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#1 -- "Siren" -- 1:14 -- 7 friends are walking in a New Zealand forest when they suddenly hear a siren
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If a siren goes off while walking to a forest I'm turning around lol.
I've seen a flight attendant, talking about any siren that she may hear in the plane, and the comment thread in it complain that the flight attendant will have the context for it. While this is true, these guys are a bit brain dead for not realizing that if you hear a siren, no matter what it is about, that if it is really fuckin loud, you get the fuck out. Like, fuck the context. Even if the siren wasn't directed towards me or anyone down there, hearing something so loud would make me leave fast. It really doesn't take that much common sense to know when you have to fucking leave an area. But apparently, for some people, they still need more than 2 brain cells for that..
My paranoid ass would think of Siren Head and freak out
Common sense, it's gotta be common enough for it to be common sense. First off plenty enough ppl don't actually like hiking in forest vibes, plenty. How r u supposed to know what u don't. I'd assume cops should bc maybe the patrol those areas from time to time. But bug a "city folk" as the "country folk" into going to be 1 w/ nature. Ur not gonna know how to take sirens. Question it at most but you're still not gonna know. Till ur buddy that knows better... Tells u. I hear sirens, I just think of clubs & hip hop music. In nature, no, I don't think a party will break out. But until now, I wouldve have not known what a siren meant out in nature. Still not gonna go walking into a horror movie anytime soon tho. But I once did swim in a idek what u call em. A quarry. I'm still ok. @@skaynne54
But what if you were already going the right way?
But the siren may be warning you not to turn around
Who the heck steals a warning sign that's meant to help save people from injury and death, that's really such a shame for the women who lost her life
Probably either a teenager wanted a cool thing to hang on his bedroom wall, or an actual psychopath. No different than stealing a stop sign from a 4 way intersection. Some sick puppies out there.
This is some jschlat fan bullshittery
Tbh I don't know , my friend also steals Stop signs , warning signs , danger signs and decorates his room with them. I don't fuckin know why.
*woman
@@mhd9688 you should show them this video and the very real consequences of those actions have
I was friends with Rachael. She was a model student, friend and person. She was a prefect, and was both intelligent and very athletic.Truly one of the nicest and most beautiful people I knew, inside and out. And yes she died attempting to rescue her friend. She was only 21 and had so much promise for her future. Her funeral filled out a hall with over 100 people who attended. I can't believe this local story has made it to this channel all these years later. Rip Rachael ❤
Wow. I didn’t know you were friends with her, but I know how it feels to lose a loved one.
She clearly wasn't bright at all. Literally would have lived had she not jumped in rushing water. Women have no accountability I swear.
Quit lying
@@ObviousRisesI mean damn you not wrong🤧
@@leisurelife5331 uh ok
Not a lot of people would jump in after their friend. Rachel was a great person for doing that and it’s really sad that she was the one who lost her life. 😢
Agreed when I heard she had already been safe but jumped back in just in case she could do anything at all what an amazing soul a true friend may she rest in peace
And It was her Idea to go there?...Fate.
nah, she's an idiot
Yeah.
would she have survived if she had a life jacket
*TIP: Big Sirens, such as air raid sirens can go off once per day as a test that they always work. If you hear one single siren go off and then nothing, its probably nothing.*
*If you here it go off more then once, or it just keeps going, then its always something real. Prolonged siren or repeating sirens always mean real danger!*
Sirens exist for a reason, dont take them for granted.
A quick guide (i used to be really interested in sirens, please correct me):
~20 seconds: probably a test, but keep listening
~1+ minutes solid tone (excluding wind up and down): alert, used for natural disasters and other things of similar nature
~1+ minutes of wavering pitch: ATTACK: used for extreme disaster warning, and fire.
30s--2 minutes of a HARSH alternating pitch(hi-lo): mostly used for fires.
Harsh Pulsing sound: just exists, doesnt really mean anything to my knowledge
Don't count on it. A storm or war action can knock out a siren. Know why it goes dead!
@@johnchestnut5340 I believe if such thing would happen, then it will definitely be obvious.
@leoleo1035 You clearly haven't been in such storms. It is rare. But it happens. There are also false alarms when the wind throws around small objects tricking the automation . Again rare, but it happens.
in a modern world: if you hear a siren and are not sure what that means consider improving your safety situation (get out of obvious danger zones) and give google a go as to what that siren means
My dad always taught me from an early age to ask the locals before going into any form of nature in the area. Thanks, dad!
I feel like there's a story behind your username.
Smart! I don’t know why that thought never occurred to me. Will definitely keep that in mind when traveling!
I was strolling with a friend near the dried up river bed near a dam when a siren blew off. Even though it was menacing and we tried to get away , we were still walking in wrong direction untill a local came running to us and asked us to move to higher ground instead of that direction. We immediately complied and just like this, after third siren, water gushed like anything. It was spectacular from afar but had we been in the area we were walking in, I would definitely not have survived since I don't even know swimming.
if you don't see anyone near, don't go near. the locals know
Back in the 90s, pre internet. I did a lot of climbing in the Cascades. Visited the Colorado Front Range. Was going to hike Long's Peak the next day and asked a ranger at Rocky Mountain National Park about local objective hazards. He said be below treeline by noon due to regular and daily afternoon thunderstorms.
Took his advice and started my hike before dawn. Was descending and approaching the treeline by 11am. Sure enough, sometime after 12, storms began rolling in.
Had I not asked, I would have started much later and been on the summit when the storms started. Though I had technical climbing experience and Long's Peak was relatively easy for me, that bit of local knowledge was critical and could have avoided a dangerous situation.
The fact that she does trying to save her friend is truly a way to go. RIP hero. 🕊️
It was foolish
@@POIUYTREWQ62I mean imagine one of your close friends/ relatives being swept away right in front if you. Wouldn’t you try to do something?
I can understand why she jumped in, I don’t think it was foolish. In the heat if the moment it probably seemed like the right thing to do. RIP to her.
@@Shavings_of_eraser Exactly.
