The larger peep has been on my set ups for years. It’s not like you’re at a 3-d with a target scope looking for points. You’re needing to see the animal better so you can see where the pin is on the animal. Good video Bill, especially for the new bow hunters.
I upgraded bows this year and went from a 3/16” to 1/4” peep and it was the best thing I ever did for accuracy and site picture. For me it’s been a vast improvement on almost every aspect of shooting from target acquisition to accuracy. Really enjoying your videos and super happy for you to be back making regular content. I’ve learned and applied so many things from your videos and last season had an absolutely amazing season in large part due to the content you’ve made over the last several years.
Christopher, thanks. Another thing I do is squint my non-aiming eye. I don't close it because that shuts out too much visibility and I don't keep it open because then I get two pins (my non-aiming eye is nearly as dominant as my aiming eye). That has helped me a ton over the years too.
@@bill-winke for me I have to completely close my non aiming eye. I’m slightly near sighted in my non dominant eye so when I attempt to focus with both eyes open my vision will blur and I lose a great deal of peripheral vision. Over the past few years I’ve learned to adjust and adapt to it.
@@russelllangworthy8855 it may eventually get to that point but I’ve paired my peep with a sight that has a small circular frame that lines up really well. I’ve built a great deal of confidence in my current set up so for time being I’m going to stick with what I’ve got.
@@christopherfranklin1842 Good plan. No need to change something just for the sake of changing it. That’s why I still use aluminum arrows and a bow from 1994.
Earl and Ann Hoyt bought 400 acres in east-central Missouri right next to my family farm back in the 80s. They were the nicest people. Earl even gave me a few lessons on how to shoot with fingers. I’ll never forget it! I was disappointed when they sold the business to Easton, but I feel Earl’s innovative DNA is still felt in every Hoyt bow. He is as much a legend as Fred Bear in my book!
Agreed. That is very cool. I wish I had met them. I feel privileged to have met some really great forefathers of our sport, but have not been fortunate enough to meet either the Hoyts or Fred Bear, for that matter. Good luck.
I basically have the exact setup as Winke and have been setting my bows up that way for years! The drop away rest and the larger peep I think is the way to go! I personally only use 2 site pins, one that's set for 25yrds and 1 at 40yrds. The less pins I have to think about during the moment of truth for me makes it simple and easy!
I think your pin arrangement is very wise. I have done the trajectory studies and am convinced that if I was going to set up one pin it would be 25 yards. With typical arrow speeds 290+ fps) the hit will be high but in the whitetail sized kill zone from 15 to 20, dead on at 25 and low but in the kill at 30. Gives a lot of forgiveness out to 30 if you don't have the distance perfect.
Great stuff. I have to be honest I thought Bill had moved on from hunting to something else. I watched his Midwest Whitetail vids religiously and enjoyed them immensely. I have been helped & encouraged by Bill and his group so, so much. I just searched "whitetail bow hunting" recently and saw a new vid by Bill and I was super excited. I am glad he is still hunting and even more so that he is providing experience & perspective for the hunting community. Well done.
I am glad you found me. I need to start promoting the channel I guess so more people know I am back doing this stuff again. I appreciate the comment and the support. Have a great day and a great season.
@@bill-winke I am a bit older and not a techy type person. The younger followers likely knew what was going on. Regardless, I am earnestly glad you are still at it hunting & bringing that level of experience to the hunting community. Even more, the attitude, approach and atmosphere of your content and presentation is top tier. Thanks again.
Looking forward to more of the series! I've been a Winke fan for decades(?), however long he's been writing articles. Bill and the late Charles Alsheimer were always my faves.
I also started shooting Hoyt’s exclusively in 1997. It was a Hoyt Enticer with the carbonite limbs and master cams. Like Bill’s Ultratec, this bow was by far my most successful bow when it came to punching tags from deer, Turkey and even my first bear. I still have that bow today, although I shoot an Rx4 now, just for the sentimental value is has. Good luck this fall Bill, I can’t wait to follow along weekly.
Shot day six for about 4-5 years now ! Probably the toughest micro on the planet! Also shooting the rx7 in wilderness! Looking forward to this series.👍
Bill, happy to see you back sharing your passion. Not sure if this is a concern for you or not but something I am aware of, with older age, is what colors I can see better. For me I can’t see red as good as green, specifically in low light. Therefore I have my sight setup for my first two pins green and 4/5 pins green with red in center. This helps break up which pin you may be using during shooter panic but also allows for my more common shots 20-30y to be high vis when needed.
Thanks Chris. Much appreciated. That is good input. My own acuity (or whatever it is called) has changed a bunch over the years too. When I was a kid I thought I would be the one that didn't age. Well, here I am - aged. I also see the green much better. I need to start considering going to two pins. I still shoot five pins. Sometimes that is confusing and definitely overkill for whitetails in the places I hunt.
Ive bow hunted for 20 years, always had a site with a few different pins for different distances. Last year, late in season, i picked up a used bow from a friend for cheap, a Mathews DXT. It had a single pin site, site tape to mark for different distances etc. I practiced in my yard, felt good about huntin with it. However.... My last practice session was @ 30 yards, a few days later was 2022 season opener, got off work, grabbed my bow, hit the woods, at 0710 still on the ground (off work at 6am, running late, wasnt going to be able to make it to the stand without blowing out deer) a deer approached, i drew back, small grunt to stop the deer, the release touched off.... missed it clean at 12 yards. Yes. Pin was set to 30 yards, and with the adrenaline flowing, already tasting those backstraps, not being familiar enough with a new piece of equipment. I was the idiot. Dont be like me. Dont be the idiot. Listen to Mr. Winke.
Hey, I have been the idiot often enough to run circles around you! The trophy room of the animals that got away that I should have killed would be way more impressive than the one I have.
I really appreciate that Underdog. Thanks for the input. I really enjoy helping people and as the years have gone by I have enjoyed it more. I will keep trying to perfect the craft as long as you keep watching!
Thanks Amos. I will do my best. I am not on the cutting edge of current technology like I might have been 25 years ago, but I do have 45 years of bowhunting experience to draw from so I can usually offer some perspective on trends, etc. that have been tried in the past.
Input appreciated. I will get that worked into the schedule. I have used a nose button before and I have also tied white floss around the bow string to serve as my "rear sight" instead of a peep, but in the end I always came back to the peep. I think three points of reference are good though: peep, nose on string, anchor point.
I like them so far, but won't know for sure until I have killed a few deer with them. I expect to do that soon as I will definitely take a few does this year. Thanks for the support.
