I would certainly consider buying a Zf, however the announcement of Z6iii is likely to come in April with many of the same features, and possibly a bit more, so I will wait to compare this Zf with Z6iii on specs before buying, plus the price difference. But thanks for showing some amazing new features on ZF. Great improvements.
@@ElementaryWatson-123It is still up in the air if the screen will be tilt screen or flippy screen. Nikon reps I talked to last year at a camera show, say lots of videographers who are not content creators for RUclips filming themselves, prefer the tilt screen as it exists, so I don't know which it will be.
I have had the z6ii for 2 years now. I thought about getting the zf because of the video upgrades but I’m just going to wait for the z6iii now as I’m thinking it’s going to be an even more powerful hybrid camera. Very excited for the future for nikon.
NO. You have to distinguish plain "AF" as doing focusing for you from "recognition AI AF". "AF" can still work in deep darkness (using phase sensor sites), but cannot take normal photos at that. Your image at 10:14 [1] is at LV 8.7 - that is 18.7 stops above LV -10 so there is 425,854.2 more times light than at LV -10 [2] Recognition AI AF requires recognisable images from the sensor in order to work. The LV -10 is outside the operating range of the camera where it can "measure" light, even. With mirrorless, viewfinder, recognition AI AF, and shooting images are all directly connected. [1] 1/640 sec @ f/2.8 @ ISO 1,600 @ ExpCorr -0.33 [1] LV = EV@ISO100
@@ElementaryWatson-123- in a camera with a mechanical shutter and 1/640 sec exposure time, that 1/640 is the time the sensor was exposed to light. The AF system at low LV values can only use the phase sensors that can go to very low light levels, but for "recognition AF" you need the photographic photosites as well. Such a camera may have a separate AF sensor, not behind the shutter, but that cannot do any serious form of recognition AI AF. My calculation of LV as indication of light level has nothing to do with exposure time that you point to. My mirrorless/mechanical-shutterless camera's sensor has a readout/scan time of 1/250 sec (4 ms) but that says nothing about exposure time either. The scan time is separate from the time the analogue photosites are allowed to build a charge in their individual analogue memory - which subsequently is measured (scanned, read) per photosite and then each photosite has its analogue value converted into a digital integer as monochrome data element in a raw frame. The point is that recognition AI AF relies on detailed images from photosites on top of the phase data. That does not work down to the reported lowest LV for "focusing" (using AF) to work.
I have many different cameras from Panasonic, Pentax, Olympus, Fujifilm and Nikon, i have both the Z6Ii and ZF for the same reason I have a XT5 and XH2, the bodies of the XH2 and Z6II and similar style cameras allows me to photograph with larger glass, and for photography i prefer a tilt down screen as it allows me to use an L-bracket without interference with the screen, with the ZF and XT5 style bodies you get a different photographic experience than a Z6Ii but with the Z6Ii i can use a wired remote and the Zf does not have that option, the SD memory cards are more easily accessible on the Z6Ii and it is easier to move the focus points when you have a dedicated control button as on the Z6Ii.
You have very valid point. The Z6II allows for more professional experience and easy of use and ergonomics, while the Zf is more for experience of a retro camera but with higher tech specs and what camera can do.
the files on the zf are so clean. i was taking shots in the dark and man. i’ve never seen cleaner files . simply amazing. i was shooting 1/15 speed band held and the shots had 0 motion blur. ibis is amazing
I had no problem shooting at night at ISO 51200 on Z6 and Z6ii, the DXO cleans them up. There is no reason Zf is any different. As to shutter speed, even at night I wouldn't go under 1/125, because even if your camera doesn't move, your subjects do. I used to shoot cameras w/o IBIS and don't find it a necessary feature.
