Mario 64’s Worst Water Stage: Jolly Roger Bay Vs Dire Dire Docks | Level By Level

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @Odyssey_Central
    @Odyssey_Central  7 месяцев назад +525

    WE GOT SUB 20 MINUTES 🔥

  • @Dynamic-FalconEditz
    @Dynamic-FalconEditz 7 месяцев назад +289

    1:19 He's evolving he used to mention Mario in Minecraft. Now he's mentioning Minecraft in Mario.

  • @MinnowTF
    @MinnowTF 7 месяцев назад +252

    Pros: Really makes you FEEL like drowning
    Cons: Too Much Water

  • @weird751
    @weird751 7 месяцев назад +105

    I like how SM64DS improves the first star of Jolly Roger Bay, where the Eel will just come out when you get close to it, instead of having to leave and then come back

    • @fraquero3192
      @fraquero3192 7 месяцев назад +23

      oh, phew, i thought i was having a mandela effect

    • @antonioaguirre5464
      @antonioaguirre5464 7 месяцев назад +18

      And not only that. There's an added Green Shell and Blue coins, plus the jet stream is stronger now.

    • @Rodanguirus
      @Rodanguirus 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@fraquero3192 I think between that, and a very early Prima-published Tips & Tricks book (that didn't even know the localized world names), I tricked myself into thinking this was how the original 64 version worked.

  • @zapzapfishes5878
    @zapzapfishes5878 7 месяцев назад +135

    The difference is, Jolly Roger Bay is an iconic setting with a great and haunting atmosphere, multiple adventurous setpieces, an use of adaptive music that is still breathtaking (eg. that moment you first dive under the water surface while the mist hasn't cleared yet), mostly inoffensive gameplay that is a relaxing break from all the usual platforming, that one eel that is an absolute legend...
    And Dire Dire Docks has it going for it that it is a very dire pit that also has a dock. It also has the music being named after it for some reason.

    • @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od
      @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od 7 месяцев назад +22

      Jolly roger bay is much better than dire dire docks imo

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 7 месяцев назад +19

      DDD must be a nepo baby cause no way in hell does it deserve to be the name of the song instead of JRB

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@thejedisonic67
      Apparently in Japanese it’s just called “Water Land”
      So it won by being so generic that it describes both levels

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sumthinorother9615 Waterworld actually, not that that's much better lmao

  • @Shog64
    @Shog64 7 месяцев назад +56

    15:30 pannenkoek explained that the rings geometry is buggy so it is not only your imagination

  • @owengonzalez6819
    @owengonzalez6819 7 месяцев назад +49

    I really wish the sub in Dire Dire Docks was used more. If we could go inside and fight a boss, that would be WAY cooler than just climbing the sub. Makes the name “Board Bowser’s Sub” inaccurate. Also, that STUPID HOLE THAT SENDS YOU OUTSIDE THE CASTLE. I want to love this level more; it has so much potential

  • @Jethro-goro
    @Jethro-goro 7 месяцев назад +8

    15:21 The manta rings are actually bugged, their actual orientation often doesn't match their visual orientation (sometimes by as much as a full 90 degrees). Pannenkoek has a video showcasing this on his uncommentated channel.

  • @lotus8709
    @lotus8709 7 месяцев назад +43

    Everyone knows Wet Dry World is the clear winner amongst water levels in this game

    • @e-duh3529
      @e-duh3529 7 месяцев назад +11

      One of my favorite levels in the game

    • @richardperaza5083
      @richardperaza5083 7 месяцев назад +1

      Unless you’re Nicobbq

    • @Exquisite_slurper_of_milk
      @Exquisite_slurper_of_milk 7 месяцев назад

      I dread going there tbh

    • @skakirask
      @skakirask 7 месяцев назад

      This, but unironically

    • @Jose10614
      @Jose10614 7 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly, I was expecting someone to hate on Wet-Dry World in the comments but was surprised to see the love for that course. Wet-Dry World is one of my Favorite levels! I’ll be honest, I love all the levels especially the water levels. If I have to choose a particular level that’s my favorite it would be Hazy Maze Cave! (I love Jolly Roger Bay and Dire, Dire Docks both the same)!!!

