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OOO my GOD something that im sayng for more than a decade. Women beuty standarts take a bath and dont eat like a hipo. Men beuty standarts 5 years of perfect diet, perfect gym and perfect use of steroids with luck to get the genetics. And they do all this to atrract a mediocre used Wh ore.
Please I've gone to a sporting event with a slim Jim body out running super super soldier bodies when I was in my division pace Lifting 300 lb more than body weight, I would jump out of bed to do 1000 super squats with ten pounds weights, and farmers marching with 90 lb bench bar before I went headed towards a job, or did yard work with elderly all day
If you're a natural lifter suffering from body dysmorphia, just walk down a beach in America. You'll instantly remember that social media isn't reality and you're probably doing better than 90% of people your age. (Does not apply to muscle beach, only go there if you need to be humbled)
I always thought that the ideal male natural physique was not that warped, until some friends and people at the gym told me they genuinely thought that The Rock is natty. My mind was blown.
I mean....we saw those girls refer to Chris heckin Bumstead as a "dad-bod" .....pretty confident in saying the physique standards are more warped than Salvador Dali's pocketwatch.
It doesn’t matter what people think, only reality. Irl people respond well when you look big and strong and they are kinda nonplussed when you are too lean or look like a ifbb pro
i can say i feel good i feel like the video doesnt get it, we dont work out for others, we work out for the body WE want, theres nothing wrong with that if thats what keeps us motivated
except looking good has a very high correlation with feeling good...i never knew a fat man or woman who was happier than one who is cut up or well defined or toned...
@@nomanejane5766 I have a degree in Journalism (with comunications, because in my university you couldn't do one without another, and its easy to know why) and he's right. Lots of things on Communication and media, and not just advertising, are about highjacking your mind, explore pre-conceptions of the world and society you don't even know are in your mind, built in by years of societal reinforcement that has nothing to do (today a lot is, but wasn't always this way) with media, and using to make the message get to you. Some faculties and disciplines are more or less agressive. But communication is all about studying how information spreads through various forms of medium from the paper to the internet, the Advertising to the real world conversations and how different paths lead to different interpretations. Mostly of the biggest advances in communications and Media (not only the technological ones) were made at wars of after wars. Because successfully influencing ppl is a big asset. No matter what faculty of communication you study, it all comes to explore how ppl's mind work in your favor. I honestly agree with the guy, i just couldn't quit for personal reasons.
@@nomanejane5766 Advertising was sadly the only subject viewed by the curriculum as a viable career - and advertising is in everything - so yeah, I guess the degree was rather misleading.
I don't care for muscular guys. Many women don't want that. I just want you to be kind, respectful, and care for yourself. Because men have focused on the wrong things, I'm still single at 28. Edit: I said many. Not most. There are other factors as to why I'm single, yes. But a big portion of it is that men are focusing on the things I'm not looking for. Its just a fact. Sorry if facts offend your feelings but thats just reality. It might also be that I'm not looking to be a breeding factory for men as I do not want kids. But who knows. All I saw were the same issues I see in men. Lack of accountability and accusing me of exactly what has been happening. There is nothing wrong with me as to my preferences. I'm not being picky at all. My preferences are just that, preferences. I don't see how butthurt the majority of yall got over this. Its just a rando comment on YT. Lol
On the height surgery thing. I work for a company that packages those rods. We had a doctor come in for a tour of our facility. And I asked him what his thoughts on it were? He said this verbatim. "I've only ever used these on car crash victims, and people with limb deformities. Outside of that I think any doctor who goes along with using them outside of that scope should lose their license" think about it like this most people want to avoid being in the circumstances that require those rods at all costs.
@MangyPL to be what? A 5'4 male? Dude, if you want to do it, I can't stop you. But you'll still be in the same boat with metal rods in your legs. Also, there's a high chance you'll never walk again. And for what? to impress people who could care less if you get hit by a bus tomorrow?
@MangyPL so you're willing to possibly cripple yourself so that women will pay attention to you? Bro, this surgery has a high complication rate, and you'll be even shorter if you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.
@@rgeurts8836 no, it not that, its just that the child has probably given up its childhood for some fame, money and glory that will just go to the parents, and retain nothing afterwards. its like beaty pageants but instead of the feminine its the masculine, and both are bad. idk if your comment was under one level, or two of sarcasm but if i read it right it was basically "ah yes, please insult a literal child" and please correct me if i was wrong about that. and if you meant that i hope i changed your mind.
I am happy you are talking about this. I am a mother of 1 girl and 2 boys, and body shaming goes both ways. I want my children to grow up healthy (mentally and physically). Not focus on how they look but who they are.
You buy clothes to look good? You workout to look good along with a myriad of other benefits like stronger mentality, reduced stress and depression, etc
@@Dabby724 For real. I am all about self love and acceptance but not to the point of cognitive dissonance. The path of least resistance is to do these relatively normal, low effort things such as dressing well, eating well and exercise. Demographics vary but in many places, I'd say 90% of the population fails at this. Simply having an attractive appearance and (true) self confidence will carry people VERY far in life! Actual confidence can only come from achievement and the willingness to do difficult things, otherwise it is fleeting.
yes but looks matter. we are animals and judge based on looks first, everything else second. especially girls. no guy chooses a girl for her brains if she is ugly. be realistic instead of lying to your kids
As an older guy who’s lifted naturally for 25 years, I’m glad to see people start talking about this. I was a very skinny guy growing up and was self-conscious about it. I started lifting at 18 but was never even tempted to use steroids or other dangerous substances. In fact, the culture overall very much discouraged it. It was desirable to be muscular, but nobody was shooting for pro bodybuilder physiques except for pro bodybuilders. It worries me to see so many young guys doing this to themselves, and striving for such unrealistic goals. Young guys, especially, can achieve VERY nice results naturally. Looking around online it’s horrifying how many high school kids are on gear.
@@user-cz9jj2em2v You can't make a blanket statement like that about something that very clearly can be dangerous. I know you're obviously aware it can be done in a less-damaging way, but that doesn't mean you can just say, "steroids aren't dangerous." It's like if I said, "alcohol isn't dangerous" on a video about alcohol abuse, just because I know I'm able to drink moderately.
@@user-cz9jj2em2v I appreciate your great response and I don't think you're being stupid. You just were applying your own experience to other people who are all very different from yourself without thinking about it that way. It's an easy mistake we all make often. I'm glad you had a proper role model to help you do things in a safer way. Keep doing what you're doing and stay safe brother.
"Self improvment is supposed to enhanace yourself as a person. Not replace yourself." As someone who ended up in multiple psych wards due to starvation induced psychosis and becoming overly obsessed with feeling the need to look a certain way JUST to deserve love or attention.. This quote really hit me hard.
Same goes for old paintings of the god Thor, who as one of his titles is the god of strength has a similar physique to Sean Connery in his body building days.
@@desgroidthat can be said to every male statue made. I will say rhat the muscle limit may have been much less during that era. Still, I find it strange how there’s an over idolization of body building.
He's god of wine or something, not god of acne, joint pain and megalocardia (heart condition where it becomes so big that it can't pump blood properly)
@@mariachi3217 no, they just werent able to train as efficient and didnt had the proper diet for todays physiques, they surely had the same muscle limit
One thing not mentioned in this video is the fact that 80% of men who go on dating websites are incapable of getting a successful date. So there is a never-ending pressure to get more muscular to try to attract women.
It's not if your mentally stable for teens I'll agree but for both genders, the funniest is the things you see aren't even attractive for the other gender do you look at a girl after 20 beauty operations and aay wow thats hot no you think jesus is this woman ugly same goes for guys on steroids most woman find it unattractive being lean and fitt is attractive brad pit fight club, most gymnasts or climbers not being a fucking orc
Absolutely!! People need to realize this. I’m in much better state of mind after deleting instagram and dating apps. Not to mention, I am spending more time with my family. The joy that it gives is real.
A very close friend of mine ended up in the hospital for about six weeks due to anorexia. Even now, she has to be so careful that she's eating enough and it's scary. People need to realize what's healthy is a middle point, not any of the super muscular "alpha males" and not obesity, but somewhere in between.
Does she have a father figure? I mean your whole identity seems to be terraria, so I'm guessing that's unstable too - but it's not as damaging as literal starvation.
@@revisit8480 yes, she has a father figure, from what i can tell they have a great relationship. why the comment about terraria? it really doesn't seem relevant.
The Luke Skywalker doll actually makes me mad on a story level, not because it is setting bad standards. Luke in the beggining of a new hope is a scrawny teenager. He’s not an action hero, and even when he becomes one, he doesn’t have to be extremely physically strong, since much of his power comes from force augmentation. He also hasn’t trained for nearly long enough to be able to have that physique, even by the end of The Empire Strikes Back.
Exactly his greatest strength was never his physical strength, but rather his mental strength and knowledge with the force lol. Glad I wasn’t the only one.
I see so many people saying "MEN HAVE IT WORSE" or "WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE", it's such a pointless fight, it doesn't matter who has it worse, no one should be suffering, no one should feel like they can't speak up and say what's bothering them. Let's encourage each other and not downplay someone's issues, we all have something that's bothering us, some just show it less.
@@professinalweeabootrash5254their point stands. guys still hurt a lot of women with jokes and teasing of how they look. were just absolutely blind to it and im saying this as a GUY. im no feminist nor masculinist but i fall more under humanist. but theres no metric to measur
The ideal male physique is for me a healthy body. I don’t understand the obsession with looks. I’m in a relationship for over 10 years and our looks changed so much…
Never had a gf and im 20, i feel like its never gonna happen so i just gave up the idea. The standards just seem unreachable for me and always increasing aswell.
@@DegenLeo glaub mir 20 Jahre ist kein Alter. Du musst keine Standards erfüllen und einer breiten Masse an Menschen gefallen. Du musst nur der Einen gefallen und es gibt zu 100% mindestens eine Frau die dich einfach perfekt findet und dich von Herzen liebt.
As I’ve (f, 18) begun to become more entrenched in gym culture, I’ve developed a decent amount of “gym bro” friends. The body dysmorphia is insane. I have a guy friend who boxes and legit looks like rocky from the rocky movies and he’s STILL unhappy with himself, and it’s so sad to see. I really really hope he doesn’t go down a dangerous path.
I was at the gym yesterday and saw some guy who looked like Adonis. Wonderful proportions, long, muscular limbs, shredded abs, and the guy talked with his friend about how small and weak he feels
If he looks like Rocky, he's already well on a dangerous path instead of just near one. Remember, "Rocky" was a boxer, but Stallone was a bodybuilder with a physique completely unrelated and partly counterproductive to boxing. Your friend is already sabotaging the sport to chase a physique, without even touching the fact that one doesn't get to look anything like Stallone without doing the things he (and others like him) did.
The issue for male bodybuilding standards is almost entirely due to the fake Natty's. You see lots of fitness influencers that are shredded benching 315 like it's nothing and people can't help but feel inadequate in comparison
not really, even if steroids didnt even exist there would be genetic freaks who would be on top of the fitness industry spreading unrealistic standards.
It's bodybuilding it's to get as big as possible nobody ever said that's attractive (besides a lot of gay guys) or that healthy if you want to be attractive for females be lean and have a sixpack that's all you have to do at a certain size you are getting more and more unattractive for females same as females get more and more unattractive the more beauty ops they done. Edit: okay Hollywood says that shit but that's just a bunch of lunatics and they also said Lizzo is attractive,
Its simple natural you WILL NEVER BE LEAN AND BIG. You have to pick one be good looking with cloths or without it. If the guy its big and lean hes on it. When you get to the science of for exame size of arm natural can get majority of peak natural will be 38cm. And theres legends of the pre steroids era body building with 43. But majority will never hit 39cm.
I think i have fallen into this trap. I never had a problem with my body until a lot of people kept saying i was skinny or a toothpick, and im not even anorexic either. Ive had an on and off problem with wanting to get bigger vs accepting myself as i am but when i look in the mirror at times sometimes i say im too skinny and i want to be bigger but i see that it comes from me saying "im tired of people calling me skinny". So the problem is that im still holding on to those skinny insults years later...
Ya but people into fitness back then just read magazines and websites full of fake natties. Can't believe I thought protein powder made those drugged out bodies.
You had it good really. Though face book became big when I was about 13-14 I never used any of it and I could not be happier for it. Sure I had facebook to chat with friends but I never scrolled through it. Never had instagram or twitter or whatever. And I pretty much live normally, happy with not many problems. Social anxiety saved me from this mess and I love it.
