Next up will either be making the 9950x snappy machine or the Intel 285K review, whichever comes first, just depends on how much potential headaches I can sift through with the new platform before NDA lifts lol.... If you guys have any specific tests for the new i9, then let me know below.
More interested in the 9950X snappy machine but I'll watch both! 285K I figure likely people will get 2 gens unless some fiasco strikes again. Still feel a little burnt by 12th not having a reliable upgrade path. 285K is supposed to have better memory support 8000 speed seems hit/miss on different boards, 285K should be compared with a 14900K it probably is more energy efficient but loses in raw power. Rocket Lake 2.0.
Just be wary of some boards from all vendors, they may say WiFi 7 support, but they may not support the 320 MHz band. The Aorus Master does support 320 MHz band, but not the Aorus Elite WiFi 7 it's only 160 MHz. Read the specs table guys!
Good catch, I almost went for the X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE, cause I didn't see any difference until I read your comment and decided to check it out, so now I am going for the X870E AORUS PRO ICE, since the X870E Pro Ice does support 320Mhz Wifi7
@@techyescity hey sorry for the late reply, been pretty busy over all. getting a new monitor soon still sick on 60 Hz 1080p so interested in finding a decent 1080p with 144Hz or better and no ghosting on the display like my current VA panel has
I absolutely loved my Gigabyte motherboard for my Core 2 Duo. I haven’t used Gigabyte since then so I can’t say much about them. I remember that motherboard costing about 150 bucks and it was a pretty high end board at the time. It had so much copper on it you could make an entire tower cooler out of pure cooper. I guess copper prices were cheaper then.
i have x670e Gigabyte Aorus master and i use infinity fabric because of your video on 6400mhz cl 30 40 40 96 infinity frabric 2133 thanks for advice and works flawless yes and -20 i use all cores negative on 7800x3d and i use low latency and high bandwith on for memory :)
I have the same motherboard but I could only use two sticks of ram but not all four lans. The reason that it won't boot up is because the expo failed to use all four sticks. How can I fix it
@@techyescity mitx is usually more expensive and has less connectivity (like pcie slots or m2). A lot of cheap (and not so cheap) small matx cases that still fit absurd gpus. No wonder matx is so popular. Asrock should make x870 Pro RS matx for $50 less.
what about lane sharinng? Those Gigabyte boards do share M2 with PCI-E. I've read Asrock doesn't do that and on previous Gigabyte mobos when u utilised all M2 slots there were porblems. Can u test it?
@@luanmaia according to your brands motherboard map, your board do share lane, will down from x16 to x8 if U use the gen 5 m.2 slot, but unless your using a 4090, U dont need to worry about x8 speed, even x8 speed on a 4090 only loses about 5% performance according to benchmarks done before
I was able to replicate your bios lag and i think mine is way worse! I did a quick video on it. Initially i thought you were just having bad luck as other board reviews didnt flag this issue. My keystrokes on both mouse and keyboard didnt register for like 30s and after that it just spammed the keystrokes leading to something similar you showed in the screen
Thanks for the heads up! Been using Aorus (AMD) boards for years and enjoy the performance and value. Sad to see "premium" is not becoming so premium anymore.
I own an Aorus X570 Master for 3 years. All the bios I used are laggy and I can confirm the same for the elite variant as well. Also their rgb software is sheit and missing support for many mainstream DDR models. Lastly, you don't wanna mess with Gigabyte concerning warranty, they barely speak a few words in English and they were very unhelpful
Was a bit curious in how motherboard pricing compared and features, will say my Z690 TG Wifi boards were much cheaper and 159 & tax, 170 when I did Alder Lake builds Wifi 6e, similar m.2 and power stages. That B650I is slapping these boards in Cyberpunk benchmark. I spend enough time setting up the BIOS to tune where a laggy BIOS would be annoying. My past Asrock, MSI, and even Asus boards weren't laggy. I feel BIOS advanced settings are getting more bloated with time. I remember my B760M Asrock Pro RS was 99 and tax (107 I think), well I am not completely sold on this new feature set Wifi7 and Gen5 basically, USB4 I'm not sure I'd use it for some time. I think with time these new X870/E will get cheaper maybe Microcenter will have a nice bundle but I'm not excited about things as is.
Thanks for the review Brian! A couple of questions about the X870 elite: 1) I just bought wi fi 6 mesh routers a few months ago. Does the whole 160 Hz wifi 7 thing really matter? I hace a cheap 100 mbit connection which serves me well enough (I barely download anything). 2) does the MB have analogue 5 o 7.1 out? If not that would be the perfect excuse to get a Soundblaster AE9… yes I like sound cards hahaha 😅
Wifi 6 already has fast enough speeds for 100mbit, on a $6 wifi dongle I was able to get 240mbps.... so its basically about having the whole system for wifi 7 (to extract any benefit from it), my guess is the chips are cheap as so they like pushing it in the marketing. 2. both have 7.1 support via optical out.