I can't believe they stayed in the water after the water started rising! It would suddenly click in my mind why there were sirens.
learning that the warning sign had been stolen angered me SO much
It reminds me of the story of the family that got trapped on a service Rd in the mountains because some jackass decided it'd be a funny idea to break the lock and leave the gate open.
@N why? I can only guess that without previous knowledge of the area, they maybe assumed after the first warning resulted in nothing that the sirens were only a test practice?
same and I love your pfp
who knows if it was rly stolen, maybe they just told that
@@christophermueller9764 name or link?
She put her life at risk to save a friend and ended up being the only fatality. That's very sad. If she would of only cared about herself she'd still be here. Jumping in that strong current to save a friend shows a lot about the type of person she was . RIP ❤️
And she would of had "survivors guilt" if she had not jumped in.
@@coco-cliveasmrgenealogy6171 and then kill herself cause she let her friends die
@@coco-cliveasmrgenealogy6171It does not matter. If she didn't suffer from survivor's guilt, chances are someone else would.
@@Kimmy_95 I am not talking about anybody else, I am talking about Rachel and only Rachel, because she died after going back in for them.
If the others died and she didn't, chances are she would of suffered survivors guilt. That's all.
@@Kimmy_95 I'd rather go out know i saved someone then to live knowing i could've but didn't
I used to be a flight attendant for 6 years. Any siren, or alarm or loud sound inside the aircraft always made us alert and spring into action. It could mean a decompression, a crash landing, ditching, smoke or fire in the washroom or in the cabin or galleys… When you hear a siren guys, never, ever ignore it. Sirens and any loud alarms always signal danger!!!!
Yeah but you have context here 1) Sign stolen 2) they have no context. There you work as an attendant and know a siren means something also its an aircraft so usually people would be alert iiregardless vs in the woods and you head a sound no context of the meaning
Master Caution Alarm.
… that’s literally your job. You are on shift. With the full knowledge of various aviation accidents that can occur. Not swimming with your friends.
For people here asking there's no context for the people in this video.. you're right. There not. But if I dunno about you, but if I heard a fuckin siren, only once, my first thought wouod be to get the fuck out. So fuck your context. You hear a siren, you don't keep going, simple. I wouldn't have needed that sign to tell me to leave. The moment I would've heard it for the first time would've been enough for me.
@@skaynne54 if I am on a paid shift, I am not going to ignore an alarm in comparison to a random distant siren while with my friends.
I live in Auckland and I’ve been to the lookout and I can assure you that what is a gentle water flow turns into an absolute torrent a few minutes after the floodgate is opened. Incredibly sad story. I love the amazing beauty that New Zealand has to offer for locals & tourists alike but one has to be extra cautious (even I had a lucky escape near Piha). RIP Racheal. The real culprit in this sad tale is the person who stole the warning sign for in doing so he/she stole the life of a lovely young lady.
i wonder if the person who has the sign knows about this and if so feels guilty, i hope they think about it often
I feel like having a verbal message after the siren would be a good idea. Like the big voice systems on military bases.
Exactly.
The sign is a good idea too but who the hell stole a sign??? Like whats wrong with people. Whoever stole it is responsible for people's death.
or like, listen to the siren. theyre literally made for "oh my god, get out of here, get to shelter"
@@Jordan-vx2ly the siren is literally the sound we use as a natural disaster warning, no voice necessary
@@psychofury6485 thank youuuuuu. See, we'd survive a horror movie
My youngest sister and I almost got swept away below our local dam. We were too far down the river to hear the warning sirens at the dam to let people know that they were releasing water. We were in the middle of the river, fishing, and I thought I could start to notice the water rising slightly but wasn't sure. A couple minutes later, we both realized what was happening and headed for the river bank as fast as we could go. By the time we got out, the water was almost to our waist and very swift. we grabbed some trees and climbed out just in time. Nobody got hurt but it scare the shit out of both of us.
Glad you two are OK.
Bruh and
@@MrMayo-lw8us and shut up
Same thing happened to me and a friend!!!
That’s terrifying! Glad you’re ok!
I literally feel like a child sitting on the floor listening to someone tell a good ass story. It’s not only that the stories are always good, but you know how to tell the story and keep the audience engaged. It doesn’t sound boring or it doesn’t make me feel like I’m losing track. I just love everything about these videos. Amazing CONTENT!!!
they're real stories
@@sinkingpotatosalad no shit Sherlock
What's an "ass story"...?
@@PRH123 they put "good" before the word, so they mean the stories are good
@@PRH123 You shouldn't be on RUclips if you don't get it. Also they were using an adjective
I’m so glad I found this channel because he knows exactly how to tell the story without boring his viewers. He cuts right to the chase immediately and gives enough background information so people know what’s actually happening.
Worst part is since the others survived, she didn't even have to jump in. It shows she placed the lives of others above her own, but that's little solace for her family I'm sure.
There’s no guarantee that the girl she tried to save would have lived if she hadn’t jumped in and tried to help.
There's a find line between bravery and stupidity
But the karma though
I commend her bravery. You can say she was stupid, but you gotta think, if there is even a chance you can save someone's life in a situation like this, wouldn't you take it? You don't have time to think, you have to make the split second decision to either keep yourself safe or save another.
True. And it was also her idea so at least it wasn’t one of the others who were even more innocent. Still the whole situation sucks. Whoever stole the sign really sucks as a person
@@Sohailhgfggggh6it’s her fault they were there. She might’ve had too much guilt if she didn’t do anything because it’s her fault they were there
She took responsibility. She suggested it and she made sure her friends survived. Very brave young woman. The men there too were brave. Everyone trying to help each other instead of “every man for himself”
It’s dumb decision in itself, but still the adrenaline would make it seem a good thing to do
Well everyone ignored a siren, it's not calld play stupid game win stupid prices for nothing. The bravery Was nothing compared to how dumb everyone involved were
Not brave just stupid
@@general_merten give the girl credit she did something you and I couldn't do unless a sacrifice is necessary
@@general_merten indeed, that's a good point
Just have to say i appreciate your pronounciation of our place names. And you are an awesome storyteller. Big loves from New Zealand 💜
I saw this about a year ago, I knew I had seen it before, but I still wanted to watch it again. Such a good story teller! Rachael, your a hero. Rest well.
