Ruger 45 ACP LC Carbine!
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The new Ruger LC Carbine in 45 ACP is here. The 5.7x28 was the first gun in this line to be introduced and in 2024 Ruger introduced the new 45 version.
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I've had my 45 LCP Carbine for around 4 months now. Love it. Great shooter. Around here its going for less than retail by a couple benjamin's or so. Awesome carbine, well worth the buy 👍😁👍
I would say $850 would be fair.
I have a G21 SF and mags so I really really want one
Where did you buy it. I have not been able to find it.
@@miniaturefarmer464 ..... The local shops around my area are selling them in the 775-800 range.
@@brucecole1038 ..... I got mine direct from Ruger, but several shops around my area have them in the 775-800 price range.
Guns like this make sense to me. If a gun is chambered in a pistol caliber it's just logical that it should feed from pistol magazines, and if it's fed from pistol magazines it's just logical that it should also have pistol controls.
I've had one for a few months and ZERO failures. Prints .7" groups @ 25 yards with cheap 230 gr. blazer ammo all day long so I imagine 200 yard man size silhouette targets would be cake with the right optic. Takedown and reassembly can be done in seconds and when folded it's tiny. There's three ways to release the bolt, right thumb bolt release lever, right forefinger button or simply pull the bolt back. This thing is pure beef and almost all metal, but for those who complain, the Ruger is still 2 lbs. lighter than a Thompson. As a reloader, I'm looking forward to developing some loads utilizing some slower burning powders to take advantage of the 16" barrel that might be considered "too dirty" in a standard 5" barrel. The only downside I've experienced so far is an erratic trigger pull from 5 lbs 5 oz to well over 11 lbs, but thinking that a good flush with some gun scrubber and at worse a little stoning can cure it. One thing that wasn't mentioned is that if you remove the stock, there's a hole for a cleaning rod so clean it from the breech. Also, the manual states that it is +P rated, but I wonder if the .45 Super with the stronger case could be used.... On that note, this carbine with .460 Rowland conversion would be a freakin' monster and would put the 10mm cartridge to shame. That could crack an engine block much less a charging bear, talk about about self-protection camp carbine!
I've had mine a couple weeks and agree on the accuracy. Mine feeds anything I can stuff in the mag. About that hole in the back for a cleaning rod. Why didn't they make it large enough to accept a .45 cal jag? I'm wondering if the 5.7 version has the same small hole. I also agree on the trigger. It could definitely be a tad lighter but it doesn't seem to detract from the accuracy. Did you notice in the manual the note to fill a small well below the hammer with grease? That's a bit different.
@@eosjoe565 I DID NOT see that note in the manual, I'll have to check that out. And yes, I have to put the rod through the hole and thread the jag on, but the patch would get pulled off coming through the back of the receiver anyway so not too big a deal.
@@SuperRamcharger It's noted in the manual at the bottom of Page 52.
Use 4227 and CFE BLK for your carbine length .45. Charge to whatever your recoil spring can handle. I think I began workups at 7.0 gns, but I was using a different rifle than you have. Avoid 296/110. PS, the 185 Fudd slugs was a plus for range and velocity. Less mass to push out.
Yep, 10mm is a must! This would be the perfect back woods backpack gun.
Who is carrying a backpack gun in the backwoods? Maybe on a camping trip if someone is Cosplaying being a survivalist. People just make shit up in their fantasies.
Hell yeah 👍
@AboveAverageMan97 10 is Maxx!
Yes, I agree. 10 mm is a must but have you noticed that every gun company out there is making things that no one truly wants
@AboveAverageMan97 45 already is 11mm lol
LOL the running off laughing while shooting had me on the floor, was not expecting that.
We've all done it..... lol😂
Now picture this: 10mm LC Charger with 10" barrel.
You dirty dog
With integral suppressor!
@@andrewallason4530even better
That would be so much better than a 16 inch barrel. I really hope they make a Gen 2 and more of a variety of calibers I feel like they're missing a good opportunity there with the charger
Super Vel makes a .45 ACP ±P cartridge loaded with a 160 gr. Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) at an honest 1,200 fps. Muzzle Energy: 512 ft/lbs.
