All You Need to Know on Valve Index

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    Today on Valve News Network, we take a look at the entire history of the upcoming first-party Valve made virtual reality headset, the Valve Index, along with every single bit of information regarding the HMD's features, release details and future updates. This video took over two weeks to create, and I hope you enjoy what I have made.
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Комментарии • 645

  • @maxwell_edison
    @maxwell_edison 5 лет назад +323

    Title: "all you need to know on Valve Index"
    Video start: "Ok, so Microsoft existed in 1992,"

    • @81Mendel
      @81Mendel 4 года назад +1

      Title: All You need to know on valve index:
      Video start: In the beginning our universe was in the state of undefined dense energy

    • @maxwell_edison
      @maxwell_edison 3 года назад

      @Enoch Tyson this is a really weird bot advertisement routine. Crazy how smart they gettin

  • @MrM4xwell
    @MrM4xwell 4 года назад +11

    8:24 "they said that we're working on an half-life game for VR, we seren't even thinking about a first party VR game, let alone Half-Life"
    That sentence is gold at the moment :D

    • @samsilver.42
      @samsilver.42 4 года назад +2

      Fractal Pitch is was thinking if anyone was watching this after alyx was announced

  • @staberas
    @staberas 5 лет назад +689

    holy shit, nice recap hope you get your free Index

    • @SirLithen
      @SirLithen 5 лет назад +26

      he'll miss the email though :)

    • @WoodysAR
      @WoodysAR 5 лет назад +9

      Bullshit,. I am a developer with 3 games in the works, I paid for my HMD and VALVE now refuses to help any more devs out with controllers! (I guess they have enough games with support right? LOL ) They said:
      "The Developer Kits Ended when the controllers became available for sale", I'm like OK Well, where can I buy some then? NOT EVEN AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER, I had hoped by the time my Index arrived around the 1st of July, I would be able to afford the controllers and JUST BUY THEM ASSUMING THEY WOULD MAKE ENOUGH SINCE IT IS A DAMN CONTROLLER HELLO,..
      They friggin LEAKED the things, then they were available for pre-order with barely a month in the meantime, I can't believe I was supposed to know to ask for a DEV KIT in that short amount of time,. They are ridiculous, They bite their own feet off, (extra dumb with EPIC STORE THERE READY TO TAKE UP ANY SLACK..) Always,. 2 steps forward, 5 steps back with VALVE... I offered to stop working on OCULUS Store and switch to Steam and they couldn't even help with a pair of controllers SO I CAN INCORPORATE *THEIR NEW STANDARD,.* I'm never going to worry about it now,. I think touch will be enough for now I will use Space Calibrator or something and get my Rift Touch controllers working with the Index. I also bought a RAZER HYDRA! :) DAMN VALVE, HAVE TO BE SO SHORTSIGHTED AND NOT STAND BEHIND DEVS,... THAT $530 WAS A LOT FOR ME!
      I will wait until the PIMAX Sword Sense controllers come out instead, they have a _REAL GRIP BUTTON_ in addition to finger tracking AND the Touch Pad is not between the Thumbstick and the A/B button but on the side! :) *_NICE!_*

    • @conoruddin654
      @conoruddin654 5 лет назад +2

      @@WoodysAR alot of current games are going to add knuckles support when they are out and its not that hard to do from what ive heard . just program for the current controller and then add the knuckles after , or try to contact one of the devs that have a knuckles controller to see if you could borrow it for a while

    • @crowbear3236
      @crowbear3236 5 лет назад +5

      @@WoodysAR can you stop using ,.
      You can either do a perioid(.) or a comma(,), not both!

    • @Medachod
      @Medachod 5 лет назад +3

      @@WoodysAR I prefer the touchpad being in the middle.

  • @randomblock1_
    @randomblock1_ 5 лет назад +783

    What would you buy for $999? An amazing VR Experience from Valve or a Monitor Stand from Apple?
    Tough choice.

    • @yourdoom9868
      @yourdoom9868 5 лет назад +71

      The apple stand will give you a Stand

    • @lunartic7367
      @lunartic7367 5 лет назад +32

      @@yourdoom9868 STANDO POWER!!!

    • @isaacgejames
      @isaacgejames 5 лет назад +3

      hmmmm I'm going to have to go with a stand

    • @pikkuadi
      @pikkuadi 5 лет назад +25

      Or food for 5 months

    • @ERROR_-_404
      @ERROR_-_404 5 лет назад +7

      I would go for the overpriced stand thats worth like 20cents of materials, thanks you

  • @Robbaz
    @Robbaz 5 лет назад +89

    Lighthouses was the right move, is the most solid tracking and even gave upgrade paths. People can go from the vive, to pimax / index or other headsets due its open approach. Rift users wont get that possibility, neither for headset or controllers. People buying into the Valve Index today, will get even better future proofing with the 2.0 paths.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 5 лет назад +3

      Absolutely agree, I'm running lighthouse 1.0 with Pimax 5K+ and Knuckles EV3 prototype controllers, and I not only know I can individually upgrade whichever part I feel like, I know it all will hold its value very well into the future. I looked at Rift but Facebook is the worst asshole company out there and the hardware of the Rift simply doesn't do anything a base Vive doesn't already do much better.
      Valve is the way to go. Oculus held much promise in the beginning but is now fading fast.