Hey Mr Ballen, I live quite close to this dam, about 10 minutes away in Taupo. It used to be quite a popular swimming spot amongst kids (including myself) in the area, hence the dirt trail that slowly developed there. After this incident happened it shook up our entire town, I remember every year we had Trustpower employees, who were the people that owned the dam, come too our school and give a talk on not swimming in that area and why its so dangerous. Since then they have put up new fences and signage around the tracks and the surrounding area to deter people from swimming. Thanks for all the amazing content you make, it was quiet cool to hear about a case so close to home.
Maybe they should not open the dam on certain days of the week and then people can swim on those days since it seems to be such a big draw. In reality they shouldn't be swimming on a river, they're just asking for trouble and drowning deaths, but closing the dam on say Saturday and Sunday might not be a bad idea.
You should tell them to stop opening the dam up so a bunch of autistic tourists can watch water flow... If it's not actually needed, stop doing it.
@@vaskylark Shouldn't be swimming on a river???? Wow, that would have killed my childhood. Not everyone has a pool, and people drown in those too. 100% safety isn't life. Life without chances isn't life.
@@vaskylark yeah, I think that's a good idea.. but I was also wondering why more ppl aren't aware of what that siren is for? Especially if you are from that area.. wouldn't ppl wonder why a random siren was going off at certain times of the day? At least if they knew what the siren meant they'd hopefully have enough time to get out.. Idk just wondering 🤔
@@mike02454 what you seem to fail to understand, is rivers have stronger currents then some beaches, and it’s physically impossible to swim in some of those currents. I’ve been caught in one when there was no life gaurds, and if my adrenaline didn’t kick in, I’d be dead right now. And that was just us going for a friendly nice swim in a “safe “ river that was actually open for swimming. Rivers are not safe and people should NOT swim in them. If you don’t have a pool, go find a beach or a lake. Rivers are dangerous as fuck.
She went and saved her friend,not only because she cared but because it was her idea and she felt guilty of not helping. What a hero.
Stupid bot
Yea I'm sure that ran through her mind during all that chaos. I mean we all know women are calm and collective under stressful situations 😏🤣🤣🤣
@@LightSword743 bro what ur so random
@@cameronlowery3424 loser lmao
@@cameronlowery3424 is that good bad ????? 🧁 😈
I visited this spot in March 2017, just a month after this. We were up on the dam where visitors can view the rapid water flooding in as the gates open. It’s fascinating, fast, and beautiful. The sirens sound just prior. We had no idea of this tragedy until I saw this video today. I can’t imagine being down in there. 😢The levels rise so fast and powerfully over the rocks.
@mrballen - love your stories. I listen from New Zealand and just wanted to say how nice it is to hear how you presented our country and pronouncing our place names. Thank you!
The two men with them were police officers. Friends of Rachael’s sister. You would think that hearing three sirens in a row would alarm two cops.
Stupid and ignorant, all of them
Being a cop doesn't make you immune to stupidity or ignorance
@@argonaught True, which makes it even worse.
@@argonaught Oh please, none of them were "stupid". They had no idea what the siren was warning about, where it was coming from, or what area it was going off for. Stop acting like these college kids enjoying their day were "stupid".
@@l.m.d.4084 you clearly missed to topic of conversation. The world is so full of low IQ clowns 😤
Rachael was my childhood best friend and can confirm she was one incredible chick - she was taken way too soon and I often think about how she'll always be 21 and I keep on ageing. Rachael was an absolutely incredible person and she is so missed by her gorgeous family and friends. She will never ever be forgotten!
I’m sorry for your loss
I’m so sorry for your loss. She seemed like such a wonderful person. Rip ❤
@@MrBallen I think he's 🧢ing
I'm so sorry
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Thanks Mr Ballen. Great content and well done. Thank you for your service as well.
I remember watching this man 4 years ago he had 200k subscribers and now I come back he has 41x more than that I'm amazed how you got 8 million subscribers in 4 years congrats man!
Whomever stole that sign should be charged with murder.
Manslaughter. For it to be murder, they would need to have the premeditated intention of stealing the sign specifically in the hopes that someone dies. Though I'm not a lawyer and don't know the exact laws of their country, I think murder is a little harsh. Manslaughter makes perfect sense though, because you should damn well know that removing safety signs is extremely dangerous.
@@FuckingFuckShitBitch I mean in terms of morality, it’s no different. Intention doesn’t matter, unless you can’t read you know that removing that sign is highly likely to cause fatality.
@@hanspz5505 it would still be manslaughter
Yeah for real they really do it’s messed up
@@hanspz5505 manslaughter
This woman put her life on the line and ultimately lost it in order to try and save her friends. She deserves nothing but praise.
Well, it was her suggestion that got them there in the first place. I guess the real guilty party is whoever told her about the place to begin with though. They left out the little fact that the pool was in a dam spillway.
Completely agree!!!
Paul Frederick Sometimes there isn’t really anyone to blame when stuff happens. Except of course whoever it was who took the freaking sign down
@@sabrinatscha2554 if you're in a dam spillway and you hear sirens I mean I knew what this video was about before I even watched it. I only watched it to verify my suspicion. And sure enough I was right. They got swept away when the gates were opened. I was operating with even less information than they should have been. Life comes at you hard.
She was stupid
Hello Mr Ballen, I found your video a couple days ago and I have been watching your videos. I really really enjoy it. And, I have been having a hard time in the army but your video is like the only thing that heals me from the daily drudgery. Thanks!
First time watching your channel and I have to applaud you for captioning the photos as the actual location vs not. Such a minor thing but it makes the video much more enjoyable.
Truly tragic but ngl if I'm in an area especially in nature and I hear a siren blaring I am running back to whatever the closest region of civilization is.
Me too! I'm not saying I would have realized it in the moment but I figured out early in this story that it involved the opening if a damn. Siren = danger. You hear it once, turn around but three times? What's really tragic however is that thus likely would have been avoided had someone not stolen the warning sign. That person has blood on their hands and I truly hope karma shows them.
Esp. 3 times!!!
Kids.
