FIRST LISTEN to Joy Division || Disorder
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- This is my first time ever reaction to the song Disorder by the English 80's alternative band Joy Division. This is from the album 'Unknown Pleasures' and is the most popular from that album. The bass, guitar and vocals really stood out to me in this track and really reminded me of all the other popular tracks from it's time and more recent tracks in the indie rock scene that I enjoy.
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A lot of people don't vibe with punk/industrial synthetic pop/rock but it gave rise to modern rock, experimental, grunge, dance, EDM, trance, hip-hop and others.
It really makes me smile to watch someone discover JD so many years after I first played it. For the record, the album came out on Friday, June 15th, 1979. I eagerly bought it and played it as a 15 year old on Saturday, June 16th, 1979 😉
It really was a game changer in the course of Post-Punk music, although the same has to be said of "Public Image" by Public Image Limited. If you haven't heard it before, you need to do so immediately, if not sooner. If you liked the bass on Disorder, you'll love the bass on "Public Image" from the very first bar 😍
You should give Wire ago as they were a British band around the same time and also quite raw, like their songs 12XU or Three Girl Rhumba. As a warning their songs are known to be quite short.
Yes WIRE are a must listen. I would go as far as to say their music was more influential and wider reaching than that of JD. When you listen to those first 3 WIRE albums, Pink Flag(‘77), Chairs Missing(‘78) and 154(‘79)….you can hear so much of the music of other bands that came along in the years that followed . Those albums are So ahead of their time and they sound so current today.
Please more Joy Division
Stephen Morris (drummer) is just perfect in this
Steven Morris was brilliant and as drum machines become more popular he was able to make a take the raw power of real drums and his ability to push through long and demanding tracks averaging seven minutes or more to make it a special banger. Add Peter Hook and his insistence to not only keep the bass guitar in the band sound but he gave new order the unmistakable sound that was the use of a driving bass guitar sound that was never played as bass guitar was usually played. He made the bass guitar playing as the lead to create riffs that was never played before and gave the electric sound of the band something special that was amazing
As an old school music lover I was lucky enough to grow up in a time when punk had made its mark but it was a very depressing experience that was living in the UK in the 70s and early 80s where the youth were unemployed, uninspired and generally a sense of depression that defined the time. Along came joy division and perfectly reflected the way that many of us would be feeling. It was our own emo movement, and a songwriter that had a gift for telling a story that rarely has been equalled with dark complex and impactful meanings that sometimes contradicted the post punk experience. Genuine love to see a young person experience the sound that is instrumental in the evolution of the music that was to come, with a vulnerability that has been lost by the music scene today. The music was made for the love of music and the chance to be heard, and to give us something to belong to, a whole new generation of music that broke many of the rules that punk was supposed to have done.. This was a time for the feeling of excitement and discovery and the beginning of the era of the Manchester movement that dominated the music scene and inspired original and exciting new genres and bands such as new order using the electronic evolution that was started by joy division... A guitar driven sound that was added the elements of kraftwork and making the impossible idea that was to be legendary... You go to raves and still get to hear the DJ drop in blue Monday and blow everyone's mind on a favourite blast of nostalgia, and it worked, it still sounds like something that was realised today on an indie label. As you can see it really grips you tightly with emotion that you can't help but relive those years of teenage discovery. So much that I am aware that I have been dribbling on way too long, but like we were back, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks because I don't give a fuck about anything else until this band arrived
A new subscriber here for Joy Division, I love your honest reaction to my favourite band. They were so influential onso many bands considering they were not very commercially successful. They were not around for long because of the death of the lead singer Ian Curtis, Bernard Sumner on guitar, the legendary Peter Hook on Bass with the metronomic powerhouse Stephen Morris on drums. I hope you do the whole album but is not at least listen to New Dawn Fades another classic from the band. And maybe sog into their history and how they went on to become New Order. One of rocks great tragedies. Some.classics not on the album, Transmission, Isolation, Heart and Soul and Atmosphere.
This entire album is fantastic. The 'Closer' album from 1980 is also equally excellent and highly recommended. It's a real shame that Ian Curtis wasn't able to get the help that he needed to deal with his problems. You can only wonder how many more great albums that Joy Division could have put out if things had been different. As for his vocal style, he reminds me a little of Jim Morrison of The Doors.
And if you vibe with post-punk, you should check out another English band called The Sound. Their first two albums especially. Another English post-punk band that I'd highly recommend is The Chameleons.
i don't think you can 'help' a troubled genius, they could have given him drugs to prevent him being depressed but then he wouldn't have made this music
"It's so raw" - yep and that's what I've always loved about JD/NO and all the other Factory Records bands of the time. You don't have to have a perfect voice just convince me you're telling your truth. So I'm still listening to Section 25/Crispy Ambulance/Stockholm Monsters/The Names/Tunnelvision
Thanks for the recommendation. Jumping from Joy Division to Alison's Halo immediately made me think you might enjoy the band This Mortal Coil (esp "Song to the Siren"). There was a unique pocket of alternative music from the label 4AD starting in the early 80s that many post-punk/new wave/alternative fans enjoyed. Music from Dead Can Dance is also worth trying out if you're ever in the mood for something kinda ethereal, definitely not something oncthe radio.
This takes me back to when Skate 3 first came out. Nostalgic as hell.