Like your videos Bill. Informative and clear. Quiet is king ! So true. Person and equipment. After years of hunting with a bow, I now think I've been holding too close to the shoulder, grew up gun hunting. Lots of lung area on a deer. ie off the should a few inches works best for me.
Yes, that is good advice. I have seen studies that the middle of the lungs is the best place to hold, but I always aim high heart when I can keep my composure together because so many deer drop at the sound of the shot. Thanks for the input.
Great info, Bill. I've hunted deer for 30+ years, but there are always new things to learn and consider. Things sure have changed since I started with a hand-me-down PSE Pacer bow in the early 90's!!! I'm assuming there will be a discussion about broadheads at some point. Looking forward to all the parts of this series!!!
Tim, thanks. I agree, but it is interesting to see how things seem to circle back to the basics after a few years of "trying something new". I will touch on broadheads and my feelings are probably a bit controversial. I still love the small cutting diameter mechanical heads for one simple reason: under the widest range of conditions (wind, bad release, buck fever, etc.) they are the most accurate for me. My first priority is accuracy. I think before this next evolution of my media business plays itself out, I will be making my own broadheads. Good luck.
@@bill-winke I couldn't agree more. I'll choose the ability to hit exactly where I aim over any other factor--including penetration. I pick my shots very carefully, and have never had issues. My all-time favorite for accuracy, lethality, affordability, and durability is the Wasp Jak-Hammer. I've tried the NAP Killzone, which penetrates well and leaves a savage hole, but I've struggled to get field-point accuracy from them. Looking forward to hearing your experiences and opinions. Can't wait to pick up a set of those "Winke Warheads"!!! 😂🤣
I have shot hoyt for alot of years as well my first one was a Spectra Light Hunter back in 1993.... the ultra tec was my fav as well but the one I love most was the 2010 Carbon Matrix first year of the carbon bow... wish I had one now. I have looked at the new stuff and frankly i would be very happy and am happy with there older bows... currently shooting a 2013 Charger an on the look out for a 2010 Carbon Matrix with the #2 cam on it and 60lb max..
Those old bows definitely have a place in our hearts. I still have the UltraTec. I will never shoot it again, but I will also never give it up. Have a great day and good luck.
Thanks Bill. I love my Day Six broadheads the are the real deal and help immensely with confidence that they will perform, best broadhead that I have used in 42 years of bowhunting, I might have try the arrows now!! Interesting that you shoot with gloves on, I assume to simulate "real" hunting conditions? Appreciate the insights.
Thanks for the input Scott. The owner of Day Six is trying to get me to shoot them this year and I am trying to get him to make me the ultimate mechanical. We shall see who wins out! I wear the gloves for all my off season shooting because I learned that the bow feels (and moves) a lot different with or without gloves and since I will be hunting with gloves I should be practicing with them too.
Awesome series bill! I’ve got a fool proof setup too. Something I can do all myself. Don’t have a bow shop close. Definitely been fun to mess around building arrows and trying new things! I’m Just enjoying the passion we all share! I Would like to see a tree stand setup / what are some tips and tricks that you put together over the years! The winking thought process on hanging the perfect set! Hope the season is awesome I’ll be watching. “Dean”
Thanks Dean. I appreciate it and I share your passion for doing it myself. For better or worse, I have always set up my own bows and built my own arrows. No one has ever done either for me. I want to be able to control all the variables. I do think I have something to say when it comes to stand setups. I love to place the tree between me and where I expect to see the deer and then stand most of the time, using the tree for cover. It works great. Have a great day.
Thanks Brian. It may start out slow, but once I get my legs under me, I think that will be a really fun series. I am looking forward to it also, because I am going to work to get segments from top archers and bowhunters.
@@bill-winke I agree with your thought process with the 1/4 peep , you are actually the first person in a video to suggest that usually they say aim small miss small and use small diameter peeps and sight housing but I like to be able to find my target quickly and use a sight with a 2" sight housing with a dovetail and adjust it as to let only a small ring of light around the housing and I feel that it's really important to practice at different times of the day because of the different levels of light and really dial in the position of the dovetail and on my target instead of shooting at a dot I like to shoot at a vertical line for my left and right and a horizontal line for my yardage that way it's way more precise and easier because I'm only focusing on one thing at a time and I dont get as tired because I don't have to hold back as long ! Lol maybe a long response but hey !!
Thanks Bill! I’ve been shooting the Hoyt Torrex XT the last couple seasons and absolutely loved it. I’ve got 4 young children and lots of family expenses, so I went with the more economical Hoyt this time around. You might set one up and give your thoughts to us. As an expert on Hoyts I think it would make for an awesome video. Can’t wait to see how your season progresses! Thanks!
It’s a little late for this year obviously but in the off-season play around with no peep. Put a nose button on for consistent anchor. The sight picture is amazing
I used to do that back in the late 80s and early 90s. I also tied a bit of white floss around the string to make a "rear sight" that I could align my pin next to. For some reason I went back to the peep. I will have to try that again to see if I can figure out why I gave that up. Had to have been accuracy.
Man I'm telling you I got your twin as a good friend he and you look just alike it would blow your mind anyway anyway bill you're an amazing person You have always been the inspiration to me and I'm not talking about just because you was A TV superstar or Midwest white tell just how humble open you areI mean look at this channel already it shows how relatable it's like one of the good old boys you know you guys set around shoot the crab shoot the bow just hanging out
Holy grab not only do I know you're twin but also you're shoot the sanec arrows right I thought nobody knew about these guys like their arrow you can shoot it into a concert block and it would laugh at you I bet it's 3 sixteenths of an inch thick maybe not quite that much but it is a super thick wall Which a lot of people are starting to realize there is no such thing as too stiff also and soon as the arrow recovers it's easy to eat Eating up all the energy that it can there's their shafts are amazing man I am so glad to see somebody else representing day 6 The shaft itself is kind of heavy for his grains per inch but man it is a fabulous arrow
I have only heard good things about these Day Six arrows. They are a bit heavy but for whitetails at the distances we shoot them, that is OK. Good luck.
I had to give up my compound, due to back injuries and diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my hands and I used a hand release since I was 14. I'm 52 now. I have went to a crossbow now. Have you ever thought about doing a crossbow video?
Drew, that would be a good addition to "The Setup". I have shot them but am by no means a savvy crossbow guy. I will see if I can find someone to fill that role. Have a great day.
