Spyderco Para 3 VS Benchmade Bugout - Which Is REALLY Better?
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You sound like all 3
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Benchmade is nice, but damn, the ergonomics on that Spyderco are on point! It feels as if Spyderco makes their knives to fit perfectly into my hand. I'll take Spyderco over Benchmade any day.
As someone who also owns both knives, the Bugout wins for me all day. I love the Para 3 in hand but hate it in the pocket. The Bugout feels great both ways and is more customizable. Not saying you are wrong by any means. Just my $.02
I went to a knife store today with the intention to buy a bugout. I never handled one, and I’ve never owned a spyderco or handled one for that matter. I walked away with a Para 3 g10 with CPM s45vn. The bugout just felt so cheap to me, too light. They’re beautiful, but I personally don’t like them. I get why people do, I just don’t.
I picked up both, couldn’t decide. I put copper scales on the bugout and titanium on the para 3. Love them both!
I have the cf bugout and the para 3 and the para3 leightweight . i prefer the bugout
I like the look, blade shape, lock style and weight of the bugout. But the Para 3 has a finger choil and I love the versatility of having a finger choil.
Excellent video. Both knives are excellent for EDC. Personally I think the Para 3 is easier to mod. You get used to dealing with the lanyard hole. The pocket clip from the Para 3 is a great tool to use to pry the G10 scales off of the knife. I think the Para 3 has more options for modification. Knives Plus offers acid stone washing for the blade. DLT Trading, Knives Plus, Sharp Dressed Knives, RGT and Metin Boss offer excellent scales for the Para 3 one of the best tips for the Para 3 is to sand the lanyard hole on new scales. It helps the lanyard hole fit better. It is a ton of fun to customize both knives. And it is wort the effort to have a EDC knife that is uniquely your own
Looking to purchase one or the other and a big thing for me working in the trades is the durability. I’m not trying to pull the blade out and it possibly crapping the bed on me because of a faulty spring. Thank you for your video. Going with the PM3 and getting a deep carry pocket clip to pair with it
I love these battles and you are Slicey Dicey are two of my new favorite gear reviewers 👍. I just discovered you guys, recently. I just got my first I own a couple bugouts and I really do love the design. I have one in its regular configuration and one with aluminum after market scales and I really love the scales. They only cost $60. Now the para 3 is the one with the S35 steel and the desert tan scales and satin blade I really love that one as well. I got a Casey Lynch deep carry titanium clip colt , bronze and you’re correct zero hot spots for the most part. I really think I’m keeping both knives. I will say I like the aesthetics of the para 2 a little better than the 3 . I think maybe they could make the para 3 blade a little more streamline, just a little. I do like the para 3 more then I thought I would. Spyderco knock it out of the park on this one. Anyway, great content as usual 👍!
GU high love
I like the para 3 better. Maxamet is sweet but can chip. Had a small chip on the top of spine on the tip. Tip is intact but I had to sand the spine down slightly to blend it back in. Would’ve gone with m390 if I could go back. Para 3 all the way tho. Much bigger than I expected as well. Love it. My rotation is the kapara, para 3, and Sonoma
Para 3 all the way...
Yea
I love both, they each have better points so I just carry both at the same time. Good vid
I love both and can say there are aftermarket Omega springs for the Bugout that are better, that are inexpensive, so the spring in the end may not be a grading factor. I carry both. Depends on my mood 🤪
I’ve never handled a Bugout. But I’m riding with the Para 3! I think it’s mainly the hole that’s got me sold.
I do want a bugout though.
I would like to see a parts list for the bugout build looks like aftermarket axis bar as well.
I'm a lefty and went with the black/black s30v para3..what killed the bugout for me was the firstly the position of the thunbstuds being too close to the handle for me to comfortably operate..the para 3 just feels better especially because of the 50/50 choil and i prefer spyderco's pivot assembly.soo much easier to dial in 😉
I go para3 because I don’t even wanna worry about the POTENTIAL of the omega springs breaking in a benchmade.
