A few things I’d like to clarify as I know the timeline is confusing. We know the CDC discovered the virus in April 2010, as Dr. Jenner is quoted in season 1 as saying, “It's Day 194 since Wildfire was declared, and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global”. We know monument day was august 27th, as confirmed by AMC in a social media post in 2023 The tales of twd episode “Blair/ Gina” also confirms the fall began on a Friday, which matches up as August 27th in our real world calendar. Using the day and night cycle from episodes 1-3 of Fear season 1, we can determine what events were occurring on which days leading up to monument day.
Well, since we know wildfire is airborne, this leaves one of two situations. Either they discovered it and it wasn’t capable of airborne transmission, or it started off being airborne, but gradually mutated to adapt quicker and quicker to the human body. This means that there were walkers, but very rare and not identifiable, until a sizable amount of the population was infected, and the base mortality rate began to majorly become walkers, which is when the pandemic was declared
We NEED a full Day 0/Day 1 to Day/Year 10/11 of the show/s TWD/FEAR/WB/ Etc. I've tried to put the full complete Day to day timeline together but it's just so confusing. If anyone else can layout the timeline. By. All. Means. PLEASE
The creators need to make a dedicated series on the fall of society and operation cobalt from the police and military perspective. Ftwd season 1 wasn't enough.
Unfortunately I'm doubtful that we'll get such an explanation, The creator of The Walking Dead Robert Kirkman has stated numerous times that he's not interested in truly explaining the reasons as to how the outbreak actually got started, He said that he feels like it would ruin the narrative and that the shows and comics are more about surviving the collapse and adapting, Rather than explaining why it happened in the first place.
Season 1 wasn't fair, either. The military wouldn't have been set up like that, even if it was just the Army National Guard. They should've had lookouts on roofs and upper floors of buildings in every direction from the lock-down, plus road barriers, so that horde from the stadium shouldn't have been as viable a weapon as it was in the show.
This is always my favorite part of any zombie story. Watching society collapse is always more interesting to me than seeing a bunch of randos wander around in the forest for five years.
Agreed, the opening scenes from Dawn Of The Dead (2004) and World War Z are my favourite parts of any zombie film. Someone needs to do a Hardcore Henry/Cloverfield style film where it's literally just two hours of watching the character try to survive the initial outbreak.
@@GojiraBiscuits. Seoul Station, the prequel to Train to Busan, is basically this. It's animated and *extremely* bleak, especially compared to the other movies, but it's pretty good. "Outbreak" in Resident Evil: Outbreak is about an hour long mission set during the Raccoon City Outbreak's opening hours, and the original Resident Evil 3 also has that if you're into games. I'm writing a couple stories myself that are set within the beginning of the apocalypse (one takes place over the course of a weekend, while the other is over a few weeks). I wish there was more out there, though. Also nice to see another Godzilla fan.
There was an interesting series by the BBC called ‘In the Flesh’ depicting a world where the apocalypse has been prevented. Society is dealing with what happened and the status quo is returning. Zombies are treated with medication, militias are just starting to disband… but there are a lot of consequences. Discrimination, widespread PTSD across society (the risen also have this as the cure repairs their brain and they remember what they did), militia members have a hard time readjusting back to civilian life… Great series that really explores a forgotten side of the apocalypse, the “victory”.
@@EvgeneXI..Yep, there's always at least 1 Soyuz spacecraft docked in the ISS to serve as a Lifeboat and also a way to alter the orbital height of the ISS
I find that scene (Along with many others) interesting because it shows how even such people that had access to information like that LAPD cop still didn't realize and comprehend just how LONG and how BAD things would get, So he thought that such quantities of water (And presumably other goods) for him and his family would tide him over, Not realizing that 18-20+ years later in shows like Dead City and The Ones Who Live society is still suffering from the affects of Monument Day. I would assume that particular cop in general might've survived a while (And especially longer than his colleagues) since I believe he either left L.A shortly after this or holed up in his house.
@@BlitzinMackGaming Of course it is, But it's better to prepare for a disaster/collapse long before it happens. In the case of water there are many better solutions when you prep before stuff starts to hit the fan, Instead of simply hurriedly tossing cases of water into your trunk you should have and know how to install and operate a shallow well or (If you have the money) a deep well that is powered. And if you want to be creative then set up a system for rainwater collection and that way (Alongside the cases of water) you have something that is ready for the long haul. If you don't have the money or the space then set aside a space for both water and food (And other such essentials), You can buy blue plastic containers in all different shapes and sizes. Buy one of those and rotate it out every so often whilst having a well or rainwater collection system as a main goal to work towards. It may all sound more difficult and extreme than simply buying cases of water but the goal is something that can be used in the long-term
Yes. Great scene. I love the one where maddy and travis are driving to the church. Someone, in shadow, in a large hat is sort of lurching along and maddy looks at them as they go by.... are they or aren't they?
@@FrederickTheAnon14W I mean I guess, but I'm definitely not prepared right now if what happened in The walking Dead happened in the real world. It's such an incredibly small chance for an extinction level event to happen in your lifetime. And your average police officer isn't going to have information about that way in advance. Basically you're saying everyone on earth should always be ready, but if that was the case there wouldn't be anywhere near enough supply to make that happen. Simply isn't possible. Any person that would prepare on that level for something like that is going to be known by everybody as the crazy end of the world guy. And if shit actually does end up happening, guess where all the desperate people are going to go first? To the crazy end of the world guy.
@@imepic434 Honestly I don’t blame her for thinking they’d warn the people about the wildfire virus, especially considering how the kid described it, but it’s safe to say that once she saw the Principal infected that she probably realized it was already to late.
I still think that if the government acted enough to inform everyone how the infection works, the public and even local police forces and ambulance staff knowing this would allow them to prevent reanimation
seeing how the government reacted to covid on a local and national level compared to other states makes me imagine we'd be doomed either way. I'm sure there'd also be like a hundred sigma male influencers who would run into hordes to prove its just a government psyop or something.
It wasn’t curable so they didn’t know. Even if they said anything, the virus was going to spread one way or another. Everyone who was sick was infected, and especially at hospitals
They knew, they were using air pistols to “humanely dispatch” the infected/dead. However, by that time, it was too late. Operation cobalt was enacted, and the collapse of society followed soon thereafter.
I wish that they did Fear the Walking Dead as an anthology like American Horror Story. Each season could have shown different cities at the lead up to Monument Day. First season LA but then they could have done Washington, Chicago, London, etc. That first season of Fear was excellent. And it was so scary at times as people started figuring things out.
