @caymanblack9567
    @caymanblack9567 23 дня назад +11

    I couldnt care how good the M3 is the Giulia is the best looking saloon by far and the QV is the king.

  • @rmr5184
    @rmr5184 23 дня назад +15

    I absolutely love the M3 touring and as a M340i touring driver the logic choice would be the M3 but that Giulia, ohhh boy! I might prefer the Giulia. I had the chance to drive one for a few hundred chilometers and what a car it is! Just glorious!

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 20 дней назад

      Ya anyone who says the Giulia is garbage or just an FCA parts bin car has never driven one. Easily one of if not the best sports sedan steering/chassis ever made. Makes most BMW’s feel numb and lethargic by comparison.

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder818 20 дней назад +13

    Just looking at it, the Giulia puts me in a good mood, it smells like a real car made for the pleasure of those who drive it, with a functional determination, not the result of fashion.

  • @zajebancija11
    @zajebancija11 20 дней назад +13

    What I criticise on this BMW and also Mercedes and others, they’re so expensive and put basically only two tablets as screens in front of the driver with zero design. Alfa has nicely integrated the screen into the dashboard to maintain the old school sportive feeling. At least also Porsche does that. Also the front looks ugly with these huge “kidneys”. But of course the BMW is overall also a dream car. Of course Alfa’s infotainment system is outdated as it’s old. To me Alfa will always have a soul and will not just be car or a thing. 🍀

  • @sveeny
    @sveeny 24 дня назад +81

    The M3’s ability to switch between AWD and RWD makes for a killer daily + fun car. Speaking as someone who lives in the alps and has snowy mountains during winter.

    • @xwarped83
      @xwarped83 24 дня назад +3

      Sounds like the perfect car for you.

    • @Bruno-xb2mt
      @Bruno-xb2mt 23 дня назад +5

      Just get winter tires lol

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 23 дня назад +8

      ​@@Bruno-xb2mt It's not that simple. I did daily an M2 for 2 years and it's a pretty good winter car with the right tires. But there's a big difference between a voluntary sunday snow blast and having to commute at 6 AM together with many others going up and down slopes hoping you don't have to take off from a full stop on an incline (ever tried that in an M2 on snow?). It's not impossible, but it's quite stressful. I appreciate my GR Yaris permanent all wheel drive that I have now that I live in a mountainous region.

    • @MrsCap2
      @MrsCap2 22 дня назад

      I m in same situation in Alps but I do feel like going for Giulia anyway. Rear will drive will do it as well in Alps mainly because the road are mainly clean and I gave second car or adding stud tyre on it ? 😇

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 22 дня назад

      @@MrsCap2 I have a RWD second car already so an AWD daily is perfect 😃

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS1983 17 дней назад +4

    Being a hardcore Mechanical lover, I would go for Alfa Romeo. It feels so intuitive and connected for a spirited drive.

  • @marcelhandsome6042
    @marcelhandsome6042 22 дня назад +16

    Considering how much older the Alfa is in comparison yet still managing to compete with the BMW in 2024 is a testament to the brilliance of Alfa engineers (skunkworks) under Fiat Chairman Sergio Marchionne all those years ago. However, the new M3 is fresher and it shows Alfa under the Stellantis group has the capability and resources to come up with an epic best-in-class successor and if so Chairman Tavares can use Ferrari engineers if he so chooses!

    • @pierangelofae7621
      @pierangelofae7621 19 дней назад +1

      Ferrari non fa parte di Stellantis

    • @monchoglu
      @monchoglu 7 дней назад

      They've already said there wont be another combustion Giulia, it will be electric unfortunately

  • @ChrisSmith-fu7fo
    @ChrisSmith-fu7fo 24 дня назад +48

    You can pick up the Giulia for £70k brand new right now, versus that spec Beemer will be nearer £90k with carbon seats & brakes. Not really a straight head-to-head.

  • @jongib6096
    @jongib6096 20 дней назад +30

    passion, style, sound = Alfa all dayyy

  • @fantaildoveman9757
    @fantaildoveman9757 10 дней назад +2

    Love my Giulia QF. I'm sure technically the BMW is better, but for me there is no comparison. Aspired to get one for years & now I'm fortunate enough I could treat myself. If you have the opportunity don't hesitate.
    If I've had a bad day, I give it a bit of a blast on the way home & the world becomes good again.

