@@ianpurcell7266 No rest for her with all that carpentry. She loved a bit of DIY. You should have heard her hammering inside the coffin as we lowered her into the ground. Sounded like she was paneling the walls or building a breakfast nook.
LOL Do you not even understand what is being illustrated here? A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents. You must have missed the news- properly laid up carbon is harder than steel. You have little understanding of bike frames.
I think it already broke on the 5th hit where it made the high pitch tone, sounded like as if the tension was released and the bonded layer separated. So the paint flexed but the inside would be cracked.
Ill take denting over a sudden catastrophic explosion of carbon slivers when you least expect it. Thats why you have to get anything carbon checked out professionally after any impact or wipe out. Because if it has even a small hair line fracture it has to be most likely replaced if it cannot be fixed. $$$$ I honestly dislike carbon fiber road bikes because the cons out weight the pros for me.. i prefer Titanium hands down.
@@TarmanTheChampion While it is certainly advisable to check it out by a professional, carbon tends to crack and make noises in case of material damage. Aluminium just snaps in comparison.
@@TarmanTheChampion Titanium frames flex too much. Flexing causes a loss of power transfer to the bike. This is a big reason that most professional racers stay away from titanium and stick with carbon fiber. I've put nearly 10,000 miles on my carbon frame bike. I rode steel and aluminum bikes for years. The difference is overwhelming. I have to eat all the words I spoke against carbon fiber bikes before buying one. I will never go back.
LOL Do you not even understand what is being illustrated here? A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents. You must have missed the news- properly laid up carbon is harder than steel. You have little understanding of bike frames.
That’s not a good test If you want to test the toughness in a meaningful way You have to impact it. And then test compressive strength Carbon finer frame don’t fail by getting holes in them they fail after strength is reduced due to impact
Finally! Someone who gets it! I can't believe all the comments from the carbon fiber haters. They have such little understanding of frame materials. A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents.
Try this with an aluminum frame or even a steel frame. Let me know how it goes. LOL I'm surprised at how little people know about bike frame materials.
@idka4523 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
@aneyelesspig8899 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Hitting a frame gently with a hammer is one thing, putting a 150lb rider on it going 15+mph is an entirely different test. Not to mention a more realistic scenario.
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Why make a video trying to test the durability of Carbon Fiber Frames and fail at it miserably. First simulate it dropping to the side and front from low ground. Then high ground. Then use force for fissures and fractures with actual hard mounting hardware and not use your own human flesh which is weak and absorbs the impacts. 🤦
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
sorry, but this "test" is absolutely dumb!!! A bike frame simply isn't made for forces like this, and it will NEVER experience such forces in real life
...and btw - it was damaged long before you could see any damage outside, because delamination has happened way earlier - probably at the first struck with the hammer... but again, that is complete BS
@fiddleronthebike Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. I'm surprised at the comments of those who know so little about frame materials. A properly laid up carbon fiber frame is harder than steel.
@@BicycleForHealth a well made carbon frame is very stiff and durable - if it is handled properly. This type of force it will not take well, and as I said before: the frame was severely damaged long before you see it from the outside! The delamination caused by the hammer does minimize the strength of the frame significantly. Many people do absolute not understand how carbon composite works and what the advantages (and restrictions) of it are! This video illustreates nothing! It's BS
@@fiddleronthebike I have a background in metallurgy. Do yourself a favor and watch the video below of CF frames being tested against aluminum alloy frames. The comparison isn't even close. As for titanium and steel, there's too much flex causing loss of power transfer. This is why CF is the frame of choice for racers. It's not that tough to make a lightweight steel / aluminum / titanium frame for racing. But racers know about the problems with these metals. CF has been one of the greatest achievements of all times in bike builds. ruclips.net/video/w5eMMf11uhM/видео.html
@@BicycleForHealth I absolute agree! Carbon frames (if well made) are far superior to steel, aluminium or titanium frames - and I never opposed that! But you don't see the qualities of carbon frames through tapping them with a hammer
@Pietmuis1001 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
@jamcguire100 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
😂 the simple minded people will swallow this advertisement hammer trick. Hitting it with a hammer is not the same as landing a jump with a 150-250 lbs guy. Leave carbon for road bikes and hyper cars. 🤣
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
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Carbon is strong, but also that guy swings a hammer with the same force as my grandmother that has been dead for 4 years.
I'm sure your grandmother would be thrilled that her incel cockroach grandson is using her memory in a cheap, unfunny joke. Have some damn respect.