Flooding: school still open. Tornado: school still open. Zombie apocalypse: school still open. End of the world: math teacher still turns up to school.
Monument Day is the main reason I appreciate Fear the walking dead season 1. Since we got to see the early starts of the outbreak forming. I feel like the Government could have better informed the people if they took it way more seriously. Considering how fast the virus spread, it could be a little more prep time if people knew which could have saved more lives. I like how we still get some mentions of this day even now in the shows. That tells you how important this day was. I definitely feel for the astronaut because he literally had no way to get back home in space.
he's probably the luckiest person in the whole walking dead universe it's because he's the only one that didn't see someone get bit or eaten or hear the agonizing scream of someone getting eaten
@@susanoo3695would also technically mean he wouldn't be infected. The transmission was via an airborne pathogen. If he was up in space when it happened, then he wouldn't need to worry about coming back when he runs out of supplies.
Honestly, even if Kirkman never explains the origin of the virus I would love to see a true prequel series set roughly a year or so before the CDC discovered wildfire, with the show ending around the time Shane and Lori escape Atlanta.
I would *love* to see a walking dead series with 3-4 seasons that show Monument Day from the POV of 3-4 different major cities/scenarios. It would awesome to see Detroit, Chicago, Annapolis, a city thats not really big in movies. Throw in some rural Kansas for a change of pace
I would love to see that too!! But have each season be a different city from another country like the UK, Germany, China, Russia, Italy, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. If they did do that the first season should be in The United States and these should be the cities it should take place in NYC, Philly, Chicago, Denver, SLC, Detroit, Dallas, St. Louis, Miami, Seattle, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, and Nashville.
@@wyattjohnson1160..To add Americans to the mix, we can add Embassy workers too. (Like the character of Sam from the Metro series of games, he was from the Marine Security Guard, folks that guard US Embassies overseas)
@@tommyg9719 It's an interesting thought, but even if they don't have any sort of direct encounter with a walker they'll still realize somethings up when they go into town and theres no more food on the shelves because of the lack of US industry. globalization is a thing, a scary thing.. When the world falls, even the most isolated places will feel the effect.
A couple of things: 1) when Hurricane Katrina hit, you saw mass chaos, police abandoned their posts left and right stealing cars to get out of the area- hospitals were over run as doctors and nurses fled, people were left to fend for themselves in the immediate aftermath. 2) I'm a federal worker- in the weeks before the Covid pandemic hit and everything closed down, we started getting odd/confusing e mails from the powers that be, some would one thing then another would arrive saying the opposite - then on that day in March, we came to work, only to be told to take your computer and go home as government buildings were closing down- then everything else started to close down and all you would hear was reports from hospitals about the growing sickness and how people were dying- and then- ALL THE TOILET PAPER IN THE COUNTRY DISSAPEARED! People really started getting scared -- it was all like living in some sci fi or horror movie
It doesn't take much to cause chaos in a society that's already fractious and atomized. Pandemic wasn't planned or scripted, it's simply that people are predictably self concerned and extremely anxious in a situation where they don't know those around them and have to deal with something threatening. Of course, covid wasn't that bad, at least we managed. We don't even need Wildfire virus, viruses and bacteria from the past show just how bad things can be. And let's not even talk about 537 AD and the hell on earth for seven years that caused.
The same in the uk 🇬🇧 bog roll vanished overnight. It got to the point where you could only buy one of everything. So, people ended up going to multiple shops.
I feel like although the outbreak started in France, France seems to have been amongst the countries that handled the outbreak the best at least in terms of how their people fared, since the Pouvoir Du Vivant have reclaimed enough of France's territory to establish the sixth French Republic.
I felt let down by Fear of the Walking Dead in that Tobias was without doubt the smartest character in the show and he got very little time on it. His face when Madison says "the authorities would tell us if something was going on" is one of a guy who knows that history says otherwise. His grasp that canned goods needed to be grabbed, that getting whatever weapons one could find was a necessity, and that listening to the warning signs not avoiding them will keep one alive put him on the same level as Darryl and Merle in intellect and capability.
I think my fav part of any TWD realated thing is the face Tobias makes when Madison goes "The autorities would tell us", he's got that '"jesus christ you actually believe that" look of disbelief. I was so mad he wasn't an actual character in the series.
@@reg4211 He would have been great if they took more than 10 minutes to actually show "the fall of civilization". Missed oportunity, tbh that's how you can describe that series in a nuitshell "missed oportunity"
On the channel Kill Count, the host does AVP Requiem. The scene where the characters are debating going to the center of the town because of government broadcast, Darcy says, "The government wouldn't lie!" The Kill Count host is like "Oh Darcy."
Bro, I'm a walking dead fanatic. I watch tons of twd content creators. You, my friend, have the BEST content for me. This video, as you explained monument day, actually made me feel a sense of Irriness, good job
I used to think thew military was dumb for not being able to handle the threat of walkers even though the concept of zombies didn't exist in this universe. But after you explained how that fact fit into it I came around to not hating the military as much.
The problem I have with TWD, at least as far as the TV shows are concerned, is that the complete and utter chaos during those first few days is understandable. But when we see the military actually doing stuff they become completely incompetent in every way.
Interestingly in reality this couldn't hold up no more, at least for prolonged time. Someone would blow the whistle at some point, at least in democratic/western societies. At least on something as major and big as this.
Originally in the comics, Robert Kirkman made a one-shot comic with Rick and Shane exploring a crashed UFO in the middle of Georgia. When brought to light on a talking dead episode, Robert Kirkman confirmed that the Wildfire Virus was extraterrestrial and that the one-shot comic is the canon origin of the virus, not the one-shot comic itself that showed up in an invicible issue. But the origin is indeed extraterrestrial
6:37 World leaders knew about that one thing in 2020 in November of 2019. So them keeping a lid on it until figuring out a "plan for the public," seems to be very accurate.
I predicted Covid 19 when there was a news report of "Pneumonia outbreak" in China, that went from a few cases to 400 overnight. Months later the world shutdown.
Monument Day is by far the most interesting part of the Walking Dead and the show now over 10 years old has hardly fucking explored it. Fear the walking dead rushed it so quickly. All I want is a full season all about Monument Day it a few day before or after the outbreak there's so much you can show in this short time period for God Sakes it's a Gold mine.
