TURBOCHARGING the New Subaru BRZ is Shockingly Impressive
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Subaru BRZ and the Toyota GR86 are some of my favorite cars on my the market today. With it's 2.4L engine it fixed a lot of issues that I had with the last generation of cars. This 2022 Subaru BRZ we are driving today has a widebody and also a first for me - a turbo kit. I have a ton of seat time in the new GR86 and Toyota BRZ, but I have yet to drive a boosted one. So today we ask the question - is it worth boosted the new Subaru BRZ? Let's talk about it.
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Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? 💁♀
It's not on stock internal with a 13:1 ratio.
did he do anything to address the oiling concerns? These things blow up and don't always get covered even stock under warranty. This is why I hesitate to recommend them to people.
@@Gearbhall Now hold on a second they're perfectly fine motors. The issue you're talking about only affected 1% of owners with GR86s who tracked their car and experienced it on long, fast, high grip right hand turns, then couldn't get Toyota of America to honor the warranty immediately, until enough public outcry made Toyota change their mind.
Basically, it's a very very very specific set of conditions. Subaru on the other hand will honor the warranty *IF* something where to happen to your car. The issue does exist, it's still there, but the chances of you getting a blown engine is lower than winning the lottery. You're robbing yourself from an incredible car because half a dozen people had problems out of thousands. If you're worried about your warranty not being honored, just get the BRZ. If you don't track your car, you're also completely fine. But many people have tracked the twins and have had no issues whatsoever. If these cars blew up constantly, we'd hear about it all the time. You should recommend this platform. There is no need for fearmongering. But what do I know, it's not like I have owned a ZD8 BRZ since January and have had not a single problem with it mechanically.
@@GearbhallI love mine!
Looked like fun.
Glad you enjoyed the car David! Thanks for having me on!
Dude is so humble and chill to be around. Met him at Duncan creek skatepark
Hey man nice build, congratulations.
Dude, easily one of if not my favorite 2nd gen build. Fantastic job.
Awesome build
That body molded fenders are GORGEOUS 😍😍! Great job! Im 100% with you on the need for a turbo BRZ!
OEM+. Has gotta be the most over and incorrectly used phrase in the car world.
Totally agree 😂🤣🤣. This car here has absolutely nothing to do with OEM plus.
finally, a man of taste, someone who actually finishes the body kit install by getting rid of the rivets.
For real. Exposed rivets is big ghey. Looks so half assed. The first gen has so many tacky looking rocket bunny kits with terrible fitment, unpainted fenders, and exposed rivets. It’s almost as if they believe it to be part of the appeal? I don’t get it.
That kit doesn’t look oem at all. The max orido kit is the one to go with if you want oem plus
That body kit on the car looks amazing! Especially that front end
Is that a joke ? It looks like an Alpine A110 with some extra chromosomes
@@PedroPioLopes lets see you mold a body kit
Looks borderline new Z.
Says the one with an overpriced Beetle for a thumbnail
@@OrangeHeadTM Looks better. Like a morph of the old Z and a GR86.
“OEM plus”
Massive wide body kit
Being molded and not just ugly bolted on shit look, makes it much better and more towards a OEM + look
It looks a little more than OEM plus my guys. Lol OEM plus is OEM with a few mods here and there. I consider my car OEM plus with the following mods: wheels/tires, sway bars, catback, CAI, and some minor aesthetic changes. This is highly modified... Awesome body work BTW.
35k for that doesnt sound too bad 👀
right
I'm a honda guy but yes 35k is kinda the sweet spot for me on a newer car.
WRX is also available with basically the same engine turbocharged for around same price. No RWD and much heavier though
No thanks. As much as I like the car 35k is a lot.
Are you serious!! Dude chopped up this car to oblivion to install his wide body kit then moulded with fiberglass which will crack down the road. On top of that, he modded the engine which we have no clue of the workmanship quality. Additionally, the parts added to this build are low to mid grade. Annovia wheels, unknown quality coils, tires that are rubbing under that widebody kit. Can’t slide, drift or track this “show” car, etc… 35k is practically what you would pay for a brand new premium GR86 or limited BRZ OTD with dealer accessories add-on. 19k at most. Even that’s pushing it to be honest.