Height shaming in America is considered hilarious at best, and normal at worst. The average 5'9 male is routinely derided as short, unmanly, and so hopelessly inferior that men - particularly celebrities and comic - will preemotively denigrate themselves as a defense mechanism. It's so endemic that achieving a near-unattainable physique is as likely to net you scorn as "trying to compensate" if you aren't puahing 6 feet or taller.
Ehh, my husband is like 5'9" and no one would call him short. Not that I would care if he was. I've dated short men and know tons of lovely, married, short men. No one else cares, really.
I am 5´9 in one of the worlds tallest countries (Norway). I am just below average statistically here. I have only been called short by a dude who was 6 foot 2. And now that I am older and wiser I have realized that I have had a huge amount of female attention, and still do. But because I thought my height was a problem, I never bothered to escalate. And MAN did I miss some chances, it will torture me for the rest of my life.
@@jessa5388 I'm 5'8 and have routinely been called short my entire life. I know guys who are 5'10 that also get called short. Not that it bothers me but it is definitely a thing
@@Will-qx9vm not sure about all countries, but I would guess statistically it's just slightly below the average in the most countries, 70-80% of women are shorter than that, so they should be perfectly fine with your height, there's definitely a cult of height in the US, if you look at the memes, you need to be an actual giant to be considered "tall enough".
@@melodi996 Right, but the craziest part is this: most of those women can't really guess peoples height accurately in real life if they are shorter than said man. Especially if the height difference is significant, so I have read stories about people getting interest from their date in real life, just not on tinder. It is just so silly. And btw most of the women who was keen on my have been slightly taller than me, or same height or just a tad shorter. I don't know what is up with that, it seems women care less when they themself are a tall woman (5'9 is ofc tall for a womam, even here) but the really short ones want to be with Shaq O'neill types.
“I realized the hard way that looking good means nothing if you don’t feel good” this quote definitely describes my on and off workout routines I’ve had for a couple years
I was always pretty thin but still somewhat fit but a few years ago I felt pressured by society and other guys to bulk up to be "healthier" and attract girls. So I tried to gain weight and more upper body muscles which was fine but ever since then I got a lot more exhausted when running or biking or just in general and I couldn't figure out why until I realized that it was likely just the extra mass/muscle that was taking more oxygen/energy out of me! And that was just a relatively small change - I can't imagine how much worse I'd feel if I had kept that up and pushed myself to look like a lot of other gym bros/muscle heads!
@@Bristecom I agree! When I started my fitness journey at 21 years old it was because I wanted to join the coast guard and I had to be able to run a 1.5 mile in 12:51. After finally being able to reach that time goal it’s become second nature for me to put cardio above all else and do everything as clean as I can
Been there🤦♂️ you become obsessed with food intake, gym sets. I ruined family holidays because I was always in the gym or running. I’ve missed out on family parties to avoid the food and drink…..oh,,and I became dependent on coke to have a good time🤦♂️
Yep and the rebound was absurd… I went from tracking every single ounce of calories and macros to stuffing my face with food again. 2-3 years later I’m still struggling to get back into good shape from the after effects of that rebounded dirty bulk
Josh, as an exercise scientist I can earnestly say that this is one of the most important messages that modern society needs to address. Kudos to you for daring to speak out. This is essential viewing for every young man.
the issue is that we can’t just stop comparing ourselves to others and all of those other pieces of advice because for those in high school, the girls they want are comparing them to those instagram models
They did it to women first, and now they're doing it to men. As a middle aged woman who used to have an eating disorder due to unrealistic beauty standards, I tell you this: it's not worth it. The way you look is really much less important than you imagine. It's not worth losing your health over it. Work on yourself to be an interesting and kind person, work on your hobbies, have a job that fulfills you. Be interested in other people, view them as persons, not objects. And you'll be alright in life.
well, the diference is nowadays we are domimated by an era of image and hipergamy more than ever, if you are a young, even mid-aged guy and you want to have a minimum of success with women in dating apps and similars you need to be almost like a fitness model since in these apps only have success a 10% of guys. Depends of your enviromemt sometimes is the best chance to meet women around. if you dont pass that filter you dont have even the chance to show how good, kind, smart, whatever u are in live. It´s an oversimplification but is like that
I always wondered how they even succeeded in doing it to people since the vast majority of men actually don't like the super skinny female "starved model" look, just as the vast majority of women don't like the super bulked-up male "gym freak" look. Women and men alike strive for a body that's not even the ideal/prefered one in the eyes of the opposite s3x, that's what's really crazy.
@@frusia123 as I said nowadays for many men is almost the only choice. Most of my daily life at job, hobbies, social circle and the area where I live is made out a 75% of dicks vs 25% women (lot of them old and/or not very femenine)
you're very sweet for saying this. Maybe one day something will happen that will change how I see myself and these things. But I know my place in the ranking, I know I'm truly invisible and meaningless where I live and others' violence and lust will prevail over my silly passions, ideals and dreams. It's easy to get punched in the face the first x years of your life figuratively or literally, for doing something wrong at home or in public. My thoughts and feelings mean nothing to anybody other than me. I don't have friends, family or a partner I could talk to about these anyways, other than maybe one friend whom I don't want to lose. How many years before that truly changes, I don't know. There are many more handsome people than me and how easy it is to sell someone something with that as your advantage is clear. If anyone could become an actor in a main role it would be them, not me. I mean come on how can i compare to a 7ft2 bodybuilder that also has a medical degree and a huge lumberjack beard. I'm 6ft2. I feel like a small child back in school when i set foot in the gym. My degree also socially means nothing compared to a doctor. Anyways. if Tomorrow i woke up in my dream body. I don't know what I would do. I guess sometimes when i go to a place where I stand out I just hate how now people look at me. It wasn't that way in school. Probably I'd be overwhelmed and end it all even sooner realising I can only start living life this late.
I appreciated this video. You mention GIJoe vs. Barbie. And I often thought it was strange as a comic book fan in the 80s that all the focus was on unrealistic female standards when we had male standards like Clark Kent and Peter Parker in comics. There are zero versions of Clark Kent or Peter Parker that aren't absolutely ripped and gorgeous, yet young boys were told these were "nerds" because they wore glasses and didn't run around in tights flashing their completely unrealistic musculature.
@@kadenkohl782 Neither Superman or Spider-Man were that jacked in the beginning. Superman still had an attainable, drug-free looking physique well into the 1970s based on bodybuilders like Steve Reeves. Ditko and Romita Spidey especially wasn't big by any stretch of the imagination. In fact he isn't now, really. Or wasn't last time I looked.
And how are we suffering because of this? I'm not a ripped masculine chad. So what? Do I need to attack hierarchies and ideals because of that? This is not about you.
I grew up with a mother who criticized my lack of masculine bulk when I was in my early teens even as guys at the feed store expressed amazement by how strong I was for my age. I carried multiple bags of horse feed with surprising ease. My exercise of choice was riding BMX bikes in the woods around our house, a cardio sport that doesn't bulk muscles. Now in my mid-50s, I still have the endurance athlete's leaner musculature. My main exercises have always been cardio, but I've added strength training for bone health. I told my children -- daughters and sons -- to develop healthy relationships with food and exercise and aimed to teach them what that is step-by-step. I made sure they knew every sport and physical activity from archery to Zumba will develop the body differently, and every body will look different.
Always the oldheads giving an unrelated and irrelevant anecdote to very subtlety and discreetly toot their own horn. What does the fact that “guys were impressed with how many feed bags you could carry” have anything to do with how you raised your children?
As a woman, I’ve never really considered men being bombarded with the same crap we get, with regards to body image….i feel kind of ignorant now… I will say to all the guys reading this, most women know the juiced up physiques are not natural and not looking for that kind of a body…but I wish younger boys and young adult men could hear that more
No they don't. People on gear get better results and the noble natties stay small forever while wasting money on programs that don't work to get results that don't matter. The answer is to legalize steroids so that we can have a safer and more regulated market. The attitude of banning all the things failed with booze and failed with weed. At this point there is no rational argument to keep these drugs illegal.
Chasing performance can also lead to the same problems if people are trying to be The Best at any cost. I mean, just look at drug use in athletes. Just train and exercise for health, and create reasonable performance goals to give some extra motivation, and be happy with whatever aesthetic changes happen with your body in the mean time.
@@officialrohinmusic Sure, let people get into the rabbit hole of the dangers pointed out in the video. If they want it, they should do it, freedom and all that
The Rock is particularly problematic. Not only in terms of body goals, but ageing body goals. No doubt he has great genetics, but his body must be a chemistry lab at this point, and no-one will call him out on it until his health declines (which will likely happen suddenly and dramatically) as a result of it.
Unfortunately his wealth may protect him from the worst of the consequences, leaving anyone not swimming in money with the mistaken belief that what he has done is healthy.
Yeah the Rocks situation is ridiculous. When he was in his 20s and early 30s he was big but not lean yet when he gets into his late 40s and 50s he is not only bigger than he’s ever been but much leaner! So yeah it’s obvious what he’s doing and I definitely get urges to jump on TRT(but higher than baseline doses) when I see guys like him
Something needs to change, when I started bodybuilding I thought that by training hard and eating five meals a day it would make me look like a men's physique competitor, but what I learned through the process was that those goals were just unrealistic, just be the best version of yourself and enjoy the journey. Great video by the way!
I want to thank my 8th grade science teacher for absolutely destroying my idea of the ideal male body. We were learning about muscles, and she showed us pictures of bodybuilders and Olympic athletes. She explained that bodybuilders have bigger muscles because of steroids, but skinny athletes are often stronger because they train to improve the performance of their muscles, not their size. It blew my mind that bigger muscles didn't always mean more strength, and helped me not buckle under the pressure of influencers and mass media.
Bigger muscles looks aesthetically better. These dudes do it for the look. If you want strength you can be fat ass in gym that ego lifts. Think worlds strongest men competition it’s all obese dudes
The olympic athletes are on steroids lmfao. Your teacher had a good message but you literally do not become the best person on the planet at something naturally
Basically social media is hiding lies and reality in a world where most social activities happen online. The insecurity is planted deeply among most of us and it doesn't spare anyone :(
Men and women should stay clear of social media and focus on health. Being a healthy weight, getting regular exercize and adequate sleep will serve you right in all parts of life, and for a long time.
Hey man, the world is dark and cold. There’s a lot of liars and cheaters in this fitness community. But videos like this are what is needed in this age. We can’t wait for someone else to start speaking up about this. Thank you for making this and please never stop. I am a 27 year old who has suffered with body dysmorphia my whole life. I lived with bullemia for years and Went down the path of sarms. I wish i had better influences going up and i hate myself for putting my body through that. I had a bad crash to my system after the sarms and i have been trying to recover for almost 2 years now. If anyone reading this is thinking about making a dumb decision like that, please dont. You all are special humans, you’re loved, you’re needed on this planet.
But isnt it ironic that most of his thumbnails include this unrealistic male body standard. Kinda trying to profit off what he is bashing on in this video imo
You know, when I've reached the part of the video where it said that it was taboo for women to smoke, I would say that's one hella positive taboo, because at the end of the day they avoid damaging or harming their body with smoking and avoiding it as a general harmful addiction, so at the end of the day, women did not miss out of anything except making the quality of their life better and healthier.
One of the epiphanies men need to have and really let it sink in is the fact that the overwhelming majority of women don’t care or worse are disgusted by the “ideal” male physique. This realization alone should relieve a lot of the pressure we men put on ourselves. Don’t become a gymcel.
This is why many guys, who strive to sculpt a perfect body are or realise they are gay. It gets to the point, where self-absorbtion is so high, you begin attract other men for various reasons (admiration, jealousy, love). This is my idea flow at the moment. I may be wrong, too.
@@winnied87 Interesting but I don’t think admiring the male physique equates to being sexually/romantically attracted to other men (gay). That’s almost like saying girls who admire female models are lesbians.
@@lucasy4790 It kinda gets there. Ladies don't want very muscular men and very muscular men find more support among other muscular men in that case and attraction builds up. Also, many muscular guys really are gay.
@@winnied87 Of course, there are more gay men relative to outside the community but still, the majority of men within the lifting community are straight men, typically (whether they admit it or not) train to look better to attract girls. (And please I know that there are are portion of people in the gym for sports or health reasons). It’s just that we men, irrespective of the community, tend to compete amongst each other as a way to “stand out” (ie mogging). In the lifting community, we often compare each other how much we can lift, how big our arms are or how ripped we are when most women absolutely do not care about these parameters, very ironically.
"It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable" - Socrates I workout for myself and for the physical and mental health benefits it provides. Will I ever be satisfied with how I look? Probably not, but I’ve made peace with that and am just enjoying the process.
