Math Hoffa on Umar Johnson Saying Eminem Can't Be a GOAT, Vlad Responds to Umar (Part 1)
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Vlad and Math Hoffa discussed a variety of topics in their recent interview, including Dr. Umar Johnson's comments about Eminem. Johnson claimed Eminem can never be a 'GOAT' because he isn't Black. While Math Hoffa disagreed with Johnson's assertion, he also emphasized the difference between lyrical proficiency and the directness of one's message. 
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EMINEM CAREER AND THE MARKETING BEHIND IT IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST MEDIA CONSTRUCT AND ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED RAPPERS OF ALL TIME.
The sports analogy is a bad analogy..... we didn't invent the sport....but black athlestism is reason we where allowed to participate. However, from a lyrical perspective....if he was black, he would be just another nigga that could ryhmn....after all he sounds like bigpun and trech!....buts sense I'm not rich and famous I can't debate you on this.
And Vlad still not making a school , he just a cornball
Math got on a t-shirt, a hoodie, motorcycle vest, and a pea coat… Money is starting to take a hold of him 😂😂
And a fanny pack 😂
It's cold dummies but ya right though lol stop pocket watching!!! What Cam and Mase said?
@@melissarose7711 leads to ear hustling, leads to pillow talking
@@melissarose7711 hes literally holding his pocket in your face
Fr people with money think they can rock what ever, crazy mfs
“Being white ain't why they put me at 5, it's why they can't put me at 1”
- Eminem
Eminem also said “If I was black I would’ve of sold half, I aint have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that.”
You don’t have to draw a invalid Venn diagram to see that contradiction.
@@loveafrica9253 So you are saying to be the best you have to sell the most records? 😂🤣😂🤣 man shut up. What is your point here? Comprehension skills is a must children.
@@darrenreynolds1715 First off, don’t disrespect me. Stick to the argument. My point is simple, the Goat conversation is largely based on subjective reasoning. We can’t conclusively determine a Goat because everyone best rapper criteria is not the same.
So you have to use empirical data to be consider into the Goat conversation. Eminem understand that by him being white he’s music would sale to the white majority in America, which would make him more marketable overseas. The same tactics that Elvis,Vanilla Ice and Snow used to be successful.
Those two lyrics are a direct contradiction, because if he was black he wouldn’t be considered the Goat in hip hop. Eminem would be in the category with Lupe, Black Thought, AZ, Kool Moe Dee and countless other phenomenal black lyricist.
He will never b a goat in my eyes
@@PR-WAY No one gives 2 f's about what u think lmfao
At least Math on point enough to call vlad out on his completely unrelated shots at Umar
I like how Math dodged Vlad's Bs but you can tell that Math's loyalty only lies with who helps him financially
Of course. What do you mean you like hemorrhaging funds and being broke?
That’s probably the most excited I’ve heard Vlad since the prone to homosexuality question he asked Aries Spears the other day. 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I swear
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Another funny thing did the black race invent the language they spoke when they first created black music in America no it's all been done in white cultures language the game was already Eminem's regardless yall stole the language to have a voice he stole the game simple 🐐
Another funny thing did the black race invent the language they spoke when they first created black music in America no it's all been done in white cultures language the game was already Eminem's regardless yall stole the language to have a voice he stole the game simple🐐
Dude is mad messy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like when Math sees through the bullshit. Vlad uses appearances with guests to voice his own opinions (usually taking shots) at other people. Usually he gets the guest to join in, this time Math called it what it was.
Exactly
U can see through the bs of that 🇷🇺 small hat wearer...
leave em alone, man lol. whether you like his shit or not, he's one of the few mainstream rappers out who genuinely gives a shit about this genre and its history.
@jconny65 see now what you said makes more sense than what anybody on here said. Each of YOUR points is spot on but, in my opinion, that doesn't make him a goat or better than 90% of the greatest rappers of all time
The funny thing is all the black race only did was just create a game and called it black culture music like WTF are they smoking over there 🤣 did they not know what language they been speaking the whole time when they first created it in America its all used in the white English cultures language 🤣 black race stole the language Eminem just stepped in and stole the game that was already his to claim regardless 🐐
@@johnjrbethea4990 So there are 90 rappers better than him? delusional
@@johnjrbethea4990name those better 90 rappers. I’ll wait.
