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I would be going for this if I hadnt got a X670E Asus Crosshair hero and paid a lot more for it getting close to 2 years ago now the Gigabyte looks like a better price
Hi, sorry to bother you, may I ask for help about page 25-26 of the manual talking about the need to "When using a single-sided M.2 SSD, first attach the bundled M.2 thermal pad to the pre-installed thermal pad on the M.2 connector before installing the M.2 SSD" My new new Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7 looks just like yours but I don't understand what this "bundled M.2 thermal pad" is: I don't have one in the packaging of the motherboard... should it be expected to come with all NVME SSDs? I know my new SSD (Samsung 990pro 4TB, it's a single-sided form factor) doesn't have one and I don't understand whether I can install it properly or not. I'm baffled. I don't know what to do. Should I buy some thermal pads and install them? Did you encounter a similar issue?
Also page 26 mentions some thick and thin rubber pads: those absolutely seem proprietary and weren't bundled in my packaging, which was new. I tried contacting AORUS Gigabyte assistance because I am at a loss here... I don't even know what specific thickness I need to reach if I want to use thermal pads from other producers...
Thanks for taking the time to remove all the heatsinks and stuff off the motherboard. Its good to see it without all the bits that hide the actual board.
you just got to love this channel, clear, concise, simple to understand, key information only, good pros and cons, this video just made my next motherboard choice simple., as always, THANK YOU
Just found the channel, what a refreshing change to the usual style of presentation. This looks like a great motherboard for the price. I didn't expect to be able to afford such a well featured board.
I used to always get Asus and they were in the 200-300 range, now they are like 500-800 range. Its stupid. This one is like 400 here and has more ports/options/heatsinks.
After having a Dead Strix 870E mobo (code 0d, dead mobo) and broken TUF board delivered, I went with this motherboard. Easiest build yet, it just worked! 9900x, 64GB of T-Create 6000MT's, and 4080 Super. It has been a very strong board as I have pushed it on stress tests and found a split second it bounced up to 5.9Ghz in a Cinebench 23 test. Thanks for your review to get this one out there. GREAT BOARD.
be carefull, you cant use 2 or more PCIE 5.0 ssds on x870e boards expect 2 of them, without limiting your GPU x16 slot lane down to x8 for most x870 & x870e boards. cheers.
@@teanymonster5227 Thank you! I will get one of them out of the other 5.0 slot. Was wondering why I have 8x only, i do have 2 NVME in 5.0 slots. Thanks again.
@@snowbeast7216 NICE! great to hear that someone actually "fixed" this, i find it quite unpleasent how this isnt advatised more but great to hear that you are aware now too
@@snowbeast7216 Hi, sorry to bother you, may I ask you about the NVME in this mobo? Manuals from different revisions state completely conflicting version of either absolutely needing some additional thermal pads and rubber pads that should be bundled with the motherboad (mine didn't have them bundled!) in order to mount single-sided NVMEs or don't mention anything at all so it's not clear how to install NVMEs in either the main slot or the additional ones (do the main slot REQUIRE an additional thermal pad for single sided NVME as one manual states? do the additional slots REQUIRE thermal rubber pads -thick ones and thin ones- as stated in one of the manuals?) May I ask you how you solve this issue? Are your NVME temperatures ok? Is the NVME making proper contact with the cooling system?
@@oump7368 not yet. Well, I enabled the 8000 MT/s EXPO profile on my RAM and it did just work. Didn't make any difference to MSFS 2024 frame rate, though. I suspect there is more fun to be had tweaking when I get time. (Btw I have a video of my build on my channel)
As a Canadian, I always appreciate the understated British humour. In this case you had me with the wi-fi antenna: "...It also unplugs." Spot on. Edit: The bottom slot on the 870E is also Gen 3 x4 not Gen 3 x2 (thank the second chipset). As well, yes, PCIe slots are useful for U.2 drive adapter expansion cards, properly high-speed network cards, a multitude of pro A/V cards, etc., etc. It's actually brutal ATX boards by most manufacturers have lost PCIe slots (Gigabyte being a notable exception). If you don't like the slots get a more affordable mATX board perhaps?
There's a lot of comparisons to the ASRock Nova in the comments. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having full PCIe 5.0 x16, but only one M.2 connected directly to the CPU in the case of the Nova. Or three M.2 connected to the CPU directly with this board, and the PCIe 5.0 running at x8 if more than one is used. No GPU planned is using full PCIe 5.0 x16, and this board still has an additional M.2 on the chipset, if you want to run full x16 and have two M.2. The Nova is not better by default, this is a Chipset / CPU lane limitation either way.
@vqa33 M.2 to CPU is less latency. More PCB layers is usually only to prevent signal interference, which depends on efficiency of trace routing. ASRock may have needed 8 or simple added for "extreme" OC of memory, which most do not do. All boards share lanes between PCIe and storage. Here it's the same, but with the Gigabyte board you have the option to have an additional 2 M.2 directly to the CPU, the ASRock does not.
Thank you so much for this. I like your presentation style a lot. Even though it seems to be hard to actually acquire at the moment, i decided to... Snatch one for my 9900x build.
for all high end OC boards , wish they gave : - ram fan cooling bracket for those high end OC settings plus small size 10mm thick fans like the noctua ones or some way to cool the ram without interference with cpu heatsink - longer wifi antennas - dual bios - cmos reset switch - cpu contact frame for better thermals and protection of the cpu bending issue + a proper hex torque wrench for that ilm frame screws - rgb remote control - sophisticated 12V and 5V sata powered fan hub with 10 ports each for PWM and rgb - m.2 expansion card - include a bunch of PWM extension cables - PTM 7950 thermal pad - two ps2 ports for no frills connectivity for mouse+kb while in bios - marking on the usb headers which have direct connectivity lanes to cpu for that low latency IO devices like mouse + kb for gaming - some replica of asus nitro path
- The effin PROPRIETARY SIZE "Bundled Thermal Pad" needed for single sided NVME as per the manual instructions. - The effin PROPRIETARY SIZE "Bundled Thin Rubber Pads" and "Bundled Thick Rubber Pads" that manual instructs you to use for additional NVMEs...
@@zlibz4582 I contacted them but they're not replying on this issue, this is infuriating and I'm considering just asking for a full refund at this point.