We could even have perspectives from other countries too. The UK, Russia, and others. (TWD but with 28 Days Later kind of feels, anyone?) Or a perspective from Embassy workers in other countries seeing their home nation and the nation they're in fall apart. (Like the origin of Sam in the Metro series of games but Zombies)
Please keep exlorimg this type of stuff , all the pre-apocalyptic tuff and crm is like gold rn with the ones who live not giving us what we desire . Keep em coming
I would of really loved a mini series that was just about the slow progression of incidents leading up to the collapse. FTWD touched on it a bit, but i would love an even more in depth look.
Truly an excellent channel, best out there on the walking dead universe by a country mile. Definitely love a where are the military now video if there is any left excluding CRM.
That sounds like a decent video but ultimately in my opinion all of the videos about the military AFTER the Collapse/Monument Day sound pretty much the same, Since we have such little information to go on and the majority of it is just general speculation and theorizing about where they could possibly be, If they are even still around at all.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W I think the antagonist military in Daryl Dixon are just what's left of the french military considering they call themselves the 6th french republic
It has not yet been explained exactly how the virus spread so quickly in a short period of time (Assuming its discovery was in April 2010 and Monument Day on August 27/28, 2010), just 4 months... So I remembered something, between June and July 2010, there was the World Cup, that is, millions of people (some already infected), traveling to the same place, passing the virus to other people, who would take it to their countries of origin , to their families, work colleagues or school. An event like the World Cup would greatly accelerate the spread of the Virus.
Let's also not forget that the doctors and hospitals already knew that something was going on because they had (Presumably new) regulations when it came to dealing with people who coded (Died) where they would only briefly attempt to bring said people back with such things as defibrillators before taking them "Downstairs" afterwards, As seen in Fear Season 1 Episode 1 when Nick was in the hospital.
@@Swell-Films Thank you! It's also interesting to note that it seems that the Ambulance/EMT crews either didn't have the same protocols or weren't following them as in the highway scene the crash victim had been "Down" too long and the protocols would've told them not to risk interacting with the body after a certain period of time.
Tbh what makes The Walking Dead interesting is the virus itself and the initial collapse of society. They need to make a spinoff that focuses on this stuff. Like that movie in the 2010s called contagion but set it before collapse.
I also wish that we could've gotten an explanation as to what ultimately happened to Tobias, However I'm also glad that he didn't get the Morales treatment where he was brought back just for a few episodes and then killed off without any further explanation. One of the old showrunners for Fear stated that he considered Tobias to be alive after the collapse, However subsequent showrunners haven't stated this so his fate remains unknown and thus there's always a chance that he might be brought back at some point.
@onetallpheeesh they never talked about him after season 1 unless I missed something Madison said during the final season, he could be alive since the guy in daryl dixon says California has a huge settlement that's doing good
Brother. This is amazing. Man, if you did like a weekly video or a playlist on here with the timeline and what happens in this universe from a week to week or month to month basis? That would be the best thing for TWDU RUclips
There was a webisode called "Flight ###" ( i forget the number) where the virus showed up earliest. Nick witnessed this plane falling out of sky BEFORE his girlfriend turned into zombie in that church. An asian lady on plane noted she was already familiar with virus BEFORE outbreak on plane.
literally wasted potential to not having a series exploring monument day, its such a cool concept, the little things they've showed about it are some of the most interesting parts in my opinion, fucking criminal they haven't done much to explore it
The problem with FTWD is it quickly became TWD really fast. Hearing the broadcast in the back ground, seeing news reports, etc are way more terrifying than the post world. They should do a 2-3 episode spin off of the guy in space. Seeing his prospective.
i never finished twd or even ftwd but i love your videos as i was a major fan up until season 9 and seeing where the show went and the lore it has is really cool
I was always hopeful that we would see Tobias again in Fear The Walking Dead, but sadly Kirkman never got round to it, but now with fear finished and Madison back on the seen going back to Los Angeles, i now have high hopes .
The big mailbox thing being flipped at 5:11 is insane them things are bolted down and even if they weren’t they are heavy af. No idea why but I thought that was funny 😂
I think biting and/or scratching introduces the body to the virus in its active farm rather then the dormant form that doesn't activate until death. This causes the body to try and fight it like any other virus/bacteria hence symptoms like Fever, coughing, aches and pains etc. The dormant form of the virus probably also wakes up and makes the process faster. Theoretically there's is a incredibly and I mean next to impossible chance that someone could actually beat the virus someway, some how.
i just found this channel stopped watching walking dead after the negan arc couldnt keep up with it. how many variations or branches are their of this show i cant believe they went this deep with the lore this is amazing lol
Well if a virus like this happens in our world (it can’t) everyone would know what to do and society would likely not collapse. I find this really interesting I used to be scared of this series but I’ve grown used to it. Keep up the good work!!
I know they did fear but they should do like a series of like “The Walking Dead: day 1” And the episodes all saying like 3 weeks in and 2 months in or something like that. Seeing how it began in city’s like Chicago or Miami or in Colorado would be interesting I think. Seeing how people all across the world lived thru the beginning days of the apocalypse
In Ftwd the hospital staff that nick was in. The hospital staff new what happens when someone dies because they were putting dead bodies in the basement
I'd wanna see a series that's stories of day one survivors as they experience the outbreak day 1. Just each season goes to a different city or part of the world.
2:03 imagine the reaction o the main characters of walking dead find out about Primrose & they are the one who started all this. (The people surviving members of the team will be hunted down)
@@Swell-Films now here a question do you ever think you will do a video about the Atlanta Police officers in season 5? They saw the cobalt and seeing the military killing civilians.
@@Swell-Films perfect because they have a good backstory and this is the crazy part did they know about CDC exploding or Rick shooting down in the city plus we saw the hospital in season 2 episode 1
I was only in the 10th grade during these events. With a new dog and my mom's birthday is on August 26. As a former NYer at that time, I can say my family and I wouldn't have survived 😭
Because at this point the vast majority of people weren't even anywhere close to realizing what was going on. The information was out there but if their universe (Which seems to be very closely resembling ours) is anything like ours then such information was taken down and censored early on as "Conspiracy Theories" so only a few small sites and groups of people had this information during the collapse, And since the collapse took place over 2 days there wasn't a whole lot of time for this information to come to light to the general population before either the Internet (Along with the power) went down, Or they encountered the Wildfire Virus first hand. That's why the whole riot got started in the first place because the citizens weren't aware of the Wildfire Virus and just thought that the Police had killed an innocent homeless man. And you also gotta realize that in a riot with all kinds of chaos going on a lot of people aren't going to be paying attention because their attention span is going to either be nonexistent (Due to the stress of the riot) or entirely focused on something else, In this case either the Police (If you're a rioter) or the rioters (If you're the Police).
