"Anime is Just Made on Computers These Days" | Anime Mythbusters #2
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2019
- Canipa tackles the myth that modern anime is just made on computers whilst discussing the growth of digital animation in Japan and why some are slow to adopt.
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Sources and Further Reading:
Masaaki Yuasa Interview - offscreen.com/view/an-intervi...
Pokemon on Going Digital - animation-week.com/pokemon-2d...
Wao World Interview - otakumode.com/news/5767be15a8...
How Online Animators are Revolutionising Anime (I wrote this 2 years ago, but many of these animators are now working in anime or other pro spaces!) - www.animenewsnetwork.com/feat...
Check out the Anifix Podcast: / @anifixpodcast
Follow me on Twitter: / canipashow
Intro:
Animated by Christian Maize (@CookieficationJ)
Music by Steven Kelly (@Sarifus)
Produced for The Canipa Effect
Mythbusters Animation by Eduardo Adsuara (insom-art.com/)
All footage is used for the purpose of review and is fair use. 
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The notion that digital art somehow takes "less skill" than traditional art is the most infuriating take of all time...
Thanks for the video, Canipa!
Yeah people act like the only metric for art is the effort it took, and even then discount all the effort and skill required to do digital work because I guess computers made it.
having animated on paper and tablet, it's true but also not. Since digital allows you to use short cuts for various things (depends on program), reducing the chance of messing something up due to the program assisting with certain things (which can be taken as making things easier). But it's also fair to take the statement at it's base value of just how it is to just draw, then there really isn't a difference is skill required. I'd say it depends on if you view the issue from a pure drawing stand point or if you include all tools that can come with both methods. And even then you could make an argument that they are even since some things might get easier in ditigal, but you also have extra things to learn as well. Though personally i preferred using paper over digital, because to me it made things a bit trickier which in turn made me focus better and pay more attention.
I think it comes from the fact that well it takes just as much skill to do it will always inherently look worse than cells because cells carry a certain quality to them that is just more visually appealing to most people.
Inherent would be a stretch. I'd say people who find cells grainy and unpolished and people who find digital harsh and lifeless are pretty evenly split.
its true in some way.. you can easily undo any, if not all mistake with digital.. with hand drawn if you fked up you might redo it from scratch...
THANK YOU, I work digitally in an animation studio and it's painful when people automatically associate digital to automated processes. Digital is very much the same as paper, except that you lose way less time when you mess something up.
That's what I thought too with animation in digital. Digital animation is just traditional animation with quick undo, that's what I believe. The easy things you can do with pencil is difficult to digital, or easy things that can be done with digital is harder to traditional.
Can you give me brief insight on your journey of becoming a animator
@@warlock5603 My journey is far from being the optimal one since I wasn't fully set on animation from the get go so I'll spare you all the wasted years :
1.Went to preparatory art schools to prepare for the concour to animation schools.
2.Entered a 2-year course at an animation school in Europe.
3.Started working with an animation studio that has close ties to the school.
You actually don't need to go to an animation school, the only thing you really need is a demoreel showing off what you can do.
Also, everything I've written applies to Europe, and maybe the USA. Others parts of the world might work differently, like Japan where you learn on the job rather than in schools (although people still go to them).
@@Knoloaify were you genuinely interested at the beginning ?
@@warlock5603 I've always been interested in animation, especially after starting art studies. But at first I hesitated between that and doing comics, but when I made my choice I went full on.
You know Callum is serious when Pokemon is on the thumbnail.
Heck even 3D usually starts with Drawings made by hand.
I literally told myself modern anime was made only on computers these days mere weeks after watching Crunchyroll's Behind the Scenes video on Dr. STONE, where one of the leads physically flipped through a series of headshots showing how they animated a scene where Senku flipped his bangs back.
Meanwhile, the part where you talk about veteran animators taking time to adjust to modern techniques and technologies for animation reminded me of that one episode of Shirobako, where two animators were arguing over whether they should use CG over traditional animation for an upcoming action sequence they had to make.
These videos are nice reminders for me about how little most people seem to know about the production of animation in general these days.
Anime Myth: Studios always consist of the same staff
Yes, I'd really like to have this myth busted by Canipa
I always believed that Japan still taking 2D animation seriously draws on paper first, then scan them, and finally colors them digitally. Or they would use tablets) computers to draw digitally.
Why do people act like digital art is what it used to be in the 1990s when there are artist and animators out there who can literally make their work look traditional. I’m not a big fan of integrating 3D into 2D, but digital 2D animation on its own is still amazingly impressive. If not more impressive, and it requires the same a amount of skill.
Excited to see you back and active keep bringing more subjects!
Nice video. Great insight on the animation process from hand drawn to digital. Cuphead is a good example of using traditional hand drawn animation and digital
I think the only tangible things that's different with the transition of coloring and post production to digital pipelines is the loss of the warmth and fuzz of animation that was originally captured on film from acetate cells, the same that happened to all mediums with the jump from analogue to digital.
I am loving this series, great job!
Where did all the good Anime RUclipsrs go...? Like Canipa Effect?? There were so many great video essays a couple years ago 😞😞😕
If they quitted because of copyright, it's a problem
Because a lot of pirates are posting anime videos on RUclips while these are under fair use
I love you videos, they are so good
Thought that was pingu for a second on the thumbnail but it's a very good watch I highly recommend it to anyone who can appreciate such classics like the nut job or of course Corey in the house
Great video.
1:32 my best guess on that is it all started from ryo timo. i believe he is the first webgen animator. followed by shingo yamashita.
This video is great even if just as a tribute
good video man
Whatever video explains animation production always given a like from me. I'm not really in any production, but I'm always curious of where anime or cartoon industry can go.