Excellent review really enjoyed it. I actually purchased the same motherboard prior to watching this video. Funny I also purchased the G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 Royal Neo in CL28 6000 32GB (2x16GB). My Main reason to purchase this board was price, features and a PCIe slot to handle a 10GbE Network card (4x Slot Gen 3/4). This was one of a few motherboards that had a x4 PCIe slot away from the GPU slot with enough bandwidth for the 10GbE expansion card. Today's GPUs bury most of the additional x1 to x16 expansion slots. Motherboards with x16/x8/x4 or x16/x8 are more expensive. Gigabyte Elite WiFi7 does share bandwidth between the PCIe 5.0 x16 GPU slot and 2 extra NVMe Gen5 slots which is the best comprise of PCIe lanes. I can't complain about a PCIe 5.0 GPU slot running at x8 with today's GPU's. I also chose The NZXT C1000 power supply and Ryzen 9800X3D CPU to be placed into a Montech King 95 Pro case.
@@Jupex Yes, all put together, running stable and looks great. I did end up buying a 90-deg 24-pin and front panel USB connecter. Those connectors help turn the cables better to the back of the board. I have a rear, top mounted power supply. Having the same controller for RRB for the GPU and case fans is nice, less apps to run for RGB. I wish I didn't use the NZXT included case fans and controller. I don't like having another app to run the case installed fans. And, I have Corsair memory which needs iCue for the RGB, that sucks too. I am using the Gigabyte and AMD software for moderate overclocking, seems stable so far.
Finally a proper look at this motherboard!! (I bought it, I'm waiting for delivery and I will be building a set on it!) - after over 5 years, it's time to say goodbye to the z390 generation and the Intel i7 9700k (and Intel as such for now ;-D - you know why ;-D) - and for me, compared to my motherboard, even removing these heatsinks (and the release of the graphics card without a sore finger or the risk of scratching the motherboard with a screwdriver to get to the lock) and plugging in the drives is insane!
Just got the board delivered today.. Nice to get a review on the same day. One of the reason for purchase was because of the pcie slots though, since I want to put a 10gig nic in it. So yes there is a use case for those x4(x16) slots ;). Now just waiting for 9800x3d to be released.
Haven't yet felt the need to jump to AM5 yet. Still happy on AM4, but I'm very happy with Gigabyte's stuff. I normally go for MSI boards but in wanting to do an Intel build (as I hadn't done one for years) I was actually very impressed with the Z790 Aorus Elite for feature set - just recently added the Thunderbolt 4 card and it works a charm. If and when I do go for AM5 I will definitely go for the X3D and this board.
keep in mind that lane sharing of the GPUs x16 slot lane PCIE 5.0 is shared when using multiple PCIE 5.0 ssds. Quote from the speficications page - " The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU connectors share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot." just get a x670e board if you dont need the higher lan spped / wifi 7 / usb 4.0 standard. everything else is pretty much the same or better on the x670e boards in my opinion. cheers
@@christopherramsay5517 but its asrock if you dont want that brand its sad, but i agree the nova is pretty nice on paper, cant talk about it further as i didnt use it before only read about it. cheers
Thanks Leo, was a good video. learned a good bit about the platform too. Who on earth thought that SNATCH was a good name for anything in the tech sector? hilarious
for anyone wondering, the VRMs on this mobo do get hotter than average if room temps are higher than normal, where i live im usually at 28c, sometimes reaching 32c, and i've seen the VRMs get up to 68c nearing 70c, so make sure you have decent air flow in your case.
@@joshua8590 looks very good, i have a Corsair 4000D myself, i think that case does come with all the fans you see on it, so just make sure they are an out take and it should be pretty cool in there.
@ tbh i been doing research on trying to connect 9 fans together which im having trouble on so i might go with the montech king 95 pro for my first build
I've had this board for 3 weeks and the only little complaint I have is the lane sharing and no clear cmos on the back. I've done some research, and it doesn't look like lowering the GPU bandwidth hurts too much if even at all for gaming. Looks like in most cases you might lose a couple of FPS which probably won't be noticeable. That being said, I have 3 of the M2 slots populated and everything has been smooth. 2 x gen 4 2tb and 1 4tb gen4 crucial.
I'm a big fan of these X870/870E Gigabyte boards overall, Had great success with X570 Aorus Master board and B650i using right now for 7950X-3D mini itx. The other X870E board that interest me for the quality and feature set is the ASUS ProArt board.
The 2 pci-e slots may be basic but Gigabyte have at least fitted them, me I have a 10gbe and a capture card and it's extremely frustrating finding most motherboards have all their lanes allocated to m.2 slots.
This board might even be considered budget by some, especially when the MSI Godlike and ASUS Maximus are priced between £700+. - £1300. Crazy prices in 2024
It’s nice they have added some vents into the rear Io panel but really that whole area needs a bit of a redesign. It’s very busy and congested with all those ports shoved into it nowadays.
Micro Center is offering a bundle w/ the 7950x3d, I've been wondering if it's worth pulling the trigger. I don't like how the PCIe x16 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots though, but I've read that supposedly it won't affect GPU performance much, but not sure what the reality is.
I bought that bundle a few weeks ago and haven't opened it yet. Trying to see if I should take it back based on the reviews of the 9800x3D. If that chip isn't much faster than the 7950x3D I'll keep it and start building.
@@Kwincy5 Careful, you may not be able to bring it back if it's been 15 days since you purchased, I believe I was told return policy for cpu and mobo is 15 days.
Got a question re the USB4. The specs indicate "2 x USB4® USB Type-C® ports, supporting USB4 and DisplayPort video outputs and a maximum resolution of 3840x2160@240 Hz" Does that mean that one has to use a USB-C to DP adapter and a DP monitor rather than a USBC to HDMI adapter and a HDMI monitor??
I almost regret having just bought the MSI Carbon, but not quite. I may have a use for the PCIe x4 slot: a Blackmagic Decklink card. That aside there's not much in it.
Does USB4 works with thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces for studio? Cannot find any reliable data on internet. X870e does not have TB header on motherboard either like x670 had... Thanks for answering.
I believe you forgot to mention that the CPU socket has a reinforced backing plate, as well as the graphics card slot, I have this board and along with the pushbutton pcie release and the tool free drive access, with a 7900 XTX I really appreciate the extra rigidity of the reinforced slot. I've tortured this board for a month or so and its stable as a rock.... I was gonna say the software wasn't up to date but while watching this video I see there is a new bios, control center and several other drivers I guess I'll update it as I don't see AI snatch anywhere hehe, it also has several spots on board including in back with rgb built into it...... Super Solid MB imho for the price!