@odst8709 I guess? But like seeing ppl writhing on the ground might be a dead give away...also did they keep trying to eat ppl fully or just "bite, turn, move on to the next"
@@gajeel9798 Well, knowing that people in TWD universe had no concept of zombies as we do, they thought the police were shooting sick patients and that's the reason the riots began. In the chaos, the walker's senses were overwhelmed with so much sound and smell and yeah, they went from one victim to another, and people probably thought it was some street fight or whatever
@nevyanplamenov5409 oof interesting...tho cause naturally a virus would want to spread to as many hosts as possible but since everyone was infected already....I guess it was just "step 2: speed up process" also wonder if the dude in the ISS would turn when he eventually died...space zombies!!! Lol
I love your videos, but I just wanted to clarify Jims case was unique it did take him two days to turn but if you remember them going to the CDC later in the first season of The Walking Dead that Dr. Edwin Jenner‘s wife, her transformation took two hours and he had received reports that one had turned in as little as three minutes to support the three minute theory or a short reanimation theory after Rick killed Shane in season two episode 12 it took about maybe five minutes for Shane to come back it’s different for every vessel
Imagine being a police responding to a person who got hit by a truck or a bus and that person stood and trying to attack the others and you fired a round into the torso only for them to keep walking to bute or violently attack someone else and that person who got attacked to turn like them.
Just cause the CDC is giving up on curing it, doesn't mean I'd give up trying to survive. Realistically, any place that has a hot climate or a temperate climate getting hit during the height of summer would see the undead rotting away to bone within months. A corpse is a corpse so they'll rot until there's nothing left. Espesically out in the heat while not being embalmed.
I was disappointed in not getting enough of the fall of civilization from a larger view in this show but Fear in the end I though for the most part was well written and acted. There were times when I think Fear was much better than TWD was at the time. IDK if you TWD fans know but there are novels of TWD and they're really good. One series with about 9 books is about how the Governor became the Governor then it becomes Lilly Caul's series and it's a really fun exciting series. But then there's a standalone novel of the outbreak in China. With a white lady stuck in China trying to survive and such. Which made me want them to do a series outside the US badly and then we got it with Daryl Dixon and France. And hopefully maybe other countries like Spain or some UK countries. But a show that starts at the downfall and not after.
A few things I’d like to clarify as I know the timeline is confusing.
We know the CDC discovered the virus in April 2010, as Dr. Jenner is quoted in season 1 as saying,
“It's Day 194 since Wildfire was declared, and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global”.
We know monument day was august 27th, as confirmed by AMC in a social media post in 2023
The tales of twd episode “Blair/ Gina” also confirms the fall began on a Friday, which matches up as August 27th in our real world calendar.
Using the day and night cycle from episodes 1-3 of Fear season 1, we can determine what events were occurring on which days leading up to monument day.
Well, since we know wildfire is airborne, this leaves one of two situations. Either they discovered it and it wasn’t capable of airborne transmission, or it started off being airborne, but gradually mutated to adapt quicker and quicker to the human body. This means that there were walkers, but very rare and not identifiable, until a sizable amount of the population was infected, and the base mortality rate began to majorly become walkers, which is when the pandemic was declared
We NEED a full Day 0/Day 1 to Day/Year 10/11 of the show/s TWD/FEAR/WB/ Etc. I've tried to put the full complete Day to day timeline together but it's just so confusing. If anyone else can layout the timeline. By. All. Means. PLEASE
@@ItsBlueFusionYT I’d love to take that project on, but it’d be a behemoth between all 7 shows
What social media post by amc confirmed august 27th as monument day?? Pls send proof
@@Mickaye facebook.com/share/p/KFkDg7jEPx6fdpVZ/?mibextid=Cx5MWH
The creators need to make a dedicated series on the fall of society and operation cobalt from the police and military perspective. Ftwd season 1 wasn't enough.
Unfortunately I'm doubtful that we'll get such an explanation, The creator of The Walking Dead Robert Kirkman has stated numerous times that he's not interested in truly explaining the reasons as to how the outbreak actually got started, He said that he feels like it would ruin the narrative and that the shows and comics are more about surviving the collapse and adapting, Rather than explaining why it happened in the first place.
@@FrederickTheAnon14Wand I like that. Original stories are often such sullbhit
@@FrederickTheAnon14Wdang I would have liked how it all turned to hell at the start
Shameless plug but I’m trying to plan out a fanmade version of just that
Season 1 wasn't fair, either. The military wouldn't have been set up like that, even if it was just the Army National Guard. They should've had lookouts on roofs and upper floors of buildings in every direction from the lock-down, plus road barriers, so that horde from the stadium shouldn't have been as viable a weapon as it was in the show.
This is always my favorite part of any zombie story. Watching society collapse is always more interesting to me than seeing a bunch of randos wander around in the forest for five years.
Agreed, the opening scenes from Dawn Of The Dead (2004) and World War Z are my favourite parts of any zombie film.
Someone needs to do a Hardcore Henry/Cloverfield style film where it's literally just two hours of watching the character try to survive the initial outbreak.
@@GojiraBiscuits. Seoul Station, the prequel to Train to Busan, is basically this. It's animated and *extremely* bleak, especially compared to the other movies, but it's pretty good. "Outbreak" in Resident Evil: Outbreak is about an hour long mission set during the Raccoon City Outbreak's opening hours, and the original Resident Evil 3 also has that if you're into games.
I'm writing a couple stories myself that are set within the beginning of the apocalypse (one takes place over the course of a weekend, while the other is over a few weeks). I wish there was more out there, though.
Also nice to see another Godzilla fan.
There was an interesting series by the BBC called ‘In the Flesh’ depicting a world where the apocalypse has been prevented. Society is dealing with what happened and the status quo is returning.
Zombies are treated with medication, militias are just starting to disband… but there are a lot of consequences. Discrimination, widespread PTSD across society (the risen also have this as the cure repairs their brain and they remember what they did), militia members have a hard time readjusting back to civilian life…
Great series that really explores a forgotten side of the apocalypse, the “victory”.
To expensive to film
@@blueocean9758not really loon at LOTR scale with almost no CGI and then look at the budget of marvel films or the avatar films
The cosmonauts situation is easily the most horrifying position in the show.