    • @The11thgrape
      @The11thgrape 5 лет назад +1

      All hail the Walrus!

    • @jackMJ26
      @jackMJ26 4 года назад

      I'm so glad I chose to get the Vive instead of the Rift CV1. I have a reservation for the Knuckles and I can't wait.

    • @corbz6932
      @corbz6932 3 года назад

      does it have built in sensors?

  • @smoldream2908
    @smoldream2908 5 лет назад +226

    Seeing Chet Faliszek’s actual face is weird because I’ve always envisioned him looking like Doug Rattmann

    • @Kpba32
      @Kpba32 5 лет назад +7

      I mean... He kinda looks like him

  • @Silo1195
    @Silo1195 5 лет назад +526

    Excellent piece of journalism, Tyler! Keep it up!

    • @XOCailleach161XO
      @XOCailleach161XO 5 лет назад +3

      Doesn't journalism involve proofreading? I'm 3 minutes in and I've already seen "were" instead of "we're" Three times. Sure, great information but the presentation isn't exactly professional. We're well past the days "it's just a RUclips video" means don't bother doing things properly.

    • @F4c2a
      @F4c2a 5 лет назад +2

      Considering the journalists we have these days in the mainstream media, I'm not sure if that's an insult or a compliment.

  • @GreatFox42
    @GreatFox42 5 лет назад +183

    "Part 2: Episode 1"
    that made my day

  • @ERROR_-_404
    @ERROR_-_404 5 лет назад +328

    6:25 - 7:00 this reminds me of how the Playstation started.
    Nintendo and Sony work together, Sony helps nintendo with hardware. Shortly after that Nintendo cancels the product and all work with Sony, just for Sony to come back couple years later to revive what they already had and to seriously challenge Nintendo's market share.

    • @kmeanxneth
      @kmeanxneth 5 лет назад +17

      They instead signed with phillips, leading to such "great" games as Hotel Mario and Zelda: the Wand of Gamalon. XD

    • @ObiTrev
      @ObiTrev 5 лет назад +30

      Nintendo was wrong to unceremoniously back out of their partnership with Sony publicly, but the reasons are understandable when given context. Nobody ever gets this story correct.
      Sony was not the only company that Nintendo was working with. During that time it was not uncommon for different companies to manufacture licensed variants of popular videogame consoles. Phillips, Goldstar, Sharp, Pioneer, Aiwa, JVC, LG, and many others had their own versions of various game consoles. Famously there is the Sharp Twin Famicom that combined the Famicom Disk System with the NES as one unit.
      The original plan was for a Sony CD-addon for the SNES and Phillips coming out later with its own SNES-CD all-in-one model. Each hardware variant had a specific place and price point in the market. The Sony Play-Station could be produced quick and expand existing SNES models for one price point. While the Phillips SNES-CD would provide a SNES, for those who did not already own one, with CD functionality for a slightly higher price point.
      The Phillips SNES-CD would have been cheaper than buying both a SNES and Play-Station addon separately. However, Sony also wanted in on the deal to produce its own all in one console. It should also be noted that the CD format was originally a joint venture between Phillips and Sony to begin with. Sony was also pressuring Nintendo for the ability to make their own games on the "Play-Station" without Nintendo's strict licensing. Which, if anyone knows anything about Nintendo's history, fought hard to protect its brand.
      Nintendo feared Sony would undermine their ability to control the user experience if Sony didn't need their approval. It also opened the door for other parties to circumvent Nintendo and develop SNES-CD Games with Sony. This puts Nintendo in the awkward position of supporting an addon that could effectively compete with the main console. However, Sony was allowed to build an all-in-one console dependent on following Nintendo's terms.
      (Years prior Coleco came out with an expansion module that allowed the Coleco Vision it to play Atari 2600 games and prompted legal action by Atari. They settled out of court, but Coleco was required to pay Atari licensing and royalty fees. No doubt Nintendo had payed close attention to this and its impact on the industry as a whole.)
      So, when Nintendo discovered that Sony was also exploring creating its own stand alone Play-Station variant without a SNES cartridge slot, it severed all ties. The truth is, prior to being "betrayed" by Nintendo, Sony saw the value of a fully CD based system and already wanted to expand into the videogame market. Not as a parts provider, but its own manufacturer. Other systems had already tried CD to a varying degree of success, but they were also highly dependent on Sony (and Phillips) CD format. So why not be the one to build the superior CD product.
      Phillips had postured itself in the days leading up to the announcement as being able to deliver a better product than Sony and would not step on Nintendo's toes when it came to licensing. Nintendo decided to publicly shame Sony by giving Philips the original Sony contract in addition to the stand alone. Nintendo did breech its contract with Sony, but it appeared to be worth it in the long run. However the ongoing legal battles killed the SNES-CD in infancy. Which allowed Sony to go ahead and move forward with the Sony Playstation as they had intended.
      Phillips, as part of its limited use licensing deal with Nintendo, produced the CD-i and the lackluster Zelda and Mario CD-i games. Which Nintendo saw as no real threat from Phillips in undermining their market or IP. In a twist of fate, Sony actually secured licensing from Phillips to produce a portable CD-i called the "Intelligent Discman". So, I do believe the mythology around the SNES-CD/Play-Station is a lot fan boy hearsay on all sides.
      Sony was then in talks to produce the Sega-CD/Play-Station with Sega America after the Nintendo announcement. However, Sega was a fiercely divided company between Sega America and Japan. Sony was vehemently declined by the higher ups in Japan "Over Sony's lack of experience in software and hardware". Sony then poached several key Sega executives to bring the Playstation to fruition on their own. Thus ensuring the death of Sega consoles.
      *TLDR*
      Companies tend to collaborate, break off, challenge, undermine, breech contracts, acquire, spin-off and etc. in the rat race to make a hit consumer product. This is nothing new and has been going on since even before electricity.