@KitGuruTech i can confirm the new bios did then trigger gigabyte control center to update all drivers and install AI Snatch, it's working fluid n fast DDR5 6000 at EXPO 1 CL30...7900xtx and 9700x ( 7800x3d sold out), primary cached gen 5 system drive and backups in 2 and 4....all TB....working a mint !!! For the price I don't think I could have chose better, I'll be using the USB 4 eventually!
I see that these motherboards say they support 5.1 and 7.1 audio, but the motherboard only has a Line Out and a Mic 3.5 jack in the back. How is the multi channel audio accessed?
you are the first person to put something up about this board that tells me what i need to know. Thank you! It should do well with a 9700x or a future 9800x3d and a ton of m.2 storage. I am curious however. For its aesthetics does it have rgb under the top IO cover where is says Aorus?
I have a quick question about the frequency of the 9700X, that you are using here. You show it being at 5.0 GHz, but from what I understand it does boost closer to 5.4 GHz on average. Same with the 14700K being at 5.1. Are you using less frequency in these tests. Or did I miss something in the video?!.
Thanks for a great review! I am thinking of getting this motherboard or its "Pro" variant, as it has a bit better VRMs. The thing I don't really like is that if you use any of those Gen 5 m.2 slots, the primary slot drops down to x8 mode. That's plenty of bandwidth for the majority of graphics cards nowadays, especially the new ones that are about to come out, but it's something to keep in mind as a buyer. Again, thanks for a great review!
I am planing to get a 5090 next year so that's actually a bit of a concern, are you saying if I ran a PCI 5 m.2 my 5090 has it's bandwidth slashed in half?
@@deloford All gigabyte motherboards with x870e chipset function this way (yes, even the Master), but this only applies to two m.2 5.0 slots beneath the pcie x16 slot. Using the one above it will not affect the bandwidth. When it came to current generation boards and GPUs on pcie gen 4, a 4090 saw almost no bottleneck when used in slots running in x8 mode. Since pcie gen 5 is double the bandwidth of gen 4, I doubt it will see any bottleneck when the primary slot is running in x8 mode. I hope this helps.
This is what I'm planning to use with a 9800X3D. Do I HAVE to update the BIOS before booting into windows? (I've got enough memory sticks round here that I'm losing track of as it is :P )
@@KitGuruTech for what most of these boards cost especially the $500 to 1K+ range, its a slap in the face not to fill every space in that small i/o panel area with ANYTHING. squeeze a couple of usb2's in there. just don't insult me with empty space for my hundreds of fiats where for pennies more they could at least give the appearance of value. THATS what they missed.
Can anyone explain the differences between the x870e Aorus Elite WiFi 7 and the x870e Aorus Pro? The Pro costs an additional £30-40 and I can't figure out what that extra cash buys.
@@KitGuruTech Will that make much of a difference to the average user? VRM 'science' doesnt make a lot of sennse to me, no one really explains what specific VRMs will help - processors or voltages etc.
Google AMD X870/X870E Roundup, 21 Boards Tested and go to the end. There is a table. More fan headers, 1 more USB, better VRM and full WIFI 7 as noted above. Oddly the Pro did worse in RAM and CPU frequency testing.
I am wondering about the In Out on the back where we use to have jacks for Sound, which seems to have changed, where there use to be different colored jacks for 5.1 audio, what is going on that these are now missing from the backs of many of the Mother boards.. I noticed that the asus Tuf board still has them, but most boards have gone away, what is the deal if you could let me know.. and or is there an audio interface which will allow someone to plug in their 5.1 jacks into it..
Can someone explain in TECHNICAL TERMS The differences between Gigabyte X870E Aorus PRO and Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE The price of the first one is 80-90€ for what exactly
How many M.2 SSD Nvme can fit in this motherboard without dropping down the GPS from 16 to 8, also can I use Gen 4 M.2 SSD in all the slots instead of Gen 5 as the Gen 4 would be cheaper to use.
I am not liking the idea of the proprietary plugin Wi-Fi antenna. I replaced my stock one with one that was more stable than the cheap one that came with the motherboard and kept falling over. I was then also surprised by the stronger signal. This would only work for me if that plug could be adapted to another antenna.
Hi! I bought the same motherboard. I was wondering where among the M.2 slots does 2280 ssd works? And also the wifi doesn't work even i downloaded driver for it. Tysm!!!
How viable is the large heat sink for cooling two Gen5 NVMEs and one Gen4? I've seen that Gen5 can run really hot so I am concerned if the single heat spreader works for multiple drives.
I went with the aorus pro ice x870e because it's by far the best looking white board on the market. And I'm not dumb enough to think 5.0 8x is really going to drop performance by more than 10-15 frames even on a 5090 if I want a few more SSD's.
Yeah, but you can put one PCIe Gen 5 in that gets lanes from the CPU and one Gen 4 that gets its lanes from the chipset and you won't hit the top PCIe slot - so you'll still get the full x16 for your graphics card. This is an issue for all the X870e motherboards, not just Gigabyte.
@@CRF-2013 I meant the sharing of the PCIe16 5.0 lanes with M.2 SSD. True, not only Gigabyte shares PCIe lanes when M.2 SSD is installed. As far as I know the ASRock X870E Taichi ( and the lite one) has one M.2 which gets 4 lanes PCIe 5.0 without sharing lanes from the PCIe 16 Graphicscard slot. But then again 8 lanes of the PCIe_1 (16 gen 5.0) slot will be shared once the PCIe_2 gets occupied as well. As far as I know now only ASRock Taichi boards do not share PCIE_1 5.0 lanes with PCIE M.2 SSD.
@@Boofatcha Relatively a bad thing. But PCIe 5.0- will be the next standard, so the graphic cards developers will also be on the 5.0 PCIe platform. I ended up buying an ASRock Taichi X870E motherboard. The first M.2 SSD is PCIe 5.0 without sharing any of the 16 lanes of the PCIe_1 5.0. As far as i know none of the ASRock X870E motherboards share lanes of the5.0 PCIe_1 x16. This chipset and CPU of the Taichi have 24 5.0 PCIe lanes, PCIe_1 x16 for the graphics card, which leaves 8 5.0 PCIe lanes to share. Four of them go to the M.2_1 drive the other four to USB 4.0, I believe. Sharing PCIe 5.0 lanes is a waste of PCIe lanes as far as speed is concerned. The M.2_1 drive on my MB is really 'blazing fast'. Because it doesn't share lanes with the 5.0 PCIe_1 x16 (graphic card slot). Goodluck with your queeste.