Well that’s just you, and not everyone. I definitely wouldn’t run just because a siren went off lol, sirens go off all the time for practice and stuff. Like he said they looked around and nothing looked out of normal so why would they run? Not everyone just runs at same things you would!!
@@zzirfamo24 Sure but they weren't in a place that they knew well. That means they weren't familiar with what this particular warning siren was for. Which means that they should have turned back just to be safe. They could have asked the locals what the siren was for when they got back. If you aren't familiar with a certain area and a siren goes off the smart thing to do would be to head back.
My favorite way to start a lazy Sunday. Thank you, Mr. Ballen! Congratulations on the Amazon deal. You deserve it.
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What is this Amazon deal?
@@remiCs617 his podcast was bought by Amazon
Here before this comment blows up
Yeah he does
You do such a great job of narrating these stories! ❤❤
Wow, so sad that happened to her. The most heroic role are the people who will do anything to save a friend. I think that’s the lesson we can take from this. Also, run away when you hear a siren.
Sirens have always freaked me out, just the sound alone induces anxiety. This story really sent chills up my spine. Mr ballen really knows how to tell a story so good it makes you feel like you're really there. That's how you know you're talented.
Rest in peace Rachel 💗
That's it's job lol is to get ur attention. It makes my skin crawl too
same, the sound reminds me of air raid sirens i have heard in ww2 documentaries
you wonder why? LoL
They are supposed to. They create them to induce anxiety, panic, and alertness...
If alarms were made to be calming and serene, that would be very confusing for ones body signals and they wouldn't "alarm" you... they are intended to create "alarm".
yeah sirens have a scary noise in my opinion
The Pop - up Ad part was good. 😂 Love listening to your stories by the way. Never thought it'd still give me the chills all the time while listening.
This is cool because I’m from New Zealand and to hear you tell a story from my neck of the woods is awesome cheers Mr Ballen
I'm Australian and I remember this on the news. Tragic that Rachel lost her life over a display for tourists. I remember being out in the hills in Victoria and hearing a siren like that. It really sets your nerves on edge. In my case they were testing the bushfire alarms, but I only found that out ages after. I can also confirm that (despite all the crap we give them) Kiwis are bloody generous and brave.
Ausie slang 4 new Zealanders lol
Aussies and Kiwis love joking about hating each other Lol.
I appreciate the compliment at the end, although I gotta say sometimes we make brave yet dumb decisions - usually if it includes friends or family - and other times it's just plain dumb choices, I can't deny that
Rob Hall is a prime example of that bravery
@@whamrslamr5372 'Yeah, An Ozzy was giving a Kiwi a verbal bash, in a British pub, when a Brit started to join in. The Ozzy turned and gave him a thumping, and saying that he can't pick on a Kiwi. 'cos, we're neighbors, we can pick on each other.
Gotta love, hating the Ozzies. But it's them, and us, against the world.
I hope her friend is doing okay...the one Rachel jumped in to save. She's got to have some sort of survivals guilt. What an amazing friend and tragic story.
Survivors guilt is no joke, you are right. In Iraq, something happened and killed half of my team of 6 and to this day, I feel awful, but therapy certainly saved my life. I hope she got very serious hardcore therapy, so she can have a normal life!!
@@Sparty-pi3jq as the son of an old Vietnam era Green Beret who has some pretty bad PTSD of which i grew up seeing- I’m really glad that you’re seeking therapy, as there’s no shame in it, and it helps keep you fighting guys with us. My Pop also had to seek some time in therapy after getting out of Vietnam, and I’ve seen a good few of my military friends seemingly doing a lot better when they got into counseling and talked about their problems.
I’m just a civy- but having grown up being inspired by stories of you fighting guys, it sucks a bag of dicks to hear how often you guys get the short end of the stick when getting out, and I hope it gets better for you guys helpwise.
And hey- if you ever just need a random to talk to, you’re always welcome to come back to this post if you just need to vent or something. I check youtube daily usually.
Take care guy! :)
@@Sparty-pi3jq Thank you for your sacrifice and I’m so sorry about your friends. I thank them too.
I’m glad you sought therapy. I have some ptsd from events in my childhood and I should’ve gotten therapy many many years ago myself.
@@Sparty-pi3jq aww that sounds awful. Reading this i take note to remind myself that my problems are very minimal compared to others. Im glad therapy has helped you and hope you are doing alright
@@Sparty-pi3jq I've got the same issue. Not sure why I made it home, but my brothers, and sisters didn't. I really try to focus on living the life they couldn't. And to live in a way to honor them.
Love this guys non verbal communication!
Rest in Peace. your a true hero Rachel
I was always under the impression that if you are in or near a river and hear a siren it is always best to get out of it, or away from it and find higher ground quickly. That knowledge never failed me.
Right? At what point in time is it a good idea to ignore an earsplitting siren
If you an hear the siren, it is a warning for you...the closer the sound is, the more danger you are in!! Such a brave set of young people; sometimes that's the problem: being too brave and very young, all the world's a big fun and sunny stage!
same with me but all the time, whenever i hear a siren that isn't emergency services, i'm going home
@@Yeolita Except when it's a test.... which is the only time I have actually heard a warning siren.
That's literally what smart people do though, the fact they're all this stupid is actually disturbing. It's not even a crazy accident. It's LITERALLY stupidity.
Rest In Peace Rachel. Your last act was an incredible display of your courage, kindness and caring and willingness to sacrifice even your very life for those you loved. God rest your soul and bless your surviving family and friends who suffered such a devastating loss in your passing.
True but still, I rather live a coward than die a hero. God bless this selfless young woman. RIP.
To call it courage would only encourage people to do similar things in a dangerous situation. Once her friend was in the water there was no helping her. True courage would have been to make the best decision for everyone involved and leave her friends to get help. I hope she rests in peace and I hope that others can learn from her loss to make sure it wasn't in vain.
@@Polar1z3 nah it was definitely courage. What you said would be the smart thing to do. What she did was absolutely courageous.
@@BlitzinMackGaming she made a rash decision in a crisis. I don't want to sound like I'm blaming her in anyway it's a very difficult situation that I can't imagine being in. But to me courage is about making a good decision with a clear mind. But maybe I'm wrong. The important thing is that people learn from this tragedy
Why would she do that..