    • @ERROR_-_404
      @ERROR_-_404 5 лет назад +5

      @@ObiTrev I know the story but what I wrote was basically the short story. But thank you for writing a whole article about it.

    • @700gsteak
      @700gsteak 5 лет назад +3

      @@ObiTrev Do you have a citation that sony was building a standalone console before it severed ties with nintendo?

    • @saintkamus14
      @saintkamus14 5 лет назад +1

      This is nothing like that -_-;

  • @Panohiro
    @Panohiro 5 лет назад +157

    I see Tyler avoiding the number 3 a lot in this good one dude.

    • @Bigfoott
      @Bigfoott 5 лет назад +12

      Panohiro I guess he doesnt wanna scare away any Valve employees that may watch ;)

    • @opsoc777
      @opsoc777 5 лет назад

      His therapist must be making great progress, but remember, schizophrenia isn't curable.

  • @StiekemeHenk
    @StiekemeHenk 4 года назад +8

    Funny to see this after the HL:A announcement

  • @firepower01
    @firepower01 5 лет назад +161

    "If Valve believes in their deadlines."
    Good joke Tyler.

  • @JackLe1127
    @JackLe1127 5 лет назад +11

    I came for details about the Valve Index.
    I stayed for the *whole* history of VR.

  • @Terra-Antares
    @Terra-Antares 5 лет назад +79

    To everyone getting this practically magical device you guys better enjoy it, because valve spared no expense making the best experience possible and have said themselves that the profit margins are *razor thin.*
    I have full respect for Valve for that, sacrificing profits for an amazing experience for the user is something you rarely see other companies do.
    When dat heavy update comin' tho?

    • @slyseal2091
      @slyseal2091 5 лет назад +12

      Industry gets revolutionized: *I sleep*
      Pootman Renewal: *real shit!?*

    • @Zacq768
      @Zacq768 5 лет назад +9

      Sacrificing profits? bruh, they have so much fucking money and NONE of it is going towards the things that made them great to begin with. Valve practically owe their loyal fanbase a lower cost for these headsets at this point.

    • @TheWorldWideWebTheSqueakuel2
      @TheWorldWideWebTheSqueakuel2 5 лет назад +2

      *razor thin

    • @void7357
      @void7357 5 лет назад +23

      @@Zacq768 valve doesn't owe anyone shit, sure it'd be nice but you sound entitled

    • @myfunbox355
      @myfunbox355 5 лет назад +1

      What's the Heavy Update?

  • @snarcastic4452
    @snarcastic4452 5 лет назад +57

    I'm still calling it Knuckles and they're not going to change that.

    • @j.yossarian6852
      @j.yossarian6852 5 лет назад +5

      Valve Index & Knuckles & Knuckles

    • @snarcastic4452
      @snarcastic4452 5 лет назад +3

      @@j.yossarian6852 I can't wait for the Sonic & Knuckles Remaster, designed with the Valve Knuckles as the primary controller.

  • @MrBump2
    @MrBump2 5 лет назад +48

    This was a wonderful video. Excellent job, Tyler!

  • @Zulatek666
    @Zulatek666 5 лет назад +15

    The Index teaser and announcement on Steam was a correct marketing response to the Rift S. The photo they put up very prominently displayed the slider for IPD adjustment, which made a clear stand against the Rift's choice to go with a software adjusted IPD. Just my opinion. Great video!