It sounds underproduced, but the fact is it was massively overproduced and the band didn't like it as it wasn't how they sounded when they were playing live. When you've finished listening to one of the all-time classic albums (and that's no understatement) have a read about Martin Hannett (seriously mental genius) and the way he produced this album. Listen to this track again and try and pick out the weird extras Hannett mixed in. Check this clip from a magazine article "Probably the best introduction to Martin Hannett’s psychosis is a quote from Peter Hook: “In the studio, we’d sit on the left, he’d sit on the right and if we said anything like ‘I think the guitars are a bit quiet, Martin, he’d scream, ‘Oh my god! Why don’t you just fuck off!’”. Great producer/artist relationship, and there is so much more.
You might like some of the Fall, even the Jam. XTC were a fantastic UK band. Early Banshees and Cure. I'm 61, so was in my teens when so many great music was even in the charts.
I was a very geeky 9 years old when this came out and recall sitting cross-legged on the bedroom floor in front of my hand-me-down BSR record deck, enthralled by its hypnotic, brittle repetitive rhythms, all sharp elbows, involuntary spastic jerks and sleek industrial machinery in music form. It's good to see your generation pay their due, I often think yours and mine have a lot in common.
Oh yeah and give atmosphere a listen, Ian Curtis was obsessed by kraftwork and the new alien and disconnected sound that he was determined to bring into the sound of the band. The song was ahead of its time, there wasn't any other band that had tried this, so it would be the blueprint of many new bands to come.
Interesting thought experiment: Around this same time U2 had used Martin Hannett as producer on their early single "11 O'Clock Tick Tock" but found him difficult to work with, so instead ended up going with Steve Lillywhite for their first album. I've always wondered what the respective albums would have sounded like had U2 stuck with Hannett for "Boy" and JD had gone with Lillywhite for "Unknown Pleasures."
The beauty of Hookie's bass sound & style, was almost there as a "lead" or being the melody on a lot of JD tracks. I envy the fact he can play a Rickey 4003 with effortless ease too....
If you want a great Joy Division track that often gets overlooked, then check this out.....
ruclips.net/video/J4RHLFSfD2A/видео.htmlsi=iw53bSSAfTEm3R5S promise you, if you think Disorder is good, this will send you into another world. The strain in Ian's voice, the emotions are all there and it demonstrates all the complexity in his mind at the time. Nowadays someone might've been aware enough to have a word and keep a close eye on Curtis. Sadly hindsight is such a wonderful idea when it becomes academic anyway 😢😢😢
Peter Hook plays his bass picked like a six string. It really drove and punctuated Joy Division and New Order songs. I recommend watching the movie “Control” for some perspective.
If you want to delve into some classic post-punk British music from that era, you could do worse than to check out the album "Entertainment" by Gang of Four. A good place to start would be the song "Damaged Goods", as the song was the lead track on their debut EP, but the album version has crisper production and a more visceral feel to it.
Thanks peroxide love the tunes
I love how you mentioned the bass, the bass carries this album and Peter Hook (the bassist) is regarded as 1 of the best bass players ever and uniquely played it with a high pitch as opposed to a low pitch, just wait till you hear the other tracks. Fun fact: Joy Division formed partially out of spite because they thought the Sex Pistols were dogshit when they attended their concert.
Where’d you get that false information from, they literally started the band because of sex pistols and wanted to make punk music, but Martin Hannett had his say in it all, thank god
@@xMsry7 Peter Hook explicitly said it in an interview, they wanted to do Punk but they didn't think the Sex Pistols were good.
@@xMsry7 correct, JD were one of many bands that formed after they saw the infamous "gig that changed the world" by the Sex Pistols in Manchester in 1976. The other bands were Buzzcocks, The Fall and The Smiths.
@@Reani71 You're right about Joy Division, Buzzcocks and The Fall, but not The Smiths. The first Smiths show wasn't until the end of 1982. Three of The Smiths were still 12 years old when that Sex Pistols show at the Manchester Free Trade Hall happened.
@@davemackenzie9011 I did not say that all band members were there, Morrissey definitely was.
Since you cannot post links other than youtube links here I can only give you proof by other youtube videos so here we go:
Morrissey is mentioned around minute 8 and again around minute 18:
ruclips.net/video/Zr0yYnTfuFk/видео.html&ab_channel=JamesHargreavesGuitar
He also talks about it in his autobiography and you can read it on many music sites outside of youtube.
No special recommendation, because there are only 2.5 albums from Joy Division and I dig everything. But I'll be happy, if you go on with them. Maybe try Bauhaus too ("I dare you").
Very good
More Joy Division please, then maybe go on to New Order. Thanks.
Overproduced.... that's exactly why I don't like new stuff. These guys they just winged it. They tried something new and they took a chance. And it worked. Modern music socks because no one wants to just experiment and explore and take a chance on an idea and not be afraid it may fail.
I recommend you bands Japanese music such as bloodthirsty butchers, bump of chicken, susumu hirasawa, TRIBAL CHAIR and MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS and the salovers and hanuman
This one was kinda mediocre. If you wanna hear the best stuff from them, here is a list of their absolute best:
-Atmosphere
-New dawn fades
-Ice age
-Wilderness
-Day of the lords
-24 hours
-Walk in line
I probably left out two or three more, that should be on this list, because I can't remember them at this moment, but you have enough to go trough for now 🙂
Transmission
She's Lost Control
In a Lonely Place (New Order)
Do Yourself a Favour & Listen to NEW DAWN FADES .. The Best Song on tge Album . A SUPERB ALBUM IT IS TOO