I just don't like the GPU lane sharing and having a lot of USB 2.0 for a "new and improved" MB. I feel that it is better to buy a good x670e and just update/flash bios or just buy the AsRock x870e Nova if it is not out of stock (currently out of stock).
I was looking at the ASROCK X870 Nova - I wish Leo would look at some ASROCK boards, they are such good value. I just dont know if their bioses are any good and if they are stable.
there are bunch of stuff that doesn't require huge speed and without any issue on USB 2.0 such as peripherals. It is better to have such stuff for those things.
I just bought the msi 870 tomahawk. It's unopened. Newegg has this gigabyte board with a set of corsair 6400 ram for 320$ which board would you prefer?
And yet, usualy 670 series frim Gigabyte had problems with bios and ddr stability. Does the new 870 series suffers the same? This is the only question that deserves an answer.
Gigabyte Aorus Elite was a mistake to buy for my opinion. After less than 5 days the mobo couldn't boot and I was flooded by DRAM light error and multiple bios post codes. The board couldn't get fixed with clear cmos different bios updates different RAMs and removed hard disks. All I got were BSoD and an RMA that unfortunately didn't got because I was at 15 days since bought. The motherboard is now at the offices of Gigabyte and is getting checked. Their update was that I have to wait since February 21st to get my mobo back.
can't get over the gigabyte bios though, different opinion with you on that. The 2 PCIe slots, those are quite useful, for a NIC in the x4 pci4 slot, and a sound card in the other.
Good review Leo - price point seems good, but last Gigabyte board I had was very poor, had a lot of hard locks. sent it back and got a ROG board, much better
I was looking at the MSI X870 Tomahawk, which has 5G LAN. I only plan to use 2x m.2 4.0 SSDs, so there should be no lane problems. But I didn’t know mainboards would perform differently in benchmarks. How do the Gigabyte compare to the MSI? The price is very similar.
Good question. It is a conventional HDMI for the integrated graphics and the idea is you can power a screen inside your PC case, most likely in the front or side panel. If you are using a secondary external display you would use the regular output on the back panel. Leo
This really is a great board - very well balanced and not compromised - just a small accessory pack with it. Are those VRMs any good ? how are they rated? I dont understand that side of things very well.
I've been thinking about just getting a 670e for my next build, but the easy installation features for m.2s and the release button for the graphics card may push me the other way. I tend to slowly upgrade my systems over time so those things add value. The BIOS looks really good. I can take or leave the usb4 or wifi 7 though.
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I would be going for this if I hadnt got a X670E Asus Crosshair hero and paid a lot more for it getting close to 2 years ago now the Gigabyte looks like a better price
what is differen between this and x870e pro?
Hi, sorry to bother you, may I ask for help about page 25-26 of the manual talking about the need to
"When using a single-sided M.2 SSD, first attach the bundled M.2 thermal pad to the pre-installed thermal pad on the M.2 connector before installing the M.2 SSD"
My new new Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7 looks just like yours but I don't understand what this "bundled M.2 thermal pad" is: I don't have one in the packaging of the motherboard... should it be expected to come with all NVME SSDs?
I know my new SSD (Samsung 990pro 4TB, it's a single-sided form factor) doesn't have one and I don't understand whether I can install it properly or not. I'm baffled. I don't know what to do. Should I buy some thermal pads and install them? Did you encounter a similar issue?
Also page 26 mentions some thick and thin rubber pads: those absolutely seem proprietary and weren't bundled in my packaging, which was new. I tried contacting AORUS Gigabyte assistance because I am at a loss here... I don't even know what specific thickness I need to reach if I want to use thermal pads from other producers...
I notice your package lacked those items too.
Did you find any issue with temperatures while testing your nvme? Was it single sided or double sided?
Thanks for taking the time to remove all the heatsinks and stuff off the motherboard. Its good to see it without all the bits that hide the actual board.
no problem !
I agree I like seeing them stripped down and naked.
@@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 😂
@@KitGuruTech It was exactly what i wanted to see.
you just got to love this channel, clear, concise, simple to understand, key information only, good pros and cons, this video just made my next motherboard choice simple., as always, THANK YOU
Thanks, appreciate it and glad we could help!
Plus a slight dash of dry English humour.😉
I have the X670 version and it's still going strong. Keep up the great work you guys and stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
Just found the channel, what a refreshing change to the usual style of presentation. This looks like a great motherboard for the price. I didn't expect to be able to afford such a well featured board.
Much appreciated!
Its well kitted out. I cant get over how expensive motherboards have gotten in the last year, its madness
Sadly almost everything is expensive this year.
@@gareos9bf This, want more then 4 SATA and 6 USB-A? That will be 500€ please.
I used to always get Asus and they were in the 200-300 range, now they are like 500-800 range. Its stupid. This one is like 400 here and has more ports/options/heatsinks.
@@melkert81 and if you don't need the -E, it's only $275 at the moment. That would be about £220. Really good compared to the competition.
After having a Dead Strix 870E mobo (code 0d, dead mobo) and broken TUF board delivered, I went with this motherboard. Easiest build yet, it just worked! 9900x, 64GB of T-Create 6000MT's, and 4080 Super. It has been a very strong board as I have pushed it on stress tests and found a split second it bounced up to 5.9Ghz in a Cinebench 23 test. Thanks for your review to get this one out there. GREAT BOARD.
be carefull, you cant use 2 or more PCIE 5.0 ssds on x870e boards expect 2 of them, without limiting your GPU x16 slot lane down to x8 for most x870 & x870e boards. cheers.
@@teanymonster5227 Thank you! I will get one of them out of the other 5.0 slot. Was wondering why I have 8x only, i do have 2 NVME in 5.0 slots. Thanks again.
@@snowbeast7216 NICE! great to hear that someone actually "fixed" this, i find it quite unpleasent how this isnt advatised more but great to hear that you are aware now too
@@snowbeast7216 Hi, sorry to bother you, may I ask you about the NVME in this mobo?
Manuals from different revisions state completely conflicting version of either absolutely needing some additional thermal pads and rubber pads that should be bundled with the motherboad (mine didn't have them bundled!) in order to mount single-sided NVMEs or don't mention anything at all so it's not clear how to install NVMEs in either the main slot or the additional ones (do the main slot REQUIRE an additional thermal pad for single sided NVME as one manual states? do the additional slots REQUIRE thermal rubber pads -thick ones and thin ones- as stated in one of the manuals?)
