Hey Chaps! Which would you go for XPS or MBP?? 👉 Quick Update: uninstalling the realtek audio drivers then downloading latest ones from Dell's website has fixed my audio issue.
Jo Kensy if that were true surely you’d know different people come from different financial situations where even if they do work hard in school they’re still screwed over later
Dell really has big problem of quality control, and that's not acceptable considering the price you pay. Looking good is not enough, you need to deliver too. I like the XPS line, but I really worry to get a bad unit...
Actually buying the retail versions of both machines out of your own money was such a sign of commitment on your part, that you really earned the subscription and the like that I've now given you! Keep up the great work!
The most underrated part of any MacBook IMO is that they run as well off battery power as they do when they're plugged in. That's very important, especially for someone on the go. I learned the hard way when I bought a surface pro 4 several years ago that even that thin and light device with no dedicated graphics ran poorly off battery power and just fine when plugged in.
esp with no updates due to ARM yeah. sure its going to be the last intel based gen but the OS will be deprecated as a result, so what's the point? doubt it will hold value that well.
I got in around 2015 a MacBook Pro 2010 (one of the best notebook at its time and without dramatical failures like the 2011+ GPU failures.) for 400$, the owner even replaced the battery at apple before he sold it. Still working awesome in 2020, got like 3 weeks ago also a new battery (Yanec, damn awesome batteries, +400mAh/6Wh compared to original battery) I dont know why so many people still believe used apple products are so expensive, they are not, you only have to find a nice deal, which is hard to find since some Mac users even try to resell their 1-2 year old MacBook for like 80% of the original value to get "for cheap" the newer model. I found so many like 3-5 year old macs, working ofc for cheap, especially from the users which hate the overheating/soldered SSDs and the bullsh*t apple is doing to prevent the users from fixing their own "Pro" products. Thats why i even say the newer MacBook Pros dont deserve to be called Pro... any professional usecase will include: - service, which is some sort of impossible at apple machines - data recovery, say hello to the T2 chip and soldered SSDs, data recovery is going to be impossible - battery swaps/Ram upgrades.... something you should consider in a "Pro" product.... With this facts in mind, the last MacBook "Pros" were made in around 2013, newer MBPs are not "Pro" anymore, only some kind of nice looking notebook with decent performance. Therefor, the prices are dropping faster compared to older Macs. But yes, still very often overpriced.
Do people buy laptops (or any tech for that matter) based on resale value though? At least personally I don't consider that too heavily when I'm purchasing a device.
@@0xC272 I agree that we do not buy a laptop for resale value, but it's great to know that when you're ready for an upgrade, you can actually get value out of it. Like the MacBook Air 2012 I own, it performs today like I bought it yesterday, and if I wanted to sell it, the price (8 years later) for a used one trends at $450-$500. So if I wanted to buy the newer $1,000 MacBook Air, I could save $500; that's half the price. Fair?
@@MidnightBloomDev That's what you think. A lot of big tech companies like Dell and Apple have such an obsession with tb3, plus at this price point I do see tb3 accessories being useful.
@@MidnightBloomDev Again, it's those big tech companies that have obsessions with tb3. Even though it might not be useful, I just don't see Dell and Apple removing tb3.
If Dell puts AMD Ryzen into the XPS series soon they’ll really start to make this a viable option to the MacBook Pro. Along with fixing their QC issues.
@-- Ye, it's why in most big tech companies offices are filled with ThinkPads (running Linux) and MacBooks. If you have to rely on that tech and have to pay your employees significant wages, any downtime due those devices failing costs you quite a large amount of money, more than the initially higher investment. I think IBM even released some numbers regarding MacOS and Windows laptops and found that MacBooks amortized themselves big time over the years, if you factor tech support and down-time into the equation.
@@Hellios92 fan boy? you know nothing about me, I own more windows devices than apple so shut your mouth. I not saying both brands aren't great. Im just saying if I'm paying almost 3k, the speakers better work, and they better work well.
For the sound issue Go into device manager Open sound controllers Open Realtek Audio properties Check for updates or even choose drivers on your computer by selecting "Browse my computer for driver software" and clicking on "Let me pick from a list..." There's nothing wrong with the hardware of your speakers, just a software issue That fixed it for me :)
@@fpaivinha Well, if performance is all you want, I would highly recommend you to max out only CPU and GPU then upgrade the ram yourself since they are upgradable and will save you a ton in this way.
I never understand why can't we get 2K display on Windows laptops? With current technology we have, personally I think 2K is the sweet spot between screen quality and battery life. 4K barely gets any improvement on laptops at normal distance but kills battery significantly.
I got the MBP 16 and I absolutely love it. It's my first Apple product (not counting an iPod nano). I'm a grad student and my research requires lots of coding, so having 8 cores 16 threads for parallel jobs, a unix OS, and fantastic gestures for multitasking make it perfect. There were times when a class assignment took >10 minutes on my friends computers, but took me a minute once parallelized. I've previously had to dual boot windows and linux mint, or get ubuntu on windows which has it's own problems, but with mac OS, I don't need linux. The speakers and microphone are outstanding and I've never had such large battery life on a laptop. The graphics can easily handle 3D modeling software like Fusion 360 and you can tell Apple notices what their customers are doing cause you can natively view 3D .stl models in finder. The screen color temperature auto adjusts to your room so well that you'll not want to go back to your windows displays (which are either slightly blue, or really yellow in night mode). I set up bootcamp, and sadly a few features of the touchbar don't seem to work there, but it's otherwise perfectly fine. I was able to run COD WW2 with medium settings at the max 60 fps, although COD can't be a great experience at 60 fps IMO. The keyboard is very quick and responsive. The laptop does run quite hot when doing any intensive task, and of course I would have preferred having internal access to the ram and storage like you do with many Windows laptops, but that wasn't gonna happen with Apple. I will say that if you're not planning on making use of the multitasking or coding-friendly features of Mac OS, or if you plan on actually gaming with it, you should probably save money and get a Windows machine with NVIDIA graphics.
Hi Tom, I left a comment on your previous video about the quiet sound issue, now this video sounds obviously louder, at least in my devices. That helps a lot. Thank you!
I would say get the xps 15. It is much more portable. If you are looking for processing power, you can get a desktop instead or even invest in an egpu.
I was struggling with the same decision, went for the XPS15 in the end. No quality control issues like many people have reported, guess I got a good one haha. Posted an unboxing and initial impressions video if you're interested!
At least it has decent disipation. That's why the mbp falls down on tests and exporting tasks. Feels very snappy doing regular things ("macbook" things). But when you go for the "pro" things... that "quality" design is not there. Just looking cool (and the 16 model is the only non-insulting laptop cooling on the entire Apple line). For >3000 pounds. WTF! 🤪
I have an XPS 15 9750 and it's a nice laptop but so many little things frustrate me about it. Mainly the wifi card included. The Killer Wifi cards (which I heard they're still using in these new models) are terrible and randomly drop connections. Very annoying when I have to be in a conference call, watching a movie or doing some gaming. I've looked everywhere online and the only solution I've found is to replace it with an Intel card (which I simply do not want to do). I might have to look into an MBP 16 sometime down the line, and I'm interested in seeing what happens with the new Apple Silicon
@@kingdeedee dont forget that the upcoming 16 inch model will probably have mini led display which is going to have a huge impact in terms of general screen quality and battery life too
The only gentleman that I come across so far in tech reviews, very humble person. Nvr pointing fingers at anyone, always uses decent words with polite guestures. Perhaps those r some qualities of a good Englishman. Looking forward to see more contents.