@@sexmusichandleprogress always brings sacrifice. And sometimes there are things that it is not wort sacrifing, like you should never sacrifice your health. If anything i agree there should be things we can do to improve, but never take things too far.
I have been training since i was 16. It's been 10 years now. I have never once even entertained the idea of PEDs. I occasionally get comments saying "you don't look like you've trained that long". This typically comes from women or men who aren't into fitness. From their PoV if you don't look like The Rock or like an instagram roidhead influencer then you either: 1- haven't trained much 2- don't work hard enough I am very happy with my body and what i have achieved. I also believe that i still have room to grow and improve - but i am probably somewhat close to my genetic maximum as a natty. People have such a warped perception of what is achievable naturally that it sometimes really hurts.
the lamest yet best compliment i get is from people who haven't seen me in a long time. Dude you look like you did in high school. late 40s now bout 14%bf. I may not be jacked like the kids in the gym but if they live to my age they'll be lucky. keep it natty
I feel like this is so strange, i have been training for the last 8 years, natty. I am 6 foot 1 (185 cm for the europeans) weigh around 95 kg and like 15-18 % Body fat so i have abs but no veins and since i dont skip and go 4-5 Times per week plus cardio i feel like this is my maximum, still most women dont know how much pain and work i put into it and of course they notice to them its no big deal since women allways look like they have a nice body unless they are anorexic or overweight...
Mate, don't take it as an insult. Because only recently did I realise that without a pump, not even the shredded people just walk around looking like that. I've also seen countless before and afters of a guy visibly gaining 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months. Again, only recently did I find out that a lot of those people are using steriods and such. So to a person like me who is not a man, and also knows fuck all about working out, your results seem "pathetic" when you compare them to other men who have bulging after only 4 weeks of going to the gym. They're speaking from a place of ignorance, don't take it to heart.
I have a very good male friend. We used to go to the same gym and he lived in my neighbourhood from childhood, went to the same kindergarden. He was a chubby kid and I think got bullied a lot. He decided to become a personal trainer, was madly into fitness videos and lifestyle. I had a major illness and I got into fitness for health reasons and I remember I thought how crazy he was spending everyday in the gym like it’s no tomorrow, also his workouts were really forceful and over the top imo. He forced food inside of him to “bulk” then overtime he only ended up a little bit muscular, but kinda chubby again. (i think he clearly had a binge eating disorder sort of) My mom came to the gym one day and straight out said he was fat. Over the years I realised he was insecure from all the bullying in his childhood, he fell in love with a girl wo had a sh*tty personality and wanted to be ideal for her. Yet in the end he did not end up looking like all the guys in the gym who were doing steroids obviously. He looks really haggard nowadays, all the forceful training aged him badly, has a dead end job and no girlfriend in sight.
This is what's in store for most men. This is what Western society has propagated. When everything falls, and our birth rates plummet, hopefully we can build back a society worth living in.
I was criticized and laughed for being too skinny when I was younger. This made me gain fat, and then I was criticized for being fat. I rarely compared myself to social media, mostly to people in real life and I still feel inadequate. This led to body dysmorphia and being afraid of negative judgement. I've got health problems because I was so disconnected with myself. No one says something good about my body, Im constantly trying to improve it and for the past years thats the goal im focused on all the time however its very hard to achieve something. I always feel that everyone expects my body to look a certain way that is acceptable for a male. I'm so tired with this, I just wanna feel normal. Sadly my friends dont seem interested in congratulating me for my hard work even when I say I need it
Going to watch this video with my 3 teenage sons to start a conversation about realistic physique goals. Thanks for your hard work on this, Josh. Your content is so valuable.
i have 3 kinda 4 goals. get rid of severe excess body fat, severe imo. get rid of gynecomastia from adhd meds as a child, or atleast thats what i blame lol, and to be capable of making it out there. need t o he able to pull up several times, do dips, run for an hour straight without slowing down or stopping at the very least. realistic goals imo. things that are pretty much necessary living out in the wildernesss.
Yes please do, starting the conversation with your boys is the best thing you can do. Even if they seem negative or indifferent to the message, they pick up on what you try to convey to them!
I hope it goes well. The most important thing is that they understand that the bodybuilders on stage and the models on IG look like that for only a couple of days, after going to extremes to get there. Once the competition or photo shoot is over, they lose a lot of that extreme look. Make sure they're not comparing themselves to those people. Secondly, make sure they understand how catastrophic it can be if they take steroids at a young age. It can permanently shut down their endocrine system, and their testosterone production for the rest of their lives. Supplements, protein powder, all that is fine, but anything that messes with hormones is dangerous for anyone under 25 at a MINIMUM. Looking good for 6 months is not worth being unable to produce testosterone and regulate their hormones for the rest of their lives.
@@defaultworkouts Aspiring to be the best version of yourself is a good thing. But, social media has robbed ten of millions of people of their happiness. Consider all of the people who have achieved above average results in their lives, but still feel like losers. Everyone wants to match the top 1% (in looks, lifestyle, popularity), but that is literally impossible. By definition only 1% of the population will ever be in the top 1%.
@@defaultworkoutswhen done right but most of the time it’s not. Even if does work, it’s just temporary before the cycle ultimately begins again. Better to compare your past from your present rather than someone else’s present to yours.
These types of videos needs to be taught in school and saved for generations to see. Thanks for the amazing content ❤ There’s this clip of the guy in twilight saying he “rebelled against the gym”that’s the only weird thing in the vid cuz Fitness is amazing. And it was not inlined with idea of the vid
Thank you for this video. I used to hit gym and while I was gaining muscle, I was having a lot of joint pain. My trainer, god bless him, told me that training for aesthetics is pointless and after sometime you question why you do what you do while suffering in constant pain. I feel good about my decision of eat good food, and doing running, pushups, yoga, hiking and cycling instead of pursuing to have that 6 pack abs. The reason behind having the "Physic" was women. But overtime I understood there are other factors beyond physic to get the attention from a women. Many came and went. I am grateful for that. No regrets and currently single, living my life out without any stress. I am happy. :)
I definitely have body dysmorphia, but I recognize that I do and understand that I look way better than I see myself. So while I will always continue to push myself in the gym, I don't actually hate myself.
Me too! I know I look good and don't need more muscles. Just staying fit is more than enough. Yet I often catch myseself thinking, I could add muscle here and there. But I don't hate the gym and still enjoy it.
Me too man. I swear the day since I was way more dedicated to my fitness than ever so many people have complimented my physique along the way. Even strangers that I met in random places I swear. But I still look at the mirror and feel very inadequate at times. I think one of the main factor is the standards that most social media have emphasized upon us.
Its normal... i was skinny now im built like a greek statue and i still think most of the time im still the skyny dude. Takes time to kinda adapt to the new reality.
Thank you, Josh. It makes me sad that we all deal with this, both men and women. The standards are set so high because of social media. We end up hurting ourselves in the long run. I truly hope things do get better.
It isn't just social media encouraging these trends but dating apps and their algorithms. If you're an average 5 foot 10 young man, you're considered unattractive to the average woman on these apps and you won't be getting much likes, let alone. What better to increase your chances than to pick up a weight? Women standards have sky-rocketed and men are just trying to meet the new yardstick if they aren't blessed with a photogenic face or height.
These kinds of content about fitness industry is like a window through the eyes of others thoughts thatll never come to your mind, odd how some people want to break their bones, injecting random shit, all harmful stuff just to look the way they think other people think look good
Channing Tatum - "I don't know how people working 9-5 manage to stay in shape, when I struggle and it's my full time job". Well said Mr Tatum. This is something Im often in conflict with and not something I think people consider enough when taking advice from FULL TIME fitness influencers. Amazing video. Boy do you have the voice for it 😂👍🏻
Channing Tatum is wrong. You only need to workout like 4.5-6 hours a week to get amazing results. Stop kneecapping yourself by telling yourself that your goals and their processes are impossible. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Don’t fall for it
That's because staying in shape should be effortless. It's a lifestyle and mindset change completely not rushing to get results for the sake of capitalist gain
@@Timmy-mi2ef because we seek instant results so we go to drastic measures. Little changes and habits build up over time. Like I quit soda when I was teen pretty sure it butterfly effected my entire life now that I’m mid 20s
There are more than a few posts on YT that talk about this topic. This the most complete one I have seen. Dysmorphia, eating disorders, steroids in children, the unsustainability of the 'perfect' physique and the fact that people are literally dying to get to some ideal. Thanks for the post.
im not a fitness junkie but im trans so i feel for these people not happy in their own body, trying to do everything to fill some aesthetic ideal. i wish we lived in a world where everyone can be happy with their body.
there's a really interesting conversation to be had in the chemical process for transitioning, I do't think anybnody realises just how much testosterone therapy (both adding and chemically stripping out) goes on in the process. It always makes me laugh when people start working themselves up to hysterics because a trans woman is competing in something...i always say "You know she has had almost all of the testosterone chemically removed from her body right? technically the cis women have the advantage when it comes to testosterone." but it always falls on deaf ears.
@@michaelcoward1902 Muscles have muscle memory. So even if you remove the testosterone from the body, the muscles are more stronger and developed than in any cis female of comparable stature.
you are made in the image of God and God formed you inside of your mother's womb and loves your body. You are and will always be the gender you were born in.
My step-nephew joined the Marines out of high school because he wanted to look a certain way (muscular) and do cool stuff like a Call of Duty video game. He got really into lifting, and was upset he wasn't gaining enough muscle since he was required to do so much running and physical activity in the Marines. He was bulking, eating a lot of junk food on post and not doing enough running/cardio. He got in trouble for being overweight, and assumed he could do a body fat analysis and pass since he had so much muscle, but didn't. He was put on a special weight loss program that required extra PT (more running) and he complained about it killing his gains and losing muscle. He opted to leave the Marines with non-honorable discharge because he didn't want to run or lose his "gains" or train to pass the PT test. My dad was trying to talk to him about how his job prospects would be if he left the Marines in that way - essentially quitting - and he didn't care. He wanted to look a certain way and believed that if he stayed in the Marines, he wouldn't look that way and it wasn't fun like a video game, and thus he wanted out.
I'm so sorry, I hope he grows out of this obsession. What is he trying to prove to himself? He ruined a lot of job potentials for himself. If you're good enough to get in the Marines....you should try to make the best of it. Sometimes we have no sense when we're young.
Yep. When I’m approached in a gym or sauna (it’s frequent), I freely give advice. But there’s something else I almost always mention. Single. 40. No kids. Pharmacist. My life is work, exercise, meal prep, and solo mountaineering/alpinism. Sometimes life works out to where I can only do one long trip (7+ days on a big objective) a year. Yes, it’s 100% worth it to me. That’s not most people’s life. They don’t have time to train 15+ hrs a week as endurance and calisthenics athlete. They won’t sacrifice most friends and a social life for this, and shouldn’t, usually. People can look fairly good training natural with the right nutrition plan, and still have a normal life. A lot of misinformation out there, poor nutrition plans, and lack of sufficient movement. We shouldn’t hold up bodybuilders as the standard for the average gym goer. It’s something most people shouldn’t want anyway. Want to be able to do useful athletic things with your body? Run at least a few miles without feeling like death is near? Then pursue a different resistance training strategy.
Blame women with unrealistic standards. Most women don't want a shredded guy, but they will tell you zac efron in baywatch or even the brad pitt Fight Club is the ideal body. Zac efron will tell you he cant even mantain that look. The problem is that those physiques are incredibly difficult to attain and maintain for most guys. Around 20% is more realistic for most guys but women want the 10-12% moderately muscular guy in most cases.
I almost didn’t watch this video because I was scared it would “convince” me to work less hard on myself. Shows how easily these disordered ways of thinking can sneak in. Thanks for such an important and nuanced video.
This was a good video indeed. However, one with such a title could easily have been about blackpilling people and telling them to not even try, so your initial concerns were perfectly reasonable.
@@tuukkai1841blackpill isn't necessarily bad, people just think that because you can't change your height or face you're doomed and should stop trying in life. I agree most of them are stupid but the concept of looks over everything that blackpill spreads is a reality in todays modern society.
People need to understand that self improvement is not all about getting good looks, but, its to discover who you wanted to be a person who you can be proud of
I just want to give these guys who have been put under so much pressure to look a certain way a hug. The thought that they aren’t attractive enough kills me, They were already attractive before they started hurting themselves. While self improvement is healthy… this goes too far :(
As a woman who has dealt with bulimia, anorexia, and everything else, it breaks my heart to see these impossible standards imposed onto young men and boys. A couple of decades ago women had to starve themselves (and possibly use Adderall and/or cocaine) to achieve the "perfect" body. Now men have to crash diet, take steroids and dehydrate themselves to achieve the same. And they have to behave in ways that will ultimately destroy them, physically and emotionally. (BTW, I'm 5'9", my husband is 5'5", and we've been together for 28 years. We've been married for 22 years and have 2 kids. Anyone who mocks someone else for their height is an AH.)