  • @diegopetitto7463
    @diegopetitto7463 20 дней назад +6

    Giulia for sure ❤

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush3492 22 дня назад +7

    I’d take the Alfa dash any day. Love the way the screen is integrated into the dash. Hate the tablet stuck on dash look in the BMW.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 23 дня назад +8

    My choice is Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio on the looks alone and the V6 is just awesome add AKRAPOVIČ to it and it's just a symphony. Another great video James :)

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад

      Go buy it.
      It is already discontinued

  • @TommyVercetti2002
    @TommyVercetti2002 23 дня назад +11

    I appeal to all people with money and ask them to buy an Alfa Romeo so that in a few years I can also afford a second-hand one. Thank you :)))

  • @jordanjoestar8839
    @jordanjoestar8839 9 дней назад +4

    The Guilias 5 year old interior design has aged better than the m3s 0 year old interior.

  • @andymartinez767
    @andymartinez767 23 дня назад +19

    I am proud to say, i bought the Guilia about a month ago and LOVE it. The drive is excellent, much better than my X5, or Q5, or my Mercedes.

    • @mathew3293
      @mathew3293 22 дня назад

      amazing, got mine this week! can't wait

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад +3

      ROFL.
      Alfa has sold only 12 Guilia QF last quarter.
      I don't know where is the massive buying force on RUclips from buying their beloved Alfa.

    • @senseikawasaki2326
      @senseikawasaki2326 21 день назад +3

      @@hassanger8128why you hating so much? Lol

    • @ALE_POS
      @ALE_POS 20 дней назад +1

      @@hassanger8128True, but notorially people don’t understand cars

    • @p40o
      @p40o 19 дней назад +2

      ​​@@hassanger8128Who cares about sales? Don't like the car? It's simple, don't buy it. No one here is forcing you to buy.

  • @aliagidon2242
    @aliagidon2242 21 день назад +8

    Alfa Romeo love ❤️

  • @nathandepasquale9571
    @nathandepasquale9571 24 дня назад +13

    Heart - Alfa. Head - beemer. Both absolutely incredible. Great video.

  • @4g5y
    @4g5y 23 дня назад +6

    That Alfa will make you fill with joy when you turnback and look at it after parking.

  • @paulmichael3844
    @paulmichael3844 24 дня назад +13

    Brilliant review I would take the Alfa if given the chance

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS1983 17 дней назад +2

    I would still go for Alfa Romeo. It feels like a proper sports saloon to me. But people who love tech might like the M3 more than t

  • @MB-zt9eo
    @MB-zt9eo 24 дня назад +15

    Alfa 🍀 just bought it😎 Rosso Etna full Carbob😜 Top Sedan For me👍

    • @joper90
      @joper90 24 дня назад +1

      Fair play, I have a Stevlio quad, be ready for 19-20mpg :) They just evaporate petrol..

    • @MB-zt9eo
      @MB-zt9eo 24 дня назад +2

      @@joper90no problem i will keep for my sons! 4C to one Giulia QV for the other! Giulia QV grow up the value very soon like it Was for my 4C👍.

    • @ISLAMICSTORIES13
      @ISLAMICSTORIES13 7 дней назад

      @@joper90 20 mpg is not bad at all at 500hp. pretty much unheard of 10 years ago

  • @annavellotti255
    @annavellotti255 21 день назад +4

    Giulia Quadrifoglio ❤

  • @lightenergyfractoid5675
    @lightenergyfractoid5675 17 дней назад +2

    Is it wrong that I want to buy all the QV's in existence and lock them in a garage for posterity ? I think as cars go electric it will be well remembered as possibly the greatest 4 door sport sedan of all time.