  • @orca7895
    @orca7895 7 месяцев назад +12

    Fun fact! The manta ray star is just broken. The ring's visual is rotated correctly, but the rotation for the hitbox swapped 2 of the axes. This means sometimes they line up (like with through the jet stream) but other times its completely perpendicular. Always swim through the dead center to avoid missing a ring.

    • @orca7895
      @orca7895 7 месяцев назад +2

      Source: Pannekoek (ruclips.net/video/O6rfLIyyZsU/видео.html)

    • @joosthuibregtse8143
      @joosthuibregtse8143 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@orca7895 Pannenkoeken zijn heerlijk!😁

  • @PlatinumComet
    @PlatinumComet 7 месяцев назад +28

    Hot take: Jolly Roger Bay is overhated.
    The music and eel definitely carry most of the enjoyment factor for me, but I've never had any issue with swimming throughout the level. The low level of hazards help to give it this ominous, yet comforting vibe as you go through the water -so long as you're not playing as Wario in the DS remake.- I also enjoy the environmental storytelling where the drab gray sky lightens up a little after getting the first star, but still keeps the semi-eerie atmosphere throughout the rest of the level. I know people like to hate on water levels, but I've never had an issue with this one.
    Dire Dire Docks though... at least it's better than Rainbow Ride. :^)

    • @obledoesstuff
      @obledoesstuff 7 месяцев назад

      hello fellow beefy die fan

    • @skakirask
      @skakirask 7 месяцев назад

      I agree. JRB is fun. DDD is repetitive

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 7 месяцев назад +23

    The people who chose this over Cool Cool mountain and Snowman’s land don’t believe in winter

    • @Mr_w1ggler
      @Mr_w1ggler 7 месяцев назад +2

      What's winter

  • @JhonEricZD
    @JhonEricZD 7 месяцев назад +18

    Idk why i was so terrified by the most stupid stuff in this game, like Scuttlebugs or the DAMN GIANT HOLE ON DIRE DIRE DOCKS, seriously, that entrance for the submarine used to be one of the most horrifying things ever

    • @fletchlegacy
      @fletchlegacy 7 месяцев назад +4

      Bro so it wasn't just me who used to be scared of that hole??!!!!!!

    • @yektaagra741
      @yektaagra741 4 месяца назад

      You're valid to be scared of that. A hole that just sucks you in that you cant even swim out of if you get a lil close? And that it has no visuals to show it would do that. Its very unintuitive for SM64 but its kinda realistic considering how deadly water currents and pressure can be. Look up Delta P

  • @shyguyissoawesomeguys
    @shyguyissoawesomeguys 7 месяцев назад +27

    holy shit we finally got a video that is moderately shorter than the others
    odyssey is finally understanding how to not yap as much

  • @AlbertBoris
    @AlbertBoris 7 месяцев назад +49

    I always had a soft spot for these levels personally! Although swimming is definitely tedious in this game, the atmosphere, music and theme always won me over lol!

  • @osberswgaming
    @osberswgaming 7 месяцев назад +19

    One thing you can’t argue though, Jolly Roger Bay would make for a great mario kart track
    (at least for the theming)

    • @AlbertBoris
      @AlbertBoris 7 месяцев назад +2

      For sure! Although the music would perhaps have to be re-worked into something more frantic...

    • @osberswgaming
      @osberswgaming 7 месяцев назад +1

      ALBERT BORING WTF

  • @M2_Unknown
    @M2_Unknown 7 месяцев назад +7

    Jolly Roger Bay: *Creepy Aesthetic*
    Dire Dire Docks: *Joyful Aesthetic*

  • @dannyeleternity7390
    @dannyeleternity7390 7 месяцев назад +51

    Dire dire docks vs Jolly Roger bay: which flavour of poison would you rather chug?

    • @JacobMendez-d5b
      @JacobMendez-d5b 7 месяцев назад +6

      jolly Roger bay

    • @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od
      @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od 7 месяцев назад +2

      I would rather have it jolly roger bay flavored but both are gonna kill me

  • @Columbia809
    @Columbia809 7 месяцев назад +12

    Finally, a video less than 20 minutes! Odyssey is finally doing his job!

  • @jyllianrainbow7371
    @jyllianrainbow7371 7 месяцев назад +3

    I like the swimming levels. They're so calming and chill. It's a nice break from the platforming.