Eminem is in my top 20 after number 10
“Vlad this has nothing to do with me!! U using me to take shots at this man”… they was laughin but… 👀
GREAT call out by math.
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Math keeping it real 😂 don’t bring him into your beef vlad lol
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And the school is there been there for years.
He bought the school didn’t build it.
Vlad full of lies.
I'm irish, em is not my favourite rapper but he will go dwn as one of the goats in terms of his global success and respect.
is ur number one an Irish rapper?
I love how Math Hoffa handed the bait Vlad put out there!
Lmaooo Vlad mentioned it and told em his response out the gate
@@AliFrankTheTank That's what he always do lol😄
Who bump Eminem in there car is crazy
Bumpin Eminem in your car is wild crazy
"Im nooot afraaaaaid to take a stand" 😂
I say the same thing. Who bumps him in the car, while they cleaning the house, while they shower, while they getting ready to go out, when they need motivation, when they in the club, when it's your birthday etc. point of the matter is never, how are you the goat when nobody bumps your music consistently. If you said Pac, Biggie, Jay, Nas, DMX, Rakim, Scarface, Lil Wayne, LL, Big Daddy Kane etc then that's a discussion. If he wasn't white none of y'all would say that. He ain't doing nothing Kendrick Lamar, Twista, Busta Rhymes, Tech 9 etc can't do and he rap about the most off wall weird white boy shit. Killing ya own moms and baby momma and overdosing on pills. Get the f out of here with that bs
Your favs perform on clubs while em sold arena and stadiums lol 😂
@@SerenaOsas you bump Eminem in your car? Which race are you?
If y'all haven't realized yet Math Hoffa is an industry person now
Yea it’s called success lol
Great work fellas, that’s what we want! We wana see u guys on each others pods. Love it 🎉
The narcassism by Vlad is next level lol Math is like, we should form a media illuminati....Vlad - We do already cuz I'm doing all these other interviews lol Can Em be the GOAT rapper? Vlad - Well my name was brought into it because of a school .....man what?!
hahaha
It's like watching my nephews play make believe with their figurines. Except ones a disembodied voice and the other has on more layers than an onion.
Since when are we looking for Vlads response to current events?
frfr tho
You’re on his channel right?
I been saying the NBA argument forever. Facts
NBA is not culture it’s a sport. Hip hop is talk walk dress dance etc…. It’s how we live. Just like Latinos have their music dress talk walk and dance. Let keep it 💯 so much shit has been stolen from black in this country Jack Daniel’s , self lubricating engine etc… how do we know who really invented basketball or any spot in the United States so stop.
Imagine if only white people was in the nba? Nobody would watch.
It’s not all that great of a comparison tbh
@@cognacjacksonit’s not unfortunately bc music is more subjective and a sport like NBA is more official bc they have a determined winner at the end and they also have stats but you can argue that individual player stats can sort of compare to record sales/streams for an artist. then championship games can be compared to big name aoty awards like the grammys and such
@@jay-robthagod2301 you're kinda proving my point. If you compare those stats then yes it's definitely believable that Eminem is the goat based on stats record sales/streams/accolades. Sports also isn't exact one definite anyway because people still argue Jordan 6 vs LeBron 4. More wins with 1 team vs Less wins but more teams. So yes it's a perfect comparison
The basketball argument is good
I see VLAD got him away from that drum set this time.😂
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Crying
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As a black man, even though I can’t put Eminem at number one, he definitely contributed to hip-hop culture. he definitely has a spot on my list of favorite rappers. math Hoffa is right, I also disagree. since when does race determine whether or not you’re good at something
Eminem trash..Talks about absolutely nothing
HOW!
@@CraigThompson-eb4fu probably now, but not in his prime
@@CraigThompson-eb4fu that’s where you’re absolutely wrong. He has talked about a lot of shit in his music and people who don’t know what’s up show him being white is why they don’t mess with him. Yes he’s made a lot of silly songs yet what rapper hasn’t? Even Lil Wayne don’t saying things in his music now these day as well as a few other black rappers as well. He may be trash to you but don’t act like you know what’s up about him knowing you show you don’t mess with him.
