I'm Not Sure Why Nobody Noticed This... The Spyderco Para 3 (Paramilitary 3) vs Paramilitary 2 Knife
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The Spyderco Para 3 (Paramilitary 3) has finally arrived! Reviews are starting to roll out but there's one MAJOR difference between the Paramilitary 3 and the Paramilitary 2 that everyone has missed. Find out in the video!
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---Specs:
Blade Length: 3"
Closed Length: 4.27"
Overall Length: 7.27"
Cutting Edge: 2.63"
Blade Thickness: 0.150"
Blade Material: CPM S30V Stainless Steel
Blade Style: Clip Point
Blade Grind: Full Flat
Blade Finish: Satin
Blade Edge: Plain
Handle Material: G10
Handle Color: Black
Locking Mechanism: Compression
Pocket Clip: Tip-Up, Tip-Down, Left/Right Carry
Model Number: C223GP
Model Name: Para 3
Weight: 3.5 oz.
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I don’t understand people dulling their knife blades on cardboard when you can buy a box cutter for $2? I have box cutters everywhere I might need them. It’s so silly to see people cutting up cardboard with their edc knife. If I’m cutting bullshit I get a bullshit cutter...
I'm assuming the reason your hand doesn't sit the same is because the Para3 is a smaller version of the paramilitary 2, key word being smaller
the Para 3 is supposed to be smaller, that way it can stay legal in states where there is a blade length limit. it's a more EDCable knife for more people. it's made to fill that void between the delica and the Paramilitary 2 and still maintain the same basic ergonomics.
Rooster Diggs Yeah I mentioned that a few times in the video
Happy to live in AZ, where we don't have a problem with the length of the blade
@@nautilus1753 just 120 degree weather is all, lmao! nah, I love Arizona, one of the most beautiful states, only falling under Colorado and Alaska
Knife laws are genuinely mentally handicapped
Man, those woods are beautiful! Good discussion.
I have that exact PM2 and I love it. I’ve heard people talk about the grip tearing up their pockets but I’ve had zero issues with it. I love the way it looks with the camo and coated blade. I paid 200 for mine but I’m not active military. And thank you for your service buddy. Enjoyed your content.
I think people should get both, if they can. They're just great knives. I think my only complaint, I broke the tip on my Para 2 within the first week of having it.
I did the same within 3 days
Spyderco blades always remind me of the spy vs spy comics from mad magazine
I like the paramilitary 2 i bought one about a month ago and it is the best knife i have it has such great ergonomics
You look 12 go watch the family channel
oh no its over 3 inches... Here in Idaho when you get pulled over the police don't ask you IF you have a weapon in the car.... They ask you how MANY weapons you have in the car..... #constitutionalcarry
I agree with your overall assessment. I would add though that, of course the Para3 isn't going to be quite as good as its larger cousin, but you can carry the para3 in places you can't carry the paramilitary 2. Also, for edc in pants, lot less profile and some less weight on the smaller knife.
What are your thoughts on the handle if you didn't brace the knife with your thumb on the spine? I never brace a knife in this way. Do you feel it has enough room with a straight hammer grip?
I recently got a hogue doug ritter mini,and have found it handles all my edc chores,as well as my larger knives
I'm fairly certain the Para 3's choil is integral to holding it properly, like the Native.
Love them both but right now for me i prefer the Para 3. you can't go wrong with either. Thank's
Jorgen Sandstrom There's no wrong answer for sure. 👍
amazing mindset. your approach to life. renders wonders
Lifeisawheelie Glad you liked it!
Quite a few reviewers complained about the excess handle as opposed to the blade length of the pm2 but I feel it was intentional to give a hard use use knife a much more secure and comfortable grip.
The para3 hotspots my hand almost immediately but I can use the pm2 all day. In Australia you can’t edc a knife regardless of length so the blade length for legal reasons doesn’t come into the argument.