I grew up in a town with a park on the river, occasionally you will hear a siren and when you do you get out of the water fast because they are opening the gates to the damn. Always be cautious around water especially if you here a siren.
There's a very similar spot in Norway many go to. Big difference is that they usually don't send spillwater downstream and there's no siren. Some family members of mine who went there often suddenly noticed the water level rising one time and quickly got out of there. Luckily no one got hurt.
The stolen warning sign is so bloody frustrating. Super sad. So the spill wasn't even nessesary. 🥺
i know
The spill is part of the management of a large hydro scheme so is necessary. It's just the regular timing that's for tourists.
@@jules_2.0 it sounded like it was just for tourism, which would have added extra suck to the story
@@tamalaneleighpetersen3918 Yeah, I realise it sounded like that in the video. I work in the electricity industry and have talked to the people who manage this scheme. After this tragedy they did investigate what they could do to improve safety.
People don’t realize how bad it can be to steal signs. I was in a car accident that totaled our car because someone stole the stop sign that would have kept a truck from smashing into us. I wonder how many people have horrible accidents for that reason.
As a kiwi, there are lots of secret swimming spots. If you hear a siren, RUN. Sirens do not go off in NZ for no reason and likely is a tsunami warning or a damn release warning, especially if it is high pitched.
Also where they had been swimming was the Aratiatia Rapids which is a majorly bad area to swim in from roughness and sudden changes in the water level as it also comes off of the huka falls which are giant falls.
Also, Following Rachael's death, DOC replaced the stolen sign, blocked the unofficial track with a wooden fence and a second steel gate on top of the cliff.
The issue had been raised by Mercury Energy “on a number of occasions” before Rachael’s death, as it wanted the council’s harbormaster to enforce the bylaw. Mercury Energy, which controls the dam, wanted DOC to erect new signs to state “no swimming” rather than just a warning about the risk. In response to Mercury’s assertion about the bylaw, the Waikato Regional Council said it had no power to ban swimming in the river. The bylaw was designed as a mechanism to regulate boating activity, according to the council’s legal advice, not ban swimming in an area which boats cannot even access. Lots of people still swim there outside of the dam times which is not advised and it is really hard to get down there now, they cut down the ropes which lead down there.
that's what i don't get, you mentioned tsunamis, and i would assume that NZ is a place where basically everyone is taught about the sirens when they are kids. so i just don't understand how they could just ignore that type of warning when they should of known that it meant danger was coming.
and i mean, i live in the desert, 12 hours from the ocean, in a place where we don't get any major weather, earthquakes you can feel, or anything that would require a early warning system. there are a couple military bases near by, but they never test their sirens. so we don't have any sirens, tests, or anything like that, so we aren't taught about them.
but the first time i was fishing on a lake as a kid and heard a siren go off, i knew it wasn't a good thing, and it only took a few seconds for me to guess what it was signaling, and by the time it went off again we were already out of the water having lunch and waiting to watch the water lvl drop.
Thank you for all this local information. At least things have changed and the only victim died in honor.
Wait, so the company wanted to make it safer, and the government was like "we don't have the power, sorry"
@@johnsatan117 Not the government, the regional council. And it just did not have the legal authority to ban people from entering a public reserve or from going swimming in a river.
This was a better read than the script for his whole video😂
i fkin dieeeed at the “shipped onto bell’s canyon” ad BROOOJSHSJAJ NOT THE MAN IN THE WOOODS 😭😭
Love your channel….very descriptive and brilliant presentation
Rachel was a very special person she actually won new Zealander of the year for this heroic event.
Love and light Rach X
Heroic but it was her idea to be there.
she deserved a darwin award
@@jasonvoorhees5640 how? she jumped back in to help her friends, she knew what was going to happen. that’s not a darwin award.
@@charliewegner
how did she know what was going to happen?
Her own fault, hard to feel bad
Rachel was an incredible friend. It takes a lot of love and bravery to do what she did. And it's hard to find real friends - what a horrible loss for her family and friends :(
the kind of friend that is very rare. and angel on earth and in heaven.
To lure her friends nearly to their death or ignoring a clear warning siren, can somebody explain to me what she did that’s so brave? I think she felt guilty for bringing them there in the first place and tried to save her friend, but they probably would’ve both survived if she had just stayed where she was.
@@Sniperboy5551 ok
@@Sniperboy5551 She was already safe when standing at the rock, the brave part was risking your own life and safety to save Alice. Even if it didn't really work out, doing this does take some guts. They were all being stupid ignoring the siren though, but it would be pretty hard to know exactly what it was about. It could literally be a million things, including just a test, which is the most common reason to hear this type of siren in my country.
A tragic accident.
I used to swim down stream from a dam. We never got a warning when it was about to open up, but we could also see it so it was easy to get out of the water before we got swept away. Often people swam AT the dam, so a siren would have been helpful.
Rip Rachel..but u were such a brave person..who lost her life to save her friend😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤
respect for this man, who told this ENTIRE story, in the middle of a river.
Maybe I misunderstand this comment. Are you making a joke?
@@bethanykounds9056 Yes they are, he didn’t literally write the video in a river
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@@bethanykounds9056 his background is a river
hey buddy, that is not an actual river lol there’s no way he can tell a story in the middle of the river haha. ITS FAKE!!
I love how Mr.Ballen makes you not just visualize a story as he tells it but also makes you feel it like you're actually there you have to be really talented to do that.
RIGHT!!!? So awesome
Coal and wood fired laptops. Good story teller, and he's funny too
there is no way you feel like you are actually there, I have seen people die you are just a house cat who knows nothing
mans a ex marine
@@bradenmccreery769 I thought he was Navy Seal.
Literally the best story teller ever
I would be lost without the hand gestures. 😂😂😂
For Rachel to jump into water moving so fast to save her friend showed strength and courage beyond this world. I pray her family finds some peace over their loss.
It really shows that people watch too many movies nothing on earth is stronger than the power of water no disrespect to those that lost their lives but this could have been prevented
It was foolish.