May your dear grandmother rest in peace
@@ianpurcell7266 No rest for her with all that carpentry. She loved a bit of DIY. You should have heard her hammering inside the coffin as we lowered her into the ground. Sounded like she was paneling the walls or building a breakfast nook.
He's holding the hammer in the middle, really reducing it's power.
I thought the frame would crack easily... hence the smaller swings. if had known it would be that strong I would have grabbed the sledge hammer!
Mans eyebrows go up with every hammer smash 😂
Haha 👀
Bro 🤣🤣🤣
I was focused on that too lol
The force is dissipated through movement of arms and hands. Try that on a bike firmly planted on the ground and see what happens.
LOL Do you not even understand what is being illustrated here? A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents. You must have missed the news- properly laid up carbon is harder than steel. You have little understanding of bike frames.
The kind of therapy I'll get to reduce my anger issues
Bike frame be like "stop trying to hit me, and hit me"
I need guns. Lots of guns.....
Bro's the hitting the bike with less strengh than your average crash on the road
Hit it with your purse!
Now introducing it's bigger brother, a 20 pound sledge.
he should have taken off one of his high heels and tried that.
I've gone through 3 high-end carbon frames.. All cracked.. Now I've gone back to Ti framesets.. No more carbon frames for me
Only a fat monkey who gap jumps over his abilities is going to destroy a carbon frame you better stick with video games
This confirm carbon frame is really strong
The paint is stronger than my phone screen protector
im searching day and night for a giant tcr/ propel carbon frame ...this breaks my heart
Hitting a frame with a hammer isn’t even remotely the same as a 200lb person on it taking a spill lmao
I snapped my carbon frame when I got car doored at 30kph. Top tube, down tube both.
Ouch... I hope there were no major injuries 🤞🏼
I think it already broke on the 5th hit where it made the high pitch tone, sounded like as if the tension was released and the bonded layer separated. So the paint flexed but the inside would be cracked.
And if it was aluminum it would have been demolished.
Trying to stop the creaking?
Try on carbon seatpost pls
Giant xtc?
Querendo vender o martelinho da shope?
I did a gravel race today and slammed into rocks so hard that it would've dented a metal rim. Carbon rims are way stronger than metal ones.
Ill take denting over a sudden catastrophic explosion of carbon slivers when you least expect it. Thats why you have to get anything carbon checked out professionally after any impact or wipe out. Because if it has even a small hair line fracture it has to be most likely replaced if it cannot be fixed. $$$$ I honestly dislike carbon fiber road bikes because the cons out weight the pros for me.. i prefer Titanium hands down.
@@TarmanTheChampion While it is certainly advisable to check it out by a professional, carbon tends to crack and make noises in case of material damage. Aluminium just snaps in comparison.
@@TarmanTheChampion Titanium frames flex too much. Flexing causes a loss of power transfer to the bike. This is a big reason that most professional racers stay away from titanium and stick with carbon fiber. I've put nearly 10,000 miles on my carbon frame bike. I rode steel and aluminum bikes for years. The difference is overwhelming. I have to eat all the words I spoke against carbon fiber bikes before buying one. I will never go back.
Don't hold it up in the air and absorb the impact energy with your arms. Put it on the ground and hammer it into the ground.
LOL Do you not even understand what is being illustrated here? A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents. You must have missed the news- properly laid up carbon is harder than steel. You have little understanding of bike frames.
Stop flirting with it and hit it!
Try hitting an aluminum frame or even a steel frame like this and you will get DENTS.
Now send it back to Giant for a warranty replacement.
Use a 28oz framing hammer and generate some force I know carbon is strong but it would still be interesting to see
That’s not a good test
If you want to test the toughness in a meaningful way
You have to impact it. And then test compressive strength
Carbon finer frame don’t fail by getting holes in them they fail after strength is reduced due to impact
Either way, carbon fiber aint no joke. Its strong.
Finally! Someone who gets it! I can't believe all the comments from the carbon fiber haters. They have such little understanding of frame materials. A couple hits to an aluminum frame would have dented it. Probably 5-10 hits to a steel or chromoly frame would get dents.
Now do that to an aluminum frame.
Exactly! Someone who gets it!
Muito resistente
Hit the top tube.
nothing will convince me that glue and cloth is stronger than metal. it might be strong enough but brittle as sh1ite
Glue and cloth? You don't understand CF.