@@animekingdom4918 you have clearly never worked out or just tried body building before. It is nearly impossible for the average man to get the “perfect” physique. Even with great genetics to get to that “perfect” level you have to start using drugs and other enhancers. It’s not about being lazy it’s about how it’s impossible to do without it.
As someone who lifts 5 days a week, bulking and cutting. Would say I have a pretty good body image, and knowledge about what is possible and not. Even despite impressing myself with how much strength and muscle i've gained. Its very depressng to see actors etc being able to "cut" and still look huge and muscular. Then attempting it yourself and looking nowhere near them. So youre stuck between bulking up to look muscly, but with people body shaming you as "chubby" or cutting down to look "fit" in the summer but skinny in clothes. Its just this grey zone that you cannot have both, but media keeps telling us you should have both.
Christ man, what a powerful video. I was so close to falling down this rabbit hole a few years ago. I cannot imagine the mental pressure your average young adult has to deal with these days. I wish I could take every guy suffering with body image issues to the gym, and to teach them how fun and rewarding it can be, without the need to look like a fitness model. Fantastic work as always! You’re a legend, dude!
Holy crap, Gehab! It’s good to see you’re still around. I recently just started going to the gym because I don’t wanna be so skinny, but honestly I’m really enjoying it just for the feeling you get afterwards. It is really tough tho because you see all the super jacked people on social media and it’s hard not to compare yourself to them.
@@keen8087In my opinion, you should ignore all these perfect fitness influencers you see on social media and simply have fun with your routine and on your journey to develop a better-looking physique. You don't need to do everything perfectly. As long as you stay consistent and focused, you will see your body slowly transform and, after a couple of years, you will be amazed with how far you've come and incredibly proud of yourself. You will never have a physique like Chris Hemsworth's or Chris Evans's, but you don't need to, and you shouldn't try to anyway. You'll look pretty damn amazing regardless.
@@makhundred I am skinny and I feel good. Great? No, I could take more care of my skin and my hair, and get some muscles, but I will never fall down this stupid rabbit hole. I will never overdo myself or take any drug, ever. your problem and that of many men and women is one of insecurity, and ironically enough it will never end by going down said rabbit hole. as the video said, you will desire more and more without end in sight
Many young men are fumbling around in the dark because they're so confused about what they're supposed to be. What a man is supposed to be. Some, in their searching, are ensnared by dangerous ideals. Ideals pushed onto them as answers to that question. "Hypermasculinity", this obsession with bodily aesthetics, is one of them. Be careful out there, friends. Don't hurt yourselves. Whether in body, mind or spirit. I know it's sometimes hard to realize who you are, and to be comfortable with it, to own who you are. It's hard to conquer yourself. I know that. But I know you can do it, without harming yourself. I truly believe that we all can.
Society seems to think only women can have body dysmorphia. But ever since I was a young teenager, I've looked at all the superheroes and athletes thinking that these bodys were naturally obtainable. I'd sometimes only eat 800 calories a day, or work out insanely hard and never understand why I didn't look like them. Then I finally understood that these self-proclaimed "natural" bodies weren't naturally obtainable. That the people I've tried so hard to look like were on drugs, all while saying that they just work really hard. Sure they worked hard, but that's just one side of it. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronnie Colman, Chris Hemsworth, the Rock, Sylvester Stallone, Zac Efron, Jason Momoa, and even Joe Rogan, with most of these being confirmed. It's quite depressing, actually.
I wonder what would even result after enough awareness is spread. People aren't going to change their instincts. In the west the way our system and culture promotes individualism, materialism, and all the other superficial manifestations of it are also a large contributor to our primitive behavior, but it's also merely another layer of manifestation/symptom of our human instincts - the real cause. Something like the "halo" effect will never change. If you're born a certain way, good or bad, your life will be vastly different whether you like it or not. The only way to get around it is by improving our means to cope while minimizing the bad. I hope one day we can see family values being more of a thing, but it feels like we're never getting there.
Honestly, I really needed this video. At just about 26 years old, I’m a little bit overweight and I’ve done calisthenics in order to help me manage it as well as walking and doing push-ups and I look in the mirror and still feel kind of inadequate at times. Was actually just thinking about that and then this video popped up in my feed. This video was a literal Godsend.
I know the feeling, brother. Trust me I do. I would recommend getting into a real gym alongside calisthenics, because you’ll start seeing more results. More muscle and regular hard exercise will make you look but also feel a lot better. Just make sure to eat healthy and take care of yourself, yeah?
All humans want to be better or be different no matter what. Social media is what makes it worse, and overall stress and embarrassment, us as humans always want to be able to impress others and ourselves, but we love attention from others, so we desperately do anything to fit in to let alone be better before even knowing what others want.
I work out and i enjoy it. I do it to blow off steam and be as healthy as my body will allow. This is why PED’s have never crossed and will never cross my mind. Do I sometimes wish i looked better? Yes. Do I know that my muscles dont define me? Yes. Working out is a race only against yourself and yourself alone. Comparison is the theif of joy. If you are watching others outlift you just remember that you are limited by genetic factors and time and hard work can get you where you want to go. Just make sure that your reasons for working out are pure. It shouldnt be to just get big and look like the rock. Thats not sustainable and can lead to poor choices. Your health must always be above your looks.
You are doing great work with this channel Josh. People need videos like this. I spent half my life chasing these unrealistic goals, battling anorexia, body dysmorphia and depression. It's taken me until my 40s to accept what you're telling us here.
Im 15 and a pretty skinny guy.I dont do weightlifting alot,but instead do cardio and calisthenics for basketball,so i do not have a six pack,i do not have the biggest biceps, i do not have the biggest chest and i dont do steroids (and never will).Im proud of the way my body is and to everyone out there,look at yourself and make a goal for yourself,dont do it to like be someone else.Stay natural!
I'm 22 now, been in sports all through school and lifting since 7th grade. All of that never made me really big. It took ageing and becoming a larger human to put on significant muscle from training, literally 'growing up'. 135 lbs your age and 195 now. My body at 15 would never be able to be this big, not naturally or healthily. High school boys aren't meant to be adult heavy unless they are an outlier in height. Keep centring physical developments around a sport or hobby you enjoy. I hope you maintain that positive attitude; it'll be a stark reminder to you when you feel lost at times how to act, as we young men stomp our path through life.
I'm 35, a 5'6, 150 pound guy who has been lifting for half my life. The fact that I'm a smaller framed guy, the constant feeling of not being big enough, no matter how much I lift, or how many hours I put in at the gym, it's a constant struggle.
Yeah had the same even tho I’m 6ft 220lbs, a lot of guys feels this even the bigger ones, the issue is comparing myself to others. Didn’t feel good until I stopped comparing and started to focus on myself more and felt good again. You’re all good bro
This is something that women have been dealing with for centuries. I believe it has of course been for men also, it just was never so prominant in our culture. Men could get away with being less attractive by being successful in other ways.
YES! please make more videos talking about this to dilute the unhealthy images being spread online. i'm a woman so i was not aware of this issue on a deep level, but this video really enlightened me. i can only imagine how much this video would help young men who are feeling insecure due to unrealistic body standards of celebrities.
Thank you, Josh, for bringing up Edward Bernays in this! A college professor of mine published a biography of him right before I took his class. After that, I see Edward Bernays's influence everywhere. More people should, frankly.
Kids aren't fooled easily. Most know those extreme six-packs and huge muscles often involve steroids, and that's no big surprise. Still, getting inspired by fitness influencers isn't all bad. It gets people moving, aiming to better themselves, not necessarily to look exactly like them. It's more about the push to be healthier, and that's pretty cool.
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Thankful for your presence on 'the scene.' Your content is truly refreshing and brings shadowed issues to light. Kudos, and keep going!
As you toalk about the halo effect I'm just sitting here thinking "This Josh guy is pretty."
OOO my GOD something that im sayng for more than a decade. Women beuty standarts take a bath and dont eat like a hipo. Men beuty standarts 5 years of perfect diet, perfect gym and perfect use of steroids with luck to get the genetics. And they do all this to atrract a mediocre used Wh ore.
Please I've gone to a sporting event with a slim Jim body out running super super soldier bodies when I was in my division pace
Lifting 300 lb more than body weight, I would jump out of bed to do 1000 super squats with ten pounds weights, and farmers marching with 90 lb bench bar before I went headed towards a job, or did yard work with elderly all day
beauty isnt so subjective, thsi is just demoralizing subversion
If you're a natural lifter suffering from body dysmorphia, just walk down a beach in America. You'll instantly remember that social media isn't reality and you're probably doing better than 90% of people your age. (Does not apply to muscle beach, only go there if you need to be humbled)
disregarding that most people on the beach don't care how their body looks and therefore you've entered a rat race with yourself.
@@rainchopper898facts
The problem is comparing yourself to other people to begin with. Only compare yourself to yourself
@@yoeyyoey8937 That's how I came to do sports during adolescence. I did nearly nothing during my teens other than playing games lol.
@@VVabsa Nice good job 👍 you’re doing the work
I always thought that the ideal male natural physique was not that warped, until some friends and people at the gym told me they genuinely thought that The Rock is natty. My mind was blown.
I remeber telling a female friend the rock wasnt natty and she said smth along the lines of "but he works really hard"
Same as those in regard to Mike OHearn 🤣
I mean....we saw those girls refer to Chris heckin Bumstead as a "dad-bod" .....pretty confident in saying the physique standards are more warped than Salvador Dali's pocketwatch.
It doesn’t matter what people think, only reality. Irl people respond well when you look big and strong and they are kinda nonplussed when you are too lean or look like a ifbb pro
@@columodonnell9202he probanly does، just enanced
"Looking good means nothing, if you don't feel good"
If you have a lot of money you mean)
i can say i feel good i feel like the video doesnt get it, we dont work out for others, we work out for the body WE want, theres nothing wrong with that if thats what keeps us motivated
except looking good has a very high correlation with feeling good...i never knew a fat man or woman who was happier than one who is cut up or well defined or toned...
Bullshit
@@Dell4834Elaborate
I was originally pursuing a degree in Media and Communications - the day I learned it all comes down to exploiting insecurities is the day I quit.
Sounds like u was studying advertising
Everything is based on exploitation of something or someone.. we cant escape that.. its our sad reality
@@nomanejane5766 I have a degree in Journalism (with comunications, because in my university you couldn't do one without another, and its easy to know why) and he's right. Lots of things on Communication and media, and not just advertising, are about highjacking your mind, explore pre-conceptions of the world and society you don't even know are in your mind, built in by years of societal reinforcement that has nothing to do (today a lot is, but wasn't always this way) with media, and using to make the message get to you. Some faculties and disciplines are more or less agressive. But communication is all about studying how information spreads through various forms of medium from the paper to the internet, the Advertising to the real world conversations and how different paths lead to different interpretations. Mostly of the biggest advances in communications and Media (not only the technological ones) were made at wars of after wars. Because successfully influencing ppl is a big asset. No matter what faculty of communication you study, it all comes to explore how ppl's mind work in your favor. I honestly agree with the guy, i just couldn't quit for personal reasons.
@@nomanejane5766 Advertising was sadly the only subject viewed by the curriculum as a viable career - and advertising is in everything - so yeah, I guess the degree was rather misleading.
@@fredsifyableI'm sorry to hear that.
We can’t all look like Grizzly. These standards need to end
I will never be FULL :(
I don't care for muscular guys. Many women don't want that. I just want you to be kind, respectful, and care for yourself. Because men have focused on the wrong things, I'm still single at 28.
Edit: I said many. Not most. There are other factors as to why I'm single, yes. But a big portion of it is that men are focusing on the things I'm not looking for. Its just a fact. Sorry if facts offend your feelings but thats just reality. It might also be that I'm not looking to be a breeding factory for men as I do not want kids. But who knows. All I saw were the same issues I see in men. Lack of accountability and accusing me of exactly what has been happening. There is nothing wrong with me as to my preferences. I'm not being picky at all. My preferences are just that, preferences. I don't see how butthurt the majority of yall got over this. Its just a rando comment on YT. Lol
We are forever MOGGED by thine Bloat Lord. We never had a chance…
For real..... his forearms are larger than most people's quads
@@SparklySarah you're making excuses
On the height surgery thing. I work for a company that packages those rods. We had a doctor come in for a tour of our facility. And I asked him what his thoughts on it were? He said this verbatim. "I've only ever used these on car crash victims, and people with limb deformities. Outside of that I think any doctor who goes along with using them outside of that scope should lose their license" think about it like this most people want to avoid being in the circumstances that require those rods at all costs.
