What do you do with the white wire on motorized bike engine? Magneto Coil Loop
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
- What do you do with the white wire on motorized bike engine? Here's the info on that mystery white wire.
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It’s crazy but i spent 70$ on a bike china motor like this and could never get it going because it was never sent with instructions or a wiring diagram. This video just opened up everything for me thank you thank you!
White wire = 6 volts AC, 500mA. Send it through a rectifier & charge a battery for your lights. If you limit the current to 100mA, your spark won't notice it. Ride during the day and your light battery will charge. A bit of electronics knowledge will come in handy, here.
I was thinking about this but how do I limit the current?
not to argue or anything buddy but i used the white wire to run the lights on my old bike and they worked fine and never had any problems with it running . everyone says it robs power and it might but i would love to see some real proof of it . and not to mention that even if you dint use it why cut it off . its a great back up wire if something should happen to the blue wire . stick rips it in half or what ever . then the white wire could take its place . i even think you could run a 6volt to 12 volt dc step up converter to charge a battery if you wanted to . not arguing just kinda would like to see some real proof it robs power .
All good. Nothing wrong w/ a little debate or "prove it". My thinking is: Bottom line is you only have so much current off the loop. I'd rather have it for the spark. Also rather not have the wire hanging and short out causing the engine to die. I'm frequently wrong so there's that too
yeah it robs some power if you got a 12v Led light attach to it "Because i didnt know it was 6V" when she was On the engine will makes some efforts to starts but by the sound in the exhaust you will figure it out than some sparks missing the Pop Pop will be quieter than usual .. i got an expansion chamber without baffle ... its really easy to know when the sparks aint good .. You will be able to hear people talk if the" lightswitch" Off OOHH GAWD DAMM everybody in town will know where you at 😂😂
@@shawnlegare6714 ok that makes sense . i used 6 volt lights 12 volt lights were just to dim to use . but the 6 volt ones did ok . i would still like to know if a 6v to 12 volt step up converter would work . im sure it would but you still might get that drain . when i was using the lights the 12 volt light i had came in a antique Schwinn bullet light that a 6 volt and a 12 volt light bulb. ran fine with the 6 volt and like i said i never really used the 12 volt cause it was so dim you could not see anything . it would be nice if they got rid of the magneto and started using a regular stator . bring it up to a 12 volt system . thanks for your comment buddy . working out a good electrical system for the china doll is a pain but there are a couple ways . you could use a 12 volt bike wheel generator to a blocking diode or regulator then to a battery or use a electric bike 3 phase hub motor . ive seen i think it was build break and fix use two magnetos . just a good redesign of the mag casing make it a little bigger and it would hold a stator . shame that cant figure that out . thanks again for your info and take care buddy
Agree totally. In many States to be road legal a headlight must be on 24/7. Seems the wire can maintain charge in a small 12 bolt or lithium battery.
There are several upgrades to enhance power. Should balance out any loss. Perhaps on an out of the box stock engine power would be lost. But Exactly how much. ???
This was the only videos that actually helped thank you
Others seemed to all ramble about how to put the chain on then skim over this very quickly
White is for optional headlight but the resulting power draw would diminish the already poor performance output for your spark.
ok. how many volts?
@@pitapitabreadhe said 6v in the video
Could you use the wire for a possible electric start?
Finally someone making videos about these bikes built mine had a hell of a time. Wish i would known about your channel
Thanks! Welcome to my little channel
Why not hook the blue and white wire both to the coil ?
This was all I needed to get the bike running. Thank you X 1 Million!!!
