Supplements I Take on Medical Keto and Why It's SO IMPORTANT
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- Exploring supplements and especially ensuring I'm supplementing electrolytes in the beginning stages of medical keto have been absolutely crucial in feeling well while making this transition. In this video, I share with you exactly which supplements I take and why, as well as what my keto coach Nicole Laurent has to say about some of the supplements she has recommended I take while on medical keto. I also share some of the supplements that I intend to explore in the future once I know how medical keto affects my illness, so that they are less confounding variables in this project.
Pill case I talk about being very useful: amzn.to/3vbjxq4
UPDATE:
Nicole had some additional insights regarding what I shared about taking ashwaganda and being interested in probiotics down the line. Here’s the advice she shared with me:
“I want to encourage you to not take that daily but on an as needed basis if you are dealing with a stressful time. On a ketogenic diet, your adrenal system starts working properly again. This herb is known to modulate hormones. I don't want it messing with your hormones because we are getting that back on track. It also has effects on liver, immune function and thyroid. It has neuromodulation effects on dopamine, serotonin and GABA! Your keto diet has got all those covered. It is a really powerful modulator in a body where things are not going well. But we do not understand it's effects in a body where things are going right. We don't know if the pathways modulated add to the ketogenic diet or get in the way. That said, I like a bit of Ashwagandha tea from time to time if I am feeling stressed for some reason, am a little tired, etc. I like Organic India brand.
And then probiotics! Please do not add a probiotic until we talk more about it first or even wait until after your six month experiment is over. The ketogenic diet radically changes the gut microbiome in favorable ways. We want to get out of it's way and let it do it's magic, which can include stopping seizures and helping put bipolar and schizophrenia in remission! As humans, and our current state of the research, we do not know best when it comes to microbiome. The ketogenic diet is already upregulating "good" bacteria in a sustainable way and rate that no probiotic is going to be able to touch. Also, most of the research on microbiome are not on ketogenic guts, although there are a few. So by all means go down the rabbit hole and explore in general, but I do not recommend you play with probiotics for yourself at this point in your recovery.”
Timestamps:
00:00 The mistake I made last time I tried keto
01:20 The pill case that makes it so much easier - find it here: amzn.to/3vbjxq4
02:34 Why I'm taking additional supplements more specifically for schizophrenia
03:20 Electrolytes (magnesium, potassium, sodium)
06:57 Acetyl L Carnitine
08:41 Vitamin D
09:10 Multivitamin
12:17 NAC and Glycine (precursors for glutathione)
15:04 Ashwaganda
15:33 I'm still on meds!!!
16:05 Supplements I intend to explore in the future (methylfolate, ginko biloba, sarcosine, omega 3 fatty acids, lion's mane, and probiotics
MEDICAL KETO RESOURCES
You can learn more about medical keto for mental illnesses on the Metabolic Mind RUclips channel (@metabolicmind) and on their website www.metabolicmind.org/
You can also learn more about metabolic health and mental illness from the book 'Brain Energy' by Dr. Christopher Palmer - brainenergy.com/
You can find more about my keto coach Nicole Laurent and her work on her website:
www.mentalhealthketo.com/
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@@Ggeezuzzshe is not mentally well - what do you expect? 😅
Please stop trying to act like a doctor ! These videos need to stop
It's nice to see you doing so well. I'm very happy for you and your family.😊
Thank you, Lauren, for mentioning how important electrolyte balance can be on a keto diet and for mentioning what supplements you are currently taking. That is a big help to me!
This has been really helpful. I have that pill box and yes it is really helpful. Thanks Lauren xx
You’ve inspired me to finally be consistent with keto to overcome my own schizophrenia. Thank you
You can do it!!! Don't let this illness define you ! Take back your life. I really am happy to hear of someone who can see through all the fog of mental illness. I wish you the best and please keep us updated 💪👍😊
I think the fact that you're on here commenting in a completely intelligent way means you've already overcome your schizophrenia.
@@TammiJayneBodenham not yet :) schizophrenia can be a feeling that comes from lack of feeling. If that makes sense. Still not there yet but the lights and colours of life definitely coming back on :)
Way to go!
Hey Lauren, I’m so glad that this is working for you. It’s a joy to watch you thrive.
We cannot show your videos not even the older videos on our unit anymore. 😢
I still love you and what you do!