They have elevator shoes online that will add five inches to your height. A lot easier.😮
It's my only hope as a 4'11 male
@MangyPL to be what? A 5'4 male? Dude, if you want to do it, I can't stop you. But you'll still be in the same boat with metal rods in your legs. Also, there's a high chance you'll never walk again. And for what? to impress people who could care less if you get hit by a bus tomorrow?
@shiloh1994 that would at least make me the average female height , instead of 5 inches below it. 4'11 is 4'0 in females eyes.
@MangyPL so you're willing to possibly cripple yourself so that women will pay attention to you? Bro, this surgery has a high complication rate, and you'll be even shorter if you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.
A child having Rippling muscles is the most disturbing thing I've seen this year. OH MY GOD.
Truth 💯
Facts
That kid should be playing Mario kart with his friends 😢
W BODY SHAMING!!!!
@@rgeurts8836 no, it not that, its just that the child has probably given up its childhood for some fame, money and glory that will just go to the parents, and retain nothing afterwards. its like beaty pageants but instead of the feminine its the masculine, and both are bad. idk if your comment was under one level, or two of sarcasm but if i read it right it was basically "ah yes, please insult a literal child" and please correct me if i was wrong about that. and if you meant that i hope i changed your mind.
I am happy you are talking about this. I am a mother of 1 girl and 2 boys, and body shaming goes both ways. I want my children to grow up healthy (mentally and physically). Not focus on how they look but who they are.
maybe i wont look like gigachad without steroids but i wont know until I try .
You buy clothes to look good? You workout to look good along with a myriad of other benefits like stronger mentality, reduced stress and depression, etc
It’s been painfully obvious for some time now that body positivity is only for women and girls
@@Dabby724 For real. I am all about self love and acceptance but not to the point of cognitive dissonance. The path of least resistance is to do these relatively normal, low effort things such as dressing well, eating well and exercise. Demographics vary but in many places, I'd say 90% of the population fails at this. Simply having an attractive appearance and (true) self confidence will carry people VERY far in life! Actual confidence can only come from achievement and the willingness to do difficult things, otherwise it is fleeting.
yes but looks matter. we are animals and judge based on looks first, everything else second. especially girls. no guy chooses a girl for her brains if she is ugly. be realistic instead of lying to your kids
As an older guy who’s lifted naturally for 25 years, I’m glad to see people start talking about this. I was a very skinny guy growing up and was self-conscious about it. I started lifting at 18 but was never even tempted to use steroids or other dangerous substances. In fact, the culture overall very much discouraged it. It was desirable to be muscular, but nobody was shooting for pro bodybuilder physiques except for pro bodybuilders. It worries me to see so many young guys doing this to themselves, and striving for such unrealistic goals. Young guys, especially, can achieve VERY nice results naturally. Looking around online it’s horrifying how many high school kids are on gear.
I know, when you're online it seems everyone is doing gear now, even for the women, especially in America for women
@@user-cz9jj2em2v that's because you actually go off cycle unlike some of these idiotic teenagers doing steroids
@@user-cz9jj2em2v how do you look at yourself in the mirror after writing such a misleading comment?
@@user-cz9jj2em2v You can't make a blanket statement like that about something that very clearly can be dangerous. I know you're obviously aware it can be done in a less-damaging way, but that doesn't mean you can just say, "steroids aren't dangerous." It's like if I said, "alcohol isn't dangerous" on a video about alcohol abuse, just because I know I'm able to drink moderately.
@@user-cz9jj2em2v I appreciate your great response and I don't think you're being stupid. You just were applying your own experience to other people who are all very different from yourself without thinking about it that way. It's an easy mistake we all make often.
I'm glad you had a proper role model to help you do things in a safer way. Keep doing what you're doing and stay safe brother.
"Self improvment is supposed to enhanace yourself as a person. Not replace yourself."
As someone who ended up in multiple psych wards due to starvation induced psychosis and becoming overly obsessed with feeling the need to look a certain way JUST to deserve love or attention.. This quote really hit me hard.
Jesus that hit hard.
It really did hit me hard too 😞
you did not go through allat, lyin ass nga
I never got that far in my eating disorder (had a few staya for Depression), but yeah, my whole self worth osbofy image related.
That's why self improvement is masturbation
Not even Adonis looked as ripped as most of the bodybuilders today man.
Same goes for old paintings of the god Thor, who as one of his titles is the god of strength has a similar physique to Sean Connery in his body building days.
@@desgroidthat can be said to every male statue made.
I will say rhat the muscle limit may have been much less during that era. Still, I find it strange how there’s an over idolization of body building.
He's god of wine or something, not god of acne, joint pain and megalocardia (heart condition where it becomes so big that it can't pump blood properly)
@@mariachi3217 no, they just werent able to train as efficient and didnt had the proper diet for todays physiques, they surely had the same muscle limit
One thing not mentioned in this video is the fact that 80% of men who go on dating websites are incapable of getting a successful date. So there is a never-ending pressure to get more muscular to try to attract women.
Exactly. That's the real issue.
Don't go there then?
This. It’s a problem created by selfish women
@@mistertwisty1693 not really, there are just way more men on dating apps/sites.
@mistertwisty1693 most women don't really care that much about big muscles tbh
Boys
Please limit or cut out social media use entirely
Its damaging to your mind and self image
Social media is absolutely cancer
It's not if your mentally stable for teens I'll agree but for both genders, the funniest is the things you see aren't even attractive for the other gender do you look at a girl after 20 beauty operations and aay wow thats hot no you think jesus is this woman ugly same goes for guys on steroids most woman find it unattractive being lean and fitt is attractive brad pit fight club, most gymnasts or climbers not being a fucking orc
@@haveabossdaydelete you tube stop coping😊
1000% couldnt agree more the less i use it the better i feel
Absolutely!! People need to realize this. I’m in much better state of mind after deleting instagram and dating apps. Not to mention, I am spending more time with my family. The joy that it gives is real.
"Comparison is the thief of joy." Go exercise and enjoy your own individual progress because every body is unique.
yap. reach a body that you are content with, and you can keep up without ruining your life.
I'm unique in a way of how fucking useless I am at everything ☺
@@mikonson4091you're not bro I believe in you!
Just do kinobody. Its 3 hours per week . The guy is the einstein of fitness
@@sunderark you don't know me
"Hey mom I want to be a doctor"
"To help people I'm so proud of you"
"No to prey on people's low self-esteem and makes tons of money"
A very close friend of mine ended up in the hospital for about six weeks due to anorexia. Even now, she has to be so careful that she's eating enough and it's scary. People need to realize what's healthy is a middle point, not any of the super muscular "alpha males" and not obesity, but somewhere in between.
Does she have a father figure?
I mean your whole identity seems to be terraria, so I'm guessing that's unstable too - but it's not as damaging as literal starvation.
@@revisit8480 yes, she has a father figure, from what i can tell they have a great relationship. why the comment about terraria? it really doesn't seem relevant.
@@revisit8480 Bro having or not having a father figure has nothing to due with this.
The Luke Skywalker doll actually makes me mad on a story level, not because it is setting bad standards. Luke in the beggining of a new hope is a scrawny teenager. He’s not an action hero, and even when he becomes one, he doesn’t have to be extremely physically strong, since much of his power comes from force augmentation. He also hasn’t trained for nearly long enough to be able to have that physique, even by the end of The Empire Strikes Back.
Exactly his greatest strength was never his physical strength, but rather his mental strength and knowledge with the force lol. Glad I wasn’t the only one.
Agreed, it’s really dumb
It's a piece of plastic
Yoda one of the most powerful Jedi masters is hardly a muscle bound midget, muscularity and height had nothing to do with being a jedi.
@@lesslycarthan956 We’re all just having a friendly discussion on something that interested us in the short?
I see so many people saying "MEN HAVE IT WORSE" or "WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE", it's such a pointless fight, it doesn't matter who has it worse, no one should be suffering, no one should feel like they can't speak up and say what's bothering them. Let's encourage each other and not downplay someone's issues, we all have something that's bothering us, some just show it less.
You didn’t watch the video
@@professinalweeabootrash5254
What do you mean?
@@professinalweeabootrash5254their point stands. guys still hurt a lot of women with jokes and teasing of how they look. were just absolutely blind to it and im
saying this as a GUY. im no feminist nor masculinist but i fall more under humanist. but theres no metric to measur
@@jazzwazzo9659 He addresses this argument in the video.
@@jazzwazzo9659 pov you didn't even read the comment lmao. He's talking about you kind of people only
His gf: JOSH ARE YOU LOOKING AT HALF NAKED MEN AGAIN??
John: *frantically slams laptops screen* noooooooo….
The ideal male physique is for me a healthy body. I don’t understand the obsession with looks. I’m in a relationship for over 10 years and our looks changed so much…
Never had a gf and im 20, i feel like its never gonna happen so i just gave up the idea.
The standards just seem unreachable for me and always increasing aswell.
@@DegenLeo glaub mir 20 Jahre ist kein Alter. Du musst keine Standards erfüllen und einer breiten Masse an Menschen gefallen. Du musst nur der Einen gefallen und es gibt zu 100% mindestens eine Frau die dich einfach perfekt findet und dich von Herzen liebt.
As I’ve (f, 18) begun to become more entrenched in gym culture, I’ve developed a decent amount of “gym bro” friends. The body dysmorphia is insane. I have a guy friend who boxes and legit looks like rocky from the rocky movies and he’s STILL unhappy with himself, and it’s so sad to see. I really really hope he doesn’t go down a dangerous path.
Try sleeping with him and see if that helps him
I was at the gym yesterday and saw some guy who looked like Adonis. Wonderful proportions, long, muscular limbs, shredded abs, and the guy talked with his friend about how small and weak he feels
If he looks like Rocky, he's already well on a dangerous path instead of just near one. Remember, "Rocky" was a boxer, but Stallone was a bodybuilder with a physique completely unrelated and partly counterproductive to boxing. Your friend is already sabotaging the sport to chase a physique, without even touching the fact that one doesn't get to look anything like Stallone without doing the things he (and others like him) did.
@@skillzilla111bruh tf
@@juannaym8488 Imagine if he was 5’2? I am, and I’m still standing. How can he feel horrible when people like me exist?
The issue for male bodybuilding standards is almost entirely due to the fake Natty's. You see lots of fitness influencers that are shredded benching 315 like it's nothing and people can't help but feel inadequate in comparison
Well bodybuilding is all drugs anyways. Just focus on getting and being stronger
good point! the fake nattys make something that is close to impossible seem like something you would be lazy loser not to achieve.
not really, even if steroids didnt even exist there would be genetic freaks who would be on top of the fitness industry spreading unrealistic standards.
It's bodybuilding it's to get as big as possible nobody ever said that's attractive (besides a lot of gay guys) or that healthy if you want to be attractive for females be lean and have a sixpack that's all you have to do at a certain size you are getting more and more unattractive for females same as females get more and more unattractive the more beauty ops they done.
Edit: okay Hollywood says that shit but that's just a bunch of lunatics and they also said Lizzo is attractive,
Its simple natural you WILL NEVER BE LEAN AND BIG. You have to pick one be good looking with cloths or without it. If the guy its big and lean hes on it.
When you get to the science of for exame size of arm natural can get majority of peak natural will be 38cm. And theres legends of the pre steroids era body building with 43. But majority will never hit 39cm.
I think i have fallen into this trap. I never had a problem with my body until a lot of people kept saying i was skinny or a toothpick, and im not even anorexic either. Ive had an on and off problem with wanting to get bigger vs accepting myself as i am but when i look in the mirror at times sometimes i say im too skinny and i want to be bigger but i see that it comes from me saying "im tired of people calling me skinny". So the problem is that im still holding on to those skinny insults years later...
Little secret, when I see a skinny dude I know he’s packing. Just my experience…
So glad I grew up without any social media.
Ya but people into fitness back then just read magazines and websites full of fake natties. Can't believe I thought protein powder made those drugged out bodies.
You had it good really. Though face book became big when I was about 13-14 I never used any of it and I could not be happier for it. Sure I had facebook to chat with friends but I never scrolled through it. Never had instagram or twitter or whatever. And I pretty much live normally, happy with not many problems. Social anxiety saved me from this mess and I love it.