I like the .45 ACP for it flexibility for standard subsonic loads and hotter +P loads.
The barrel twist rate might not like that light of solid copper bullet but it'd be neat to try
I believe that it was teased that the “odd placement” of the 1913 rail underneath is a placeholder for a future “charger” version like they have with the 5.7. I sure hope so because that would be an awesome PDW style gun to run suppressed with 45 being subsonic.
Yeah, the charger version is gonna be awesome and definitely on my list to get as soon as it comes out. I have put a large size Magpul AFG on my carbine in that location and it feels real good.
Tim never misses an opportunity to tell us he’s good big hands
What does that mean 🤔
@@MrJdebestTrump mentioned his big hands too 😂
@jamesmarkov9570 Oh, I have big feet, and you know that men with big feet have big socks.
It’s good he does, just like Hickok45, he makes guns look smaller than they really are.
@WniGrupspell-check of ‘got’, me tinks.
I have been waiting for Ruger to make a 10mm PCC for along time now.....
I agree a 10mm is a must
I want one!
Why? What does it do besides drain your bank account.
10mm is overrated, 460 Rowland ftw!!!
I bought one of these a couple weeks ago. I am very impressed. It is extremely accurate. I mounted a Holosun HS503CU and sighted mine in with for 25 yds as that is the effective range at which it is most likely to be used. From a supported position (not bench rest) it basically just made one ragged 1-inch hole in the target. I shot a little over 100 rds, a combination of several brands of 230 FMJ, 230 JHP and 185 +P JHP and everything was accurate and fed 100% reliably across 8 different Glock magazines. I only have one gripe, Ruger had the forethought to mill a hole in the end of the receiver to accept a cleaning rod so you can clean the bore from the breach. But... the hole is too small to pass a .45 cal jag! Huh? I'm wondering if it's the same hole used for the 5.7 version. :-)
The 1913 rail in front of the trigger guard is for the RGL. Ruger Grenade Launcher.
Someone needs to make a clip for an extra magazine to go there, parallel with the barrel (IOW not sticking down).
@@chipsterb4946like the two on the stock of the FPC 9mm
@@chipsterb4946angled fore-gip, with magazine slot!
@@andrewallason4530 the LC 45’s center of balance is farther forward than you might think. Half of that giant chunk o’ bolt is ahead of breach. My support hand goes farther out toward the muzzle - and I have an angled fore grip up there.
@@chipsterb4946 that makes sense. Never held one, but, as you say, with a telescoping bolt it’s gonna be a bit off balance.
Picked mine up a couple months ago, I like that it can shoot +p ammo with out any modifications
The textured depressable extractor is a great new feature. Especially for those of us who carry with one in the chamber it's about time. 10mm is a must as well.
A bullpup kit with maybe a 10in barrel could make this a top tier civ PDW
You know they already have plans for a 10mm release. That is how marketing goes. Release one at a time. Looks like a lot of fun.
I really doubt it. Ruger has some anti 10mm people in upper management.
This was explained to me by someone in Ruger, at last year's shot show.
What's it been for the .45 after the 9mm? Six, seven years? Don't hold your breath on the 10mm.
The handling is smooth, and the performance is top-notch.
In my experience, 230gr 45 from an 11" barrel is tolerable without hearing protection for a few shots but would still recommend if you have it. From longer barrel, even better. 230gr reaches max velocity in 11". 185gr can keep accelerating at 16-18".
I can't wait for the charger version.
A buddy of mine is a retired PD who carried 45 acp Glocks as his primary service weapon and backup. He absolutely swears by them and is very much waiting for the charger version
Load in 45 super and its better than 10mm. I choose 45 pcc mainly cause 9mm hollow points are expensive to stock up and 45 ball works pretty good if shtf as a back up to a rifle.
FWIW, i did stop by copper custom (found out about them thru this channel). GREAT bunch of people there, very helpful, no pressure. altho' it's not close enough to stop by often, it is a pleasant drive for a day trip and i definitely plan to visit whenever i get the chance!
Thanks for stopping by!
2 useful tools for this carbine
1. Uplula speed loader
2. KCI USA, 26 rnd magazine
I like it as my EDC is a commander in 45, although I use 185 grain rounds.