Wow, that’s interesting to know. Do you work in a psychiatric setting? And did you receive an explanation as to why the videos can no longer be shown? Just curious, if you’re willing to share.
@@80islandia I was scared I was going to get yelled at on here! Thank you. I am a PMHNP in the southwest. We were told it’s a policy change. Like it happens with movies and tv shows but never similar to this. Hospitals are always paranoid. I will try to get some clarification on my next shift if it is only her or if it is across the board with online help shows like this one. We do show Living Well With Schizophrenia’s videos when we have more patients who can benefits from them. I assume not anymore. I was worried about her ketogenic journey at first but not anymore after watching the videos again. Personally, I feel as if we are not being allowed to help our patients to the fullest extent anymore. Honestly, I’m ready to retire. Sorry. I had to rant a little.
@@OldieNursieLadie I appreciate your transparency. Thank you for sharing this information, for being here, and for your willingness to keep an open mind. I can understand the retirement readiness :)
Thank you so much for all the information you provide, and showing your journey. It’s great to hear that you’re constantly improving, this gives a lot of hope to many people who have to deal with mental illnesses.
Thank you again and wish that everything goes well for you.
be very careful with probiotics. Dr. Palmer has talked about 2 patients he's aware of who were very stable on ketogenic diet, started taking a probiotic, and psychotic symptoms came roaring back. Goes to show the strong gut-brain connection and the microbiome being a pivotal player in that. There have also been studies in seizure models of mice showing that if they have one mouse group with a ketogenic diet, and then another that is not - if they put the microbiome of the keto mouse into the normal mouse, they gain seizure control even without the diet.
As per your supplements - methlyfolate could be incredibly important - look at Carrie Brown's mental health story, she was mentally ill with bipolar and methylfolate was pretty much all she needed to get her brain back. I prefer to get it in whole food form - beef liver.
Sarcosine I haven't heard of, but egg yolks seem to be a robust source. Egg yolks also contain high amounts of choline which is great for the brain.
Gingko - meh. No opinion
Omega 3 - for sure! For multiple reasons you should get a good amount of omega 3. I highly recommend the omegaquant omega3 test which shows your blood% of omega3. If it's under 8% you should be supplementing. The Japanese society averages around 8% omega3 - Americans under 4%.
Some supplements I'm very curious about
Urolithin A - Derived from pomegranate juice it is useful for mitochondria
Methlyne Blue - Very strange supplement but some evidence it aids mitochondria
coq10 - very high in heart muscle in beef and lamb, known to aid mitochondria
alpha lipoic acid - found in beef and beets
PQQ - found in fermented foods
Overall I would prefer to find these things in food but there is some interesting research going on
Thanks for the added info!
I had to stop an OTC probiotic recently because my racing thoughts and anxiety were outer limits for weeks! I have a 2+ year history toggling meds, which I'm now off, with various probiotics while working with both a nutritionist and psychiatrist. I personally decided to get back on the probiotic while tapering the meds, and so I thought perhaps it was med withdrawal. Nope! It was the probiotic. Within days I went back to normal, and haven't slid into those weird thought patterns since. I'm sticking with one spoonful of greek yogurt a day instead, which feels amazing.
She has no idea if she had a methylation problem.
Methylene blue is the precursor to typical antipsychotics, chlorpromazine was derived directly from it. I don't think it's likely to be any better. Another Victorian dye, summer blue is the precursor of most antidepressants.
Also be VERY careful taking Probiotics if you are being treated for high blood pressure
Good for you for being so proactive with your health!❤
You're doing great! I'm so happy for you!!! I intend to buy the pill case after I move this week!!! Thanks for the heads up!
Thank you for the supplements info, Lauren. I’m so so happy for you that this has helped you. It’s amazing. I’d love someone in my life to get the support & treatment you’ve had. Be grateful for any guidance for finding the right team. Thank you.
I definitely take advantage of the daily pill boxes and have since I began treatment for my bipolar 2 disorder. I make up 2 weeks worth at a time and it leaves less room for error in taking them this way (I'm on a cocktail of psych meds). Very smart of you to take the initiative
Proud of you. 🙆
@@TammiJayneBodenham thank you, dear! I've been doing this for 9 years now and really appreciate the kind words.