  • @ethantreadway9478
    @ethantreadway9478 7 месяцев назад +5

    18:43 Moral: Mario 64 does a good job at Swimming but the levels weren’t done well.

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar 7 месяцев назад +7

    Graduated from college today and we get a Wet-Dry World video, my dinner is gonna be incredible!
    Love how weird this place is!!!

  • @MisterDoctorProfessorPainbrush
    @MisterDoctorProfessorPainbrush 7 месяцев назад +69

    Even though I'm not too big a fan these 2 levels, I must admit, they have the single best song in the game right next to Staff Roll, it's just so comforting for me that I seriously gotta give them props.

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 7 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed. I may not care for these levels. But the music is some of the best underwater music of any video games. Right up there with Aquatic Ambience from Donkey Kong Country, Bubblaine from Odyssey, Cosmic Clove from Galaxy 2 & more.

    • @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od
      @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od 7 месяцев назад +4

      I would argue its one of the most iconic music pieces in all of gaming

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 7 месяцев назад +4

    9:36 I don't know why but for some reason the way you said "There's a box" just be cracking up and playing that part repeatedly

  • @Lisanicolas366
    @Lisanicolas366 7 месяцев назад +3

    I love how you edit your videos! I always laugh at every reference or funny thig that you edited in, great work :DD

  • @ElectricFury
    @ElectricFury 7 месяцев назад +3

    6:50 This really confused and frustrated me when I played for the first time in 3D All Stars. The DS version has the eel swim out in front of you like you'd expect, and I've played SM64DS countless times since I was like 7 years old so it felt so weirdly counter intuative to swim away in the og version

  • @chambeet
    @chambeet 7 месяцев назад

    Your Level by Level series, along with the Deep Dives into Sunshine levels another RUclipsr is doing, are some of my favorite videos.
    Please, never stop! These are GOLD!

  • @fletchlegacy
    @fletchlegacy 7 месяцев назад +2

    Bro the big hole in the 2nd area of Dire Dire docks used to terrify me when I was younger. I used to think somethin crazy like a bunch of unagis would come out of it

  • @doccaterpie
    @doccaterpie 7 месяцев назад +3

    i had no idea those 5 coins in DDD existed and i've been playing this game my entire life

  • @charlesverg2184
    @charlesverg2184 7 месяцев назад +2

    I disagree I think both water levels are amazing, they really make you feel thalassophobia and fear of drowning, while at the same time instilling wonder and awe in your heart, sure the swimming is slow and not precise, but it makes everything even more suspenseful and intense, specially because oxygen is running out, I love it.

  • @jackofarcades2813
    @jackofarcades2813 7 месяцев назад +12

    "I don't hate the star that much"
    **puts star at the bottom of tier list**

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 7 месяцев назад +55

    If he doesn’t make fun of Rosalina in his 200k special we riot

    • @BrianCannan-em1nk
      @BrianCannan-em1nk 7 месяцев назад

      She’s not in a 2D game

    • @maxezzy1282
      @maxezzy1282 7 месяцев назад +6

      ⁠@@BrianCannan-em1nk technically she’s in Mario maker 1 as a costume 🤓👆

    • @MrGamerX48
      @MrGamerX48 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@maxezzy1282 He said that Mario Marker won't count for the video 🤓

    • @tibby4503
      @tibby4503 7 месяцев назад +3

      He'll find a way

    • @maxezzy1282
      @maxezzy1282 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrGamerX48 lol i was joking

  • @fernando98322
    @fernando98322 7 месяцев назад +3

    Level By Level comparing the 64 worlds vs 64 DS worlds could be interesting

  • @calvinstoneman4434
    @calvinstoneman4434 7 месяцев назад

    Honestly, between your editing, delivery, sense of humor, and amazing content I’m always shocked you’re not at 1mil.. can’t wait to see you get there 😁

