I own a 2020 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCX and just bought the Pan America Special with all the options. Both bikes will compliment each other depending on the adventure at hand. The harley will definitely do better off road. Harley killed it with the Pan America!!! The bike is AMAZING!! Better than BMW, KTM and certainly Ducati. This is a motorcycle the other companies now have to compare to. I think it just set a new benchmark in the ADV world. Now I own 2 of the best.
Test rode a Pan Am here in California. I looked down in sport mode and was doing 105 mph. It didn’t feel like it was doing that. My 2012 BMW R1200 GSA feels a lot less stable than that. One bad ass bike that Pan Am.
I am not a huge fan of the front fairing headlight assembly, but it isn't enough that I wouldn't buy one. Overall I think Harley built a winner with this bike. Looking forward to seeing this engine in some other bikes.
It's not very often that I hear the only complain on a bike is the windscreen adjustment. As a BMW owner, I really think HD made an amazing bike. Great on them!
Innovative, effective, competitive, what a fight back for Harley. I am not a fan (nor a hater for that matter) of the brand but excited to see them challenging the best ones on that segment.
Fantastic review, you hit the nail on the head…. I’ve had adventure bikes for past 10 years and a Harley for the last 6. Now I’ve just traded my Road King Touring Harley for the Pan America. I can remain in HOG with all the rallies and camaraderie that goes with it but keep my adventure bike. I also own a Multistrada 950S, I may not have that come next summer providing the Pan Am performs as promised. One thing I noticed in bad traffic on a hot day, there is a lot of heat from the rear exhaust header or cylinder, perhaps more than my Ducati, when the engine gets hot, the neutral is difficult to select, it may have just been the bike I demoed but be aware.
The downside of giving up your MS950S is it has about 25+kg more carrying capacity than the PA...which has a measly 201kg payload and precludes 2-up touring (unless you and your SO are the svelt types).
“One man’s Monet is another man’s dog turd.” Love it 🤣 Well it’s certainly not a Monet! I totally get Harley having to be radical given the competition, and it’s a bit slab faced but it’s cool in its way. My one gripe as a prospective buyer is the sound of the motor and the EU strangulation of the exhaust. Excellent, polished review. Thank you.
My Pan America Special overheated and blew the engine at 5,000 miles halfway through a 2,500-mile trip. The bike has now been in the shop for three weeks, and today, I finally got an update on the cause. The Tech tells me the manifold going from the Oil Pump to the engine's top-end came loose. They are still waiting for Harley Corp tech support to get back with further instructions. I love the bike, but it doesn't seem like the dealerships want anything to do with servicing and repair it. I hope Harley takes care of me, but I'm skeptical due to being in the shop for three weeks and not getting any update other than they are waiting on Harley's tech support. I did ask the Tech how much internal damage there was, and they said Harley had not instructed them to make any more tear down; they just wanted pics of the cause. However, the Tech did tell me that they did a compression check on the cylinders, and they are entirely different front to back, and there is coolant in my engine oil. Fingers Crossed!
The dealership informed me yesterday afternoon. Harley is shipping a new motor asap, and they have the engine ready to ship. Snake River Harley Davidson in Twin Falls, ID, also told me that it's their number one priority to get my bike back on the road. It was a slow-going first three weeks in the shop, but things seem to be moving now.
@@oliviermagere I ended up selling the bike back to the dealership. After the engine was replaced, it had electrical major electrical issues that would leave you stranded all the time.
That'll never happen, plus it isn't needed because Harley has the Screamin' Eagle line of products which includes a new titanium/carbon fiber high flow exhaust for the Pan America.
@@Avesta. i belive it wont happen . But everyone in bike business from Ktm,Ducati,Bmw... trusts Akrapovic to have their exhaust as the go to parts in their catalogue. This is the way it is, Akra is just the best product in terms on design and quality and biggest bike brands know that.
