I used to be a truck driver and I work at a diesel repair dealership. Getting DEF from the truck stops is a bad idea because they are known for bad DEF which gets really expensive for repairs. Box fluid is much better for the aftertreatment
I have a couple 3500 silverados. The truck stop def isn’t cheaper in the long run. Full tank of DEF from truck stop last about 800 miles. Blue DEF last me about 1600 miles Blue def platinum last me about 2200 miles. Not only that the truck stop def dropped my mpgs and the platinum helped my mpgs. So yes cheaper at the pump but more expensive in the pocket. You’ll be buying more def and fuel use it from the truck stop. I’m a hot shot driver so I put in a lot of miles and researched all the def out there. Hands down to the blue def platinum
@@Myksgarage 4 weeks after seeing your video, and now I have my first Diesel truck. 2024 Sierra 1500 AT4. Tomorrow will mark 1wk of ownership. Now I have to find a fuel station that sales DEF at the pump.
As a semi truck owner I can 110% tell you def at the pump IS NOT the way to go.. I have got bad def so many times from the pump and the only way to know unless you test it is by your truck telling you aka nox efficiency codes which will put you on the side of the road quick.
@@Myksgaragethe answer I came here for. Even if the tank in my new-to-me 2015 3500 pickup holds only a couple gallons, sounds like something I can manage without effing anything up 👍🏻 Anything else this first time diesel owner should learn? Thank you!
The service dept. at the dealer where I bought my truck told me that there’s two things to know about DEF: 1: don’t fill it up, unless you’re towing constantly, or taking a multi-thousand mile trip. DEF has a shelf life, and under normal everyday driving, the DEF may go past its shelf life, before you use it all. They told me to let it get down around 15-20% then just add a 2 1/2 gallon jug, which would put it back up to 65-ish% full. (On my ‘16 Duramax) And 2: learn to read the date of manufacture code on the box of blue DEF. (There’s RUclips videos that show you how to read the code),…. And get the newest stuff you can find on the shelf.
I am still not sure if buying from truck stop vs buying box which is better. Box gotta watch dates. Truck stop certainty more fresh but is it clean top quality. I gotta believe truck stop def like gas must be tested & is good. Price might be cheaper at truck stop vs store jugs
When you get your DEF out of the ground it is new stuff put together with old stuff as it is replaced you don't know how old it is because it is mixed, on the other hand when you buy the box it is dated and you know how old it is.
you do realize that when the def is filled at the pump by delivery trucks, you dont really know how much of the old stuff in the tank is being mixed with the new stuff in the delivery truck? better to by the jugs and examine the product date on the box for the freshest stuff.
But with that, you do realize as well that when you buy DEF in the jug, you have NO clue on how it was stored before it got to the store shelf. Both have drawbacks
@@Myksgarage agree. But like I stated in earlier post. Be mindful of the pump condition at truck stop. Make sure hose it stored as intended and nozzle door is closed from previous user. If not, move to another pump.
New to the diesel world and giving advice on def.😅 Def at the pump is a bad idea. Maybe cheaper at the pump, but eventually it will cost you in the long run. Should be wiping that nozzle before putting in your tank. Check shelf life and dates on boxes purchased on the shelf. Do not purchase def that is stored in the window exposed to sunlight.
This guy is a menace for just watching that shopping cart 😂 jk I just bought a 2023 Chevy Tahoe with Duramax and just searching the internet on filling the D.E.F. tank with bottles vs at dispenser.
Most guys will tell you the only thing that matters is that it’s not expired, as the urea % can change. Pump at a truck stop should be good. Unless you’ve got the tool to test % you won’t know until your truck tells you if you get bad def. I’ve heard lots of complaints on the platinum causing problems.
Well depends on how busy the gas station you go to, I always get my diesel and def at speedway by my house, it is very busy truck stop , they wouldn't risk their business with bad fuel or def to make one of the truck driver unhappy, he will make sure every semi driver know not go there, so I am confident to say use good truck stop and you will be fine with clean fuel and def.