FINALLY... Someone actually built a very 'cleanly' modified 'tasteful' BRZ
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Wtf an hatiancatdinner
Are you serious!! Dude chopped up this car to oblivion to install is wide body kit then moulded with fiberglass which will crack down the road. On top of that, he modded the engine which we have no clue of the workmanship quality. Additionally, the parts added to this build are low to med grade. Annovia wheels, unknown quality coils, tires that are rubbing under that widebody kit. Can’t slide, drift or track this “show” car, etc… 35k is practically what you would pay for a brand new premium GR86 or limited BRZ OTD with dealer accessories add-on. 19k at most. Even that’s pushing it to be honest.
@@Julianklaus Well, it's a "cleanly" "tasteful" modified show car. But.... is that a good modified car?? I don't think so, because even the owner wants to get rid of it...
What do you mean "finally"? There are a ton of these modified online and 99% are cleaner lol
@@JulianklausCopy paste comment.
People forget ae86 was a 1.6L na car that utilised good dynamics and low weight well
I feel the 86 brz gens have done a good job of being a successor
Like the og ae86 sky is the limit with mods because the dynamics are so good
I’ve followed this dude since the beginning of his BRZ build and there were a few times when I questioned his taste of mods I’m not gonna lie.
DAVE IS KILLING IT!
keep up the great content! 👍❤
Thank you
Sheesh bro, that wide bodykit is fkn _cleaaaan_
i think they nailed it on release, no turbo and very unique chasis handling. Great platform, Tada-San was playing 4D chess.
Yeah it's great car. Power per liter is very impressive for this modern boxer engine and chassis is fantastic. It's also manual and doesn't cost more than a house.
@@SomeOne_86Exactly, it's a fun package that most people can reasonably pay off in a shorter period instead of getting shafted with interest for many more years.
@@SomeOne_86 it's 30 grand. Not good.
@@THESLlCK Without bringing up used cars, name a new sports car thats less than 30k
@@vcrazy_diamond mazda miata, fiat 124, civic SI. Just because all the companies are charging an arm and a leg doesn't mean you have to shill for them.
Also everyone seems to forget something about turbo, it wouldn't cost the same price... If you want a RWD turbo Toyota, there a car that they sell it's called the Supra.
Which isn't selling.....
Supra has a better engine too.
@@mattjingles5758 For the inline four turbo Supra, I prefer the flat four of the GT86; The inline six turbo Supra I totally agree but they are not the same price, nobody cross-shop them, the Supra with the B58 engine cost the double of the GT86 finance and out the door of the dealer.
Because its too expensive for its target crowd @danbufford8848
@@danbufford8848 It's selling, especially now they made it manual, but the 60k price tag is the tough part for most ppl.
320+whp in a car with this weight would be perfect for the street. Still reliable, great handling, etc.. very tempting to do as my next car.
Cool car. Let’s stop misusing the term “oem+” though. Nothing oem plus here. Just a modified car with aftermarket parts.
Eh, where's the rest of the review?
2:57 ayyyyoooo
Offer still stands! I got a 2014 fr-s properly built. 3076r turbo and a visconti flex fuel kit running e85. Full bc suspension semi built transmission, stage 4 exxedy clutch. Makes over 480whp on e85. Northeast Washington!
5 minutes and a sh*t ton of bots
My only issue with these cars is i feel like I'm the only human on earth that understands they are selling 12k cars for 55k. The car and motorcycle industry has become far more non consumer friendly than the video game industry
You really think the bill of materials on this car is as low as 12k? That’s wild.
Dude still living in 1996
@@Barbwire710 the fact you don't understand anything that's going on in the world around you. THaTs WiLddDD
@@HeathenActual500 You’re failing to explain what I don’t understand. This is not a 12k car being sold for 55k. It’s a 20-30k range car being sold for roughly 31k-35k before tax. All manufacturers have to make money of their products, doesn’t matter what car you buy.
where did you get 55k from? I can get a premium from a dealership for 33k right now
>big turbo
>325hp
Lol, lmao
for this car it is 😂😂😂 anymore and it’ll go boom
I mean damn Dave it’s already the right color. You’re just gonna have to buy it now
A C-7 is NOT a muscle car.
10:05 Is the C7 a muscle car? American sports car - yes. Dodge definitely makes muscle cars. I think a muscle car is a car where the engine is the spotlight of the car. I think when Ford and Chevrolet started building sports cars with better handling, like introducing independent rear suspension, made them officially sports cars IMO. I might call a C4 a muscle car, but not a C5.