So happy you are doing so well and building such a full and happy life. God bless you and Rob and the children.💜☮✝☮💜
This is very helpful and affirming. Our daughter with the same diagnosis is on the same supplements but adding the electrolytes is helpful becauae we werent doing it! Thank you!
What are you using for glycine? I see that the Organika brand is Canada only and isn't on Amazon either and I am in the US. The video mentions that it is in a collagen peptide formula, which I believe means that the "free form" type which I found isn't the right one.
Hi Lauren. I've been following you for a while and I just experienced something that I thought would be a great show! I went to Amen Clinics and had a SPECT scan on my brain. It's founded by Dr Daniel Amen, a psychiatrist. He does go on podcasts like yours. He also invites people who are public and have mental illness to be on his youtube channel. I think a show on SPECT scans would be helpful to a lot of people! I won't share links so my comment posts, but I just read this just now, "If you’re struggling with mental health issues or memory loss that isn’t responding to standard treatments, it’s time to consider brain imaging. Based on costs, availability in the psychiatric clinical setting, reliability, comfort, convenience, and research, brain SPECT imaging checks the most boxes." It's fascinating and a new development in psychiatry. Dr Amen says often, "Psychiatry remains the only medical specialty that rarely looks at the organ it treats-the brain." Sorry this is so long and sounds like a commercial but one more quote of interest, "n 2021, the Canadian Association of Nuclear Medicine (CANM) unanimously adopted new procedure guidelines for SPECT imaging for psychiatry and neurology. CANM endorsed brain SPECT imaging for the evaluation of several common conditions that impact millions of individuals, such as: Neuropsychiatric disorders: ADHD, bipolar disorder, clinical depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)" Soo... if you are interested he did a TED Talk and lots of other talks so you can search him out here on youtube. All the best wishes as always, Mary Michelle
Dr. Amen is amazing! Definitely worth looking into!
You are a pioneer and brave person. May you be blessed on your journey.
While I haven't made any major changes, I've increased my protein intake, fluid consumption, and use of essential oils through balms and inhalation for anxiety. I also regularly drink cocoa and eat dark chocolate, and I exercise regularly. I've seen drastic and massive improvements in how I feel, my cognition, self-confidence, and ability to be more clear-minded, and I feel less depressed. Each person has their own preferences, but I particularly feel satiated and full when I eat omega-3s from salmon fish or consume fish oil. These lifestyle changes and product consumption help me manage myself effectively and what works for you may not work me and what works for both of us, may not work for others, but fundamentals and essentials are important but again, an individual has their own personal preferences, I'm glad you put up this video, happy to see you again.
You look way more healthy and way more present and aware than any previous video I have seen the past couple of years. So so happy for you.
❤good for you, sweet girl!❤ you're awesome and inspirational for all of us❤
Have you looked into TAURINE? My diagnosis is also schizoaffective bipolar type, and I was taking a small dose of Thorazine as needed for breakthrough hypomania and anxiety (in addition to my daily AP). But since taking taurine for several weeks now, I no longer need Thorazine and feel very stable. Now I can consume caffeine and don't feel anxious or hypomanic. Lack of sleep also induced hypomania, but I no longer experience that anymore on taurine. Tried many supplements over the years, but taurine is the king of natural mood stabilisers, IMO.
Is there a list of these supplements anywhere here? Can't find one. Thank you again for this information! 🙂
I have found certain supplements helpful with medication side effects, and I see they work for Medical Keto side effects as well, thank you Lauren I think this is why my Keto diet attempt did not work a couple of years ago when I tried! It is still a big lifestyle change, but in the future I would try it again thanks to your positive experience!
There is a great article explaining the effects of fasting on human lipid metabolism, glucose metabolism, protein metabolism, and neuroendocrine metabolism; demonstrates the metabolic conversion caused by fasting; and describes the effects of fasting on human psychological health, the relationship between mood regulation and glucose, and the emotional enhancing effect induced by fasting. Have you considered fasting?
Great but she is getting really thin and has suffered from ED before so reason to be careful.
I take caffeinated pre work powder to combat all the negative effects of the medication, especially the low energy I have. I’ve been taking salts, potassium & magnesium for 2 years now, doing OMAD/ intermittent fasting…… I’ve lost a lot of the weight the medication had me put on, as of recently I’m getting more confident to leave my house and go for walks & runs…. Not easy for me, with everything I’ve been thru and my mindset but I take it day by day, things are looking good!