Where it does allow you to edc due to the shorter length, I would be interested to see if the 3 inch blade of the para 3 somehow attached to the longer pm2 handle would go. Not everyone cares about pocket realestate so much that it would matter.
I bought my first spyderco yesterday, i love it!!!! Next is the para military 2..!
Noones pointed out that the Handles different/ Smaller because its suppose to be...the PM2 has a Bigger blade therefore it needs a Bigger handle....
This guy is a dingus.
Great review Marty.
Handle ergo is a huge factor in a knife you use for lengthy periods of time. Thanks for the heads up.
Great review! I'm also more of a fan of the Paramilitary 2 for it's work efficiencies. God Bless.
Back then knifes were actually used for something useful now they’re used to cut cardboard boxes 😂
A utility is the correct tool for cardboard, not your $200 pocket knife. Cardboard will dull your edge faster than anything, it will scratch even the hardest super steel, and prolonged cutting can actually ruin the heat treat of your blade. One slice through cardboard and you can feel the heat coming off the blade. Try it.
I love my PM2 which I use daily. Many people say that the PM3 is a BIG knife. I thought about getting a Para3 but it just a tad too small for me.
I wanna try it but I have the sage 5 and it's just too
Similar... tryin to decide on my next buy... not sure where I'm at yet.. wanna try WE knives
Para 3 is just a smaller version love the review when i put the para 3 in my hand I immediately picked it up that my small finger is off the grip. This is a no go for me. Para 2 still the best unless you have small hands then the para 3 might work for you. Both great knives, well both the same thing.
As far as I'm aware, and I'm a born and bred Vermon'er, the Para2 is completely legal here (in VT). The only knife restrictions we have primarily revolve around OTF or stiletto knives- those are the knives that have to have blades under 3"
Been said by many others here in the comments, but it’s a smaller knife, so of course it has a shorter handle. And pretty much every other reviewer has mentioned this as well.
I wish the PM2 and PM3 had deep carry clips.
I find knives like the delica easier to flush out under water because the backspacer channel the water and that strengthens the flow of the water. A backspacer also is better because it protects the edge of your knife.
I just got the para 3 but I have a spyderco police and love it. I live in Oregon so I can carry most knives.
The floor is made of floor.
there is no restriction on knife blade lengths in Vermont, as long as its not an auto knife.
This is correct. Even a auto knife with a blade length of less then 3" is legal to carry in Vermont.
what do you do in the air force?
Did they mention a left hand version like the pm2, love mine and would love to see a para 3 and a para 3 LW lefty. Good review thanks 🐱
thank you for your service
I heard that quote, or possibly a variation of it, from Gotham. When Falcone gave Jim a knife.
dmp762 Didn't Falcone say that Jim's Father gave that knife to him...? (so he returned it to family)
You broubght up a great point about the "heel" in the handle. That it gives you leverage in cutting. Same holds true for postol grips. In that case ithelps reduce muzzle rise/flip....faster recovery between shots...a good point to keep in mind when trying to decide between the 2 knives..the P3 vs the PM2...will matter. Somethig I think many people are overlooking.
I wear size L gloves...so maybe the PM2 would be a better choice. You (I) don't ever want to buy a product only to regret it later. :) Even if these knives arent't "mega expensive". ..
Good points...and you included cut testing footag...worth doing...
PM2 all day everyday. Though i have a soft spot for the Manix
Good review. I love the paramilitary 2 cause it fits so well in my large hands. What do you do with the cardboard?
hagenoft I think he makes soup out of the scraps.
hagenoft Thanks! I recycle it. My wife is very thankful for my hobby at times. 😂
I wear size XXL to XXXL gloves depending on the brand... would a Para 2 be okay for me or should i go with a Manix 2?
Both would be perfectly fine
I thought that the PM2 had a handle that fit me perfectly, until I recently got a Military. .!! Now I have the complete perfect knife,,, and hope to sell my 2 PM2's,,,
I’ve just bought a PM2. I wanted a smaller Spyderco. The Para 3 is a bit small for me.