Biggest problem with Dell was the missing end of line test :D I bought a Dell XPS 13' years ago. it arrived with the "D" and "E" Button not working, the speaker wasn't mounted and cracked when playing music and the "Enter" button stopped working from time to time... I was soo anoyed by these facts that i refunded my money and went for the macbook pro 13'. And i'm still happy with my decision! I also heard from two friends that they had similar problems with their xps (one 13' and one 15')
My XPS 17 has 4 different quality issues. 1. speakers are humming when laptop is on power adapter 2. left click only works roughly 50% of the time 3. high latency measured with latency mon 4. screen is changing brightness randomly (maybe the reason is software but didn't found it yet) It's such a beautiful and well build laptop but for this price point to many issues. My Macbook 16 was 100% ok. I am disappointed by Dell i have to say.
Overplays AceKing possibly the build quality itself, for example if the keyboard flexes when you press it hard, or maybe whether the screen lift the whole chassis when you open it.
The left click issue seems to be on a lot of new XPS 15/17 models where the track pad is loose. The build quality went down from the previous XPS 15 imo. I’ve had mine for a little over 2 years now and the hardware had zero issues brand new and they seem to hold up really well
@@CertifiedSlamboy Sorry... I am not native English :-) . I mean the chassis and screen, the look and the haptic. Everything you see from the outside. This is all very premium. But the components tell the truth... cheap stuff. Not worth 3.200 €. I just uploaded my benchmarks and issues. If you are interested have a look.
Of these two, I would go with the Dell XPS 17. I owned a Dell XPS in the past and was happy with it. If I had to purchase a laptop today, I would look for one with an AMD processor. I am impressed with their new CPU's!
It makes zero sense when there’s literally a 15 inch MacBook. He’s literally just trying to screw the results. Not to mention the 17 is about the same price as the 16 and the 15 is much cheaper. So dumb.
This was such a hard decision. I ended up going with the Macbook Pro 16 a few weeks ago. It mainly came down to Dell's quality control and reliability over these past few years. I'm sure I would have been happy with both!
quAdxify so well said! After years of having windows laptops, all of that has become increasingly clear. Beyond enterprise use and gaming, very true. When did you start with Mac and what has the progression been like throughout the years for you been like?
I've been a dell laptop user for almost 7 years (inspiron to xps). My only issue is always the same. After 2 years of using a dell laptop there could be a sticky liquid leaking located on the lower part of the screen near the hinge. When it comes to macbook pros, my issues are rubber lining and lcd panel. When the rubber lining is damaged; let's say due to heat during clamshell mode, using of alcohol near rubber lining, or screen protectors. There is a chance that dusts, small rocks, or small materials can be trapped near the location of the damaged rubber lining, and when you close the macbook it could damage lcd screen. First it will show black lines and then after a week it will be entirely black screen. This happened to me before, a small particle of my comb got stuck near the rubber lining and when I closed my macbook, it did permanently damaged the entire screen. Just want to point out that these are based on my experience. I don't have any intentions on discouraging anyone to buy these wonderful devices.
Thank you... I had just got the Dell XPS17 and watching you're video made me even happier with my decision. It's because I'm more of an Adobe Premiere user and also more familiar and comfortable with using PCs over MACs although I was just on the verge of switching to Mac due to they're Macbooks Pros and even the M1 chip and the fact that the M1X will be dropping soon as well. However, I still have to wait on that while I currently have projects I need to work on now. Not to mention it would take even more time once getting the M1X because it'll be a huge learning curve as well. I feel like I made the right decision now. Thanks for your post. 😎
Great review! Something that I'd love to see with performance benchmarks is to run the benchmarks on both AC power and battery power. Another RUclipsr did that last year and the results were really interesting. For those that don't directly need a desktop replacement, but do use their laptops on the go, that can be a bigger factor than you'd think from the outset
Great video again. Thanks. I thought the XPS screen looked far more detailed, better contrast and dealt with highlights so much better. But that defective speaker is a worry for the price.
Hi Tom, I got my XPS 17 a few days ago and two issues with it, of which one is maybe comparable to yours. My left speaker seems to be broken. It does play sound but very distorted, like the membrane has ripped. The sound via headphones is good though and I think you should have tested that, too. Second issue is my CPU fan, which only works occasionally. When it first turned on, I had a very high-pitched noise which was close to make me a bit dizzy, so I turned it off immediately and opened the chassis. Both fans are not obstructed mechanically and if you start the laptop while the bottom is removed it starts into diagnostics automatically. Just to find out "CPU fan not responding". I am having a Dell service engineer over very soon (since I don't want to wait another three weeks for delivery of a replacement device) who will replace both fan and speaker. But since that the fan works occasionally, I have the feeling the motherboard might be the root cause (hope not).
Hey! Great video! Please, I would like to see a video about Dell 15 VS Dell 17. I have a MBP 15 (mid 2014) and I'm planning on buying a new laptop very soon and it would be great to see more comparisons. Thanks
I ordered the XPS17 10min before your video went online. I was struggling between 15 and 17 as may are doing. I finally decided to go for the 17 with vapor chamber cooling and 6 Core 1650TI. My plan is that this combo is not only a little cheaper but also efficient. Less power which hopefully can be cooled reliable.
I've returned two Dell XPS 15 in the past for lousy quality control (a bad screen, and one that didn't boot up). I've never bought a Macbook Pro with a quality problem. Also, unplug both laptops from the power outlet and run the GPU tests again. Nice job and good luck getting your speaker fix.
Excellent review but a key thing you didn’t compare is battery v plugged in performance, something that is critical in laptops. This is where the MacBook shines with its lower power 5600M GPU.
Fantastic comparison! I'd go for the XPS 17 for the screen and performance in Premiere Pro. I do like the Apple's battery life, but I wonder how long the battery would last on the Dell at the same resolution setting as the Apple?
@@ejmb1992 changing resolution doesn't really increase battery life because the laptop is still powering the same amount of pixels. It only really matters in gpu intensive tasks where the gpu has to draw less pixels thus the gpu uses less power.
@@blinblinthing I have the MBP 16' and the thermal design is really good and it's so quite... I have Dell laptop from work with i7 U series and the fans are always working and it's so noisy and hot... Anyways I trust in PC world only three brands Apple, Microsoft and Razer.
@@blinblinthing So far on the Dell XPS line I've seen bad screens, bad trackpads, broken keys, bad speakers, dead on arrival units, webcams with artifacts and thermal throttling on the XPS 15 is a given. Dell's quality control is horrible, there is a good odd that if you buy one, you will end up with one that has something wrong.
Agreed Asami although I would say that the current MBP’s keyboard is a vast improvement over the dreaded butterfly effort of old. AppleCare is expensive but they do a great job of covering any defects, at least in my experience where as customer service from Dell....not so much.
Awesome video as usual. I love how you run lots of benchmarks but then break them down into simple data that we can easily understand. If you do do a XPS 15 vs 17 video, could you talk a little about fan noise and temperatures from the laptops when you put them through sustained loads? Like gaming or rendering. Whether they throttle?