@@Avesta. I see you dont own a bike or are you new to motorcycle world. Like brembo akrapovic is to the exhaust. And Harley has Brembo, which comes from Bergamo. Maybe Bergamo is in USA to you that Harley has them. Indian motorcycle has an Akrapovic as the second exhaust. Is Indian from China. Wake up boy.
@@skyworks1621 I own 4 motorcycles and have had over a dozen since I was 11. I can see you come from the immature idiot sport bike world where spending thousands of dollars on a useless exhaust instead of training and skills is considered "cool," but in the REAL WORLD, we've got better shit to spend our money on. Grow up little brand fanboy...Akra might make their own aftermarket parts for the Pan America but Harley will never approach them about it.
Was out on a test ride on a PanAm special and loved it, I use to own a 2018 GS Rallye and and this is by far a better option, than engine and gearbox is a joy to use, the suspension is a great bit of kit, I'm seriously thinking about trading in my ktm 1290 super duke gt for it...
Very bummed all the dealers near me are not getting one yet and don’t know when they will because they need techs trained to service and maintain them.... That just blew my mind....this bike has been supposed to be coming out for awhile now. Hell they don’t even have a Livewire yet hahahah. Might just be my location but damn that grinds the gears
Supply chain issues for almost everything world wide right now. Darn pandemic fallout. Motorcycle tires and clutch cables are in shortage over here in the US when discussing the issues of motorcycles.
It's a good lookin bike the engine looks neater than the boxer BM engine for me the only thing that I wonder about is as it has all the bells and whistles in electronics why not an electric screen adjustment ? good one cheers : )
The lack of a quick-shifter is annoying, as is 5k service intervals. And screen adjuster-wise, they should have just copied the Multistrada V4. Otherwise having ridden it a few times, I agree it's surprisingly good. Another great point I didn't hear you mention, is hydraulic lifters, so no valve adjustment services required. Sort the screen, quick-shifter, and make the service intervals 10k, then BMW and Ducati should begin to worry.
Excellent review! I really like the Harley looks of this bike - best looker of the adventure tourers to me. Power and handling are key in this field and it delivers. I definitely want to buy one. Those whining about no quick shifter - get real. But, I would prefer a hydraulic clutch.
You should try a pull on the clutch, you won’t miss that it’s not hydraulic until it’s time to lube or change the cable. It’s buttery smooth and as easy to pull in as a Honda XR 75.
I loved it after a test ride as well. I agree that the screen adjustment is tricky but I think you'd get used to it with time. I do wish it had a quick shifter... because I just want one. I'd have bought one by now but the accessories are all severely back ordered. I need at least a top case to put some of my junk in there.
Can we assume that Triumph no longer make a comparative machine with similar specifications, comfort & price plus shaft drive for long distance touring? Sometimes motorcycle journalists leave me wondering.
That was a good way to address it. Personally, I don't think it's any more of an issue that KTM's mantis-like headlight, or BMW's tendency to go asymmetrical. As said, they needed to do something different, and different things take some time to grow on you. I've actually come to like the PA's headlight. :-) I really wish reviews would address nighttime riding abilities, though ... how well does the headlight work?
@@MadChalet It's not so much the styling direction as it was execution. That bull-nosed item that appears to house the front light could've been easily more elegantly rendered. It's distinctive, but no in a good way. The same form but not as blunt and beefy would've been more in line with the rest of the design, and would given it a bit more of an athletic look. But he's right. You won't see it from behind the screen! And it's not as bad in black.
Maybe the one I tested was broken but the engine vibrated my hands and nuts off . Genuinely unpleasant at any rpm for me 🤷♂️. Handles great though and the instruments screen is cool.
Seems like a somewhat polarizing bike between reviewers from performance and mechanics to looks. Personally I can't wait to test ride one, but I just cannot get over the cyclopic ridiculous headlight and front end. If they can narrow it down some and maybe consider a round head light or something not so weird I'd be way more serious about a future purchase.But at least it's not a bird beak.