Anyone else think that Spyderco is like the Glock of knives 🤔? Kinda ugly but you know it will work every time
That’s exactly what I said. Lol. It makes much more sense to go with pm3 or pm2. Lol. I get that the bugout is a great knife but… the springs. Eventually they will get weak and break then your screwed if you are in a survival situation
I think the paramilitary series are beautiful knives. Now some other spyderco knives are just super ugly. Lol. But that’s what makes em stand out!
I think glocks are highly overrated personally and so long as you CLEAN AND MAINTAIN YOUR GUNS damn near any gun is as reliable as a glock but to each there own
best comment ever
I work very hard, and now I know it's because I'm ugly!! I might need a blade after coming to that realization. lol
My wife would kill me if I had 5 knives. All of you edc guys that have multiple knives are so lucky
Ty for reminding me how awesome my wife is. She supports my new knife hobby. Much cheaper than my pew pew hobby. Just started a few months ago. Been getting at least 1 knife a week 🤫
I still have the original pocket clip on my para3 and it doesn’t bother me at all. It’s tough enough for I kno it’s not gonna fall out, and I personally like having a little more of the knife to grab onto when I go to pull it out of my pocket
Same 💯
Also having the clip slightly further down makes the knife much more comfortable to hold.
Deep carry clips are nice, but for a real working knife the Spydie clips are great.
I just picked up a Bugout jade G-10 in 20cv, I've had it for about a week now and its taken the place of my s35vn para2.. The thin-ness in the pocket is noticeable for me.. I am more of a spydie fan and I love the gimping on the para knifes, but the benchmade caught my eye initially with the cool scales
Great comparison vid! Could you please provide a link to the deep carry clip you have on your para 3? Thanks! Bob
Most people are going with MXG gear or Casey Lynch 👊
I have both of these knives, it is difficult to chose one because I love them both. But gun to my head it would be the Para 3 simply because I’ve had a omega spring failure and unless you have had one you don’t understand how much it sucks. So the deciding factor is the dependability of the Para 3.
So what’s the difference between the pm2 and the para 3? Also does Spyderco offer a sharpening service for there knives?
Very thorough. Nice job!
I'm glad you brought that up, because mine broke lol I've only had it for about 5 months. So how often should I be oiling my knife? And yes Benchmade's warranty is Awesome they fixed it and it's on the way back to me:)) and boy do I miss it lol.
How you like the new scales on the bugout?
lost my first spyderco para 3 a week ago at the beach. been carrying that knife for years. decided to check out other knifes when I went to purchase. it was between these two knives. decided to buy another para 3. the GOAT in my opinion. Ill buy the bugout as a secondary knife cause it is a good looking knife.
Scored a maxamet para3 from the factory second sale and have a CF Elite Bugout coming in next week. I’ll finally catch up to 2017 and can finally compare for myself.
I do like the para3 a lot so far, but still prefer the pm2
I watched reviews and googled the shit out of my phone.
The point i came to an conclusion was as i searched:
Benchmade issues
Spyderco issues
Jup... i will buy the para.
I have both of these knives and I think the Bugout looks better, but if I had to pick between the two, I'd go with the PM3 for simplicity and fidget factor.
Para 3 is definitely my pick out the 2 and I own both. But like both of them
I have the 535 and I really don’t like it that much mainly because of the axis lock I’ve had the knife for 6 months and already broke an omega spring and it’s a pain in the ass to switch out.
Still curious about the Benchmade Barrage. Never had one because I have 5 Griptilians and I prefer manual to assisted, but I can be reasonable. Is it a good tool?
Hey, I just wanted to add my 2 cents in on the barrage. I agree with you on the assisted vs manual open. I had a barrage that sat in a drawer for 10 years because I didn’t like the assisted open. I’m not to the age where I need assistance opening my knife...👍
This was an incredibly good video. Answered all my questions, in a way a knife moron like me could understand. Thank you!
Excellent presentation , thanks.