@@JaredThaBoi tell me anything dude said that meant anything in our community..Dat shit bullshit
Shout out to you Math for not playing into what Vlad was doing there. Because at the end of the day Dr. Umar is only passionate about the betterment of his people. We don't need anymore William O Neals out here. Someone could be helping certain people elevate themselves and that person will turn around and kill the person trying to help them and their family. Insanity.✊🏿💪🏿🤞🏿💯
Mad respect for real
Vlad bringing up doing a flashback before doing a flashback was literally the most real life Family Guy moment I've ever seen.
Vlad on DrinkChamps gon' be a snoozefest
Eminem is the Taylor swift of hip hop his fans arent even from the culture and they arent even hip hop fans.....
Eminem could drop a album with fart sounds and it would still go diamond......
Exactly why Pac is the GOAT. Record sales Don't fucking matter in the GOAT category. If it did then that's even more proof why Pac is the GOAT because he wasn't around when they had Industry machines and the Internet. People actually went to real stores and bought music back then.
So now the problems are his fans,, ur right,
If hip-hop is a hood thing,
By all means keep it then in the hood, everybody knows the hood is trashed, and only ppl who will never accomplish anything are the ones who will need to feel proud to be from the hood and stay in the hood , but we all know here in Cali how things work, the baddest mathafucks would never take u seriously, no joke, my respect to OGs doin Life, it's funny that u know about Taylor Swift, I have never heard a full song from her, I'm sure u have
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That shade over the school funding has Umar The completionist vibes
The interview hit different when the drum set in the background
Eminem ain’t on nobody I know list of best rappers..period.
Thas crazy he on everyone list I Kno usually 1 spot to
People gotta stop getting upset with opinions. Eminem will definitely go down as a goat. But he probably ain’t even in my top 50 of people I’ll listen to
This!
Not about Eminem, we disagree there (he's in my top 10), but about the more important point about stop getting upset over an opinion.
People fail to realize they are handing Dr. Umar a huge by hwtting butthurt about what he said. If no one gave a shit about that opinion it would have died as soon as he said it.
There's an independent rapper that blew up, does bigger numbers than most industry rappers and became worth over $20 million, at least $5 million is off of youtube and he credits half of that to his haters. The people who claim to hate his music the most watch every single video he puts out, and all the reaction videos, just so they can leave a comment talking shit... even though comments help boost videos. People love to be upset.
It’s not about who YOU listen to. It’s about overall greatness.
@@ch33zybreadtrellie4 you missed my point
Want a Fucken hero cookie
@@ch33zybreadtrellie4em is not overall great he just got good rhyme scheme and that’s not what hip hop is all about
The moon made of mayonnaise 😂😂😂😂
ALRIGHT HERE WE GO
It actually shows Vlad's calibre, the platform is all yours, you could have easily respond by yourself rather than using Math Hoffa's session to do that. A cheap shot that could backfire on Vlad in the near future
Dr Umar have good points. But a lot of Hip Hop Fans think Eminem is the goat. Just Like My Opinion Is 2PAC Makaveli Is The Iconic G.O.A.T. Enough Said.
3:48 Math got caught in the crossfire 😂😂😂
Math be keepin’ it 💯
“My name got thrown in the mix”
I can’t stand a mf that’s so thirsty to talk about they-self all the time
Math Hoffa staying on code!
What? This is completely OFF code …f u talking bout
Im assuming you're being sarcastic
@@williemazehaze8673🤣🤣
He might not be "on code" but he is being logical and reasonable about the topic.
Dude's wearin' my man's jacket from Beat Street
Ahhhh here we go with Umar Johnson aka “Mr get on the bus” 😂
The man had a right to his opinion. Em isn’t in my top 20. But that’s my opinion. I don’t listen to Em, because he doesn’t move me like that.
Black people can not relate to that stuff Eminem be talking about....I don't understand why they are saying this....give me an Eminem song that a black man can listen to and be like.....yeah....I'm feeling this........we 2pac....jayz....biggie....Nas...50 ...AZ....Ugk....Outkast....ll cool j....bad boyz.....eightball...Mjg...three six mafia...run dmc....I can keep going ...about dudes that comes before Eminem....in my opinion....by the way I'm a song writer and I'm not racist
Rap has gotten political. I dare ONE RAPPER to say that they don’t listen to Em. His career will be over.