I lived in Seattle for a few years and had to move away due to the rain and cloudy weather. Many others have done the same but we came from sunnier areas. Locals are used to it and no bothers at all.
Rode it twice now but you wont say it has 150bhp. That really suprises me. The lowering down at a stop, personally I find it a gimmick but cleverly marketed to get old small harley riders on this bike.
I don't know how effectively it would work, but its a good feature if it does for the short riders. I'm a short rider myself and the long seat height has been my only barrier to even think about getting an adv tourer even though I always wanted to get one. Now if this bike ticks the other boxes, I can actually get one 😄
@@kabilanmahi2380 875 mm and I read it on a site that it brings the height down to about 790mm when standing.(not verified, just stating what I read on the site)
I'm 5'7" and can flatfoot it with the adaptive ride height feature. Seen a 5'3" woman and a 6'6" man ride it no problem. Just use the pegs to mount, use tri-pod stance when stopped. Very well balanced.
Lots of us older riders are ditching the big adventure bikes and moving to smaller, lighter, less powerful and…cheaper options. Harley have produced a motorcycle for a vanishing demographic.
Doesn’t matter how good it is, it’s got the wrong badge and won’t sell to its target market. Which is a shame. Speaking as an ex HD rider they should’ve kept the Bronx and I wouldn’t be enjoying myself so much on the Suzy. Aimho your mileage may vary.
The Bronx looked so cool, and I can’t stand most harleys. They really messed up there. But hey, if this does well, maybe they’ll rethink about getting rid of the Bronx.
@@jacobremillard There is a lot of people including cycle magazines suggesting HD dumped the Bronx. But that hasn't really been confirmed. HD didn't say they were scrapping the bike, only that they weren't coming out with it this year as originally planned. Due to the pandemic and demand for the Pan Am, they can barely keep up as it is. Releasing two completely new bikes such as Pan Am and the Bronx at the same time, probably would have been a big mistake.
I had a ride height adaptor on my 1990 Suzuki DR250SH [Japan market model. I lived there]. All you did was turn a hydraulic damper on the left side of the bars.
Having ridden the exact same bike at Stratstones I was impressed with the bike but it does have a number of negatives that you did not pick up on. 1) Poor Heated Grips - As an all year rider the grips are poor compared to the competition, even the ones they fit to their own Cruisers! 2) Text too Small on the TFT. 3) Can't have mph and °C as standard units, you are limited to either mph with °F or km/h with °C. 4) Steering lock is located below the steering damper buried deep within the bike making it extremely difficult to use. 5) No keyless - Ignition is keyless but fuel cap and steering lock are not. 6) Suspension in sport mode is too soft. 7) Lacks torque compared to its main competitors. 8) Lack of Pillion Room with Top Box. 9) Too much heat from the rear cylinder, why no rear cylinder deactivation? 10) No option of quickshifter. 11) Dealers seem perplexed by the bike which doesn't inspire confidence. Good first effort, but the KTM and BMW are still better bikes.
This is by all means a commercial presentation. Nothing against it but the lack of consistency coming from the same channel can be misleading. Sometimes they offer a proper evaluation of the bike and at other times... this.
I rode this a fortnight ago. Its not bad, but, I'm only 5'10"and I found it cramped. The pegs are underneath you and the seat to peg distance is disappointing on such a large bike. The throttle response in different modes was disjointed and inconsistent and the screen was useless. Overall it was disappointing and bore no relation to the numerous gushing reviews. Close, but no cigar! There's still a gulf between this and the big three!!
I saw one review that said it shifts really smooth without using the clutch. Dude said it worked better than his Ktm with a quickshifter. Not sure if that's true or not though.
pointless reviewing the tires, they are consumables that get replaced regularly and has anyone decided against a model because of the tires that come with it? bloody idiots if they did.