Your stuck in the dark void as space
Only if they aren’t on the ISS. There’s pods on there to return the astronauts to Earth.
@@EvgeneXI..Yep, there's always at least 1 Soyuz spacecraft docked in the ISS to serve as a Lifeboat and also a way to alter the orbital height of the ISS
Honestly I think it's a weirdly beautiful place to end your run in the apocalypse is that weird?
Being stuck in space with no way back to earth
The scene where the LAPD cop stack gallons of water in his car, and the look he gives to Travis still gives me chills when i think about it
I find that scene (Along with many others) interesting because it shows how even such people that had access to information like that LAPD cop still didn't realize and comprehend just how LONG and how BAD things would get, So he thought that such quantities of water (And presumably other goods) for him and his family would tide him over, Not realizing that 18-20+ years later in shows like Dead City and The Ones Who Live society is still suffering from the affects of Monument Day.
I would assume that particular cop in general might've survived a while (And especially longer than his colleagues) since I believe he either left L.A shortly after this or holed up in his house.
@@FrederickTheAnon14Weven still it's smart to grab what you can when you can. The cop did the right thing there.
@@BlitzinMackGaming Of course it is, But it's better to prepare for a disaster/collapse long before it happens.
In the case of water there are many better solutions when you prep before stuff starts to hit the fan, Instead of simply hurriedly tossing cases of water into your trunk you should have and know how to install and operate a shallow well or (If you have the money) a deep well that is powered. And if you want to be creative then set up a system for rainwater collection and that way (Alongside the cases of water) you have something that is ready for the long haul.
If you don't have the money or the space then set aside a space for both water and food (And other such essentials), You can buy blue plastic containers in all different shapes and sizes. Buy one of those and rotate it out every so often whilst having a well or rainwater collection system as a main goal to work towards.
It may all sound more difficult and extreme than simply buying cases of water but the goal is something that can be used in the long-term
Yes. Great scene.
I love the one where maddy and travis are driving to the church. Someone, in shadow, in a large hat is sort of lurching along and maddy looks at them as they go by.... are they or aren't they?
@@FrederickTheAnon14W I mean I guess, but I'm definitely not prepared right now if what happened in The walking Dead happened in the real world. It's such an incredibly small chance for an extinction level event to happen in your lifetime. And your average police officer isn't going to have information about that way in advance. Basically you're saying everyone on earth should always be ready, but if that was the case there wouldn't be anywhere near enough supply to make that happen. Simply isn't possible. Any person that would prepare on that level for something like that is going to be known by everybody as the crazy end of the world guy. And if shit actually does end up happening, guess where all the desperate people are going to go first? To the crazy end of the world guy.
Meanwhile Rick: 😴😴😴
He had the greatest hangover ever… 😅😅😅
“The authorities will tell us.”
Not if they’ve already fallen as well.
Yea that's Madison assuming the authorities care about the public.
@@imepic434 Honestly I don’t blame her for thinking they’d warn the people about the wildfire virus, especially considering how the kid described it, but it’s safe to say that once she saw the Principal infected that she probably realized it was already to late.
@@imepic434 people got lots of warning in covid, and they still went out of their way to do the exaclty opposite of what was recommended.
@@laylachristina5605Exactly. This makes me assume that if the Wildfire virus ever becomes real, the world will be screwed under a week pretty much.
@@laylachristina5605fake news and a 99.9% survival rate
I still think that if the government acted enough to inform everyone how the infection works, the public and even local police forces and ambulance staff knowing this would allow them to prevent reanimation
seeing how the government reacted to covid on a local and national level compared to other states makes me imagine we'd be doomed either way.
I'm sure there'd also be like a hundred sigma male influencers who would run into hordes to prove its just a government psyop or something.
It wasn’t curable so they didn’t know. Even if they said anything, the virus was going to spread one way or another. Everyone who was sick was infected, and especially at hospitals
Agreed. ESPECIALLY since the CDC was studying it for months.
They knew, they were using air pistols to “humanely dispatch” the infected/dead. However, by that time, it was too late. Operation cobalt was enacted, and the collapse of society followed soon thereafter.
You can't say that. Look at what happened with COVID. This virus spread faster it sounds like, especially once it became airborne.
I wish that they did Fear the Walking Dead as an anthology like American Horror Story. Each season could have shown different cities at the lead up to Monument Day. First season LA but then they could have done Washington, Chicago, London, etc. That first season of Fear was excellent. And it was so scary at times as people started figuring things out.
"School's out for summer
School's out forever."
😂😂😂😂 vibessss
Last day of school.
Used to play that song on guitar hero after the last day of school. Great times!
Flooding: school still open.
Tornado: school still open.
Zombie apocalypse: school still open.
End of the world: math teacher still turns up to school.
Monument Day is the main reason I appreciate Fear the walking dead season 1. Since we got to see the early starts of the outbreak forming. I feel like the Government could have better informed the people if they took it way more seriously. Considering how fast the virus spread, it could be a little more prep time if people knew which could have saved more lives. I like how we still get some mentions of this day even now in the shows. That tells you how important this day was. I definitely feel for the astronaut because he literally had no way to get back home in space.
he's probably the luckiest person in the whole walking dead universe it's because he's the only one that didn't see someone get bit or eaten or hear the agonizing scream of someone getting eaten
@@susanoo3695would also technically mean he wouldn't be infected. The transmission was via an airborne pathogen. If he was up in space when it happened, then he wouldn't need to worry about coming back when he runs out of supplies.
Honestly, even if Kirkman never explains the origin of the virus I would love to see a true prequel series set roughly a year or so before the CDC discovered wildfire, with the show ending around the time Shane and Lori escape Atlanta.
I would *love* to see a walking dead series with 3-4 seasons that show Monument Day from the POV of 3-4 different major cities/scenarios. It would awesome to see Detroit, Chicago, Annapolis, a city thats not really big in movies. Throw in some rural Kansas for a change of pace
Enough of America show me London, Moscow, shanghai etc during monument day
I would love to see that too!! But have each season be a different city from another country like the UK, Germany, China, Russia, Italy, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. If they did do that the first season should be in The United States and these should be the cities it should take place in NYC, Philly, Chicago, Denver, SLC, Detroit, Dallas, St. Louis, Miami, Seattle, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, and Nashville.
i want to see appalachia. like heavily rural areas in West Virginia. they may not even know a thing for years
@@wyattjohnson1160..To add Americans to the mix, we can add Embassy workers too. (Like the character of Sam from the Metro series of games, he was from the Marine Security Guard, folks that guard US Embassies overseas)
@@tommyg9719 It's an interesting thought, but even if they don't have any sort of direct encounter with a walker they'll still realize somethings up when they go into town and theres no more food on the shelves because of the lack of US industry. globalization is a thing, a scary thing..