185 is way more powerful out of long barrel, gaind much more velocity.
Thank you for your service and another great video. I must say I’m a big Ruger fan I own three of them. And I would love to have that one in my collection too.😊
Send the to the 460 Rowland conversion guys
45 Supers are quite sporty and doesnt lock you into a boutique caliber
You can even drop a few Supers into your trusty USP without incident. Now tgey know for certain, you don't play!
He mentioned the magazines are compatible with the Glock G21 but I’d like to add the G30 also.
I have a TNW Aerorifle in 45 and uses Glock mags but I like this Ruger way better. I bought it before TNW made their pistol versions or threaded barrels. So if thy make a PC Charger takedown of this 45 that TNW will turn into one of those.
could you SBR it chop down the barrel and removing the handguard? at that point it the rail in front of the trigger guard would make more sense.
I wonder why they went with the LC instead of the PC series.
The ergos and compactness of a magazine inside the pistol grip?
What's the difference? Serious question
ATFs dumb brace laws they were playing it safe
@@ROOSTER333this vid shows an LC. The PC is more like a traditional rifle with the mag forward of the trigger. They look like a bigger 10/22. Some PCs have pistol grips but some have more traditional rifle stocks. I'm honestly more of a sucker for the look of the PC but the LC lends itself to having an inherently shorter receiver
light carbine
Was waiting for the..."does it hip fire". Been too long since we had a gun tested for it.
I'm with you on the 10MM. Use a caliber that benefits more from the extra barrel length. I think 220gr subsonic is viable.
The LC carbine is made 8 miles from my house and no dealer has one in 45 caliber in stock. I do have the 5.7 x 28mm and that's a great gun.
I love it, “If I had to pick between the 5.7 and 45 ACP, I’d choose the 10mm” 😅 👍🎯
I was thinking the same thing MAC!!
which makes no sense in this case.
why would they make it 10mm first ?
there are many more people that fire 45 acp handguns than there are 10mm handgun shooters.
marketing.
besides suppressors work better with 45.
a subsonic 10mm is less powerful than a standard 45.
ruger rated it to safely fire 45 +p, equalling 10mm.
buffalo bore outdoors man 10mm 220 grain / 1200 fps / 703 fpe vs 45 super 255 grain / 1075 fps / 654 fpe.
I think it’s a sweet concept. The magwell for PCC’s should be pistol grip. Making a separate magwell isn’t necessary for pistol calibers.
I just wish they made it as a braced pistol version for using it with a suppressor.
There’s even more logic to the mag going in the grip.
I had an Uzi in the 80’s.
The mag goes in the grip. Well it is pistol caliber but the logic is also training it’s hand on hand like fist on fist. Easier to align. Easier to align in the dark.
And like in the dark easier to align without looking and keeping your eye on the target. Say a foe/burglar or multiples.
These remind me a lot of the MechTech carbine conversions for various handguns (XD/XdM, Glocks, 1911) and the Norlite USK-G, which is the same concept, only more modernized.
The MechTech and Norlite require you to have a standard handgun that you swap the carbine upper for the slide, and re-use your magazines.
The MechTech runs anywhere from $400-700 depending on accessories and barrel length (you can get 12" models) and they have more calibers (9MM, .40S&W, 10MM, .45ACP, .45 Super, and .460 Rowland, they discontinued their .357SIG models a long time back) but the downside is it's essentially a direct blowback steel tube receiver with a mounting boss welded on to mate to the pistol lower. If you want to accessorize (lights, optics, etc) your options are a small section of pic rail and the 2 handguards that MechTech manufactures or try to gimmick a Magpul fore-end onto it, which still isn't all that great.
The Norlite is newer, much easier to configure to your liking as it has MLOK, and is also available in different barrel lengths. It's also a lot nicer looking, in my opinion, but beauty lies in the eye of the beer holder and all that...
The Norlites downsides : 9MM/.40S&W/.357SIG only. Glock only, and finally, German sales only as Norlite thus far has shown no indications that they have any interest in exporting it here to the US market. Given the labor costs in Germany, I can't fault them, as it would likely cost as much or more than the LC Carbine being reviewed, and you'd still need to have the appropriate model Glock handgun or acquire one if you don't have one already.