To what i read on their motherboard manuals, they have 7.1 out, just not from the back io, the frontal connectors (mic/headphone) will work as your side/back speakers, i think you need to to set it up inside the bios. Personally i would love to see a PCIe card that has the front panel mic/heaphone connector so i connect all to the back, but i guess until there are some enthusiast that want to adapt to this new board restrictions, will have to get used to using the case front 3.5 connectors.
Looks like Micro Center is offering the X870E Aorus Elite in a bundle w/ the 7950x3d.... Was possibly looking at this combo, but looks like the PCIex16 gen 5 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots, which I'm not too crazy about.
in gigabytes bios i recommend doing ctrl alt f6 to lower the resolution so the bios isnt laggy, i had this issue on my x570s aorus master and this made it actually fast and snappy lol. its very dumb that you need to do this but its what got me through it (oh and this is only an issue for me when csm support is enabled)
Canada is being ripped off too! The difference on our dollar compared to the US dollar is suppose to be about 30% yet pricing for computer hardware always has an extra 30 to 40% on top of the 30% difference ! I've been told its additional tariffs but we're right next door! ........ Seriously ripped off!
I am not familiar with Canada, but in Aus, because it's coming from Taiwan/CN and products like it are not made here, it has very little import duties, so should be very close to US pricing.
@@techyescity It's just the Australia tax, because we're a small population they send limited units here through like one or two distributors who absolutely screw retailers over. Eventually those units don't sell and the distributor starts discounting after like 3-4 months.
The gigabyte X670Es were the best from the 600 generation... Absolutely no issues with the aorus master and the Aorus pro x... I had issues with asrock and msi. Both of my boards I easily got them to work with 6400 MTs in 1:1 ratio at 2133... I don't know if anything is wrong with the 870 🤔
@@techyescity When I was selling Sandy Bridge boards. Gigabyte's were extremely laggy. I hated the mouse and used keyboard exclusively. I remember an update made it much better. I can check with my stock of boards. For sure.
On the BIOS side of things, when I'm building a retro rig and i get into that blue screen with the yellow text it's like a sigh of relief. Everything I need is in there. Why do we need GUI BIOS's
I think a more constructive & informative way to test the "value" of these boards would be to test them against X670E boards, but using current gen hardware: 9000 series CPUs 8000+ speed DDR5 Gen5 M.2 SSDs. Then, and only then, will you be able to see the difference in performance these boards can deliver compared to the X670 generation of boards.
My question is do they boot reliable if you do a "reboot" their x670e does not even after 2 years it has never been fixed it. If you are doing an update and that is followed by a restart it will hang and you have to power cycle it. Its the main reason I want a different MB but this is the same boards only x870e, so does it restart now with no issues??
I have the x870 Elite wifi but in the bios I can't find a boot drive (original win10 USB key) (Used bios F3d, F3e and went back to bios F2). Using F12 function at bootup it can't find anything. But in the Bios I can see my M.2 and even the M.2A test runs fine and in USB I can find the Win10 key but not in bootable drives. Horrible first experience with Gigabyte.
I am reluctant to buy Aorus in the future due to many many issues that are solved by getting a much cheaper ASRock motherboard. Laggy bios, not wanting to update bios, laggy bios, memory training issues, reboots etc etc. this happened on AMD x670e and 2x z790 intel boards which have the same sort issues. Also the LAN nic was broken on 2 boards. Out of coulance I get my money back from gigabyte due to the bad experiences with them which is very nice tbh but the frustration i had with this brand is crazy.
MSI x870/x870e boards seem like the best this time around. Asrock Nova is best value x870e. I was disappointed by Asrock low/mid offerings - Tomahawk is just that good.
You looking value and performance with flagship features get the Asrock Gaming Nova Wifi X870E just 325.00 on Neweeg USA after mail rebate but frequently out of stock ,people are buying this board like crazy .I was able to get on my Gskill DDR5 memory 16x2GB 6000mhz a stable overclock of 7400 mhz . You should review this board in your channel
so many people are requesting it, I will ask asrock to send one over, but from what I gather it is just like the Taichi? In that case going to be a very solid board for high end.