Hey, which would you recommend as my D7000 is on its last legs. I’ll be needing it mostly for Street style photography during fashion week and everyday fashion photography (street style) and shooting influencers content (fashion/lifestyle) I’m thinking the Zf thank you
I had Nikon D7000 for a while long time ago. Defiantly the Zf is much much ahead. Day and night difference. Plus you can use your dslr lenses with an ftz adapter. The Zf is great for street photography, portraiture and more. Certainly highly recommend.
Sony Xperia 1 VI (16,24,48,85-170,2X macro, waterproof) only for fltravel or still get a Zf with 28-400mm? For fun and join contest and create art and maybe gig if possible tho haven't done yet?
Still image capture on both cameras (Nikon z6II and Nikon Zf) is 14-bit depth. So theoretically with the “same”sensor, jpgs should be there same. But there appears to be some difference is jpgs, probably because of the EXPEED 7 processor in Nikon Zf.
Nice video. Thank you. I currently have the z6 and an deciding between the z6ii and the zf either as a second body or just swapping for the z6. I don't shoot videos. Btw, may I ask where's your accent from? :)
Biggest problem for me that stops buying the ZF is because it doesn’t have the joystick…for my work I don’t rely on autofocus and way prefer single point , never lose a shot… that’s why still rocking Z6 and works perfectly… save the money and buy glass, way way better investment 👍🏻
I absolutely agree that glass is as important if not more. But after using Z9 which has a joystick, which I never need to use because if the Eye AF, the same is with Zf. Both cameras have nearly the same AF performance.
@@TouchLifeStudio all good, and I also had the Z9 and sold it. when you use the Z9 with that amazing autofocus on a wedding environment, its annoying when keeps focusing on different people, that's why for my single point focus is the best, its reliable because I am pointing exactly where I want it.
@alanjcravophotography4149 you can set up the touchscreen as your joy Stick Just drag your finger along the screen. When your eyes in the viewfinder. This is actually faster, then a joystick. And do you really need a joystick with the af capabilities of these camera ? Not really
@@natedagreat90 you missing the point clearly. I use EVF all the time, by the time you use the screen and finger to compose, you loose the moment. Plus, try and use autofocus on a wedding or event, that autofocus hunts on all the faces, except the one you want it to compose. good luck with your advice in using it in a real fast pace such like an event.
I like Zf Retro look to compete with Fujifilm cameras but there are so small design regarding back screen and in right side leather following design that I Don't like it compare to Fuji XT series and XPro2 designs. Although Zf is heavier, bulky and less Discreet in the street. Soon Z6III will come out and surely better than Zf and Z6II. So I will assume you will make 10 Reasons to choose between Z6III, Zf and Z6II :)
What is most impressive with the Zf is that it features the Expeed 7 CPU, which is at least 10 times more powerful. As a result the AF system is far more capable than that of the Z6 II or Z7 II. This also provides benefits in frame rates and video capabilities.
I enjoyed the Z6II and used it on many occasions. Z6II produces great results and I haven’t been disappointed. So far I use it also as a back up camera.
This video turned out not as a full-fledged comparison of two cameras with the pros and cons of both one camera and the other, but only admiration and elevation to the Zf absolute, I want to ask, where is the Cf-Xpress card, and the speed of shooting at tracking focus, where is the ergonomic grip, where is everything that is really necessary for a photographer every day, bloggers and so most shoot on Sony And Nikon is not needed at all under any circumstances, So, of course, you need to record content on RUclips, but you need to be an objective person.
Sorry to hear you think this way. The Zf is many generations ahead from the tech standpoint. Sure, CF express card and ergonomics would be great to have but this camera is meant to address another sector of photography which provides accuracy, image quality, aesthetics, everyday carry and more.
@@TouchLifeStudio People who buy Zf are tested on the technologies that will be used in the Z6 M3, and people who have Zf are beta testers of the technology.