I love your mod to the bugout. Have you created a video showing how to do that? I definitely want your scales on my bugout
Look up “bench made bugout flytanium scales” hope this helps..
Just got my first para 3 recently and watching the video three years later it’s interesting to see them still being a staple and the price differences over the years
Man, I just picked up my first one today. Got it for 145 (retail was 189) because they price matched some old website I found. S45Vn steel. And man do I love it. there is just something about it. I think I'm a Spyderco guy now.
The omega spring broke on my first Benchmade knife. It was a Mini Ruckus in S30V that I bought in about 2005. The spring broke in 2017. Maybe it would have broken sooner if I'd used it more? I don't know, but I still like Benchmade.
Dang 12 years. That's pretty good
I broke the omega springs on my Bugout, mostly due to over fidgeting 😂. I took the opportunity to swap the scales to G10, and love the knife even more. Thinking of getting the Para 3 for camping and not risk breaking omega springs during an extended trip, while still keeping the Bugout as my EDC 😊
I have both, and much prefer the benchmade. Allthough Im not sure about the springs in the lock and how well they will hold up. Its not a knife i would want in a bugout situation, thats for sure. But its so much lighter than the para, and can do the same job. And in my experience, the edge holds up better.
I want a para 3 so freaking bad. I love you Mr. Metal Complex ✌🏻
How wide is the para 3 closed from top of spydie hole to bottom of the scales
I don't know if this is something that others care about, but personally I value the steel choice in the Para 3. Outside of the Gold Class, you are stuck with S30V on a bugout. The Para 3 is available in CTS-BD1N, S30V, S35VN, S110V, Maxamet, and many other sprint runs that can be found on the secondary market. Personally I love the way carbon steels age and patina, especially when paired with micarta scales. I hope to do this with a Maxamet Para 3 someday soon (and get a bronze lanyard tube so I don't have to worry about the crappy stock one). I have yet to see any bugouts in anything other than S30V (barring the prohibitively expensive Gold Class)
They did a Bugout in 20cv but it didn't last long 👊
You can get the Bugout in 20CV, S90V and M4 sprint runs, and you can get it in all three at any time by ordering custom from their website. Benchmade doesn’t do as many sprint runs as Spyderco though, but sometimes that’s a good thing considering how quickly sprint runs sell out and how short they run, it’s like they make all this cool shit that you can’t have unless you buy on release before it has been reviewed (performance, heat treat, etc.) or pay a premium like the ridiculous $300+ some places were charging for the CRUWEAR sprint runs after week 1 when everyone started praising it.
I have the s45vn and the BD1N, although BD1n is a bit outdated imo .But that is something i do care about as you do , although also imo s30v is the best all around blade steel available , for practical use purposes
I cannot wait, I have the Para 3 in Maxamat coming in to me. I do like the Bugout though. I will be getting a backspacer and yellow G10 scales for it. I will get CF scales and backspacer with anodized titanium fasteners for the Para 3. I love that I can make them unique to my tastes.
A Mac R.B.R.T bit will prevent stripping and also remove stripped screws, most of the time.
I like my para 3 better
But the problem is, I also like my bugout better.
Hey MC, Are those Grey G-10 scales on your P.M. 2 ?
its a para 3 its maxamet steel comes with grey g10 scales. its about $200
I have both. Without a doubt they are both great knives. If I had to pick only one, the para 3 slightly out edges the bugout.
The egonomics are better but a cf s90v bugout edges out the para 3 on days i want to carry the finer things in life .scotch instead of whiskey that day
Pm3 all day. Buyout has a weakness the omega spring can break. And stuff can get jammed up inside of the bugout. Pm3 make much more sense. Just my opinion
Great video !!
Where did you get the pocket clip for the bugout?????
It's a benchmade standard deep carry clip 👍
Just bought my first para 3. Coming in tomorrow. So i wil find out!
Did you get the maxamet ? How do you like it? I just ordered one tonight
@@GBall_Vision got the regular S30v one, and that’s a fine steel. Its great, ergonomics in hand are the best I experienced I guess. But the cutting edge is just a bit short to my personal preference, so I do see a PM2 in the future. But the P3 has earneda place in my EDC top 3, other two being Grip S20 and the 940.