My Hyundai (brand new) got a transmission replacement before 60k miles, and every single speaker replaced after they were blown (they told me at the dealership that I had to wait till they were blown before they would replace them, so I had to make alot of trips). the alarm would go off when it was cold because the button wouldnt be depressed enough under the hood lock and the doors would not accept the key when frozen (the keyhole wasn't blocked by ice, but after inserted it just wouldn't turn). never again, Honda and Toyota for me going forward lol
these new cpus do work abit hotter check if you screwed properly the block over the cpu, just in case is not maing proper contact, 26 c is a hot environment, to me that sounds normal, would you like to see what temperatures? anyone promised you a specific value? how hot does it get under load doing cinebench or prime95
It looks z890 UD more made sense Last Gigabyte elite with good value is z390 elite ,after that they started to cut cost on it Intel board usually only support 2 generation ,don't spend too much on it
Has AMD made any solid commitment as to how long they will be using this sockets layout? That would be a huge deciding factor for me if paying such a premium. Really in depth review, Thanks Bryan.
amd made plans for 3 generation of cpus for this csocket, this one is the third basically, no one is talking about a socket replacement, so i bet it will do at least another two, if not more, the socket has not reached ram or cpu limits yet, so i think they will do the same that they are doing with am4
@@airknight3318 I found them in the scrapyard. Actually I have maybe about six AM4 boards between B350 and X470 from there. Each $10 Australian. I also picked up an A320 board. I tested them. They work.
To people hating on specific brand -- if you ever get to know the market as a whole, you could see it's literally everyone. There's just no "100% reliable top rep" brands anymore. Any reviews can be made up, both negative and positive. It's a shame but all you can really do is pay extra but even that isn't a guarantee.
The previous B650 (pre revisions) and X670 Aorus Elite boards were 8 layers and had nearly everything you need. The new X870 Aorus Elite (and all non-Master/ Xtreme Aorus boards) are all 6-layers now. So you're paying even more for a heap of features that's supposed to be standard across the new platform of motherboards for AMD, but it's still a compromise. If you ask me there's no reason to get these boards for the average consumer, no one needs to pay an extra $90 for a post code and USB 4 ports, and if they do they likely will seek higher end boards like the X870e Nova. Xtremely... disappointing what Gigabyte did with this new gen of AM5 boards especially compared to the competition. Unless you specifically want Gigabyte's aesthetics, the sensible buy for most people is to just look at older gen boards or find an X870e Nova.
Asrock give you the best value for the money and better VRM's, 8-layer PCB and cheaper. The Asrock Nova for $359 puts the Master to shame. The B650 Elite AX was better then the X870 and was under $200. Over priced 6-Layer PCB and 60 AMP VRM, Gigabyte what good is having 4 M.2 slots if you can only used 2 slots as the 2nd and 3rd M.2"s share the band width with the PCIe 16 slot. They finally started to use at least 1220 audio instead of the 15 year old audio. $500 for their best that again you can use 2 out of 4 M.2 slots as they share the bandwidth with Pcie 16 I think the Master is worth $350 tops..
no need to change bios behavior since you get in there once or twice as a normal user and never touch again. or honestly. you never visit it anyway - so no fix since nothing is broken.
Except when you do need to get into the Bios repeatedly. If other vendor bioses are snappy and work fine, why make excuses when you're spending big bucks? Like, why buy an enthusiast product if you're just doing plug and play?
Just bought an Aorus board and the bios is dreadful, its lagging and the mouse pointer does not keep up to speed, it jumps around as you move it. Maybe it’s me but the bios lacks detail in my opinion. There is no facility to stop power to the usb ports when the pc is off? How come Gigabyte? Plenty of overclocking options but only minimal other adjustments can be made. I have a 2014 ASUS board that beats the Gigabyte board bios hand down, with virtually everything you can think of being adjustable in bios. The ASUS board just seems better all round. I am rather disappointed in the Auros board to be honest.
Good balanced review; In the UK we are hit by Rip off Britain prices as well on Electronics like Motherboards, Mobiles, cameras, etc. A Village idiot UK Q; any ideas on why these Bios / UEFI programs so laggy ? / delayable ?
Heat remains a problem with Gen 5 drives that use the same controller as gen 4 drives. If you ran a longer As SSD test you would see the drive throttle within a minute down to below Gen 4 speed. Sooooooo………why pay for a gen 5 drive.
prices are out of control, this way the pc master race is over, so few people can pay those 500 and 600 cheap motherboards because a cheap 250 dollars motherboard is a expensive motherboard we need 50 and 60 dollar motherboards again companies are too greedy now, it is unpayable for 99% of gamers
Im tired of giving my money to the underdog, getting amd gpu, or amd cpu back in the day, they will just comeback with higher prices. Why is the 7900xtx 1k euros msrp? If it was 700 they would have made way much money in quantity,nobody is buying amd gpu and thats a good thing imo,f them(rx 7600 being 270 euros msrp 😂 when the 4060 was 300 and beter,who would buy amd,dont forget the price was 300 first)Now im buying only what i want ,nvidia all the way till they get overshadow by another company(cant wait to get the rtx 5090 being 2k or 3k euro). Intel has only 2 gens cpu on the same platform ,the 2 being a refresh.Who and why would buy a 500 mo for 1 cpu upgrade. Why does the 9000 exist?they shoul have just said its a refresh cause 5% and no efficieny its a refresh nothing more. Man im having a bad day today
The x870 is a b650e, Amd really downgraded the new chipsets. I'll be rocking my Aorus Pro x x670e untill 2028. No need to upgrade if you have a x670e boards are basically the same.