Im 50 with old man eyes..pins turned into a mass of starbursts and pins..had to go to a "specialty archery" brand peep verifier...i think is the name...can just google peep verifier if unaware of the product...think they are the only ones making them...like reading glass lens in the peep...is great to be able to see pins clear again..ive used it 2 seasons now...no problems with it...they sell anti fog to use on it...but i had zero probs with it fogging on stand...only time i saw fog was when walked into a warm house from freezing cold after hunting or shooting outside...i do shoot indoor to so if i went straight from target outside to target inside in winter...i had to wait a minute for fog to clear or use a q tip to clear it...anti fog may work..it just wasnt an issue..if ya never seen 1 and have pinburst...it WILL clear them up...with correct power lense the target remains clear as well..if its to weak the pins still blurry...if you go to strong the pins clear and target blurry like reading glasses at a distance...go just strong enough to get clear pins and target will stay clear..hope this helps
@@markcharlton9020 negatory but there is a kit you can buy thats cheap to see wich lense you need...and also theres a spot on website i think that says if you use this power reading glasses use this power lense...but i just went middle of road...i use 1.5 readers and have the purple dotted lense..they are color coded as well...whole system , peep housing and lense was not exactly cheap...but worth it...think lenses are 40$..wanta say bout 100$ for hoysing and lense...may try a stronger lense as well...gonna go as strong as i can without blurring the target
@@bill-winke i use a 5 pin...vertical pins...with a pin verifier peep...nice and crisp pins...50 years old...2 years ago i could read fine...seem like over course of 6 months i went from seeing fine to needing readers...gettin old is def not for sissies !
Look forward to this series Bill! Have my second bow ever and first carbon one which should keep the bow from freezing to my glove! Can I ask what you do with your older model bows, do they ever get used again or do they become a dust collection system?
I have given most of them away. When I was doing a lot of bow reports and buyer's guides for magazines I would get at least ten bows per year. I usually gave them to friends, photo models (guys who helped me shoot photos), a landowner who gave me permission to hunt, my UPS man, etc. It is tough in some cases because I have a pretty long draw, so my personal bows won't fit everyone, but when I was doing all those reports I used to request them in specs that other people would use. I just went in the shop and looked. Right now I have seven bows. One is the brand new RX7 Ultra that I will hunt with this fall and one is my back up (RX4 Ultra). The rest are leftovers from bygone days!
I actually worked there in 1991. While there I met Greg Tinsley who went on to edit Petersen's Bowhunting magazine. Started writing for Greg and that is how I got into the hunting industry.
I actually went back to an older single cam bow with a whisker biscuit rest. I’m shooting as good as I ever have and my bow is super easy to work on and tune. I have a portable bow press and I can do everything a bow shop can for the most part. The hunting I am doing in Ohio most shots are around 20 yards anyway.
Yes, keep it simple. I went for 20 years using a portable press. I was called the Bowmaster if I am not mistaken. I took with me whenever I traveled so I could always fix anything that went wrong.
Is that the ultra? I'll be bow shopping here soon. I'm finding my bow choices are limited since the average bow now maxes at 30". Being 6'5", I need 31.5" and the options are definitely much less. On the plus side, KE is never an issue.
Josh, yes it is the RX7 Ultra. I shoot it at 32 inches of draw. Like you, I am also 6'5" and it fits great. That was one of the reasons I started shooting Hoyt back in the mid-90s. They were one of the few companies that made a 32 inch draw bow. Of course, I fell in love with the bows in the process. Good luck.
@@bill-winke I still remember that first hoyt defiant I had back around 97ish. Then a havoc. Then an ultratec that I kept for 10 years or so until I got the alphamax. I've had several other brands, but I can definitely say I've never had an issue with any hoyt. Those early - mid 2000s tec riser grips were the best I've ever used too. I still have the havoc and ultratec. Going to have to dig them out and shoot then again for old times
Hey Bill, what is that device on your bow just below the stabalizer threads on your bows riser? It’s about a 2” cylinder? Sweet bow and I like the color. I still shoot a 2015 Carbon Spyder Turbo. I can’t get away from it. Like you said as well with your setup, I like the looks of my bow as well as the performance it still holds over 7 years later.
That is a wind checker. I got that many years ago - maybe 25 years ago. If I ever lost my bow I would be more stressed about losing that wind checker than the bow itself! The Carbon Spyder was a really nice bow. I think it was one of the best Hoyt ever made. Good input.
That is a good setup. Good for you. I am still leery about moveable single pin sights for whitetails. I am always afraid the deer will move after I hit full draw and I will have the pin in wrong place. But, I guess I should just try one and find out.
@@bill-winke I went to the single pin because it was easier to concentrate on in the sight window it took me a few times to find the setup that worked for me but once I've found I won't change because it works
Always been a "big" peep during hunting guy...i used the same 5/16 meta for over 20 years on bout 8 dif bows...sadly i caught old man eye syndrome....each pin starburst into a dot with 4 dots satelited around it...a complete mess of pinpoints and starburst..ya may say just use the dot in the middle but depending on how light hit the sight determined wich dot outta the 5 was actually the dang pin ! No go on that.....so 2 years ago i had to give up my old meta and go with a pin verifier setup...same size , 5/16..i do use a sight housing that matches it so i saw zero drop off in accuracy when i went big....but it does have a housing to screw the verifier into...its freaking huge...looks like a donut in my string...prob cost me a few feet per sec but i can see again all way til dark...if i can see the deer with my eyes still , i can shoot it ... And the look really grew on me...i love it ! Same year i began using a nose button...never used a kisser but man i really love the nose button...decades ago i played with serving wrapped around string to form a little ball bout the size of a nock set for a nose button but found the same as a kisser to be very easy to change its position slightly without feeling it...the little points on the bowmar button let you feel exactly...and i mean exactly where ya touching string to your nose not just on the tip but exactly where on the tip...at same time it moves the string away from my face just enough i dont have to worry bout beard/mask...im a stickler about lateral string pressure from face/nose/beard so id shave closer....now i got a zz top beard going...all good ! Tech tip episode is kinda nostalgic...i started my bowhunting life decades ago with tech tips from you and mr ulmer....never gets old...live long and prosper brother
Thanks for the input Terry. It is amazing how much my vision has changed since I turned 40. Seems like every year I have to adjust to something new. Good luck.
I noticed that you were shooting with gloves on do you always shoot that way or wait closer to season i always shoot with mine on think it makes a difference or not and have a good day bill !!!
Richard, I shoot with them on during the entire off-season. Depending on how slick the grip is, I think the bow reacts different in a gloved hand versus an ungloved hand so I want to duplicate hunting conditions as much as possible.
