How this Glitch KILLED Multiplayer on PC - Elden Ring
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Today we address the glitch that has had the worst effect on the multiplayer of Elden Ring, or any Souls game so far, as practically stops you from being able to play it in the first place.
CREDITS & SOURCES
Opening meme thanks to stream moment from sus guy Jerma985:
/ jerma985
EOS API Docs:
dev.epicgames.com/docs/servic...
Dark Souls 3 Clips from Funsline:
/ funsline
GamesRadar Interview w/ Miyazaki:
www.gamesradar.com/elden-ring...
Seamless Co-op Mod:
www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/m...
PATREON
/ amirahsouls
LINKS
Twitter - / amirahthethe
My Discord - / discord
Twitch - / amirahthethe
Elden Ring PvP Discord - / discord
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Average ER Online Experience
0:42 What is the 2 minute disconnect?
1:52 Why is this bug the worst?
2:42 What causes this glitch to happen?
4:52 How can they fix this?
5:30 WILL they fix this?
6:20 Getting the message across the right way...
8:50 Is it possible to fix it for yourself?
SONGS USED
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There are tons of glitches that wreck the online/pvp experience but this one seems to be the one to ruin most people's lives. PvP or not, From should be looking into this...
Bloodhound step is the worst glitch by far
@@lordboyardee4088 Not exactly. As bad as BHS is, some people might get hurt with the fix, no matter how smooth brained those people are. It's win win win win win for everyone if they fixes this glitch however, no one loses.
I had deleted my temporary files and that helped me. A lot. Idk how or why it was linked maybe you could look into that but before I deleted them I was DC 100% of the time and now it is significantly less
If BHS doesn’t get nerfed hard, expect invasions to die.
Some people enjoy playing invasions which I can understand, but running into the 300th BHS user and spending 10+ minutes chasing them across the world while they cower behind summons or BHS to another continent while the summons fight/chase you is NOT a fun experience.
People also need to bring up BHS into Estus - true combo BTW.
@@takeachance5881 some people might get hurt???
Amir's cool, level-headed critique of ER's problems is so refreshing. Considering both the state of the game and online discourse regarding multiplayer, this is basically ASMR content.
Yep, so many connection errors whether I'm dueling, co-oping or invading. Thought it was just the poop net but it's so inconsistent I felt like it was more of a bug.
1:06 Regarding hackers, I’ve recently encountered a bunch of improperly leveled hackers at SL18 that were invaders. They were max level (using Ranni’s Dark Moon with the Greatsword Colossal Sword and the Fingerprint Shield with no stamina reductions, taking 20 damage tops, and/or wearing Bull Goats, etc.) but still able to invade me at RL18 with a +1 unique weapon. Not everyone would be able to recognize this as hacking, and not all of them wore Bull Goat’s. Some would just use Spells that were impossible for them to use at that level.
At RL20 (max level to invade 18), the highest Int stat you can have is 30, and that’s without pumping points in any other stat. Ranni’s DM requires 68 intelligence to use. Even with the Twinsage Crown (+6), Intelligence Tear (+10), Marika’s Soreseal (+5), and Stargazer’s Heirloom (+5), that’s still 12 points short. Godrick’s Rune is inaccessible as an invader and that invader didn’t use the Grafted Blade Greatsword’s Ash for another +5. Only solution is a hacker, but not everyone can recognize that.
Hackers are just as common as DS3 when it first released, let’s wait a few years before we compare late DS3 to late Elden Ring in regards to hackers
Yeah it's basically entirely save editors like on PS4 now. Which is still bad, but def an upgrade from what they could do in DS3 on pc.
I also got one of these invaders recently. Checked his steam profile and he was part of the malcolm reynolds steam group lol. Some things will never change.
I've had someone use the auto revive that was in DS3. Killed them, they stood there for a second and just regained all their health. This game is going to have a lot of bs similar to DS3.
@@morgan2010nucka it is only the beginning, I’ll just say that. DS3 had fewer hackers on release, but a lot of them towards the end of its life cycle
@@Amir0 I mean, a lot of the tools don't work for the moment, same as modding tools. But I reckon that within a year, it'll be right back to where it was at the end of DS3s lifetime.