The Gigabyte BIOS is such garbage lol. I see it's still filled with way too many menus that I assume still lead you to duplicate settings. "You can find this setting in this menu, this sub menu, this other menu and over here. Welcome to Gigabyte."
it's gigabyte, what do you expect, they felt it was ok selling their customers exploding power supplies. Their GPUs are ugly, their MBs still don't have working ARGB headers and yes their BIOS is crap. I would never waste my money on a gigabyte product.
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Next up will either be making the 9950x snappy machine or the Intel 285K review, whichever comes first, just depends on how much potential headaches I can sift through with the new platform before NDA lifts lol.... If you guys have any specific tests for the new i9, then let me know below.
i9, Video and photo editing, platform IO, undervolting / overclocking, sweet Spot for productivity.
But has your car brand of choice defeated their acronym yet?
A power consumption (system power) test for lightly threaded workloads. Intel said this should be WAY better.
More interested in the 9950X snappy machine but I'll watch both! 285K I figure likely people will get 2 gens unless some fiasco strikes again. Still feel a little burnt by 12th not having a reliable upgrade path. 285K is supposed to have better memory support 8000 speed seems hit/miss on different boards, 285K should be compared with a 14900K it probably is more energy efficient but loses in raw power. Rocket Lake 2.0.
This will be very interesting.. i am sure 😅
Just be wary of some boards from all vendors, they may say WiFi 7 support, but they may not support the 320 MHz band. The Aorus Master does support 320 MHz band, but not the Aorus Elite WiFi 7 it's only 160 MHz. Read the specs table guys!
Good catch, I almost went for the X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE, cause I didn't see any difference until I read your comment and decided to check it out, so now I am going for the X870E AORUS PRO ICE, since the X870E Pro Ice does support 320Mhz Wifi7
@@hdz77 Happy to help you out man.
I'm not buying it for the wifi I'm hardwired
@@billpii6314 Okay?
Where can I find the info?
Hey thanks for the video mate, hope you doing well!
Thanks man, doing well, what about you?
@@techyescity hey sorry for the late reply, been pretty busy over all. getting a new monitor soon still sick on 60 Hz 1080p so interested in finding a decent 1080p with 144Hz or better and no ghosting on the display like my current VA panel has
I paid around $220au for my AORUS ELITE AX WIFI B550 mb about 2 years ago now, and very happy with it.
I absolutely loved my Gigabyte motherboard for my Core 2 Duo. I haven’t used Gigabyte since then so I can’t say much about them. I remember that motherboard costing about 150 bucks and it was a pretty high end board at the time. It had so much copper on it you could make an entire tower cooler out of pure cooper. I guess copper prices were cheaper then.
Well done on a very good truthful review. You are incredible.
i have x670e Gigabyte Aorus master and i use infinity fabric because of your video on 6400mhz cl 30 40 40 96 infinity frabric 2133 thanks for advice and works flawless yes and -20 i use all cores negative on 7800x3d and i use low latency and high bandwith on for memory :)
I have the same motherboard but I could only use two sticks of ram but not all four lans. The reason that it won't boot up is because the expo failed to use all four sticks. How can I fix it
@@Edgar-u8v9m everywhere on the internet is like: don't buy 4 rams kit. just don't. try to sell yours and buy same capacity but 2 rams kit.
i found you with c920 logitech video from 11 years ago so many things changes since then in your videos wow
My fellow Hyundai owner I completely agree with you regarding value!
I decided to get Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7 Ice at febuari with 9900x3d and ddr5-8000Mhz xepo but should I get x670E insted for better silicone ?
Any high end matx boards on the horizon?
mATX usually don't get high end treatment so yeah.
I will ask asrock, though not excited about mini itx? that's personally more my jam
@@techyescity mitx is usually more expensive and has less connectivity (like pcie slots or m2). A lot of cheap (and not so cheap) small matx cases that still fit absurd gpus. No wonder matx is so popular. Asrock should make x870 Pro RS matx for $50 less.
what about lane sharinng? Those Gigabyte boards do share M2 with PCI-E. I've read Asrock doesn't do that and on previous Gigabyte mobos when u utilised all M2 slots there were porblems. Can u test it?
only x870 asrock boards & the msi godlike doesnt have lane sharing, all other boards do share lanes
have the x870 elite and do use all the m2 plus RTX4090 and no problem.