Vlad does know that umar isn’t some millionaire and you don’t know how much donations he’s getting at a time. He’s a regular guy trying to raise $2 million to open a school not to mention how much more money he’s going to need after it opens to keep it running. Taking a shot at the school is corny
Stfu you & Umar are corny
"Yeah, my name got thrown in the mix"...always about you Vlad
Good on Math Hoffa for not allowing Vlad to use him to fire shots at another Black dude! Fight your battle!
Lord Jamer (and several others) have spoken this truth & had to deal with the bullying Stans.. Which only adds to the point being made.. We love ALL our goats in hiphop (ie. the black community) but when have we ever tried to bully or cyberstalk anyone into calling our personal favorite The Goat? 🤔 We don't do that.. See, thats a whole different type of colonial energy that the European Stan brings to the table.. That is un-hiphop.. Its Imperialistic..
Race has nothing to do with talent
Unfortunately in 2024 we give voice to people that shouldn't have a voice in the first place to say that actually race has everything to do with it especially in hip hop, plain ignorance but so is the state of rap hip hop at this moment in time ignorant and missing quality and substance.
3:48 Brooo I'm crying 😂😂
That was hilarious 😂
Lol dude vlad is seriously interviewing himself everytime
Salute to my brother Math 🙏🏾 💯
Let go math 🎉
Why they took down Dr umar interview 🤔
Maturity on display …..Math Hoffa…salute###
Once your a repeat guest it's no longer just about you. You're now here to entertain vlad and us with current events lol
Vlad on drink champs is gone be 🔥
Math An iLL one, an em put me onto his show in that interview, when I wasn't really looking at youtube much
Vlad is about to be Umars neck for the whole month of january with Flashbacks and tweets
Good fuck the racist pos
I would put Em in the top 20 but not the top 10, and it has nothing to do with his race. I just think that he is extremely good at what he does but he covers a narrow niche, and he doesn’t have the impact of people who came along and revolutionized rapping like Rakim and KRS One. Heck, I think that LL Cool J is a greater rapper than Em because of LL’s impact, skill, range, etc. I think that Em himself would pay respect to all of these guys as being greater than him.
Em wouldn't disagree with you
I think EM had a greater impact than LL but I also think EM is a better lyricist than LL.
@@dwbkmjmust be young. LL impact was crazy
@@flacko_jody2130 nope 45. I was around for LL but I also recognize the truth and EM put the most artist than LL and expanded Hip Hop world wide.
A narrow niche? The whole planet knows Em. If that is not impact, i dont know what is. Stop measuring impact in America, measure it globally
Yeah yeah Hoffa is back on Vlad , how we do Hoffa Gang stand up 🫡🫡🤴🏿
Finally man.
Is Tiger Woods considered the greatest golfer of all times by his golfing peers/analysts?
Dr Uma got that drip
Man that damn school ain’t gone never open
In my top 5 Eminem most definitely in it. He’s one of the best rapper lyrically. I do believe there is the “anomaly effect” when it comes to Eminem because we never seen a white rapper spit the way he spit. So there’s curiosity about him. He has mad skills and flow. He has such a respect for the art of rap and a student of it. He shows a lot of homage to those before him in his music and does it so cleverly. But all in all he’s a GOAT! 🐐
Dr Umar is a real black
He's corny. Makes corny music. Name 2 respectable solo Eminem songs...
@@thatguy2.09 stfu that’s why he’s at the top 🔝 your favs are below him cope harder
If 2pac,Biggie,Big L, Big Punisher, Heavy D etc was still alive would Eminem be in your top 5?
@@thatguy2.09 stfu that’s why he’s always at the top while your favs are below him em 🐐
Not gonna say he “can’t” be the goat. He just isn’t.
Why would anyone ever read this message when I clearly have nothing to say. And then there this guy who’s still reading it
Vlad is the master of black on black
there is no skin color, race, creed or religious background when it comes to G.O.A.T
either you are the greatest or youre not. thats it...
doesn't matter if you are competing in a so called black arena, a so called white arena.
arena meaning it was predominantly for a certain race or sex at one time .
the GOAT is the GOAT...
yes there is. i dare you to post a black jesus and see what what happens. say the best muslim was a blck man and watch the middle east have a fit
People keep trying to make the sports analogy but it's not equivalent. Art is subjective, and sports are objective. Em being the GOAT is a matter of any individual's opinion based on whatever criteria they choose.
is Math smarter than that?