When the world falls, even the most isolated places will feel the effect.
the cosmonaut was the lucky one, he more than likely was the last human to die a natural death
If dying of thirst on a spaceship is "natural" death.
At least he shouldn t reanimate since there is low prob the virus is up there already.
sorry am late but wouldn't he , depending on when he got to space, not be infected by the virus
A couple of things: 1) when Hurricane Katrina hit, you saw mass chaos, police abandoned their posts left and right stealing cars to get out of the area- hospitals were over run as doctors and nurses fled, people were left to fend for themselves in the immediate aftermath. 2) I'm a federal worker- in the weeks before the Covid pandemic hit and everything closed down, we started getting odd/confusing e mails from the powers that be, some would one thing then another would arrive saying the opposite - then on that day in March, we came to work, only to be told to take your computer and go home as government buildings were closing down- then everything else started to close down and all you would hear was reports from hospitals about the growing sickness and how people were dying- and then- ALL THE TOILET PAPER IN THE COUNTRY DISSAPEARED! People really started getting scared -- it was all like living in some sci fi or horror movie
That was only a trial run, more, much more to come
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Gov. Stole guns from people after Katrina
It really was like it was scripted for us or something 🤔
It doesn't take much to cause chaos in a society that's already fractious and atomized. Pandemic wasn't planned or scripted, it's simply that people are predictably self concerned and extremely anxious in a situation where they don't know those around them and have to deal with something threatening. Of course, covid wasn't that bad, at least we managed. We don't even need Wildfire virus, viruses and bacteria from the past show just how bad things can be. And let's not even talk about 537 AD and the hell on earth for seven years that caused.
The same in the uk 🇬🇧 bog roll vanished overnight. It got to the point where you could only buy one of everything. So, people ended up going to multiple shops.
I feel like although the outbreak started in France, France seems to have been amongst the countries that handled the outbreak the best at least in terms of how their people fared, since the Pouvoir Du Vivant have reclaimed enough of France's territory to establish the sixth French Republic.
The CDC guy even says France lasted the longest.
1:14 be like: "Hey Lois, remember that time I became a virus to bring back Brian but ended up wrong in every way"
I felt let down by Fear of the Walking Dead in that Tobias was without doubt the smartest character in the show and he got very little time on it. His face when Madison says "the authorities would tell us if something was going on" is one of a guy who knows that history says otherwise. His grasp that canned goods needed to be grabbed, that getting whatever weapons one could find was a necessity, and that listening to the warning signs not avoiding them will keep one alive put him on the same level as Darryl and Merle in intellect and capability.
Friday is definitely the best day for it since everyone is out (at night) doing whatever like that club in Paris.
I think my fav part of any TWD realated thing is the face Tobias makes when Madison goes "The autorities would tell us", he's got that '"jesus christ you actually believe that" look of disbelief. I was so mad he wasn't an actual character in the series.
Oh yes!!! This gives me a chuckle every time. Maddie, you gon' learn, my dear.
Yes. Should have kept Tobias.
@@reg4211 He would have been great if they took more than 10 minutes to actually show "the fall of civilization". Missed oportunity, tbh that's how you can describe that series in a nuitshell "missed oportunity"
@@ogcipher4967 100%
On the channel Kill Count, the host does AVP Requiem. The scene where the characters are debating going to the center of the town because of government broadcast, Darcy says, "The government wouldn't lie!"
The Kill Count host is like "Oh Darcy."
They did Tobias dirty!
Bro, I'm a walking dead fanatic. I watch tons of twd content creators. You, my friend, have the BEST content for me. This video, as you explained monument day, actually made me feel a sense of Irriness, good job
Hey thanks so much mate! I appreciate the kind words!
Facts bro don’t miss
I used to think thew military was dumb for not being able to handle the threat of walkers even though the concept of zombies didn't exist in this universe. But after you explained how that fact fit into it I came around to not hating the military as much.
The problem I have with TWD, at least as far as the TV shows are concerned, is that the complete and utter chaos during those first few days is understandable. But when we see the military actually doing stuff they become completely incompetent in every way.
"The authorities would tell us".... LMFAO
Interestingly in reality this couldn't hold up no more, at least for prolonged time. Someone would blow the whistle at some point, at least in democratic/western societies. At least on something as major and big as this.
That’s the scary thing about society, it takes years to build but hours to destroy
0:01 he knows it’s spreading
I have no doubt that kid survived. He knew
Originally in the comics, Robert Kirkman made a one-shot comic with Rick and Shane exploring a crashed UFO in the middle of Georgia.
When brought to light on a talking dead episode, Robert Kirkman confirmed that the Wildfire Virus was extraterrestrial and that the one-shot comic is the canon origin of the virus, not the one-shot comic itself that showed up in an invicible issue. But the origin is indeed extraterrestrial
Thank you for making these videos for those who had questions throughout 14 years of The Walking Dead are starting to get answers.
6:37 World leaders knew about that one thing in 2020 in November of 2019. So them keeping a lid on it until figuring out a "plan for the public," seems to be very accurate.
I predicted Covid 19 when there was a news report of "Pneumonia outbreak" in China, that went from a few cases to 400 overnight. Months later the world shutdown.
The way you cover these events and include all of the shows is so cool. Looking forward to more of these videos
Monument Day is by far the most interesting part of the Walking Dead and the show now over 10 years old has hardly fucking explored it.
Fear the walking dead rushed it so quickly. All I want is a full season all about Monument Day it a few day before or after the outbreak there's so much you can show in this short time period for God Sakes it's a Gold mine.
I’ve been saying this for years. Absolutely criminal to only feature the fall for as little as they have.
We could even have perspectives from other countries too. The UK, Russia, and others. (TWD but with 28 Days Later kind of feels, anyone?)
Or a perspective from Embassy workers in other countries seeing their home nation and the nation they're in fall apart. (Like the origin of Sam in the Metro series of games but Zombies)
That sounds incredibly boring lol thankfully they aren’t doing that
@@taten007Would certainly be more interesting than whatever they cooked up with the ones who live
Please keep exlorimg this type of stuff , all the pre-apocalyptic tuff and crm is like gold rn with the ones who live not giving us what we desire .