@@luanmaia according to your brands motherboard map, your board do share lane, will down from x16 to x8 if U use the gen 5 m.2 slot, but unless your using a 4090, U dont need to worry about x8 speed, even x8 speed on a 4090 only loses about 5% performance according to benchmarks done before
I was able to replicate your bios lag and i think mine is way worse! I did a quick video on it. Initially i thought you were just having bad luck as other board reviews didnt flag this issue.
My keystrokes on both mouse and keyboard didnt register for like 30s and after that it just spammed the keystrokes leading to something similar you showed in the screen
I read that people were fixing this issue by disconnecting usb devices, like their mouse.
Thanks for the heads up! Been using Aorus (AMD) boards for years and enjoy the performance and value. Sad to see "premium" is not becoming so premium anymore.
I own an Aorus X570 Master for 3 years. All the bios I used are laggy and I can confirm the same for the elite variant as well. Also their rgb software is sheit and missing support for many mainstream DDR models. Lastly, you don't wanna mess with Gigabyte concerning warranty, they barely speak a few words in English and they were very unhelpful
I've had my x570 about 4 years debating on getting this new one but don't really see a reason to
The Aorus Master and MAG Tomahawk are still holding top tier line!
Bummer you didn't test DDR5 8000+.
I was hoping for that too.
@@Artaxeus For some reason techtubers are scared to do FPS benchmarks for DDR5 these couple years for some odd reason.
@@N0N0111 Do you mean MHz benchmarks?
@@Artaxeus DDR5 6000 - DDR5 7000 - DDR5 8000
Was a bit curious in how motherboard pricing compared and features, will say my Z690 TG Wifi boards were much cheaper and 159 & tax, 170 when I did Alder Lake builds Wifi 6e, similar m.2 and power stages. That B650I is slapping these boards in Cyberpunk benchmark. I spend enough time setting up the BIOS to tune where a laggy BIOS would be annoying. My past Asrock, MSI, and even Asus boards weren't laggy. I feel BIOS advanced settings are getting more bloated with time. I remember my B760M Asrock Pro RS was 99 and tax (107 I think), well I am not completely sold on this new feature set Wifi7 and Gen5 basically, USB4 I'm not sure I'd use it for some time. I think with time these new X870/E will get cheaper maybe Microcenter will have a nice bundle but I'm not excited about things as is.
Thanks for the review Brian! A couple of questions about the X870 elite:
1) I just bought wi fi 6 mesh routers a few months ago. Does the whole 160 Hz wifi 7 thing really matter? I hace a cheap 100 mbit connection which serves me well enough (I barely download anything).
2) does the MB have analogue 5 o 7.1 out? If not that would be the perfect excuse to get a Soundblaster AE9… yes I like sound cards hahaha 😅
Wifi 6 already has fast enough speeds for 100mbit, on a $6 wifi dongle I was able to get 240mbps.... so its basically about having the whole system for wifi 7 (to extract any benefit from it), my guess is the chips are cheap as so they like pushing it in the marketing.
2. both have 7.1 support via optical out.
To what i read on their motherboard manuals, they have 7.1 out, just not from the back io, the frontal connectors (mic/headphone) will work as your side/back speakers, i think you need to to set it up inside the bios. Personally i would love to see a PCIe card that has the front panel mic/heaphone connector so i connect all to the back, but i guess until there are some enthusiast that want to adapt to this new board restrictions, will have to get used to using the case front 3.5 connectors.
Thanks!
Did you try an HDMI cable over DisplayPort cable to see if that resolved the laggy bios issue?
Looks like Micro Center is offering the X870E Aorus Elite in a bundle w/ the 7950x3d.... Was possibly looking at this combo, but looks like the PCIex16 gen 5 slot shares bandwith w/ two of the M.2 slots, which I'm not too crazy about.
3:35 I will keep my 7900x3d for gaming, editing, streaming and my AORUS B650 Elite AX with 64gb ram.
in gigabytes bios i recommend doing ctrl alt f6 to lower the resolution so the bios isnt laggy, i had this issue on my x570s aorus master and this made it actually fast and snappy lol. its very dumb that you need to do this but its what got me through it (oh and this is only an issue for me when csm support is enabled)
so its the graphics in the bios that slow it down?
@@Fighter4Street lowering the resolution does help at least
Canada is being ripped off too! The difference on our dollar compared to the US dollar is suppose to be about 30% yet pricing for computer hardware always has an extra 30 to 40% on top of the 30% difference ! I've been told its additional tariffs but we're right next door! ........ Seriously ripped off!
I helped my friend in Canada pick out parts in 2020 for his 5800X build. The price difference back then was shocking (am in the US).
I am not familiar with Canada, but in Aus, because it's coming from Taiwan/CN and products like it are not made here, it has very little import duties, so should be very close to US pricing.
@@techyescity It's just the Australia tax, because we're a small population they send limited units here through like one or two distributors who absolutely screw retailers over. Eventually those units don't sell and the distributor starts discounting after like 3-4 months.