Do you normally not have a stabilizer? I haven't had one on my 2014 hoyt spider 30 ever. I believe stabilizers are pointless on most hunting bows, and just add something to get hung up while drawing in the tree...
Some bows need a stabilizer for balance - so it doesn't fall back after the shot. The RX7 doesn't. It has the little doinker looking thing near the bottom limb and that does seem to help with the balance a bit.
I have tried that and I am just not good enough. I did shoot a nice P & Y class buck with a Dan Quillian recurve back in 1992 or 1993, but I haven't hunted with them since. Despite practices many many hours, I got OK, but never what you would call good.
@@bill-winke don't have to be a pro just proficient your skills with the compound would transition just fine I'm a hardcore bowhunter shoot a Mathews but the modern bows all but shoot themselves now it takes a lot of the skill out of the archery hunting this past year I decided to go back to the roots of the sport and stick and string it. It seems like the more modern the equipment gets the more people give up they become less skilled cuz everything is dumbed down.
It would impress me if you drove to work in a horse and buggy, lol. I mean, if you really want to do it the “hard” way, I suggest you learn flint knapping and throw a atlatl.
Agreed. The less I have to think critically during the moment of truth the better. But, sometimes we do have to figure stuff out on the fly so while we are sitting there we need to rehearse just about everything possible so we are ready for anything.
George, I tried them back in the 90s. I never really liked them. I guess I grew up gun hunting and the index trigger is just more natural to me. Some people love them and are used to that style. If you suffer from target panic with an index trigger release you might find some help with the thumb trigger models. Good luck.
I don't understand the question. I have been rigging bows like this for a long time. This setup will last as long as Hoyt lets me shoot it before requesting that I try something newer. Good luck.
@@bill-winke I have last year Ventum 30. I plan on using that bow until the limbs fall off. Lol. I will say I like the Fuse Products. Single pin sight is awesome.
I always tell people that buying a bow is like buying a car. A used or new in box flagship can cost the same as an entry or budget bow. You can get a new in box Elite Kure for like, $600
Shot Hoyt for majority of my life and loved them! Went to a Matthews because of draw length. Someone finally realized that big guys bow hunt and they were the only one with a 34” draw so I went them and it’s taking a lot of getting used to after shooting a short draw bow my whole life. Miss my Hoyt though!!!
Probably not, if you are referring to my sight settling. I get better the more I shoot, but I am not nearly as smooth and relaxed as I was when I was younger. I guess that is why they have senior divisions in the big archery tournaments. By mid-October, it will be more stable.
I guess they told me they are. In fact, the owner said that is one of the main selling points. I will have to ask him about that. I have been to the Easton plant and seen everything except the room where they make the aluminum and carbon arrows. They kept that door locked!
The new binary system Eliminated the spongy feel that always was a issue with there cam 1/2 designs as well as severe bottom cam lean that created vertical nock travel as well as vertical nock travel that required a limb driven rest .
No, I do think though that every three or four years the slight annual improvements in these bows add up enough that it is worth considering an upgrade. I am sure bow companies want us to buy every year, but that is overkill for sure. Good luck.
The larger peep has been on my set ups for years. It’s not like you’re at a 3-d with a target scope looking for points. You’re needing to see the animal better so you can see where the pin is on the animal. Good video Bill, especially for the new bow hunters.
Congrats on the new series Bill! Great information as always.
Thanks Eric. Much appreciated.
I upgraded bows this year and went from a 3/16” to 1/4” peep and it was the best thing I ever did for accuracy and site picture. For me it’s been a vast improvement on almost every aspect of shooting from target acquisition to accuracy. Really enjoying your videos and super happy for you to be back making regular content. I’ve learned and applied so many things from your videos and last season had an absolutely amazing season in large part due to the content you’ve made over the last several years.
Christopher, thanks. Another thing I do is squint my non-aiming eye. I don't close it because that shuts out too much visibility and I don't keep it open because then I get two pins (my non-aiming eye is nearly as dominant as my aiming eye). That has helped me a ton over the years too.
@@bill-winke for me I have to completely close my non aiming eye. I’m slightly near sighted in my non dominant eye so when I attempt to focus with both eyes open my vision will blur and I lose a great deal of peripheral vision. Over the past few years I’ve learned to adjust and adapt to it.
@@christopherfranklin1842 You could even drill out your 1/4” peep to allow more light in. I’ve been doing that for 40 years and it helps me.
@@russelllangworthy8855 it may eventually get to that point but I’ve paired my peep with a sight that has a small circular frame that lines up really well. I’ve built a great deal of confidence in my current set up so for time being I’m going to stick with what I’ve got.
@@christopherfranklin1842 Good plan. No need to change something just for the sake of changing it. That’s why I still use aluminum arrows and a bow from 1994.
Earl and Ann Hoyt bought 400 acres in east-central Missouri right next to my family farm back in the 80s. They were the nicest people. Earl even gave me a few lessons on how to shoot with fingers. I’ll never forget it!
I was disappointed when they sold the business to Easton, but I feel Earl’s innovative DNA is still felt in every Hoyt bow.
He is as much a legend as Fred Bear in my book!
Agreed. That is very cool. I wish I had met them. I feel privileged to have met some really great forefathers of our sport, but have not been fortunate enough to meet either the Hoyts or Fred Bear, for that matter. Good luck.
Hoyt needs to keep naming bows after Mazda. Can't wait for the Miata recurve.
Good point. I will pass that along!
I basically have the exact setup as Winke and have been setting my bows up that way for years! The drop away rest and the larger peep I think is the way to go! I personally only use 2 site pins, one that's set for 25yrds and 1 at 40yrds. The less pins I have to think about during the moment of truth for me makes it simple and easy!
I think your pin arrangement is very wise. I have done the trajectory studies and am convinced that if I was going to set up one pin it would be 25 yards. With typical arrow speeds 290+ fps) the hit will be high but in the whitetail sized kill zone from 15 to 20, dead on at 25 and low but in the kill at 30. Gives a lot of forgiveness out to 30 if you don't have the distance perfect.
Great stuff. I have to be honest I thought Bill had moved on from hunting to something else. I watched his Midwest Whitetail vids religiously and enjoyed them immensely. I have been helped & encouraged by Bill and his group so, so much. I just searched "whitetail bow hunting" recently and saw a new vid by Bill and I was super excited. I am glad he is still hunting and even more so that he is providing experience & perspective for the hunting community. Well done.