But...yes, truck stop is probably the freshest DEF since it's used daily by big rigs. Its all regulated to be made the same regardless of the brand. But truck stop DEF is more at risk for crystallization because of fluid left in the pump hose from previous fills. DEF crystallizes from age, poorly storage and rapidly from exposure to the atmosphere. Not saying don't use Truck stop DEF, it's most certainly cheaper. But make sure the hose and nozzle was stored properly from the previous use. That means hose rolled up, door sealed etc... You definitely don't want to risk pumping crystallized fluid in your tank just to save a couple of buck when you fill up.
hahahaha@ that shopping cart being push by an angry ghost 😆,,,,,,,ps never ever ever use truck stop DEF FLUID it will destroy sensors and cause all types of engine problems k,,,only use DEF FLUID from the jug .regards GJ
I cant believe you didn't hop out and grab that cart. I hate people like you, for real!!! I bet you leave your cart in the parking lot after shopping too!! SMH
ya real good content you have to tell somone how to put liquid in a tank but you cant open your door get out and stop a cart from hitting more cars? then you arnt even smart enough to edit it out? what a stupid jack wagon
Yay let’s watch it hit 12 other cars instead of grabbing it. Sounds like a plan 👍🏼
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Welcome to Utah😂
Agreed.
Hopefully the cart chased down the A Hole who didn’t put it away properly… Justice! 😂
Crazy to sit there and watch the cart bounce off the trailer and then a car and not even make an attempt to stop it. Nice
I know, crazy right!
@@Myksgarage He or she is talking to you, bro.
Pretty cool to see the bystander effect also occurs with runaway trolleys 😂
Observe and report!!
What's crazy is expecting people to jump out of their vehicle to chase down carts.
That shopping cart was a good side twist 😂
Yeah!
I used to be a truck driver and I work at a diesel repair dealership. Getting DEF from the truck stops is a bad idea because they are known for bad DEF which gets really expensive for repairs. Box fluid is much better for the aftertreatment
Interesting to hear all of the different experiences with DEF
@@Myksgarage hes right im a trucker for 12 years def from pump is the worst you can do i buy the jugs blue def.
Love how he just sits there and watches it go to hit other cars.
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I have a couple 3500 silverados. The truck stop def isn’t cheaper in the long run. Full tank of DEF from truck stop last about 800 miles.
Blue DEF last me about 1600 miles
Blue def platinum last me about 2200 miles. Not only that the truck stop def dropped my mpgs and the platinum helped my mpgs. So yes cheaper at the pump but more expensive in the pocket. You’ll be buying more def and fuel use it from the truck stop. I’m a hot shot driver so I put in a lot of miles and researched all the def out there. Hands down to the blue def platinum
Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing
You must run a Ram as a hot shot
I get 1200 miles at the pump for 5 gallons of DEF
also DEF Is based off of mpg economy
If you didn’t know that
Blue def platinum made my truck, and many others, go into limp mode for poor def quality.
Good to know!! I was wondering why my mpg dropped. Wow!
@@Bpf1893have seen that with other trucks as well. The jugs sit around too long for starters.
I learned something new today. Thank you Sir!
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@@Myksgarage 4 weeks after seeing your video, and now I have my first Diesel truck. 2024 Sierra 1500 AT4. Tomorrow will mark 1wk of ownership. Now I have to find a fuel station that sales DEF at the pump.
That cart had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
well thanks for not roasting me for not stopping it
@@Myksgarage nah that was funny and I’m a person not a bot! No need for roasting. Fun curveball!
Why did we not grab the cart brotha??
It is one of my life's greatest regrets!
I wonder how clean is the DEF coming out of the pump vs a clean jug???
Yeah I wonder that as well
Just like buying fuel, as clean as the quality of the fuel station,.
I fuckin lost it at the cart part
Crazy right!
As a semi truck owner I can 110% tell you def at the pump IS NOT the way to go.. I have got bad def so many times from the pump and the only way to know unless you test it is by your truck telling you aka nox efficiency codes which will put you on the side of the road quick.