Do they limit power for dual CCD chips? AsRock will only allow 180A on the TDC...
The gigabyte X670Es were the best from the 600 generation... Absolutely no issues with the aorus master and the Aorus pro x... I had issues with asrock and msi. Both of my boards I easily got them to work with 6400 MTs in 1:1 ratio at 2133... I don't know if anything is wrong with the 870 🤔
I own a good X670E (has been long to get a good BIOS ) but now I don't see any reason to change for a X870 for now.
Gigabyte UEFI BIOSes used to be even laggier when UEFI was introduced.
Do you think you could try a few generations and tell me the laggiest of the laggy, would love to see the total delay I could get on that thing.
@@techyescity When I was selling Sandy Bridge boards. Gigabyte's were extremely laggy. I hated the mouse and used keyboard exclusively. I remember an update made it much better. I can check with my stock of boards. For sure.
"used to"? I bought X570 Master in 2019 and it's super laggy, but only when CSM is disabled (native UEFI). Enabling CSM makes it perfectly normal.
I found out using mice with 2.4Ghz laggy as hell, when I plug in my mice with cable its smoth
your the value king in parts hunting 4sure
Go RED LEDs! Yeah I hate RGB LEDs. While i have them on my PC, I just set them all to red too
I really hope Arrow lake brings something exciting to the scene. It's been rinse and repeat for the last few generations on the CPU and GPU
It won't be a long way away now, just two days.
CUDIMM
On the BIOS side of things, when I'm building a retro rig and i get into that blue screen with the yellow text it's like a sigh of relief. Everything I need is in there. Why do we need GUI BIOS's
It's not only helpful for novices but also helps visualise certain aspects of fine tuning like fan controls.
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Nice posters.All classics.
What’s the best budget price to performance board to get for zen 4 or 5 I’m looking to upgrade.
I think a more constructive & informative way to test the "value" of these boards would be to test them against X670E boards, but using current gen hardware:
9000 series CPUs
8000+ speed DDR5
Gen5 M.2 SSDs.
Then, and only then, will you be able to see the difference in performance these boards can deliver compared to the X670 generation of boards.
How often do you change your bios? Bannn Wrong eval.
My question is do they boot reliable if you do a "reboot" their x670e does not even after 2 years it has never been fixed it. If you are doing an update and that is followed by a restart it will hang and you have to power cycle it. Its the main reason I want a different MB but this is the same boards only x870e, so does it restart now with no issues??
The fact we are still complementing the use of an ACL 1220 codec that came out like 10 years ago like a premium thing is pretty funny..
Lol reminds me of playing Mass effect 2 Thanes Loyalty mission listening Talid "humans think anything 10 years old is obselete"!
Still veering towards asrock phantom nova or taichi lite for me personally.
I have the x870 Elite wifi but in the bios I can't find a boot drive (original win10 USB key) (Used bios F3d, F3e and went back to bios F2).
Using F12 function at bootup it can't find anything. But in the Bios I can see my M.2 and even the M.2A test runs fine and in USB I can find the Win10 key but not in bootable drives.
Horrible first experience with Gigabyte.
Isn't it easier/cheaper to get a PCIe USB 4 adapter?
Does such a thing exist?
I am reluctant to buy Aorus in the future due to many many issues that are solved by getting a much cheaper ASRock motherboard. Laggy bios, not wanting to update bios, laggy bios, memory training issues, reboots etc etc. this happened on AMD x670e and 2x z790 intel boards which have the same sort issues. Also the LAN nic was broken on 2 boards. Out of coulance I get my money back from gigabyte due to the bad experiences with them which is very nice tbh but the frustration i had with this brand is crazy.
HI Have Gigabyte B650i and 7800x3d , Can i buy a 9800x3d, and upgrade, My GPU is a MSi 4070 Gaming X Trio ?
I got a weird Aurus board x870E elite, I haven't seen any reviews for it. $319
MSI x870/x870e boards seem like the best this time around. Asrock Nova is best value x870e. I was disappointed by Asrock low/mid offerings - Tomahawk is just that good.
got the x870 elite on black friday for 15% off, not too shabby
If you could find the best value boards that have eCLK to overclock 3d chips, that would be great.
and its something wrong with vdd and vvdq voltage if you put 1.45v it show c5 code
You looking value and performance with flagship features get the Asrock Gaming Nova Wifi X870E just 325.00 on Neweeg USA after mail rebate but frequently out of stock ,people are buying this board like crazy .I was able to get on my Gskill DDR5 memory 16x2GB 6000mhz a stable overclock of 7400 mhz . You should review this board in your channel
so many people are requesting it, I will ask asrock to send one over, but from what I gather it is just like the Taichi? In that case going to be a very solid board for high end.