  • @Mateuszundev
    @Mateuszundev 7 месяцев назад +3

    i was expecting a foxy jumpscare when you said "spooky" at 2:03

  • @dbypro
    @dbypro 7 месяцев назад +2

    From my perspective as a speedrunner, I consider DDD to be the worst stage in the game by a landslide. It definitely has some competition from Rainbow Ride, but it really robs the game of most of what makes it interesting, and unlike JRB, it fails to make up for that with a particularly interesting aesthetic or memorable stars.
    They both have very similar issues on the gameplay side, but among the casual playerbase, *everyone* remembers the Unagi, or the sunken ship, or the treasure hidden in the cave behind those super intimidating falling pillars.
    Besides the sub, does any casual player ever think, "Oh, yeah! Dire Dire Docks! I loved the two separate stars whose entire gameplay gimmick is to grab the metal cap, which is a rehash from JRB in the first place!"
    There's also the Manta Ring star, which is literally glitched in an incredibly unintuitive and frustrating way. And while not an issue for casual players, any speedrunner will tell you how DDD100 + Reds is *SUPER* difficult. Potentially the hardest star in the game.
    All my homies hate DDD

  • @RadicalKongsyom
    @RadicalKongsyom 7 месяцев назад +2

    As the one dire dire docks fan, I get why people hate it. But when I think about it, I always think of the time I tried to skip pressing the switch by wall jumping to the pole platforms. I distinctly remember being proud of myself when I did it.

    • @RadicalKongsyom
      @RadicalKongsyom 7 месяцев назад

      I’ll always think of those times instead of the tunnel. I also loved thinking about how bowser could’ve infiltrated the castle through the hole in dire dire docks.

  • @thejedisonic67
    @thejedisonic67 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thought about making a ranking level for all of the original levels that were made for Mario 64 DS. They all aren't normal level sized, but I think there's some interesting ideas for a few of them, given that the DS version came out almost a decade after the original

  • @Tsa_Miceloa
    @Tsa_Miceloa 7 месяцев назад +19

    odyssey cereal

  • @Lazy_Gato21
    @Lazy_Gato21 7 месяцев назад +7

    Odyssey finally did a short vid 😂

  • @joshslater2426
    @joshslater2426 7 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to have a video on some more of the later game stages like Tall Tall Mountain and Tiny Huge Island. For one reason or another (mainly because I haven’t tried to complete Mario 64 much), but I often forget these stages even exist sometimes.

  • @elkarlo1593
    @elkarlo1593 7 месяцев назад +2

    Would Wet Dry World count as one of the water levels?

  • @Supaluka_77
    @Supaluka_77 7 месяцев назад +1

    I needed something to watch while on the beach thank you

  • @Youraveragemobilegamer-l4o
    @Youraveragemobilegamer-l4o 7 месяцев назад +3

    16:13 was the best part

  • @itsnathan9131
    @itsnathan9131 7 месяцев назад +1

    Everytime i watch these videos i feel like this guy should really become a public speaker cause he has a good personality, sound convincing, funny, and everything needed for a good PS especially in a persuasive speech

    • @Quaxo21
      @Quaxo21 7 месяцев назад

      B-But Mario!!!11!!1!

  • @joevaghn457
    @joevaghn457 7 месяцев назад +1

    6:36 WTF??? I have memories of the eel jolting forward at your if you get close enough, swerves its head around, and slowly slithers out. Was that memory wrong? LOL wtf, I see it clear as day in my mind. Edit: maybe I'm thinking of the other eel star, but I SWEAR I remember it with the ship too. hahaha

  • @nintendoboy3605
    @nintendoboy3605 7 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I dont get: Why are water levels the most consistently hated levels in all of video games?

  • @notchmath9642
    @notchmath9642 7 месяцев назад +1

    What is the music playing around 9:00?

    • @Odyssey_Central
      @Odyssey_Central  7 месяцев назад

      Gang plank galleon - Donkey Kong Country (Smash Ultimate remix)

    • @notchmath9642
      @notchmath9642 7 месяцев назад

      @@Odyssey_Central Thank you! I’ve seen it in MkWii hacks a lot but never known what it is and loved it!

  • @derekrequiem4359
    @derekrequiem4359 7 месяцев назад +2

    Even though I like all the courses in the game, my vote for the weakest goes to Dire Dire Docks. It's really small and doesn't have much going for it, plus swimming through the tunnel 5 or so times quickly gets tedious.

  • @mrfearpty
    @mrfearpty 7 месяцев назад +1

    I will literally watch wathever you upload, I'm addicted

  • @DarkLink-gn4xr
    @DarkLink-gn4xr 5 месяцев назад

    6:01 Which IS the Zelda song used here?