Windows 10, build 2004 is the reason for the audio issue on almost all DELL laptops with intel cpu-s. Install build 1903 or 1909, and it will be okay. Insane thing, but true.
@@ddogthepimp 😂 so your saying no one absolutely no one uses headphones on iPhone 😂 what a load of poo !! I know plenty of people who still have an iPhone 6 preciously because it's still got a jack! Wireless buds and all that crap is just to get more money out of people. Fact is wired earphones and headphones sound ten times better than wireless ones !
@@cockapockets there's a dongle if you need. The quality is max 128kbps mp3 quality so there's no loss when using Bluetooth. The sound card in a MacBook is actually pretty good (considering it's designed for video editing/making music) so wired headphones actually make. Sense. Tell your poor friends to stop being poor and buy a new phone. Or get a galaxy s10 like me and only ever use the headphone jack for the aux in a car or party.
Steven Peacock Check your ears, bro. I’m an Android user and I still find people like you obnoxious. I don’t regret the jack on my S20 at all. I love the Galaxy Buds, both in terms of audio quality and convenience since I just take them out of the box and plug them in. I’d go with them any day than a $1000 corded headphones. Second, you sound like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Computers are used by people to do REAL jobs, including audio producing and video editing. Nobody does that shit on a phone. That’s why Apple still keeps their jack because a huge portion of their users rely on it. Simple as that.
The Dell XPS 17 ticks way more boxes as a light desktop replacement and also in terms of features and price; MBP 16 or look for something else if portability and autonomy are more important.
So refreshing to have a review where you have bought the units yourself, rather than the usual free review units that most RUclips’rs use, and are then biased in my opinion.
I would go with the MacBook Pro, since you can get 8 GB of Video with the AMD 5600 M, 64 GB Of Ram, up to 8 TB of SSD, and the T2 Security chip and Apple's Secure oriented Safari. I am also a fan of Apple Computers, and looking forward to the MacOS this Fall. I don't have one yet, but I am waiting to see what they come up with on the 2020 models. I am still deciding whether to go with an I-Mac or a MacBook Pro. I already have an I-Phone and an I-Pod Classic (A Christmas Present many years ago, but it is still working).
I switched from a long time Dell user to the MBP 16”. It’s a very well designed and consistent device, and I couldn’t be happier with my purchase. I’m pretty sure you’d be happy with either laptop. I chose the MacBook because I wanted to try something different, and it doesn’t fail to satisfy me.
Man if you're spending that much on the MacBook it's hard not to get 32gb...still though yes a $7,000 video deserves at least a like and a sub; lol I agree with that (though I've been sub'd to this channel since you were at 30k subs, and your channel has just gotten better and better over time).
The Rolls Royce and Bentley of laptops, with price tags to match. As a pauper I had to settle for the LG Gram 17, which has the edge over both as it is light enough to use as a frisbee.
for a stand-alone work laptop, the XPS wins, but because of the use of other Apple devices, I would choose the mac just for how easy the setup and sync is. People may argue it that you can sync on windows, but it just isn't the same, I've tried
Got my first XPS 15 in May 2016, just to found out that the screen started flickering in horizontal lines months later. Got my screen replaced THREE TIMES by Dell (in Oct 16, June 17 then July 17) with the exact same problem. Then I still got that annoying lines and idk if I want to get the fourth replacement since the warranty is already ended years ago. So, until now just stick to my flickering old XPS til i got more money to get rid of it and buy the REAL “worth-to-buy” laptop. Thanks, DELL. What a nice experience 🙃🙃🙃
Brilliant comparison between some great laptops! Personally I’ll go for the MacBook cuz I love the minimal simple yet aesthetic design but the XPS looks quite good as well. Also it’d be great if you can do some reviews on some of the new gaming laptops that have come out recently like the legion 5 and nitro 5 cuz I really do admire the style of your reviews!
Great video as per usual mate! Love watching your reviews, up there with Dave2D for me. Any chance you’ll be getting the new HP Envy in for a review? Very limited content out there at the moment for it but it looks like a fair response to the XPS 15 from HP
Hello, I've been whatching all your videos on XPS (15 new and old, 17) and Macbook pro 16" and liked them a lot! I have a question on the heating issue: on the XPS 15, you highlighted that the temperature could reach almost 100°C when the CPU is under stress (computing or video editing). Did DELL solved that problem on the 17? What about the Macbook pro in the same situation? Is the heating acceptable? Thanks in advance for your reply. I still do not know which one to buy :)
Thank you for answering the question that editors have been asking for years: Which laptop runs Premiere Pro better, Mac or Windows PC? The answer has usually been Windows PC until Adobe optimized Premiere on Metal. But it looks like Nvidia CUDA is back with a vengeance; that is until you unplug both laptops from the power outlet, then the XPS is going to lose a lot of its performance, while the Macbook Pro stays the same.
That's how life usually is, the more capable GPU needs more power to do it. Also let's remember a laptop isn't a smartphone. You aren't going to be randomly using it in a car, a bank,a store or while walking. You'll likely have access to an outlet majority of the times you'd be using the laptop.
I still have my Dell xps 9570,I have the i7 16gb ram 256gbM.2 with 4k touch display. I still enjoy using it but only down side is it seems the battery is slowly going out. Even with switching the screen resolution to 1080p i still only get 3 hrs tops. Once the new 17in is cheaper in about 2 years i plan on buying it. Never been a big fan on mac even though i repair macs for my job lol.
i feel like for the performance aspect, the dell deserves a win because across most of the category, it takes the cake by quite a significant margin. while the MBP is close in some cases and wins in a few, overall you cannot deny that the XPS outperforms it by quite a bit
People use to praise Macbooks for being better at a significant price premium. Today, we have competitors besting the Macbook for less money, yet those competitors get far less fanfare.
It does not matter. As he says the performance difference is likely too small to matter in everyday use and if performance would be that important you likely would fare better by using cloud infra and doing the heavy lifting there anyways. It's not that one of them play in an entirely different league performance wise.
underrated for the dell is upgradeable memory, and 2 upgradeable internal ssds, true touch and stylus support, Nvidia support, Sd card, 4K+ super sharp screen, lower repair cost, face id and touch id, hundreds if not a $1000 saved if equipped the same. Safer future buy with new cpus, and no worry of Dell going to Arm processors and abandoning intel anytime soon.
I've seen these compared before and side-by-side, the displays are showing very different colours. The XPS seems to have a magenta cast while the Macbook has a green one. I'm not sure how they can both be considered so colour accurate when they're glaringly different from each other.
Great video, thanks I’m on the fence to buy my first laptop for photography editing, Lightroom and photoshop. I have the budget for either one. Just can’t make up my mind.
You didn't address what would be one of the most important considerations: using Mac OS vs Windows. I have both laptop platforms but would never select Windows over the Mac OS. Nearly every day I encounter something on my Windows (Lenovo) laptop that needs addressing. That happens to me with my MacBook Pro one tenth as often.
Someone were blowing that compressed air into that Dell... but really software or hardware, they gonna need to patch it ASAP. Until then, saving up for MacBook Pro.