@@techyescity the thing I like this board you can populate all the Nve drives you want and the Graphic will remain at X16 speed lane 💪
Hello! Would this board work with 32gb of 6000 at cl28?
Yes
if you run both Gen5 M.2s your PCIE Slot will default to 8x.
I would have to say there is something wrong with the speeds on these boards for that t705 as i am getting 16009, 14900 respectively.
My Hyundai (brand new) got a transmission replacement before 60k miles, and every single speaker replaced after they were blown (they told me at the dealership that I had to wait till they were blown before they would replace them, so I had to make alot of trips). the alarm would go off when it was cold because the button wouldnt be depressed enough under the hood lock and the doors would not accept the key when frozen (the keyhole wasn't blocked by ice, but after inserted it just wouldn't turn).
never again, Honda and Toyota for me going forward lol
Please answer why my 7800x3d ambient 26c still idle at 50c
This is horrible 😭😭 im using aio LF III 360
these new cpus do work abit hotter
check if you screwed properly the block over the cpu, just in case is not maing proper contact, 26 c is a hot environment, to me that sounds normal, would you like to see what temperatures? anyone promised you a specific value?
how hot does it get under load doing cinebench or prime95
@@arch1107 r23 = 4.84ghz @17k score
@@arch1107 also insta max at 89c
Normal behavior for 7800x3d I idle at 46 on a 420 water loop but only maxes to 48 very normal for these.
It looks z890 UD more made sense
Last Gigabyte elite with good value is z390 elite ,after that they started to cut cost on it
Intel board usually only support 2 generation ,don't spend too much on it
Has AMD made any solid commitment as to how long they will be using this sockets layout? That would be a huge deciding factor for me if paying such a premium. Really in depth review, Thanks Bryan.
amd made plans for 3 generation of cpus for this csocket, this one is the third basically, no one is talking about a socket replacement, so i bet it will do at least another two, if not more, the socket has not reached ram or cpu limits yet, so i think they will do the same that they are doing with am4
@@arch1107 It would be great to see AM5 even come close to having the lifespan such as to match AM4. Thanks for your input.
I can guarantee one thing………..it will be supported at least twice as long as Intel platform support. 😊
Subbed for trashing the fed XD
z890 motherboard pricing is even more insane than x870/e boards
Finally the freaking alc1220, FOR ONCE
Im kind of confused with the marketing of the Elite, i just bought the x870e AORUS Elite, but i see theres also a x870 version
My $10 X470 strix board looks better every day.
You mean $100 right ?
@@airknight3318 $10 Australian
@@airknight3318 No. I mean $10. $10 Australian. $250 TWD.
@@MarcoGPUtuber wha how
@@airknight3318 I found them in the scrapyard. Actually I have maybe about six AM4 boards between B350 and X470 from there. Each $10 Australian. I also picked up an A320 board.
I tested them. They work.
There is also the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite, which is the cheapest X870E motherboard at just $320
To people hating on specific brand --
if you ever get to know the market as a whole, you could see it's literally everyone.
There's just no "100% reliable top rep" brands anymore.
Any reviews can be made up, both negative and positive. It's a shame but all you can really do is pay extra but even that isn't a guarantee.
I sure hope Gigabyte doesn’t let him down
The previous B650 (pre revisions) and X670 Aorus Elite boards were 8 layers and had nearly everything you need. The new X870 Aorus Elite (and all non-Master/ Xtreme Aorus boards) are all 6-layers now. So you're paying even more for a heap of features that's supposed to be standard across the new platform of motherboards for AMD, but it's still a compromise. If you ask me there's no reason to get these boards for the average consumer, no one needs to pay an extra $90 for a post code and USB 4 ports, and if they do they likely will seek higher end boards like the X870e Nova. Xtremely... disappointing what Gigabyte did with this new gen of AM5 boards especially compared to the competition. Unless you specifically want Gigabyte's aesthetics, the sensible buy for most people is to just look at older gen boards or find an X870e Nova.
you wonder where his new intel review is?
Asrock give you the best value for the money and better VRM's, 8-layer PCB and cheaper. The Asrock Nova for $359 puts the Master to shame. The B650 Elite AX was better then the X870 and was under $200. Over priced 6-Layer PCB and 60 AMP VRM, Gigabyte what good is having 4 M.2 slots if you can only used 2 slots as the 2nd and 3rd M.2"s share the band width with the PCIe 16 slot. They finally started to use at least 1220 audio instead of the 15 year old audio. $500 for their best that again you can use 2 out of 4 M.2 slots as they share the bandwidth with Pcie 16 I think the Master is worth $350 tops..
no need to change bios behavior since you get in there once or twice as a normal user and never touch again. or honestly. you never visit it anyway - so no fix since nothing is broken.