    • @wiks50
      @wiks50 5 лет назад +2

      Yep, the announcement of the Index was well timed, in a time where people started to realize that the Rift S and Quest are underwhelming compared to the original Rift, Valve showed that they keep the ball rolling and made progress in the hardware. Oculus just made a step sideways

  • @Steror
    @Steror 5 лет назад +111

    Great video, very insightful and well laid out.

  • @SparksV
    @SparksV 5 лет назад +61

    This was a great documentary on the history of Valve and VR. Love this type of content

  • @alpkyu5201
    @alpkyu5201 5 лет назад +15

    - Part 1
    - Part 2: Episode 1
    - Part 2: Episode 2
    and that's it.
    yep, they deserve this.

    • @Likon
      @Likon 4 года назад

      lol

  • @BoilingBroth
    @BoilingBroth 5 лет назад +241

    If only I had a spare $1k

    • @pointlessviewer
      @pointlessviewer 5 лет назад +26

      If only I had a PC that could run VR

    • @Left4pillz
      @Left4pillz 5 лет назад +15

      $1200 outside the US, pretty big cost compared to the original Vive's launch of $877

    • @GG-ou7it
      @GG-ou7it 5 лет назад +4

      You would also need to upgrade your PC

    • @Dogelition
      @Dogelition 5 лет назад +34

      You'd be able to afford apple's new monitor stand!

    • @user-ne6qe5in2e
      @user-ne6qe5in2e 5 лет назад +1

      I'm guessing no one has seen the oculus quest?

  • @ralphrainwater
    @ralphrainwater 5 лет назад +6

    Good God man, how old are you? This is first rate reporting, well done in research, writing, and even your fast paced narration style. So impressive to see this quality of work. You've almost got me convinced to try Valve's headset out, though I've been very happy with my Lenovo WMR gear.

  • @shift7200
    @shift7200 5 лет назад +30

    So basically valve is targeting enthusiasts with high end expensive features in the hopes those features will trickle down over time to lower end?

    • @wiks50
      @wiks50 5 лет назад +7

      It means that a lot of people, even if they spend a lot of money now, will probably use the headset for a long time before it becomes outdated and superceded by competition, because it can probably stay relevant for years.

    • @nickbroekman9360
      @nickbroekman9360 5 лет назад +1

      wiks50 why do you figure that? The technological lifetime can be extremely short. Oculus can bring out a superior high end headset next year with tech leapfrogging forward. Even Valve might do that next year. No guarantees whatsoever. Its just a business strategy. Doesnt say anything about the lifetime of the index being top dog or even relevant for a long time. Don’t get me wrong. I think its a cool device. But lets be realistic when it comes to a new industry leaning heavilly on technological innovation to stay relevant.

    • @wiks50
      @wiks50 5 лет назад +5

      @@nickbroekman9360 Well, it took Oculus 3 years to take a step sideways and it also took Valve 3 years to take a step forward. Unless something groundbreaking gets researched and manufactured, the Index will still stay relevant because even if new gear will be released, I doubt many Index users will get new headsets for minimal improvements.

    • @party4lifedude
      @party4lifedude 5 лет назад +2

      The first cell phones were very expensive but rich people taking interest in them eventually led to the prices going down as they became more established and had better processes of making them.

    • @nickbroekman9360
      @nickbroekman9360 5 лет назад

      wiks50 I agree. But you are describing the industry as it was. I’m not going to predict what will happen. This market is far from certain on how or even if it will develop in more maturity. On the one hand you could say for Oculus that they have a serious staff and R&D budget. I know varial focus displays and more high tech stuff already was showcased behind screens. Might come to market faster then you might expect. On the other hand; if Quest flops maybe the entire market will stagnate and all the AAA games for Index will never happen. Whatever the case may be. In no way is it certain the Index will be a device for the long haul not being technologically outmanouvered. It would surprise me even in a healthy growth market.

  • @WallaceMoura
    @WallaceMoura 5 лет назад +27

    Marvelous video Tyler. Great job!

  • @Ju-on
    @Ju-on 5 лет назад +6

    I'm glad to hear that Valve is THRIVING in the VR space. If I ever get the money, I'm certain to get an Index. I just can't wait to see whats gonna happen with their games in the coming future.

  • @The_Allstar
    @The_Allstar 5 лет назад +39

    I think I just watched a Valve Index commercial.

  • @BrainPowerSubs
    @BrainPowerSubs 5 лет назад +69

    be sure not to miss a free headset this time

  • @MMMaddison
    @MMMaddison 5 лет назад +35

    I got to try VR a few days ago w/ inside out tracking and can confirm that it's pretty good as is. Not saying it matches outside tracking as I haven't tried it, but I think for most people it's sufficient.

    • @buckymorelike
      @buckymorelike 5 лет назад +16

      It's sufficient, but it's not the best experience by far. The index is shooting for a no limitations experience; one where you don't need to teach your brain to limit yourself every time you put on the headset.
      It's a promising technology, but it's not to the point where someone can have a seamless experience with it yet.