I am glad you found me. I need to start promoting the channel I guess so more people know I am back doing this stuff again. I appreciate the comment and the support. Have a great day and a great season.
@@bill-winke I am a bit older and not a techy type person. The younger followers likely knew what was going on. Regardless, I am earnestly glad you are still at it hunting & bringing that level of experience to the hunting community. Even more, the attitude, approach and atmosphere of your content and presentation is top tier. Thanks again.
Looking forward to more of the series! I've been a Winke fan for decades(?), however long he's been writing articles. Bill and the late Charles Alsheimer were always my faves.
Boy, decades. That sounds like a long time! I started writing for hunting magazines in 1991 - so I guess decades!
I also started shooting Hoyt’s exclusively in 1997. It was a Hoyt Enticer with the carbonite limbs and master cams. Like Bill’s Ultratec, this bow was by far my most successful bow when it came to punching tags from deer, Turkey and even my first bear. I still have that bow today, although I shoot an Rx4 now, just for the sentimental value is has. Good luck this fall Bill, I can’t wait to follow along weekly.
I still have the UltraTec also. Thanks for the comment and good luck to you also.
Shot day six for about 4-5 years now ! Probably the toughest micro on the planet! Also shooting the rx7 in wilderness! Looking forward to this series.👍
Thanks Eric. I am looking forward to trying those arrows. I have lots of good things about them. Have a great day.
Bill, happy to see you back sharing your passion. Not sure if this is a concern for you or not but something I am aware of, with older age, is what colors I can see better. For me I can’t see red as good as green, specifically in low light. Therefore I have my sight setup for my first two pins green and 4/5 pins green with red in center. This helps break up which pin you may be using during shooter panic but also allows for my more common shots 20-30y to be high vis when needed.
Thanks Chris. Much appreciated. That is good input. My own acuity (or whatever it is called) has changed a bunch over the years too. When I was a kid I thought I would be the one that didn't age. Well, here I am - aged. I also see the green much better. I need to start considering going to two pins. I still shoot five pins. Sometimes that is confusing and definitely overkill for whitetails in the places I hunt.
Been shooting Daysix arrows for the past 3 years , I won't shoot any thing else , good ,solid durable arrow .
I have been really impressed so far.
Ive bow hunted for 20 years, always had a site with a few different pins for different distances. Last year, late in season, i picked up a used bow from a friend for cheap, a Mathews DXT. It had a single pin site, site tape to mark for different distances etc. I practiced in my yard, felt good about huntin with it. However.... My last practice session was @ 30 yards, a few days later was 2022 season opener, got off work, grabbed my bow, hit the woods, at 0710 still on the ground (off work at 6am, running late, wasnt going to be able to make it to the stand without blowing out deer) a deer approached, i drew back, small grunt to stop the deer, the release touched off.... missed it clean at 12 yards. Yes. Pin was set to 30 yards, and with the adrenaline flowing, already tasting those backstraps, not being familiar enough with a new piece of equipment.
I was the idiot. Dont be like me. Dont be the idiot. Listen to Mr. Winke.
Hey, I have been the idiot often enough to run circles around you! The trophy room of the animals that got away that I should have killed would be way more impressive than the one I have.
I upgraded to a RX-7 this year. I love it best bow i have had.
Darrin, they are awesome bows. Best one Hoyt ever made.
So proud still that you’re back brother!
Daniel. I really appreciate it. Glad to be back.
Thanks Bill! So glad your back posting videos. You have a way of relating to a regular shmo like me & my buddies, hope that's not an insult! Lol
I really appreciate that Underdog. Thanks for the input. I really enjoy helping people and as the years have gone by I have enjoyed it more. I will keep trying to perfect the craft as long as you keep watching!
I'm looking forward to this series, love to get instruction,ideas and tip to improve my bow hunting! Especially from the great Mr.Winke!
Thanks Amos. I will do my best. I am not on the cutting edge of current technology like I might have been 25 years ago, but I do have 45 years of bowhunting experience to draw from so I can usually offer some perspective on trends, etc. that have been tried in the past.
@@bill-winke I'll take the experience over cutting edge technology any day..I've been a long time fan, thanks for the reply!
Great information Bill, I am shooting a Ventum 30, absolutely love it. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
Thanks for the comment Mitchell. I have not shot the Ventum yet, but I have heard it is a really good bow.
Setting the 2nd and 3rd axis is a great idea. Also I tie a nose button on my string using serving material. Its a great anchor reference in moment
Input appreciated. I will get that worked into the schedule. I have used a nose button before and I have also tied white floss around the bow string to serve as my "rear sight" instead of a peep, but in the end I always came back to the peep. I think three points of reference are good though: peep, nose on string, anchor point.
Keep us posted on the performance of those Day 6 arrows, great video as always Bill.
I like them so far, but won't know for sure until I have killed a few deer with them. I expect to do that soon as I will definitely take a few does this year. Thanks for the support.
Enjoying the content. Great perspective on why you chose your setup. Keep ‘em coming.
Thanks for the comment. I really appreciate it. I hope you have a great day.
The ultra tech is still my favorite bow Ive ever owned
I bet I killed 200+ deer with that bow.
I still pick up my 09 Alphamax 32.. it flat out shootd
Like your videos Bill. Informative and clear. Quiet is king ! So true. Person and equipment. After years of hunting with a bow, I now think I've been holding too close to the shoulder, grew up gun hunting. Lots of lung area on a deer. ie off the should a few inches works best for me.
Yes, that is good advice. I have seen studies that the middle of the lungs is the best place to hold, but I always aim high heart when I can keep my composure together because so many deer drop at the sound of the shot. Thanks for the input.
@@bill-winke Excellent point Bill. Continued Success
Great info, Bill. I've hunted deer for 30+ years, but there are always new things to learn and consider. Things sure have changed since I started with a hand-me-down PSE Pacer bow in the early 90's!!! I'm assuming there will be a discussion about broadheads at some point. Looking forward to all the parts of this series!!!
Tim, thanks. I agree, but it is interesting to see how things seem to circle back to the basics after a few years of "trying something new". I will touch on broadheads and my feelings are probably a bit controversial. I still love the small cutting diameter mechanical heads for one simple reason: under the widest range of conditions (wind, bad release, buck fever, etc.) they are the most accurate for me. My first priority is accuracy. I think before this next evolution of my media business plays itself out, I will be making my own broadheads. Good luck.