I'm a 10mm fan as well! I got the B&T APC 10 because I hate money. This is an interesting addition to the PCC options out there.
This setup would win battlefield 2042 games
It would be great if Ruger could make a conversion in 10mm for the 45acp /5.7x28mm carbine. So that way a customer that already has a 45acp/5.7mm does not have to buy a whole other firearm.
Don’t get me wrong,offer a carbine in 10mm. Just give people who love all three cartridges an option.
Or maybe a third party aftermarket company could come up with something.
Either way it is great to see a company, as big as Ruger,chamber a carbine in 45acp. Not to complain the 9mm Luger is a great cartridge.
However there is more to life than 9mm Luger.
Thank you for an another great review.
Re chamber it to 460 rowan . Much bigger recoil spring , or get your 500 nitro express .
I'm rocking the 45 Hi Point carbine 😎 Love it! Although it definitely looks like this Ruger has much less recoil lol
Hi-Point has such a wide variety of Calibers in their Carbines - 9mm; .45; .40; 10mm; 380, and Most Owners of these Carbines enjoy them as they are well made and reliable. Nothing Fancy - just a basic American made Carbine at a fairly low price point and great Customer Support.
The Hi Point 995 is the gateway drug to semiauto pistol caliber carbines. I still have mine somewhere. Before that it was Marlin 1894s in .41 mag to match up with an embarrassing array of revolvers in the same caliber.
When I saw the Ruger LC 45 ACP I saw a carbine that would match the velocity of the original.41 Police caliber Elmer Keith invisioned in the 1960s with a modern JHP bullet with a weight 20 gr heavier than the standard.41 bullet. Basically, no appreciable difference. I had to have one. Mr. Keith was correct then and still is in my opinion. A .40 something caliber 200+ gr bullet at 1000 FPS or a bit more = a controllable, effective defense cartridge.
By the way, your Hi Point .45 I’m sure yields the same results.
Best wishes.
Because I own a 9mm, I chose a 9mm carbine made by Juggernaut Tactical. I do like the fact it's chambered in 9mm. The rifle comes with the "Hell Fighter" magazine lock making the rifle Comiefornia compliant. The rifle also accepts Magpul 10rd magazines that can be purchased at local sporting stores.
Hopefully they come out with a Charger(pistol) version. Take about 6-8” off that barrel and put a suppressor on it and makes a lot more sense to me.
Chrono it along with a regular 5" .45. Oh, and there's my algorithm offering
This is literally a modern day uzi and I love it.
Love the videos! 10mm is the way, making most calibers nearly obsolete. Ive just never justified purchasing a 45 due to my ownership of 10mm's. Thanks for your content!
@BenRivered
I feel the same way about 10mil. No need for it since I load and am set up for 460 Rowland and 45 Super.
How does 10 Mike Mike make nearly all calibers obsolete? I'm assuming you are talking about pistol calibers. How is it so versatile? Unless you reload, or pay the price of Underwood and other high performance ammo manufacturers to get the ballistics of the original loadings you will have no more than a warmed up .40 S&W. The original loadings were very hard on pistols and hard on many shooters. Plus they are not suppressor friendly. You probably say that capacity is superior. Well,not for civilian self defense as you will likely get off 2 or 3 shots before the clock stops for the bad guy or unhappily for you. Where capacity shines brightly is plinking. In that aspect,the more,the merrier 🤗! See, I'm not an old fudd. Just old. However I love ❤️ high capacity for recreational purposes. When it comes to the 2A, the rest of the Bill of Rights I'm a confirmed Originalist.
@terrywadsworth5645 bc I know everything about everything & you know nothing abt everything.
Field strip looks a lot easier than the PC carbine it's not that bad on the PC carbine but has several tiny parts that are not captive once the bolt is removed(they are held by the receiver while the bolt is in place) that can easily become lost
Wonder why everyone fears producing a 10mm. Been a fanboy of it since inception. However, a close friend treated a bunch of 5.7 induced wounds one day in Texas. He’s convinced it works.
I mean technically a surgeon will be convinced any round works, especially if it fragments off bone. We have ballistics tech for a reason that goes beyond personal anecdotes of trauma. Look at how many murders are committed with .22 LR in Baltimore
They don’t sell.