  • @rotteneggconcept
    @rotteneggconcept 24 дня назад +20

    I think maybe reviews get super Salons wrong , the question they need to answer is can you put your entire family in the car and drive cross country and when everyone is asleep enjoy your drive. i don't want a stiff ride at 5 tenth cause that's normally where id be driving with the family, a super salon should have rounded edges it should not be track-capable or "Nurburgring" tested, I think ultimately that's why most people end up buying M5 or RS6 ,RS7 or the Giulia, basically I want a fast car that can comfortably carry the family, not race my thoughts any

    • @wasdwasdwwasd
      @wasdwasdwwasd 23 дня назад +3

      That's perhaps a warm saloon like an S Audi but anything flagship (Ms, 63s, RSes) should be able to be driven at 10/10 without feeling like you're going to slide off the road.

    • @AP-cc1uw
      @AP-cc1uw 23 дня назад +1

      @@wasdwasdwwasd that’s not how it used to be. The M cars used to be great daily drivers, and yet still you could get the 335i or 535i beneath them. These M cars are too stiff. If the M3 had a suspension setting that was 20-30% softer than the current softest setting that would do it. But I wonder if it’s even possible given the weight.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 23 дня назад +4

      Why, if it's a super saloon it should also be track performance capable, that's what the "super" is for. If you don't need that performance then just go down a model and get an M340i or an M550i, they're way better looking, more comfortable, plenty fast enough in their own right and you save a fair chunk of money for the trouble..
      Why do you want the sportiest version available from launch and then complain when you have to make more compromises?

    • @minio4444
      @minio4444 23 дня назад +1

      By the “old” standards most of the mid range saloons are “super saloons”. You get 250bhp 2.0l petrol or diesel engines in basic specced models. 3.0l models are plenty quick enough for hauling your family and being quick enough to lose your license. The super saloon term evolved. You do not need them, you want or desire them. You can buy a house in parts of the UK for the m3 money. You don’t compare them to the m3s/m5s of old.

  • @Athelass
    @Athelass 22 дня назад +7

    Giulia QV please ❤🎉

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 24 дня назад +154

    I love the M3 but the Giulia is better i take the Giulia for sure!

    • @beastofackworth
      @beastofackworth 24 дня назад +5

      Better or better looking?

    • @flacjacket
      @flacjacket 24 дня назад +7

      ​@@beastofackworthboth

    • @scherpebocht
      @scherpebocht 23 дня назад +9

      Not even close

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 23 дня назад +12

      ​@scherpebocht I can't believe how people could be so wrong. The Alfa is UNDENIABLY better looking. And it is a better driving car. Better steering, more advanced and compliant suspension. There's no doubt. Go drive one and then come back and tell us. You clearly have never driven a Giulia, we know this. 🙄

    • @scherpebocht
      @scherpebocht 23 дня назад +4

      @@thomasferrarojr.9772 maybe the GTA but the design is way out dated its almost 10 years old there is no way its better looking, and yes ive driven a Giulia but a rental diesel i didnt like the interior layout and the flippers not being attached to the steering wheel

  • @ksoman953
    @ksoman953 24 дня назад +39

    They still make the QV? What a handsdown gorgeous and timeless car. It wins just for timeless looks. Who buys cars anyways anymore with current prices... lease the BMW buy the Guilia and and park it and just stare at it.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад +4

      Yes, that's why no one is buying Alfa.
      People are buying them on the comments here only.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 21 день назад

      Looks better in the metal.

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 20 дней назад +1

      @@hassanger8128yes because sales numbers means something is better 😂. The general public has no taste. It looks far better and is much more fun, engaging, and characterful.

    • @tonunknown1
      @tonunknown1 20 дней назад

      @@hassanger8128actually, in 2024, Alfa is the 2nd fastest selling car company in the United States, Mazda being number one.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 18 дней назад

      @jjchockey Yes, sales figures means your product is good and people like and buy it.
      When sales figures are so low, it means that people don't like the product and it is a failed one.
      That's why Guilia GV is discontinued.

  • @motorfab7014
    @motorfab7014 23 дня назад +161

    Giulia is better

    • @martinallenuk
      @martinallenuk 15 дней назад +8

      at looking like a sales reps car.