@@bill-winke I couldn't agree more. I'll choose the ability to hit exactly where I aim over any other factor--including penetration. I pick my shots very carefully, and have never had issues. My all-time favorite for accuracy, lethality, affordability, and durability is the Wasp Jak-Hammer. I've tried the NAP Killzone, which penetrates well and leaves a savage hole, but I've struggled to get field-point accuracy from them. Looking forward to hearing your experiences and opinions. Can't wait to pick up a set of those "Winke Warheads"!!! 😂🤣
Mainly, I'm just glad you're still using the Menards gloves!! Lol...good video Bill
Exactly. Those are the most important part of my gear list.
Teasing us with all those TrailCam’s…Waiting patiently! 😄🏹
I keep saying it, but next week... Really. I put out 12 yesterday.
I have shot hoyt for alot of years as well my first one was a Spectra Light Hunter back in 1993.... the ultra tec was my fav as well but the one I love most was the 2010 Carbon Matrix first year of the carbon bow... wish I had one now.
I have looked at the new stuff and frankly i would be very happy and am happy with there older bows... currently shooting a 2013 Charger an on the look out for a 2010 Carbon Matrix with the #2 cam on it and 60lb max..
Those old bows definitely have a place in our hearts. I still have the UltraTec. I will never shoot it again, but I will also never give it up. Have a great day and good luck.
Thanks Bill. I love my Day Six broadheads the are the real deal and help immensely with confidence that they will perform, best broadhead that I have used in 42 years of bowhunting, I might have try the arrows now!! Interesting that you shoot with gloves on, I assume to simulate "real" hunting conditions? Appreciate the insights.
Thanks for the input Scott. The owner of Day Six is trying to get me to shoot them this year and I am trying to get him to make me the ultimate mechanical. We shall see who wins out! I wear the gloves for all my off season shooting because I learned that the bow feels (and moves) a lot different with or without gloves and since I will be hunting with gloves I should be practicing with them too.
Awesome series bill! I’ve got a fool proof setup too. Something I can do all myself. Don’t have a bow shop close. Definitely been fun to mess around building arrows and trying new things! I’m Just enjoying the passion we all share! I Would like to see a tree stand setup / what are some tips and tricks that you put together over the years! The winking thought process on hanging the perfect set!
Hope the season is awesome I’ll be watching. “Dean”
Thanks Dean. I appreciate it and I share your passion for doing it myself. For better or worse, I have always set up my own bows and built my own arrows. No one has ever done either for me. I want to be able to control all the variables. I do think I have something to say when it comes to stand setups. I love to place the tree between me and where I expect to see the deer and then stand most of the time, using the tree for cover. It works great. Have a great day.
Love this segment!
Thanks Chaz. Much appreciated.
Since my 1997 Hoyt Tenacity, only one brand has ever came to the woods with me. I’ll be shooting a Hoyt for life.
They are awesome bows.
Sounds like this is going to be a good series can't wait
Thanks Brian. It may start out slow, but once I get my legs under me, I think that will be a really fun series. I am looking forward to it also, because I am going to work to get segments from top archers and bowhunters.
@@bill-winke I agree with your thought process with the 1/4 peep , you are actually the first person in a video to suggest that usually they say aim small miss small and use small diameter peeps and sight housing but I like to be able to find my target quickly and use a sight with a 2" sight housing with a dovetail and adjust it as to let only a small ring of light around the housing and I feel that it's really important to practice at different times of the day because of the different levels of light and really dial in the position of the dovetail and on my target instead of shooting at a dot I like to shoot at a vertical line for my left and right and a horizontal line for my yardage that way it's way more precise and easier because I'm only focusing on one thing at a time and I dont get as tired because I don't have to hold back as long ! Lol maybe a long response but hey !!
Nice setup. Mathews guy and I finally got to shoot a rx7 yesterday. I love it. My next bow for sure.
It really is a nice bow. Have a great day.
Thanks Bill! I’ve been shooting the Hoyt Torrex XT the last couple seasons and absolutely loved it. I’ve got 4 young children and lots of family expenses, so I went with the more economical Hoyt this time around. You might set one up and give your thoughts to us. As an expert on Hoyts I think it would make for an awesome video. Can’t wait to see how your season progresses! Thanks!
Have the Torrex as well. Would love to see Bill set one up.
I think they are going to send me one to set up so I can compare it to the RX7. Thanks for the input. Have a great day.
@@bill-winke Thats awesome Bill. Can’t wait to see the comparison! Have a great day!
It’s a little late for this year obviously but in the off-season play around with no peep. Put a nose button on for consistent anchor. The sight picture is amazing
Agreed.
@@dannjohnsonZ28 it actually allowed me to shoot with both eyes open. Couldn’t do it before
Same here. No more blur and the grouping stayed tight out to 60
I used to do that back in the late 80s and early 90s. I also tied a bit of white floss around the string to make a "rear sight" that I could align my pin next to. For some reason I went back to the peep. I will have to try that again to see if I can figure out why I gave that up. Had to have been accuracy.
Man I'm telling you I got your twin as a good friend he and you look just alike it would blow your mind anyway anyway bill you're an amazing person You have always been the inspiration to me and I'm not talking about just because you was A TV superstar or Midwest white tell just how humble open you areI mean look at this channel already it shows how relatable it's like one of the good old boys you know you guys set around shoot the crab shoot the bow just hanging out
Thanks for the comment and the support. I really appreciate. Please keep checking it out. We will add new stuff every few day.
Holy grab not only do I know you're twin but also you're shoot the sanec arrows right I thought nobody knew about these guys like their arrow you can shoot it into a concert block and it would laugh at you I bet it's 3 sixteenths of an inch thick maybe not quite that much but it is a super thick wall Which a lot of people are starting to realize there is no such thing as too stiff also and soon as the arrow recovers it's easy to eat Eating up all the energy that it can there's their shafts are amazing man I am so glad to see somebody else representing day 6 The shaft itself is kind of heavy for his grains per inch but man it is a fabulous arrow
I have only heard good things about these Day Six arrows. They are a bit heavy but for whitetails at the distances we shoot them, that is OK. Good luck.
I had to give up my compound, due to back injuries and diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my hands and I used a hand release since I was 14. I'm 52 now. I have went to a crossbow now. Have you ever thought about doing a crossbow video?
Drew, that would be a good addition to "The Setup". I have shot them but am by no means a savvy crossbow guy. I will see if I can find someone to fill that role. Have a great day.
I love the multi pin sight when I was younger. I went to a single pin as my multi pins now look like a Christmas tree.
I have heard that from a number of people. I am still shooting five pins and my have to rethink that at some point. Thanks for the input.