Thank you that did shed light on what to do with the white wire
I really like the wago connector, I fill them with dielectric grease to prevent corrosion.
hmm.... because I do believe this magneto puts out 6v AC power it would explain why lights hooked up to it blink as there would be power then drain then power and so on unless you used halogen light bulbs which can run on AC power. drain from the spark asied ( let's assume it doesn't matter, which obviously it does) if one were to hook up low voltage led's and switches perhaps it could work for turn signals as led's can give a decent amount of light with little voltage and will automatically blink on this setup because they require DC power, so they will blink when a switch is pressed and the circuit of 6v of AC power runs to them. of course you got four lights in total so voltage on each will have to be low and you may still have to upgrade to a 12v magneto if you get power drain for the spark. However, one would have to keep in mind this would only be when signalling left or right so they won'tbe running constant. just a thought on this pretty much worthless electronic system comming off the magneto. one could maybe use a Tesla coil (which require DC power) off a battery in place of the regular coil to provide the spark of course then you need to make a timing setup which would be hard. hmmm I like the initial concept they had but even me not being much of an electrician knows this system is pretty hard and likely pointless to do anything significant with.
Just installed the IMAYCC 80 cc took white wire and put a bridge rectifier between it and black wire. At idle had 26 volts dc. Rpm wide open 109 volts dc. Building voltage divider now. To keep it around 14 vdc.
The way you explained the kill switch wiring helped me figure out how to make a hybrid and yes I mean hybrid as petrol-powered and electric hopefully I don't short anything and it should be at the press of a button as the engine goes off the moter goes on if I use a button as motor throttle and melted underneath the throttle pedal would it run on the same throttle I wonder
PS this channel is amazing you have a new subscriber thank you for the help
Greetings my friend. I would like to ask you some questions for the 2 stroke motorized bicycles kit. I already have one for years. It has a magnet coil wich produce 6 volts through the white wire. I have put some led bulbs, at the front and the rear of the bicycle, which works between 6-24volts. With more volt power (than the 6 i have), they produce more light. I have tried to work them with an after market magneto coil, which produce 12 volts (indeed- i have mesure it) but does not produce much watts(or ampere) to light good the lights. If i buy the 12volts mini generator (like this in your video with title "80cc 2-Stroke Motorized Bike Build EP8 - Generator Installation" ), can i connect directly the cable to the lighting wire? I do not want to put batteries etc.
there is a fellow here on RUclips that's selling alternator kits designed for these blocks. it's essentially a modified scooter alternator modified to mount to your bike that runs on a belt which connects to a pulley that's threaded into the bevel gear, (of course you do have to drill a hole in your cover but whatever), then you can simply attach a small 12v battery off of that baby and Bing all kinds of electronic power, usb ports, stereo, headlight, blinkers, horn, a mini freezer cooler on the rack on the back 😉, whatever you can think of that can run on 12volt, perfect for electric air pump when needed wherever. I will see if I can find the link to the video. He is selling them.
It's for the headlight you'll never want to install which makes your spark weaker.
The white wire? I have an engine kit coming
@@jordananderson8299 dude watched the video with his eyes shut
On mine the white wire from the magneto goes to control the overrev.
That sounds interesting, can you elaborate? I've had my bike for about 200 kms now and I've done a bit of troubleshooting with the carb and clutch, but I don't know anything about the electrical system and info about the rpm range on the china 80cc seems difficult to find.
Does a tune exhaust pipe can improve the performance of a bike engine?
Yes, Porting and proper jetting are key
@@HughesMotorized can i connect second cdi on paralel to another cdi to make spark for spark plug in exhaust?
That solves my problem. Thank you
Bro i accidentally brokw the end of the connector to one of the cables from the throttle but i guess if we dont need to white one i can use it an clamp it in the broken wire with pliers. But motor came with stuck clutch , have to fix that to spin the wheel , seen your other vid on that so thanks a lot bro
how many watts or amps can the white wire have? 3W/0.5A or more ??
I don't know. I never used it
DIY flame kit using the white wire? I think I might
Video please
@@HughesMotorized mine doesn’t have a white wire
Where does the coil pack on left side of the coil for the 80go
What kind of spark plugs I need for this
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What if from magneto comes blue and red wires which one do I connect to the cdi with blue wire?
Blue to black
Actually you can use the 3rd wire as a pick up or a pulse but i dont find a cdi to put in or i dont know enough to wire it😢
Is it possible to desolder the white wire instead?