America doesn’t really make muscle cars anymore. Challenger and charger are dead, while it lasted the Camaro on the alpha platform was a beast, and ford finally entered the late 20th century when they ditched the live rear axle on the mustang. I personally would love to snag a mustang gt350 or a Camaro zl1 one day
I agree but I just asked myself, if they had irs back then would we consider a chevelle muscle if it had irs? Yes not only bc the body style but the motor too, it’s muscle at heart. In a world of v8s and displacement getting phased out, it seems like any v8 is considered muscle now
101 more horsepower over stock is insane . I'd love to see a full how-to and breakdown of the dyno, mapping, install, etc.
The Subaru notification noise is giving me PTSD. Which light keeps coming on? 😂
Davids videos are the reason why I got my own evo 9. I remember going to his farewell meet in my hometown Richmond VA before he moved to Georgia.
No. I’m fine with turbo in my automatic daily (a Taurus SHO) but I want my fun car to be all natural- aspirated that is. It’s more fun to wind it out. Turbos are fun but no matter what you do there is lag and that lag really changes the character of the car.
That's why I would rather put a supercharger on a BRZ, more linear powerband
I agree, I enjoy my na 350z, miata and 240sx.
N/A H22 hatch owner here, all motor can't be beat (for feel/throttle response) obviously more hp with forced induction.
New motor in the first gen body would be my choice 🔥👌
Seems like thay BRZ is perfect for you David! Basically already Grabber Blue too!
I see a lot of youtubers moving into the v8 space as of late... Corvettes aren't only for old guys
That's a great body kit!
"BIG TURBO" and 320whp?
It added over 100 hp to the wheels… How much more do you want?
@@kyzrsosay Let's just say of all the "BIG TURBO" cars I've seen, this is the lowest whp. I'm sure it's fun to drive as-is, just not what I think of when I hear BIG TURBO.
@@kyzrsosayI was looking for this haha
@@LongTim- Guess it all just depends on your perspective. Modern turbos are very efficient. I added ~250whp to my car with a gt2871 which I think most people would agree is a small turbo. I'm in the process of moving to around 500whp over stock with a g30-770 which I would call a medium size turbo.
Just noticed he removed “BIG TURBO” from the title. 😂👍
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Low to mid grade parts and he wants to sell for how much???
Also everyone seems to forget something about turbo, it wouldn't cost the same price... If you want a RWD turbo Toyota, there a car that they sell it's called the Supra. The GT86-BRZ has a lower center of gravity than a Porsche 911 GT3 and even some Ferrari models. The engine is below the Heigh of the top front tire, you can't Mount a tubo without the engine going up or very long exhaust pipe so the turbo will be higher than the engine; Long turbo exhaust pipe=Turbo lag. Adding a turbo will add alot of cost -> ex: the turbo, intercooler, bigger fuel system/brake/Tanss/Diff etc. and oh wait something else that everyone also forget: Weight ! At 2800lbs it's light and fast in corner, it make more than 100HP per liter's for a N/A engine that's some of the most advance engine for the street. I'm sure the price will go up for the best one who keep it pretty original in the future when every car will be silent electric, terribly heavy cat... because I can't believe they don't sell more of them, still a success story but they didn't make history like the first Mustang as they should. The Benchmark for this car was the Cayman which cost the double !
"ThatDudeInACoolBlueBRZ" 👍🏾
YES. Everything is better with a Turbo. But..reliability life is a Big concern.
The rear haunches look like a 370Z
its not a trueno. its a brz. people need to stop calling things what they arent.
I think it's a good idea not to have put a turbo on the car originally, with a turbo it would have been necessary to improve the drivetrain, put a better braking system, better tires and larger wheel etc. with all that the price would not have been affordable. we end up with a really expensive sti
This guy definitely has a different definition of "almost stock/looks stock" than I do.
This is super dope dude. I really like this build especially the wide body look. I always said this gen looks like a Porsche but with the wide body that solidified my statement. This truely looks very similar to a Porsche.
Awesome driving! After watching your video, I think im too aggressive on this track. My fastest lap is only a 1:02.8. mainly 1:03:0s. Just subscribed to your channel.
Ok I’m not hating. The car is beautiful and very nicely done.
However,this thing is so far from “oem plus”.