    • @H-jb4tf
      @H-jb4tf 14 дней назад +4

      Na mate. They are crap. My Golf R blows it away. 😅

    • @bartoszbaginski941
      @bartoszbaginski941 14 дней назад +20

      @@H-jb4tfxDDD Golf R is nowhere close to this class of a car

    • @sodomagorsvk6668
      @sodomagorsvk6668 13 дней назад +1

      In what. In cost of oil change? Man just oil change cost 350€ in Giulia😅

    • @javis350fsport2
      @javis350fsport2 13 дней назад

      Not even the rims🤣🤡

  • @rooit923
    @rooit923 23 дня назад +3

    Had my Giulia for over 3 years now, and i still love it.
    I agree it's a 7 or 8 tenths of a car but if you don't do track day, that's fine.
    I've had 40 mpg on a long motorway run in it's most efficient mode and very comfortable too.
    Rare and great looking with lots of positive comments.
    I would consider the M3 touring next though..
    Let's not forget the Alfa is now 8 years old and they are still in tests with much newer cars.

  • @carza355
    @carza355 24 дня назад +9

    Another brilliant video! Alfa for me everyday.

  • @qwerty69600
    @qwerty69600 19 дней назад +3

    Good review, but to clarify, it's a comfortably £90k car vs essentially a £70k car. The BMW is nice, but I'd take the M4 over the M3. However I couldn't walk away from an Alfa super saloon against either of the M cars.

  • @michelnillesen6659
    @michelnillesen6659 23 дня назад +4

    no doubt: Alfa.

  • @carpro3690
    @carpro3690 23 дня назад +8

    I will never get used to the front end on the current gen Bmws I don’t care how brilliant.

  • @johncreedon7847
    @johncreedon7847 23 дня назад +12

    A few guys online have had qvs , went to the g80 and are now back in qvs. Speaks volumes.

  • @jorgeg162
    @jorgeg162 5 дней назад +3

    That beautiful Alfa for me....gorgeous!

  • @foodsillustrated
    @foodsillustrated 14 дней назад +1

    I’ve been fortunate enough to have an f80 M3 and a Giulia QV - maybe I didn’t do enough with the M3, but took the Giulia to the alps, definitely preferred the Alfa

  • @pedrosousa8512
    @pedrosousa8512 15 дней назад +1

    I have to confess, before I prefer the Giulia all day... but this M3 touring OMG I can´t resist!!! It´s such a beautiful touring!

  • @serpenthx
    @serpenthx 24 дня назад +36

    Just a small correction: previous differential in QV wasn't electronically controlled LSD, it was a TV (torque vectoring) diff, whch by its nature has to be electronically controlled. Not only it was unpredictable (spinning inner wheel from time to time), it would also overheat on track, and it behaved like an open diff until 50 km/h (30 mp/h). Its great on paper, but software for it was a problem not performing as it should.

    • @coldvaper
      @coldvaper 20 дней назад

      Wonder if you can put the newer diff in?

    • @serpenthx
      @serpenthx 20 дней назад +1

      @@coldvaper Mechanically yes, but some program coding is needed. Still waiting for first report of a successful upgrade.

  • @51madmitch
    @51madmitch 16 дней назад +1

    Alfa looks beautiful inside and out, buttons and knobs brilliant, most of us want a quick but every day car, to much adjustment not necessary, a good car set up doesn’t need constant changes with buttons etc.

  • @brianb7844
    @brianb7844 14 дней назад +1

    Own a 2023 QV in Vulcano Black Metallic. Phenomenal vehicle and plan on keeping her.

  • @PhDScar
    @PhDScar 10 дней назад +2

    By listening to this you may think that BMW is faster and better at handling, but Alfa is the fastest car in Nurburgring. The only 4 door car which was faster is Jaguar XE Project 8 (super limited).

  • @myou6675
    @myou6675 22 дня назад +3

    QV owner so I am possibly biased but also not an entirely fair comparison using a fully loaded (carbon brakes and seats) xdrive estate vs a standard QV saloon. The equivalent M3 may still win on paper anyhow but it would fail the “car park look back” test every time.