    • @HeckingGoose
      @HeckingGoose 5 лет назад

      It works better than with 1 or 2 base stations, as it keeps the tracking, but 3 or 4 base stations are easily better

    • @HeckingGoose
      @HeckingGoose 5 лет назад

      @Zatoichi for me though it requires more mobility then two bade stations can offer

    • @cyberguy9994
      @cyberguy9994 5 лет назад

      @Zatoichi I don't get why Oculus does not allow the Base station to work with the Rift S they said that it would work and needs just a new software and that they would enable it when there is enough demand but they don't want to give the image "that base stations are needed because in and out tracking is faulty"

    • @macrolec
      @macrolec 5 лет назад +2

      I have the Rift S and inside out tracking works great, I have no problems at all with it

  • @Kofferino
    @Kofferino 5 лет назад +12

    Great vid! Although the quest doesn't actually run on 80, but on 72hz

    • @thesafehouse2863
      @thesafehouse2863 5 лет назад +2

      Andreas Which imo is just such a weird number.

    • @Kofferino
      @Kofferino 5 лет назад

      @@thesafehouse2863 Agreed, mby because it's a multiple of 8 or sth...

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 5 лет назад +3

      @@Kofferino It's half of 144Hz.

    • @Kofferino
      @Kofferino 5 лет назад

      @@gyroninjamodder There we go, that makes sense

    • @ferencivanics9980
      @ferencivanics9980 5 лет назад

      It is very fine for 24 fps movie watching.

  • @sluxi
    @sluxi 5 лет назад +18

    This video makes it seem like the Oculus SDK was a sudden change after the Facebook acquisition but in reality Oculus was developing it way before that. Some of the background can be read in "The History of the Future", according to the book the release of SteamVR actually blindsided Oculus.

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 5 лет назад +1

      The SDK is separate from the Walled Garden approach Oculus tried to adopt, though I don't know if that's also covered in the book.

  • @MatnGames
    @MatnGames 5 лет назад +1

    I just LOVE your videos, you make me feel that Valve hype again from the new stuff, and I have missed this feeling so much. Thanks for the dedication you have for your channel and videos. I am happy you are here to be one of the only who focuses at Valve News.

  • @Die-Coughman
    @Die-Coughman 5 лет назад +1

    Valve's dedication to the consumer when it comes to there products is incredible.

  • @curly3632
    @curly3632 5 лет назад +22

    yeah i knew all of this but did you know that tyler missed out on a free headset

    • @smoldream2908
      @smoldream2908 5 лет назад +2

      Curly he missed it so badly that Valve didn’t even bother to try and send him an Index

  • @nicoper
    @nicoper 5 лет назад

    Incredibly well made video, Tyler.
    From the script, to the footage, to the background audio that sets the mood throughout the entire video.
    Absolutely outstanding!

  • @BOLL7708
    @BOLL7708 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this historical summary, it had me travel back in time experiencing the whole journey from high persistence DK1 to the Vive and the imminent Index. As a VR enthusiast, I am incredibly happy Valve are pushing the experience while not going into enterprise only territory.
    Playing Half-Life 2 in VR, which I mention often, had me start paying attention to Valve for real, it's what got me to follow this channel even, and what had me pre-order the Vive and Index as quickly as possible.
    Outside of the hardware I'm quite excited about any software they will put out there, The Lab still holds a very high quality bar. That said, it will be very interesting to see if their stand on artificial locomotion have seen any changes.

  • @lfrohling
    @lfrohling 5 лет назад

    Awesome work! I’m still loving the “adios”! Keep up the great work Tyler!

  • @standard_nova4269
    @standard_nova4269 5 лет назад +6

    Great video Tyler! Very professional, entertaining, and informative!

  • @martianmanhunter8219
    @martianmanhunter8219 5 лет назад +5

    Just something about the audio.. I reed somewhere that the audio in Source2 and Valve's new VR game is described as almost ray traced audio where every piece of audio in the game sounds different depending on the environment you hear that audio in

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 5 лет назад +1

      That's how game audio has worked for decades..........

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers 5 лет назад +2

    I have the Vive Pro... for now

  • @bradr1519
    @bradr1519 5 лет назад +2

    This is an outstanding video. Excellently done as always Tyler!

  • @colonelvector
    @colonelvector 5 лет назад

    This was way more thorough than I was expecting. Great job.

  • @Edifer2020
    @Edifer2020 5 лет назад +8

    Well well... Isn't this just like old times?