Do a new video speaking on the school footage
Math Hoffa seems like a cool dude...respect
I don't think vald knows how much it cost to build a school and pay staff members. Plus umar isn't getting any support from no black celebrities. Vald isn't putting things into context
I ain't never in my life heard nobody in the car riding listening to Eminem
Because they're all in sell out arenas
You probably ride around with a bunch of black people who hate white rappers.. Your little bubble isn't what the whole world does
@@davemcg915 damn you killed him lol 😂😂 em one of the illest rapper ever
@SerenaOsas haha...I never understand the car comment...I've seen it a few times!!..I thought it was a teenager thing trying to impress people with music out the car 🤣🤣🤣 oh and in London.. you hear Em regularly from people's cars...AGAIN..he ain't heard nobody from his area.. but WORLDWIDE..his music is legendary
@@davemcg915 em haters come up with everything things lol 😂 mfers don’t no how global em is
So what is the calendar for, That pertains to his New school year/ students? Was he lying about the announcement for the openin?
Eminem doesn’t give a F about no Umar Johnson’s opinion I can guarantee 😂
I went to highschool with Dr. Umar. I stand with my Scotland School and Philly brother
Well ya should stand with England school cause ya been speaking in white English culture ya whole race existence in America
@@PaidStarOnly😂😂😂😂😂
Respect math for not getting involved in this. I don’t agree with everything Dr. Umar says, but his voice is needed. He says things that people in his position are afraid to say.
like what? I have never heard anything he says that makes sense
Math shutting that down is more important than his opinion on Eminem if you wanna talk importance of the interview 😆
My comment dissappeard
I can't believe that all these black men are coming to Eminem's defense, but won't support and defend the young black males that Dr. Umar is trying to educate through his school. They are proving his point of how the focus of unifying our culture is lost and how we are divided based on American society. @KingKongConsciousness you have more support than you know. Right now, all that matters is our youth! ✊🏼
math aint FBA so it makes sense.
What school? it has not been built yet, now about his so called teachings I would love to debate you on anything he has said
Check out the adventures of moon man and slim shady...he talked about Ahmaud Arberyy and the police brutality..what more man's gottta do?
@@Peopleofthesun386 Debate for what, my opinion has been shared without reservation anything else is wasted energy. The point is that no one is fighting this hard for what creates real value in life and that's educating our youth during an academic crisis across the nation especially with black children. Now if you need to rebuttal, feel the need to debate with yourself and enjoy.
School 😂😂
I dunno. I'm always gonna say Pac was by far the most influential most versatile greatest rap song writer of All Time. Lets be honest now that we have decades to see who is really GOAT status Wayne should be strongly considered because hes been doing GOAT shit for soooooo long and he can bar another GOAT down lyrically frfr.
Fair points made there. Tupac influenced Eminem and I'm sure Em and Wayne have influenced each other a bit over the years too!
Fair enough
The major influence Pac owns is (not in any particular order) 1: The tattoos. He wasn't the 1st, but It meant something as a rapper to have tats on the neck and belly nore specifically. 2: backwoods. Pac brought that style from NY they wasn't Rollin those especially hella big until Pac showed em. 3: Glocks. Especially having 2 on you. 4: Hennesey 5: Nose rings. This is another NY style, but notie how many women in their 50s who love Pac who have daughters who wear nose rings today. The daughters wear nose rings too. 6: having a personal medallion jewelry. B4 Pac we had Slick Rick n Kane n others who rocked personal gold. Pac in the rap game made it another thing that became essential to have. His euthanasia chain. And the Death Row Chain. Etc. Now think about all the rappers and groups chains that came after and what it meant up until this very day. 7: The Diss Track, and actually dying from it. Hit em Up was a shift in Diss tracks. Now you had real death and infidelity with your enemies wife's. These were no longer just lyrics they were facts. Pac made that shift. Now look @ how rappers today some of them talk real asf like right on the track with zero filter. And have died from some sort of beef evolving fucking the enemies wife and murder. 8: To sing on a track or do melody. Once again Pac made it mandatory. Ambitions AZ a Ridah, Shorty Wanna be a Thug, Just like daddy, Toss it up, ( he wrote kc n jo Jo's parts. And his vocals are laced on it very low.) Etc. 9: conscious rap songs became a must if you wanted to be considered elite. Brands gotta baby. Dear Mama, Dear Mr President, so many more. That's y you gotta go listen to niggas albums and see if they have range and variety. Great Adventures of Slick Rick, Slim Shady LP, Get Rich .... all showed perfection top to bottom because like Pac the had perfect selection. 10: The most perfect rap album of All Time Makaveli. Was the 1st rap album to use Pro Tools. Yep it became a thing when they did it st. Now look at how dudes have fl studio, and even bandlab...etc. I can go on and on and on about how Pac influenced. Look at how Wayne's library of raps is sooooo deep. Pac started that in Oakland when he was putting down Hella tracks everyday.