Both of these laptops are great but there are just a few small things holding them back - one the Dell side, some of the recent QA/QC issues are alarming - namely, the wobbly trackpad, some displays with dead pixels being shipped, and reported battery drain while plugged in on higher load tasks (might be a deal breaker for some workloads). One other one for me is that there is no version with AMD chips which would be amazing given their higher price-to-performance this gen. On the Macbook pro side, its the higher cost of the device paired with the expectation of better performing and cheaper ARM-chip Macbook Pros coming in a year or two. Non upgradable parts is annoying too (although this is likely something you have to live with for all Non-Mac pro devices in the future). I would say, wait for the next gen for both of these devices if you can as there are major positive catalysts for improved performance on both ends - Dell: better QA/QC, potential for AMD chips (probably cheaper too), much better GPUs on the horizon with Big Navi and Ampere; MBP: ARM chips (potentially cheaper) and Big Navi GPUs.
Many thanks for the helpful review. I am a Windows user, who thinks that the Mac will be the future after sorting out its own silicon processors. Would you agree with that? And, did you move to XPS 17 as you were contemplating? I would love to see XPS 15 17 comparison. Thanks again
I do think making their own processors will be their tomb. You cannot be the best on chip desing, software design, hardware design all at the same time. Fighting android, fighting windows, fighting nvidia, intel, amd, even dell or many other integrators...even adobe and microsoft office... or microsoft direct x... you simply can't win, even if you manage to be the best on all those aspects for some years. They went up when they abandoned their own risk architecture and go for intel. They will go down now imho. Look at the macbook now, overpriced, underpowered. Look at the iphones, overpriced, old fashioned designs. Look at the absurdly overpriced mac pro... Look at the software available (adobe), even games... ¡even office suites! all them much better in windows and coming from third parties... they are already going down ...the ganius is not here anymore.
@@apf14378 thanks for your opinion. I never used a Mac, but find it promising that they will be able to design all the components while others will rely on intel and etc. It seems like the difference between making your pasta at home and buying it from supermarket. Thanks anyway
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Hey Chaps! Which would you go for XPS or MBP?? 👉 Quick Update: uninstalling the realtek audio drivers then downloading latest ones from Dell's website has fixed my audio issue.
If I could afford either.....the XPS 17 seems to be such an attractive option! 😎
Never Apple, terrible company.
Neither, I can't afford them 😂😂😂
AMAZING VIDEO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS CONCISE AND CLEAN. Can you please do xps15 vs xps 17 now ??? Please.. thanks tech chap!
Asus studiobook
Love watching expensive things I can’t afford 😂😂😂
Same here
Then work for it rather than watching
You are cute
Jo Kensy you sound like an entitled 7th grader who’s parents by them everything
Jo Kensy if that were true surely you’d know different people come from different financial situations where even if they do work hard in school they’re still screwed over later
Dell really has big problem of quality control, and that's not acceptable considering the price you pay. Looking good is not enough, you need to deliver too. I like the XPS line, but I really worry to get a bad unit...
Many also complaint about the touchpad creaking
Why not just do a return? I've seen reviewers say they'd be returning their Apple products also. The butterfly keyboard etc.
My XPS 15 does not have the trackpad issue
The trackpad issues are really disappointing given the price that you have to pay
Cool, loved the comparison.
Do you know, if they plan to update the XPS 2 in 1 - that is my area of interest right now, as a mature aged student.
i wish youtubers included scientific computing and deep learning in their benchmarks... not everyone is video editing or gaming.
What i wanted to say 😊.
thats a great suggestion 😄
What are some examples of scientific computing and deep learning tools that would be used?
@@CuriousAndCuriouser1865 Some scipy matrix operations, training some models with PyTorch.. stuff like that
@@UnbenutzerKanalname can't you do that efficiently using an entry level laptop..? Just asking
Actually buying the retail versions of both machines out of your own money was such a sign of commitment on your part, that you really earned the subscription and the like that I've now given you! Keep up the great work!
Yes, to a Dell 15 v 17, as I'm still trying to make up my mind.
Go for 17, the vapor chamber is irresistible.
@@DiaperTai Also a better GPU
YES PLEASE
Wish the XPS 15 had that 2060 and vapour chamber.
@@DiaperTai Seems like the logical thing to do, the only thing going about the XPS 15 is how compact it is .
The most underrated part of any MacBook IMO is that they run as well off battery power as they do when they're plugged in. That's very important, especially for someone on the go. I learned the hard way when I bought a surface pro 4 several years ago that even that thin and light device with no dedicated graphics ran poorly off battery power and just fine when plugged in.
If you don't care about the battery and need it then yes.
Agree 100%
Hu? You know you can choose high performance even not plugged in on windows? Especially on my surface pro 7.
@@Natsukashii1111 Probably he is a Mac user so doesn't know the basic of Windows
You are totally wrong as well as the other idiots upvoting you.
In 5 years Dell has a resale value of 300$ & the macbook 2000$. In Switzerland the 2015 i7 16GB 512GB MBP 13 sells for 750-1200$.
esp with no updates due to ARM yeah. sure its going to be the last intel based gen but the OS will be deprecated as a result, so what's the point? doubt it will hold value that well.
I got in around 2015 a MacBook Pro 2010 (one of the best notebook at its time and without dramatical failures like the 2011+ GPU failures.) for 400$, the owner even replaced the battery at apple before he sold it. Still working awesome in 2020, got like 3 weeks ago also a new battery (Yanec, damn awesome batteries, +400mAh/6Wh compared to original battery)
I dont know why so many people still believe used apple products are so expensive, they are not, you only have to find a nice deal, which is hard to find since some Mac users even try to resell their 1-2 year old MacBook for like 80% of the original value to get "for cheap" the newer model. I found so many like 3-5 year old macs, working ofc for cheap, especially from the users which hate the overheating/soldered SSDs and the bullsh*t apple is doing to prevent the users from fixing their own "Pro" products.
Thats why i even say the newer MacBook Pros dont deserve to be called Pro... any professional usecase will include:
- service, which is some sort of impossible at apple machines
- data recovery, say hello to the T2 chip and soldered SSDs, data recovery is going to be impossible
- battery swaps/Ram upgrades.... something you should consider in a "Pro" product....
With this facts in mind, the last MacBook "Pros" were made in around 2013, newer MBPs are not "Pro" anymore, only some kind of nice looking notebook with decent performance. Therefor, the prices are dropping faster compared to older Macs. But yes, still very often overpriced.
Kokainarienv0gel yeah I upgraded my 2012 MacBook Pro with a terabyte ssd and it’s like working with a brand new laptop!
Do people buy laptops (or any tech for that matter) based on resale value though? At least personally I don't consider that too heavily when I'm purchasing a device.
@@0xC272 I agree that we do not buy a laptop for resale value, but it's great to know that when you're ready for an upgrade, you can actually get value out of it. Like the MacBook Air 2012 I own, it performs today like I bought it yesterday, and if I wanted to sell it, the price (8 years later) for a used one trends at $450-$500. So if I wanted to buy the newer $1,000 MacBook Air, I could save $500; that's half the price. Fair?
if that xps15 had a ryzen 4000 it would be the closest thing to perfection
But it will lack tb3 which I don't think it will happen unless they have an agreement with intel or replace it with usb4.
@@hunterma2589
95% people buying this don't need tb3
@@MidnightBloomDev That's what you think. A lot of big tech companies like Dell and Apple have such an obsession with tb3, plus at this price point I do see tb3 accessories being useful.