Vaguely remember something about KRISS having cracked bolt face issues in their 10mm vectors. And what the other guy said. Most people have 9mm handy, less have 45 laying around, and a small ass fraction keep 10mm.
10mm has much more recoil and the ammo is twice, if not 3X more expensive.
@@ez56789 It's the same reason why you don't see many if anyone else doing stuff for .50 AE. People love the cartridge so long as they aren't paying for it.
40 super or 460 Rowland conversion with a glock 41 on the hip and some kriss vector mag extensions,
Warrior IIV hat? 😏Gods Blessings on you and yours! Always good to see your content!
I want a PCC done up with 44 mag or something different, I think that would be really cool.
Ya, we call those lever guns. 44 magnum is a rimmed cartridge. They don’t feed in pistol style magazines. It would probably be curved something like a ak magazine.
@@leadfarmer556 Desert Eagle
Sounds like a great home defense carbine
All it needs is a bolt lock for extra silent. Yes 10mm would be nice.
This will be one of the few affordable pistol cliber carbines in the US market that can shoot cheap subsonic ammo with a suppressor.
PCC in .45ACP caliber are very rare. Apart from the expensive HK USC and KRISS Vector, there are almost only Hi-Point Model 4595 available on the market.
Just picked up a Quarter Circle 10 in 10mm, absolutely love it.
If there was a way to make this in 460 Rowland that can also shoot 45 super and 45 ACP that would also be a back woods option. Apologies if I’m way off base, MAC love your content as always
I'm sure it can handle 45 super pressures but 460 Roland you would have to modify the chamber and possibly change the recoil spring also the mags would need a stronger spring.
U beatme toit! My dream is to hava .460 Rowland carbine/handgun combo. Seems like, especially for carbines, tha shootin .45ACP ammo's wherit gets tricky.
Everyone is saying 10mm but I would love to see a 44magnum carbine
10MM would be on the hairy edge of reliability for direct blowback.
A PCC in .44 Magnum would require an actual locking delay mechanism to operate safely. If they could adapt their old Model 44 design to the LC, it could keep costs within a couple of hundred of the 9MM/.45 offerings, and they'd be smart to use Desert Eagle magazines, or Coonan if they offer a .357 Mag model, vs. expensive proprietary magazines, as was their practice in past years.
.44 magnum is a terrible autoloader cartridge because of the rim. That was an issue with the Ruger .44 magnum carbine of the late 60's.
They might be able to reintroduce the old Ruger carbine in .44 Mag. The more reliable version was with a tubular magazine. Though considering that there are lever action carbines in this caliber with tubular magazines holding 10 rounds, they should be able to make one with that capacity.
@@dbmail545no it wasn’t. That firearm (which I own) was discontinued due to cost of production. It’s 100% reliable. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
Hahaha, caught me off guard, 5-7 or 45 ACP I"ll take the ten hahahah. Thanks and take care
Thanks for watching!
Yes, this in a braced 10mm pistol would be on my short, 'must-have' list.
Knew it. Glock mags.
I haven’t watched the video yet but you had me at Ruger 45 ACP Carbine!
Would like to see like a 10” pistol version especially if I were gunna suppress it. With that bit of picatinny on the bottom makes me wonder if that’s the plan, because there might not be room for an AFG if they shorten the handguard for a pistol version
I suspect that 10mm will not work with this design. Because this design is a blowback action, Ruger would need to install an even heavier bolt, in order to slow down the rearward movement of the bolt upon firing, so the case is not prematurely extracted. The extra weight would make the rifle too heavy to be handy.
i would love to see this in 9x19 but use sig m17 magazine. this could make a nice close combat rifle and with the advantage of use the same pistol magazine you already have on you.
Does the 16” barrel add velocity or ballistic improvement over a 5” barrel in .45 acp?
Extractor deal sounds like it could useful in slowly, carefully, closing the bolt of a suppressed weapon in certain circumstances?