It showed how naive she was! There was no way of saving them at that point. Yes you want to help a friend but you need to be safe or you're both possibly dead.
No it wasn't. They even tell EMTs to not go head-on into dangerous situations (like this) so that you don't become part of the problem and just make things worse.
I've only been to a place like this once, somewhere in the UP and I still remember there being signs **everywhere** warning of flood waters. Not to victim blame here but come on girl
@@A_Black_Sheep94 yeah. Never be loyal. Being loyal is for p******
The biggest thing that I want to be critical of is them not stopping to consider that the alarm could be a warning of the area they're headed to, and just shrugging it off. It's still pretty sad, but I mean if I'm walking through an unknown area and I hear a siren? I'm doubling back to my car. Could be a danger warning, a trespassing warning, anything.
Yea and the fact that they were walking *towards* the siren is just wild to me. If I was chilling in a pool of water and a third siren was going off upstream from where I was... I'm RUNNING out dude
To be fair I'm a kiwi and spent around a month ignoring a siren that went off once or twice a day when I moved to a rural property, turns out the alarm in the village fire station traveled really well over the fields. I'm not saying that ignoring it in this case was a good wise decision but I can see how they could have dismissed it without seeing the sign and being to far away from the shore for it to be a tsunami warning.
Sometimes sirens are turned on for check up
We live in an era of what I call "Millennial Think" that has permeated all parts of society but originated with helicopter moms, padded playgrounds, trigger warnings, and safe spaces.
If I'm allowed to do something, it must be safe.
There wasn't anything or anyone physically preventing them from doing what they were doing. So, it must be safe.
Also being a bit more aware of the local geography and conditions before you go is something they didn't do. Generally if there's a dam, don't stick around too long in the area immediately downstream and run inland if you hear a siren, because dams often release water.
A similar situation happened where I live recently, a man died after being washed away for failing to heed a similar siren.
WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU STAY WHILE ITS FLOODING ID BE RUNNING FOR MY LIFE 😭 😭
So sad that the girl who was perfectly safe, but made the honorable decision to save her friend is the one who passed away. That is extremely upsetting, but at least people know what kind of person she was because not everybody would have jumped in the water like she did. RIP to obviously a great person 🙏
Well she put them all in that situation in the first place....and they all ignored obvious warning signals...so it's not really a sad situation at all.
Foolhardy
@@drinking_master They pretty much asked for what happened to them
@@A_Black_Sheep94
You're weirdly invested in going through the comments, repeating "they asked for it".
@@ChA0s_AgeNt Yea it took like 2 minutes
Whoever stole or removed the sign should be facing serious criminal charges
Not only that but the state aswell. Why being so minimalistic and out only one sign???
Why not periodically send someone to check the presence and condition of the sign?
whoever stole the warning sign needs to be CHARGED.
Great stories love to hear more thanks for sharing have a nice day Laura 😮
The fact that they all unanimously ignored the several warning sirens, regardless of not knowing what they were for, is just such a devastating lapse in judgement. Such a tragedy that could have been avoided. 😢
I'm glad I found this comment. I was feeling a bit like a bitch going "This is tragic and sad but...there were 3 warning sirens. I hear sirens and associate sirens with danger, so I'd be out of there right away"
Agreed. Guess I’ve been lucky enough to have always been around dams. Sirens would make me immediately think they’re going to open a dam and flood the area.
@@tinymittensdesign No you are right she would be alive if she used common sense.
To be fair, my town has constant tornado siren checks. Enough where you don't even think about them being a warning anymore, just normal. Which is scary to think about.
@@youtuberyoutubingonyoutube you don't have to grow up near a dam to know that if you're near water and hear sirens you better run. Commonsense is lost on these generations.
Worked my way back through all your stories after discovering you in the Summer. I'm now up to date and scared of camping, cave diving, buying a my dream house and everything in between. Bravo Sir 👏
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me too sir. me too
He tells stories so well I'm scared to go poop on my own
😭😭😭 I agree. That “bells canyon” story…..yea never going camping.
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Nord VPN ad with the "Paaw! Paaw paaaw!!!" was the climax of the story. Loved it!
Never, EVER ignore a siren.
This actually made me cry. I’m so moved by what an enormous heart Rachael must have had to actually jump back into the water to try to save her friend. This is just so tragic. 😔
No it didn't.
She wouldn’t have to do that if she didn’t put her friends in danger in the first place though
@@iusedthewiki3529 How tf were any of them supposed to know of the danger?
Let’s face it. Rachel was hot. But she got her friends in a lot of danger which resulted in her death. We need to not overlook the fact that Rachel was hot and would only be entering her upper 20s if still alive, and would still be hot.
@@polizzi19 her appearance has nothing to do with it creep get a heart
I’m a kiwi (New Zealander) and I am seriously impressed with your pronunciation of our Māori names - while not perfect, I can tell that you’ve tried and most people on YT butcher the names - thanks! So nice to hear without wanting to yell ‘it’s said XXX’
Totally agree with you
@@ihaia829 the British?
Kia pai Mr Ballen :)
Coffee house crime correctly pronounced/said the longest place name in nz 😍❤️ it was AMAZING!
Was the David Baine video.
@@ihaia829 created the land? try again. they were eaten
Rachel, what a great person she was. RIP.
Brooo hearing her jump back in after her friend gave me chills
Even though Mr. Ballen doesn’t upload 4-5 times a week anymore, he still makes our day when he uploads
Will there be a chance for the 4-5 times upload a week make a come back?
@@kampua4life most likely no hes got 6.5m follers he doesnt need to get ppl to follow anymore
It makes the uploads that much more special, also I can imagine there are only so many stories out there to tell lol
Not only has he gotten a large following, but if he posted that often he would eventually run out of horror stories. Gotta have time for new ones to develop and to research past stuff
New Zealand isn’t real
This man is a gem. He has the most absolute warped sense of humor and just the fact he can "usually" keep a straight face while advertising for his sponsors is amazing. Great job sir!
