1:40:45 The thing with people like Bobux is that any attempts to show them otherwise, to guide them away, to discourage them, or even discipline them and deal with the consequences of their actions will ultimately fail if it remains within the realm of virtual space as they are still swaddled away from the harm they cause. There is no sizeable cost that they have to personally experience, because to them all the criticisms against them is just white noise and they’re still free to log back on and repeat the horrid process. People like Bobux would have to face financial and criminal consequences for their actions, but it’s so baked into the culture that this kind of behavior is tolerated when it really shouldn’t be. Bobux exists because there is nothing stopping him, and he has everything to gain to keep going even if the reasons from our perspectives is inane. And I have to bet that even if he did clue in and his neurons actually connected the pieces together he’ll still find some way to deflect blame because, judging by the way he acts, he thinks it’s the entire world out to get him and he’s not at fault.
Hello, i wanted to say i really enjoyed your video. i had to watch it over 11 days but it was worth it I don't know how much time it took you but thank you really for making this video. I've never been too much in the community but i found it really interesting, and seeing the username of everyone i dueled over the last 2 years into these dramas was pretty funny. And that conclusion was very well written. I've always defended tb throughout the years because the game was fun, but the last months, because of thes events, i can't even enjoy the game anymore. Also concerning Friebxll at 1:09:01 , funny thing is that i won in a ft5 and he said something like "we are gonna send hackers to rdm you" cuz he coudn't handle defeat Anyways thank you for making this video and putting all that work.
So what I can say about Teddo is that not only is he incredibly insecure and unfunny, because no one puts this much stock into their supposed racial supremacy if they actually had something worthwhile in their lives, but he's desperate for some kind of audience to dump his inane ranting on because it's clear no one outside of his circle actually enjoys his company or takes him seriously. Like you don't get this kind of obsessiveness if you have a healthy social network and a sound mind that isn't poisoned by extremist ideology. I'm pretty sure Teddo and his circle operate like parasites that feed off of each other's self-inflicted loneliness where the only people that are capable of occupying the same space and tolerating their toxicity for more than a minute is each other. The only reason they don't devolve into mass in-fighting is because they have a mutual enemy they hate more than each other, but they'll happily backstab one another to obtain Internet dopamine as you've pointed out. Would be pretty amusing if Teddo was actually masquerading as an extremely racist Chiv2 player just to ruin the image of OMK and Chiv2 as a whole, but that would be fanfiction trying to spin a bit of spice on some truly pathetic individuals who amount to nothing outside of a niche game.
Oh I made an appearance haha 😅 yeah I never stopped playing chivalry. Once I got to level 1000 on my epic account, I started ranking up my steam account, I’m half way through the 300s ^_^ I did have to stop streaming and even stop using game chat to put ease on my mental health -if I’m not in the light then I don’t get targeted… I’ll be back soon, and with dope chivalry content, of the Australian variety, pretty sure we play on a different level but I’ll just have to travel the world to find out, can’t wait to collect some fresh heads.
Hey Luna! Thanks for the corrections regarding your activity and such. It's a shame to have to step back to circumvent harassment in such a way but I'm glad it was for the better. Took a brief look at your channel and I can see you're taking it in your stride. Power to you! I've absconded from Chivalry 2 - and likely will for a while - but I sincerely hope that despite the state of the game and the precedent it sets for the genre and industry, you'll continue to have good fun with it. Regardless of Chivalry 2's fate, I hope the video was at least an entertaining watch. Thank you for your viewership!
@@larubric Just finished it (fell asleep during teddo), this felt like a good encyclopedia on chivalry 2, one thing is clear, a lot of people love the core of this game and want it to exist properly, hopefully capitalism will lose it's grasp on this one.
Alas, I feel this video is more of a post-mortem than an attempt to change the game. Even after the final update, the methods of harassment and cheating hackers have at their disposal now are even better than before. The urgent address the game needs will not be given. TBS moved on a long time ago. I sincerely hope you can still find fun in Chivalry 2 but, for me, it's just not worth it anymore.