@@hunterma2589
I'm computer science student with few contracts completed. No one cares about tb3
@@MidnightBloomDev Again, it's those big tech companies that have obsessions with tb3. Even though it might not be useful, I just don't see Dell and Apple removing tb3.
If Dell puts AMD Ryzen into the XPS series soon they’ll really start to make this a viable option to the MacBook Pro.
Along with fixing their QC issues.
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou This MBP will probably host a ARM chip no sooner that the next 5 years
@@Lu-ql5tj 2 years for the entire product line to be transitioned, did you miss something?
@@Lu-ql5tj The transition will be done in 2 years, where did you get that 5 years figure from?
Truth.
@@Pipsispite Lol remember this
There's an 80% chance that your XPS will come with a serious defect... I'm speaking from experience
Small sample size, in all fairness to Dell. Even then, every laptop brand will have defective models. Go look at a HP or Lenovo subreddit.
@-- Ye, it's why in most big tech companies offices are filled with ThinkPads (running Linux) and MacBooks. If you have to rely on that tech and have to pay your employees significant wages, any downtime due those devices failing costs you quite a large amount of money, more than the initially higher investment. I think IBM even released some numbers regarding MacOS and Windows laptops and found that MacBooks amortized themselves big time over the years, if you factor tech support and down-time into the equation.
I’ve had my XOS 17 for about a month now. Still see no defects, it came perfect for me lol
true, my xps 13's (2 in 1) touch doesn't work sometimes so I have to restart it to have it work
War Titan I’ve ordered an XPS 15 so I hope mine comes good too lol
3:24 this is how NASA give names to newly discovered planets
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To funny 😄
Spend 2,900 on a laptop & the speakers go like that smh. Not looking good Dell
@Shreshta Jaiswal defective piece? a whole speaker? had 16 inch MBP for a while now and never any problems, so glad i went with it
@@DjscratchHD I never get these fanboys... There are defective Apple units too and quite a few. Both brands are great, defective units just happen.
@xOr lool nothings my problem have fun with your return process! ill enjoy my problem free MacBook
@@Hellios92 fan boy? you know nothing about me, I own more windows devices than apple so shut your mouth. I not saying both brands aren't great. Im just saying if I'm paying almost 3k, the speakers better work, and they better work well.
@Emad Ahmed u get outta here and buy a defective laptop buddy
For the sound issue
Go into device manager
Open sound controllers
Open Realtek Audio properties
Check for updates or even choose drivers on your computer by selecting "Browse my computer for driver software" and clicking on "Let me pick from a list..."
There's nothing wrong with the hardware of your speakers, just a software issue
That fixed it for me :)
Oh me try that
@@Thetechchap u fixed that ?
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou watch short circuit(LTT's channel), the speakers are compared alongside the 16 inch MacBook Pro.
The xps 15 is the perfect size. Love how small it is for a 15'
And here in Japan is we still can’t get 10875H 8 cores CPU, and Nvidia 2060... damn it! Why dell Japan don’t want my money! Great video!
Ilko Allexandroff I guess they trying to sell old stock.
Yes, I hate that! Dell Japan always has limited configurations. I'd like to buy the 64GB RAM but not available it here as well!!!
@@fpaivinha Well, if performance is all you want, I would highly recommend you to max out only CPU and GPU then upgrade the ram yourself since they are upgradable and will save you a ton in this way.
Here in India we still can't get Acer Helios 300 till date. xD
Here in indonesia we cant still able to buy new xps 13 15 17 2020.... sad indo..
I never understand why can't we get 2K display on Windows laptops? With current technology we have, personally I think 2K is the sweet spot between screen quality and battery life. 4K barely gets any improvement on laptops at normal distance but kills battery significantly.
Emad Ahmed Macbook is better
@@ximanuz3986 xps 17 is better
1440p Kills my S9 battery compared to 1080p
If you mean 1080p, you can display 1080p in 4k screen with integer scaling. It should look the same
some Random Krunker guy idc im buying a mac
We really gotta appreciate this man’s dedication to his channel, you’ve grown quite a lot in RUclips. Great comparison!
I got the MBP 16 and I absolutely love it. It's my first Apple product (not counting an iPod nano). I'm a grad student and my research requires lots of coding, so having 8 cores 16 threads for parallel jobs, a unix OS, and fantastic gestures for multitasking make it perfect. There were times when a class assignment took >10 minutes on my friends computers, but took me a minute once parallelized. I've previously had to dual boot windows and linux mint, or get ubuntu on windows which has it's own problems, but with mac OS, I don't need linux. The speakers and microphone are outstanding and I've never had such large battery life on a laptop. The graphics can easily handle 3D modeling software like Fusion 360 and you can tell Apple notices what their customers are doing cause you can natively view 3D .stl models in finder. The screen color temperature auto adjusts to your room so well that you'll not want to go back to your windows displays (which are either slightly blue, or really yellow in night mode). I set up bootcamp, and sadly a few features of the touchbar don't seem to work there, but it's otherwise perfectly fine. I was able to run COD WW2 with medium settings at the max 60 fps, although COD can't be a great experience at 60 fps IMO. The keyboard is very quick and responsive. The laptop does run quite hot when doing any intensive task, and of course I would have preferred having internal access to the ram and storage like you do with many Windows laptops, but that wasn't gonna happen with Apple.
I will say that if you're not planning on making use of the multitasking or coding-friendly features of Mac OS, or if you plan on actually gaming with it, you should probably save money and get a Windows machine with NVIDIA graphics.
Hi Tom, I left a comment on your previous video about the quiet sound issue, now this video sounds obviously louder, at least in my devices. That helps a lot. Thank you!
A video on both the XPS 15 and 17 would be great. I'm on the fence on which one to get.
17 would be better choice I am selling my 2017 XPS 15 to get the new 17 it's very compact for a 17 model 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
I would say get the xps 15. It is much more portable. If you are looking for processing power, you can get a desktop instead or even invest in an egpu.
I was struggling with the same decision, went for the XPS15 in the end. No quality control issues like many people have reported, guess I got a good one haha. Posted an unboxing and initial impressions video if you're interested!
Typical Dell Quality control right there!
Mystic yeah it is kinda sad
I think Razer Blade Pro is better
At least it has decent disipation. That's why the mbp falls down on tests and exporting tasks. Feels very snappy doing regular things ("macbook" things). But when you go for the "pro" things... that "quality" design is not there. Just looking cool (and the 16 model is the only non-insulting laptop cooling on the entire Apple line). For >3000 pounds. WTF! 🤪
I have an XPS 15 9750 and it's a nice laptop but so many little things frustrate me about it. Mainly the wifi card included. The Killer Wifi cards (which I heard they're still using in these new models) are terrible and randomly drop connections. Very annoying when I have to be in a conference call, watching a movie or doing some gaming. I've looked everywhere online and the only solution I've found is to replace it with an Intel card (which I simply do not want to do). I might have to look into an MBP 16 sometime down the line, and I'm interested in seeing what happens with the new Apple Silicon
@@kingdeedee dont forget that the upcoming 16 inch model will probably have mini led display which is going to have a huge impact in terms of general screen quality and battery life too
The only gentleman that I come across so far in tech reviews, very humble person. Nvr pointing fingers at anyone, always uses decent words with polite guestures. Perhaps those r some qualities of a good Englishman. Looking forward to see more contents.