The Z6 ii has been out for how many years now? There is a plethora of reviews and adoration for this camera. The Z f is quite new and is gaining popularity. Most of the reasons listed in this video are the same reasons I went with the Z f. I don't need CF Express. I bought a better grip for the camera, but found I really don't need it. The neck strap does quite well to ensure I don't drop the camera and I can use the camera as-is with ease. Ergonomic grip, as mentioned, can be bought. Even if the Z6 iii comes out, in my book, the Z f will still continue to be a top-contender. What is in this video is true. For me, the video hit home.
Planning to sell my x100v to fund this . I love Fuji but it’s time to move on. I’ve also owned like 10 Fuji cameras and some of the multiple time . I have previously owned 4 Z cameras . I find that Nikon is an easy transition from Fuji .
The number of tones represented by 10 bit vs 8 bit is per color channel. If 8 bit was 256 colors in total across all 3 RGB channels it would look like a cartoon!
@@jallen418 actually you don't get banding unless it's an extreme situation. More importantly, it's a totally misguided approach. I've never seen anybody watching an interesting video and in the end asking whether it was 10-bit -- it makes no difference. The reverse is also true, if your video sucks in 8 bits it will suck in 10 bits.
I get this comment a lot. To be very honest, for 90% of shoots when you light your subject properly, 8-bit works very well. Yes, 10-bit has more post production latitude but it’s not groundbreaking experience. Just my thoughts.
Z8 has its purpose but the fun of the Zf cant be duplicated. The Zf has its purpose as well. ohh and I second the low light of the Zf. cleanest files in low light and the IBIS is Amazing. I got some things to say about the Z8 when compared to the Z9 flagship. Allot has been said on other channels comparing Z8 and Z9.
It should be 10 reasons to choose Nikon Z6ii over Zf. The older Z6ii is better in practice in everything, except focusing, which is marginally better in Zf.
Sorry, but if it wasn't not for the flipping screen design I would have bought this camera. A vintage look camera with a flipping screen out is unacceptable!
I would certainly consider buying a Zf, however the announcement of Z6iii is likely to come in April with many of the same features, and possibly a bit more, so I will wait to compare this Zf with Z6iii on specs before buying, plus the price difference. But thanks for showing some amazing new features on ZF. Great improvements.
I believe that Z6III will be much more than most of us anticipate.
If they put the same articulating screen in Z6iii it will be a dealbreaker, wouldn't buy a camera with that awkward screen.
@@ElementaryWatson-123It is still up in the air if the screen will be tilt screen or flippy screen. Nikon reps I talked to last year at a camera show, say lots of videographers who are not content creators for RUclips filming themselves, prefer the tilt screen as it exists, so I don't know which it will be.
I better order a ZF soon because the TikTok crowd is starting to notice…
Seriously, Nikon will run out of cameras, like Z9 in the beginning.
Oen for me in exchange I make a logo for your photography business?
I have had the z6ii for 2 years now. I thought about getting the zf because of the video upgrades but I’m just going to wait for the z6iii now as I’m thinking it’s going to be an even more powerful hybrid camera. Very excited for the future for nikon.
I agree, Lucas. Z6III is going to be one of those more affordable hybrid cameras, cheaper than Z8 but still very capable. Excited about that release!
The zf is all about form factor
@@lucashillier8618
after the Z6iii release now I can say more strongly .. All we wanted is jst a Zf in a normal professional body
NO. You have to distinguish plain "AF" as doing focusing for you from "recognition AI AF". "AF" can still work in deep darkness (using phase sensor sites), but cannot take normal photos at that. Your image at 10:14 [1] is at LV 8.7 - that is 18.7 stops above LV -10 so there is 425,854.2 more times light than at LV -10 [2]
Recognition AI AF requires recognisable images from the sensor in order to work.
The LV -10 is outside the operating range of the camera where it can "measure" light, even.
With mirrorless, viewfinder, recognition AI AF, and shooting images are all directly connected.
[1] 1/640 sec @ f/2.8 @ ISO 1,600 @ ExpCorr -0.33
[1] LV = EV@ISO100
1/640 shutter speed doesn't make any difference, as the sensor readout for AF purposes is much slower.