Height shaming in America is considered hilarious at best, and normal at worst. The average 5'9 male is routinely derided as short, unmanly, and so hopelessly inferior that men - particularly celebrities and comic - will preemotively denigrate themselves as a defense mechanism. It's so endemic that achieving a near-unattainable physique is as likely to net you scorn as "trying to compensate" if you aren't puahing 6 feet or taller.
Ehh, my husband is like 5'9" and no one would call him short. Not that I would care if he was.
I've dated short men and know tons of lovely, married, short men. No one else cares, really.
I am 5´9 in one of the worlds tallest countries (Norway). I am just below average statistically here. I have only been called short by a dude who was 6 foot 2. And now that I am older and wiser I have realized that I have had a huge amount of female attention, and still do. But because I thought my height was a problem, I never bothered to escalate.
And MAN did I miss some chances, it will torture me for the rest of my life.
@@jessa5388 I'm 5'8 and have routinely been called short my entire life. I know guys who are 5'10 that also get called short. Not that it bothers me but it is definitely a thing
@@Will-qx9vm not sure about all countries, but I would guess statistically it's just slightly below the average in the most countries, 70-80% of women are shorter than that, so they should be perfectly fine with your height, there's definitely a cult of height in the US, if you look at the memes, you need to be an actual giant to be considered "tall enough".
@@melodi996 Right, but the craziest part is this: most of those women can't really guess peoples height accurately in real life if they are shorter than said man. Especially if the height difference is significant, so I have read stories about people getting interest from their date in real life, just not on tinder. It is just so silly.
And btw most of the women who was keen on my have been slightly taller than me, or same height or just a tad shorter. I don't know what is up with that, it seems women care less when they themself are a tall woman (5'9 is ofc tall for a womam, even here) but the really short ones want to be with Shaq O'neill types.
“I realized the hard way that looking good means nothing if you don’t feel good” this quote definitely describes my on and off workout routines I’ve had for a couple years
I was always pretty thin but still somewhat fit but a few years ago I felt pressured by society and other guys to bulk up to be "healthier" and attract girls. So I tried to gain weight and more upper body muscles which was fine but ever since then I got a lot more exhausted when running or biking or just in general and I couldn't figure out why until I realized that it was likely just the extra mass/muscle that was taking more oxygen/energy out of me! And that was just a relatively small change - I can't imagine how much worse I'd feel if I had kept that up and pushed myself to look like a lot of other gym bros/muscle heads!
@@Bristecom I agree! When I started my fitness journey at 21 years old it was because I wanted to join the coast guard and I had to be able to run a 1.5 mile in 12:51. After finally being able to reach that time goal it’s become second nature for me to put cardio above all else and do everything as clean as I can
Exactly. I do it because im full of energy and feel good on the days outside of gym. Not to look great
@@Bristecom Sounds like you didn't compensate for the extra work with more protein
Define "feel good"
Been there🤦♂️ you become obsessed with food intake, gym sets. I ruined family holidays because I was always in the gym or running. I’ve missed out on family parties to avoid the food and drink…..oh,,and I became dependent on coke to have a good time🤦♂️
i hope you're doing better now
Yep and the rebound was absurd… I went from tracking every single ounce of calories and macros to stuffing my face with food again. 2-3 years later I’m still struggling to get back into good shape from the after effects of that rebounded dirty bulk
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Josh, as an exercise scientist I can earnestly say that this is one of the most important messages that modern society needs to address. Kudos to you for daring to speak out. This is essential viewing for every young man.
It really isn’t.
Wait there's a scientist for exercise, wth
@@emeraldeyesinthesand8355 --there is a scientist for everything.
@@GoldenMushroom64 Yeah most people are fat. Worse this will do is make them by protein powder for a week and then forget about it.
@@GoldenMushroom64 Something tell me you have a twitter account.
the issue is that we can’t just stop comparing ourselves to others and all of those other pieces of advice because for those in high school, the girls they want are comparing them to those instagram models
They did it to women first, and now they're doing it to men. As a middle aged woman who used to have an eating disorder due to unrealistic beauty standards, I tell you this: it's not worth it. The way you look is really much less important than you imagine. It's not worth losing your health over it. Work on yourself to be an interesting and kind person, work on your hobbies, have a job that fulfills you. Be interested in other people, view them as persons, not objects. And you'll be alright in life.
well, the diference is nowadays we are domimated by an era of image and hipergamy more than ever, if you are a young, even mid-aged guy and you want to have a minimum of success with women in dating apps and similars you need to be almost like a fitness model since in these apps only have success a 10% of guys. Depends of your enviromemt sometimes is the best chance to meet women around. if you dont pass that filter you dont have even the chance to show how good, kind, smart, whatever u are in live. It´s an oversimplification but is like that
@@yisusferro603 Maybe dating apps are not the way to go then?
I always wondered how they even succeeded in doing it to people since the vast majority of men actually don't like the super skinny female "starved model" look, just as the vast majority of women don't like the super bulked-up male "gym freak" look. Women and men alike strive for a body that's not even the ideal/prefered one in the eyes of the opposite s3x, that's what's really crazy.
@@frusia123 as I said nowadays for many men is almost the only choice. Most of my daily life at job, hobbies, social circle and the area where I live is made out a 75% of dicks vs 25% women (lot of them old and/or not very femenine)
you're very sweet for saying this. Maybe one day something will happen that will change how I see myself and these things. But I know my place in the ranking, I know I'm truly invisible and meaningless where I live and others' violence and lust will prevail over my silly passions, ideals and dreams. It's easy to get punched in the face the first x years of your life figuratively or literally, for doing something wrong at home or in public. My thoughts and feelings mean nothing to anybody other than me. I don't have friends, family or a partner I could talk to about these anyways, other than maybe one friend whom I don't want to lose. How many years before that truly changes, I don't know. There are many more handsome people than me and how easy it is to sell someone something with that as your advantage is clear. If anyone could become an actor in a main role it would be them, not me. I mean come on how can i compare to a 7ft2 bodybuilder that also has a medical degree and a huge lumberjack beard. I'm 6ft2. I feel like a small child back in school when i set foot in the gym. My degree also socially means nothing compared to a doctor.
Anyways. if Tomorrow i woke up in my dream body. I don't know what I would do. I guess sometimes when i go to a place where I stand out I just hate how now people look at me. It wasn't that way in school. Probably I'd be overwhelmed and end it all even sooner realising I can only start living life this late.
I appreciated this video. You mention GIJoe vs. Barbie. And I often thought it was strange as a comic book fan in the 80s that all the focus was on unrealistic female standards when we had male standards like Clark Kent and Peter Parker in comics. There are zero versions of Clark Kent or Peter Parker that aren't absolutely ripped and gorgeous, yet young boys were told these were "nerds" because they wore glasses and didn't run around in tights flashing their completely unrealistic musculature.
Barbie isn’t even some bimbo either. She’s just a normal woman for like 30+ years ago.
@@kadenkohl782 Neither Superman or Spider-Man were that jacked in the beginning. Superman still had an attainable, drug-free looking physique well into the 1970s based on bodybuilders like Steve Reeves. Ditko and Romita Spidey especially wasn't big by any stretch of the imagination. In fact he isn't now, really. Or wasn't last time I looked.
@@Charlie_Duz he was always big for a spider
@@Charlie_Duzdid you not see the newest Superman movies? Guy looks huge
And how are we suffering because of this? I'm not a ripped masculine chad. So what? Do I need to attack hierarchies and ideals because of that? This is not about you.
I grew up with a mother who criticized my lack of masculine bulk when I was in my early teens even as guys at the feed store expressed amazement by how strong I was for my age. I carried multiple bags of horse feed with surprising ease. My exercise of choice was riding BMX bikes in the woods around our house, a cardio sport that doesn't bulk muscles. Now in my mid-50s, I still have the endurance athlete's leaner musculature. My main exercises have always been cardio, but I've added strength training for bone health. I told my children -- daughters and sons -- to develop healthy relationships with food and exercise and aimed to teach them what that is step-by-step. I made sure they knew every sport and physical activity from archery to Zumba will develop the body differently, and every body will look different.
Seems like you raised them right and for that I have the highest respect for you 🫡
Always the oldheads giving an unrelated and irrelevant anecdote to very subtlety and discreetly toot their own horn. What does the fact that “guys were impressed with how many feed bags you could carry” have anything to do with how you raised your children?
@@oskarklingest5682 they were admired and it made him feel proud, it changed the way he was thinking about health and fitness.
Mean mother
Sounds like your mother was jealous and bitter..... Same phenomenon as mothers hating their daughters out of jealousy.
As a woman, I’ve never really considered men being bombarded with the same crap we get, with regards to body image….i feel kind of ignorant now…
I will say to all the guys reading this, most women know the juiced up physiques are not natural and not looking for that kind of a body…but I wish younger boys and young adult men could hear that more
There’s self improvement and then there’s vanity
When people train for performance instead of cartoonish aesthetic standards, good things happen.
No they don't. People on gear get better results and the noble natties stay small forever while wasting money on programs that don't work to get results that don't matter. The answer is to legalize steroids so that we can have a safer and more regulated market.
The attitude of banning all the things failed with booze and failed with weed. At this point there is no rational argument to keep these drugs illegal.
Facts🤌
You can greatly damage your body chasing performance as well. Let people chase the goals they want
Chasing performance can also lead to the same problems if people are trying to be The Best at any cost. I mean, just look at drug use in athletes.
Just train and exercise for health, and create reasonable performance goals to give some extra motivation, and be happy with whatever aesthetic changes happen with your body in the mean time.
@@officialrohinmusic Sure, let people get into the rabbit hole of the dangers pointed out in the video. If they want it, they should do it, freedom and all that
The Rock is particularly problematic. Not only in terms of body goals, but ageing body goals. No doubt he has great genetics, but his body must be a chemistry lab at this point, and no-one will call him out on it until his health declines (which will likely happen suddenly and dramatically) as a result of it.
If you want aging goals, look to the late Jack LaLanne.
Unfortunately his wealth may protect him from the worst of the consequences, leaving anyone not swimming in money with the mistaken belief that what he has done is healthy.
The Rock looks 62 and he's only 52.
Yeah the Rocks situation is ridiculous. When he was in his 20s and early 30s he was big but not lean yet when he gets into his late 40s and 50s he is not only bigger than he’s ever been but much leaner! So yeah it’s obvious what he’s doing and I definitely get urges to jump on TRT(but higher than baseline doses) when I see guys like him
@@mateaukalua4426rock looks amazing as a 52 year old. Cmon man
Well done! Are you considering making this into a full length documentary? You absolutely should!
"there's no ideal male physique; it's what you perceive and believe"
Something needs to change, when I started bodybuilding I thought that by training hard and eating five meals a day it would make me look like a men's physique competitor, but what I learned through the process was that those goals were just unrealistic, just be the best version of yourself and enjoy the journey. Great video by the way!
Just do kinobody. Its 3 hours per week . The guy is the einstein of fitness
Women smoking was WORSE since our bodies tend to be more acidic than men
@@kathleenking47are you fucking comparing body dysmorphia what the hell?
I want to thank my 8th grade science teacher for absolutely destroying my idea of the ideal male body. We were learning about muscles, and she showed us pictures of bodybuilders and Olympic athletes. She explained that bodybuilders have bigger muscles because of steroids, but skinny athletes are often stronger because they train to improve the performance of their muscles, not their size. It blew my mind that bigger muscles didn't always mean more strength, and helped me not buckle under the pressure of influencers and mass media.
Bigger muscles looks aesthetically better. These dudes do it for the look. If you want strength you can be fat ass in gym that ego lifts. Think worlds strongest men competition it’s all obese dudes
Thats interesting..
good for ya :3
Steroids go both ways. Strength and muscle mass
The olympic athletes are on steroids lmfao. Your teacher had a good message but you literally do not become the best person on the planet at something naturally
Thank you for addressing male body dysmorphia. Yes, women have it too, but for once, can we just accept that this is a male issue too?
@user-zl1yq7qo1dnot everyone watches dragon ball, the cartoons I watched had all skinny and weak looking men.
Basically social media is hiding lies and reality in a world where most social activities happen online. The insecurity is planted deeply among most of us and it doesn't spare anyone :(
It's interesting to me how well received this video is compared to similar videos by Anita Sarkeesian on female representation in video games.
Men and women should stay clear of social media and focus on health. Being a healthy weight, getting regular exercize and adequate sleep will serve you right in all parts of life, and for a long time.
Hey man, the world is dark and cold. There’s a lot of liars and cheaters in this fitness community. But videos like this are what is needed in this age. We can’t wait for someone else to start speaking up about this. Thank you for making this and please never stop.
