Hip-Hop was NOT created by or kept alive by mtv. It was the other way around. And mtv DAMN sure didn't launch Michael Jackson into anything. His talent shot him to greatness.
Facts 😅, local rappers were selling music from out the trunk of their cars and to stores " selling out" ...in memphis dudes was selling plenty of rap music, sometimes that local rap was selling better 🤷 than the world wide rap down here ,but rap music period was always popular
Not surprising that a culture vulture like Vlad would try to spin that lie! Which is why we need to stop letting these vultures who do not respect the culture, yet eat off it, in.
@sidneywilder2731 Right, he's acting like rap was still only popular in New York, and mtv introduced hip-hop to the country. I'm from New Orleans and we were watching video music box too. We also had our local rappers down there way before Cash Money and No Limit blew up in the 90s. Did rap benefit from mtv? Sure. Did it need mtv to survive? Hell no.
Vlad has to be the most narcissist person who doesn’t take information when he’s delving into other peoples culture. He still wants to be right. He does the Stephanie Smith thing where he downplay them, and then tries to give them minimal props after he’s cut their legs off at the knees.
@@ultramag0343Pac had 6 albums (One of them being a double album) between 1991-1996. 3 of them are undisputed classics. He’s most certainly in that conversation.
Sorry. We let him in our house. We gave him power. He is not racist cause he sleeps with black women right. He is white and Jewish. They have to own the house. We created him. Too late.. he is getting worst. I like his platform as a whole but. He is a narcissist. No one will stop him or check him.
Mtv is not what it was without the talent. They didn’t want to showcase black music until they seen how much it was thriving without them, then thought started showing it to overthrow the smaller platforms. Business 101 right
Groups like 36mafia and memphis rap from the 90s, was selling units ,without MTV or BET, the music was so popular, a lot of them dudes were making music that was popular and selling too " unique sound 👌, but rap was popular all over the US,
I can only name one black samurai that was renowned... idk what math is talking about saying all of the best ones were black. When is Yasuke ever put in the same regard as someone like Miyamoto Musashi or any of the other legends
You guys need more research the entire Shang dynasty had blacks ruling it as warriors....psalms 83rd chptr. Show the conspiracy of the whole earth covering up black hebrew dominance..
Rap wouldn’t have died out, rap has always been a product of the streets Whatever blows up in the streets makes it mainstream but whatever is mainstream don’t always translate to the streets MTV definitely helped but it wouldn’t have been the ending of rap
From the late 80s, in memphis tn - the underground rap scene was something else, memphis was a hit spot for rap music " lots of rappers selling their music from out of their trunks ,or to local stores and nation wide,and the music was hot 🔥 and different !!! as well, Crunk music, but it wasn't called Crunk, it was just rap ,but the music was different from west and east coast, but anyway, people were faithfully buying the product, the rappers, the stores ,and they was doing that in memphis without MTV, MTV was mostly just NY rap 🤷
My neighbors and I did not have cable all the time to see hip-hop videos daily. Some months we did and some months we did not. You always have one friend or a group of friends to record the videos for you aka VHS tapes. Anyone here from Philly, South Jersey, and Delaware all remembers watching Urban Expressions on Saturdays. That was our Video Music Box. We had to wait until Saturday nights to fake the funk about music videos. It was extremely awkward when my friend in high school asked me if I watched TRL yesterday? I had no idea what it was because I did not have cable. This was TRL at it's height of the boy band phenomenon. Thank you to Urban Expressions that show helped and save many of the Philly youths.
Video music box and Yo mtv raps definitely lit the flame but rap city carried the torch,i used to rush home from school to watch rap city so i wont miss anything...i miss those days.
Growing up, we thought Elvis was the best when it comes to rock n roll. This is the same mistake Umar is tryanna point out when we say eminem is the best to our new generation... get it???