@@ElementaryWatson-123- in a camera with a mechanical shutter and 1/640 sec exposure time, that 1/640 is the time the sensor was exposed to light. The AF system at low LV values can only use the phase sensors that can go to very low light levels, but for "recognition AF" you need the photographic photosites as well.
Such a camera may have a separate AF sensor, not behind the shutter, but that cannot do any serious form of recognition AI AF.
My calculation of LV as indication of light level has nothing to do with exposure time that you point to.
My mirrorless/mechanical-shutterless camera's sensor has a readout/scan time of 1/250 sec (4 ms) but that says nothing about exposure time either. The scan time is separate from the time the analogue photosites are allowed to build a charge in their individual analogue memory - which subsequently is measured (scanned, read) per photosite and then each photosite has its analogue value converted into a digital integer as monochrome data element in a raw frame.
The point is that recognition AI AF relies on detailed images from photosites on top of the phase data. That does not work down to the reported lowest LV for "focusing" (using AF) to work.
I have many different cameras from Panasonic, Pentax, Olympus, Fujifilm and Nikon, i have both the Z6Ii and ZF for the same reason I have a XT5 and XH2, the bodies of the XH2 and Z6II and similar style cameras allows me to photograph with larger glass, and for photography i prefer a tilt down screen as it allows me to use an L-bracket without interference with the screen, with the ZF and XT5 style bodies you get a different photographic experience than a Z6Ii but with the Z6Ii i can use a wired remote and the Zf does not have that option, the SD memory cards are more easily accessible on the Z6Ii and it is easier to move the focus points when you have a dedicated control button as on the Z6Ii.
You have very valid point. The Z6II allows for more professional experience and easy of use and ergonomics, while the Zf is more for experience of a retro camera but with higher tech specs and what camera can do.
the files on the zf are so clean. i was taking shots in the dark and man. i’ve never seen cleaner files . simply amazing. i was shooting 1/15 speed band held and the shots had 0 motion blur. ibis is amazing
Yes, the Zf has a new IBIS, which allows for that 8 Stops of VR.
Interesting I have both and I like my zf better I am going to sell my z62 and my z9 and keep the zf I like it that much
I had no problem shooting at night at ISO 51200 on Z6 and Z6ii, the DXO cleans them up. There is no reason Zf is any different. As to shutter speed, even at night I wouldn't go under 1/125, because even if your camera doesn't move, your subjects do. I used to shoot cameras w/o IBIS and don't find it a necessary feature.
after the Z6iii release now I can say more strongly .. All we wanted is jst a Zf in a normal professional body
Hey, which would you recommend as my D7000 is on its last legs. I’ll be needing it mostly for Street style photography during fashion week and everyday fashion photography (street style) and shooting influencers content (fashion/lifestyle) I’m thinking the Zf thank you
I had Nikon D7000 for a while long time ago. Defiantly the Zf is much much ahead. Day and night difference. Plus you can use your dslr lenses with an ftz adapter. The Zf is great for street photography, portraiture and more. Certainly highly recommend.
Sony Xperia 1 VI (16,24,48,85-170,2X macro, waterproof) only for fltravel or still get a Zf with 28-400mm? For fun and join contest and create art and maybe gig if possible tho haven't done yet?
I thought is, get the camera and lens that makes your want to take photographs and enjoy it for a long time.
does the jpgs file look better on the Zf?
Still image capture on both cameras (Nikon z6II and Nikon Zf) is 14-bit depth. So theoretically with the “same”sensor, jpgs should be there same. But there appears to be some difference is jpgs, probably because of the EXPEED 7 processor in Nikon Zf.
What about soft shutter release? How it feels? Lie on Fujifilm cameras?
It feels nice. I used a few buttons on Zf. At the end of the day it is just an accessory.