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic 7 месяцев назад

    I literally had no idea that grabbing Koopa shells underwater was a mechanic until like a decade ago when I saw it show up in romhacks. I could never get Mario to grab them when I played on console and just assumed it was a little Easter egg of showing that clams are predators of Koopa Troopas.

  • @noahppinkrevail
    @noahppinkrevail 5 месяцев назад

    4:12 Beach Bowl Galaxy, “am I a joke to you?”
    Same goes for Cosmic Cove from Galaxy 2 btw

  • @tristanalain9239
    @tristanalain9239 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wait...
    People think Jolly Roger Bay is creepy?
    And bad?
    What rock have I been undee my entire life?
    I always saw this a serene mysterious level with beauty ans soothing music.
    One of my favorites in the game.

  • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
    @Jelly_shy_guy_man 7 месяцев назад +2

    Rant time, haaaa, DIRE DIRE DOCS ISNT GARBO because the song, it feels like the donkey Kong water song, it’s just so calming I love it, it feels like the 2000s of the nostalgia, btw thb who am I to say I was only born 14 years ago, like it feels like it belongs in a liminal space com, and I love how scary it is, but I get scared if someone sings RICKROLL IN A DARK AREA, yeah I’m a wimpy kid, but also the green it feels like when you turn down the render thingy, and also water tastes good so that’s why I love the level, oh god is this comment long, YOU BETTER READ THIS ODD IS HE CENSORED, and also the ohnogy guy scared me even tho it was Mario galaxy which scared me, also now that I’m yapin about Mario galaxy I remember when I was 6 and deleted my brothers save file in 2015, oh yeah I played Mario galaxy in 2015 because that Minecraft and pvz were the only games I had, like the comment reply sub to odyssey central or I’m throwing my cult of the lamb fan made Lego kit at you

  • @jedisalsohere
    @jedisalsohere 6 месяцев назад

    you have no idea how tedious these stages can be if you've never subjected yourself to a wario run of mario 64 ds

  • @KnucklestheEcidna
    @KnucklestheEcidna 7 месяцев назад

    the eel perfectly growls at me and leaves the ship's window just fine whenever I get to that point.

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 7 месяцев назад

    I adore Jolly Roger Bay. Part of it is because I’ve had a personal passion for swimming underwater ever since I was a kid. The music and colors make JRB just magical and very relaxing to play in.

  • @Weezing336
    @Weezing336 7 месяцев назад

    The eel terrified me but having Boos show up in the castle and the picture that changes from Peach to Bowser were just as freaky.

  • @JustTheCrustier
    @JustTheCrustier 7 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't watched the video yet, but if cool bowser doesn't make an appearance I will riot

  • @noireisbest6786
    @noireisbest6786 7 месяцев назад +1

    Huh, but snow is water. Doesn't that mean that there's actually 4 water levels? Or 5 if we count Wet Dry World?

  • @mrds4545
    @mrds4545 7 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats odyssey! This is only 19 minutes and 57 seconds and not 20!

  • @redyyz4489
    @redyyz4489 7 месяцев назад +4

    I honestly prefer DDD over JRB

  • @Ghost.girI.
    @Ghost.girI. 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think you could maybe take into account the order youre supposed to go through these levels. For example Jolly Roger has very basic and simple stars which could seem dull but its meant to be one of the earliest levels so it's basic by design while Dire Dire is going to have a lot trickier platforming and tricks and it's going to be more engaging.

  • @DetournementArc
    @DetournementArc 16 дней назад

    I adore the first water pool in Dire, Dire Docks. Kind of wish there was a water level with Jolly Roger Bay's scale but all those sea creatures.

  • @Dento64GD
    @Dento64GD 7 месяцев назад +1

    I know this is random, but can you make a video about the Satellaview?

  • @alecrutz956
    @alecrutz956 7 месяцев назад +1

    (jolly roger bay 100 coin star) oh boy, lemme tell ya about my experience with this one.
    When I was a kid, I was going for this star, and ended up spending maybe an hour just swimming around JRB stuck at 99 coins, looking for ONE more coin and couldn't find it. I ended up checking on super mario wiki to see it, only to find out that because I missed the one blue coin, I had to restart. needless to say I do not like that star to this day

  • @SuperNickid
    @SuperNickid 7 месяцев назад

    @Odyssey Central: In Super mario 64 DS plunder in the sunkin ship they fix that issue by making the eal leave the ship when your near by, but since by then you will be almost out of air, they change the inside of the ship to just one chest to open because of that reason. The Ds also make the rest easier by making the slop walkable, unlike the N64 version you have to swim to the box before it drain, or else your going to have a really hard time to get up there unless you know about crawling, or you spam jump kick in the case of speed running.