May I ask you how you solve this issue? Are your NVME temperatures ok? Is the NVME making proper contact with the cooling system?
at least this time there was no need to flash bios for it to work nor any windows problems, happy times for Leo
Amazing that £300 now is almost seen as a budget board. How things have changed
By weight maybe things are ok. I just got an MSI Carbon and it weighs a ton compared to my old X470 board 🤪
Makes it even more logical to buy last gen
@@RobFisherUK have you done any overclocking with that board? i’m considering getting on for mtself
@@oump7368 not yet. Well, I enabled the 8000 MT/s EXPO profile on my RAM and it did just work. Didn't make any difference to MSFS 2024 frame rate, though. I suspect there is more fun to be had tweaking when I get time. (Btw I have a video of my build on my channel)
£290 is very good in todays market. same price as a box of kelloggs crunchy nut cornflakes in tesco this week
😂Cereal for dinner - kellogs
Agreed ...... and the VRMs on Crunchy Nut Cornflakes are pretty good
Really helpful overview, thanks. Always nice to see people doing the hard graft of decent hardware reviews.
Nice to see the BIOS, a lot of videos never show the BIOS much or at all.
I like to see the BIOS its very annoying having a rubbish one. Only thing is they should be transparent to update.
They really improved on their bios.
Well, if they're offering, then yes - I'll have a look at their snatch.
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Competent and perfectly paced video. Great work
Much appreciated!
As a Canadian, I always appreciate the understated British humour. In this case you had me with the wi-fi antenna: "...It also unplugs." Spot on.
Edit: The bottom slot on the 870E is also Gen 3 x4 not Gen 3 x2 (thank the second chipset).
As well, yes, PCIe slots are useful for U.2 drive adapter expansion cards, properly high-speed network cards, a multitude of pro A/V cards, etc., etc. It's actually brutal ATX boards by most manufacturers have lost PCIe slots (Gigabyte being a notable exception). If you don't like the slots get a more affordable mATX board perhaps?
Super appreciate your coverage on motherboards!
Such an underrated piece of any build
There's a lot of comparisons to the ASRock Nova in the comments. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having full PCIe 5.0 x16, but only one M.2 connected directly to the CPU in the case of the Nova. Or three M.2 connected to the CPU directly with this board, and the PCIe 5.0 running at x8 if more than one is used. No GPU planned is using full PCIe 5.0 x16, and this board still has an additional M.2 on the chipset, if you want to run full x16 and have two M.2. The Nova is not better by default, this is a Chipset / CPU lane limitation either way.
Thanks for this useful comment! But what are the benefits of M2 connected directly to the CPU?
But nova has 8 layer PCB… :) while this card only 6…
I think it’s obvious that sharing lanes with M2 is much better than with GPU.
@vqa33 M.2 to CPU is less latency. More PCB layers is usually only to prevent signal interference, which depends on efficiency of trace routing. ASRock may have needed 8 or simple added for "extreme" OC of memory, which most do not do. All boards share lanes between PCIe and storage. Here it's the same, but with the Gigabyte board you have the option to have an additional 2 M.2 directly to the CPU, the ASRock does not.
@@drewnewby I’m going to buy X870 tomahawk anyway )) I also prefer avoid lane sharing with the gpu.
Thank you so much for this. I like your presentation style a lot. Even though it seems to be hard to actually acquire at the moment, i decided to... Snatch one for my 9900x build.
for all high end OC boards , wish they gave :
- ram fan cooling bracket for those high end OC settings plus small size 10mm thick fans like the noctua ones or some way to cool the ram without interference with cpu heatsink
- longer wifi antennas
- dual bios
- cmos reset switch
- cpu contact frame for better thermals and protection of the cpu bending issue + a proper hex torque wrench for that ilm frame screws
- rgb remote control
- sophisticated 12V and 5V sata powered fan hub with 10 ports each for PWM and rgb
- m.2 expansion card
- include a bunch of PWM extension cables
- PTM 7950 thermal pad
- two ps2 ports for no frills connectivity for mouse+kb while in bios
- marking on the usb headers which have direct connectivity lanes to cpu for that low latency IO devices like mouse + kb for gaming
- some replica of asus nitro path
- The effin PROPRIETARY SIZE "Bundled Thermal Pad" needed for single sided NVME as per the manual instructions.
- The effin PROPRIETARY SIZE "Bundled Thin Rubber Pads" and "Bundled Thick Rubber Pads" that manual instructs you to use for additional NVMEs...
@@edraith definitely
@@zlibz4582 I contacted them but they're not replying on this issue, this is infuriating and I'm considering just asking for a full refund at this point.
Excellent review really enjoyed it. I actually purchased the same motherboard prior to watching this video. Funny I also purchased the G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 Royal Neo in CL28 6000 32GB (2x16GB). My Main reason to purchase this board was price, features and a PCIe slot to handle a 10GbE Network card (4x Slot Gen 3/4). This was one of a few motherboards that had a x4 PCIe slot away from the GPU slot with enough bandwidth for the 10GbE expansion card. Today's GPUs bury most of the additional x1 to x16 expansion slots. Motherboards with x16/x8/x4 or x16/x8 are more expensive. Gigabyte Elite WiFi7 does share bandwidth between the PCIe 5.0 x16 GPU slot and 2 extra NVMe Gen5 slots which is the best comprise of PCIe lanes. I can't complain about a PCIe 5.0 GPU slot running at x8 with today's GPU's. I also chose The NZXT C1000 power supply and Ryzen 9800X3D CPU to be placed into a Montech King 95 Pro case.
Thanks for the detailed review, just got my board yesterday and planning to install the 9800x3D and Gigabyte 4080 Super. We'll see how that goes soon.
How did the build go?
Did you survive the install?
@@Jupex Yes, all put together, running stable and looks great. I did end up buying a 90-deg 24-pin and front panel USB connecter. Those connectors help turn the cables better to the back of the board. I have a rear, top mounted power supply. Having the same controller for RRB for the GPU and case fans is nice, less apps to run for RGB. I wish I didn't use the NZXT included case fans and controller. I don't like having another app to run the case installed fans. And, I have Corsair memory which needs iCue for the RGB, that sucks too. I am using the Gigabyte and AMD software for moderate overclocking, seems stable so far.
Did you have to do the BIOS update for the ryzen 7 9800x3d to work?
ooo been looking at this board over the last 2 days for the 9800x3d great timing!