Harley Davidson Pan America Special: completely useless motorcycle - DO NOT BUY. The electronics has glitches, received error codes multiple times and H-D has attempted several times but can't seem to be able to fix it.
The only way this bike is successful is to charge a lot less than the established competitors and get some market share…thus giving HD some time to refine it….but nope….$19K…..fail.
Can't WAIT to get a test ride on the Pan America!!!
maybe I'll make a ride video too
We don't think you'll be dissapointed!
@@visordown what do you think this pan or tracer 9 gt?
@@visordown i was thinking about a bagger but watching reviews like yours makes me want to switch to the adventure side! Nice vid 👍 cheers
It's awesome. I was very impressed and placed a deposit on one.
I own a 2020 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCX and just bought the Pan America Special with all the options. Both bikes will compliment each other depending on the adventure at hand. The harley will definitely do better off road. Harley killed it with the Pan America!!! The bike is AMAZING!! Better than BMW, KTM and certainly Ducati. This is a motorcycle the other companies now have to compare to. I think it just set a new benchmark in the ADV world. Now I own 2 of the best.
Every review telling the same story , think they have nailed it ...
It's a beautiful design. There will be loads of them on the roads in due time, and for decades to come. It's an instant classic.
Great video. Sounds like it is pretty good. As for the way it looks, I quite like it.
Test rode a Pan Am here in California. I looked down in sport mode and was doing 105 mph. It didn’t feel like it was doing that. My 2012 BMW R1200 GSA feels a lot less stable than that. One bad ass bike that Pan Am.
That is one persuasive review; even moved my Harley-Davidson opinions.
I am not a huge fan of the front fairing headlight assembly, but it isn't enough that I wouldn't buy one. Overall I think Harley built a winner with this bike. Looking forward to seeing this engine in some other bikes.
It's not very often that I hear the only complain on a bike is the windscreen adjustment. As a BMW owner, I really think HD made an amazing bike. Great on them!
Innovative, effective, competitive, what a fight back for Harley. I am not a fan (nor a hater for that matter) of the brand but excited to see them challenging the best ones on that segment.
Fantastic review, you hit the nail on the head…. I’ve had adventure bikes for past 10 years and a Harley for the last 6. Now I’ve just traded my Road King Touring Harley for the Pan America. I can remain in HOG with all the rallies and camaraderie that goes with it but keep my adventure bike. I also own a Multistrada 950S, I may not have that come next summer providing the Pan Am performs as promised. One thing I noticed in bad traffic on a hot day, there is a lot of heat from the rear exhaust header or cylinder, perhaps more than my Ducati, when the engine gets hot, the neutral is difficult to select, it may have just been the bike I demoed but be aware.
The downside of giving up your MS950S is it has about 25+kg more carrying capacity than the PA...which has a measly 201kg payload and precludes 2-up touring (unless you and your SO are the svelt types).
@@WorldBiker thanks for the observation, payload isn’t an issue for us 😉
Fantastic review. Would love to see a quick shifter/blipper included but I’m guessing it will be on the next update.
Nice discussion. How many miles a day do you think you could do on this bike? Or hours?
“One man’s Monet is another man’s dog turd.” Love it 🤣
Well it’s certainly not a Monet! I totally get Harley having to be radical given the competition, and it’s a bit slab faced but it’s cool in its way. My one gripe as a prospective buyer is the sound of the motor and the EU strangulation of the exhaust.
Excellent, polished review. Thank you.
My Pan America Special overheated and blew the engine at 5,000 miles halfway through a 2,500-mile trip. The bike has now been in the shop for three weeks, and today, I finally got an update on the cause. The Tech tells me the manifold going from the Oil Pump to the engine's top-end came loose. They are still waiting for Harley Corp tech support to get back with further instructions. I love the bike, but it doesn't seem like the dealerships want anything to do with servicing and repair it. I hope Harley takes care of me, but I'm skeptical due to being in the shop for three weeks and not getting any update other than they are waiting on Harley's tech support. I did ask the Tech how much internal damage there was, and they said Harley had not instructed them to make any more tear down; they just wanted pics of the cause. However, the Tech did tell me that they did a compression check on the cylinders, and they are entirely different front to back, and there is coolant in my engine oil. Fingers Crossed!