Hahaha
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@@MrBallen You drank a little to much caffine before that one
And when he can’t keep a straight face he has the most adorable giggle
Loool, I was actually waiting for the outtakes that are normally incorporated. We all know Ballen laughed like 50 times before he got a straight-faced shot 😂
U R da best of YT content creators
Ur so animated and entertaining 👍
I gotta give it to u, bro. When u advertise for your sponsor, at least u make it amusing for us, so it's not like watching an ad or something. Lol, keep up the good work, man
She was very brave to jump in once she was at safety. The entire situation maybe an error on everyone’s part, but that instinct to think more of another person than yourself is a sign of a good person. RIP
no its not its a sign of an idiot she died needlessly and its her own fault for her own death
theres a difference between bravery and flat out stupidity.
@@yeetskeet907 so you're calling someone who tried to save their friend stupid? Well I'm glad I'm not friends with you.
No that is the absolute worst idea in potential drowning situations.
@@slargo83 they teach you not to do this when someone is drowning in rushing water. Had she been smart enough to not jump in then she would be alive.
Keep up the good work
Franko your content is always awesome, but the things you've caught in this massive sized cemetery is in a class all by itself!! You have guts, I would be freaking out and hightailling it out of there! Especially the maniacal laughter and the dancing ritual witches. Thank you for being the absolute best paranormal investigator and overall great guy around. Love you and both your channels. 👻😱
I admire the courage and toughness of Rachel De Jong,she could've survived but died saving her friends,true hero.
or an idiot, lets be honest here
I live in the Waikato in NZ and recently went on a trip away and on the way home we stopped to watch the dam opening; it really is incredible just how fast and how much the water rushes through and fills up the riverbed below. I felt quite unsettled watching the sheer volume and power from the roadside lookout, so I can only imagine how scary it must’ve been for them seeing the massive powerful cascade barrelling towards them in an otherwise very quiet and peaceful location.
We have a place in Virginia (I live in Maryland) called Great Falls and it is absolutely stunning and to see the power of water like that is incredible. I've never seen anything like it. So many people there have tempted fate and gone against the warning signs and have been killed.
is there any sign that water flows down the hill regularly? I can not imagine there would not be very huge and obvious paths the water has carved that these darwin awards ignored or somehow missed.
@@charlespancamo9771 All rivers rise and fall dramatically with just rain. That would easily account for that. It wouldn't be obvious that they were downstream from a huge dangerous tourist attraction.
@@Ena48145 im in Maryland too and I've never heard of this. I know there are some pretty cool rapids at Harper's ferry though. Will definitely check out great falls!
maybe tell them to stahp that pointless exercise?
Many places in New Zealand use sirens for various purposes. I used to live in New Zealand and one place I lived you could hear the siren several times a day.
You get so used to the siren that it just no longer causes any alarm.
Racheal is a real friend ❤may she rest in peace
I studied physiotherapy in Auckland, NZ and was in the same cohort as Rachel. By no means close friends, more like acquaintances. Amazing girl, A+ student. Of course it was a big shock when we lecturers informed us. I never pried the others about what happened out of respect So it wasn’t until now that got a better idea of what actually happened that day. May she RIP. ❤
Examples like this remind us that formal education intelligence is separate from real world "street smart" education and experience. I can't imagine hearing an an alarm much less 3 times and thinking everything is fine in the area 💀.
@@Jamalquentinjr Yeah no cap bro, we all know what would happen to you. You're an example of "street trash talk" who talks more than needed
@@Jamalquentinjr while I can agree with that statement about formal education not necessarily translatable to “street smart.” A bit distasteful considering circumstances, don’t you think?
@@srirampatnaik9164 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@anthonyviana7922 Its not disrespectful is realistic.My mother and brother have thought of going in a Football stadium in our city Athens and i was the one who told them if you ll go i am coming with you or you dont go there at all.And then they asked me "why?"And i told them "you may know to behave in many places i dont know but you dont know how to behave there"That being said Hellenic and Balkan Ultras in general are very dangerous and can very easily outrage against kids, women and even their own fan supporters.Its not something to play with because many people have been killed because of this... hm let me say it straitforward to ya ..."western white rich joyfull careless naive-ness" is just a complete luck of street smart instict of surviving literally almost everywhere out of people daily safe zones.
It's the fact that Rachael sacrificed her own life for the other, she's a true friend, she must've felt guilty of taking them there and seeing what happened she wanted to help out, they all survived and she didn't. Poor Rachel :(, RIP
She only tried to turn a potential 3 people casualties into a 4 people casualties
Karma
@@93FilmsandMedia not really cause she didn't know what would happen, karma happens to people that do stuff intentionally
@@daddychill8347 she intentionally brought them to a place they could die if they ignored the sirens
@@93FilmsandMedia she didn't know the sirens were a warning? and she took her friends there to have fun, it was an accident, not a murder
Such a horrible tragedy! Just heartbreaking 💔
" ain't no siren gonna tell me what to do" 😂
I feel bad for Rachael, she seemed like a good friend to have, but…they were all tempting fate by not questioning their surroundings. A clear body of still water in a forest, a siren blaring thrice and rocks that look absolutely battered by water. Yeah, seemed like a totally safe and idyllic place.
This. Didn't want to sound mean, but they had ample time to heed the warning of the siren.
And it's rather evident at 4:44 that water frequently washes through the rocks at a higher level.
Yeah, and even without the sign, they must have known about the dam. If I were near a dam and heard a siren, even if I had no idea why, I'd be running for high ground.
@@ressljs i would run cause i dont want a giant siren creature to eat me 😨
@@ressljs Licky on da pee
They lived 3 hours away so they may not have familiar (except for Rachel) with the dam. Also, they’re all very young - I don’t recall exactly what ages but they were still in the risk-taking/immortality stage of life.
Aww man, this makes me very sad as this is basically how my mom died in 2002 in Maui. However they didn't have an alarm or a broadcast that they were going to open the flood gates. My mom was swept away along with a couple friends in a car. It's so very important for warning signs and correct warnings to be made in places like this, especially since there are so many tourists who just don't know what is and isn't usual. Miss you every day mom💗
I'm sorry for your loss. It's pretty much a guaranteed death when they don't put signs AND sirens and maybe speakers. It is negligent homicide. You are liable for a settlement by the way no? I mean how hard is it to post like 15 signs around the area.