And chances are, EAC won't have even added a month verses what was already needed in the game, because it was a hasty addition to try and fix the ACE glitches without having to talk to the guys behind Blue Sentinel, and as such is much easier to bypass than something more thorough in the game engine itself.
Thank you for figuring this out, drove me nuts thinking it was something on my end. Checked all the weird disconnect clips I've saved, and sure enough every single one of them is after 2 minutes.
wonderfully explained, and makes total sense. a hard 50% of my co-op sessions ended like this, until i dropped multiplayer (save for the occasional invasion or duel) completely. From better get this fixed, otherwise we'll all be playing the DLCs with Seamless Coop mod, which would be a disservice to their own wonderful labour of love
Just wanna say in general: You're a rolemodel in therms of constructive, positive and friendly communication. It's always a pleasure watching your content cause it's straight to the point and well explained with good in-game samples and information you gain from the community and your experience as a passionated player. Keep the good vibes mister!
Thank god someone finally talked about this because I had no idea about the technical aspect of this issue lol
Great video once again Amir
9:53 This hurt. Imagine being in such a hot-blooded match where you are both almost death, you both go for a final gambit jumping attack, have a funny miss, and then dc
This happened so often when I was a Furled Finger for Malenia that I just added “Time-Bound” to my name.
Time-Bound Leit, by the way
Also Elden rings ability to cancel and lag my inputs getting me killed all the time is extraordinary. So many deaths from duels because my dark souls 3 muscle memory assumes that my inputs will work.
had similar in PvE
game 100% eats your inputs sometimes
Also just turning around locks you into an animation that you can't dodge out of.
@@Kurai_69420 Yeah it happens so much more than in ds3
Hope this blows up, I usually play the Souls games as solo survival adventures, but it just sucks when the odd time a buddy has time for coop is ruined for entirely technical reasons.
Dude, this is one of the most informative videos ever, and presented in such a tight concise way. Here is the issue, here is why it is happening (with more details for nerds if we^H^H^Hthey want it), and then a brief summary explaining what From needs to do to fix it. Nicely done.
Thank you for addressing this. As a PC only player, this glitch or whatever it is has completely killed any interest I once had in playing Elden Ring online. I don't want to purchase a second copy of the game just to participate in online play without being frustrated by random disconnects. Honestly, I have no qualms with the state of "balance" in ER's multiplayer right now, I don't even care about Bloodhound Step, not nearly as much as them fixing this. I can't even be mad about any of that stuff when I can barely even experience it for myself!
If From ever fixes this issue, and if they release any DLC or expansions for this game, I may consider trying PvP again whenever that content launches. Until then, I am over it. 3 months out from release, and the online is already dead to me.
I second that entirely. Sure the multiplayer wasn't as refined as DS3 but that's something that could come with time but there's nothing more frustrating then when you're in a really good fight and poof. Gone. I didn't even bother finishing the single-player this annoyed me so bad.
Just here to boost this in the Algorithm so it becomes well known that this is in fact a major problem.
Thanks again for the in-depth video Amir.
The game for me on PC has gone wild recently as some glitches started happening every single time like or weird states such as:
1. Not being able to summon duelist to my world after a connection error happens a single time.
2. Disconnects at random during coop, invasions or PVP in general.
3. Getting a desync of 10+ seconds from any multiplayer interaction while having decent internet speed.
4. Disconnects in singleplayer while online mode is on.
Oh my god so its a glitch??? I love the souls games, especially with friends but I've been feeling really bogged down playing it with them due to the horrible online issues, I thought it would just be inevitable I'd have to resummon them a million times per session. Thanks for finding this Amir, lets hope From take notice soon.
I think a large portion of the Elden Ring community could serve to take a more level-headed approach. There's a lot of vitriol being thrown around on all sides of the table and I think it's unwarranted, for the most part. I really hope these more calm and explanative looks at the issues within the game are seen by the right people, because I really do think Elden Ring has the guts to be a masterpiece. It just won't ever get there unless the proper attention is given to it.
I just met this 10 times in a row, guaranteed, in my malekith coop helping session.
The only multiplayer Fromsoftware game that worked perfectly was Armored Core splitscreen couch CO-OP.