Thank you for sharing this video for others to see, hopefully this reaches someone who needs to hear this. Well informed and articulated well.
Thank you for sharing with us Lauren! You are a true pioneer and introduced me to this great therapy and the amazing people.. including MetabolicMind Dr.Palmer and Dr.Ede. I do not have bipolar or schizophrenia however I have a high level of anxiety and I really appreciate you and your content! Thank you and have a Blessed Day 🙏
Also wanted to ask about the cost of your supplements as part of the diet. Is it included in your video about cost? Have you just been adding supplements as you go or did you just start when you started keto? I ran out of my supplements and need to buy more soon. But first, I'll ask my psychiatrist which ones since I'm on Invega.
Hello, nice to see you again.
Have you tried Polish smalec as a part of keto diet? If you cook it right it's unmatched in its taste. You could try it for meals that needs lot of fat.
i've found ashwagandha to be a tricky supplement that shouldn't be taken by everyone just willy-nilly. there seems to be a glutamatergic conponent to its effects.
It doesn’t agree with me and I can’t take it.
You forgot to mention how much your supps cost. Thanks for sharing which ones you’re taking though. It was another interesting video!
Right too bad medical insurance doesn’t pay for all this
Schizo-affective myself here. Her research has encouraged me to look into the keto diet. Tbh im not even as strict as others with it, nor do i check ketones but i feel much better with my new regime than solely on the antipsys & carb-filled, gluten-filled diet. I rarely get positive symptoms anymore, & for me that is a huge relief. I also take a daily multivitamin as well as L-Glutamine. Our systems are all unique & through trial and error u can find out what combination works best for u. Also proper rest & excercise should be a given.
Thank you Lauren for being so transparent with your journey ❤
I have no doubt that you are helping so many people in so many ways! ❤
I have an off topic question if it is okay.. I noticed that you are wearing a whoop wearable device, and I am considering getting one because I want to heal and care for my metabolic health... I have heard that tracking your HRV is important for this.
Would you recommend the whoop watch and membership? How do you feel about it's accuracy?
Thank you again for all that you do. And for anytl information you can give on this subject.
Lindsay Haskins
In terms of electrolytes, do you recommend those brands for any specific reason?
Also been wondering, what's your anxiety like on keto? What was it like before? Are there any mental health issues you feel could be better on keto so far? Or do you feel ithe diet has been really sufficient in alleviating all that?
Love you
Keep going
Do you think this supplements alongside with keto diet can be effective with very resistant depression, general anxiety? I take antidepressants alongside with eftil and actawel, 12 pils dayly, my concern is, my very fatty liver.. Sorry for my poor English, maybe I mystype something,cose I have tremor in my arms..
For folks on an extended health plans (outside of provincial health plans) who have drug coverages, do you see that someday those same health plans could cover the costs of the keto diet and/or supplementation?
We tried all the supplements. The best one by a long shot was lithium orotate. My wife and I thought she was a lithium non-responder, but she had originally been prescribed it during a melancholia that had progressed to a catatonic stupor. By chance the stupor was lifted by benzos, and later on during a hypomanic episode she started taking lithium orotate and it was the first time prior to keto that anything had a real effect on the disease.
Anything with antidepressant properties such as ashwaganda seemed to just increase rapid cycling and cause agitation.
Glad it works for her! I get rashes from lithium in any form but it's known to work very well for some. I take a low dose of an antidepressant to help the depression side and a high dose of an antipsychotic to keep me "down" but without those two I was miserable. (I'm bipolar type 2 with psychotic features) It's a balancing act and along with my mood stabilizers, I've been able to lead a pretty normal life after years of trying different types of meds. I'm on year 9 since my diagnosis and no hypomania in over 7 years.
Disclaimer- I'm just a patient and not educated enough to give any advice- just sharing my personal experience in hopes people realize that living with this disorder is manageable for some with medication. Diet and supplements never worked for me but I'll never knock someone's journey to get better with using a different route than I do. Everyone is different and there are so many things out there! Thank you for sharing.