Dam Annual Income: 10 MW, $2.6M
20 Signs: $60 each avg with and without posts (custom print, large and small signs, 20 year warranty), Labor - 3 hr (digging, driving, walking, screwing at $30/hr)
Site Survey and Planning of Signage - $1,000
$150/sign = $4,000 total or .15% of Annual income
Im sure your mum is watching you grow and is proud of you.Sorry for your loss,stay strong ❤
I'm so sorry you lost your Mom. May her memory be a blessing.
I'm so sorry for your loss♥️
another strong independent ♀!!!
I'm from Texas and I've heard tornado sirens all my life, many times they are brushed off but you absolutely assess if they should be or not for a few moments when they go off. I've seen flood areas like this that have the same type signs and sirens around pools... I can't imagine ignoring multiple sirens while in a bathing suit in a rocky pool of water where you can clearly see the dried riverbed up stream where the sirens are coming from. Such a bad decision on all of them but so sad. Sirens mean danger.
The deusch who stole that sign should be held accountable for that loss of life
this story broke my heart . poor Rachel. it was so beautiful to hear she didn't hesitate to jump in for her friend.what a beautiful soul. sad she lost her life , she still died a hero in my eyes
Poor Rachel? It was her fault they all were in tht position. Imagine if they all died 🤦🏾♂️
lol she didn't die a hero since they all survived except her. so she died for nothing. since her friends survived
@@SlavicUnionGaming your opinion is yours alone . You don't speak for me or my thoughts
@@user-td1gl2tb7r
opininon? that's literally what happened karen 🤡
@@boogidwnej179 don't be so insensitive they all agreed to go it's everyone's fault and she still saved someone poor Rachel
Remember everyone. Sirens are meant to warn you. If you EVER hear a siren in the woods, turn around and leave, maybe find an actual campsite, instead of like going off on your own with friends. You never know the dangers even if theres no siren or you cant hear it. Its better to play it safe, rather than losing a life or getting hurt.
Thank you Captain Obvious. We would never know that if you didn't explain. 😯
@@meghanmisaliar wow then I guess you should use that brain to avoid em 😱🤯
not always in many smaller waikato towns such sirens sound whenever the vounteer fire service is needed
@@dylanflynn1895 true. But still. If I was like in a forest and hear sirens. I'd get out. I'm not risking it man 💀
@@meghanmisaliar it’s almost like you didn’t watch the video this comment is replying too, yk, of the people who heard sirens but didn’t do anything? 😮
When you hear a siren, especially in succession, you have got to automatically know something is about to happen so you don't go further. You retreat. We have been taught this since Kindergarten. I feel so bad for these kids. Rachel was a Treasure of a Brave Soul and a Beautiful
Friend ! 🌿
It reminds me of my near fatal experiance in Himalayas. Its wasn't a dam spill but flash flood. Went alone to some site seeing near my relatives house, unware of the terrains and unconcerned of cloudy weather, i ventured into a small revine, i was strictly advised not to. Sat on boulder in middle of just few inches of crystel clear water i start diging san with a small stick. While enjoying my free time with my self, few women crossing a stone bridge nearby started yelling at me frantically in a language i didn't know. While i was trying to comprehend my crime, i noticed the water that was crystel clear seconds before turned murky with small branches of tomato plants n other debris. ( didn't knew or heard of flash flood back then). I started feeling uncomfortable though didn't know what was wrong n started moving out slowly n calmy but women on the bridge didn't calm down n started waving hands wildly. By then the water was already touching my knees. Then i heared a loud sound like a heavy train ragging towards me n started running with my heart in my mouth. Suddenly a wall of some, 10 to 12 feet of water + debris rushed in the ravine. Though i had reached the outermost boulder but still had water all around me. While i was planning to jump over those few feet of raging water the women signalled me to stay calm n stay on that boulder. In few seconds or may be a minute the water receded and turned into a small flow of water as earlier thiugh a bit muddy this time. I came out looked at those women thankfully but didn't say a word n returned home safe to be drowned in mighty Ganges few years later.
Rachel's bravery is inspiring. It's such a tragedy that she lost her life but she died a hero.
I hope Alice is alright too and not struggling from survivors guilt.
I wouldn’t call her a hero by any means
@@jaycemartini1510 Most mothers nowadays wont risk their lifes to save their spawn. Hell Superman didnt risk his life. There are police officers that not only wouldnt risk their lives for kids, but held said kids parents back. Please tell us who you would call a hero...keeping in mind that she was no mother, alien or police officer. She was just a normal person that risked her safety for her freind.
@@abyssmom2692 because she was the one who brought them there
It's not bravery, it's darwinism.
Bravery? You mean stupidity?
I live in NZ, those sirens are just the air raid sirens. They're very silent hill like, and creepy as hell. I live near a dam and hear this siren a few times a year for when the spill way opens up, the water pours out and anyone close by will get washed away! I remember hearing this story and it horrified us as kids!!
we test ours in town and it sounds like silent hill sirens for sure 🤣🤣
every first monday of the month we hear sirens for testing, we know what it means. They are from ww2 and still operative to this day. We learn from very young what they mean.
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😮😢 søsken story😅
Every Monday, each week, a very loud siren goes off here, as our housing estate is by Devonport Dockyard (big naval base with nuclear submarines etc) in Plymouth. UK. I would only worry if the sirens were being heard any other time, except Monday morning. Then us residents know the shit's hit the fan! 🙄
I’m a kiwi & just want to say thanks for not totally bludgeoning our native language, you did really well!
Tourists & locals alike can go to the wrong place at the wrong time, the FUNNIEST one ever though was 2 tourists mistook a really large sewer lake system as a normal lake, it actually does look like one, it’s beautiful as long as you ignore the whiff it puts out at times. Anyhows, these 2 tourists went swimming & the cops had to go get them out & let them know what they’d been swimming in!
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@@mechupaunhuevon7662I mean that’s assuming they are nz European and not Māori
@@mechupaunhuevon7662 you got me there that is the whitest thing to call yourself in this country possible lmao
It’s the language of savages
@@mechupaunhuevon7662yes they do