A month since this video has released and it’s gotten even worse.
As of today (starting at midnight pacific time), every single online interaction I have had has ended in the 2 minute disconnect. Every. Single. One.
Doesn’t matter if I’m summoned by a random, summoned as a blue, invading randoms, or even password summoned by my brother in the same house sitting right next to me. None of that matters, they all end in the 2 minute disconnect every single time. Elden Ring online is literally unplayable like this. Even worse is I’m using a non-Twink Limgrave build so I’m running out of Bloody Finger items since they’re a limited supply in this part of the game. I was hopeful From would see this video and fix it, but it’s evident that’s not going to happen anytime soon. From hates PC as a platform, why would they ever bother to fix this bug?
One of those 2 video dislikes is definitely from that angry gamer at 6:55
@2:30 "There is no video that I could find that in the title - mentions that Elden Ring has a disconnection problem"
Glances at the title of this video
Thanks for making a video about this. Without having known what causes this, I've even replaced my router - ofc to no avail. Pls send this video and a polite message to the customer service. They need awareness for this and this video documents it very well.
Devs ignored that bug for so long that fan already made a multiplayer mod (Seamless coop) that does not have that issue...
Very, very well constructed video. I also like your emphasis on giving feedback in a helpful way.
I already made a ticket to Bandai/namco support about Elden Ring's multiplayer issues a few weeks ago, I'm updating it right now with the discoveries you made and a link to this video.
I've been doing a lot of coop with random peoples and always felt like there was a timer since the DCs often occurs after the cutscene between phase 1 and phase 2 of bosses ; glad to know it's been verified and it's a real thing.
Thank you for making this video to give the problem more exposure, and thank you to all the people that worked on finding out what was the issue, now we can hope for it to get fixed soon™ !
I really got tired of the connection error, and stopped playing multiplayer. So many things currently broken i just cannot get over it.
8:19 I agree with you on this one. Take your time with the dlc, Miyazaki and co. We can't have a good game when your mental health is declining. Take a break, you deserve it. You have inspired so many people to play your games and they have allowed you to thank them. God bless Fromsoft. God bless the soulsborne community. Let's all have a group hug.
Definitely good to tell people to be chill about the criticisms. I've seen some people get really nasty about this game...
My torch and pitchfork doesn't fit throught the plane's doorway
I have the closed captions on and would like to let you know you spelled it wrong in the title it's actually spelled Eldon Ring.
Nah seriously tho, great, thoughtful and considerate video Amir, love your stuff.
made me think I put an o instead of an e in the title lol
Great job on highlighting issues in a very focused way.
Always enjoy your videos, even such as this one, because of how on point and interesting they are.
Patch 1.05 said "Improved stability of online multiplayer"... Yet this issue still did not get fixed. :x
I'm pretty sure the lower amount of hackers in Elden Ring is NOT because of EAC, but due to the fact that the base game already has more than enough broken setups and glitches that if you want godmode, the game hands it to you on a silver platter. There's very little incentive to go through the effort of actually cheating with 3rd party tools when dual bleed Naginatas, Bloodhound Step (which is really similar to an i-frame DS3 cheat lol), Fingerprint Shield, the helmet swap glitch, perpetual casting glitch, chainsaw glitch, etc exist.
The disconnect issue has been low key but it has hurt my online play worse than any amount of ROB or even bloodhound step does.
that 2min glitch was so prominent that my friends and i started just saying "oh- my free trial ended" whenever it would happen
Commenting both for the algorithm and to say thank you for your contributions to the community.
You are a great part of the content creators that talk about FromSoftware games.
I am so SO so glad you’ve made a video on this. As soon as I found out most EAC bypasses involved DCing before the 2 minute scan, I had a feeling that there was an issue involving the implementation of EAC in ER. And like you so literally NOBODY is talking about this and I would assume as well the developers already know about it.
But yeah, as an exclusively PC player this has been a significant hinderance to playing the game and making content for it.
YOU! Yes, you RUclips comment reader. Like this video. This needs as much attention as possible.