Enjoy yours!
Wondering how this maxamet works btw. 🤔
I don't have either one, but have held both, and out of the box (and I don't mod), I'd go with a para 3 as it doesn't feel like a plastic trainer knife.
Thanks for the comparison.
I know, right. The bugout feels like it was made by Fisher Price.
@@sharpwhits0167, exactly. It's probably great in Ti, or if there were SS scales, would give it some meatiness.
They were designed for different things. You're comparing apples to oranges.
@@evictioncarpentry2628, I get that, also personal preference and feel.
Not really. I'd say more like apples to slightly different apples. They're both edc knives.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I have had both knives, and for ease of use the para 3 wins. The bugout is a great knife, your mods are awesome. I like both the compression and axis locks. If I had to pick one, I’d go for the axis lock for the fidget fun factor. That’s not to say there’s anything wrong with a compression lock though. Excellent vid as always 👍
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Both omega springs broke on my 3 month old 940...
I did not use it that hard, and still...
Bad luck?
Bad luck for sure. I'm going on 10 years and 30+ Benchmades with zero failures.
The blue bugout was the first "high end" knife I ever purchased. It was almost the last. I thought, "Wow, I paid how much for this?" It felt so cheap and flimsy. I'm sure it's a good knife but just wasn't for me. For about $15 more I could get a para 3 with g10 and it doesn't feel like a Fisher Price toy. I could have purchased aftermarket scales that might have helped, but spending another $65-80 to outfit a $120 knife is like buying a $2,500 car and putting $1000 rims. Didn't make sense to me when I can get what I want for just a few dollars more.
So, what does that say for a 940? Since Bugout plus aftermarket scales comes out less than that sometimes. Depending on the scales. Same blade steel and slicier blade on the bugout
super Test 👍ich habe Beide, aber immer das Benchmade in my Pocket , das passt besser in die Jeanstasche🤣
I originally bought the Para 3 because of the full metal liners. After 2 years with it, i dont like the blade shape at work. I continue to carry it because it takes all the torque and abuse I give it. I got a green/black Bugout last year and I much prefer that blade shape, but when using it at work, I feel it twisting in hand with the FRN handles and I dont enjoy it there. It is a great weekend worker for me. Maybe with those Flytanium scales Id enjoy it more as a EDC work knife too.
Ive had 3 pocket clips that have broken on my Para 3 so far. I dont even remember which one I have on it now, but it is sturdy and doesnt bend at all. I also added the Wiseman Fang because I like the Wave opening. I do enjoy the Axis lock more than the compression lock too.
As far as the S30v, my Para 3 tends to chip, and the Bugout edge rolls. Both are easy enough to sharpen on the Spyderco sharpening set I have.
I have the Para 3 LW and the Bugout. I tend to carry the Bugout way more. I've never owned another version of the Para 3 but I would probably carry it more if it had G10 scales. I really like the blade shape of the Bugout too.
Ive tried and tried to get used to the axis lock but i just dont like it. I choose Spyderco any day of the week.
Both are nice but have flaws for the price to me. Is there another alternative competition that’s maybe better?
I have thousands spent on knives and the para 3 lightweight has been my favorite edc I have ever owned.
I own both but I seem to carry my blackout bugout more. It takes up less pocket space with a bit more blade.
I love the Hogue Deka much better than the bug out... Now I'm in a quandary about it or the para 3 in s45vn...
Bugout is definitely better in pocket, but I am Para 3 (or PM2) all day every day. I had 17 BM knives with Axis locks…940s, Bugouts, and Mini Bugouts; 7 ended up with broken Omega springs and it wasn’t from using one sided activation of the Axis lock….don’t think I’ll ever own another Benchmade Axis lock knife…ever…unless they’d actually send out replacement springs instead of having to ship the knife and wait.