So do you buy the jugs?
@@Myksgarage yes sir
The shopping cart 😂4:43
crazy right!
how often do you need to fill the def
I'd say around every 4-7k miles.
@@Myksgaragethe answer I came here for. Even if the tank in my new-to-me 2015 3500 pickup holds only a couple gallons, sounds like something I can manage without effing anything up 👍🏻 Anything else this first time diesel owner should learn? Thank you!
The service dept. at the dealer where I bought my truck told me that there’s two things to know about DEF: 1: don’t fill it up, unless you’re towing constantly, or taking a multi-thousand mile trip. DEF has a shelf life, and under normal everyday driving, the DEF may go past its shelf life, before you use it all. They told me to let it get down around 15-20% then just add a 2 1/2 gallon jug, which would put it back up to 65-ish% full. (On my ‘16 Duramax)
And 2: learn to read the date of manufacture code on the box of blue DEF. (There’s RUclips videos that show you how to read the code),…. And get the newest stuff you can find on the shelf.
Good video and watch for run away carts !
Yes, those run away carts can do some damage!
My guy capser looking to fugg shit up
Was that a remote control shopping cart!
It looked like it!
Lmao that cart was on a mission lmao
Yeah it was possessed!
Good stuff keep the content coming. I have a 2022 Silverado LT 2500 with the diesel that is built and waiting on a chip. Hoping to get it soon.
Thanks Brother! How long have you been waiting for your truck?
Beautiful truck, congratulations!
Thanks
@@Myksgarage IT NEEDS TO GET SMASHED INTO BY SOMETHING THE GUYS A DOUCHE
I am still not sure if buying from truck stop vs buying box which is better. Box gotta watch dates. Truck stop certainty more fresh but is it clean top quality. I gotta believe truck stop def like gas must be tested & is good. Price might be cheaper at truck stop vs store jugs
Yeah, have to be careful either way
Whoever gets that vehicle after you trade it in eventually is getting a well taken care of vehicle
Thanks for the positive comment!!
you can go 500 miles after empty before the computer will limit you to 65mph. don't stress about it. i sure don't
Yeah good point
That sounds vehicle dependent. Others have reported "limp mode" and no subsequent starting.
truck stop def eventually made my cel come on twice
Interesting
What was the check engine light code?
When you get your DEF out of the ground it is new stuff put together with old stuff as it is replaced you don't know how old it is because it is mixed, on the other hand when you buy the box it is dated and you know how old it is.
Good point!
you do realize that when the def is filled at the pump by delivery trucks, you dont really know how much of the old stuff in the tank is being mixed with the new stuff in the delivery truck? better to by the jugs and examine the product date on the box for the freshest stuff.
True, however this truck stops go through some much of this DEF that I’m confident it’s not an issue.
But with that, you do realize as well that when you buy DEF in the jug, you have NO clue on how it was stored before it got to the store shelf. Both have drawbacks
@@Myksgarage agree. But like I stated in earlier post. Be mindful of the pump condition at truck stop. Make sure hose it stored as intended and nozzle door is closed from previous user. If not, move to another pump.
@@markmidkiff7048 you could say the same about gas and diesel
New to the diesel world and giving advice on def.😅
Def at the pump is a bad idea. Maybe cheaper at the pump, but eventually it will cost you in the long run. Should be wiping that nozzle before putting in your tank. Check shelf life and dates on boxes purchased on the shelf. Do not purchase def that is stored in the window exposed to sunlight.
Everyone has an opinion on this and most of them are not found upon any solid research
This guy is a menace for just watching that shopping cart 😂 jk
I just bought a 2023 Chevy Tahoe with Duramax and just searching the internet on filling the D.E.F. tank with bottles vs at dispenser.
Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood!
You should only but DEF from the box to ensure good quality DEF.
Interesting opinion
Most guys will tell you the only thing that matters is that it’s not expired, as the urea % can change. Pump at a truck stop should be good. Unless you’ve got the tool to test % you won’t know until your truck tells you if you get bad def. I’ve heard lots of complaints on the platinum causing problems.