Almost every time I play ER on PC, I get booted back to the main menu due to connectivity issues. I don't invade but it happens constantly which means I have to play offline and miss out on bloodstains and messages
Really? What is the error message? Does it say you were penalized for disconnecting to much?
@@Amir0 "The connection to the ELDEN RING game server was lost. Returning to title menu"
I get that once or twice before getting the message "Network status check failed" and then it forces me into offline mode. Other online games work fine so I'm not convinced it's my internet connection
@@Box-of-hats Yeah I'm not sure, sounds like some specific issue making you have trouble with ER's matchmaking server, maybe you didn't allow it on the firewall?
2 months later this still happens
Thanks the man who made the seamless coop mod. That is how multiplayer should work on ER
I am sadly well aware of this god forsaken bug and it has killed any desire to coop or invade.
This whole time I thought Maliketh's phase transition had a 50% chance to kick one of the phantoms, it might have actually been this. (It still has a 100% chance to kill the music for phantoms)
Thank you for making this video. I've had so very many of these random disconnects despite doing everything under the sun to troubleshoot. Even good ol' Bandai just told me to Port Forward (which was already done).
Considering how extremely common these disconnects are, I'm surprised there is not a lot more controversy around this issue.
great video absolutely sweet gameplay as well love the fan dagger/curved sword
This has happened when i play with my fiancée and i thought maybe it was an issue with us being on the same network but we have solid connection both hardwired but it would happen when i played with other friends as well i didn't realize this was happening to everyone.
solid work and commentary as always
Between this bug and invading people literally walking into the boss fog, patch 1.0.6's new feature of invading anywhere essentially might as well not exist.
Such a cool video Amir, Thank you 👍🏻
Thank you for doing what you do:)
Between glitches like this and the upcoming co-op mod, I definitely feel like multiplayer on regular channels on PC is become even more of a ghost town that it already is. PvP especially.
They really dropped the ball regarding PvP. No solo invasions, no wex dust type mod, even if they had of made it so invading in an area invades all the grace sites in that zone. Plus the seamless co-op mod. After looking forward to ER PvP for years and years it's really disappointing to see how it's turned out
honestly thank you for the segment about getting the message across the right way. so many people need to keep in mind basic decency when they make a complaint.
I would imagine the best way to report these issues is to report to Bandai Namco as it is likely that Fromsoft is not able to directly communicate with the English speaking community without Bandai acting as a representative, it is also how I and many other people reported estus cancel in the closed network test which later got fixed.
You are amazing amir. I love your vids.
thank you for brining light on this i've definitely had issues but also sweet jar cannon invades bro
And this isn't all the time, right? Just sometimes? Because, otherwise, that implies that my friends and I have beaten a large amount of bosses in under two minutes, which, I find difficult to believe it
Yes, it's inconsistent. The same people I dc'd 2 minutes after joining in some of those clips I was able to be resummoned to and play for more than 2 minutes.
As someone who plays Co-Op religiously, it's inexcusable that this glitch who makes multiplayer nearly unplayable is STILL not fixed four months after release. This singlehandedly drops my personal rating of Elden Ring from 9/10 to 8.5 or 8. FromSoft literally owes *EACH* of my four characters hundreds of thousands of runes with the sheer amount of times we've gotten close to beating a boss easily only for disconnections to happen. Even when I didn't get disconnected, it was sometimes a fellow phantom that would get hit around two minutes in. Combined with the instant disconnection issue that was especially prevalent months ago, it's safe to say over half of my total multiplayer sessions had disconnection issues.
i'll be honest, i genuinely never knew this existed until seeing this video. i use multiplayer quite a lot but ive never seen that happen before
Patch 1.05 bug still exists.
"There is literally no videos I could find that *in the title* mention that Elden Ring has a disconnect problem..."
Well, your title doesn't actually use those words, either...
EDIT: he edited the title of the video. Mission accomplished.
Subscribed. Your videos are good. Thanks for shining light on this crap, and doing it so well.
Thanks
6:25 bare mininum is the new stanima
I really hope this spreads and word can reach From about this issue
i was literally unable to help my friend fight malenia because without fail i'd get disconnected...at least now i have an explanation for why it happens
I remember when "Dark Spirit Your Mom" invaded me and a few new friends at lothric castle, the second bonfire after the dragon and the first lothric knight you meet. We went down the stairs, hopped across the rooftops to the first pus of man near to the titanite lizard and then it happened.