Had to get a para3 LW it's a nice knife but the action on my bugout is way better I'll use my para3 for things l don't won't to mess my Bugouts up with..The bd1n is a good bit faster to sharpen for me Great comparison 👍👊
Action is better on the bugout and what is up with that carry clip on the lightweight ? thing is flimsy. I like them both though
Bugout is my choice. It's one of my favorite knives. I do want a Para 3 with G10 scales though. Mine is the LW version.
I'm a huge spyderco guy, with that being said. I would take thr bugout over the Para 3 any day, reason is.. the bugouts lock is easier to manipulate one handed, better factory clip, very slim foot print, ultra light. And the neutral handle ergonomics lend themselves to my large hands better than the more sculpted para 3.
I have some rockscale design titanium scales for my bugout, and flytanium titanium scales for my Para 3. I gotta say, the bugout after a scale swap is a perfect EDC knife.
I’ve broken 3 sets of omega springs. I habitually flip my Bugout open and closed. Usually an hour or more a day. At that rate the springs will last 3+ weeks before they break. That’s the reason for multiple sets used. Completely on me.
I have both the bugout and para 3 lightweight and I love them both but if I had to pick I’d do with the bugout.
I'm probably one of the few people who think that para 3 looks much better
Well they werent really made for the eye but more for the practical use :) but i love it too, awesome knife!
Lol. Big girls need love too Craig.
Ironic. I was playing with my S110V Para 3 when I chanced upon this video. I guess it's clear which of these two I would choose.
I went to a knife shop today and checked out the Bugout and Bugout mini and they felt way too light and flimsy to me. That is why I prefer the Griptilian. I like the heft and size of it in my hand. Just feels more sturdy and substantial.
My griptilian feels strong but the plastic feels brittle and has a couple hot spots , I like the mini adamas or the grizzley ridge a little better but something about the griptilian keeps it in my rotation
Can’t you G-10 scales for the Grip?
Which one wins? Neither. Own them both. My edc rotation is 1901 bugout, 52100 para 3, mantra 2, blurple nat 5 lw and 940-1501. Love all. Bought DLT para 3 lw and its not near the knife of the para 3 52100.
spydie all day. good pick
I got a black out bug out and love how light it is, perfect for wearing with my short in hot days. I wanna mod it in micarta scales
I can an do operate my Para 3 left handed, being predominantly right handed I find no issue operating the compression lock with my left thumb.
Try it, to me it is easier
Wow all the hoopla about the Para 3 clip. If you actually use your knife and make aggressive cuts, the standard para 3 clip vanishes in your hand. The deep carry puts a nice hot spot in the back if your palm. Leave the standard clip on and big deal if a little more sticks out if your pocket. Easier to get out.
Like 6 oz. In my back pocket and i dont even notice it. Carry my shaman in my back pocket. Things a tank. Never notice it. I own both these knives... im a through and through spyderco guy any day of the week. I carry the bugout more than my pm3. Not sure why. But i do.
Broke my omega springs after only 3 months of owning the M390 Bugout with aluminum scales. Still prefer it over my PM2.
Great video! I have both and I couldn’t agree with you more, Para 3 for the win!
1.86 Oz. Sir on the Bugout :))
plz do a review of bench made 535bk-4
Para 3 for me. Feels way sturdier
I own 3 bugouts and a pm2, i dont own a pm3. That being said i absolutely love my bugouts for certain tasks but i love my pm2 for other tasks. I carry a bugout and para 2 every day. Certain places i wont pull the para for fear of looks from normies when that big marlin spike deploys lol. Illuse the bugout for when im in places or around people , where pulling a smaller more " pocket knife" looking blade wont draw too much unwanted attention.
When im cutting bigger shit or just in places where people dont give a fuck about a knife being pulled out and used as a tool, ill use the para 2. If i had to pick only 1 i guess id say para 2 cause its a tank and more useful overall. But i do love my bugouts lol
Where did you get the pocket clip you had on the bug out?