My 2017 Scott foil has been through at least a dozen crashes. Amazing how the derailleur always loses the fight not the frame
certainly it was harder than my nerves.
Psh no swing there.
So...strong enough
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It that a 4 ounce hammer🤔😂
Make it mire realistic man... Like, how hard it will be on actuall crash
Try this with an aluminum frame or even a steel frame. Let me know how it goes. LOL I'm surprised at how little people know about bike frame materials.
Same hammer blows to a steel frame..." Did someone tap me on my shoulder?"
😂
they dent pretty easy
Give me this fram😢pls
Ehh your arm absorbed all hits, you don’t need to be smart to figure that out.
Tiny hammer.
😳
Carbon fiber is good for road bikes but not for mountain bikes. Agree or disagree and why?
Pro or Amateur weekender ???
@packfan1946 I would only buy best-quality carbon for road or MTB. When it's laid up correctly carbon fiber is harder than steel.
Use right hand like a man
Cant keep my eyes off of his eyebrows
Oh, its a Giant, not surprise.
He's using a right handed hammer while he's a lefty!
Can you see what swinging the frame against a post does? I think it's more relevant than having a small impact zone from a hammer
I'll put that on my to do list 😂😂
@idka4523 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
it pains me
The speed at which you hit a hammer wont match the speed of crashes
@aneyelesspig8899 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
So...what about the test with a sharp stone and not with a rounded hammer?
Is it true, that once it breaks, even a little, it is done?
It depends where the break is, if it's not in a vital area then it can be fixed 👍🏼
Hitting a frame gently with a hammer is one thing, putting a 150lb rider on it going 15+mph is an entirely different test. Not to mention a more realistic scenario.
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Man the oceangate submarine shouldn't have imploded then 😔
if you would put down your purse
This hurts to watch
Not a good test approach .
Really? Not good? Try this with an aluminum frame or even a steel frame and let's see how it goes. LOL
Why make a video trying to test the durability of Carbon Fiber Frames and fail at it miserably. First simulate it dropping to the side and front from low ground. Then high ground. Then use force for fissures and fractures with actual hard mounting hardware and not use your own human flesh which is weak and absorbs the impacts. 🤦
Ok engineering Karen
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
sorry, but this "test" is absolutely dumb!!! A bike frame simply isn't made for forces like this, and it will NEVER experience such forces in real life
...and btw - it was damaged long before you could see any damage outside, because delamination has happened way earlier - probably at the first struck with the hammer... but again, that is complete BS
@fiddleronthebike Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. I'm surprised at the comments of those who know so little about frame materials. A properly laid up carbon fiber frame is harder than steel.
@@BicycleForHealth a well made carbon frame is very stiff and durable - if it is handled properly. This type of force it will not take well, and as I said before: the frame was severely damaged long before you see it from the outside! The delamination caused by the hammer does minimize the strength of the frame significantly. Many people do absolute not understand how carbon composite works and what the advantages (and restrictions) of it are! This video illustreates nothing! It's BS
@@fiddleronthebike I have a background in metallurgy. Do yourself a favor and watch the video below of CF frames being tested against aluminum alloy frames. The comparison isn't even close. As for titanium and steel, there's too much flex causing loss of power transfer. This is why CF is the frame of choice for racers. It's not that tough to make a lightweight steel / aluminum / titanium frame for racing. But racers know about the problems with these metals. CF has been one of the greatest achievements of all times in bike builds. ruclips.net/video/w5eMMf11uhM/видео.html
@@BicycleForHealth I absolute agree! Carbon frames (if well made) are far superior to steel, aluminium or titanium frames - and I never opposed that! But you don't see the qualities of carbon frames through tapping them with a hammer
Use a real hammer and a real swing!!
@Pietmuis1001 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Hurt to see
I know right!!
Why not hit it with a real hammer, not some 8oz childs toy?
@jamcguire100 Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Hit the BB like that, or any other seems....yep.
Done.
I kicked back and broke rear fork. 🤷♂️
😂 the simple minded people will swallow this advertisement hammer trick. Hitting it with a hammer is not the same as landing a jump with a 150-250 lbs guy. Leave carbon for road bikes and hyper cars. 🤣
I prefer titanium over carbon on my road bike
Do you really not understand what is being illustrated here? Try hitting an aluminum frame this way or even a steel frame and see what happens. A properly laid up carbon frame is harder than steel.
Now do an ultrasound scan lol
Put a rider on the bike and then hammer it. Easy