Biggest problem with Dell was the missing end of line test :D
I bought a Dell XPS 13' years ago. it arrived with the "D" and "E" Button not working, the speaker wasn't mounted and cracked when playing music and the "Enter" button stopped working from time to time...
I was soo anoyed by these facts that i refunded my money and went for the macbook pro 13'.
And i'm still happy with my decision!
I also heard from two friends that they had similar problems with their xps (one 13' and one 15')
My XPS 17 has 4 different quality issues.
1. speakers are humming when laptop is on power adapter
2. left click only works roughly 50% of the time
3. high latency measured with latency mon
4. screen is changing brightness randomly (maybe the reason is software but didn't found it yet)
It's such a beautiful and well build laptop but for this price point to many issues. My Macbook 16 was 100% ok. I am disappointed by Dell i have to say.
How do you say "well built" laptop after listing those issues?
Or do you mean something else by that?
Overplays AceKing possibly the build quality itself, for example if the keyboard flexes when you press it hard, or maybe whether the screen lift the whole chassis when you open it.
The screen changing brightness randomly is an option in your bios. Check there, you should fine an option to turn it off.
The left click issue seems to be on a lot of new XPS 15/17 models where the track pad is loose. The build quality went down from the previous XPS 15 imo. I’ve had mine for a little over 2 years now and the hardware had zero issues brand new and they seem to hold up really well
@@CertifiedSlamboy Sorry... I am not native English :-) . I mean the chassis and screen, the look and the haptic. Everything you see from the outside. This is all very premium. But the components tell the truth... cheap stuff. Not worth 3.200 €. I just uploaded my benchmarks and issues. If you are interested have a look.
Of these two, I would go with the Dell XPS 17. I owned a Dell XPS in the past and was happy with it. If I had to purchase a laptop today, I would look for one with an AMD processor. I am impressed with their new CPU's!
AMD- no thunderbolt port
The taller screen on the Dell sells it for me. I love how good the speakers are on a Macbook, though.
What are you talking about? They have the same aspect ratio.
i like macbook webcam the dell one make your face weird also i love the MacOS
there's an Aussie guy on another channel that insists on comparing the MBP16 with the XPS15, glad you've done the comparison here.
Woof
Tally Ho Tech?
@@toymachine meow
It makes zero sense when there’s literally a 15 inch MacBook. He’s literally just trying to screw the results. Not to mention the 17 is about the same price as the 16 and the 15 is much cheaper. So dumb.
I'd like to see a three way comparison between these two and the xps 15 with more real world benchmarks
I had a similar sound issue on my old Dell. It was corrected by formatting Windows and doing a fresh install.
This was such a hard decision. I ended up going with the Macbook Pro 16 a few weeks ago. It mainly came down to Dell's quality control and reliability over these past few years. I'm sure I would have been happy with both!
quAdxify so well said! After years of having windows laptops, all of that has become increasingly clear. Beyond enterprise use and gaming, very true. When did you start with Mac and what has the progression been like throughout the years for you been like?
I've been a dell laptop user for almost 7 years (inspiron to xps). My only issue is always the same. After 2 years of using a dell laptop there could be a sticky liquid leaking located on the lower part of the screen near the hinge. When it comes to macbook pros, my issues are rubber lining and lcd panel. When the rubber lining is damaged; let's say due to heat during clamshell mode, using of alcohol near rubber lining, or screen protectors. There is a chance that dusts, small rocks, or small materials can be trapped near the location of the damaged rubber lining, and when you close the macbook it could damage lcd screen. First it will show black lines and then after a week it will be entirely black screen. This happened to me before, a small particle of my comb got stuck near the rubber lining and when I closed my macbook, it did permanently damaged the entire screen. Just want to point out that these are based on my experience. I don't have any intentions on discouraging anyone to buy these wonderful devices.
Hey Guys I'm Tom a Tech Chap this brings a smile every time
It's *The* Tech Chap. Not some random chap you'll see on the street
@@marksilla8276 Ok Boomer
We all seem to be missing "hey guys, this is Austin" 😭😭😭😭
@@timothymcwilliams5390 It was a joke bro.
Awesome comparison. I would go for the Dell xps 17 because of the stunning looking screen and the performance.
Thank you... I had just got the Dell XPS17 and watching you're video made me even happier with my decision. It's because I'm more of an Adobe Premiere user and also more familiar and comfortable with using PCs over MACs although I was just on the verge of switching to Mac due to they're Macbooks Pros and even the M1 chip and the fact that the M1X will be dropping soon as well. However, I still have to wait on that while I currently have projects I need to work on now. Not to mention it would take even more time once getting the M1X because it'll be a huge learning curve as well. I feel like I made the right decision now. Thanks for your post. 😎
Great review! Something that I'd love to see with performance benchmarks is to run the benchmarks on both AC power and battery power. Another RUclipsr did that last year and the results were really interesting. For those that don't directly need a desktop replacement, but do use their laptops on the go, that can be a bigger factor than you'd think from the outset
Do a vid about dell xps 15 vs 17 plz
Great video again. Thanks. I thought the XPS screen looked far more detailed, better contrast and dealt with highlights so much better. But that defective speaker is a worry for the price.
Congrats for being the first to upload a 2020 Dell XPS 17 video in my feed.
Hi Tom,
I got my XPS 17 a few days ago and two issues with it, of which one is maybe comparable to yours. My left speaker seems to be broken. It does play sound but very distorted, like the membrane has ripped. The sound via headphones is good though and I think you should have tested that, too.
Second issue is my CPU fan, which only works occasionally. When it first turned on, I had a very high-pitched noise which was close to make me a bit dizzy, so I turned it off immediately and opened the chassis. Both fans are not obstructed mechanically and if you start the laptop while the bottom is removed it starts into diagnostics automatically. Just to find out "CPU fan not responding".
I am having a Dell service engineer over very soon (since I don't want to wait another three weeks for delivery of a replacement device) who will replace both fan and speaker. But since that the fan works occasionally, I have the feeling the motherboard might be the root cause (hope not).
Good to hear your experiences!
Hey! Great video! Please, I would like to see a video about Dell 15 VS Dell 17. I have a MBP 15 (mid 2014) and I'm planning on buying a new laptop very soon and it would be great to see more comparisons. Thanks
but macbook come with terrible keyboard
I ordered the XPS17 10min before your video went online. I was struggling between 15 and 17 as may are doing. I finally decided to go for the 17 with vapor chamber cooling and 6 Core 1650TI. My plan is that this combo is not only a little cheaper but also efficient. Less power which hopefully can be cooled reliable.
Man, jus wanna say I like your videos because they are not biased, you jus compare and say things as they are. Keep up the good work man.
Dell XPS for life! I have the old 15" 9570 and I can't wait the opportunity to upgrade with this new model *-*
Hey Tom, can you do a video on relatively cheap laptops that have a 16:10 aspect ratio?
Does such a thing exist?!
my 2006 dell inspiron e1505 has a 16:10 aspect ratio and i pulled it from the trash
Tech Chap's content feels premium!! Loved it!!
I've returned two Dell XPS 15 in the past for lousy quality control (a bad screen, and one that didn't boot up). I've never bought a Macbook Pro with a quality problem. Also, unplug both laptops from the power outlet and run the GPU tests again. Nice job and good luck getting your speaker fix.
Mind boggling to see a intergraded webcam like this on a 2020 premium device.
ikr, with all the video conferencing, you'd think they would work on the webcams.