Any rapper in the top 20 could have a case for being the best,and he's one of them like it or not sadly,I don't mind I'm Tech 9 lloyld banks and do like Em so I'm cool with that,talent skill dont see colour
Hip Hop wouldn't have Died out without MTV, but it would have not reached the whole country and world wide as soon as it did. MTV was World Wide. Video Music Box was only around the NYC area. Back in the late 80's House Music was bigger than Hop Hop and look where House music is at now compared to Hip Hop. So you just never know what it would have been without MTV
Idk math just lost credibility here. He said all the best samurai were black wtf. I can only name 1 famous black samurai Yasuke and he is never put in the same regard as people like Miyamoto Musashi, Kojiro or any other ultimate legend
@@SWHunte401 I never said he had to be black or he couldn't have his own opinion LOL. To me it just sounded like he was downplaying Video Music Box's influence during that era a bit
Math's jacket is ugly as hell. It looks like it is made from steel wool. 😂😂😂 People wear sunglasses indoors to hide thier eyes when they lie in interviews.
Ain't no way you can compare gogo ro hip hop! Only DC had gogo, hip hop was spreading in every state in America before MTV and video music box!!!!! FACTS
Out in the country in a lot of the places in the south we didn't even have cable, but the music still made it to us. Relatives would bring cassette tapes down south and local access radio hours and the strength of the music and its message would have not let hip hop die. MTV just let it grow faster. Now everybody has hip hop at the tip of their fingers. Garbage content is hip hops biggest threat.
@@absolute7250 yeah, I'm just saying I don't think hip hop would have died, or would have been relegated to a region like go go. It was already spreading like wildfire before it made it to MTV. It would probably be in a more pure form had it not made it to MTV, but that's a different rant, for a different video, lol.
@@FMJIMAGES can’t compare hip hop to gogo. Hip hop is a culture not just a genre. And gogo is just party music. Hip hop you can talk about your experience.
At that time Hip Hop had already been in the West coast both North & South AND the South & Florida. it may have taken longer but it was NOT going to be stopped.
Yo! MTV Raps was impactful and universal. I rem., we had to wait late into the night to watch it. I was in Africa and the time difference was huge, about 6 - 8 hours.
Vlad gives me a headache with how ignorant he is. Michael Jackson was an International Superstar before MTV was even conceived. He was a little kid doing shows in London, Italy, Germany, Japan, had done about a dozen albums with Jackson 5/Jacksons, more than half a dozen solo albums.. like gtfoh. Secondly, people consumed music through a bunch of different mediums like radio, dub and mixtapes, word of mouth, live shows, etc. Video shows were relatively new at that time as a complementary thing to the music but not the other way around where music somehow dies without video. He's so preposterous man it's unreal lol.
@@CDB51416 I didn't get this till 2012. And I must be slow.. " Fuck the state pen we fuck girls from Penn State" So simple idk why I didn't get right from the gate.
Biggie may have only had a couple of albums but literally now, in 2024, I’m writing this in January but March is almost here so I’m just gonna say, 27 years later we are still debating if he’s one of the greatest. Idk how that doesn’t speak volumes. Biggie & Pac were so undeniable their names are still CONSTANTLY in debates, decades after their existence. THE ARGUMENT HAS LASTED LONGER THAN THEIR ACTUAL LIVES. I’m sorry, that was literally maybe 30 seconds of this video but I just had to get that out.
The channel is nothing without the product!!!! Math is 💯 percent right MTV's exposure was powerful but the content that music displays will be powerful no matter what market distributes it!!!!
Wrong, when MTV started playing hip hop, hip hop was a very small genre, mainly NYC area ect. Without MTV it wouldn't have gone world wide because people in other states wouldn't have heard of it right at that moment maybe years later and the momentum would have been different.
@@EdwininfanteLeocadio I believe another platform wouldve picked up on it regardless just due to the purpose amd marketability of the genre!!! To each is own I just feel like money follows mastery and any big musical talent/genre will find its marketplace
@@PreciseProgression97 have you heard of Freestyle Music? Well let me tell you that in the late 80's it was at the same level of Hip Hop in the Radio Stations ect around the East Coast, and that Genre of Music Died out, just like House Music did and it was at one point bigger than Hip Hop. There was Clubs here in NYC exclusively for house music, like high end clubs that the rich people go to and hip hop was getting played only in small places in the hood at that time.