The dealership informed me yesterday afternoon. Harley is shipping a new motor asap, and they have the engine ready to ship. Snake River Harley Davidson in Twin Falls, ID, also told me that it's their number one priority to get my bike back on the road. It was a slow-going first three weeks in the shop, but things seem to be moving now.
@@AdventureGlide Hope it's now all sorted. Hope HD made up for the let down in a way or another
@@oliviermagere I ended up selling the bike back to the dealership. After the engine was replaced, it had electrical major electrical issues that would leave you stranded all the time.
Really great review video! Great content! Keep up the good work!
I like the bike, glad that Harley is back. Only one more thing Harley should get in touch with Akrapovic and have their exhaust for this bike.
That'll never happen, plus it isn't needed because Harley has the Screamin' Eagle line of products which includes a new titanium/carbon fiber high flow exhaust for the Pan America.
@@Avesta. i belive it wont happen . But everyone in bike business from Ktm,Ducati,Bmw... trusts Akrapovic to have their exhaust as the go to parts in their catalogue. This is the way it is, Akra is just the best product in terms on design and quality and biggest bike brands know that.
@@skyworks1621 maybe the best in Europe, no where near the best in America…and this is an American motorcycle lol
@@Avesta. I see you dont own a bike or are you new to motorcycle world. Like brembo akrapovic is to the exhaust. And Harley has Brembo, which comes from Bergamo. Maybe Bergamo is in USA to you that Harley has them. Indian motorcycle has an Akrapovic as the second exhaust. Is Indian from China. Wake up boy.
@@skyworks1621 I own 4 motorcycles and have had over a dozen since I was 11. I can see you come from the immature idiot sport bike world where spending thousands of dollars on a useless exhaust instead of training and skills is considered "cool," but in the REAL WORLD, we've got better shit to spend our money on. Grow up little brand fanboy...Akra might make their own aftermarket parts for the Pan America but Harley will never approach them about it.
I didn't like the look of it at first but the more videos I watched on it the more it grew on me to the point I would buy one
Was out on a test ride on a PanAm special and loved it, I use to own a 2018 GS Rallye and and this is by far a better option, than engine and gearbox is a joy to use, the suspension is a great bit of kit, I'm seriously thinking about trading in my ktm 1290 super duke gt for it...
Very bummed all the dealers near me are not getting one yet and don’t know when they will because they need techs trained to service and maintain them.... That just blew my mind....this bike has been supposed to be coming out for awhile now. Hell they don’t even have a Livewire yet hahahah. Might just be my location but damn that grinds the gears
Supply chain issues for almost everything world wide right now. Darn pandemic fallout. Motorcycle tires and clutch cables are in shortage over here in the US when discussing the issues of motorcycles.
Lovely video, location and Bike. Enjoyed watching.
It's a good lookin bike the engine looks neater than the boxer BM engine for me the only thing that I wonder about is as it has all the bells and whistles in electronics why not an electric screen adjustment ? good one cheers : )
The lack of a quick-shifter is annoying, as is 5k service intervals. And screen adjuster-wise, they should have just copied the Multistrada V4. Otherwise having ridden it a few times, I agree it's surprisingly good. Another great point I didn't hear you mention, is hydraulic lifters, so no valve adjustment services required. Sort the screen, quick-shifter, and make the service intervals 10k, then BMW and Ducati should begin to worry.
Love the headlight
Great video! And great bike!
Wonder if off road on the alloys held in vs spoke wheels
Excellent review! I really like the Harley looks of this bike - best looker of the adventure tourers to me. Power and handling are key in this field and it delivers. I definitely want to buy one. Those whining about no quick shifter - get real. But, I would prefer a hydraulic clutch.