These are enthusiast boards though. I go into mine many times when fine tuning my system.
It's a bad user experience for such an expensive piece of hardware. It doesn't have to be like this.
Except when you do need to get into the Bios repeatedly. If other vendor bioses are snappy and work fine, why make excuses when you're spending big bucks? Like, why buy an enthusiast product if you're just doing plug and play?
Msi carbon x870e is better board with features.
Hope you review that also like this.
I found the x870e cross hero for cheaper than the x670e version, on Amazon
These prices are crazy.
I have msinx870 amd its laggy
Red-ish orange would be better for your eyes, it's a rather "soft" color, better than a simple red.
Just bought an Aorus board and the bios is dreadful, its lagging and the mouse pointer does not keep up to speed, it jumps around as you move it. Maybe it’s me but the bios lacks detail in my opinion. There is no facility to stop power to the usb ports when the pc is off? How come Gigabyte? Plenty of overclocking options but only minimal other adjustments can be made. I have a 2014 ASUS board that beats the Gigabyte board bios hand down, with virtually everything you can think of being adjustable in bios. The ASUS board just seems better all round. I am rather disappointed in the Auros board to be honest.
aussie gamers have been getting ripped off for years, your so right,
Why are we still on 100mhz FSB, why can't they increase that? I know you can overclock it but we have been on 100mhz FSB for decades.
Good balanced review; In the UK we are hit by Rip off Britain prices as well on Electronics like Motherboards, Mobiles, cameras, etc. A Village idiot UK Q; any ideas on why these Bios / UEFI programs so laggy ? / delayable ?
The elite is now a 6 layer PCB so that's probably ruined it's memory oc capabilities.
Pay more for a de bug light. The b650e aorus pro x usb4 is on the horizon.
I'll go for Asus Strix for superior audio with similar performance.
x870e aorus elite only has 6 layer pcb and 60A power stages. really underwhelming
Jingyue should pay you for the B650i night devil motherboard . Or at least send you free motherboards for review .
Pretty expensive those latest mobo , specially those from intel ,and they don't have more vrm for that price, its just the name ELITE or AORUS 😅
Heat remains a problem with Gen 5 drives that use the same controller as gen 4 drives. If you ran a longer As SSD test you would see the drive throttle within a minute down to below Gen 4 speed. Sooooooo………why pay for a gen 5 drive.
No 10G and no backplate on the master ruined it at that price.
My asrock b650e riptide was the best buy I ever did 😂
All the features I want for a reasonable price..
2 years ago🤡
bro, there is pciex5 and wifi7, what are you talking about nothing new???
17:03 a lot of what
600€ for the master !
No DisplayPort?? Wtf..
The high end models have it on the USB-C port.
Tried to buy a 9800x3d with Arous Master……….PAPERLAUNCH
Yeah they will change the BIOS font just for you. lol
My god, DDR5 + these chipsets seem to be making motherboard prices insane, and stay insane.
b series boards are a better value for the games i do.
prices are out of control, this way the pc master race is over, so few people can pay those 500 and 600 cheap motherboards because a cheap 250 dollars motherboard is a expensive motherboard
we need 50 and 60 dollar motherboards again
companies are too greedy now, it is unpayable for 99% of gamers
All these mb offer 4 m.2 slots but if you use more than 2 then guess what? we will make other components slower.
Dont worry ppl Here in Europe get ripped Off as well
Im tired of giving my money to the underdog, getting amd gpu, or amd cpu back in the day, they will just comeback with higher prices. Why is the 7900xtx 1k euros msrp? If it was 700 they would have made way much money in quantity,nobody is buying amd gpu and thats a good thing imo,f them(rx 7600 being 270 euros msrp 😂 when the 4060 was 300 and beter,who would buy amd,dont forget the price was 300 first)Now im buying only what i want ,nvidia all the way till they get overshadow by another company(cant wait to get the rtx 5090 being 2k or 3k euro). Intel has only 2 gens cpu on the same platform ,the 2 being a refresh.Who and why would buy a 500 mo for 1 cpu upgrade. Why does the 9000 exist?they shoul have just said its a refresh cause 5% and no efficieny its a refresh nothing more. Man im having a bad day today
The x870 is a b650e, Amd really downgraded the new chipsets. I'll be rocking my Aorus Pro x x670e untill 2028. No need to upgrade if you have a x670e boards are basically the same.
The Gigabyte BIOS is such garbage lol. I see it's still filled with way too many menus that I assume still lead you to duplicate settings. "You can find this setting in this menu, this sub menu, this other menu and over here. Welcome to Gigabyte."
it's gigabyte, what do you expect, they felt it was ok selling their customers exploding power supplies. Their GPUs are ugly, their MBs still don't have working ARGB headers and yes their BIOS is crap. I would never waste my money on a gigabyte product.