For me, I think digital would just make anime very very expensive. The softwares are getting more and more expensive and devices also. Though, I like to see more high quality series and movies like Makoto Shinkai's or KyoAni's works, just few studios with maybe half traditional and half digital.
I think we're in an era of digital anime like traditional anime years and years ago. Still early. I hope I can see an anime episode that has 4K backgrounds, or unnoticeable CGs or maybe, dark areas in an freeze frame that doesn't have digital artifacts. I'll wait.
I did not see this video in my sub box, I only found it because of Dan from Playframe twitted the video. I am subscribed btw
The problem with digital tablets is that even the high-end options like Cintiq Pros don't yet match the responsiveness of pen on paper. While it's not a big difference, you loose a bit of that fine control on a tablet. Of course you can zoom, but I can say from personal experience that it can get pretty tiresome to zoom all the time. Once the technology advances to the point where drawing is as convenient digitally as it is on paper, I think we'll see a huge increase in animation quality in the industry. Maybe even in the west.
i respect both but i personally have a special affinity with hand drawn
most of the corrections i receive are handddrawn still.
I have nothing against animation drawn on tablets, as the finished results do not seem to look any different. But I do like the way animatics look on paper vs digital.
Does anyone know whats the anime at 1:32 ?
Oh question? whats the name of the anime at 3: 47 because I saw it before but can't put my name on it
Real life, my least favorite anime
I totally get that digital is objectively more efficient but I can’t make heads or tails of digital programs to save my life so I prefer doing things traditionally. Every time I have to use photoshop or what have you I can’t help but feel I’m doing everything wrong or that I’m brute forcing everything so in the end paper is the less stressful option. So basically I use traditional because I’m dumb.
I'd say that you use traditional because you feel comfortable with it.
I meet the inverse mith anime is all made handraw with cells except cg, in 2008 just start to think they lie me, all anime isnt flash but isnt colored on cells
1:09 what Anime is this?
Project A-ko ♥
What is the biggest advantage of drawing digitally? Ctrl+Z
Honestly, anime fans are starting to become a bunch of boomers.
1:30 I want to watch whatever the hell that is now. someone pls tell me what it is
The movie is called "Penguin Highway" by Studio Colorido! It's a weird supernatural/mystery-esque film but the animation is cute and awesome!
@@stratoge thanks my man! I appreciate it
If ever someone asked me where I discovered Penguin Highway, I'll tell them.. PIXIV.
if you live outside Japan, can't you just scan your drawings and convert them into digital files? I don't see why it would be a barrier to working with a studio in Japan.
Just a quick question, where can I see the animated video about LoL that you put in the intro ?
Never seen that and it bothers me.
Search "league of legends pa works" and it should come up
what the anime at 1:10 ?
"league of legends pa works"
I always wondered why Japanese animators rather use the traditional route to animate than just doing it digitally. I thought maybe the animation was probably better doing it traditionally.
They can communicate better that way and also, some studios are moving more digital
4:07
Name of the anime?
Blackfox
@@wrathinuss2208 thanks
BLACKFOX
Fanservice is industry imposed not author idealized.
Thought it was a prinny
请问你们还有中文翻译吗，我英语苦手
paper or computer same thing
Anime is made on computers nowadays.... except they printed everything out and scanned them back in because anime pipeline is silly like that.
>we getting close to 2020
ahh.... sweet ignorance
People say that because they can only see that 99% of computer models on screen look shitty. Which most big budget anime use in some capacity now. I'm talking crowd shots, buildings with moving parts, vehicles, monsters and mecha. It almost never blends properly with the rest of the animation and is just jarringly ugly. While in older works, all that was hand drawn and combined with the softer look and warmer color palette of traditional cel animation, it is just gorgeous to look at unlike the sterile backgrounds you see in most anime today.
> big budget
Into the trash it goes, but stopping the asshole act, most older anime had static crowd shots, unless they were a movie. Like sure those crowd shots with 3d look bad, but well at least they are moving, they do need to look better.
While I like the painterly backgrounds of some older stuff, Yuru Camp, Dr. Stone, Ancient Magus Bride, and Made In Abyss had some pretty backgrounds.
Plus Pokemon and AoT make some good use of lesser quality 3d backgrounds to make the 2d parts shine.
That's more a technique problem, no?
If done right, digital can look miles better than most "hand drawn" anime but for the most part, the magic of "hand drawn" anime is irreplaceable
All anime is hand drawn. I don't know what you think digital artists are doing? Drawing with their feet?
They still use their hand and a pen to draw the only difference is that they're doing it on a tablet and not on paper
Does that mean Japan has strict immigration policies?
Not particularly. But speaking from experience, it's still a pain. It's just a universal pain in the ass.
not busted
Is it stupid to think that a-1 pictures are the ones to blame for the mentality of "digital < hand drawn" because of how much trash anime they pump every season?
i figured it out! i just watch a video on Wabi-sabi by jamie windsor. and i think that Wabi-sabi is the reason ppl feel the way i do about digital super polished animation. i also remember Mike Stoklasa once said something to the effect of you could have two works of art. one is perfect in every way, but doesnt make you feel anything, and another thats flawed, but you feel it. and the one that makes you feel something is the better piece. and i think that super polished digital animation kills the heart and warmth of it. so it feels like its made by robots.
i think what a lot of ppl mean is cel animation. i have the problem first hand. i cannot watch any of the fate/ufotable shows for this reason. its too cold and plastic. my mind clicks it to something like (zoids) i'll always be cel over digital. but sadly those days are pretty much gone. so when i say hand drawn i mean cel animation. i like the warmth and feel of beautifully delicious hand drawn cel animation. thats not to say i think digital is all bad, but i think some over polish to the point that you might as well just have used CG and dropped a 3d object into a 2d plane, the impact is the same to the eye.