You should try a pull on the clutch, you won’t miss that it’s not hydraulic until it’s time to lube or change the cable. It’s buttery smooth and as easy to pull in as a Honda XR 75.
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I loved it after a test ride as well. I agree that the screen adjustment is tricky but I think you'd get used to it with time.
I do wish it had a quick shifter... because I just want one.
I'd have bought one by now but the accessories are all severely back ordered. I need at least a top case to put some of my junk in there.
That is one handsome looking bike.
Can we assume that Triumph no longer make a comparative machine with similar specifications, comfort & price plus shaft drive for long distance touring? Sometimes motorcycle journalists leave me wondering.
Great review and the "styling" comment was probably the best way to address it.
That was a good way to address it. Personally, I don't think it's any more of an issue that KTM's mantis-like headlight, or BMW's tendency to go asymmetrical. As said, they needed to do something different, and different things take some time to grow on you. I've actually come to like the PA's headlight. :-) I really wish reviews would address nighttime riding abilities, though ... how well does the headlight work?
@@MadChalet It's not so much the styling direction as it was execution. That bull-nosed item that appears to house the front light could've been easily more elegantly rendered. It's distinctive, but no in a good way. The same form but not as blunt and beefy would've been more in line with the rest of the design, and would given it a bit more of an athletic look. But he's right. You won't see it from behind the screen! And it's not as bad in black.
Maybe the one I tested was broken but the engine vibrated my hands and nuts off . Genuinely unpleasant at any rpm for me 🤷♂️.
Handles great though and the instruments screen is cool.
I like the looks of this bike, reminds me of roadglide which is my dream bike.
My friend just got one of the first in Alaska. The bike is amazing!
Look like they done brill job
Great review. Thank you.
What do you think about the wind protection?
Equal to bmw GS and Ducati MS
Wow, surprisingly good.
Seems like a somewhat polarizing bike between reviewers from performance and mechanics to looks. Personally I can't wait to test ride one, but I just cannot get over the cyclopic ridiculous headlight and front end. If they can narrow it down some and maybe consider a round head light or something not so weird I'd be way more serious about a future purchase.But at least it's not a bird beak.
Do y’all ever have sunshine lol. I would leave ASAP living in a place with so much ugly weather.
I lived in Seattle for a few years and had to move away due to the rain and cloudy weather. Many others have done the same but we came from sunnier areas. Locals are used to it and no bothers at all.
Rode it twice now but you wont say it has 150bhp. That really suprises me. The lowering down at a stop, personally I find it a gimmick but cleverly marketed to get old small harley riders on this bike.
He mentions the horsepower a little after 3:00 when he’s describing the engine.
I don't know how effectively it would work, but its a good feature if it does for the short riders. I'm a short rider myself and the long seat height has been my only barrier to even think about getting an adv tourer even though I always wanted to get one. Now if this bike ticks the other boxes, I can actually get one 😄
@@priyambhandari_3 what's the seat height BTW?
@@kabilanmahi2380 875 mm and I read it on a site that it brings the height down to about 790mm when standing.(not verified, just stating what I read on the site)
What is the seat height at its lowest and tallest setting please?
I'm 5'7" and can flatfoot it with the adaptive ride height feature. Seen a 5'3" woman and a 6'6" man ride it no problem. Just use the pegs to mount, use tri-pod stance when stopped. Very well balanced.
Love mines !! Only PAs on Oahu 🇺🇲
Chain drive is a demerit point for me.
Lots of us older riders are ditching the big adventure bikes and moving to smaller, lighter, less powerful and…cheaper options. Harley have produced a motorcycle for a vanishing demographic.
Would look so much better with 2 small round headlights. Appears to be a really good bike but fear current looks will hold it back.
Doesn’t matter how good it is, it’s got the wrong badge and won’t sell to its target market. Which is a shame. Speaking as an ex HD rider they should’ve kept the Bronx and I wouldn’t be enjoying myself so much on the Suzy. Aimho your mileage may vary.