    • @commisso3806
      @commisso3806 5 лет назад

      Edifer2020
      We've been rather busy in your absence, Mr. McVicker

  • @xter7856
    @xter7856 5 лет назад +3

    Goddamn amazing and informative video, visually appealing and entertaining and kept me hooked onto this story all the way though. Good fucking work my dude

  • @Luigi-yp9sl
    @Luigi-yp9sl 5 лет назад +49

    are you gonna stream yourself watching E3 by any chance? would love that personally

  • @liquifiedart
    @liquifiedart 5 лет назад

    Cant wait to get mine. i got the headset and controllers. The 🕹 on the controller is a game changer. It means you can play sitting down comfortably and still move your avatar with ease.

  • @Gorilla_Jones
    @Gorilla_Jones 5 лет назад

    To all you young bucks, you have no idea how exciting the late 80s and early 90s where in tech. I miss those days. And you are speaking in 100% absolutes and the device isn't released yet.

  • @fbmowner
    @fbmowner 5 лет назад

    Incredibly detailed and a very entertaining amount of information, but now I just want this headset even more!!! I hate that i have to wait until September ( if even ) to experience this over my Vive. Well done and godspeed .

  • @UnknownSquid
    @UnknownSquid 5 лет назад +1

    Whilst the Facebook buyout of Oculus breaking up the partnership certainly seemed like a disaster, I feel like it may ultimately have brought us to a great place, and in fact been the best route for VR to flourish.
    Valve was always focused on quality and gaming, Facebook on mass adoption and casual use. Had Facebook not stepped in, we would quite likely be seeing better gaming oriented headsets and likely games to go with them sooner, but I strongly suspect the market and overall awareness of VR would still be far smaller. PC-VR has always had the major problem of being incredibly difficult to properly demonstrate to those that cannot access and experience it in person. With the Quest now being pushed out by Facebook, whilst a compromised in certain regards, it still captures the most important aspect of VR in my opinion, and that's 6DoF, motion controllers, roomscale. And it's delivering that basic understanding of what VR is and why it's worth while, to the mass market.
    From a PC-VR users perspective, someone buying one might seem like a setback of $400 wasted that could have been put towards a VR ready PC, but for the majority that was simply never going to happen without something to hook them first. Quest is that hook. A portion of this years Quest owners will be next years Index owners. It's the accessible gateway drug for the curious. And thankfully Valve didn't give up after both Facebook and HTC hampered their plans, and will be ready to provide that "best possible experience" to a far wider market than they would have had if left to push VR alone. It's a strangely win win situation.

  • @JHaas117
    @JHaas117 5 лет назад

    loved the video finally we get to see the index in all its glory

  • @PatrickOliveras
    @PatrickOliveras 5 лет назад +5

    I'm now realizing that news relating to Valve is one of the few areas in tech news that require some serious journalism abilities. Mad respect.

  • @pedrogeraldo5938
    @pedrogeraldo5938 5 лет назад

    love the video!! you outdone yourself, GONGRATZ!! But the end note stating that we can expect something before the end of the year, leads me to disbelieve, given how announcements and schedules have been going in these past times...

  • @MrJason005
    @MrJason005 5 лет назад

    I like it that they're sparing absolutely no expense on this, it's really going to get good reviews and give the VR market a boost

  • @hmrdev-billnye8166
    @hmrdev-billnye8166 5 лет назад +3

    The Valve Index is innovative,is the best headset to date according to those who wore it and played VR games with it and looks sexy,thanks Valve.

    • @jtno2
      @jtno2 5 лет назад

      Is it the best on the market? In that price ranges yes. Is it mind blowing? No. The improvements are incremental at best. Not earth-shattering. It's still tethered and still out of the price range for 99% of it's customer base.

    • @hmrdev-billnye8166
      @hmrdev-billnye8166 5 лет назад +1

      @@jtno2 Sure,you know what apple announced for the same price of a Valve Index?
      A fucking Apple Pro stand for the same price as Valve's new headset lol.

    • @hmrdev-billnye8166
      @hmrdev-billnye8166 5 лет назад

      @@jtno2 I think personally that the Price will overtime be lowered like HTC,but much slower because it's like a gem as i've heard or let's say cool.

  • @oscarRULER
    @oscarRULER 5 лет назад

    A lot of love went into that video and it shows. Amazing work, Tyler!

  • @mrmcnugget4205
    @mrmcnugget4205 5 лет назад

    16:50 a smile hit my face when this song came on

  • @ThatSecondDude
    @ThatSecondDude 5 лет назад +3

    If anyone is just trying to find out about the index itself, real information starts at 15:00

  • @ParadiseDecay
    @ParadiseDecay 5 лет назад +2

    Very exciting times for VR! Love it.

  • @elev8dity
    @elev8dity 5 лет назад +4

    @Tyler McVicker I disagree with your premise that hardware and software teams are acting completely independently. It makes sense to release the hardware before the flagship game. Right now the hardware is having a soft launch and is currently sold out. There's no benefit to launching the game now when they are already back-ordered. Once they have substantial hardware stock and sales begin to slow, the Flagship Game can be used to reinvigorate hardware sales. Also, we know winter holidays are the most popular time of the year for large technology purchases, so it makes sense to release the game around October/November to take advantage of the holiday season sales rush.
    Also, just a note about the IPD slider... the founder of Oculus Palmer Luckey published a lengthy rant on how the Rift S would be unusable for him due to lack of hardware IPD adjustment.