I am a 27 year old who has suffered with body dysmorphia my whole life. I lived with bullemia for years and Went down the path of sarms. I wish i had better influences going up and i hate myself for putting my body through that. I had a bad crash to my system after the sarms and i have been trying to recover for almost 2 years now. If anyone reading this is thinking about making a dumb decision like that, please dont. You all are special humans, you’re loved, you’re needed on this planet.
Bro your videos are incredible. There’s nobody else’s in the industry who makes videos as high equality as u do.
He's the Lemmino of the fitness industry, posts in large intervals but always comes through with top notch documentary quality
Editing is top tier.
But isnt it ironic that most of his thumbnails include this unrealistic male body standard. Kinda trying to profit off what he is bashing on in this video imo
@@nathanparish7122 no not really. All of them include people who are relevant to the topic on the video and the rest are his own transformations.
Quite the contrary, you just havent found em yet. But more quality is better than quantity i guess.
You know, when I've reached the part of the video where it said that it was taboo for women to smoke, I would say that's one hella positive taboo, because at the end of the day they avoid damaging or harming their body with smoking and avoiding it as a general harmful addiction, so at the end of the day, women did not miss out of anything except making the quality of their life better and healthier.
One of the epiphanies men need to have and really let it sink in is the fact that the overwhelming majority of women don’t care or worse are disgusted by the “ideal” male physique. This realization alone should relieve a lot of the pressure we men put on ourselves. Don’t become a gymcel.
This is why many guys, who strive to sculpt a perfect body are or realise they are gay. It gets to the point, where self-absorbtion is so high, you begin attract other men for various reasons (admiration, jealousy, love). This is my idea flow at the moment. I may be wrong, too.
@@winnied87 Interesting but I don’t think admiring the male physique equates to being sexually/romantically attracted to other men (gay). That’s almost like saying girls who admire female models are lesbians.
@@lucasy4790 It kinda gets there. Ladies don't want very muscular men and very muscular men find more support among other muscular men in that case and attraction builds up. Also, many muscular guys really are gay.
@@winnied87 Of course, there are more gay men relative to outside the community but still, the majority of men within the lifting community are straight men, typically (whether they admit it or not) train to look better to attract girls. (And please I know that there are are portion of people in the gym for sports or health reasons).
It’s just that we men, irrespective of the community, tend to compete amongst each other as a way to “stand out” (ie mogging). In the lifting community, we often compare each other how much we can lift, how big our arms are or how ripped we are when most women absolutely do not care about these parameters, very ironically.
@@winnied87such weird comments dude
"It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable" - Socrates
I workout for myself and for the physical and mental health benefits it provides. Will I ever be satisfied with how I look? Probably not, but I’ve made peace with that and am just enjoying the process.
Why not be satisfied? Things don’t need to be perfect to be satisfactory.
@@beatleswithaz6246why be satisfied when your dissatisfaction can fuel progress
@@sexmusichandleprogress always brings sacrifice. And sometimes there are things that it is not wort sacrifing, like you should never sacrifice your health. If anything i agree there should be things we can do to improve, but never take things too far.
@@alejandroromer1262 we must take things too far
Based
I have been training since i was 16. It's been 10 years now. I have never once even entertained the idea of PEDs.
I occasionally get comments saying "you don't look like you've trained that long". This typically comes from women or men who aren't into fitness. From their PoV if you don't look like The Rock or like an instagram roidhead influencer then you either:
1- haven't trained much
2- don't work hard enough
I am very happy with my body and what i have achieved. I also believe that i still have room to grow and improve - but i am probably somewhat close to my genetic maximum as a natty. People have such a warped perception of what is achievable naturally that it sometimes really hurts.
It is not laziness. It is staying natural.
the lamest yet best compliment i get is from people who haven't seen me in a long time. Dude you look like you did in high school. late 40s now bout 14%bf. I may not be jacked like the kids in the gym but if they live to my age they'll be lucky. keep it natty
I feel like this is so strange, i have been training for the last 8 years, natty. I am 6 foot 1 (185 cm for the europeans) weigh around 95 kg and like 15-18 % Body fat so i have abs but no veins and since i dont skip and go 4-5 Times per week plus cardio i feel like this is my maximum, still most women dont know how much pain and work i put into it and of course they notice to them its no big deal since women allways look like they have a nice body unless they are anorexic or overweight...
Mate, don't take it as an insult. Because only recently did I realise that without a pump, not even the shredded people just walk around looking like that. I've also seen countless before and afters of a guy visibly gaining 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months. Again, only recently did I find out that a lot of those people are using steriods and such. So to a person like me who is not a man, and also knows fuck all about working out, your results seem "pathetic" when you compare them to other men who have bulging after only 4 weeks of going to the gym. They're speaking from a place of ignorance, don't take it to heart.
I have a very good male friend. We used to go to the same gym and he lived in my neighbourhood from childhood, went to the same kindergarden. He was a chubby kid and I think got bullied a lot. He decided to become a personal trainer, was madly into fitness videos and lifestyle. I had a major illness and I got into fitness for health reasons and I remember I thought how crazy he was spending everyday in the gym like it’s no tomorrow, also his workouts were really forceful and over the top imo. He forced food inside of him to “bulk” then overtime he only ended up a little bit muscular, but kinda chubby again. (i think he clearly had a binge eating disorder sort of) My mom came to the gym one day and straight out said he was fat. Over the years I realised he was insecure from all the bullying in his childhood, he fell in love with a girl wo had a sh*tty personality and wanted to be ideal for her. Yet in the end he did not end up looking like all the guys in the gym who were doing steroids obviously. He looks really haggard nowadays, all the forceful training aged him badly, has a dead end job and no girlfriend in sight.
What about yourself? You started training for health reasons. Do you maintain a healthy approach or have you dipped into steroid realm?
Mahn, I do hope he gets better and his life progresses.
This is what's in store for most men. This is what Western society has propagated. When everything falls, and our birth rates plummet, hopefully we can build back a society worth living in.
I was criticized and laughed for being too skinny when I was younger. This made me gain fat, and then I was criticized for being fat. I rarely compared myself to social media, mostly to people in real life and I still feel inadequate. This led to body dysmorphia and being afraid of negative judgement. I've got health problems because I was so disconnected with myself. No one says something good about my body, Im constantly trying to improve it and for the past years thats the goal im focused on all the time however its very hard to achieve something. I always feel that everyone expects my body to look a certain way that is acceptable for a male. I'm so tired with this, I just wanna feel normal. Sadly my friends dont seem interested in congratulating me for my hard work even when I say I need it
Going to watch this video with my 3 teenage sons to start a conversation about realistic physique goals. Thanks for your hard work on this, Josh. Your content is so valuable.
Just do kinobody. Its 3 hours per week . The guy is the einstein of fitness
i have 3 kinda 4 goals. get rid of severe excess body fat, severe imo. get rid of gynecomastia from adhd meds as a child, or atleast thats what i blame lol, and to be capable of making it out there. need t o he able to pull up several times, do dips, run for an hour straight without slowing down or stopping at the very least. realistic goals imo. things that are pretty much necessary living out in the wildernesss.
Yes please do, starting the conversation with your boys is the best thing you can do. Even if they seem negative or indifferent to the message, they pick up on what you try to convey to them!
@@twilightsparkle75 those are good and healthy goals
I hope it goes well. The most important thing is that they understand that the bodybuilders on stage and the models on IG look like that for only a couple of days, after going to extremes to get there. Once the competition or photo shoot is over, they lose a lot of that extreme look. Make sure they're not comparing themselves to those people.
Secondly, make sure they understand how catastrophic it can be if they take steroids at a young age. It can permanently shut down their endocrine system, and their testosterone production for the rest of their lives. Supplements, protein powder, all that is fine, but anything that messes with hormones is dangerous for anyone under 25 at a MINIMUM.
Looking good for 6 months is not worth being unable to produce testosterone and regulate their hormones for the rest of their lives.
The root of disappointment is comparison to others
it can be a motivator...or compare yourself to your own self (a vision of your best self)....it's not all negative you know?
@@defaultworkoutsBut most of the time it just screws you over
@@defaultworkouts Aspiring to be the best version of yourself is a good thing. But, social media has robbed ten of millions of people of their happiness. Consider all of the people who have achieved above average results in their lives, but still feel like losers. Everyone wants to match the top 1% (in looks, lifestyle, popularity), but that is literally impossible. By definition only 1% of the population will ever be in the top 1%.
@@defaultworkoutswhen done right but most of the time it’s not. Even if does work, it’s just temporary before the cycle ultimately begins again. Better to compare your past from your present rather than someone else’s present to yours.
These types of videos needs to be taught in school and saved for generations to see. Thanks for the amazing content ❤
There’s this clip of the guy in twilight saying he “rebelled against the gym”that’s the only weird thing in the vid cuz Fitness is amazing. And it was not inlined with idea of the vid
Thank you for this video. I used to hit gym and while I was gaining muscle, I was having a lot of joint pain. My trainer, god bless him, told me that training for aesthetics is pointless and after sometime you question why you do what you do while suffering in constant pain. I feel good about my decision of eat good food, and doing running, pushups, yoga, hiking and cycling instead of pursuing to have that 6 pack abs. The reason behind having the "Physic" was women. But overtime I understood there are other factors beyond physic to get the attention from a women. Many came and went. I am grateful for that. No regrets and currently single, living my life out without any stress. I am happy. :)
I definitely have body dysmorphia, but I recognize that I do and understand that I look way better than I see myself. So while I will always continue to push myself in the gym, I don't actually hate myself.
Nice keep it up. Just keep progressing and you’re on the right track
Me too, it fuels my addiction to the gymm i dont even hate it.
Me too! I know I look good and don't need more muscles. Just staying fit is more than enough. Yet I often catch myseself thinking, I could add muscle here and there. But I don't hate the gym and still enjoy it.
Me too man. I swear the day since I was way more dedicated to my fitness than ever so many people have complimented my physique along the way. Even strangers that I met in random places I swear. But I still look at the mirror and feel very inadequate at times. I think one of the main factor is the standards that most social media have emphasized upon us.
Its normal... i was skinny now im built like a greek statue and i still think most of the time im still the skyny dude. Takes time to kinda adapt to the new reality.
Thank you, Josh. It makes me sad that we all deal with this, both men and women. The standards are set so high because of social media. We end up hurting ourselves in the long run. I truly hope things do get better.
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It isn't just social media encouraging these trends but dating apps and their algorithms. If you're an average 5 foot 10 young man, you're considered unattractive to the average woman on these apps and you won't be getting much likes, let alone. What better to increase your chances than to pick up a weight? Women standards have sky-rocketed and men are just trying to meet the new yardstick if they aren't blessed with a photogenic face or height.
@@streetfundz3179you are weird asf
I think this new pressure on males to be beautiful (women have suffered from it for centuries) is a contributing factor to the incel movement.
These kinds of content about fitness industry is like a window through the eyes of others thoughts thatll never come to your mind, odd how some people want to break their bones, injecting random shit, all harmful stuff just to look the way they think other people think look good
Channing Tatum - "I don't know how people working 9-5 manage to stay in shape, when I struggle and it's my full time job". Well said Mr Tatum. This is something Im often in conflict with and not something I think people consider enough when taking advice from FULL TIME fitness influencers. Amazing video. Boy do you have the voice for it 😂👍🏻
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Channing Tatum is wrong. You only need to workout like 4.5-6 hours a week to get amazing results. Stop kneecapping yourself by telling yourself that your goals and their processes are impossible. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Don’t fall for it
That's because staying in shape should be effortless. It's a lifestyle and mindset change completely not rushing to get results for the sake of capitalist gain
@@gamooor1386Pushing yourself will always require effort
@@Timmy-mi2ef because we seek instant results so we go to drastic measures. Little changes and habits build up over time. Like I quit soda when I was teen pretty sure it butterfly effected my entire life now that I’m mid 20s
There are more than a few posts on YT that talk about this topic. This the most complete one I have seen. Dysmorphia, eating disorders, steroids in children, the unsustainability of the 'perfect' physique and the fact that people are literally dying to get to some ideal. Thanks for the post.
Zac Efron was also on an F_ton of steroids but he didn't mention that
im not a fitness junkie
but im trans
so i feel for these people not happy in their own body, trying to do everything to fill some aesthetic ideal.
i wish we lived in a world where everyone can be happy with their body.
there's a really interesting conversation to be had in the chemical process for transitioning, I do't think anybnody realises just how much testosterone therapy (both adding and chemically stripping out) goes on in the process.
It always makes me laugh when people start working themselves up to hysterics because a trans woman is competing in something...i always say "You know she has had almost all of the testosterone chemically removed from her body right? technically the cis women have the advantage when it comes to testosterone." but it always falls on deaf ears.