  • @Dark42nty
    @Dark42nty 20 дней назад +3

    But only one from these is car🇮🇹🙏

  • @iRBladeAvEngEr
    @iRBladeAvEngEr 19 дней назад +3

    You don't even try to compare Giulia QV and BMW M3 feeling. Speaking about Steering, chassis and gearbox speed (even if it's the same ZF, in Giulia seems faster and much more enjoyable), you can directly understand that Giulia is more rude and engaging.

  • @mitchhifi9192
    @mitchhifi9192 22 дня назад +3

    The Alpha looks much much nicer, especially in that emerald green colour it's brilliant on road.

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 18 дней назад

      At least spell the name correctly ffs ... it's an ALFA not an alpha you MELON.

  • @frankyork5808
    @frankyork5808 19 дней назад +2

    Why does the M3 need so many adjustable drive modes? Top much tech , just because. Once one sets a car up, one rarely changes it. I prefer more analogue. I will take the Alfa Romeo please (as all true car lovers would).

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable 18 дней назад +1

    Love that Alfa. People should buy more Alfa Romeros.

  • @BmwAlfa123
    @BmwAlfa123 24 дня назад +33

    I've owned an M5C, M2C as well as a Giulia and Stelvio QVs. I miss the Alfas way more than the M cars (currently have an M850i "fake M") If I was to pick between these choices, I'd pick the Giulia. there was just something special about ownining a Quadrifolgio whereas the M always felt like a slightly faster 5 series.
    If I was to rank them, it would be Giulia/Stelvio tied for #1, followed by M2C and then M5C.

    • @pasma1983
      @pasma1983 23 дня назад +3

      You just had a toyota starlet man, give up!

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 23 дня назад

      I’m guessing your M2 was an F87?

    • @BmwAlfa123
      @BmwAlfa123 22 дня назад

      @@joetacchino4470 yes, with a Stage 1 tune.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад +2

      No BMW owner would say a fake M car on the M850, which is faster and quicker than many super cars.
      I'm really tired of these fake comments who buy Alfa on RUclips, whereas no one is buying Alfa in reality.
      That's why Alfa has discontinued most of its cars, and it is currently a broke and sad company.

    • @BmwAlfa123
      @BmwAlfa123 22 дня назад +1

      @@hassanger8128 Thats why i put it in quotation marks because that's what others refer to it.
      My M850i actually has an E85 tune and makes more power than an M8.

  • @stevep9041
    @stevep9041 23 дня назад +17

    I prefer less fiddling with dials and more driving pleasure, the Alfa is simple and answers the brief.

    • @geoffbullock8280
      @geoffbullock8280 22 дня назад +2

      It's 1 button press to turn to full attack in the M3.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад

      Why haven't you bought it then?

    • @geoffbullock8280
      @geoffbullock8280 22 дня назад +2

      @hassanger8128 if that is directed to me I have a 2024 M3 Comp Xdrive.

  • @goranmatin3709
    @goranmatin3709 23 дня назад +5

    Giulia❤

  • @chasinglimits
    @chasinglimits 22 дня назад +1

    The M3 is very good, no doubt. But the QV does all that, but also feels more special and looks gorgeous! Perhaps I’m a bit biased but I think most would agree.

  • @matejanikolic5316
    @matejanikolic5316 10 дней назад +2

    Steering ratio: Giulia - 11.8, M3 - 14.6... Not sure how that translates to same feel on the steering wheel, honestly. Maybe progressive steering is done differently, but the rack should not feel the same at all. German cars as a rule don't have an aggressive steering ratio

  • @kevbone4809
    @kevbone4809 12 дней назад

    Great review, thank you.
    I know all the reviewers talk about chassis when they mean suspension and you made the same mistake when talking about the M3 but they are two completely different things.
    Keep up the good work, great video.

  • @FruitoftheLoops
    @FruitoftheLoops 24 дня назад +40

    Fake noise pumped in through the bimmer speakers...annoying

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 24 дня назад +4

      Not in the USA.

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 23 дня назад

      @@user-my4xu4gf1zlol, absolutely it does. I coded mine FULLY off using Bimmercode. Oh so much better.