@@evilm3274 That combination has become very popular in the United states. I think the evidence is against the practice, antidepressants are destabilizing and antipsychotics generally make the problem worse in the long term. The studies that lead to their approval involve a process called "enrichment" this is where the drug company runs elimination trials to weed out all the people who don't respond or get worse. When they finally have enough people left who can tolerate the drug they publish those results and leave the previous trials unpublished. They then show the data from the final trial to FDA. Other things they do is run the trials in developing nations known for corruption and bribery, pay high profile doctors to put their names on papers they never wrote, code suicides as benign trial dropouts and the list goes on. The reason I trust lithium is that it is unpatentable, a threat to their profits and has still out done everything else in RCTs.
Listen, the truth is out there and it's not on the internet, it's in history books. Go and read the work of doctors from before the pharmaceutical industry took over. Read about who discovered these drugs, where they came from, what nurses and doctors observed when they were first invented. The amount of information offline is staggering. Don't be sure if anything until you know the full history of these drugs. There are whole classes of medications that most people have never even heard of. You might think you tried hundreds of medications but most medications are just slight tweaks to get a new patent.
Both antidepressants and antipsychotics come from blue dyes that were first used to treat malaria, then used as antihistamines, the antihypertensives, then tranquillisers and then finally rebranded with the very dubious titles of "antidepressant" and "antipsychotic". I'm not saying they don't work, you've clearly seen a benefit but there is just so much more to their story and many reasons to be careful using them long term.
I notice that you are taking Potassium Citrate. Any thoughts on taking Potassium Citrate vs Potassium Chloride? I know that Potassium Citrate can help reduce the risk of kidney stones which are a risk on the Keto diet. But, the Keto electrolyte supplement I use has Potassium Chloride?
Thank you, once again, for your great video 😊. I also have schizoaffective disorder, and I notice that when I take supplements, it seems to increase my psychotic symptoms. I’m currently just taking vitamin D3 and omega-3 fish oil. I started to have an uptick in psychotic symptoms, but this time I just pushed through it, and I’m doing better with it after about one month. Have you experienced this at all? Or is anyone reading this comment experiencing this? Thank you in advance for your response 😊
Wonderful thank you. I have taken down all your suggestions and will see if I can find dietitian help here in Sydney Australia. We have a therapy team for my son. He would benefit greatly from a KETO mental health diet. He is skinny and on many high doses of antipsychotics. I think this will build up his basic health... hoping slowly to get him to walk outside, to be able to interact with the things he loves. Like reading, music and his friends. Even TV mobile or computer, which he has to avoid. I have ordered my first batch of three Sibio sensors. I have been watching you through your journey. You have helped me be a better 'carer' and mum to my son. Most of all, you have given me H O P E ❤
Thankyou.
Really cool supplement/pill container! I've been struggling to manage without something like that. And I love what you shared in the video. I am on similar supplements for keto but the last ones you shared that could be confounding variables are really interesting and I'm curious to explore. Are you tapering off your medicine to see how low you can go/get off completely as the end goal? It's all so encouraging.
She said in one of her other videos that she did not intend to even consider tapering her medication until 6 months in. Her stated goal is to improve functioning & stability in general, and hence quality of life. While being able to go completely off of antipsychotic medication would be a wonderful outcome, that is not the focus or purpose of this experiment.
However, using medical keto led to something called overpotentiation (sometimes just called "drug potentiation", though not quite the same thing). Meaning, the concentration/strength of her antipsychotic medication(s) was made too strong, as if she had suddenly increased her dose by a major amount, even though the amount she was taking hadn't actually changed.
For that reason, she saw her psychiatrist and was given the "go-ahead" and specific directions for tapering medication and monitoring symptoms (she has also been closely monitored by her entire care team for this entire time anyway, including her psychiatrist), as the negative effects of doing nothing to address the overpotentiation outweighed the risk. (in terms of both quality of life and medical complications)
Overpotentiation is not exclusive to medical keto at all; it is a well known hazard that doctors have to consider when a person is taking multiple medications (or even supplements), because drug interactions can cause it.
I hope this is helpful/clarifying to you! (I am not a doctor, and I am just relaying what I have understood from closely following Lauren's medical metabolic interventions project, with the addition of some quick Google searches to make sure I am using the definitions of words correctly.)