I am an avid chiv 2 player and while i dont engage with the community as i play with friends on TO this is a very well made and entertaining video that brought light to some detestable people online. however i can't help but think that the only thing this video showed is that teenagers (and a few adults) on the internet and more specificaly on the competitive scene of a video game do and say horrible things which is nothing new tbh and like in real life best you can do is avoid them and let them rot in their own cesspool. still great video! (sorry for any grammar mistakes).
i can't help but agree, seeing all these people really just make me very sad. how lonely, irony-poisoned, and empty does everyone here seem. especially the kids, it's genuinely a bit depressing. i wonder what kind of life one must have led, to be so deeply nihilistic and detached at such a young age. the older they get, the quicker my sympathy dries, of course -- as a certified freak in at least eight ways, they'd have a field day with me. still, as hilarious as this video is, and while it uses the case studies to make an intelligible point, a lot of it has a slight cynical edge and _does_ just leave me rather sad. i wish these boys to become able to experience real love, i wish their lives lead them, somehow, to a place where they experience the beauty of sincerity and connection one day, and i hope they become better so they stop making their lives the world's problem. what a waste, to lead a life so full of nothing, to leave the world worse-off and then be forgotten.
I've been searching for answers for months as to who these VeN guys are and why they are ruining our game. I can't thank you enough for this. It's absolutely fascinating. Love the delivery style as well. Reminds me of Zero Ounctuation a bit who I love. Seriously, great job.
Was listening to it a first time and got halfway through at work, now that I'm off the clock I'll properly watch it in full with visuals to learn why having a fan-base like Deep Rock Galactic or Titanfall2 should be cherished while I draw either (A) the Metroid Prime Hunters cast _or_ (B) an unreasonably tall Samurott woman There was no reason for me to be that specific, but I was.
Probably will! Gotta lot on my plate rn but I was very kindly offered a chance to do a sponsored vid. Wanna make sure I would actually have something unique to say before agreeing to anything like that, though.
I'm almost 3 hours in. Wild stuff! You put more effort into 10 minutes of this than I have with anything in my entire life haha I had no idea there was this dark underbelly of organized weirdos in chiv. I mean, besides the surface level cesspool of game chat. Hunting people down is lame af. I now remember someone saying they were being hunted and was in discord with the person hunting them/DDoSing whichever server they were in. I have like 700 hours over the last year but I'm a TO player. I've actually come across a lot of these guys. I'm now remembering things people have said in chat that puts things in context. Also, I was surprised to see my player name show up in this video...and not in a good light haha. This makes sense now when people were defending me as the "good" one. Maybe that was you, not sure if you play NA servers at all. EDIT: To clarify, someone has the same player name as me
Hey amazing video im not finished yet, but concerning krazd at 46:13 i think he left the game after saying that he had allegedly infiltrated ven and was about to tell everything, but tornbanner "silenced" him for 100$ wich sounds stupid but thats what i remember
This is almost certainly just a made up story. They have spread stories like this many times before and they have been provably false. What actually happened is Deus Vult and Krazd had a falling out over various things and so Krazd is no longer part of that group. Though he used to hack as well.
Holy shit, I'm honestly glad I spent my afternoon watching this video It definitely was a trip knowing everything about a game and a community I knew nothing about
This shit sounds so fkin much like TF2, but without any sense of chill or self fkin awareness- it's like a lobby of sniper and spy mains. Amd also welcome to the banner of "vigilante" Sucks more cuz I wanted at some point try out this game, idk how Mordhau is doing, tho I wouldn't be suprised if it also had a entitled asshat streak as it also requires skill to play.
1:59:22 Breaking Bad reference, jokes aside it pains me that a game I've found quite fun in my short time with it harbors such a toxic and aggressive community within it.
2:12:36 i am sorry to say that you missed to censor a slur here. i already commented on the original upload so i don't have anything more interesting to say
Just finished the whole video and wow. I'm kind of glad I don't play on PC. I had no idea this game could be THAT toxic. It's fine to be angry and even have rivalries but these scumbags going so far beyond that is disgusting. It's just a game man. The game doesn't even take itself that seriously.
I never knew about this stuff. I mostly played on ps5 and somtimes hung out in some dueling maps and had a lot of fun like chilling and messing around. I never knew about the hacking stuff.