    • @bri1042
      @bri1042 23 дня назад +1

      Yes, in the USA. I have a '21 M3 Manual. It is easily turned off with Bimmercode.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 21 день назад

      I heard same and thought urghh.

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 12 дней назад

      Yes exactly- surprised the reviewer didn't call that out, instead of being suckered in by the fake raspberry noises. I mean, I can sit in my bath and make pretty convincing motorboat sounds but ultimately I'm just a sagging, balding old guy sitting in the tub going 'vroom vroom.'

  • @supremeetnel7707
    @supremeetnel7707 24 дня назад +10

    seeing alot of comments of people who havent driven the cars saying which one theyd have because of looks.

    • @karmadel786
      @karmadel786 24 дня назад

      Your point?

    • @supremeetnel7707
      @supremeetnel7707 24 дня назад +6

      @@karmadel786 Cars are more than just looks.

    • @augustortiz
      @augustortiz 23 дня назад +1

      If they don’t bring looks they bring “Nurburgring times” as if thats the only measure too.

    • @MathsYknow
      @MathsYknow 23 дня назад

      Have a guess which of the two cars @supremeetnel7707 would go for. It takes a big advantage in dynamics at ten tenths to make up for having butt cheeks for a grille. ;)

    • @ChicagoItalian
      @ChicagoItalian 23 дня назад +1

      Valid point, I was one of those people. Kind of like those individuals who hate on a Maserati (Maserati GranSport built by Ferrari) and have no clue. But yes, you are right.

  • @ancient_oak
    @ancient_oak 22 дня назад +2

    Both are phenomenal cars. I still can't stand that fugly 4 series grille though, I thought that with time I’d get used to it but...

  • @jez987s
    @jez987s 23 дня назад +5

    Gulia for me.

  • @markg1531
    @markg1531 14 дней назад +1

    I’d get the Alfa without considering the M3 for a moment.

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 23 дня назад

    Thanks, both awesome cars!

  • @davieman3443
    @davieman3443 17 дней назад +2

    I don't care how good the beemer is. I'll take the Guilia anyday.

  • @FREE_CH1CKEN
    @FREE_CH1CKEN 17 дней назад

    These are both absolutely amazing

  • @1995konst
    @1995konst 24 дня назад +10

    Giulia of course!

  • @TheHutchRuns
    @TheHutchRuns 18 дней назад +1

    These cars will appeal to different sorts of people, Alfa to those who buy with their hearts and BMW for those that buy with their heads. Me? I'd have the Alfa every day!

  • @diogopsilva
    @diogopsilva 11 дней назад +1

    The Alfa is a beauty, the new M3 is a monstrosity! I'd take the Alfa all day everyday

  • @markomicovic5308
    @markomicovic5308 18 дней назад +1

    For the difference in price, you can drive, maintain and refuel an Alfa for five to ten years + you have a rarer car.

  • @kpsig
    @kpsig 7 дней назад

    Most people who drove both went for the M3, just because they could not justify paying that much for the Alfa, while they could get the M3, which also scores higher on interior quality. Despite the Alfa being much more vibrant.

  • @monchoglu
    @monchoglu 7 дней назад +1

    The difference in time of built shows, the giulia would need a heavy cabin restyling to compete, objectively the M3 is the better product.
    That said, give me the Alfa :)

  • @Fmb22
    @Fmb22 8 дней назад +1

    Giulia is just stunning.

  • @Abdel725
    @Abdel725 23 дня назад +3

    Guilia ❤

  • @casey2732
    @casey2732 21 день назад +2

    I own M4 comp and one thing is certain... After I drove Giulia QV my car feels like an elephant. You can really feel it's weight and heavy steering. I don't know what changes were made to 2024 model that feeling was different

  • @6th.replicant577
    @6th.replicant577 24 дня назад +33

    Alfa, all day and everyday, because it’s just plain cool and not styled for and bought by chavs, spivs, oiks and wankers.