Thank you for all that information! I've been following along as well and remember what she said about waiting 6 months to taper; however, in this video she said that she is tapering her medication, so going lower I assume and I thought recently she said she was on her lowest dose to manage her symptoms of 60mg instead of maybe 100 but maybe she is tapering again. @@loricat5606
Electrolytes are so important and underrated. I have the same potassium and mag on my nightstand. If it starts hurting your stomache you can do foot soaks for a couple minutes when you need it instead. Epsom salts for mag, nosalt powder for potassium. Note the can prev gentle is cut with mag oxide while the ultra gentle is just bisglycinate so that might be easier on digestion as well.
Two more things to note. Boron is magnesium sparing. I take a lot less magnesium after taking boron only a few times.
As well high magnesium intake can also cause you to need more potassium. So if you start needing more that can be a factor. Zinc, b12 and other things also create potassium need. Welcome to the electrolyte treadmill. Part of the healing process for so many conditions.
You might need vit k to balance out the vit d. If your sleep goes off think about vit k.
Bisglycinate forms give you some glycine as well which is helpful.
And vit d can increase your need for magnesium. Which is fine but something to watch out for. Mag bisglycinate is good for this.
Thank u
Ashwagandha is shit. Had it, got pain on my liver. Was a reputable brain. I take most other stuff you mentioned. Can highly recommend taking supplements when having mental health problems, even without keto. Have you though of getting Methyl folate and methylcobalamin? I take K2 aswell. K2, magnesium, selenium and above mentioned methyl vitamines made most of my headache disappear. Have others aswell. I take a lot.
Niacin!! It’s a miracle. I do a massive massive dose but now I’m on a minimal dose of meds because of it.
Great
What’s with the rapid blinking??
I love keto
:) also hows ur kids i think I’m ready to have kids omg I’m ready !!!!! Ur kids are so cute n adorable ur so smart love you😊. Keto bread with blue berries and cool i take pils 3 times a day love that 😂pill case thanks 😊❤
Not niacin in high doses? Why not? Abram Hofer spoke about it years ago. Bless u.
Do you think supplementing your diet instead of a balanced diet is a good idea
BABY, YOU LOOK HAPPIER! 😀🥰
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Thanks!
My doctor told me about omega 3 and how good it is for the brain. Especially with schizoaffective disorder. However, he told me to stay away from gingko biloba. I am not sure why. I'll ask him about lion's mane and ashwaganda.
Yes. Sisteeist
Good stack. Regarding Ashwaganda, I'm minimizing any 'herbs' and spices because they often come from polluted places
12:05 🙏❤️
Probiotics=good gut health = good healthy body.
Try kimchi, anything pickled
Have you had issues with weight gain with psych meds? KETO diet sounds good but all these additional supplements needed makes me question weather this is a good idea.
The supplements are meant to optimize your health while on this diet, or otherwise as well. As Nicole said in this video, it's very hard to get enough of all the nutrients you need from ANY diet, and supplementation can always be helpful.
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Hear me out please. I am only bringing this up because she has talked about it in her older vids. Because you have a history of an eating disorder could you be falling back into that realm?
The most important realm she is falling back into is wanting to get off all her meds. Old videos and comments do point to some sort of ED which isn’t uncommon with those who suffer from mental illnesses since ED is a mental illness, too. She doesn’t address this as a problem this time around but looking back a few years or even a year ago there is a noticeable difference in her face and arms. She is looking quite thin. But to answer your question she has stated it’s not a worry.
@@veronicaw8390 thanks I’ll keep watching!
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I think some of these people are mistaking these videos as selling a diet as an alternative to professional medical care for treating psychological disorder. You may want to clarify that when treating illnesses like schizophrenia that professional medical care is necessary.
It will be that soon… larger audience as a health and wellness channel and soon it’ll be about “slaying” and “what I eat in a day.” 😂
No man or woman should ever take anti psychotics.
You should look into the “GAPS” & “No Plants GAPS” to take your healing to another level. Dr Natasha Campbell McBride
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Are we not supposed to share links in the comments? Thx
RUclips tends to filter out and delete comments with links 😭
Why all of the negative and hurtful comments? I was skeptical of the diet at first, then learned there is proven scientific evidence that the Medical Keto Diet can put those of us with mental illness in remission. Not all, but many lives are changed for the better.
Her theory also doesn't make room for schizoaffective depressive type or MDD.
Sorry I don't wrap my head around keto
It's not for everyone. Best thing my wife and I have ever done for out health though. We'll be eating low carb for the rest of our live I suspect just like our forefathers/foremothers did.