Styles P doesn't get the respect and credit he deserves. He will Bar niggas down frfr. I don't know how he's so slept on. Smfh Ghost is on the All Time Top 10 Bar Niggas Down List.
Wayne could be the GOAT He's sooooo fuckng good bro. If Aliens came down to rap battle humans for the fate of the universe I'm choosing Wayne 1st.
Vlad has a way of ensuring that even some of his most respected guests sink to his level. Lol
Yeah he is a liar
My man out here looking like bambatta
yea he's ONE of the greatest. There's no definitive answer, everybody is going to have their own taste and criteria but he's up there
Never understood the Em goat thing & to me, any legendary black rappers/Hip Hoppers who even says he's top 25 are sellouts unless you strictly mean who he appeals to with nothing to do with sound, relatability, flow & connection to what typically made great rappers great. For example, just speaking of one rap group with many members, is Em better than Mef, Ghost, Gza, Deck, Cappa, Killa Sin, Hell Razah, Fes Taylor, Lord Superb & Wu Syndicate just to name 11?!!? I don't think so! So how he gunna be a goat when you add others like Biggie, Nas, Rakim, KRS1, Slick Rick, Pac, JayZ, Qtip, Busta & Mobb Deep just to name another few?!!? What happens if I add Phaoroh Monch, Ghetto Boyz, Kendrick, Lupe, Griselda artists, Black Thought, 8 & MJG, Mos Def, Trag Khadafi, Chuck D, EPMD, etc??? For best, in regard to what matters, wouldn't that be like 0 & like 32?!!? So then where would Em fit in as a goat???
This is all opinion based, and everyone has an opinion. Some even have radical opinions; such as DUJ.
I have this feeling you dont even listen to half the people you named
Yo I can honestly say I don't see why Jay-Z is considered like one of the best, he's cool but just never heard anything that would make me begin to see why ppl call him one ofnthe greatest, the big pimpin song was ehh to be honest was gay as f
You said em ain't better than fes Taylor? Lol ok to each is own, I'm not a Em fan but he better than half your list by far...
@@sakebomb5446 that may be your opinion which any mature adult would have to respect whether it makes sense or not. For me, it's deeper than an opinion because culture is at the root of it. For example, it's many peoples opinion worldwide that the ancient Egyptians were white & original Jews cannot have been Black. At some point, when does historical accuracy matter more than the opinion of those who decided to hijack cultures?? To me, the whole Em as some goat idea is the foundational building block that will allow it to be said many years from now that hip hop/rap was originated by whites. The argument may start years from now so that, culturally speaking, it doesn't appear as if Blacks were the originators seemingly light years ahead of cultural innovation
Math dropping the ball not getting Dr Umar on his show
WHERES HIS DRUM . WHERES HIS DRUUUM 🥁
Vlad be clout chasing 😂😂
It’s easy to take shots a man trying to create a long lasting legacy .. the school is real it is there it will open .. the timeline has been off but shit don’t go as planned but let’s not diminish what he’s trying to accomplish
Taking donations for a school and taking donations for vladtv are 2 totally different things
I agree with Umar but definitely not for the same reasons 😂 he’s defaulted to saying Em can’t be the goat due to his skin color. Em isn’t the goat because there’s artists before,during, and after him (JID and a couple more) that are much more well rounded rappers than him. Em is relatable, lyrical as FUCK, and extremely marketable. But now you add that with a better stage presence, progressive topics (that are very hard to get people to look at) and social interactions…you get Kendrick and Cole. Those guys are pushing that goat conversation in their directions.