Sure
Not worth the risk
What are the model number for these motors I bought one from Facebook and need parts
Most are simply generic 66/80cc. Parts are available on eBay. There are FB and Reddit pages that can help. Post pics and ask away
The boat from the magneto was tight so I was not too sure on my two-cycle motor what caused it
Good video Sir😎
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Thanks I was wondering and converting to battery led anyway. Nice Master Shake tat
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Good info to know!
While I don’t have a motorized bicycle, I do have a small piece of white wire that I certainly will enjoy throwing in the trash
Preach !!!!!
Really like your channel , Years ago I had a Italian made Harley dirt bike, and later a Norton commando. Now I don’t even have a bicycle, But I have a friend who has a (older?) power king bike motor kit in a storage tote And wants me to install it on a bicycle, which I am excited about. Here on your channel I’m finding all the information about it’s components and how to get it going, Very nice Content thank you very much, More than likely I’ll be saying thank you with a donation as well
Cut it first.
@@Gonefishing185 Back in the day I had a Harley SX175. Made by Aermacchi. Fun bike. Thanks for the kind words. Glad to help
Update, recently acquired a pair of 1970s Raleigh twenty’s , So at least I’m on two wheels
You can't argue with a guy who has master shake tattooed on his forearm
All I did was leave it put a shrink tubing on it call it a day ..
Why does my clutch arm wear out in 3 days have never been able to keep a clutch wire working right
I greased up the cable, still using the original
Try adjusting your pad side to make sure it's not too tight or you may need a new internal clutch spring,you can adjust it to get it right. Are you burning up bucking bars,clutch arms or what? Just having to tighten the wire till there isn't any then seeing the control arm worn kinda round on one side?
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My clutch won’t disingauge my wheel
I have same problem bud. Hey there's a video about the clutch .n said how to fix the issues I hope you get your bike run .
White wire is a power wire for a headlight according to my manual
Correct. And using it will rob power from your spark = lower performance
Appreciate the info thank you so much I love your videos to keep doing more
great info . the wago will give a better connection. then the one"s on the china motors. thumbs up.
I just tryed getting mine going for a hour stoned with the red an black in the black 😂😂😂
So its for a led light ?
It simply provides 6 volts. So anything that uses 6V DC would work as long as it does not exceed the current
I had like a shot and a half of oil and gas coming out of the magneto coil can you let me know what was wrong with that
bad crankshaft seal
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I robs power from the engine because it's connected to the blue wire. If you separate the coil from the ignition system you can add a regulator rectifier and charge a battery for lighting. I've done it before and plan on uploading a video on it in the future.
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@@Mankikuski thanks for subbing. It will be coming soon.
@@SamZStuff Thanks
@@SamZStuff Did you use the bicycle original magneto to lights because i have original magneto with white cable
@@Mankikuski I did get the 12 volt coil from eBay. But I think they are the same. But yes the white wire is connected inline with the other wires. It needs a little bit of rewiring to work good without bogging down the engine.
It will work i run in my battery pack..
I thought people saying the white wire is nothing was bs. So I never used it anyways. Then for some reason tonight I decided to check it out thinking it was on a different coil and prove it was bs. Well.. I wired up a light to it and it really did work. Made that light blink like a freakn DISCO! MAN that was cool af. And the motor didn't do a damn thing, absolutely NOTHING. SO I disconnected the ground from the light. No disco?! And no fire! I was like Oh Sht! I fries the cdi.. ☹️
In a panic I yanked that mfr off and tried again. That smb fires off and took off like a bat outta hell. Fuel of fuel, had the throttle wide open trying to clear it. That wire is BS. Cut that thing off.
Why not use it to run a Hyzor, that’s what I’m going to do.
You must mean as about as “useful” as a screen door on a Submarine
you gonna found it funny but my i had a safety killswitch on it 😂 and my extra killswitch saved my but hahaha the switchon the twist throttle that came with it died on me at the 3 ride 😂
🤬🥊💥🤕I can't believe some of the stupid fucken comments, education before conversation🤔🤫🤡
"Extra Killswitch" wow, all hooked to your magneto I bet¿ I would like to know how it saved you? lol!
What's a "3 ride"?
It's always that damned white wire. 😬
Amen
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