  • @SuperNickid
    @SuperNickid 7 месяцев назад

    @Odyssey Central: In Super mario 64 DS in dire dire dock, it is just called inside the cage, since it is impossible to have metal and vanish cap ability at the same time, since Wario have the Meta ability and Luigi got the vanish ability. But why the hint of collecting both the metal cap and vanish cap, two reason why your metal it will take less time to reach the cage since when you land on the see floor you can move quicker also the other reason is to avoid getting suck out, if you don't align properly with just the vanish cap you will get suck right out and appear outside the castle in the water near the wood bridge, meaning you will have to walk back to the front of the castle if the water is not drain yet, just to go back at the start of the basement just to swim back to that anyoing tunnell, in the Ds version since you are force into using vanish only the getting suck out is less strong.

  • @zanmolecules4105
    @zanmolecules4105 7 месяцев назад

    18:10 what is the song?

  • @belvont
    @belvont 7 месяцев назад

    16:40 i love how u used the new minecraft music here

  • @istrasci
    @istrasci 6 месяцев назад

    Things that terrify me about SM64:
    - The eel
    - Dire Dire Docks whirlpool of doom
    - Dire Dire Docks black hole
    - Tiny Huge island swallow-you-whole fish
    - Getting swept away by the current in the Metal Cap switch area

    • @Jose10614
      @Jose10614 5 месяцев назад

      What about the piano🤔

    • @istrasci
      @istrasci 5 месяцев назад

      @@Jose10614 Nah, the piano's nothing compared to the rest of those.

    • @Jose10614
      @Jose10614 5 месяцев назад

      @@istrasciAlright. Fair enough😊
      When I was a kid , Big Boo’s Haunt scared me. But to each their own!

  • @bewareking6458
    @bewareking6458 7 месяцев назад +2

    Really don't understand the Jolly Roger Bay hate that it gets. The atmosphere and music are really fitting for that level.

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond 7 месяцев назад +1

    100 coins on Jolly Roger Bay is amazing compared to 100 coins on Dire Dire Docks
    Dire Dire Docks is so damn greedy with its coins you’d think Wario were running it

  • @TdwtK
    @TdwtK 7 месяцев назад +4

    Just have him drink the water 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @blicxyuwu
    @blicxyuwu 5 месяцев назад

    I was today years old when I learned that you can combine the caps. I had no idea that was how you were supposed to beat it lol :3

  • @MrsAjergirl
    @MrsAjergirl 7 месяцев назад

    I've played and replayed Mario 64 a bunch of times since the 90's. And I did not know until TODAY that Dire Dire Docks had a line of 5 coins at the top!

  • @Davtwan
    @Davtwan 7 месяцев назад

    The hitboxes on the rings from the manta ray are misaligned via rotation. Going through the middle is your best chance on making them count.
    The sad part about the tunnel that it’s required due to it being a way to unload one zone and load the other. And even then, the second zone is a bit laggy when the sub is in view due to there being too many triangles.
    Dire Dire Docks definitely needed more work.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 7 месяцев назад

    I do kinda hate that simply due to video games being so novel at the time of creation that they simultaneously didn't expect people to be skilled enough to get things done fast yet made things blatantly overly difficult or frustrating (these two levels having great examples of both issues)

  • @stevienicksisafreakinglege4413
    @stevienicksisafreakinglege4413 7 месяцев назад

    I always loved these two stages because they didn't have death pits (minus the whirlpool in DDD) and found the fish and manta ray enchanting. I don't know why but I always wanted to scuba dive in Dire Dire Docks!

  • @hyperfairy7779
    @hyperfairy7779 7 месяцев назад

    question: how would you rank the the jet stream stars, and collect the caps by doing them the intended way instead of exploits/ tricks?