I watched MTV Yo! Raps here in Scotland, UK when I was younger. That's how far their reach went. I've never heard of the stations or channels that Hoffa is mentioning.
I don’t disagree with special Ed. Big first album really didn’t take off that well until P Diddy super promoted Big and put him on like 20 features. Big first week record sales on first album was super mid
Math doesn't get the point that Vlad is making. Ralph McDaniels and Video Music Box was shown only in the tri-state area of NY, NJ, and CT. Those 3 markets only. It may have given Oprah a run for it's money in those three markets, yet the U.S. has 50 markets by state, and can be broken down even further by regions within those States. Video Music Box can't compete with Oprah on a National level. Oprah was shown in all 50 States. The same with Yo MTV raps which was broadcaated in all 50 States, and Syndicated internationally. While it was a big part of Math's life, most people outside of NY, NJ, CT, never heard of Video Music Box! Unless a relative made a video recording of the program and sent it to family and friends.
Video Music Box was local in the NYC metro area yes correct. But the point he is making was at that time in hip-hop MTV was an outsider to the black culture which was Hip-hop. Video Music Box premiered in 1983. Hip Hop started where South Bronx by who? Blacks and Puerto Ricans. When did hip hop start 1970s? Yo MTV Raps didn't air until 1988! MTV never wanted to showcase black artists. MTV knew Video Music Box regardless if only being local to the NYC metro was still a major problem to them and Video Music Box stayed on their necks until MTV Raps died! To be in second place in ratings next to Oprah is a major deal regional local or national it still counts. Oprah back then was a juggernaut in the early 1980s. It doesn't matter if YO MTV Raps was national It was never for black people. BET City came out and by that time YO MTV Rap was on life support. Rap City had a 19-year run. MTV Raps 1988-1995 Video Music Box still on the air. Video Music Box supported local real hip-hop from NYC and Philly. Until other major markets popped it was just Philly. Don't say it was LA or Georgia it was not! Philly which was the second largest marketing at the time for hip-hop. By then Urban Expression videos came out, with major support from the number one hip-hop station in Philly Power99fm, and Powerhouse. There was no Summer Jam back then. All the major hip-hop events was either took place in NYC or Philly back in the day. Real hip-hop came from NYC not MTV's corporate office.
If you’re not from outside of the US you don’t understand the power Yo MTV Raps had on the globe. VMB was the catalyst definitely. I think these guys were arguing for different points.
Basically Video Music Box was the blueprint to Yo TV raps and because Video Music Box was doing large numbers in NYC. MTV saw the impact of Video Music Box and decided to create Yo TV raps on their platform. Coming from NYC I always tuned into Video Music Box everyday afterschool and Saturday's at noon. I understand where Math Hoffa is coming from.
Stop it BIG is one of the nicest his prime was cut short but it was still long enough to get the gist of how talented he was his music aged much better than Pacs
Both there music has aged gracefully 💯not Eminem’s 💯I went back and listened to the Marshall mathers LP and slim shady LP I can’t rock with that shit as a adult
I gotta agree with Vlad. Ralph McDaniels had a successful show but it was New York. I grew up in Chicago i didn't hear of his show until after 2010 on a documentary or something. Not to take away from it but it was local. MTV was everywhere. Hip Hop could've been like House Music. Just local to certain regions. (I hate GoGo)
Hip-Hop was NOT created by or kept alive by mtv. It was the other way around.
And mtv DAMN sure didn't launch Michael Jackson into anything. His talent shot him to greatness.
Facts 😅, local rappers were selling music from out the trunk of their cars and to stores " selling out" ...in memphis dudes was selling plenty of rap music, sometimes that local rap was selling better 🤷 than the world wide rap down here ,but rap music period was always popular
Not surprising that a culture vulture like Vlad would try to spin that lie! Which is why we need to stop letting these vultures who do not respect the culture, yet eat off it, in.