Im 50 with old man eyes..pins turned into a mass of starbursts and pins..had to go to a "specialty archery" brand peep verifier...i think is the name...can just google peep verifier if unaware of the product...think they are the only ones making them...like reading glass lens in the peep...is great to be able to see pins clear again..ive used it 2 seasons now...no problems with it...they sell anti fog to use on it...but i had zero probs with it fogging on stand...only time i saw fog was when walked into a warm house from freezing cold after hunting or shooting outside...i do shoot indoor to so if i went straight from target outside to target inside in winter...i had to wait a minute for fog to clear or use a q tip to clear it...anti fog may work..it just wasnt an issue..if ya never seen 1 and have pinburst...it WILL clear them up...with correct power lense the target remains clear as well..if its to weak the pins still blurry...if you go to strong the pins clear and target blurry like reading glasses at a distance...go just strong enough to get clear pins and target will stay clear..hope this helps
@@terrydewayne7690 Thank you. Does it come with multiple lenses?
@@markcharlton9020 negatory but there is a kit you can buy thats cheap to see wich lense you need...and also theres a spot on website i think that says if you use this power reading glasses use this power lense...but i just went middle of road...i use 1.5 readers and have the purple dotted lense..they are color coded as well...whole system , peep housing and lense was not exactly cheap...but worth it...think lenses are 40$..wanta say bout 100$ for hoysing and lense...may try a stronger lense as well...gonna go as strong as i can without blurring the target
@@bill-winke i use a 5 pin...vertical pins...with a pin verifier peep...nice and crisp pins...50 years old...2 years ago i could read fine...seem like over course of 6 months i went from seeing fine to needing readers...gettin old is def not for sissies !
Look forward to this series Bill! Have my second bow ever and first carbon one which should keep the bow from freezing to my glove! Can I ask what you do with your older model bows, do they ever get used again or do they become a dust collection system?
I have given most of them away. When I was doing a lot of bow reports and buyer's guides for magazines I would get at least ten bows per year. I usually gave them to friends, photo models (guys who helped me shoot photos), a landowner who gave me permission to hunt, my UPS man, etc. It is tough in some cases because I have a pretty long draw, so my personal bows won't fit everyone, but when I was doing all those reports I used to request them in specs that other people would use. I just went in the shop and looked. Right now I have seven bows. One is the brand new RX7 Ultra that I will hunt with this fall and one is my back up (RX4 Ultra). The rest are leftovers from bygone days!
nice to see more American made arrows to choose from
Yep, so much easier to control quality when it is made locally. Thanks for the support.
I remember your High Country days.
I actually worked there in 1991. While there I met Greg Tinsley who went on to edit Petersen's Bowhunting magazine. Started writing for Greg and that is how I got into the hunting industry.
I actually went back to an older single cam bow with a whisker biscuit rest. I’m shooting as good as I ever have and my bow is super easy to work on and tune. I have a portable bow press and I can do everything a bow shop can for the most part. The hunting I am doing in Ohio most shots are around 20 yards anyway.
Yes, keep it simple. I went for 20 years using a portable press. I was called the Bowmaster if I am not mistaken. I took with me whenever I traveled so I could always fix anything that went wrong.
Is that the ultra? I'll be bow shopping here soon. I'm finding my bow choices are limited since the average bow now maxes at 30". Being 6'5", I need 31.5" and the options are definitely much less. On the plus side, KE is never an issue.
Josh, yes it is the RX7 Ultra. I shoot it at 32 inches of draw. Like you, I am also 6'5" and it fits great. That was one of the reasons I started shooting Hoyt back in the mid-90s. They were one of the few companies that made a 32 inch draw bow. Of course, I fell in love with the bows in the process. Good luck.
@@bill-winke I still remember that first hoyt defiant I had back around 97ish. Then a havoc. Then an ultratec that I kept for 10 years or so until I got the alphamax. I've had several other brands, but I can definitely say I've never had an issue with any hoyt. Those early - mid 2000s tec riser grips were the best I've ever used too.
I still have the havoc and ultratec. Going to have to dig them out and shoot then again for old times
You might check out element archery storm arrow shafts. I think you would like them
I will take a look. Thanks for the input and comment.
Good video!!
Thanks Wallace. I appreciate the support.
I really learned alot from you bill thanks for the advice
Thanks for the comment and the support Jaquan. I appreciate it.
Hey Bill, what is that device on your bow just below the stabalizer threads on your bows riser? It’s about a 2” cylinder? Sweet bow and I like the color. I still shoot a 2015 Carbon Spyder Turbo. I can’t get away from it. Like you said as well with your setup, I like the looks of my bow as well as the performance it still holds over 7 years later.
That is a wind checker. I got that many years ago - maybe 25 years ago. If I ever lost my bow I would be more stressed about losing that wind checker than the bow itself! The Carbon Spyder was a really nice bow. I think it was one of the best Hoyt ever made. Good input.
@@bill-winke What brand is the wind checker. I recall it but cant remember the brand?
I'm shooting the hoyt nitrum turbo with the qad rest and a hha optimizer single pin I too like simple and gear that works
That is a good setup. Good for you. I am still leery about moveable single pin sights for whitetails. I am always afraid the deer will move after I hit full draw and I will have the pin in wrong place. But, I guess I should just try one and find out.
@@bill-winke I went to the single pin because it was easier to concentrate on in the sight window it took me a few times to find the setup that worked for me but once I've found I won't change because it works
I’ve still got your old Stryker cams Bobby swapped out .. 😎
I remember hunting with you Windell. Hope are doing well. I hope those cams are treating you well! Have a great day.
@@bill-winke
I have them put up in a box.. I kept them as a keep sake .. 😎
Been waiting for this video!
Thanks Todd. I will go into more detail in future weeks. Have a great day.
@@bill-winke I have the RX7 ultra as well, my favorite bow to date! Love the videos Bill!