You shouldn’t have to supplement if your so perfect, just adjust the diet accordingly
Why so many supplements if your extensive diet is going so well?
This makes living with schizoaffective disorder feel way more unmanageable…
Not necessarily. I manage my schizoaffective disorder with lithium alone. Plus plenty of therapy of course.
@@audreybell2878you don’t have psychotic features on lithium alone?
@@audreybell2878 this woman is on medication, therapy, a very strict diet, and about ten supplements…
Lauren are you ok ? I feel she is off or is it just me? Is she in psychosis not judging but she keeps talking about keto I liked her older videos.
More power to you but I don't believe in the keto diet or supplements.
Check medical medium's mental health protocols. He also shares a lot of criticism about keto diet.. too much fat can not be good for the overburdened livers we all have..
@@marijasamardjioska7051that's odd, everyone I know that has gone on a whole food keto diet has improved their "overburdened" liver. My liver for example was overburdened but since starting eating ketogenic diet almost 5 years ago, it's just fine. Kidney function is also much better. Blood pressure has dropped significantly so I am assuming my heart also doesn't have to work as hard anymore. The anti-keto folks confuse me, when its quite obvious we must have been in a state of ketosis for the vast majority of our evolution over millions of years. Many carbs were simply not available for the majority of the year where humans evolved. I question the intelligence of anyone that is anti-keto.
Creatine supplementation could be a cure all in itself. Now that you've added all these nutritional supplements, how do we know it's medical keto that is the cause of wellness and not something else?
Great point. Dr. Mercola I think I have the name right was a big proponent of keto and is an author. Many of his patients required carbs and sugars and did horrible on keto. He is no longer a big proponent of keto. All the keto followers were quite angry with him for finding and reporting medical findings. Makes me think it’s all business like Big Pharma.
Says someone who has clearly never been in ketosis 😂
@@Bridenal I fast so I'm in ketosis a lot. (After 12 hours of fasting your body goes into ketosis which is simply using fat for fuel which is why keto diet is used primarily for weight loss.) You're basically just starving yourself probably. That's how you get into ketosis. In fact it would probably be better on medical keto if you don't exercise because you need to have fuel to keep yourself in ketosis. If you have no fat and only muscle how will you maintain ketosis. 🤔 So a lot of people fast or go hungry in the world: so everyone on the planet has probably been in ketosis at one time or another: so your unnecessary remark is silly at best.
She almost went psychotic when she briefly fell out of ketosis, so there's that. Go back a couple of episodes when she talks about it. Her supplements clearly weren't enough by themselves.
The Carnivore diet has been shown to help with mental issues as well… for those out there that would be more on board with eliminating all the plants … some have some amazing results with being able to
Feel more mentally stable and some even get off all the medications…. You don’t have to do it forever even 30 days can give you a glimpse into what may help you feel better … side note I’m not on any psych meds and I do not have bipolar/ schizophrenia disorder…I do experience anxiety and am trying to keep it away as much as possible.
dont drink coffee when coming off meds, it can be dangerous
My God...what an absolutely gorgeous lady.
You must have angered Big Pharma judging by the hate
When she talks about actually, well, living with schizophrenia and not all of her theories I actually do enjoy the content.
She’s way too glossy.
I mean, swapping out psych meds for handfuls of supplements and electrolytes because the diet so profoundly messes up the way your body works. That makes sense.😂
don't believe she has schizoaffective. My thoughts: She seems like the type who probably struggled with some mental health symptoms earlier in her life at some point and never looked back.
You sound like one of those doctors that tells a patient who was healed of their cancer that the cancer must have been a mis-diagnosis and that there never was any cancer in the first place. Thatr happens all the time in the world of oncology.
You don’t even know her…
I wouldn’t say your nutrition is great if you’re having to take all those supplements. If you were not able to take these supplements how effective would your ketogenic diet be?
Exactly what I was thinking. Also a diet low in fruits & veg just doesn’t seem right
I didn't care for her keto coach stating that she starts patients with the "assumption" of vitamin deficiencies. Guess work versus blood work?
Honestly don't know how you live with yourself anymore it's almost like you use this as a giant experiment but You've changed and I call bullshit to be honest. Very sad. Fucked up of you but irregardless bullshit. I believed you and now I feel foolish and let down. When you follow someone and connect for so long you feel entitled to be able to trust them. You should post an apology. Was it the money that changed you?
keto again?