I remember when I first moved to Chiv 2 from Mordhau because I thought it was somehow *less* blatantly racist and homophobic. Have you considered playing fighting games Rubric? Theres a similar back and forth to Chiv depending on the game, and often have similar rock/paper/scissors elements to how chiv uses strike/jab/kick, with wrong guesses being punished. Hope you find another slashy slashy outlet soon
2:23:04 Wanted to point out that the hyperfocus on Muslims as a threat to the Western culture sphere is probably part of a larger problem of Western chauvinism coloring people's perspective of the world and their attitudes toward certain ethnicities and cultures. Recently Richard Dawkins, a British atheist, praised Christianity because the aesthetic of the English Protestant religion was much more pleasing to him than his idea of how Muslim culture operates. Richard Dawkins, a man who made a cultural name for himself by being one of the leading figures in the militant New Atheism, aligned himself with theocracy because of vibes (and racism). Anti-Muslim sentiment is not only rooted in racism, but has foundations in the belief that the Western European culture sphere, or Europe in general but that gets pretty spicy depending on who you ask, is inherently superior due to an overly simplistic and romanticized view of history.
Had to take the Discord invite down for some time to avoid hate raids from the group I speak about, who are known to raid servers. I will reopen it some time in the future.
Still good video. Shame it was sent to a farm out in the country because people were scared of the reverse golden rule. To be honest after thinking about this video more (The Original one) I've kind of lost a desire to play this game. Maybe my yearly survival game urge broke it, maybe this vid was the straw that broke the camels back, maybe the lack of updates in general made me unenthusiastic, but I just have little interest right now. Its a shame, as Chivalry 2 is the really the only game of its kind, wish this genre had more effort put into it.
Damn bro you'd think if they were that proud to be shitty people they wouldn't be so meek as to try and get the video taken down when called out
(They're still desperately trying to btw)
@@rtasvawhat shitstains
How many Ven members does it take to turn on a lightbulb?
Answer - 5: one to turn it on, and 4 more to complain their faces are now visible.
I DONT CARE IM WATCHING IT AGAIN
Jokes on you, funny British dog man, I don't have to rewatch this video again because I am watching it for the first time.
1:40:45 The thing with people like Bobux is that any attempts to show them otherwise, to guide them away, to discourage them, or even discipline them and deal with the consequences of their actions will ultimately fail if it remains within the realm of virtual space as they are still swaddled away from the harm they cause. There is no sizeable cost that they have to personally experience, because to them all the criticisms against them is just white noise and they’re still free to log back on and repeat the horrid process.
People like Bobux would have to face financial and criminal consequences for their actions, but it’s so baked into the culture that this kind of behavior is tolerated when it really shouldn’t be. Bobux exists because there is nothing stopping him, and he has everything to gain to keep going even if the reasons from our perspectives is inane.
And I have to bet that even if he did clue in and his neurons actually connected the pieces together he’ll still find some way to deflect blame because, judging by the way he acts, he thinks it’s the entire world out to get him and he’s not at fault.
Hello, i wanted to say i really enjoyed your video. i had to watch it over 11 days but it was worth it
I don't know how much time it took you but thank you really for making this video.
I've never been too much in the community but i found it really interesting, and seeing the username of everyone i dueled over the last 2 years into these dramas was pretty funny.
And that conclusion was very well written. I've always defended tb throughout the years because the game was fun, but the last months, because of thes events, i can't even enjoy the game anymore.
Also concerning Friebxll at 1:09:01 , funny thing is that i won in a ft5 and he said something like "we are gonna send hackers to rdm you" cuz he coudn't handle defeat
Anyways thank you for making this video and putting all that work.
Thank you for the comment! Appreciate the viewership.
Thank you for the Reupload!
Feels like a documentary about wild animals, honestly. Hilarious to watch.
ITS TIIIIIIIME .... TO REWATCH THIS PIECE OF JEWEL
Once again Mordhau comes out on top with our -28 playerbase
Plottwist: Teddo himself sending Rubric the screenshots
In theory he did 😂 its all public knowledge
Sir yes sir, I will leave this vid in the background
God damn, this video has a production value better than channels with 100x the subscribers. Very well crafted!
Insta subbed
Vito here, thank you for this video bro
So what I can say about Teddo is that not only is he incredibly insecure and unfunny, because no one puts this much stock into their supposed racial supremacy if they actually had something worthwhile in their lives, but he's desperate for some kind of audience to dump his inane ranting on because it's clear no one outside of his circle actually enjoys his company or takes him seriously. Like you don't get this kind of obsessiveness if you have a healthy social network and a sound mind that isn't poisoned by extremist ideology.