How tf do you manage to get a 9800x3d
Finally a proper look at this motherboard!! (I bought it, I'm waiting for delivery and I will be building a set on it!) - after over 5 years, it's time to say goodbye to the z390 generation and the Intel i7 9700k (and Intel as such for now ;-D - you know why ;-D) - and for me, compared to my motherboard, even removing these heatsinks (and the release of the graphics card without a sore finger or the risk of scratching the motherboard with a screwdriver to get to the lock) and plugging in the drives is insane!
A very nice and thorough review. I thank you for a job well done!
Thanks for watching!
This man is a National Treasure.
high praise, I am sure Leo will be chuffed to read that
First of all awesome video very informative enough for a commoner like me to understand the features on the motherboard.
Thanks!
Just got the board delivered today.. Nice to get a review on the same day. One of the reason for purchase was because of the pcie slots though, since I want to put a 10gig nic in it. So yes there is a use case for those x4(x16) slots ;). Now just waiting for 9800x3d to be released.
Haven't yet felt the need to jump to AM5 yet. Still happy on AM4, but I'm very happy with Gigabyte's stuff. I normally go for MSI boards but in wanting to do an Intel build (as I hadn't done one for years) I was actually very impressed with the Z790 Aorus Elite for feature set - just recently added the Thunderbolt 4 card and it works a charm. If and when I do go for AM5 I will definitely go for the X3D and this board.
keep in mind that lane sharing of the GPUs x16 slot lane PCIE 5.0 is shared when using multiple PCIE 5.0 ssds.
Quote from the speficications page - " The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU connectors share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot."
just get a x670e board if you dont need the higher lan spped / wifi 7 / usb 4.0 standard. everything else is pretty much the same or better on the x670e boards in my opinion. cheers
most of the x670e costs more than this board and the few that cost less only cost less by like £20 ish
Asrock nova is best no lane sharing and a cheap motherboard.
@@christopherramsay5517 but its asrock if you dont want that brand its sad, but i agree the nova is pretty nice on paper, cant talk about it further as i didnt use it before only read about it. cheers
@@teanymonster5227 one of few dont share lanes with pci-e slots. Price is cheaper than other boards.
Thanks Leo, was a good video. learned a good bit about the platform too. Who on earth thought that SNATCH was a good name for anything in the tech sector? hilarious
Thanks, appreciate it. And we're certainly not sure 😂
This was a good board to review, its going to target a wide audience. When is the 9800X3D out? next week?
november 7th, in 2 days
Thursday
Just ordered this board.
I have two M2 drives, where can I use them so that they do not limit the PCIe 5.0 bus for the graphics card?
for anyone wondering, the VRMs on this mobo do get hotter than average if room temps are higher than normal, where i live im usually at 28c, sometimes reaching 32c, and i've seen the VRMs get up to 68c nearing 70c, so make sure you have decent air flow in your case.
@@Raindrop511 which case should i get i was thinking the h6 flow
@@joshua8590 looks very good, i have a Corsair 4000D myself, i think that case does come with all the fans you see on it, so just make sure they are an out take and it should be pretty cool in there.
@ tbh i been doing research on trying to connect 9 fans together which im having trouble on so i might go with the montech king 95 pro for my first build
The only x870e board I needed was the Nova wifi and I bought it already. It's always sold out for a reason.
You are right but for me x870E Taichi Lite is the way to go and it will arrive soon.
I've had this board for 3 weeks and the only little complaint I have is the lane sharing and no clear cmos on the back. I've done some research, and it doesn't look like lowering the GPU bandwidth hurts too much if even at all for gaming. Looks like in most cases you might lose a couple of FPS which probably won't be noticeable. That being said, I have 3 of the M2 slots populated and everything has been smooth. 2 x gen 4 2tb and 1 4tb gen4 crucial.
Thanks for sharing
Gigabyte boards are great lately, very stable and perform well
9:25 what happened to write on that GBT, looks like write and read were swapped
Thanks for your wonderful work
Doesn’t this chipset support 5Gb Ethernet? Any real disadvantage sticking with 2.5?
I'm a big fan of these X870/870E Gigabyte boards overall, Had great success with X570 Aorus Master board and B650i using right now for 7950X-3D mini itx. The other X870E board that interest me for the quality and feature set is the ASUS ProArt board.
The 2 pci-e slots may be basic but Gigabyte have at least fitted them, me I have a 10gbe and a capture card and it's extremely frustrating finding most motherboards have all their lanes allocated to m.2 slots.
I have the X670 aourus elite ax. Worth the upgrade? My fear is that for OC 9000 series cpu and fast memory my current mobo will not be stable?
Thanks. I've never spent over 200 USD on a board, but things are going that way with the midrange-premium motherboards.
Motherboard pricing has become a pathetic cesspool..
This board might even be considered budget by some, especially when the MSI Godlike and ASUS Maximus are priced between £700+. - £1300. Crazy prices in 2024
It’s nice they have added some vents into the rear Io panel but really that whole area needs a bit of a redesign. It’s very busy and congested with all those ports shoved into it nowadays.
Wish they would've kept the clrcmos button on the rear i/o.
So this Board and therefore The Aorus Pro X870e can both run RAM on 8000MHz without a problem?
Micro Center is offering a bundle w/ the 7950x3d, I've been wondering if it's worth pulling the trigger. I don't like how the PCIe x16 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots though, but I've read that supposedly it won't affect GPU performance much, but not sure what the reality is.
I bought that bundle a few weeks ago and haven't opened it yet. Trying to see if I should take it back based on the reviews of the 9800x3D. If that chip isn't much faster than the 7950x3D I'll keep it and start building.
@@Kwincy5 Careful, you may not be able to bring it back if it's been 15 days since you purchased, I believe I was told return policy for cpu and mobo is 15 days.
Got a question re the USB4. The specs indicate "2 x USB4® USB Type-C® ports, supporting USB4 and DisplayPort video outputs and a maximum resolution of 3840x2160@240 Hz" Does that mean that one has to use a USB-C to DP adapter and a DP monitor rather than a USBC to HDMI adapter and a HDMI monitor??
I almost regret having just bought the MSI Carbon, but not quite. I may have a use for the PCIe x4 slot: a Blackmagic Decklink card. That aside there's not much in it.
What's wrong with the Carbon? What disadvantages over this one?
Why dont they do mesh blanking plates for PCI slots to aid with cooling?