@sidneywilder2731 Right, he's acting like rap was still only popular in New York, and mtv introduced hip-hop to the country. I'm from New Orleans and we were watching video music box too.
We also had our local rappers down there way before Cash Money and No Limit blew up in the 90s.
Did rap benefit from mtv? Sure. Did it need mtv to survive? Hell no.
@@lnapjr76 you're absolutely correct
MTV brought hip hop to a wider audience
Then BET brought up artists from other parts of the country.
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Maths mindset is so small it revolves around New York only
One thing I notice about Math Hoffa is he think he’s never wrong
Foreal tho an thinks NY is better then everyone else
That’s that Brooklyn 💩😂🤣
@@PR-WAY I’m from Harlem and I know to take accountability when I’m wrong
@@franklynmcgradycalderon977yeh man that's it no matter where your from
Everyone thinks they are right. Until proven wrong. Big difference.
Vlad has to be the most narcissist person who doesn’t take information when he’s delving into other peoples culture. He still wants to be right. He does the Stephanie Smith thing where he downplay them, and then tries to give them minimal props after he’s cut their legs off at the knees.
If I was stuck on a remote island, I would rather have Biggie's 2 albums than Drakes whole catalogue
Yeah, I agree. But, big isn’t a goat! He is a great rapper, it takes more than 2 good albums to make you the goat.
@@mrbcoolkid8623So 2pac is a goat ?????
@@ultramag0343 yup!
@@ultramag0343Pac had 6 albums (One of them being a double album) between 1991-1996. 3 of them are undisputed classics. He’s most certainly in that conversation.
Quality over Quantity. Remember that young grasshoppers. BIG is a goat! Dont disrespect the god!
Vlad buys his own flowers. Nobody strokes themselves harder than Vlad
Facts! He wont let Math speak. 🙏🏾
Lmfaoo 😂😂😂
Vlad you didn’t have to insult MC Shan
Who care? Vlad insulted many men and you didnt care
😂
Exactly
Sorry. We let him in our house. We gave him power. He is not racist cause he sleeps with black women right. He is white and Jewish. They have to own the house. We created him. Too late.. he is getting worst. I like his platform as a whole but. He is a narcissist. No one will stop him or check him.
If he doesn't have no teeth is that a insult
Mtv is not what it was without the talent. They didn’t want to showcase black music until they seen how much it was thriving without them, then thought started showing it to overthrow the smaller platforms. Business 101 right
Groups like 36mafia and memphis rap from the 90s, was selling units ,without MTV or BET, the music was so popular, a lot of them dudes were making music that was popular and selling too " unique sound 👌, but rap was popular all over the US,
Vlad: only in NY 😂😂😂. Checking the F outta math 😂
Math thought he was gonna get away with that 😂😂 (“Vlad: in NY”) and never acknowledge that lack of information
But he wrong! It was In Detroit 2 …
@@franklynmcgradycalderon977Bro shit had me cracking up kept checking him with the in NY 😂😂
@@chriswil5919in NY
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I can only name one black samurai that was renowned... idk what math is talking about saying all of the best ones were black. When is Yasuke ever put in the same regard as someone like Miyamoto Musashi or any of the other legends
Thank you! Musashi legend as a samurai is without equal.
Yeah but people like him think because there was one black samurai that that samurai was the best because he's black...
The level of confident ignorance in the black community is legendary
@@brendancampbell4434 maybe he was talking about Afro Samurai lol
You guys need more research the entire Shang dynasty had blacks ruling it as warriors....psalms 83rd chptr. Show the conspiracy of the whole earth covering up black hebrew dominance..