I own both and I absolutely love both I own several benchmades and several spydercos among alot of other great knives like zero.tolerance and Kershaw and civivi and crjb
whatup daniel, Just got me my first civivi, for a china knife its pretty nice
@@ScoopsTV wut up buddy yea man civivi is pretty nice I know a couple myself hope all is well
Para 3 is cooler and grabs the eye. Bug out is super plain and if you asked the average guy to guess the price of the bugout i promise they are saying under 50 lol. Obviously enthusiasts are aware of the quality of the bug out and BOTH are awesome but i ended up going with the para 3. Awesome comparison video btw learned alot
Ps i hate the lanyard hole on the para 3
The Bugout doesn’t come with Flytanium scales as an option, but it’s an aftermarket option.
Who is this comment for? I know that because I installed them, and my audience knows that because I said it in the video 🤔
Hey there MC. Don't have a Bugout or a Para 3 but I do have two full sized Griptilians one Mini Griptilian and one Mini Freek and I'd like to share my experiences with omega springs.
The mini Griptilian was two days shy of being a month old when both omega springs broke. Weird, I know, but true. Sent it to Benchmade (on my dime) and they fixed the problem and quickly returned the repaired knife to me. Approximately two months later, one of its omegas broke and after notifying Benchmade of the situation, they had me send the knife to them on their dime. They quickly fixed and returned the knife back to me.
Now, I'm a retired/disabled 64 year old, old bastard and the hardest use any of my knives see is opening mail and packages (mostly knife packages). I do however fidget with them A LOT on a daily basis but none of my knives are abused in any way unless you consider fidgeting to be abuse. As of today, the omegas on the mini Griptilian are doing fine, (knock on wood)
Recently, the mini Freek broke one of its omegas and after sending it in (on my dime) Benchmade repaired and returned it and, so far so good. LOVE the action on my Mini Freek. It is truly drop shutty.
Now, after having related my problems with broken omega springs, you'll notice that in both instances, the knives were minis. The two full sized Griptilians (one with the Spydie hole and the other with thumb studs) have wonderful actions and have never given me any problem despite (probably) more than their fair share of fidget time.
While speaking with a Benchmade rep on the phone, I asked if there was a difference between the omegas in their full sized versus the minis. She told me that was proprietary info so she simply couldn't say one way or the other.
Sorry for writing a novel here but I wanted to share my experience with omega springs which is probably not typical. I'm sure most people will never experience a broken omega but, if they do, Benchmade will quickly rectify the problem.
Anyway, keep up the good work MC. Really enjoy watching your videos. Have a good one (or several if possible).
I got the para 3 lightweight and don’t mind the frn on that. But I can see how the bugout scales would be more “edgy” I guess.
The para 3 LT is in cts bd1n not s30v
I own both but at the end of the day I can do whatever I want with my bugout and know I’m covered by an actual real lifetime warranty.
Damn they’ve gone way up my s110 para3 was 215 and maxamet was $240
I agreee para 3 and I own a para 3 and a bugout I watched this video Bc I’m thinking of getting another bugout that’s more rigid feeling and I decided ima go with it I like lines of the bugout more and I’m used to it’s deployment more then iam the para 3 so ima go with the bugout but overall I can’t deny para 3 I’m jus a bit more biased
considering the bugout in s30v with literally no liners and plastic scales is the same price as a para 3 with liners and g10 scales in s45vn it’s literally a no brainer
The only thing I do not like about spider CO paramilitaries are the tips they look way too thin
I do love the bugout but definitely the para 3
Sometimes I think that Spyderco is deliberately NOT changing the design and placement of their standard pocket clips so that the aftermarket sales from LynchNW / MXG would continue to fuel the frenzy for more Spyderco knives in the future, kind of like a self-feeding loop.
Its like the para 4 is just the para 3 with no lanyard hole and proper clip placement
Metal Complex there is the new 20cv and g10 bugout that was just released last week. I'm another vote for the bugout. I added carbon fiber scales to mine for cooler office carry status.
Para 3 Light Weight is also available in Spy 27