  • @digitaldystopiaVR
    @digitaldystopiaVR 5 лет назад +1

    I'll be enjoying mine on or by June 28

  • @Scrumplex
    @Scrumplex 5 лет назад

    I like this documentary-ish style and these parts/chapters. Nice!

  • @peoplepeople21
    @peoplepeople21 5 лет назад +17

    I find it sad that time and time again Gabe wanted Abrash to join his team and when he finally convinced him, Abrash left. The Valve Index was made for personal reasons

    • @BagsyBag
      @BagsyBag 5 лет назад

      That the Index was made for personal reasons is just your assumption.

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato 5 лет назад +2

    Great recap! Adam Savage's YT channel tested it and were REALLY enthusiastic about it too. Also, you didn't speak too much about the controllers in this video, but they seem to be quite awesome too. (Did you pre-order one for yourself?)

  • @TheGameGuruTv
    @TheGameGuruTv 5 лет назад +6

    Although your bashing the Quest and Rift S, they are great products for VR newcomers, and surely got lots of new people into the VR Space! Valve is pushing boundaries and Oculus is tightening the screw!

  • @SkillZgetKillZ
    @SkillZgetKillZ 5 лет назад

    Thank god this channel's not dead!

  • @Sl4yerkid
    @Sl4yerkid 5 лет назад

    wowee, I was pleasantly surprised when you said adios at the end of the video, I never hear anyone say it except for myself and it sounded so weird to hear someone else say it. I'm not sure why I'm bringing this up, but whatever!

  • @DougsDiggers
    @DougsDiggers 5 лет назад +7

    Nothing will ever top Spice and Wolf VR. Change my mind.

    • @dragonboya33able
      @dragonboya33able 5 лет назад +4

      Spice and Wolf VR 2. It will be just like the first one, but 40 minutes instead of 30.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +1

      It's a good game? I haven't heard much about it.

    • @DougsDiggers
      @DougsDiggers 5 лет назад

      Read the light novels first.
      Or the manga.
      It's a bit dialogue heavy so I recommend the novel.

  • @ThereminHero
    @ThereminHero 5 лет назад

    This video is quality in both production and information.

  • @CBeavr
    @CBeavr 5 лет назад

    for real i'd love to have the headphones as a seperate purchase, they sound very useful and easy on your ears

  • @thatyoutubechannel9953
    @thatyoutubechannel9953 5 лет назад

    Involved in Microsoft, Quake, Oculus and Valve? Holy shit. Abrash, someone I had no idea who was, is one of my favorite people in gaming EVER.

  • @applefruit8092
    @applefruit8092 5 лет назад

    this is probably one of the greatest videos you have made. pretty good stuff

  • @matthauber2767
    @matthauber2767 5 лет назад +3

    Valve VR Team :
    Fine, I'll do it myself....eventually....

  • @cbz3237
    @cbz3237 5 лет назад

    Nice video, the effort put into it is very apparent.

  • @InvaderZ117VODS
    @InvaderZ117VODS 5 лет назад

    You always do a great job with these kinds of videos, thank you for all your effort! Now even more excited for my index

  • @MrGunzngirlz
    @MrGunzngirlz 5 лет назад +1

    Got mine on pre order.

  • @pexeq
    @pexeq 5 лет назад +1

    13:29 The headset already has a 3 month wait time without a game announcement. Imagine they bundled their game with it and you had to wait months after release to play it the way it was meant to.

  • @WOTRetro
    @WOTRetro 5 лет назад

    you are still the best for valve stuff. Thanks a lot!

  • @MrDrpoptart
    @MrDrpoptart 5 лет назад

    This was playing on the projector screen in my 3D textures class last Thursday....never thought I'd see VNN presented in college.

  • @epochpilot9404
    @epochpilot9404 4 года назад

    I've watched this video at least 20 times as I wait for my Index to ship. Tyler pls.

  • @Rbrt92
    @Rbrt92 5 лет назад +1

    another great & insightful video, good job Tyler!

  • @christopherbrinkley7237
    @christopherbrinkley7237 5 лет назад

    Its excellent to see both a very high powered VR headset and a less powerful but more accessible headset together. Ya have the Index for the hardcore crowd and the Quest for the more casual crowd.