Rap wouldn’t have died out, rap has always been a product of the streets Whatever blows up in the streets makes it mainstream but whatever is mainstream don’t always translate to the streets
MTV definitely helped but it wouldn’t have been the ending of rap
From the late 80s, in memphis tn - the underground rap scene was something else, memphis was a hit spot for rap music " lots of rappers selling their music from out of their trunks ,or to local stores and nation wide,and the music was hot 🔥 and different !!! as well, Crunk music, but it wasn't called Crunk, it was just rap ,but the music was different from west and east coast, but anyway, people were faithfully buying the product, the rappers, the stores ,and they was doing that in memphis without MTV, MTV was mostly just NY rap 🤷
Doctor umar been building a school for a decade & aint moved one rock😅
My neighbors and I did not have cable all the time to see hip-hop videos daily. Some months we did and some months we did not. You always have one friend or a group of friends to record the videos for you aka VHS tapes. Anyone here from Philly, South Jersey, and Delaware all remembers watching Urban Expressions on Saturdays. That was our Video Music Box. We had to wait until Saturday nights to fake the funk about music videos. It was extremely awkward when my friend in high school asked me if I watched TRL yesterday? I had no idea what it was because I did not have cable. This was TRL at it's height of the boy band phenomenon. Thank you to Urban Expressions that show helped and save many of the Philly youths.
Bro we had video box here in Illinois!!!
The Box wasn’t just New York Vlad is very incorrect. We watched it everyday in Detroit and other places.
We watched it in Cleveland too
And Miami
Video music box and Yo mtv raps definitely lit the flame but rap city carried the torch,i used to rush home from school to watch rap city so i wont miss anything...i miss those days.
With a big azz bowl of cereals 😂
Growing up, we thought Elvis was the best when it comes to rock n roll. This is the same mistake Umar is tryanna point out when we say eminem is the best to our new generation... get it???
Any rapper in the top 20 could have a case for being the best,and he's one of them like it or not sadly,I don't mind I'm Tech 9 lloyld banks and do like Em so I'm cool with that,talent skill dont see colour
Who is "we"? No one in my family thought that😂 it was always chuck barry
@davidgaskins2589 chuck Berry not barry 🤣 but I got the joke ha
@@davidgaskins2589 Jackie Wilson
@@davidgaskins2589I thought that as well Elvis was always in my face on TV. Every Sunday
Hip Hop wouldn't have Died out without MTV, but it would have not reached the whole country and world wide as soon as it did. MTV was World Wide. Video Music Box was only around the NYC area. Back in the late 80's House Music was bigger than Hop Hop and look where House music is at now compared to Hip Hop. So you just never know what it would have been without MTV
Honestly Vlad should listen to the guest more when it comes to black topics.
Bro Vlad don’t have to be Black to give insight on “Black” topics yall annoying with that he has just as much knowledge as anybody else
Some of your favorite hip hop songs had "white" engineers laying the tracks. Hip hop is about culture, not the color of skin
Idk math just lost credibility here. He said all the best samurai were black wtf. I can only name 1 famous black samurai Yasuke and he is never put in the same regard as people like Miyamoto Musashi, Kojiro or any other ultimate legend
Especially when they're black!!! Lol
@@SWHunte401 I never said he had to be black or he couldn't have his own opinion LOL. To me it just sounded like he was downplaying Video Music Box's influence during that era a bit
Math's jacket is ugly as hell. It looks like it is made from steel wool. 😂😂😂 People wear sunglasses indoors to hide thier eyes when they lie in interviews.
Ain't no way you can compare gogo ro hip hop! Only DC had gogo, hip hop was spreading in every state in America before MTV and video music box!!!!! FACTS
I’ll never understand that Umar guy. He’s got so many loose screws.
Have u actually researched anything he's done or said to make u say he's insane?
U probably won't until you can understand what Neely Fuller professes...ijs
@@tjinks7530 Right! And Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing.
I’m in Detroit and the Video Music Box was here too.
The Box was the station that nationally put hip-hop on the map
We had video music box in Detroit back in the day too
Word?!