Keep em coming
What was desired that they’re not giving us?
@@GaaraFPS crm info and an interesting story , michone and Rick reunion and wanting to return home should only be 1 ep . Just tru time wasting .
the most detailed explanation of monument day and operation cobault. I love your videos
I would of really loved a mini series that was just about the slow progression of incidents leading up to the collapse. FTWD touched on it a bit, but i would love an even more in depth look.
Truly an excellent channel, best out there on the walking dead universe by a country mile. Definitely love a where are the military now video if there is any left excluding CRM.
That sounds like a decent video but ultimately in my opinion all of the videos about the military AFTER the Collapse/Monument Day sound pretty much the same, Since we have such little information to go on and the majority of it is just general speculation and theorizing about where they could possibly be, If they are even still around at all.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W I think the antagonist military in Daryl Dixon are just what's left of the french military considering they call themselves the 6th french republic
It has not yet been explained exactly how the virus spread so quickly in a short period of time (Assuming its discovery was in April 2010 and Monument Day on August 27/28, 2010), just 4 months... So I remembered something, between June and July 2010, there was the World Cup, that is, millions of people (some already infected), traveling to the same place, passing the virus to other people, who would take it to their countries of origin , to their families, work colleagues or school. An event like the World Cup would greatly accelerate the spread of the Virus.
I love the way you think. Fantastic theory
Let's also not forget that the doctors and hospitals already knew that something was going on because they had (Presumably new) regulations when it came to dealing with people who coded (Died) where they would only briefly attempt to bring said people back with such things as defibrillators before taking them "Downstairs" afterwards, As seen in Fear Season 1 Episode 1 when Nick was in the hospital.
Good observation!
@@Swell-Films Thank you! It's also interesting to note that it seems that the Ambulance/EMT crews either didn't have the same protocols or weren't following them as in the highway scene the crash victim had been "Down" too long and the protocols would've told them not to risk interacting with the body after a certain period of time.
Tbh what makes The Walking Dead interesting is the virus itself and the initial collapse of society. They need to make a spinoff that focuses on this stuff. Like that movie in the 2010s called contagion but set it before collapse.
That kid talking with Madison was the smartest character in the show, I wish we had seen what happened to him and how far he made it.
Tobias was a cool character. I wish we could've found out what happened to him
Hes allegedly still alive some 15 years into the apocalypse. I hope he shows up in Tales
I also wish that we could've gotten an explanation as to what ultimately happened to Tobias, However I'm also glad that he didn't get the Morales treatment where he was brought back just for a few episodes and then killed off without any further explanation. One of the old showrunners for Fear stated that he considered Tobias to be alive after the collapse, However subsequent showrunners haven't stated this so his fate remains unknown and thus there's always a chance that he might be brought back at some point.
@onetallpheeesh they never talked about him after season 1 unless I missed something Madison said during the final season, he could be alive since the guy in daryl dixon says California has a huge settlement that's doing good
Everyone on earth carries the virus , what about the cosmonaut? He was already in space , so probably the only one who isnt?
Brother. This is amazing. Man, if you did like a weekly video or a playlist on here with the timeline and what happens in this universe from a week to week or month to month basis? That would be the best thing for TWDU RUclips
Thanks so much!
I’ve definitely been considering it! It’s a pretty convoluted timeline so it would be good to lay it out
I feel bad for the cosmonaut 👨🚀 😢😢😢
I wonder if he turned too or if he was the last person to die a natural death
Monument Day would’ve been my 8th Birthday, I can only imagine what Boston would have been like being from Massachusetts myself
Ngl, I wonder about what happened in certain prisons. People die in jail everyday. Cellmates probably got ate
keep doing this type of content im enjoying every bite fr
These videos are the BEST! Keep em coming. ❤
Fastest I’ve ever subed to a RUclips channel keep it up man you are like the British runner or Roanoke of the walking dead
I’m really enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work. It’s hard to keep everything in a correct timeline.
I love these videos, the extra detail into the show I love ❤️
It's funny how the Clarks went through so much shit, and Rick was sleeping or at the camp.
The whole collapse of society is terrifying to see.
There was a webisode called "Flight ###" ( i forget the number) where the virus showed up earliest. Nick witnessed this plane falling out of sky BEFORE his girlfriend turned into zombie in that church. An asian lady on plane noted she was already familiar with virus BEFORE outbreak on plane.
I don't give a damn what anyone says about it, there needs to be a show about the start to full collapse. The demand is there.
literally wasted potential to not having a series exploring monument day, its such a cool concept, the little things they've showed about it are some of the most interesting parts in my opinion, fucking criminal they haven't done much to explore it
With content this good, it pretty much makes it impossible not to like and subscribe. Well done Ty. 👏 🎉
The problem with FTWD is it quickly became TWD really fast. Hearing the broadcast in the back ground, seeing news reports, etc are way more terrifying than the post world. They should do a 2-3 episode spin off of the guy in space. Seeing his prospective.
I’m really starting to enjoy this type of Contant keep it up
I don’t really see this that much in this community short formed information Contant
great vid man, really enjoyed it.
L❤VE This! Best start to my Saturday, Thank You🙌💎🔥
i never finished twd or even ftwd but i love your videos as i was a major fan up until season 9 and seeing where the show went and the lore it has is really cool
That first season of fear The walking Dead was so damn good
First few episodes of FTWD & WD flashback episodes are the best best of the franchise.
I watch these videos for the narrator's hypnotic eyebrows
I was always hopeful that we would see Tobias again in Fear The Walking Dead, but sadly Kirkman never got round to it, but now with fear finished and Madison back on the seen going back to Los Angeles, i now have high hopes .
For situations like this if they just immediately told everyone how the infection works
Its highly likely most of the world would remian stable
Oh like how smooth COVID went? You would have so many people think it’s fake news.
The WILDFIRE VIRUS was introduced in remake of George Romero's DAY OF THE DEAD.
I really find the end of the world so intriguing and hearing how governments handle different types of situations
The big mailbox thing being flipped at 5:11 is insane them things are bolted down and even if they weren’t they are heavy af. No idea why but I thought that was funny 😂
I think biting and/or scratching introduces the body to the virus in its active farm rather then the dormant form that doesn't activate until death. This causes the body to try and fight it like any other virus/bacteria hence symptoms like Fever, coughing, aches and pains etc. The dormant form of the virus probably also wakes up and makes the process faster. Theoretically there's is a incredibly and I mean next to impossible chance that someone could actually beat the virus someway, some how.
i just found this channel stopped watching walking dead after the negan arc couldnt keep up with it. how many variations or branches are their of this show i cant believe they went this deep with the lore this is amazing lol
When the electricity goes it is all over.