  • @zeaferjones1404
    @zeaferjones1404 День назад

    I think Jolly Rogers Bay gets inspiration from the Mario RPG sunken ship.

  • @GoldenSandslash15
    @GoldenSandslash15 7 месяцев назад

    Fyi, the long tunnel in Dire Dire Docks is necessary due to N64 technical limitations. The course is too large to fit on a single N64 map, so they had to split it in two, and the tunnel is a way to hide that the area you left has stopped existing. The tunnel in Wet Dry World is the same.

  • @miguelgarces8946
    @miguelgarces8946 7 месяцев назад +1

    I always get nervous anytime I just look at that giant hole from Dire Dire Docks. Why is it even there? What purpose does it serve? It is actually the only thing I remember about DDD.
    OC, if you really want to play as Dry Bones, forget Smash Bros. and play Mario Kart DS, Mario party 8, Super Mario Party, and/or Mario Tennis Aces. Those games are better.
    Here's another good video idea: Ranking all main members of the Kong family.

    • @dbypro
      @dbypro 7 месяцев назад +1

      The giant hole is actually for Bowser's sub to enter and exit through. It doesn't open until after you grab the star from the sub and it leaves.

  • @4dojo
    @4dojo 7 месяцев назад

    I thought that i was the only one who thought that Dire Dire Docks was a little eerie.

  • @algotkristoffersson15
    @algotkristoffersson15 7 месяцев назад

    12:52 you forgot star #1.5 "board bowsers sub, but you have already grabbed it once so now the sub is gone"

  • @teaoftraffic
    @teaoftraffic 7 месяцев назад

    also, something about ddd
    You may have noticed a considerable frame drop in the Submarine room when it’s present.
    Well, Nintendo decided to make the sub’s collision *DYNAMIC* instead of *STATIC* like the rest of the collision in the game.

  • @MTPandSarah
    @MTPandSarah 7 месяцев назад

    That’s probably why 64 DS version of Jolly Roger Bay have 128 coins for whatever reason but it still doesn’t change the fact that it a water level

  • @brutusmagnuson315
    @brutusmagnuson315 7 месяцев назад

    A water mobility power up/cap would’ve made these bangers.

  • @cattooma
    @cattooma 7 месяцев назад

    I think it's a missed opportunity to not mention 64 DS differences in every aspect

  • @thesnazzycomet
    @thesnazzycomet 6 месяцев назад

    you should do a video like this for mario galaxy. I think its a lot harder choosing a straight up bad main galaxy

  • @mitchelldingodilehomie4230
    @mitchelldingodilehomie4230 7 месяцев назад +3

    Trys to make a shorter video and it still is almost 20 ish minutes

  • @simonesf86
    @simonesf86 7 месяцев назад

    Odessey:Alright time to make a REAL short video...
    *makes a **19:53** long video*
    Odessey:...Yup! Good enough for me! Now to make a 19:49 long video!

  • @starlite5154
    @starlite5154 7 месяцев назад +1

    damn for once this isn't like "ranking every texture in mario 64"

  • @LovelySoftSnow
    @LovelySoftSnow 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think this guy hates tunnels

  • @ecstaticwooper368
    @ecstaticwooper368 6 месяцев назад

    the main takeaway from this is SM64DS STAYS WINNING BABYYY LONGER DRAW DISTANCE AND MORE STARS 🔥🔥🔥

  • @newenglandsun4394
    @newenglandsun4394 7 месяцев назад

    YOU PICK UP THE KOOPA SHELLS?!? I ALWAYS JUST HOP ON THEM AND SURF AROUND WITH THEM.

  • @austiinxvi
    @austiinxvi 7 месяцев назад

    I actually quite enjoy Jolly Roger Bay although the limited coins on the level is a bit cheeky. And Dire Docks always kinda feels like a chore to get through for me.

  • @batmanbud2
    @batmanbud2 7 месяцев назад

    My prediction of the ratio of water levels in the bottom half of the 2D Mario ranking vs the top half: 16:1.

  • @TheLoginatoR
    @TheLoginatoR 7 месяцев назад

    i'd say rainbow ride is better because at the very least you CAN skip the boring parts with difficult jumps but in the water stages you're forced to swim for prolonged periods of time
    if you wanna be objective about it though i'd say all 3 stages deserve to be right next to each other in D Tier