At least the Macbook webcam was somewhat usable that XPS camera was just tragic.
@@MissMartianDCAU neither was usable. your fanboy is showing.
Yes, you heard him right, He turned it on and off again.
Nice touch.
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Great comparison as always Tom! Also would love to see the comparison between the 15 inch and the 17 inch Dell models!
Very well done video... Thank you!
Excellent review but a key thing you didn’t compare is battery v plugged in performance, something that is critical in laptops. This is where the MacBook shines with its lower power 5600M GPU.
Fantastic comparison! I'd go for the XPS 17 for the screen and performance in Premiere Pro. I do like the Apple's battery life, but I wonder how long the battery would last on the Dell at the same resolution setting as the Apple?
That's a very valid question....
Could a battery test be shown with both screens at around 1440p?
I'm sure the battery duration will be similar
U can jxt go for a similar resolution on the dell. And i hope that will increase the battery
@@ejmb1992 changing resolution doesn't really increase battery life because the laptop is still powering the same amount of pixels. It only really matters in gpu intensive tasks where the gpu has to draw less pixels thus the gpu uses less power.
@@charlesdomain9196 the GPU is drawing less pixels. The display should just be stretching a lower resolution image if I'm not mistaken.
@@blinblinthing Yeah
It’s the MVP for me every time.......I’ve had graphical issues with dell in the past and your speaker issue highlights dell’s poor quality control
Is that a manufacturer or from Dell? Also we've seen issues from Apple before. Poor thermal designs, keyboard reliability etc.
@@blinblinthing I have the MBP 16' and the thermal design is really good and it's so quite... I have Dell laptop from work with i7 U series and the fans are always working and it's so noisy and hot... Anyways I trust in PC world only three brands Apple, Microsoft and Razer.
@@blinblinthing So far on the Dell XPS line I've seen bad screens, bad trackpads, broken keys, bad speakers, dead on arrival units, webcams with artifacts and thermal throttling on the XPS 15 is a given. Dell's quality control is horrible, there is a good odd that if you buy one, you will end up with one that has something wrong.
Agreed Asami although I would say that the current MBP’s keyboard is a vast improvement over the dreaded butterfly effort of old. AppleCare is expensive but they do a great job of covering any defects, at least in my experience where as customer service from Dell....not so much.
Awesome video as usual. I love how you run lots of benchmarks but then break them down into simple data that we can easily understand. If you do do a XPS 15 vs 17 video, could you talk a little about fan noise and temperatures from the laptops when you put them through sustained loads? Like gaming or rendering. Whether they throttle?
Windows 10, build 2004 is the reason for the audio issue on almost all DELL laptops with intel cpu-s. Install build 1903 or 1909, and it will be okay. Insane thing, but true.
Wow great comparison!
Great Video Tom! Always glad when you upload!
I will go with Macbook Pro 16 every time, best trackpad, best speakers, same performance even when unplugged.
Great video. Please make a comparison of the 15 and 17. Thanks
Tim crook still hasn't had the "COURAGE" to remove the head phone jack from the MacBook then 😂
They tried, I think. There was a survey asking users if they used the port 🤦♂️
people who use iPhones don't use headphones. people who use mac books especially for work absolutely do. its as simple as that.
@@ddogthepimp 😂 so your saying no one absolutely no one uses headphones on iPhone 😂 what a load of poo !! I know plenty of people who still have an iPhone 6 preciously because it's still got a jack! Wireless buds and all that crap is just to get more money out of people. Fact is wired earphones and headphones sound ten times better than wireless ones !
@@cockapockets there's a dongle if you need. The quality is max 128kbps mp3 quality so there's no loss when using Bluetooth. The sound card in a MacBook is actually pretty good (considering it's designed for video editing/making music) so wired headphones actually make. Sense. Tell your poor friends to stop being poor and buy a new phone. Or get a galaxy s10 like me and only ever use the headphone jack for the aux in a car or party.
Steven Peacock Check your ears, bro. I’m an Android user and I still find people like you obnoxious. I don’t regret the jack on my S20 at all. I love the Galaxy Buds, both in terms of audio quality and convenience since I just take them out of the box and plug them in. I’d go with them any day than a $1000 corded headphones.
Second, you sound like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Computers are used by people to do REAL jobs, including audio producing and video editing. Nobody does that shit on a phone. That’s why Apple still keeps their jack because a huge portion of their users rely on it. Simple as that.
8:50 tells everything.
The Dell XPS 17 ticks way more boxes as a light desktop replacement and also in terms of features and price; MBP 16 or look for something else if portability and autonomy are more important.
So refreshing to have a review where you have bought the units yourself, rather than the usual free review units that most RUclips’rs use, and are then biased in my opinion.
The reason I'd prefer MB is the MacOs, but apart of OS the Dell-book seems tasty.
Love you Tom and thanks for great content. The XPS 17 is an absolute beast.
I would go with the MacBook Pro, since you can get 8 GB of Video with the AMD 5600 M, 64 GB Of Ram, up to 8 TB of SSD, and the T2 Security chip and Apple's Secure oriented Safari. I am also a fan of Apple Computers, and looking forward to the MacOS this Fall. I don't have one yet, but I am waiting to see what they come up with on the 2020 models. I am still deciding whether to go with an I-Mac or a MacBook Pro. I already have an I-Phone and an I-Pod Classic (A Christmas Present many years ago, but it is still working).
I switched from a long time Dell user to the MBP 16”. It’s a very well designed and consistent device, and I couldn’t be happier with my purchase. I’m pretty sure you’d be happy with either laptop. I chose the MacBook because I wanted to try something different, and it doesn’t fail to satisfy me.
Man if you're spending that much on the MacBook it's hard not to get 32gb...still though yes a $7,000 video deserves at least a like and a sub; lol I agree with that (though I've been sub'd to this channel since you were at 30k subs, and your channel has just gotten better and better over time).
The Rolls Royce and Bentley of laptops, with price tags to match. As a pauper I had to settle for the
LG Gram 17, which has the edge over both as it is light enough to use as a frisbee.
and has disastrous battery life
Lol
@@waqasome 12 hours easily, up to 16 with light use.
@@garethhanna9173 that's a really long battery life😳
Nothing beats MBP ))
for a stand-alone work laptop, the XPS wins, but because of the use of other Apple devices, I would choose the mac just for how easy the setup and sync is. People may argue it that you can sync on windows, but it just isn't the same, I've tried
Got my first XPS 15 in May 2016, just to found out that the screen started flickering in horizontal lines months later. Got my screen replaced THREE TIMES by Dell (in Oct 16, June 17 then July 17) with the exact same problem. Then I still got that annoying lines and idk if I want to get the fourth replacement since the warranty is already ended years ago. So, until now just stick to my flickering old XPS til i got more money to get rid of it and buy the REAL “worth-to-buy” laptop. Thanks, DELL. What a nice experience 🙃🙃🙃
Brilliant comparison between some great laptops! Personally I’ll go for the MacBook cuz I love the minimal simple yet aesthetic design but the XPS looks quite good as well. Also it’d be great if you can do some reviews on some of the new gaming laptops that have come out recently like the legion 5 and nitro 5 cuz I really do admire the style of your reviews!