@@Octane44 yes i watched it more than mtv and BET wit donny simpson
Out in the country in a lot of the places in the south we didn't even have cable, but the music still made it to us. Relatives would bring cassette tapes down south and local access radio hours and the strength of the music and its message would have not let hip hop die. MTV just let it grow faster. Now everybody has hip hop at the tip of their fingers. Garbage content is hip hops biggest threat.
Vlad is talking about how it made it to white America. Which is what Russel was trying to do with run dmc and Aerosmith and the beastie boys.
@@absolute7250 yeah, I'm just saying I don't think hip hop would have died, or would have been relegated to a region like go go. It was already spreading like wildfire before it made it to MTV. It would probably be in a more pure form had it not made it to MTV, but that's a different rant, for a different video, lol.
@@FMJIMAGES can’t compare hip hop to gogo. Hip hop is a culture not just a genre. And gogo is just party music. Hip hop you can talk about your experience.
@@FMJIMAGES I’m agreeing with you
Yo! MTV raps Saturday mornings for my VCR!!
At that time Hip Hop had already been in the West coast both North & South AND the South & Florida. it may have taken longer but it was NOT going to be stopped.
Video music Box was in Detroit too
Yo what's up dawgs. Greetings from the Philippines
Also the Movie Whos The Man was a staple of the culture. Ed Lover and Dr. Dre did their thing in that movie. I remember Treach was in it too
Video Music Box was definitely not just in New York. We were watching it in Cleveland.
Video music box was in DC in the 90s…idk where else outside of NY it was but it definitely wasn’t only in NY.
“All the best football players are black” is a crazy statement lol.
the best samurais were black is an even crazier statement
In NEW YORK is what he’s missing🤦🏾♀️
MJ did NOT need MTV.
Yeah true. Michael basically made MTV. MTV made MJ even bigger than he already was. They both helped each other.
We had video music box on TV on Pennsylvania back then
I’ve been saying for years that Vlad is the RUclips version of Oprah. I’m surprised he hasn’t taken that and ran with it.
Video music box was not only in New York. We had it in LA.
Hip hop was in every hood in America before mtv.
Rock was also a big part of MTV in the 90s. MTV Unplugged had the biggest rock artists of the 90’s doing live performances.
Rock was the biggest part of MTV lol
Yo MTV raps was world wide. I’m from Scotland and that helped a lot growing up, giving us that access. Then the box came along.
Yo! MTV Raps was impactful and universal.
I rem., we had to wait late into the night to watch it. I was in Africa and the time difference was huge, about 6 - 8 hours.
We had the BOX in Arizona
I wanna go on the math Hoffa show
Grew up in Hawaii, and was locked in on hip-hop through MTV 🤷🏽♂️
How do we go from a battle rapper to someone that talk about others and interviewing, means his word is truth????
Vlad gives me a headache with how ignorant he is. Michael Jackson was an International Superstar before MTV was even conceived. He was a little kid doing shows in London, Italy, Germany, Japan, had done about a dozen albums with Jackson 5/Jacksons, more than half a dozen solo albums.. like gtfoh. Secondly, people consumed music through a bunch of different mediums like radio, dub and mixtapes, word of mouth, live shows, etc. Video shows were relatively new at that time as a complementary thing to the music but not the other way around where music somehow dies without video. He's so preposterous man it's unreal lol.
Big was the subliminal king ..alot of people including myself didn't catch what he was saying til decades later and that's crazy to me
Then you are the slow king
@@user-kq4mo4zf7x I bet you still don't catch half of it foh
@@CDB51416 I didn't get this till 2012. And I must be slow.. " Fuck the state pen we fuck girls from Penn State" So simple idk why I didn't get right from the gate.
@@CDB51416 what didn't you catch when he said it? You slow or something or you must be a white boy
We had Music Box in Arizona
Biggie may have only had a couple of albums but literally now, in 2024, I’m writing this in January but March is almost here so I’m just gonna say, 27 years later we are still debating if he’s one of the greatest. Idk how that doesn’t speak volumes. Biggie & Pac were so undeniable their names are still CONSTANTLY in debates, decades after their existence. THE ARGUMENT HAS LASTED LONGER THAN THEIR ACTUAL LIVES. I’m sorry, that was literally maybe 30 seconds of this video but I just had to get that out.