Love your videos
Kevin Walsh Thanks for watching!
based on the footage of you cutting cardboard, even though it sped up, your blade is dull as FUCK
Hey I have a great idea. I have at present 4 PM2's. The oldest is black. I think I will grind down the front of the blade to match the P3? And if I screw it up, well heck its worth a try...What U think, just for fun...
Randall Kelley would that cause issues when you close it?
Randall Kelley Go for it. I'd be curious about the results.
I live in RI as well, what part do you live in ?
I wish a reviewer would speak about how it carries in the pocket compared to the pm3... I wanted a p3 but I was disappointed that it's only shorter, not thinner or more narrow. In my mind that means it would feel just as big in the pocket. Do you think my assumptions are true?
JR Quarnberg im not sure if youve gotten your answer yet, but its basically identical to the pm2, just a littlw bit shorter. In my opinion the para3 and pm2 are pretty thin knives honestly. The para3 is a fantastic knife. I have big hands and own both, the para3 is actually a little more comfortable to me, i usually hold it by the choil though
BB favorite 2-3"Big choppers" ?
If processing cardboard is part of your regular job you need to come up with a better more efficient way man. I was at the spyderco booth during shot 2016 showing Sal an original model he sold me when he was just starting and an old guy came up and thanked him for a great knife and said "90% is used for spreading peanut butter and jelly" we all laughed as we went our separate ways and what a profound but true statement. If you want to test a knife prep food with it, cut into a Costco rotisserie chicken and do vegetables slice ham and sausage, clean and prepare fish. And finally spread some peanut butter and jelly on bread, cut a zip tie, open a envelope, or a box from Amazon.
ding174 I don’t understand people who use pocket knives for food preparation at home.
Nathan Stevens I didn’t even know it was a thing till I started watching RUclips knife videos, go figure.
Nathan Stevens I’m sure you’re right.
When I was homeless, my pocket knife was my legitimate utensil - I’m really thankful that now I can just enjoy knife collecting as a hobby and have the luxury of implicating mythical uses to help justify any given knife purchase
Nathan Stevens yeah of course, I just have a blast shoving potential and wildly unlikely situations into my rationale for purchasing. Think collecting with flavor (;
I think it is beyond ridiculous that there are actually laws that prohibit knife lengths or for that matter actually concern themselves with knives.I never ever met a gangbanger actually used a knife for criminal purposes!!!! I think we need reality based laws!!
I didn't Google your quote but was it Lorena Bobbitt?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are Air Force personnel even allowed to carry a Paramilitary 2? Thought those were for the real military...
I would want them to beef up the tip just a little bit like they did in the Native Chief. That would make the Para 2 perfect. Not much, just a tad.
So the smaller knife has a smaller handle interesting. I’ve got 5 of each in various blade steels and sprint runs and never noticed the smaller one having a smaller handle.
Why does it matter if its slip join or not in Europe?
I believe that quote was from Gotham, it's what falcone said to Gordan
The bladehq review mentioned the scales
The para 3 blade tip is not centered with the handle which drives my ocd nuts and makes me hate it.
Mine is perfectly dead centered. Each knife is different because each is individually assembled.
@@1allspub Not talking about when it's closed. Speaking of when the blades are out. Look at the tip on the para 3 vs the paramilitary 2 when the blades are out. The para 3 blade tip is lower while the paramilitary 2 is dead center.
Nick Shabazz mention the handle difference in his review
the canadien guy I watched his review and he didn't mention how big of a difference the handle makes in use. Everyone has touched on the handle's shape change but I don't remember him or anyone else saying why that's important.
BudgetBugout I still like watching your videos, it wasn't supposed to be an insult, just observation
the canadien guy I wasn't insulted. Sorry if I came across that way. I rewatched his vid and yeah there's no mention of how the handle changes the feel of the knife. I paid close attention to the bad and the ugly portion as well. He's a great reviewer but I don't think he's put it through its paces.
yup, I saw it there first too ! I like both channels though ;)
Para 3 vs Sage 5?