Great video as per usual mate! Love watching your reviews, up there with Dave2D for me. Any chance you’ll be getting the new HP Envy in for a review? Very limited content out there at the moment for it but it looks like a fair response to the XPS 15 from HP
Should be soon!
Hello, I've been whatching all your videos on XPS (15 new and old, 17) and Macbook pro 16" and liked them a lot! I have a question on the heating issue: on the XPS 15, you highlighted that the temperature could reach almost 100°C when the CPU is under stress (computing or video editing). Did DELL solved that problem on the 17? What about the Macbook pro in the same situation? Is the heating acceptable? Thanks in advance for your reply. I still do not know which one to buy :)
I returned XPS and got MBP16! BEST DECISION EVER.
Thank you for answering the question that editors have been asking for years: Which laptop runs Premiere Pro better, Mac or Windows PC? The answer has usually been Windows PC until Adobe optimized Premiere on Metal. But it looks like Nvidia CUDA is back with a vengeance; that is until you unplug both laptops from the power outlet, then the XPS is going to lose a lot of its performance, while the Macbook Pro stays the same.
That's how life usually is, the more capable GPU needs more power to do it. Also let's remember a laptop isn't a smartphone. You aren't going to be randomly using it in a car, a bank,a store or while walking. You'll likely have access to an outlet majority of the times you'd be using the laptop.
just use Final Cut babie
Asarni Thomas at school when you’re sitting in your living room?
can you do a Battery drain test on both of the laptops ??? i would really appreciate that 😇
Yes please! I've got an XPS 17 with the same config an just hitting the CPU with 100% already drains the battery 😢
One of my new favorite tech reviewers on YT! Glad I discovered you good sir. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
I still have my Dell xps 9570,I have the i7 16gb ram 256gbM.2 with 4k touch display. I still enjoy using it but only down side is it seems the battery is slowly going out. Even with switching the screen resolution to 1080p i still only get 3 hrs tops. Once the new 17in is cheaper in about 2 years i plan on buying it. Never been a big fan on mac even though i repair macs for my job lol.
i feel like for the performance aspect, the dell deserves a win because across most of the category, it takes the cake by quite a significant margin. while the MBP is close in some cases and wins in a few, overall you cannot deny that the XPS outperforms it by quite a bit
People use to praise Macbooks for being better at a significant price premium. Today, we have competitors besting the Macbook for less money, yet those competitors get far less fanfare.
@@conchobar Yet the Macbooks are soon going to be far better that its competitors by switching to its own ARM chips instead of x86_64 Intel ones
@@conchobar name one ultraportable on the same price range as the MBP taht braets it. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
This is true, but this is due to the fact that the Dell is using 10th gen chips, and the Mac is using 9th gen
It does not matter. As he says the performance difference is likely too small to matter in everyday use and if performance would be that important you likely would fare better by using cloud infra and doing the heavy lifting there anyways. It's not that one of them play in an entirely different league performance wise.
underrated for the dell is upgradeable memory, and 2 upgradeable internal ssds, true touch and stylus support, Nvidia support, Sd card, 4K+ super sharp screen, lower repair cost, face id and touch id, hundreds if not a $1000 saved if equipped the same.
Safer future buy with new cpus, and no worry of Dell going to Arm processors and abandoning intel anytime soon.
When I asked Dell, they said their touchscreens don't work with a stylus pen. Are getting one to work with the XPS?
One of the best MBP16 & XPS17 head to head comparison I have ever seen.
I've seen these compared before and side-by-side, the displays are showing very different colours. The XPS seems to have a magenta cast while the Macbook has a green one. I'm not sure how they can both be considered so colour accurate when they're glaringly different from each other.
Great video, thanks
I’m on the fence to buy my first laptop for photography editing, Lightroom and photoshop. I have the budget for either one. Just can’t make up my mind.
same here. Would be nice to know if you decided on one now?
Have you decided on which laptop? I'm on the same boat and nee d to decide this week 🙃
You didn't address what would be one of the most important considerations: using Mac OS vs Windows. I have both laptop platforms but would never select Windows over the Mac OS. Nearly every day I encounter something on my Windows (Lenovo) laptop that needs addressing. That happens to me with my MacBook Pro one tenth as often.
I ordered XPS 17 for my son who just graduated as a graphic designer... I hope I don’t live to regret it! 😧
Very helpful video
This was the review I was waiting for! Thanks for the help.
Yeees, please do the xps 15 Vs 17 :D
Someone were blowing that compressed air into that Dell... but really software or hardware, they gonna need to patch it ASAP. Until then, saving up for MacBook Pro.
None of the other XPS 17 reviews I've seen reported this problem.
nice review!
Did you run the gaming FPS test on the MBP on Windows with AMD Red drivers? I bet the performance would be a lot closer.
He didn't mention the resolution, I suspect went native full resolution in both... wich isn't fair at all.
Why is Dell's quality control so bad.. I hope mine is good, it arrived yesterday but I hadn't had the time to open it yet.
I'm interested as well, I was just about to buy mine today.
tell your experience, how's the trackpad? Does It have that noise everyone is talking about?
His/her laptop died.
oohh your voice is soo soothing and convincing
Both of these laptops are great but there are just a few small things holding them back - one the Dell side, some of the recent QA/QC issues are alarming - namely, the wobbly trackpad, some displays with dead pixels being shipped, and reported battery drain while plugged in on higher load tasks (might be a deal breaker for some workloads). One other one for me is that there is no version with AMD chips which would be amazing given their higher price-to-performance this gen. On the Macbook pro side, its the higher cost of the device paired with the expectation of better performing and cheaper ARM-chip Macbook Pros coming in a year or two. Non upgradable parts is annoying too (although this is likely something you have to live with for all Non-Mac pro devices in the future). I would say, wait for the next gen for both of these devices if you can as there are major positive catalysts for improved performance on both ends - Dell: better QA/QC, potential for AMD chips (probably cheaper too), much better GPUs on the horizon with Big Navi and Ampere; MBP: ARM chips (potentially cheaper) and Big Navi GPUs.
neat video dude, will be saving up so i can buy a high end laptop next year looking forward to your reviews on the 2021 units! :)
Many thanks for the helpful review. I am a Windows user, who thinks that the Mac will be the future after sorting out its own silicon processors. Would you agree with that? And, did you move to XPS 17 as you were contemplating? I would love to see XPS 15 17 comparison. Thanks again
I do think making their own processors will be their tomb. You cannot be the best on chip desing, software design, hardware design all at the same time. Fighting android, fighting windows, fighting nvidia, intel, amd, even dell or many other integrators...even adobe and microsoft office... or microsoft direct x... you simply can't win, even if you manage to be the best on all those aspects for some years. They went up when they abandoned their own risk architecture and go for intel. They will go down now imho.
Look at the macbook now, overpriced, underpowered. Look at the iphones, overpriced, old fashioned designs. Look at the absurdly overpriced mac pro... Look at the software available (adobe), even games... ¡even office suites! all them much better in windows and coming from third parties... they are already going down ...the ganius is not here anymore.
@@apf14378 thanks for your opinion. I never used a Mac, but find it promising that they will be able to design all the components while others will rely on intel and etc. It seems like the difference between making your pasta at home and buying it from supermarket. Thanks anyway
You deserve more views!
Thanks Tom . Can you please tell us how did learn editing your videos ? which sources would be helpful ?
Jeez fkn cool as hell. Thanks for all the info, very helpful.