Nice video. Thank you. I currently have the z6 and an deciding between the z6ii and the zf either as a second body or just swapping for the z6. I don't shoot videos.
Btw, may I ask where's your accent from? :)
Biggest problem for me that stops buying the ZF is because it doesn’t have the joystick…for my work I don’t rely on autofocus and way prefer single point , never lose a shot… that’s why still rocking Z6 and works perfectly… save the money and buy glass, way way better investment 👍🏻
I absolutely agree that glass is as important if not more. But after using Z9 which has a joystick, which I never need to use because if the Eye AF, the same is with Zf. Both cameras have nearly the same AF performance.
@@TouchLifeStudio all good, and I also had the Z9 and sold it. when you use the Z9 with that amazing autofocus on a wedding environment, its annoying when keeps focusing on different people, that's why for my single point focus is the best, its reliable because I am pointing exactly where I want it.
@alanjcravophotography4149 you can set up the touchscreen as your joy Stick Just drag your finger along the screen. When your eyes in the viewfinder. This is actually faster, then a joystick. And do you really need a joystick with the af capabilities of these camera ? Not really
@@natedagreat90 you missing the point clearly. I use EVF all the time, by the time you use the screen and finger to compose, you loose the moment. Plus, try and use autofocus on a wedding or event, that autofocus hunts on all the faces, except the one you want it to compose. good luck with your advice in using it in a real fast pace such like an event.
Nice review. Because of this I'll go for Zf
love it brother . 10bit all the way Zf all the way. thank u for this awesome video for those undecided. i think the choice is clear.
Oh. Yeah. While 8-bit can do well with well lit saturations, 10-bit can really capture light gradient very nicely, I guess more “cinematic”.
makes no difference in practice
Yeah, good vid bloke. Pretty solidly sold in terms of capability and technology. Much appreciated fella. BZ.
Absolutely
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i second that !!!!
Well… thank you. You are very kind! I’m working to improve.
I like Zf Retro look to compete with Fujifilm cameras but there are so small design regarding back screen and in right side leather following design that I Don't like it compare to Fuji XT series and XPro2 designs. Although Zf is heavier, bulky and less Discreet in the street. Soon Z6III will come out and surely better than Zf and Z6II. So I will assume you will make 10 Reasons to choose between Z6III, Zf and Z6II :)
There are pros and cons to every camera I have owned. Not every camera fits all. Many factors to consider.
What is most impressive with the Zf is that it features the Expeed 7 CPU, which is at least 10 times more powerful. As a result the AF system is far more capable than that of the Z6 II or Z7 II. This also provides benefits in frame rates and video capabilities.
Absolutely! While Zf is not a Z8/Z9, it certainly more advanced than Z6II.
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Well said. I have both the z6II and the zf and the Z6II is my backup if my Z9 and ZF go down
I enjoyed the Z6II and used it on many occasions. Z6II produces great results and I haven’t been disappointed. So far I use it also as a back up camera.
@@TouchLifeStudioI had to send my z9 to Nikon in January of 2023 and I had to use my Z6II as my primary again and it did just fine 😊
why not to buy a z5 as well to backup your Z6ii, that would complete your set 🤪
This video turned out not as a full-fledged comparison of two cameras with the pros and cons of both one camera and the other, but only admiration and elevation to the Zf absolute, I want to ask, where is the Cf-Xpress card, and the speed of shooting at tracking focus, where is the ergonomic grip, where is everything that is really necessary for a photographer every day, bloggers and so most shoot on Sony And Nikon is not needed at all under any circumstances, So, of course, you need to record content on RUclips, but you need to be an objective person.
Sorry to hear you think this way. The Zf is many generations ahead from the tech standpoint. Sure, CF express card and ergonomics would be great to have but this camera is meant to address another sector of photography which provides accuracy, image quality, aesthetics, everyday carry and more.