I'm Dutch and there's nothing against locking knives in here
The gov pays you to cut up cardboard? No wonder our taxes r so high
Are you serious, it's self explanatory ,, it's a smaller knife. And also Para is short for paramilitary and 3 refers to blade length .
I have the para 3. Tried spyderco after owning benchmades, ZTs, etc. It was by far the worst in edge retention. I’m tough on all my folders. After a few months it had chips in the blade edge. I really wanted to like the para I love the style and feel but durability is average in my experience.
Thats S30V for ya.
Try it with the s45vn steel man.. I have the manix 2 with s30v and the material is trash imo
@@los0160 Nice. I’ll give it a go. I love the spyderco design.
none of these guys knife guys actually mentioned that the para 3 has a pressed backspacer.
Para 3 vs Para 2. Manix 2 xl wins
phht. M2XL is a pig in yr pocket.
audible67 sage 5 sorry
Budget, favorite steels money no object?
Pro/cons?
If the blade is smaller then the handle will be smaller, not sure why one would have to mention the obvious. Ones a full size while the other is a compact.
Shorter blade=shorter handle. Choke up and no problem.
Come on Spyderco give us a PM4 like a Military size or bigger with compression lock. Please please please!!!
do you not take apart your knives?
you deserve more subs.
You're too kind! :)
why you cut all that card board into small pieces?
All knife guys hate card board. also paracord
Tip breakers are deal breakers.👍
Is the Air Force really "active duty military" tho...? Jk. Thank you for your service
ha price change with the season of the Moon ur funny but it true rite knife prices fluctuate alot now days
I prefer Para 3 because the cops in NJ can't make up their mind when it comes to knife laws. Some say I can't carry. Some say anything below 4 inches. others say below 3 inches. And then you wonder why cops are hated.
I got the para 3 and live in Jersey but it wasn't so much a legal thing as I'm usually carrying smaller knives, i.e,., Delica length or shorter.
Never been hassled by cops for a knife since i was in college... that was a tiny buck knockoff with a two inch blade. He only knew I was carrying it because I was trying to be a good citizen and told him. Big mistake.
Though to be fair the cops don't make b.s. rules. I don't hate the cops but I do loath legislators.
Old video but omg. 3 is smaller.
SO WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LIKE THE PARA 2, PARA 3, AND MANIX 2 MORE THAN THE BENCHMADE FOLDERS? DETAILS APPRECIATED.
Gwailotus F the police BM 940 for me and I’m in Cali it’s all about where you live in Cali that’s funny tho your right I can walk around with a butter knife but not 3.5 lol 😂
@@spyderg6509 - have u owned or tried out other benchmades like griptilian etc and spyderco para 2, para 3, manix 2 before choosing the BM940?
Gwailotus I own them all plus more like the sages was etc..
What does "a knife is a friend when you have no other" mean
Im DOPEY it means that a knife is a reliable friend when you don't have a friend in a time of need
Im DOPEY I think your name is quite fitting
........moron
Evident: SPYDERCO has gone "wimpy" with the "3", and will lose some loyalty. I shudder to think what the "4" will look, and feel like.
Thank you Sir, for your insight on with this review. Great "pickup".
But the para 3 isnt a para military 3...
Wait a smaller knife has a shorter handle? Next thing you know you’ll say it has a shorter blade too. I wonder why people wouldn’t point out something obvious like a shorter knife has a shorter handle? I bet subcompact cats are smaller than full size cars, can you check RUclips and see if anyone has felt it’s necessary to point that out
I'm sorry. I'm sure it's a great knife but that price is crazy!
Steve Sanders true
Steve Sanders
On a positive note... once you buy a high end knife, you are very unlikely to have to buy another.
That is until you loose the one you bought, then you're stuck having to buy more high end knives.