Only cuz of his relationship to Tupac. If biggie died the same time unrelated to Tupac, he be just another great rapper
Why special Ed strings so damn long on that hoodie 😂😂😂
I watched video music box in Denver as a kid
Vlad I live in Maryland and as a teenager in the 90's I watched all hip hop videos on The Box. That was on cable TV.
The channel is nothing without the product!!!! Math is 💯 percent right MTV's exposure was powerful but the content that music displays will be powerful no matter what market distributes it!!!!
Wrong, when MTV started playing hip hop, hip hop was a very small genre, mainly NYC area ect. Without MTV it wouldn't have gone world wide because people in other states wouldn't have heard of it right at that moment maybe years later and the momentum would have been different.
@@EdwininfanteLeocadio I believe another platform wouldve picked up on it regardless just due to the purpose amd marketability of the genre!!! To each is own I just feel like money follows mastery and any big musical talent/genre will find its marketplace
@@PreciseProgression97 have you heard of Freestyle Music? Well let me tell you that in the late 80's it was at the same level of Hip Hop in the Radio Stations ect around the East Coast, and that Genre of Music Died out, just like House Music did and it was at one point bigger than Hip Hop. There was Clubs here in NYC exclusively for house music, like high end clubs that the rich people go to and hip hop was getting played only in small places in the hood at that time.
I’m with Math on this
I don’t even know what music box is. Definitely local
So what’s your point
To me, video music box was everything as a kid.
I watched MTV Yo! Raps here in Scotland, UK when I was younger. That's how far their reach went. I've never heard of the stations or channels that Hoffa is mentioning.
Omg sooo glad Math said video music box about time they show luv… Ralph McDaniels is a staple
Video music box was in Miami too
These interviews getting harder to watch vlad not even letting the guest talk.
Video Music Box wasn't only seen in New York even though it was based there.
Dude, I used to watch YoMtvRaps on cable TV back when I was living in Nigeria. I've never heard of Video music box 🤷🏾♂️
Math got that Walter Mercado trench coat on.... 😂😂😂
That’s only NY MATH! 😆 MTV was international .
We had music box in Cincinnati too. So it definitely wasn’t just NYC.
Math lost his shit at the thought of Vlad being poor 😂
Math Hoffa is so off in his take it’s hilarious. Bro ignorant as hell
We had video music box in Detroit
We had video music box in Los Angeles.
Vlad MTV wouldn’t be watching it is without hiphop or blacks in general
We had The Box in Florida
I don’t disagree with special Ed.
Big first album really didn’t take off that well until P Diddy super promoted Big and put him on like 20 features.
Big first week record sales on first album was super mid
You saying " Super mid" disqualifies you from the conversation bro
Math dressed like a character from the movie warriors
Both are right ✅️, but I'm have to agree more with Math on this one
Both needed each other without one the other wouldn’t have been more diverse and the other wouldn’t have move as quickly both were needed period
Salute to my brother Math 🙏🏾 💯
Math doesn't get the point that Vlad is making. Ralph McDaniels and Video Music Box was shown only in the tri-state area of NY, NJ, and CT. Those 3 markets only. It may have given Oprah a run for it's money in those three markets, yet the U.S. has 50 markets by state, and can be broken down even further by regions within those States. Video Music Box can't compete with Oprah on a National level. Oprah was shown in all 50 States. The same with Yo MTV raps which was broadcaated in all 50 States, and Syndicated internationally. While it was a big part of Math's life, most people outside of NY, NJ, CT, never heard of Video Music Box! Unless a relative made a video recording of the program and sent it to family and friends.