😂JID is nowhere near Em and Eminem is much better than Kendrick and Cole, idk wtf people are smokin these days.
Better stage presence hahaha you ever seen a crowd go so crazy for another rapper as they do for em
I do think Kendrick is a more sophisticated and mature artist, and his art is much more pure and intellectual than Em's a lot of the time. I think the thing with Em is he doesnt really know much about anything outside of hiphop and his own place in it. He cant do normal club songs cos he never really was a club guy, cant do normal love songs cos hes spent most of his life in a toxic relationship with his baby mama, and he so that leaves him a pretty narrow (but amazingly unique) space. tbh the fact we talk about him means that hesn forever embedded. Theres no on from Ems era that has anything like the popularity that man has maintained.
Two unpopular opinions to finish with tho haha.
Cole is incredibly overrated to me, not as a lyricist but as rapper/ entertainer. I get bored listening to that man. He just doesnt have that star quality that you see in artists as big as him. His flows and delivery are good but nothing special. Lot of the production is average. He comes across more like a dude who just works really hard and has the rewards to show for it, which he deserves. But I dont think he has any albums that will get much play in 20 years. I think hes carved himself out a good space because of how crazy the last 10 years of rap have been. People like hearing a chill relaxed dude talking about doing his chores and shit :)
The other one is Kendrick, Kendrick is the real deal, one of the best lyricists and storytellers in history. Secton 80, GKMC, To Pimp A Butterfly, Damn, even Unmastered.. I only truly fvxk with the first two but I couldnt argue with someone who put any of those others on their classics list. Kendrick impacted the wider world, but hes not actually that influential a rapper. Theres dudes clearly influenced by him, like logic or jid, or Baby Keem. But nothing changed when he came in.. Tupac, Big, Em, Kanye, Lil Wayne, Gucci, Chief Keef, Drake, these guys changed the landscape. In his defence, Kendricks is like Yoda and probably doesnt care at all about this shit. lol
@@DumbBaby Em can do what Kendrick does but Kendrick can't do what Em does.
@@Krep336 I gotta respectfully disagree. You got It backwards. Kendrick can definitely do what Em does, Em can't do what Kendrick does. I mean technically he could but it wouldn't be received well because he's white. Em can't say nigga in his raps it would be career suicide.
Eminem cannot be a GOAT regardless of colour too many better rappers with better content
Give me the drop on your fav rappers better than em and some projects for me to checkout
@kier1800 I'm no connoisseur I just listen to what I like not bothered about other opinions scarface , prodigy, Tupac, biggie smalls, krs1, nas, method man ,ice cube, rakim dmx the game and most probably many others
@@ahmedshah2145 cool bro. Everyone is subjected to their own opinion and i respect yours. Cool list
@@kier1800 👍🏼👊🏼
You cannot compare music to sports. That’s a terrible comparison
Next headline: Em donates to Dr. Umar' school.
This is where,I have to get outta the car. I’m not riding with Math on this one at all!!! I’m down with Dr.Umar on this one %1000
Really ?? So we take that logic and boxing and basketball and football no blacks can b the goats ?
@@terrancejacobs1274its official. John Stockton and Larry Bird are better than Jordan and Bryant. You heard it here first.
The sports angle definitely debunks umar Johnson’s argument for sure
Facts
Facts it’s kinda hard to respond to it
The Mayans was playing though. Learn your history
@@Ishbikes Mayans ain’t black
@@Chiraqfan. damn sure ain’t white.
Sounds like The Justin project 😂😂😂 That joint is never dropping. I Had to Math cuz I couldn't help but think the same they said about Umar school lol.
Vlad tv revamping that guest in the house of hiphop debate
Math, he didnt say Em couldn't be top 5. Said cant be #1. He also said Em is talented
Because he's white....that's the whole point
@@davemcg915yes hip hop is black culture
@@motor4958 and basketball is white
@@davemcg915 yep whites own it
@@davemcg915congratulations 🎊
Finally , daddy’s spending time with me
Em can't be the goat of hip hop... His lyrics are phenomenal but due to his content he can't be labeled as the greatest... It's culture... Same way too short can't be