Very helpful.
Nice!
Are you not concerned more about the quality of the DEF than a cheap price?
I'm more concerned about the quality
whole lot of Karens sitting and complaining about the cart lol
I know right!
Some say the quality at truck stop isn't the same as box def
Worse at the truck stop?
It's worse at truck stops?
Why not pause filming and secure that shopping cart?
It happened too fast
@@Myksgarage Respectfully, I wasn’t judging. I was just asking.
How many miles do you get on a fill with DEF
5-6k miles, less if you're towing a lot
Well depends on how busy the gas station you go to, I always get my diesel and def at speedway by my house, it is very busy truck stop , they wouldn't risk their business with bad fuel or def to make one of the truck driver unhappy, he will make sure every semi driver know not go there, so I am confident to say use good truck stop and you will be fine with clean fuel and def.
Great point
But...yes, truck stop is probably the freshest DEF since it's used daily by big rigs. Its all regulated to be made the same regardless of the brand. But truck stop DEF is more at risk for crystallization because of fluid left in the pump hose from previous fills. DEF crystallizes from age, poorly storage and rapidly from exposure to the atmosphere.
Not saying don't use Truck stop DEF, it's most certainly cheaper. But make sure the hose and nozzle was stored properly from the previous use. That means hose rolled up, door sealed etc... You definitely don't want to risk pumping crystallized fluid in your tank just to save a couple of buck when you fill up.
Good tips, thanks for sharing
I’m an owner operator. Trust me DO NOT BUY DEF FROM THE PUMP ITS DILUTED. Poor Quality etc. Only buy DEF from the box
Let’s be honest something had hands on that cart. 🛒
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@@Myksgarage Casper 😯
La llorona
Boogeyman
Mike wasauski
😂the cart
Yes!
5:18 Jerk move not stopping the car
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cart
Could have gotten out and stopped the cart. Especially after you said glad it didn’t hit my truck. Wow, can you say inconsiderate!!!!
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hahahaha@ that shopping cart being push by an angry ghost 😆,,,,,,,ps never ever ever use truck stop DEF FLUID it will destroy sensors and cause all types of engine problems k,,,only use DEF FLUID from the jug .regards GJ
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Man you saying D.E.F. is cringed lol
Yes it's my heavy accent.
What an a$$ to just let the cart keep going and hitting cars.
Hahahaha
There's different grades of def
Oh??
You could have perhaps... stepped out to grab the cart, instead of just staring at it while it crashed into multiple cars?
Yeah I should have done that
Gee maybe grab the cart instead of watching it damage other automobiles
It was took quick
Why wouldn’t you get out and grab that cart?
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Lovely observations on the shopping cart. Why didn't you go stop it?
Becuase I was in the middle of making a video
@@Myksgarage Yeah, we can all see just how important this video was
Too much to ask to help out with the cart?
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I think Walmart def is about $18 for a 2.5 jug
It was like $11
There's "45" pricing, and there's "46" pricing.
My opinion DELETE is the answer.
Delete the DEF?
Why didn't you get a gas pickup
Because I wanted diesel
A decent person would’ve grabbed the cart.
It's one of my life's greatest regrets 😢
Delete the DEF DPF EGR
Is that even possible on these newer diesels?
@@Myksgarage I don't know
@@Myksgarage my buddy did it to his 2018
I cant believe you didn't hop out and grab that cart. I hate people like you, for real!!! I bet you leave your cart in the parking lot after shopping too!! SMH
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cares more about filming and hearing himself talk than helping someone else! typical jerk
ya real good content you have to tell somone how to put liquid in a tank but you cant open your door get out and stop a cart from hitting more cars? then you arnt even smart enough to edit it out? what a stupid jack wagon
"Once you face your fear, nothing is ever as hard as you think."
@@Myksgarage So what, you are scared of damn shopping cart? or putting liquid into a tank?
I've been looking for diesel pickup 2024 I made this buy me a gas pickup truck
The diesel is so high
Where you live?