I'm pretty sure Teddo and his circle operate like parasites that feed off of each other's self-inflicted loneliness where the only people that are capable of occupying the same space and tolerating their toxicity for more than a minute is each other. The only reason they don't devolve into mass in-fighting is because they have a mutual enemy they hate more than each other, but they'll happily backstab one another to obtain Internet dopamine as you've pointed out.
Would be pretty amusing if Teddo was actually masquerading as an extremely racist Chiv2 player just to ruin the image of OMK and Chiv2 as a whole, but that would be fanfiction trying to spin a bit of spice on some truly pathetic individuals who amount to nothing outside of a niche game.
Welcome back soldier 🫡🫡
The sheer amount of effort just to bleep out every slur...
Impressive video
reposted yesterday, already more views than the first had in a week. well done teddo, you really showed us.
I'll watch it again because it was great and actually quite informative. Also to spite those cowards who lost all bravery once put on blast.
Memory wiped I'm watching It all again
I wanted to play chivalry today so instead I watched the 4 hour community dissertation video
The deed is done. You're the goat Smug, don't forget that.
Ah shit, here we go again.
I cant wait to finish this video for the second time just to watch it a third time
More than happy to watch this a second time!
This video fucking rules
Oh I made an appearance haha 😅 yeah I never stopped playing chivalry. Once I got to level 1000 on my epic account, I started ranking up my steam account, I’m half way through the 300s ^_^ I did have to stop streaming and even stop using game chat to put ease on my mental health -if I’m not in the light then I don’t get targeted… I’ll be back soon, and with dope chivalry content, of the Australian variety, pretty sure we play on a different level but I’ll just have to travel the world to find out, can’t wait to collect some fresh heads.
Still watching, it still fucking rules and is just getting better and better
Hey Luna! Thanks for the corrections regarding your activity and such. It's a shame to have to step back to circumvent harassment in such a way but I'm glad it was for the better. Took a brief look at your channel and I can see you're taking it in your stride. Power to you! I've absconded from Chivalry 2 - and likely will for a while - but I sincerely hope that despite the state of the game and the precedent it sets for the genre and industry, you'll continue to have good fun with it. Regardless of Chivalry 2's fate, I hope the video was at least an entertaining watch. Thank you for your viewership!
@@larubric Just finished it (fell asleep during teddo), this felt like a good encyclopedia on chivalry 2, one thing is clear, a lot of people love the core of this game and want it to exist properly, hopefully capitalism will lose it's grasp on this one.
Alas, I feel this video is more of a post-mortem than an attempt to change the game. Even after the final update, the methods of harassment and cheating hackers have at their disposal now are even better than before. The urgent address the game needs will not be given. TBS moved on a long time ago. I sincerely hope you can still find fun in Chivalry 2 but, for me, it's just not worth it anymore.
I love that the shitpost about google products being an IP grabber is how I show up in the video. Good screenshot. 2:14:02 for that.
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Great video! And great terror knowing NMRIH2 is being made by this studio.
I am an avid chiv 2 player and while i dont engage with the community as i play with friends on TO this is a very well made and entertaining video that brought light to some detestable people online. however i can't help but think that the only thing this video showed is that teenagers (and a few adults) on the internet and more specificaly on the competitive scene of a video game do and say horrible things which is nothing new tbh and like in real life best you can do is avoid them and let them rot in their own cesspool. still great video! (sorry for any grammar mistakes).
i can't help but agree, seeing all these people really just make me very sad. how lonely, irony-poisoned, and empty does everyone here seem. especially the kids, it's genuinely a bit depressing. i wonder what kind of life one must have led, to be so deeply nihilistic and detached at such a young age. the older they get, the quicker my sympathy dries, of course -- as a certified freak in at least eight ways, they'd have a field day with me. still, as hilarious as this video is, and while it uses the case studies to make an intelligible point, a lot of it has a slight cynical edge and _does_ just leave me rather sad. i wish these boys to become able to experience real love, i wish their lives lead them, somehow, to a place where they experience the beauty of sincerity and connection one day, and i hope they become better so they stop making their lives the world's problem. what a waste, to lead a life so full of nothing, to leave the world worse-off and then be forgotten.
I've been searching for answers for months as to who these VeN guys are and why they are ruining our game.