@@TouchLifeStudio People who buy Zf are tested on the technologies that will be used in the Z6 M3, and people who have Zf are beta testers of the technology.
The Z6 ii has been out for how many years now? There is a plethora of reviews and adoration for this camera. The Z f is quite new and is gaining popularity. Most of the reasons listed in this video are the same reasons I went with the Z f. I don't need CF Express. I bought a better grip for the camera, but found I really don't need it. The neck strap does quite well to ensure I don't drop the camera and I can use the camera as-is with ease. Ergonomic grip, as mentioned, can be bought. Even if the Z6 iii comes out, in my book, the Z f will still continue to be a top-contender. What is in this video is true. For me, the video hit home.
Planning to sell my x100v to fund this . I love Fuji but it’s time to move on. I’ve also owned like 10 Fuji cameras and some of the multiple time . I have previously owned 4 Z cameras . I find that Nikon is an easy transition from Fuji .
It’s great to see how much Nikon offers with their latest cameras from photos to video features. Hope you get to enjoy your new purchase.
The processor of ZF itself has already made it a killer over Z6II
wait for the Z6iii to compare
I'm looking forward to the Z6III
Nice
The number of tones represented by 10 bit vs 8 bit is per color channel. If 8 bit was 256 colors in total across all 3 RGB channels it would look like a cartoon!
exactly
Yes, even 8 bit is millions of colors. Amazing you still get banding with millions of colors
@@jallen418 actually you don't get banding unless it's an extreme situation. More importantly, it's a totally misguided approach. I've never seen anybody watching an interesting video and in the end asking whether it was 10-bit -- it makes no difference. The reverse is also true, if your video sucks in 8 bits it will suck in 10 bits.
omg I really do not want that ZF, but the 10 bit video it´s making me consider it. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I get this comment a lot. To be very honest, for 90% of shoots when you light your subject properly, 8-bit works very well. Yes, 10-bit has more post production latitude but it’s not groundbreaking experience. Just my thoughts.
Ill wait for thr z6vii
Been saving my but off since December for one. Three hundred more and it will be mine!
Almost there my pal!
@@TouchLifeStudio got it yesterday, everything is pretty easy to setup, except setting up the auto iso thing has me stumped 😡
…the Zf is shite ergonomically…that is a killer for me…
After using it for a while, I’m getting used to the L shape bracket.
After seeing Z6iii
I felt All I wanted is jst a ZF in a normal professional body
Z6III is certainly more prosumer camera plus better ergonomics. But overall Zf is about 90% of Z6III
Sell both and get the Z8 and be amazed
Just canceled my order and staying with the ZF and the d850
The Zf is better in low light. Get one and be amazed
Yes, for low light, the Zf wins over the Z8. Is it a whole lot better? No, but half the price of Z8.
D850 is one of those legendary pieces of work. Many want to keep it, good choice.
Z8 has its purpose but the fun of the Zf cant be duplicated. The Zf has its purpose as well. ohh and I second the low light of the Zf. cleanest files in low light and the IBIS is Amazing. I got some things to say about the Z8 when compared to the Z9 flagship. Allot has been said on other channels comparing Z8 and Z9.
It should be 10 reasons to choose Nikon Z6ii over Zf. The older Z6ii is better in practice in everything, except focusing, which is marginally better in Zf.
isn't zf better for video, 10bit?
Seems to me like the ZF is all about video.
Sorry, but if it wasn't not for the flipping screen design I would have bought this camera. A vintage look camera with a flipping screen out is unacceptable!
I thought so too until I start using it. Most new cameras by Sony, Nikon and Canon will have floppy screen. Just give some time.
Z6iii comes out in the next few months...I'll wait
We all are waiting ….
What exactly are you waiting for? I've been shooting with Z6ii, don't see a problem, which would necessitate an upgrade.
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Unnecessary annoying music
There is NO Ý' in NIKON !
Zf sounds lame. Were they asleep? Why not Nikon X?