Well if a virus like this happens in our world (it can’t) everyone would know what to do and society would likely not collapse. I find this really interesting I used to be scared of this series but I’ve grown used to it. Keep up the good work!!
yes it can
It’s crazy how society fell in 2010
Extraordinary content!!!
Keep it up,
I know they did fear but they should do like a series of like “The Walking Dead: day 1” And the episodes all saying like 3 weeks in and 2 months in or something like that. Seeing how it began in city’s like Chicago or Miami or in Colorado would be interesting I think. Seeing how people all across the world lived thru the beginning days of the apocalypse
In Ftwd the hospital staff that nick was in. The hospital staff new what happens when someone dies because they were putting dead bodies in the basement
Love your videos thank you friend
I LOVED the start of fear
They probably would have called the Cosmonaut back. Officials knew something was happening before everyone else did.
I'd wanna see a series that's stories of day one survivors as they experience the outbreak day 1. Just each season goes to a different city or part of the world.
2:03 imagine the reaction o the main characters of walking dead find out about Primrose & they are the one who started all this. (The people surviving members of the team will be hunted down)
It would be really nice to get a government perspective with the president or something to at least know what happened or where they fled to
You made my Saturday so much better and eating my dinner and watching this making this ten times better! You keep on making my day and awesome videos!
Hey glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
@@Swell-Films now here a question do you ever think you will do a video about the Atlanta Police officers in season 5? They saw the cobalt and seeing the military killing civilians.
@@aaronpasetti absolutely! I’ll admit it’s not at the top of the list, but I’ll definitely be making one on Grady memorial eventually!
@@Swell-Films perfect because they have a good backstory and this is the crazy part did they know about CDC exploding or Rick shooting down in the city plus we saw the hospital in season 2 episode 1
Anyone else read the Andromeda Strain?
Cause you should. I read it in the 90's and it pretty much spells out the Walking Dead and current society.
Bro I walk away from this show for 5 years and suddenly there are like 4 extra shows 😂
This is what we want to see! Not excactly how the virus originated, but how the society fell
You should make a playlist of these videos in chronological order!
I actually have one! It’s “The Walking Dead Universe Lore Explained & Explored”
You should be able to see it in my playlist section on my channel
@@Swell-Films oh hell yes! Thank you! 😎
I was only in the 10th grade during these events. With a new dog and my mom's birthday is on August 26. As a former NYer at that time, I can say my family and I wouldn't have survived 😭
holy man this video is amazing the editing is exquisite it gives me a scary eerie type of vibe love the vids bro ur so underrated
Hey thanks so much mate!
Its interesting but for some reason it just bothers me, like why would you be RIOTING while a dude next to you is getting munched on
Because at this point the vast majority of people weren't even anywhere close to realizing what was going on. The information was out there but if their universe (Which seems to be very closely resembling ours) is anything like ours then such information was taken down and censored early on as "Conspiracy Theories" so only a few small sites and groups of people had this information during the collapse, And since the collapse took place over 2 days there wasn't a whole lot of time for this information to come to light to the general population before either the Internet (Along with the power) went down, Or they encountered the Wildfire Virus first hand.
That's why the whole riot got started in the first place because the citizens weren't aware of the Wildfire Virus and just thought that the Police had killed an innocent homeless man. And you also gotta realize that in a riot with all kinds of chaos going on a lot of people aren't going to be paying attention because their attention span is going to either be nonexistent (Due to the stress of the riot) or entirely focused on something else, In this case either the Police (If you're a rioter) or the rioters (If you're the Police).
I feel like in the chaos during the riots people wouldn’t be able to tell until it was too late
@odst8709 I guess? But like seeing ppl writhing on the ground might be a dead give away...also did they keep trying to eat ppl fully or just "bite, turn, move on to the next"
@@gajeel9798 Well, knowing that people in TWD universe had no concept of zombies as we do, they thought the police were shooting sick patients and that's the reason the riots began. In the chaos, the walker's senses were overwhelmed with so much sound and smell and yeah, they went from one victim to another, and people probably thought it was some street fight or whatever
@nevyanplamenov5409 oof interesting...tho cause naturally a virus would want to spread to as many hosts as possible but since everyone was infected already....I guess it was just "step 2: speed up process" also wonder if the dude in the ISS would turn when he eventually died...space zombies!!! Lol
Tobias got a raw deal
I love your videos, but I just wanted to clarify Jims case was unique it did take him two days to turn but if you remember them going to the CDC later in the first season of The Walking Dead that Dr. Edwin Jenner‘s wife, her transformation took two hours and he had received reports that one had turned in as little as three minutes to support the three minute theory or a short reanimation theory after Rick killed Shane in season two episode 12 it took about maybe five minutes for Shane to come back it’s different for every vessel
Continuing executions as normal once the virus was known as an incredibly stupid decision (where we see Teddy escape prison).
Imagine being a police responding to a person who got hit by a truck or a bus and that person stood and trying to attack the others and you fired a round into the torso only for them to keep walking to bute or violently attack someone else and that person who got attacked to turn like them.
Walking dead really thrives telling early storys about how people got to where they are and what they were doing when shit popped off
Your videos are better than the actual show.
7:48 probably the most realistic part of such an apocalypse. People who don’t want to do their job. 😂
Just cause the CDC is giving up on curing it, doesn't mean I'd give up trying to survive. Realistically, any place that has a hot climate or a temperate climate getting hit during the height of summer would see the undead rotting away to bone within months. A corpse is a corpse so they'll rot until there's nothing left. Espesically out in the heat while not being embalmed.
I was disappointed in not getting enough of the fall of civilization from a larger view in this show but Fear in the end I though for the most part was well written and acted. There were times when I think Fear was much better than TWD was at the time.
IDK if you TWD fans know but there are novels of TWD and they're really good. One series with about 9 books is about how the Governor became the Governor then it becomes Lilly Caul's series and it's a really fun exciting series. But then there's a standalone novel of the outbreak in China. With a white lady stuck in China trying to survive and such. Which made me want them to do a series outside the US badly and then we got it with Daryl Dixon and France. And hopefully maybe other countries like Spain or some UK countries. But a show that starts at the downfall and not after.
Found your channel for Walking Dead content, sticking around for the same content! Top tier and underrated creator!