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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Reaction to John Cage: 4'33'' / Petrenko · Berliner Philharmoniker
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This "no-piece" was composed in 1952 by vanguardist composer John Cage. Originally, it was performed by Cage himself in a piano, and the title 4'33" is the time people stay silent waiting for the music, before start leaving. The meaning of the piece is that it's impossible to have a 100% full silence, there is always something sounding, even if we don't want.
PD: "Tacet" is an indication that means one particular instrument don't play in one or more movements, but obviously it doesn't apply to every single instrument in the orchestra... except in this "no-piece".
Petrenko is the greatest conductor ever, this is just absolutelly astonishing
4:11 The bassoon came in a little late there.
Funniest reaction ever 😂
A lot depends on the pianist. It is better with an actor, rather than a pianist. Which is why this is an Occasion rather than music. Like Satie's Vexations.
Stravinsky famously said that he "looked forward to longer pieces by this composer".
It is funny to watch someone who hasn't experienced this piece before, so thank you. But also, yes, it is pretty much a troll (from 72 years ago). It is meant to make you think about the noises all around you as being music, but I don't think it really works, even in a live performance. But watching a RUclips video of it is really not going to have the intended effect anyway. So what we're left with is just a troll, but you reacted well to it!
" It is meant to make you think about the noises all around you as being music" - PRECISELY! A friend once sent me a pic of the place where it was premiered - essentially a large rustic cabin in a forest. There would have been a lot to listen to.
I've never heard a faster performance of this piece. And neither slower ones.
The piece should have titled " the emporer has no clothes"
i love how twoset was in his suggested
Well, there you have it. One of the biggest classical music memes and yet something that teaches us about music, about the meaning of silence. You may say nothing happens, but actually a lot is happening. That's something you only start noticing after you've gotten over the feeling of betrayal. I remember we had this piece in school once and we were actually asked to write down what happened. You might be surprised, but I wrote a whole page about 4'33.
Would love to hear that one live in concert..
I'd love to hear that one at home D:
They would have to pay me to see this in concert.
I have never experienced this piece in its entirety, but of course I knew about it. And this conductor made it a real experience. And zooming in on the score showing TACET. And Gidi's face. Don't ban him: this was a great experience.
I think of John Cage as the Marcel Duchamp of music. (Unsurprisingly, Cage and Duchamp were friends.) He wrote a large number of pieces whose main purpose to make the audience think about what music is. Some of his pieces call for musicians to interpret something abstract or even random according to provided guidelines. Another fairly well known Cage piece is his Imaginary Landscape No. 4 for 12 Radios, where the score instructs the performers to adjust the frequencies and volumes at specific times, so that different radio stations go in and out; the musical content is determined entirely by what other people outside the concert hall are broadcasting at that time.
Cage also wrote more conventional (though still avant-garde) music. Other than 4'33", the other thing he's really known for is his large number of pieces for prepared piano, i.e. a piano with objects placed on or inserted between the strings in specific places.
Noooo, don't fall for this, sigh........
Contrary to those below, I think this piece works extremely well live. Basically imagine you can insert 4’33 of silence (not intermission, not time where the audience can do whatever they want, but time spent listening to and observing the space) into the structure of any program. Brilliant and flexible tool for programs imo and no program with 4’33 would be the same without it-the only people in the audiences who would disagree are those bringing with them biases against rewarding this type of art. I wish this piece was included in more programs than any other individual piece of music.
i'm not much into avant-garde music or the "chance" music that Cage wrote so much of. But somehow, he almost always manages to make some beautiful noises.
That was powerful music
4 min 33s equals 273 secs - -273°C is the absolute zero - absence of any movements of molecules (well, despite quantum zero point energy). By the way:John Cage composed really enjoyable music - perhaps you try some pieces for the prepared piano to dive in.
Its about holding a mirror to the audience. Cage is throwing the onus back on you and your reactions to it are the musical content. There's a video on here of somebody performing Cage's "Solo" for Trombone which involves lots of changes of mutes slides etc. and a kid in the audience starts laughing hysterically to the point where the player breaks down in laughter. This all becomes a part of the work as well.
One of the greatest scams of all time , if you purchased a ticket to hear this piece, you bamboozled because he went on stage sat down at the piano after 4minutes and 33 secs of not doing anything, he gets up and walks away, the second part of the scam is he sold this piece as manuscript, mind you the entire book completely empty, so If you paid a$1 for that empty book, you paid for a title and empty book, you got took, so to speak
Should check out other of his works like water walk john cage 🤣
I’m traumatised
😂😂😂😂
Usually the audience "makes" the music by laughing, shuffling, muttering, coughing, and otherwise having surprised, confused, irritated, or other reactions. I am not sure if we hear much on this video. A Berlin Philharmonic audience probably knows what to expect (not that this piece is performed frequently, but everyone educated in classical music has heard about it), and thus sabotages the music-making by their polite acceptance and resulting silence; the recording setup probably wasn't intended to pick them up very well anyway. I believe it's most commonly "performed" on piano. Also, it's the only piece I know that everyone plays at the same tempo!
Next: Listen to the ever-same arpeggios of P. Glass. Nah seriously, you want more Shostakovich.
Welcome to the dark side of music, we have plenty of cookies here 🍪
You think just hearing John Cage's music is a trip, search for images of his scores. Maybe compare how they look against, say, a Mozart symphony score. They'll twist your mind for sure! But anyway, you heard this piece in the apparent spirit for which it was intended (sounds of audience fidgeting, coughs, etc. included)
Best with Trifonov and his watch. :P Kind of theatralic.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Who trolled you like this? Although, I'm not gonna lie, I was kind of expecting it to happen at some point since this is one of the most infamous "pieces" in the classical world.
Made you expand your idea of music as controlled sound or lack thereof maybe.
Too noisy for me
I never liked this "piece" but I do think it's interesting how each "performance" is different because of different background sounds. Doesn't make it good though.
Why are "you" writing like "this"
@@WEEBLLOM Because this ain't a piece and much less a performance.
@@EminAnimE1 how do you know? :D
@@WEEBLLOM If you consider silence and not doing anything a piece and a performance then by all means.
@@EminAnimE1 there is no silence in this piece. And yes, this piece is being performed at all times. You should read about this piece to better understand Cage's intentions. Adam Neely has a great video that may change your views on this work
Why rush tempo so much?
Postmodernism. People can say silence is important, but that doesn't make this good. And modern/contemporary/... art is always more about talking about the piece than the piece itself...
I don't think the idea of this piece is to be "good"
@@DaGuys470 it's a scam , it what it is
How tf is 4’33 post modern? I disagree that it’s more about talking about the piece than the piece itself. The talking part is received by the listener completely during the performance, and is only discussed with those who don’t receive the same thing after the fact. I’ve never felt like a live performance of this piece was a waste and wish people added it more often to supplement programs.
@@DaGuys470 of course not. But it is meant to be somewhere 'serious'. Modern art is about going away from good and from quality, but still seem 'serious' (see all the money in that circuit).
Hello sir, next time, before criticizing a work for the historical period in which it was written, try to inform yourself a little. There is no silence in this piece :)
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hope whoever recommended this got banned
Let me fix that
The biggest con in classical music. Like a red dot on a panel in a museum
An insult to those who actually think about music/art.
That this tripe is studied in college is indicative of the corruption in academia too.
We “listened” to this piece in music theory and I went on my phone the whole time
I have no idea why you think it’s appropriate to talk over the piece for the whole performance especially when music is so precious and moving. I’m very disappointed in you.
How is this music precious, there’s no sound listen to better composers
@@philchngyes there’s no music, but there IS irony.