Oem plus is using parts off pre-existing/new platforms and retrofitting them to a chassis.
Taking parts from the gen 2 brz and putting them on a gen 1 brz would be a oem plus build.
Not hating just can’t stand when random verbiage is just lathered over random things that don’t apply. And don’t get me started on him implying a c7 is a muscle car. 🙄
Beautiful and sleek build that is 100% worth 35k and even 40k.
I’ll be called a hater/gate keeping guaranteed
Are you serious!! Dude chopped up this car to oblivion to install his wide body kit then moulded with fiberglass which will crack down the road. On top of that, he modded the engine which we have no clue of the workmanship quality. Additionally, the parts added to this build are low to med grade. Annovia wheels, unknown quality coils, tires that are rubbing under that widebody kit. Can’t slide, drift or track this “show” car, etc… 35k is practically what you would pay for a brand new premium GR86 or limited BRZ OTD with dealer accessories add-on. 19k at most. Even that’s pushing it to be honest.
@@Julianklaus was going off the what was seen in the video. I think it looks clean. That’s not as a buyer,just a perspective point.
I haven’t looked into the prices of gr86’s was under the notion they where holding value.
However,now thinking about if that makes sense with the engine issues that came up on launch.
I love the color and the kit is perfect
I like everything about the GR86 platform...... except the engine. If it were a vertical inline-4 with the chops of a K series, 4G63, SR20det, or something similar, then all the problems inherent to the boxer flat-4 design would be over.
Subaru boxer motors are lame
They're okay for duty use (in factory form) so long as it doesn't starve of oil and seize up. Just not the stout piece that other engines are, which have been tuned to north of 1,000 hp in some cases.
A standard I4 would raise the center of gravity though and the GR86 tried to get it as low as possible.
Excited to see Brandon’s car on the channel. This is a sweet local build!
How easy, how much power, how much bang for buck don't get me wrong I love them all, but I'm still middle class or C6 money pit #1 priority bottom middle class 😂
from what I heard they were gonna boost it from factory but didnt because it was gonna be more expensive. so from factory, they're ready to be boosted.
Yeah, this ain't "OEM+" (and that's a good thing), but great job on installing the widebody correctly and not going with the whole half assed 'drift look'. Slapped on kits with exposed rivets is not a look people. Stop purposely making your cars look like drift pigs.
Honestly on the fa24 platform it definitely shouldve been boosted from factory considering subarus entire lineup uses that exact same engine. Considering the power numbers the turboed wrx fa24 makes with just the cobb package that is still carb legal (I believe it was 400-450 to the wheel), no reason to not release the car boosted. Couldve just released a boosted trim. Idk especially at times where the entire hate for the car is "SlOw 86". The extra power in a light car wouldve been a welcome change in my eyes.
Gt86 an brz are such great cars for all aspects of motorsport, but they will never be as good as a trueno!! AE86 is king of JDM N/a
As much as I think the GR86 is a great car, I’m still 50/50 if I were to get one. I don’t think I could afford Subaru issues. Maybe if Toyota drops the 3 cyl from the Corolla
Nice job on the body work. Looks great 🔥
It seems like it would have been easier to just snag an FA24DIT from a wrecked WRX, ascent, or outback?
Or is it too tall with the turbo underneath?
You know, an f24 WRX engine either with the manual or the auto would be a 400z killer on the BRZ, an STI trim of some sorts, too bad subbie no longer likes fun.
If they use the 3 cylinder turbo in the 86 I'll probably pick one up. Might even trade in the Genny.
If others have pushed this engine to 500 hp on stock motor how come he only went up to 325 whp?
Seems to me he could’ve gone up to 380 whp safely.
he probably wants to still be able to drift it without cooling issues
With that kit he has on, there is no drifting going to happen 😂😂🤣. This kit will fall apart and the fiberglass moulding will start to crack sooner. This is a dressed up vehicle with a turbo. Not very functional and whoever buys this for 35k will be a fool.
🧐 I wonder if that turbo kit would work on my wife's base Impreza.
Who ever buys this BRZ your so lucky! What is that turbokit, I have a friend looking for one?
from what i hear, the FA24 is a beast of a motor. much stronger than the 2.0
Do you guys think next gen is comming with yaris GR engine?
daydreaming while saying "If i wanted to go E85" is a very real emotion
Not super keen on that kit tho , the car looks super round and bubbly now , but just my opinion
Why do people run water lines to turbo like that?Run them up from bottom looks so much cleaner
500hp stock block 2nd gen BRZ/GT86
I assume NA (?)