The Bronx looked so cool, and I can’t stand most harleys. They really messed up there. But hey, if this does well, maybe they’ll rethink about getting rid of the Bronx.
@@jacobremillard True but it’s easier to lose customers than acquire new.
@@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou yeah, but if Harely doesn’t change soon, they’ll fade into irrelevance.
@@jacobremillard There is a lot of people including cycle magazines suggesting HD dumped the Bronx. But that hasn't really been confirmed. HD didn't say they were scrapping the bike, only that they weren't coming out with it this year as originally planned. Due to the pandemic and demand for the Pan Am, they can barely keep up as it is. Releasing two completely new bikes such as Pan Am and the Bronx at the same time, probably would have been a big mistake.
How heavy is the Pan America, as they are well known to be heavy buggers.
The weight is competitive in the ADV bike sector.
540 lbs.
Not as heavy as a GS. And £5000 cheaper.
This feels more like a commercial than a review.
I have tried hard and long, but yet to find love for that design language. Guess it will not ‘grow on to me’
I had a ride height adaptor on my 1990 Suzuki DR250SH [Japan market model. I lived there]. All you did was turn a hydraulic damper on the left side of the bars.
Having ridden the exact same bike at Stratstones I was impressed with the bike but it does have a number of negatives that you did not pick up on.
1) Poor Heated Grips - As an all year rider the grips are poor compared to the competition, even the ones they fit to their own Cruisers!
2) Text too Small on the TFT.
3) Can't have mph and °C as standard units, you are limited to either mph with °F or km/h with °C.
4) Steering lock is located below the steering damper buried deep within the bike making it extremely difficult to use.
5) No keyless - Ignition is keyless but fuel cap and steering lock are not.
6) Suspension in sport mode is too soft.
7) Lacks torque compared to its main competitors.
8) Lack of Pillion Room with Top Box.
9) Too much heat from the rear cylinder, why no rear cylinder deactivation?
10) No option of quickshifter.
11) Dealers seem perplexed by the bike which doesn't inspire confidence.
Good first effort, but the KTM and BMW are still better bikes.
first thing first!
A real comparison can come from a bmw gs rider or one has riden a Gs. Not a Harley rider, as for them is totally genre of riding.
Is this a review or an ad? 😂
This is by all means a commercial presentation. Nothing against it but the lack of consistency coming from the same channel can be misleading. Sometimes they offer a proper evaluation of the bike and at other times... this.
I rode this a fortnight ago. Its not bad, but, I'm only 5'10"and I found it cramped. The pegs are underneath you and the seat to peg distance is disappointing on such a large bike. The throttle response in different modes was disjointed and inconsistent and the screen was useless. Overall it was disappointing and bore no relation to the numerous gushing reviews. Close, but no cigar! There's still a gulf between this and the big three!!
Can't believe you didn't mention that no quickshifter is available. Unforgivable oversight - on your and HD's side.
I saw one review that said it shifts really smooth without using the clutch. Dude said it worked better than his Ktm with a quickshifter. Not sure if that's true or not though.
@@Michael-lx4wmNot true, especially on the bike I was on. It was smooth but you still had to use the clutch.
pointless reviewing the tires, they are consumables that get replaced regularly and has anyone decided against a model because of the tires that come with it? bloody idiots if they did.
Harley Davidson Pan America Special: completely useless motorcycle - DO NOT BUY. The electronics has glitches, received error codes multiple times and H-D has attempted several times but can't seem to be able to fix it.
Sooo 55 Kilos heavier than a T-700 & Twice the price ? Yep sounds like a pisser.
or, lighter than a GS, and 3/4 the price. I still wouldn't buy one though!
The only way this bike is successful is to charge a lot less than the established competitors and get some market share…thus giving HD some time to refine it….but nope….$19K…..fail.
That isn't an off road bike.