Solution.... stop loosing your high end knives. 😃
OOTurok I wish I had that sort of self control. I can't stop buying high end knives.
OOTurok
.......and sunglasses!
Made in the USA, you want cheap you buy from China.
don't point that knife at me
looked like that cute dog approves of the para 3
Kaylynn Strain lol yeah he likes to go on my adventures
isn't that quote from batman, gordon?
Im shore your right. Its an impressive knif! My greetings from Brussels (Belgium)
In the marines we can carry any knife we want.. matter of fact OEF 2 they gave us microtechs
paramilitary 2 is the perfect knife
😯WOW!!!😯 This is the most informative but yet down to earth review I’ve seen so far! Most RUclips reviewers just banter and talk about their collection of knives, blah, blah, blah. I really like how you kept straight to the point and reviewed just the pros and cons without prolonged bashing. Just like the previous comment that you are the real version, not a wannabe in uniform. A product review of this category should be between 5-10 minutes long. If it’s over 20 minutes then it’s too long. Better practice what I preach, so I’ll stop bantering too. Thank you for the great review and your service!!! God protect us all!!!
About the UKPK, in London the Bobbies took away me buddies UKPK. As he said, they nicked him for it at a concert. Like don't take it to a concert??? I think it depends what one is doing, and where they do it. Oh well....Just saying..
Randall Kelley I took a victorious SD to my college on my keychain and I got suspended and it confiscated by the police... I had it on there for 2 years. this country is a mess
Randall Kelley Yeah pretty much every country takes knives at large events. I don't agree with it either.
Why compare 2 completely different models. It’s the para 3 not paramilitary. It’s different name is there for a reason
Here in the UK the PM 3 is a whopping £40 ($49.94) more than the PM 2 - WTF is that all about? As far as I'm concerned Spyderco can stick it where the sun don't shine!
paul greenwood that's the retailer choosing to charge more, not Spyderco. Here in Canada the Para 3 is less than the standard PM2.
bigpoppa578
I contacted my UK retailer (Heinnie) AND Spyderco directly and they both blame each other for the large difference.
Stoney Lonsome
That makes a lot of sense. Shame because I've been buying from Heinnie for some years now and never had a problem before, Thanks for responding.
Stoney Lonsome msrp=manufacturers suggested retail price, not maximum. big difference
There is another possibility here. With Brexit and the associated turmoil, the pound PLUMMETED. If that dealer is selling pre-brexit para2s, they may not have updated their prices to reflect the weak pound. The Para3s however can't be old inventory, they have to have been acquired recently, so have to have been bought with the comparatively weak pounds thus the higher price. The result? You can see a para3 for sale for a lot more money than the para2s.
As an aside, while I can't disclose the details of how, I do have some insight into the workings of spyderco's pricing. The para3's cost to dealers is very slightly lower than that of the para2. For all intents and purposes though, they're basically the same price. The para3 wasn't made to be cheaper, it was made to fill that void for people requiring a sub 3" knife, because a bunch of wankers and politicians and organizations for dumb reasons use 3" as an arbitrary cutoff.
Pick one 2 or 3 ?
TheIrcbully I'd choose 2
2
Your information at 1:17 is incorrect. VT law does not restrict blade length on manual folders. Only automatic knives. Also, Navy is better than Air Force. :P J/k, stay safe out there. - EA-18G maintainer
para 3 seems wider and shorter... looks more comphy
Spyderco para3, i think that it's sexy shape than para2.
The quote is from Gotham.
does spyderco let their customers send in their knives for sharpening? really want to buy something other then kershaw but kershaw let's you send all knives back to be sharpened as much as you want
Matthew May yes they do. I just got my Native back from them. It was $5 to cover return shipping.
Awesome thanks! ! That has been the only thing stopping me from making my purchase of the paramilitary 2
Matthew May I have made the change from Kershaw to Spyderco and won't be looking back. just like they way they carry and the way they fit in the hand.
Tired of close-up frames. Try more medium shots.