I've always liked his reviews because he is never biest and always honest
You guys might laugh and I never thought in a million years I would say this but as far as a pistol caliber carbine the high point is tough to beat and if you compare prices to this carbine and a high point I own the 45 high point carbine and I've put a little over 2000 rounds through it never had a issue at all and I mean at all it may not have some of the features this carbine in this video has but it's realible, accurate, quiet surprisingly and they are making 20 round red ball mags for it that function perfectly so I'm not knocking this carbine in this video but I would say to everyone you need to try the highpoint carbine their pistols are shit in my opinion but the carbines are a diamond in the rough as they say if you know someone with one try it out and see what you think like I said I bought mine used for $300 and it was a good investment really like it so please guys when you get a chance give the highpoint a try you will not be disappointed
I love my Glock 21SF. A carbine would be pretty sweet too but I’d still rather my 5.56 haha. Good suppressed pair though in .45ACP. Great video as always
I hope they make a new version of their 9mm carbine that is grip fed like these
I'm liking that more round handguard compared to the 5.7 version. Very cool and compact looking carbine.
Hopefully there's a 9mm version coming.
this makes the hi point 4595 look good
I more or less agree. This thing is a thousand bucks. If it was 699-799 it would be more appealing.
@@TacticalJackalope.... Around here the 45 LC carbine is going for eight benjamin's or less at several places.
I am very insterested in this carbine. However, at a grand it's too expensive. That places it way more than a CZ Skorpion and other options. Ruger has forgotten their history and that they used to be a value priced manufacturer.
Sheeesh. Overpriced
Just bought one and looking forward to some range time with it.
It is certainly a very eye-catching weapon. Any chance of having a 10mm version of this model? I wouldn't think twice about buying one in 10mm!
Currently and at this time, with my budget, I'll have to stick with the multiple Hi-Point Carbines in your caliber\s of choice option for the price of 1 of these seemingly solid and well made Ruger lc Carbines.
Perhaps when someday gets here I'll change my mind.
But even then, a mixed pallet of mostly ammo, some storage, a few accessories\ parts kits, and multiple feeding devices that I can use, would likely still be more enticing.
this is one bad ass, and cool! thanks for the video!
YOU MADE ME BUST OUT LAUGHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME CHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you should do a underwood 45 acp defender ammo jell test through multiple guns,I wonder if will feed them or the penetrator rounds even ,possibly a speed test as well.
I'm definitely a big fan of the centimeter (at least when it comes to calibers) but what would be the advantage of a PCC 10mm versus a 300 blackout pistol?
Maybe they can make a 10mm upper to switch out with. That would be cool.
Looks like a cool little firearm. I'll keep my eyes open for one at the local shop just to see how it feels my hands. But yes, a 10mm would be sweet.
It’s pretty overpriced imo
Definitely interesting and different option 🤔
The small picatinny rail was probably designed into the carbine so that when the sbr length barrels come out it will already be on the rifle
Does that stock fold?
Subbed, nice video
Ehh o k....,imagine this in select fire ..FIRE 🔥
This one I like from Rugar.
I've never seen him so animated. Think he likes it.
These are like modern tube guns by the way they look
Good house gun :)
I have one. I suggest you get rid of the dinky folding stock and put a 1911 adapter and install a proper buffer tube based stock.
Amazing how the metric-decimal system just makes the 10mm the perfect round that everyone wants.
It’s like rational humans are drawn to rational calibers 👌
but do they 80's hip fire?
Just like they did with the 5.7, id love to see this in a Charger variant
One big thing I see, no type of dust cover.
45 Super is your friend Mac
doesnt 16 inch barrel actually slow down 45 acp because of full powder burn
Yes, I've read that 10-12 inches is the ideal barrel length for 45 acp
Their marketing answer to the pistol brace problem. CMMG Banshee is all one needs.
This is possible with some of the bullets. Others with slower burning powders can gain velocity from the additional barrel length. There are a few +P bullets when fired from this carbine that approach .44 Mag energy from a revolver.
Interesting design for sure. However I think that CMMG Radial Delayed Blowback 45 ACP carbine is a better option for ergonomics and Long term durability. It's nice to see Ruger producing modern designs compared to how they were back in the 1990's.
Do they make a pistol with a 5 inch barrel and brace? Id only be interested if it was like an mp7 at home
CMMG Banshee does that.
I think I saw the kid come out for a second .