Does USB4 works with thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces for studio? Cannot find any reliable data on internet. X870e does not have TB header on motherboard either like x670 had... Thanks for answering.
I believe you forgot to mention that the CPU socket has a reinforced backing plate, as well as the graphics card slot, I have this board and along with the pushbutton pcie release and the tool free drive access, with a 7900 XTX I really appreciate the extra rigidity of the reinforced slot.
I've tortured this board for a month or so and its stable as a rock....
I was gonna say the software wasn't up to date but while watching this video I see there is a new bios, control center and several other drivers I guess I'll update it as I don't see AI snatch anywhere hehe, it also has several spots on board including in back with rgb built into it......
Super Solid MB imho for the price!
Thanks for the feedback, was good to read. thank you.
@KitGuruTech i can confirm the new bios did then trigger gigabyte control center to update all drivers and install AI Snatch, it's working fluid n fast DDR5 6000 at EXPO 1 CL30...7900xtx and 9700x ( 7800x3d sold out), primary cached gen 5 system drive and backups in 2 and 4....all TB....working a mint !!!
For the price I don't think I could have chose better, I'll be using the USB 4 eventually!
I can't get my M.2 sata to detect on this board. Have no problem with NVMe drives.
got the msi x870 tomahawk. excited.
Hows it? I am confuse between this mobo and x870 tomahawk. Suggest please. Thanks
I see that these motherboards say they support 5.1 and 7.1 audio, but the motherboard only has a Line Out and a Mic 3.5 jack in the back. How is the multi channel audio accessed?
Likely via Toslink to an external DAC.
you are the first person to put something up about this board that tells me what i need to know. Thank you! It should do well with a 9700x or a future 9800x3d and a ton of m.2 storage. I am curious however. For its aesthetics does it have rgb under the top IO cover where is says Aorus?
Glad I could help!
I have a quick question about the frequency of the 9700X, that you are using here. You show it being at 5.0 GHz, but from what I understand it does boost closer to 5.4 GHz on average. Same with the 14700K being at 5.1. Are you using less frequency in these tests. Or did I miss something in the video?!.
Love all those usb headers.
Thanks for a great review!
I am thinking of getting this motherboard or its "Pro" variant, as it has a bit better VRMs. The thing I don't really like is that if you use any of those Gen 5 m.2 slots, the primary slot drops down to x8 mode. That's plenty of bandwidth for the majority of graphics cards nowadays, especially the new ones that are about to come out, but it's something to keep in mind as a buyer.
Again, thanks for a great review!
Yeah its a good board, the VRMs are important, they seem pretty solid on this board.
Glad I could help!
I am planing to get a 5090 next year so that's actually a bit of a concern, are you saying if I ran a PCI 5 m.2 my 5090 has it's bandwidth slashed in half?
Does the PRO have the same issue?
@@deloford All gigabyte motherboards with x870e chipset function this way (yes, even the Master), but this only applies to two m.2 5.0 slots beneath the pcie x16 slot. Using the one above it will not affect the bandwidth.
When it came to current generation boards and GPUs on pcie gen 4, a 4090 saw almost no bottleneck when used in slots running in x8 mode. Since pcie gen 5 is double the bandwidth of gen 4, I doubt it will see any bottleneck when the primary slot is running in x8 mode.
I hope this helps.
You didn't mention the function of the extra HDMI port. It's internal, so what is it for?
The Master is a decent price currently in the UK, is it a great board?
This is what I'm planning to use with a 9800X3D. Do I HAVE to update the BIOS before booting into windows? (I've got enough memory sticks round here that I'm losing track of as it is :P )
I just want something insane from Aorus for Ryzen like the Elite X Ice they did for Intel. That is by far my favorite looking motherboard.
why can't they ever fill out the i/o panel
What did they miss?
@@KitGuruTech for what most of these boards cost especially the $500 to 1K+ range, its a slap in the face not to fill every space in that small i/o panel area with ANYTHING. squeeze a couple of usb2's in there. just don't insult me with empty space for my hundreds of fiats where for pennies more they could at least give the appearance of value. THATS what they missed.
@@james...cardinal I'm offended they don't have PS/2
Can anyone explain the differences between the x870e Aorus Elite WiFi 7 and the x870e Aorus Pro?
The Pro costs an additional £30-40 and I can't figure out what that extra cash buys.
From memory a change to 80A VRMs is the big difference
Leo
@@KitGuruTech Will that make much of a difference to the average user? VRM 'science' doesnt make a lot of sennse to me, no one really explains what specific VRMs will help - processors or voltages etc.
Elite (Realtek and MediaTek) supports wifi7 160Mhz, while Pro (Qualcomm) supports 320Mhz standard
Google AMD X870/X870E Roundup, 21 Boards Tested and go to the end. There is a table. More fan headers, 1 more USB, better VRM and full WIFI 7 as noted above. Oddly the Pro did worse in RAM and CPU frequency testing.
Is the board has some sort of rgb on it? Like you could tune it from its GCC app
I have X870 model, without ''E''. Is there any difference beetwen theses mobos?
On paper they looks identical so concentrate on the features offered by your specific motherboard and all should be well.
Leo
I am wondering about the In Out on the back where we use to have jacks for Sound, which seems to have changed, where there use to be different colored jacks for 5.1 audio, what is going on that these are now missing from the backs of many of the Mother boards.. I noticed that the asus Tuf board still has them, but most boards have gone away, what is the deal if you could let me know.. and or is there an audio interface which will allow someone to plug in their 5.1 jacks into it..
Can someone explain in TECHNICAL TERMS
The differences between
Gigabyte X870E Aorus PRO and
Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE
The price of the first one is 80-90€ for what exactly
the aorus letters on the mobo light up?
@@joseanspot i have this motherboard and i cant seem to get them to light up. Im. Ot sure why
Thanks Leo, would you look at some ASROCK boards? you guys never look at them and they are much better value than the big 3 in all areas
Stay tuned... We do have something coming up
@@KitGuruTech We would like a review of the X870E Nova if it's possible please 🙂 Plenty of reviews of the Taichi/Lite already.
How many M.2 SSD Nvme can fit in this motherboard without dropping down the GPS from 16 to 8, also can I use Gen 4 M.2 SSD in all the slots instead of Gen 5 as the Gen 4 would be cheaper to use.
I am not liking the idea of the proprietary plugin Wi-Fi antenna. I replaced my stock one with one that was more stable than the cheap one that came with the motherboard and kept falling over. I was then also surprised by the stronger signal. This would only work for me if that plug could be adapted to another antenna.