Ironic his name is math and doesn’t understand math
Video Music Box was local in the NYC metro area yes correct. But the point he is making was at that time in hip-hop MTV was an outsider to the black culture which was Hip-hop. Video Music Box premiered in 1983. Hip Hop started where South Bronx by who? Blacks and Puerto Ricans. When did hip hop start 1970s? Yo MTV Raps didn't air until 1988! MTV never wanted to showcase black artists. MTV knew Video Music Box regardless if only being local to the NYC metro was still a major problem to them and Video Music Box stayed on their necks until MTV Raps died! To be in second place in ratings next to Oprah is a major deal regional local or national it still counts. Oprah back then was a juggernaut in the early 1980s. It doesn't matter if YO MTV Raps was national It was never for black people. BET City came out and by that time YO MTV Rap was on life support. Rap City had a 19-year run. MTV Raps 1988-1995 Video Music Box still on the air. Video Music Box supported local real hip-hop from NYC and Philly. Until other major markets popped it was just Philly. Don't say it was LA or Georgia it was not! Philly which was the second largest marketing at the time for hip-hop. By then Urban Expression videos came out, with major support from the number one hip-hop station in Philly Power99fm, and Powerhouse. There was no Summer Jam back then. All the major hip-hop events was either took place in NYC or Philly back in the day. Real hip-hop came from NYC not MTV's corporate office.
If you’re not from outside of the US you don’t understand the power Yo MTV Raps had on the globe. VMB was the catalyst definitely.
I think these guys were arguing for different points.
Basically Video Music Box was the blueprint to Yo TV raps and because Video Music Box was doing large numbers in NYC. MTV saw the impact of Video Music Box and decided to create Yo TV raps on their platform. Coming from NYC I always tuned into Video Music Box everyday afterschool and Saturday's at noon. I understand where Math Hoffa is coming from.
How you not going to show a clip of Ralph McDaniels? 4:20
Can you imagine Vlad break dancing lol
“In New York”
“in the bay”
Yasuke was the only black samurai that I was aware of. If there were others I'd like to know
Before MTV Hip Hop was spreading outside of NY by College kids on the east coast. To this day, GO GO doesn't get big radio play in D.C.
The box was in LA too … unless it’s not the same thing ?!?
Salute vlad for recognizing gogo music
Fab 5 Freddy hosted Yo! MTV Raps during the weekends and Dr.Dre/ Ed Lover had the weekday show during its first couple of years.
You have to understand in Eastern Europe in the '90 we had MTV, and we watch MTV RAPS, we didn't knew who Oprah was...
Music box was In Detroit too ….
We had the box in Chicago back then…I’m pretty sure it was international
Yea we had It in Detroit too .. Vlad tripn …
Not the same as video music box
@@ceeIoc the box , where you called in and paid to see videos isn’t a shortend version or the video music box?
@@ceeIocit’s is the same ..it was called the Video music box.. Where you from ?
Not the same. The box you made requests. Video music box was a general music video channel with interviews@@user-et1ch4zk6b
Hip hop was coming through regardlessly it may have been a slower start but it have got out there
Facts just like rock disco jazz blues etc💯🤷🏿♂️
We had the Box in the Midwest
We got the box down in Birmingham
Stop it BIG is one of the nicest his prime was cut short but it was still long enough to get the gist of how talented he was his music aged much better than Pacs
Both there music has aged gracefully 💯not Eminem’s 💯I went back and listened to the Marshall mathers LP and slim shady LP I can’t rock with that shit as a adult
Big had not social commentary
I gotta agree with Vlad. Ralph McDaniels had a successful show but it was New York. I grew up in Chicago i didn't hear of his show until after 2010 on a documentary or something. Not to take away from it but it was local. MTV was everywhere. Hip Hop could've been like House Music. Just local to certain regions. (I hate GoGo)
Are you young? Because I’m 41 and I use to see the Box all the time
Video music box was very big in the south
Why Vlad using Dr Umar Johnson name for click bait 🪤🪤🪤
How many layers of clothing Math needs….. lol . Vlad need Heat