Always been a "big" peep during hunting guy...i used the same 5/16 meta for over 20 years on bout 8 dif bows...sadly i caught old man eye syndrome....each pin starburst into a dot with 4 dots satelited around it...a complete mess of pinpoints and starburst..ya may say just use the dot in the middle but depending on how light hit the sight determined wich dot outta the 5 was actually the dang pin ! No go on that.....so 2 years ago i had to give up my old meta and go with a pin verifier setup...same size , 5/16..i do use a sight housing that matches it so i saw zero drop off in accuracy when i went big....but it does have a housing to screw the verifier into...its freaking huge...looks like a donut in my string...prob cost me a few feet per sec but i can see again all way til dark...if i can see the deer with my eyes still , i can shoot it ... And the look really grew on me...i love it ! Same year i began using a nose button...never used a kisser but man i really love the nose button...decades ago i played with serving wrapped around string to form a little ball bout the size of a nock set for a nose button but found the same as a kisser to be very easy to change its position slightly without feeling it...the little points on the bowmar button let you feel exactly...and i mean exactly where ya touching string to your nose not just on the tip but exactly where on the tip...at same time it moves the string away from my face just enough i dont have to worry bout beard/mask...im a stickler about lateral string pressure from face/nose/beard so id shave closer....now i got a zz top beard going...all good ! Tech tip episode is kinda nostalgic...i started my bowhunting life decades ago with tech tips from you and mr ulmer....never gets old...live long and prosper brother
Thanks for the input Terry. It is amazing how much my vision has changed since I turned 40. Seems like every year I have to adjust to something new. Good luck.
Team Hoyt baby!
Amen Austin. I have shot these bows since 1997, pretty much exclusively.
I noticed that you were shooting with gloves on do you always shoot that way or wait closer to season i always shoot with mine on think it makes a difference or not and have a good day bill !!!
Richard, I shoot with them on during the entire off-season. Depending on how slick the grip is, I think the bow reacts different in a gloved hand versus an ungloved hand so I want to duplicate hunting conditions as much as possible.
Do you normally not have a stabilizer? I haven't had one on my 2014 hoyt spider 30 ever. I believe stabilizers are pointless on most hunting bows, and just add something to get hung up while drawing in the tree...
Some bows need a stabilizer for balance - so it doesn't fall back after the shot. The RX7 doesn't. It has the little doinker looking thing near the bottom limb and that does seem to help with the balance a bit.
What broadheads are you going to be using?
Not 100% sure. I still have some old Rocket Steelheads that I will probably use (will have to sharpen them).
Dream Big brother 🙏
You got it Edward.
Really impress us shoot one of these big deer with a recurve or longbow traditional.
I have tried that and I am just not good enough. I did shoot a nice P & Y class buck with a Dan Quillian recurve back in 1992 or 1993, but I haven't hunted with them since. Despite practices many many hours, I got OK, but never what you would call good.
@@bill-winke don't have to be a pro just proficient your skills with the compound would transition just fine I'm a hardcore bowhunter shoot a Mathews but the modern bows all but shoot themselves now it takes a lot of the skill out of the archery hunting this past year I decided to go back to the roots of the sport and stick and string it. It seems like the more modern the equipment gets the more people give up they become less skilled cuz everything is dumbed down.
It would impress me if you drove to work in a horse and buggy, lol.
I mean, if you really want to do it the “hard” way, I suggest you learn flint knapping and throw a atlatl.
@@jbilly24 and let me guess you shoot or have a raven crossbow
K.I.S.S method away works best when in pressured conditions 👍
Agreed. The less I have to think critically during the moment of truth the better. But, sometimes we do have to figure stuff out on the fly so while we are sitting there we need to rehearse just about everything possible so we are ready for anything.
Did you ever use a thumb button release?
George, I tried them back in the 90s. I never really liked them. I guess I grew up gun hunting and the index trigger is just more natural to me. Some people love them and are used to that style. If you suffer from target panic with an index trigger release you might find some help with the thumb trigger models. Good luck.
Wonder how this will age
I don't understand the question. I have been rigging bows like this for a long time. This setup will last as long as Hoyt lets me shoot it before requesting that I try something newer. Good luck.
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Thanks Chris. I appreciate the support.
no looks like your bow has a little trimmer in it. If it does check tiller at rest and then at full draw.
I will. Thanks. I appreciate it. My fear is that I have the tremor!
I love the hoyt bow company. But I can't bring myself to spend $1800 on a bow. I had a hard time spending a $1000 lol
I know it. It is a lot of money. A good used bow is always an option.
@@bill-winke I have last year Ventum 30. I plan on using that bow until the limbs fall off. Lol. I will say I like the Fuse Products. Single pin sight is awesome.
I always tell people that buying a bow is like buying a car. A used or new in box flagship can cost the same as an entry or budget bow. You can get a new in box Elite Kure for like, $600
Shot Hoyt for majority of my life and loved them! Went to a Matthews because of draw length. Someone finally realized that big guys bow hunt and they were the only one with a 34” draw so I went them and it’s taking a lot of getting used to after shooting a short draw bow my whole life. Miss my Hoyt though!!!
is that bow settling for you ?
Probably not, if you are referring to my sight settling. I get better the more I shoot, but I am not nearly as smooth and relaxed as I was when I was younger. I guess that is why they have senior divisions in the big archery tournaments. By mid-October, it will be more stable.
To be precise, your bow is an RX-7 Ultra model, not the regular rx-7😉
Yes, that is correct. My oversight.
Day Six shafts are not American made. However, their broadheads and components are. Only Easton shafts are American made.
I guess they told me they are. In fact, the owner said that is one of the main selling points. I will have to ask him about that. I have been to the Easton plant and seen everything except the room where they make the aluminum and carbon arrows. They kept that door locked!
Fight the Algorithm
Don't understand what this means.
The new binary system Eliminated the spongy feel that always was a issue with there cam 1/2 designs as well as severe bottom cam lean that created vertical nock travel as well as vertical nock travel that required a limb driven rest .
Raymond, this bow is rock solid at full draw. I really like that feel. Have a great day.
@@bill-winke The new binary cam system puts equal pressures on the control cables for a solid wall.
Dang bill! 80 pounds
It takes a little longer each year to build back to it.
you dont need a new bow every year!!
No, I do think though that every three or four years the slight annual improvements in these bows add up enough that it is worth considering an upgrade. I am sure bow companies want us to buy every year, but that is overkill for sure. Good luck.
I shoot day six arrows
I really like them so far.
@@bill-winke I got them for a bear hunt last September, now I’m using them for deer hunting, I really like them.
Feels a little bit like an ad.
he can't work for free. I like bear single cams my self but bill has always been a hoyt man and thats good with me.
Yes, but is about my setup so I have to have reasons for selecting what I use. No point in hiding those reasons.
Nice advertising. I need to get a better agent.
The segment was related to my gear list, so it only makes sense to explain why I use each piece.
@@bill-winke Good to see you back on The Tube! I just knew you'd be back...... John Dudley is my bow Yoda. You are my whitetail hunting Yoda.
@@karlmadsen3179 you would be better off with levi
Dream Big brother 🙏
Thanks Edward. Same to you.