I can't thank you enough for this. It's absolutely fascinating. Love the delivery style as well. Reminds me of Zero Ounctuation a bit who I love.
Seriously, great job.
this vid is so goated ngl
Respect from South Korea
never have i ever heard of chiv 2 drama but im invested
Was listening to it a first time and got halfway through at work, now that I'm off the clock I'll properly watch it in full with visuals to learn why having a fan-base like Deep Rock Galactic or Titanfall2 should be cherished while I draw either
(A) the Metroid Prime Hunters cast _or_
(B) an unreasonably tall Samurott woman
There was no reason for me to be that specific, but I was.
@@TravTravRA Your specificity is appreciated
Actually hold up you had my attention at ‘tall Samurott woman’ Godspeed you innovative bastard
Four and a half hours have passed, my thoughts?
_Jesus Christ--_
peak cinema..peak peak peak..
awesome video
Round 2 here we go!
intravenous 2 dropped, you gonna play it?
Probably will! Gotta lot on my plate rn but I was very kindly offered a chance to do a sponsored vid. Wanna make sure I would actually have something unique to say before agreeing to anything like that, though.
I like your words funny collie man!
I don't even know what's going on but I'm still gonna comment so this gets bumped keep doing you king
let in run in the background, hope you got some hours back
I'm almost 3 hours in. Wild stuff! You put more effort into 10 minutes of this than I have with anything in my entire life haha
I had no idea there was this dark underbelly of organized weirdos in chiv. I mean, besides the surface level cesspool of game chat. Hunting people down is lame af. I now remember someone saying they were being hunted and was in discord with the person hunting them/DDoSing whichever server they were in.
I have like 700 hours over the last year but I'm a TO player. I've actually come across a lot of these guys. I'm now remembering things people have said in chat that puts things in context.
Also, I was surprised to see my player name show up in this video...and not in a good light haha. This makes sense now when people were defending me as the "good" one. Maybe that was you, not sure if you play NA servers at all. EDIT: To clarify, someone has the same player name as me
Hey amazing video im not finished yet, but concerning krazd at 46:13 i think he left the game after saying that he had allegedly infiltrated ven and was about to tell everything, but tornbanner "silenced" him for 100$ wich sounds stupid but thats what i remember
This is almost certainly just a made up story. They have spread stories like this many times before and they have been provably false.
What actually happened is Deus Vult and Krazd had a falling out over various things and so Krazd is no longer part of that group. Though he used to hack as well.
Bro said we're gonna focus on jewels
@@Demonmatamon what does this mean I’m stupid
@@larubric Haha just teasing your accent when you say the word "duels." I'm an American so it sounds like "jewels" when you say it. Lol
oh lmao thats fair i sound dumb af sometimes with pronunciation
@@larubric lol not at all fam, this video is amazing lol. I'm halfway through
Uncensored hard r at 2:01:55, unlucky
lol thats so funny i censored the f slur but not the hard r, they're right next to each other. i will go blur this now, thank you for pointing it out
PLEASE PLAY HOTLINE MIAMI I AM BEGGING YOU BORDER COLLIE MAN
hell yeah time to watch it all over again
Holy shit, I'm honestly glad I spent my afternoon watching this video
It definitely was a trip knowing everything about a game and a community I knew nothing about
This shit sounds so fkin much like TF2, but without any sense of chill or self fkin awareness- it's like a lobby of sniper and spy mains. Amd also welcome to the banner of "vigilante"
Sucks more cuz I wanted at some point try out this game, idk how Mordhau is doing, tho I wouldn't be suprised if it also had a entitled asshat streak as it also requires skill to play.
Laurel and Hardy ☠️
1:59:22 Breaking Bad reference, jokes aside it pains me that a game I've found quite fun in my short time with it harbors such a toxic and aggressive community within it.
Its back pog
Amazing video
I feel like ive been here before
2:12:36 i am sorry to say that you missed to censor a slur here.
i already commented on the original upload so i don't have anything more interesting to say
Corrected! Honestly insane how I missed something so blatant. Thanks for pointing that out and supporting the video.
I will give you that internet clout back with watching it again.
It needs to be done!
HERE WE GO AGAIN
Loved the video, breath of fresh air truly
Thank you Mr Mystic, I appreciate all your feedback that you've left!