  • @kmemz
    @kmemz 5 лет назад +1

    16:45 I had the Lenovo Explorer, basically the Windows MR equivalent of the Rift S, and the Software IPD could NOT satisfy my eyes. I always got severe eyestrain after long sessions, and if I powered through and adjusted, I would get that "Ultra-real" feeling when I took the headset off, as my eyes had been decalibrated from my actual IPD, and I had a far oversaturated depth perception as a result. Fast forward to now, I have a Samsung Oddysey+, and the hardware IPD is better in so many ways. I can seamlessly transfer from IRL to VR without any hint of eyestrain, misaligned depth perception, or anything.
    If you want my hobest opinion, If you're eyeballing the Rift S, go for a Samsung Oddysey+, or at least save yourself the money and get a Lenovo Explorer, since it's pretty much the same thing with different controllers. The Valve Index is going to be hella nice though, if I have the money when it fully launches, I'll definitely buy in, and probably get an fbt kit as well for both social experience games and full body workout games. No preorders though, even if it is pretty much confirmed to be good stuff.

  • @mcnuggetchannel6060
    @mcnuggetchannel6060 5 лет назад

    Very professional piece, thank you for your hard work.

  • @jacooosthuizen3593
    @jacooosthuizen3593 5 лет назад +1

    i cant wait to buy this VR headset its exactly what iv been waiting for! i didn't buy any VR yet. Bring it ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  • @rustav3ry
    @rustav3ry 5 лет назад

    Fantastic reporting. Excited for the next video!

  • @turbo_co27
    @turbo_co27 5 лет назад

    As someone with a WMR, the inside out tracking isn't "far inferior" to lighthouses. The only time I've had a problem with it is when the cameras cant see my arms, like if i hold them behind my back.

  • @M0TYSHIZ
    @M0TYSHIZ 5 лет назад

    This is why you are the best Valve historian.

  • @krissjoe5052
    @krissjoe5052 5 лет назад

    A madman just payed to have the Gaben trailer as an ad in this video and i'm glad he did

  • @BudgyBudge
    @BudgyBudge 5 лет назад +1

    Nice video showing everything leading up to this point, I didn't know just how close Oculus and Valve were working together before the FB buyout. How is Trover Saves the Universe? Saw you put some clips in, thinking about picking that up this weekend.

  • @timothymckane6362
    @timothymckane6362 5 лет назад

    This is very good journalism, Tyler! Hope you'll do more even if it isn't Valve related.

  • @dragonboya33able
    @dragonboya33able 5 лет назад

    I bought it 5 minutes after it went live. I am so excited, its ridiculous.

  • @ryanhale3518
    @ryanhale3518 5 лет назад +2

    THEY CAN DO IT. I WANT TO BELIEVE

  • @Arch-Tau
    @Arch-Tau 5 лет назад +4

    5:20 I like this man for his shirt.

  • @AJSCATMAN
    @AJSCATMAN 5 лет назад +1

    Very well documented and highly informing video -You should make these more frequent.

  • @FuzzyPuppet
    @FuzzyPuppet 5 лет назад +1

    You said at the end of this video that the next time you talk about VR on this channel you will be saying everything you know about that flagship game. However you have since released like four new videos about VR and none of them are about that game… What’s up with that?!

    • @TylerMcVicker1
      @TylerMcVicker1  5 лет назад +1

      Sorry, I didn't plan on a TF2VR mode being announced. The HLVR is quite far along.

    • @thesafehouse2863
      @thesafehouse2863 5 лет назад

      Tyler McVicker No offense but it feels disingenuous to say “TF2VR” when referring to meat fortress. (Unless thats somehow not what you’re referring to)

  • @darkoleskovsek2558
    @darkoleskovsek2558 5 лет назад

    Can't wait to get my Index set

  • @TheMadBrad1st
    @TheMadBrad1st 5 лет назад

    Amazing video dude, wish I could like this video more than once.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 5 лет назад +4

    All I need to know is when it's coming to my country! At least make the Knuckles controllers available, Valve!

    • @tohchal
      @tohchal 5 лет назад +1

      In what's country you life?

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza 5 лет назад +1

      @@tohchal Japan. It's frustrating, because the packaging has Japanese on it, so they're clearly gonna launch it here, but there's zero indication of when! Next week? Next month? Next year? Who knows!

    • @thesafehouse2863
      @thesafehouse2863 5 лет назад

      fireaza Just for the record, while it’s more expensive it may be good to note that if you use some form of middle man to get it shipped to you it apparently doesn’t void warranty and stuff. Or so said some guy on the Reddit made a post about. He had a picture of an email, I’d have to find it.

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza 5 лет назад

      @@thesafehouse2863 There's a store that's selling imports, but it looks like they're in pre-order, so it looks like they won't actually have anything until winter. Hopefully by then we'll know SOMETHING about an official Japan release!

  • @knifekitty_ls
    @knifekitty_ls 5 лет назад +5

    so, did you check your email for free index yet?

  • @isgonrain
    @isgonrain 5 лет назад +32

    Clicking on VNN video with only 1 view. It's a privelage.

  • @purpuran4718
    @purpuran4718 5 лет назад

    Loved the recap! Great job!