A corvette is not a "muscle car" young bro. 100% sport.
Wow, fantastically presented and compelling
find some one with a 3sgte/ 5sgte swapped gr 86
They should’ve used the motor thats in the lexus is200t
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Oh wow a less interesting and slower version of a del sol. How boring
Turbos make everything better….
I hate the new gen because their engines blow and bad oil pick up
Yes more brz content!
"In 2024, Subaru released the BRZ tS (tS standing for "tuned by STI") as a new trim that features an upgraded interior with blue stitching, an STI-themed instrument cluster, a red STI engine start button, golden 4-piston Brembo brakes in the front, 2-piston brakes in the back, upgraded suspension, black metallic finish wheels and black mirror caps. It also features Subaru's Eyesight system with the manual transmission along with the rest of the 2024 model trims. The tS trim is only available with the manual transmission, and is based on the Limited trim, featuring heated seats and a similar interior design. While previous tS editions of the cars were under limited production, this one is mass-produced. The customer is able choose the car's color, add accessories, etc."
So an NA 2.4 making 230hp. suspension (who makes the suspension?), and expensive brakes.
*Can we just get the 2015 STi concept please?*
Oh, I forget required 93 octane and the fancy stitched interior. At least it weighs less than 3k lbs
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I don't like the idea that GT86/BRZ/MX-5 shouldn't get more powerful versions. Make the affordable one for sure, but why not have a TRD/STI/Mazdaspeed version of those respective cars for power nuts like me? I don't see where 100hp over stock would ruin any of these cars and I am sure there is a market for high performance varients. Not saying don't keep making the normal ones, but why do auto journalists argue against more powerful iterations of these cars?
Because the point is to give people and affordable sportscar as an option.
Let's not even get into turbo land, keep the theoretical powerful version NA. It'd probably need different compression ratio to make extra power, so a different bore and stroke combination, which means a bespoke rotating assembly, and either a different block (current one is already looking real tight, not much space for extra bore).
Yes, every car is overbuilt already, but the extra powerful variant can't build less, or even the same peak numbers as the regular car, so everything has to be more reinforced. Probably a different flywheel, maybe stronger gears in the transmission, beefier driveshaft, differential and axles to handle extra power. Even more so if we were to add a turbo or 2 to the mix.
Different parts have to be more expensive, because they won't sell in big numbers. Toyota/Subaru can't disolve that extra cost between a ton of cars, so the extra powerful versions would obviously have to cost extra. Push this platform any higher up market, and the interior just isn't good enough. Push it even further up market, and we're in S650 Mustang and A90 Supra land, that's how you kill the affordable sportscar, like all the rest of them (minus Miata) from the 80s and 90s
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The engine will blow just know that.
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I'll maintain this... WRONG engine. That Boxer engine is stupid.
This was a perfect time for Toyota's G-R skunkworks to deliver the long awaited, still hoping: 3JZ Inline 6.
As an owner of one of these, I do wish they had offered a 6cyl version of this car. Even if it was a Subaru 6. I would have paid the extra.
save your money kids and buy a 370z
You should try @chrisborges brz, at 500+ HP on stock block, thing is a ripper
We’ve definitely loss the plot on oem+
Turbo problems < N/A all day 🏁
4:37 what y’all talking about? 😅
The c5 coupe would be the better choice for a JDM build tbh. It already looks like a FD3S. Any type of aero on that car looks great. LS engine. Double wishbone suspension front & back. PLUS POP UP HEADLIGHTS.
David, my man. a GR86 might be calling your name. You can track it, drift it, do some spirited driving. it seems like it might be your thing.
It should have come with a turbo from the factory! Awesome build!
OMG I love what that dude did to the gorgeous BRZ. He made that body himself?.. amazing.
The bodykit molding is impressive. Love the effort the car had! The bov sounds great. Not a fan of the front bumper though.
This thing is gorgeous! This platform easily could've been the new "Supra" instead of that other bullshit. Lol
I would love to buy this whip.
I don't understand folks who love one type of car while hating another type, you're just biased and not actually a car enthusiast, why focus on our differences instead of what you have in common, our love of cars...