Just finished the whole video and wow. I'm kind of glad I don't play on PC. I had no idea this game could be THAT toxic. It's fine to be angry and even have rivalries but these scumbags going so far beyond that is disgusting. It's just a game man. The game doesn't even take itself that seriously.
This is a mic drop. Wp.
Oooh, a 4-hour video analysis on a game narrated by a British person! I'm sure that my ADHD riddled mind can handle this! 😃
Damn missed the face edition, guess I'll have to watch the faceless one 🥲
I’m sure it’ll still be a very brief watch
@@larubric well can't wait for your next vid, that'll be 8 hours long 🤣
i said it in the original video and i'll say it again, you are fuckin HANDSOME
yea imma watch it again just to spite hickster and teddo :)!
yknow what? im gonna put it on loop mode turn it off and go to sleep, since i have the premium version of this trashfire app it should work right?
mustafa is still playing too
I got banned from the Chivalry Subreddit for calling out that piece of shit. Fuck him and fuck Torn Banner for indulging these arseholes.
My goat
WE'RE SO BACK!!!!
Is it possible to learn this power of freetime?
if only we could get some dev support
Comment for the comment gods!
I never knew about this stuff. I mostly played on ps5 and somtimes hung out in some dueling maps and had a lot of fun like chilling and messing around. I never knew about the hacking stuff.
I remember when I first moved to Chiv 2 from Mordhau because I thought it was somehow *less* blatantly racist and homophobic.
Have you considered playing fighting games Rubric? Theres a similar back and forth to Chiv depending on the game, and often have similar rock/paper/scissors elements to how chiv uses strike/jab/kick, with wrong guesses being punished.
Hope you find another slashy slashy outlet soon
GGST is the only other fighting game I've touched. Honestly, I think I'll just take a break from most multiplayer games for a little lmao
Very good call with GGST. And completely understand. Been following your work since LISA, looking forwards to what you come up with next
my four hours werre well spent
gotta put this on before i sleep this time for the manz bc ill be dammed if they do him like that
What part of the video does it talk about hickster
Sorry, Part 3
Background noise time 🎉
well twist my arm and i guess i can watch again. ily
2:23:04
Wanted to point out that the hyperfocus on Muslims as a threat to the Western culture sphere is probably part of a larger problem of Western chauvinism coloring people's perspective of the world and their attitudes toward certain ethnicities and cultures. Recently Richard Dawkins, a British atheist, praised Christianity because the aesthetic of the English Protestant religion was much more pleasing to him than his idea of how Muslim culture operates. Richard Dawkins, a man who made a cultural name for himself by being one of the leading figures in the militant New Atheism, aligned himself with theocracy because of vibes (and racism). Anti-Muslim sentiment is not only rooted in racism, but has foundations in the belief that the Western European culture sphere, or Europe in general but that gets pretty spicy depending on who you ask, is inherently superior due to an overly simplistic and romanticized view of history.
Sometime being bad at the game is a Blessing 😂
Glad not to be competitive
chiv 2 lore
your discord link doesn't work , why is that ?
Had to take the Discord invite down for some time to avoid hate raids from the group I speak about, who are known to raid servers. I will reopen it some time in the future.
@@larubric understandable
Still good video. Shame it was sent to a farm out in the country because people were scared of the reverse golden rule. To be honest after thinking about this video more (The Original one) I've kind of lost a desire to play this game. Maybe my yearly survival game urge broke it, maybe this vid was the straw that broke the camels back, maybe the lack of updates in general made me unenthusiastic, but I just have little interest right now. Its a shame, as Chivalry 2 is the really the only game of its kind, wish this genre had more effort put into it.
Amazing video. I still enjoy this game but it does have flaws
great video haha
WE WATCHING THIS ONE LADS
I've already watched 2.5 hours of this even though I only played a tiny bit of chivalry 2 years ago and was never a part of the game's community...
lol
Comment for the comment god
furry
who told you this
Ancestral blood memory.
If anyone sees me fighting 10 vem members, be a lad and give me a hand hahaha
Rewatch time
1:58:50 “Oh no he’s hot!”
Furries everywhere 😬
Davebod please forgive me
@@larubric careful bucko, you don’t want to me to unleash the sigma wolf now 🐺
First?
Last
Mordhau but mid
As if Mordhau isn't mid to lower mid allready.
Gotta love dem fights that look like fights, eh?
Not good