    • @robertvandeveer1846
      @robertvandeveer1846 23 дня назад

      Please don't insult us non-BMW owning wankers please.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 22 дня назад +2

      That's why Alfa sales numbers are skyrocketing 😅🤣😂

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 18 дней назад +1

      Just by posting such a pathetic, childish, trolling comment like that, tells everyone who sees it, exactly who the chavvy, spivvy, oik wanker is.
      A car is just a car, and by labelling every person who drives a certain car as the same, you are being an absolute melon.
      I own a BMW M2, but I love the Alfa too. Because I'm a real petrolhead, and also an adult.

  • @RFG001
    @RFG001 18 дней назад +2

    Alfa on car design / looks alone !

  • @robby8384
    @robby8384 5 дней назад +1

    The Alfa is a real car that can be appreciated by real drivers wanting to have fun and enjoy themselves. The BMW is just a high tech computer on wheels. It is too stiff and needs 4 Wheel drive just to live with the Alfas handling characteristics. It may have good steering now but I am sure they have copied Alfa and it’s taken 7 years to catch up. Just imagine the price of the BMW with the Xdrive and the nice seats and all the available extras. I would take the Alfa any day as it is better looking, better in every way apart from the tech which does not bother me. I buy a car to drive not use as a mobile computer. It’s also less expensive and you get more value for money. I also like a car that you can look back at on your drive and enjoy the experience. If I did that with the front of the BMW I would feel sick. I also like to stand out from the crowd and not follow everyone like a sheep.

  • @davidcucek6
    @davidcucek6 11 дней назад +1

    If new bmw wants to compete with 7 year old Alfa , thats the prof that giulia is Justin another level..maybe bmw is faster and more aggresive , but Giulia has stye and pure class.. driving plesure…

  • @bigphilswheels
    @bigphilswheels 23 дня назад +4

    For me it's simple. They're very close mechanically, in the way they feel and drive. However, the looks? Hannibal Lecter or Sophia Loren? Make mine an Alfa. Plus they'll let you out at junctions! 😂😂

  • @richardconway6425
    @richardconway6425 23 дня назад +2

    The Giulia with a manual gearbox is a very nice idea.

    • @sunnysaenngarm5375
      @sunnysaenngarm5375 22 дня назад +1

      they only made them for the 2017 QV’s in Europe. Pretty rare find from what i’ve read.

  • @neilmitchell9421
    @neilmitchell9421 9 дней назад +1

    Fantastic video! The Alfa has future classic written all over it. Like you said, a wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Mine is a daily driver but a weekend warrior. Heart vs head? Maybe, but I vote for the Guilia Quadrifoglio!

  • @jameswheeler6954
    @jameswheeler6954 7 дней назад

    Can we not fight who is best - it’s literally both brands a win here because : one makes a great car .. the other challenges that model and improves on it , and the process repeats itself giving us beautiful cars with different characteristics .. because us humans will never be satisfied with what someone else’s got . Haha . Great rivalry and the 2 best brands for the top position done ✅. Thanks BMW and Alfa Romeo ❤

  • @richardphelps9301
    @richardphelps9301 12 дней назад +1

    I have the Alfa (not the quad😢..one day🤞) and it has so much sole, never owned a car which attracts so much attention. everyone tried to convince me to buy German. I’m so glad I didn’t….

  • @tomwebb7091
    @tomwebb7091 11 дней назад +1

    The better car is the one that emotionally involves me in the ownership experience and fills me with pride of ownership and near lust for said car... which is ALL that matters. Thus the BMW - as good as it may be - doesnt stand a shred of a chance against a Giulia QF.

  • @peterthwaites5891
    @peterthwaites5891 16 дней назад +1

    Both these cars are incredible BUT the Alfa is the only one i`d choose because however good the BMW is i simply would not consider it because of how it looks...

  • @stanislas4990
    @stanislas4990 20 дней назад +8

    Design, character, sound, driving experience, the Giulia Quadrifoglio is on another level.
    The BMW M3 is great and very fast, but without a soul and too serious to be fun to drive.

  • @philmountain9290
    @philmountain9290 23 дня назад +1

    They’re both great, I went for the M3 because I need the estate and ideally like 4wd.
    If they weren’t my criteria I’d definitely look at the Alfa.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 21 день назад

      I think they are the main reasons to buy beemer. In the UK year round 4wd is useful with 500hp.