"Invaded by Dark Spirit Your Mom".. We figured oh, this might be a funny dude in fat armor maybe. Suddenly, out of the sky so many bolts of lightning erupted I genuinely was gobsmacked. All of us just spontaneously exploded into electricity and died. This proceded to happen three times in a row before he seemingly got bored.
What an incredible video, So much detail and research about an unrecognised issue plaguing the PvP scene.... This glitch among with the crashes is a major reason why I stopped playing. And this is speaking as someone who had 1000h+ hours in ds3
Love ur content. What a Chad!
Important video. Thanks!
was not expecting to see jerma lmao
This is the reason I stopped playing Elden Ring. I got 200 hours in 3 weeks when the game released and after enough of these disconnects I haven't touched it since. I always played all Fromsoftware games multiplayer for months after release but I can't deal with this one.
Banger vid
It is so good that someone had investigated this problem so deeply.
Good content as always coming from Amir.
oml thats what it is... I thought it was my internet
There is something odd that I still can't explain. Does it depend on my files/setup in any possible way? I'm used to play with a friend and this bug happened multiple times, but only when I was the phantom and I got disconnected. This never happened to my friend, neither as host or as phantom.
Elden ring cbt tuturial when
I keep not being able to connect to multiplayer at all, I do not understand why and at first I thought it was because I had been banned from multiplayer for some reason but I realised that wasn't the case, however, I can only wait and see if that improves at all
i wonder if this is also the reason my game crashes when i get summoned for pvp, as in i'll be doing duels, but randomly i get the message of being summoned as an adversary and then...crash
The workaround I found for this issue was making sure that easy anti cheat runs as admin. Go to C:\Program Files\EasyAntiCheat_EOS, right click the application and select properties, then under 'Compatibility' make sure that the box for 'run this program as an administrator ' is checked.
No promises but it worked for me, here's hoping fromsoft get their shit together and fix this soon
I did this too, but the source where I read this from said that I also needed to run steam as an admin (so I did).
I get muuuuuch less disconnections now
Crazy I joined right when it ended but thanks to those who told me right quick.
Strong Video
It happens too in playstation but only 1 weeks after that it never happen again except there is bug where invaders kill 2 cooperator and it's disconnected from host, weird hah
Fr still waiting on this. This happens so often for me and i know its not my hardware or network.
Just tried getting summoned a few times with the new 1.05 patch, hoping this was fixed... got a 2mn disconnect on my 3rd attempt :(
Ppl will say this is a slap in the face but it’s really a 360 somersault to your face when your already down
Just commenting to help with the algorithm. Hopefully someone at Fromsoft sees this vid.
bump for the algorithm
Thank you so much for going into detail on this. Although, the biggest news for me is just the fact that the Seamless Co-op mod exists. It sounds like a total gamechanger and I can't wait to try it out.
amir in the jerma stream whats he gonna do
im glad to have this confirmed after my search for help with it just about everywhere led to responses of "get better internet, scrub" because this community is in fact famous for its kindness and understanding. cant wait till they fix it so i can actually play the game through with my buddy
2:15 🤣 my sides... I'm dying
Player movement question: How they hell did you jump backwards at 1:40? Can you explain this please i've been trying to copy it but I cant get my hands to do it lmao @Amir
Great job !!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Solution: Seamless co-op mod
You can't expect FROM to give a damn, they already got your money...
First souls game ive played where i never got invaded. And i bought the game the first week it was out.
I'm pretty sure that i only get kicked when a buff runs out, since i always rebuff myself i stay till end. or dont buff at all, but most hosts will give u golden vow and u need to keepit up
that happened multiple times when i was fighting malenia and i thought that her second phase did this.
2:43
AMIR 2STOC :>
It all started from people who didn't know a thing about DS3 hackers that started fear mongering everyone, even when half of the people playing DS3 had a fan anticheat...
i always saw people get diconnected after like 2 minutes. it's hella crazy that the glitch still around since release.
Comment for algorithm. Great work 👍🏻