As for what to use in those bottom two PCIe slots… A 10 Gbps NIC is a hard requirement for me and the bottom slot is perfect for one.
Hi, can I please have the name of the test bench, I like the idea of having the psu underneath.
Thanks
Hi! I bought the same motherboard. I was wondering where among the M.2 slots does 2280 ssd works? And also the wifi doesn't work even i downloaded driver for it. Tysm!!!
Did you try overclocking it how far could you push the memory etc?
Be interesting to know whether the 9800X3D would be able to extract more performance from the MSI Carbon
How viable is the large heat sink for cooling two Gen5 NVMEs and one Gen4? I've seen that Gen5 can run really hot so I am concerned if the single heat spreader works for multiple drives.
Good job Leo!
I went with the aorus pro ice x870e because it's by far the best looking white board on the market. And I'm not dumb enough to think 5.0 8x is really going to drop performance by more than 10-15 frames even on a 5090 if I want a few more SSD's.
Good review thanks ❤
You’re welcome 😊
According to the specifications on the website of Gigabyte the PCIE 16 gen 5.0 slot shares lanes with the M.2 ssd's. So yeah....
Yeah, but you can put one PCIe Gen 5 in that gets lanes from the CPU and one Gen 4 that gets its lanes from the chipset and you won't hit the top PCIe slot - so you'll still get the full x16 for your graphics card. This is an issue for all the X870e motherboards, not just Gigabyte.
@@CRF-2013 I meant the sharing of the PCIe16 5.0 lanes with M.2 SSD. True, not only Gigabyte shares PCIe lanes when M.2 SSD is installed. As far as I know the ASRock X870E Taichi ( and the lite one) has one M.2 which gets 4 lanes PCIe 5.0 without sharing lanes from the PCIe 16 Graphicscard slot. But then again 8 lanes of the PCIe_1 (16 gen 5.0) slot will be shared once the PCIe_2 gets occupied as well. As far as I know now only ASRock Taichi boards do not share PCIE_1 5.0 lanes with PCIE M.2 SSD.
Is this a bad thing to share lanes? Which mobo did you end up going with? I'm currently researching.
@@Boofatcha Relatively a bad thing. But PCIe 5.0- will be the next standard, so the graphic cards developers will also be on the 5.0 PCIe platform.
I ended up buying an ASRock Taichi X870E motherboard. The first M.2 SSD is PCIe 5.0 without sharing any of the 16 lanes of the PCIe_1 5.0. As far as i know none of the ASRock X870E motherboards share lanes of the5.0 PCIe_1 x16. This chipset and CPU of the Taichi have 24 5.0 PCIe lanes, PCIe_1 x16 for the graphics card, which leaves 8 5.0 PCIe lanes to share. Four of them go to the M.2_1 drive the other four to USB 4.0, I believe.
Sharing PCIe 5.0 lanes is a waste of PCIe lanes as far as speed is concerned. The M.2_1 drive on my MB is really 'blazing fast'. Because it doesn't share lanes with the 5.0 PCIe_1 x16 (graphic card slot).
Goodluck with your queeste.
@@Boofatcha probably overblown
I just don't like the GPU lane sharing and having a lot of USB 2.0 for a "new and improved" MB. I feel that it is better to buy a good x670e and just update/flash bios or just buy the AsRock x870e Nova if it is not out of stock (currently out of stock).
I was looking at the ASROCK X870 Nova - I wish Leo would look at some ASROCK boards, they are such good value. I just dont know if their bioses are any good and if they are stable.
there are bunch of stuff that doesn't require huge speed and without any issue on USB 2.0 such as peripherals. It is better to have such stuff for those things.
Sort of a bit disappointing that the internal usb-c isnt rated at a higher transfer rate.
I just bought the msi 870 tomahawk. It's unopened. Newegg has this gigabyte board with a set of corsair 6400 ram for 320$ which board would you prefer?
Tomahawk > Aorus Elite = TUF
Tomahawk any day
I got the X870E Aorus Pro Ice. Seems like it's basically this board for the most part, just white. Yes, or am I missing something?
@KitguruTech Which motherboard do you prefer X870E or X870 Tomahawk? Thanks
And yet, usualy 670 series frim Gigabyte had problems with bios and ddr stability. Does the new 870 series suffers the same? This is the only question that deserves an answer.
Gigabyte Aorus Elite was a mistake to buy for my opinion. After less than 5 days the mobo couldn't boot and I was flooded by DRAM light error and multiple bios post codes. The board couldn't get fixed with clear cmos different bios updates different RAMs and removed hard disks. All I got were BSoD and an RMA that unfortunately didn't got because I was at 15 days since bought. The motherboard is now at the offices of Gigabyte and is getting checked. Their update was that I have to wait since February 21st to get my mobo back.
can't get over the gigabyte bios though, different opinion with you on that. The 2 PCIe slots, those are quite useful, for a NIC in the x4 pci4 slot, and a sound card in the other.
Good review Leo - price point seems good, but last Gigabyte board I had was very poor, had a lot of hard locks. sent it back and got a ROG board, much better
Thanks for sharing
I was looking at the MSI X870 Tomahawk, which has 5G LAN. I only plan to use 2x m.2 4.0 SSDs, so there should be no lane problems. But I didn’t know mainboards would perform differently in benchmarks. How do the Gigabyte compare to the MSI? The price is very similar.
lookup the Hardware Unboxed 870 roundup. It does quite well (spoiler alert).
Are there any matx boards on the way?
What is the difference between X870 vs X870E?
What's the internal HDMI socket intended for?
Good question. It is a conventional HDMI for the integrated graphics and the idea is you can power a screen inside your PC case, most likely in the front or side panel. If you are using a secondary external display you would use the regular output on the back panel.
Leo
To connect a LCD system monitor.
@@KitGuruTech Thanks Leo!
question: do any board have 5.1 optiical audio? that would save me buying a sound card (bc hdmi audio drops out for me and kills watching movies)
Realtek optical out to an external DAC should do it. In fact I won't buy a board without an optical output.
This really is a great board - very well balanced and not compromised - just a small accessory pack with it. Are those VRMs any good ? how are they rated? I dont understand that side of things very well.
I've been thinking about just getting a 670e for my next build, but the easy installation features for m.2s and the release button for the graphics card may push me the other way. I tend to slowly upgrade my systems over time so those things add value. The BIOS looks really good. I can take or leave the usb4 or wifi 7 though.