Not again - still! ✌🏻
It's called Living well with schizophrenia. It's about prevention.
I'm doing the Bacon Avocado Cheeseburger diet with a nice cold Coca-Cola drink every time I eat. My doctors Dr.Boulshiet and Dr.Agent have recommended this diet and they keep track of my stress level through an NSA satellite and make me listen to white noise to help me concentrate on the things I do. It really works you should give it a try.
I think Lauren said she was doing this experiment for several months. It would be a shame to do it and not report on how its going. That would be like taking a new medication for an illness and then not letting us know if its working or not.
@@reinerschafer1708exactly!
she makes her husband do everything she does. Like same diet and go on runs with her in negative degree weather. He says he supports her but poor guy looks miserable.
I'm guessing you don't have a mate that supports you. I hope that changes for you.
They actually made a video about this. He’s doing the diet for himself too
When I start a diet my husband usually does the same. When I exercise it encourages him to exercise too. Canadians don’t stop living normally when the weather is cold.
Everything in plasticboxes, full of microplastics.. packing it in more plastic pill boxes - omg 😳🙄
This is ridiculous. Why to take all these supplements? Since you can eat well, eat well. Follow a balanced diet and that’s it. No need for confusion unless you get money from that.
Most people do whatever they can to reduce symptoms. I myself get low on b12 and I found a likelihood that it has thrown me into hypomania in the past. While this is not something I can directly link without there being really any studies on it, best believe after the 2 shots of b12 I needed (afterwards I was out of a hypomanic stage in a day with no changes to my meds) I started taking that as a supplement. What I'm trying to get across is that there just isn't enough research yet to know for sure. Even if diet restrictions just help you FEEL better- wouldn't YOU do it? (I don't take any other supplements but I can see why she does in conjunction with her other meds- even if it doesn't work it might still give her peace of mind)
@@evilm3274 Well said, and same here.
The commenter ( @tverve ) doesn't seem to understand that some people's bodies don't absorb nutrients properly, and have to take an increased amount as a result. There is a strong evidence base showing that brains with schizophrenia have problems with absorbing some nutrients. Antipsychotic medications (which Lauren is taking) and other types of medications are well known to cause higher rates of nutrient depletion.
It also appears that the commenter didn't watch much of the video either, since it's explained within the first ten minutes that "there is no perfect diet in which supplementation is not useful or helpful in any way shape or form" (and that is a well-known fact in the field of medicine, regardless of keto). It's also explained that bodies in ketosis don't absorb various nutrients in the same way as other bodies, and that keto ( ) restricts many foods that are essential for getting good amounts those nutrients - so no, it's impossible for someone to "just follow a balanced diet" to get what someone needs on an extreme medical intervention that messes with that process directly, @tverve.
I have severe recurring iron deficiency (anemia) of multiple types. My doctors have noted that even on specialized iron supplements, my body does not absorb iron properly. As far as anyone can tell, I will have to take increased amounts of iron of specialized types for the rest of my life. The amount I am currently taking, as prescribed by my doctor, would be dangerous for the average person. It is not possible for me to get this amount (especially of the specific types of iron I need) through food, @tverve . I would die from iron deficiency. I have also been instructed by my doctor to take a specific high amount of vitamin C (this is also a supplement), since that plays a role in the absorption of iron, and we are currently monitoring my body's response. I have also been shown as low in other nutrients, through extensive blood tests, and I have been instructed by my doctor to take various supplements for that too (with these other deficiencies I be able to address it with food, but I have been told by my doctor to focus on regulating my iron levels and becoming stable in my health before even attempting that).
@tverve , your ignorance is dangerous (or as you might say, ridiculous).
She is sharing HER experience… go watch another channel if you have issues with what someone puts in their mouth. No disrespect
Did you watch the video? It clearly explains why supplementation is beneficial for her.
@@user-ik4jj5js7g You don’t get to tell me what to do. This is my constructive opinion about this misleading content. And yes, there is disrespect, so be careful.
I’m so over this keto stuff that she won’t even do long term. Just another phase. Sigh
I couldn't disagree more. What an arrogant condescending comment.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31192814/
Define "keto stuff"
Rude
Normal people don’t click on videos they don’t like
What kind of characters do you see? Is it people you know personally