@@michaelcoward1902 theres actually cis women barred from competing for naturally producing too much testosterone
@@michaelcoward1902 Muscles have muscle memory. So even if you remove the testosterone from the body, the muscles are more stronger and developed than in any cis female of comparable stature.
you are made in the image of God and God formed you inside of your mother's womb and loves your body. You are and will always be the gender you were born in.
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My step-nephew joined the Marines out of high school because he wanted to look a certain way (muscular) and do cool stuff like a Call of Duty video game. He got really into lifting, and was upset he wasn't gaining enough muscle since he was required to do so much running and physical activity in the Marines. He was bulking, eating a lot of junk food on post and not doing enough running/cardio. He got in trouble for being overweight, and assumed he could do a body fat analysis and pass since he had so much muscle, but didn't. He was put on a special weight loss program that required extra PT (more running) and he complained about it killing his gains and losing muscle. He opted to leave the Marines with non-honorable discharge because he didn't want to run or lose his "gains" or train to pass the PT test. My dad was trying to talk to him about how his job prospects would be if he left the Marines in that way - essentially quitting - and he didn't care. He wanted to look a certain way and believed that if he stayed in the Marines, he wouldn't look that way and it wasn't fun like a video game, and thus he wanted out.
Welp he's kind of a moron though it's not that unexpected out of highschool. Hope the kid's doing better these days.
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I'm so sorry, I hope he grows out of this obsession. What is he trying to prove to himself? He ruined a lot of job potentials for himself. If you're good enough to get in the Marines....you should try to make the best of it. Sometimes we have no sense when we're young.
@@PenguinCrayon269smartest one too
The decision could have saved him from an early death or serious life-altering injury.
23:20 "Self improvement is supposed to enhance yourself as a person, not replace yourself."
Yep.
When I’m approached in a gym or sauna (it’s frequent), I freely give advice. But there’s something else I almost always mention.
Single. 40. No kids. Pharmacist. My life is work, exercise, meal prep, and solo mountaineering/alpinism. Sometimes life works out to where I can only do one long trip (7+ days on a big objective) a year. Yes, it’s 100% worth it to me.
That’s not most people’s life. They don’t have time to train 15+ hrs a week as endurance and calisthenics athlete. They won’t sacrifice most friends and a social life for this, and shouldn’t, usually.
People can look fairly good training natural with the right nutrition plan, and still have a normal life. A lot of misinformation out there, poor nutrition plans, and lack of sufficient movement.
We shouldn’t hold up bodybuilders as the standard for the average gym goer. It’s something most people shouldn’t want anyway. Want to be able to do useful athletic things with your body? Run at least a few miles without feeling like death is near? Then pursue a different resistance training strategy.
Blame women with unrealistic standards. Most women don't want a shredded guy, but they will tell you zac efron in baywatch or even the brad pitt Fight Club is the ideal body. Zac efron will tell you he cant even mantain that look. The problem is that those physiques are incredibly difficult to attain and maintain for most guys. Around 20% is more realistic for most guys but women want the 10-12% moderately muscular guy in most cases.
Not only is the video educating, the editing is also on point
I almost didn’t watch this video because I was scared it would “convince” me to work less hard on myself. Shows how easily these disordered ways of thinking can sneak in. Thanks for such an important and nuanced video.
bro converted to the bitch side💀🕊
This was a good video indeed. However, one with such a title could easily have been about blackpilling people and telling them to not even try, so your initial concerns were perfectly reasonable.
@@tuukkai1841blackpill isn't necessarily bad, people just think that because you can't change your height or face you're doomed and should stop trying in life. I agree most of them are stupid but the concept of looks over everything that blackpill spreads is a reality in todays modern society.
@@Gian_sas Sure, I agree with your examples. I was referring to muscle building and fat loss
@@Gian_sas its more so if you dont have the looks/height then you need to give up on dating, not necessarily life. but yeah, blackpill is law
People need to understand that self improvement is not all about getting good looks, but, its to discover who you wanted to be a person who you can be proud of
I just want to give these guys who have been put under so much pressure to look a certain way a hug. The thought that they aren’t attractive enough kills me, They were already attractive before they started hurting themselves. While self improvement is healthy… this goes too far :(
As a woman who has dealt with bulimia, anorexia, and everything else, it breaks my heart to see these impossible standards imposed onto young men and boys.
A couple of decades ago women had to starve themselves (and possibly use Adderall and/or cocaine) to achieve the "perfect" body. Now men have to crash diet, take steroids and dehydrate themselves to achieve the same. And they have to behave in ways that will ultimately destroy them, physically and emotionally.
(BTW, I'm 5'9", my husband is 5'5", and we've been together for 28 years. We've been married for 22 years and have 2 kids. Anyone who mocks someone else for their height is an AH.)
People always try to take a shortcut when you can get a healthy, sustainable body naturally.
@@animekingdom4918 you have clearly never worked out or just tried body building before. It is nearly impossible for the average man to get the “perfect” physique. Even with great genetics to get to that “perfect” level you have to start using drugs and other enhancers. It’s not about being lazy it’s about how it’s impossible to do without it.
@maninagasmask Have you picked up a weight before ? It's definitely possible to achieve an impressive physique naturally within a few years.
@maninagasmask Now a perfect physique, no? But an impressive one, yes. This goes for women aswell they can achieve an impressive physique naturally.
Lies again? After Dark X
Glad to see GVS getting some more recognition. One of the realest dudes in the industry and an inspiration to natties all around.
GVS is unrealistic body standard tho
GVS the goat!
@@kapoioBCSinspiring* body standards
How so? Hes usually 12%-20% bf year round. Yes hes jacked af but you can be too if you train seriously for a decade.@@kapoioBCS
@kapoioBCS Unrealistic for the impatient maybe. Dudes physique is the result of 8 years of consistency.
As someone who lifts 5 days a week, bulking and cutting. Would say I have a pretty good body image, and knowledge about what is possible and not. Even despite impressing myself with how much strength and muscle i've gained. Its very depressng to see actors etc being able to "cut" and still look huge and muscular. Then attempting it yourself and looking nowhere near them. So youre stuck between bulking up to look muscly, but with people body shaming you as "chubby" or cutting down to look "fit" in the summer but skinny in clothes. Its just this grey zone that you cannot have both, but media keeps telling us you should have both.
This is fantastically made, well done Josh🙌
Christ man, what a powerful video. I was so close to falling down this rabbit hole a few years ago. I cannot imagine the mental pressure your average young adult has to deal with these days.
I wish I could take every guy suffering with body image issues to the gym, and to teach them how fun and rewarding it can be, without the need to look like a fitness model.
Fantastic work as always! You’re a legend, dude!
Holy crap, Gehab! It’s good to see you’re still around.
I recently just started going to the gym because I don’t wanna be so skinny, but honestly I’m really enjoying it just for the feeling you get afterwards. It is really tough tho because you see all the super jacked people on social media and it’s hard not to compare yourself to them.
Promoting ''suffering'' is infinitely better then being fat skinny or half the person you want to be
@@keen8087In my opinion, you should ignore all these perfect fitness influencers you see on social media and simply have fun with your routine and on your journey to develop a better-looking physique. You don't need to do everything perfectly. As long as you stay consistent and focused, you will see your body slowly transform and, after a couple of years, you will be amazed with how far you've come and incredibly proud of yourself. You will never have a physique like Chris Hemsworth's or Chris Evans's, but you don't need to, and you shouldn't try to anyway. You'll look pretty damn amazing regardless.
Fitness models don’t look good irl. But everyone looks good when you are strong
@@makhundred I am skinny and I feel good. Great? No, I could take more care of my skin and my hair, and get some muscles, but I will never fall down this stupid rabbit hole. I will never overdo myself or take any drug, ever. your problem and that of many men and women is one of insecurity, and ironically enough it will never end by going down said rabbit hole. as the video said, you will desire more and more without end in sight
Many young men are fumbling around in the dark because they're so confused about what they're supposed to be. What a man is supposed to be. Some, in their searching, are ensnared by dangerous ideals. Ideals pushed onto them as answers to that question. "Hypermasculinity", this obsession with bodily aesthetics, is one of them.
Be careful out there, friends. Don't hurt yourselves. Whether in body, mind or spirit.
I know it's sometimes hard to realize who you are, and to be comfortable with it, to own who you are. It's hard to conquer yourself. I know that. But I know you can do it, without harming yourself. I truly believe that we all can.
Society seems to think only women can have body dysmorphia. But ever since I was a young teenager, I've looked at all the superheroes and athletes thinking that these bodys were naturally obtainable. I'd sometimes only eat 800 calories a day, or work out insanely hard and never understand why I didn't look like them. Then I finally understood that these self-proclaimed "natural" bodies weren't naturally obtainable. That the people I've tried so hard to look like were on drugs, all while saying that they just work really hard. Sure they worked hard, but that's just one side of it. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronnie Colman, Chris Hemsworth, the Rock, Sylvester Stallone, Zac Efron, Jason Momoa, and even Joe Rogan, with most of these being confirmed. It's quite depressing, actually.
Popularize self worth and health/nutrition education for all, demonize gate keeping and misinformation
Glad you mentioned the halo effect and social proof. It's really important to educate people about these
I wonder what would even result after enough awareness is spread. People aren't going to change their instincts. In the west the way our system and culture promotes individualism, materialism, and all the other superficial manifestations of it are also a large contributor to our primitive behavior, but it's also merely another layer of manifestation/symptom of our human instincts - the real cause.
Something like the "halo" effect will never change. If you're born a certain way, good or bad, your life will be vastly different whether you like it or not. The only way to get around it is by improving our means to cope while minimizing the bad. I hope one day we can see family values being more of a thing, but it feels like we're never getting there.
Honestly, I really needed this video. At just about 26 years old, I’m a little bit overweight and I’ve done calisthenics in order to help me manage it as well as walking and doing push-ups and I look in the mirror and still feel kind of inadequate at times. Was actually just thinking about that and then this video popped up in my feed. This video was a literal Godsend.
Fix your diet, stop eating sugar and cut down the carbs
Ive read the longer it takes to achieve a fitness goal the more likely it is to be permanent
@littlebabycarrotful yes. And if you do it long enough it ingrains and changes your DNA to a degree to be more mauclar
I know the feeling, brother. Trust me I do. I would recommend getting into a real gym alongside calisthenics, because you’ll start seeing more results. More muscle and regular hard exercise will make you look but also feel a lot better. Just make sure to eat healthy and take care of yourself, yeah?
I tried to look better through lifting and it ended up destroying my body, I ego lifted and destroyed myself and I’m still dealing with it.
Back in my days when i was 15 i was worriying if i could get on with my friends to play a fun game.
I've had body dysmorphia since I was 12. Thank you for posting this.
All humans want to be better or be different no matter what. Social media is what makes it worse, and overall stress and embarrassment, us as humans always want to be able to impress others and ourselves, but we love attention from others, so we desperately do anything to fit in to let alone be better before even knowing what others want.
I work out and i enjoy it. I do it to blow off steam and be as healthy as my body will allow. This is why PED’s have never crossed and will never cross my mind. Do I sometimes wish i looked better? Yes. Do I know that my muscles dont define me? Yes. Working out is a race only against yourself and yourself alone. Comparison is the theif of joy. If you are watching others outlift you just remember that you are limited by genetic factors and time and hard work can get you where you want to go. Just make sure that your reasons for working out are pure. It shouldnt be to just get big and look like the rock. Thats not sustainable and can lead to poor choices. Your health must always be above your looks.
You are doing great work with this channel Josh. People need videos like this. I spent half my life chasing these unrealistic goals, battling anorexia, body dysmorphia and depression. It's taken me until my 40s to accept what you're telling us here.
I'm 35. I have a samilar story. It ruined my life in my 20s.
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@@InappropriateShortswhat’s so funny
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Im 15 and a pretty skinny guy.I dont do weightlifting alot,but instead do cardio and calisthenics for basketball,so i do not have a six pack,i do not have the biggest biceps, i do not have the biggest chest and i dont do steroids (and never will).Im proud of the way my body is and to everyone out there,look at yourself and make a goal for yourself,dont do it to like be someone else.Stay natural!
I'm 22 now, been in sports all through school and lifting since 7th grade. All of that never made me really big. It took ageing and becoming a larger human to put on significant muscle from training, literally 'growing up'. 135 lbs your age and 195 now. My body at 15 would never be able to be this big, not naturally or healthily. High school boys aren't meant to be adult heavy unless they are an outlier in height. Keep centring physical developments around a sport or hobby you enjoy. I hope you maintain that positive attitude; it'll be a stark reminder to you when you feel lost at times how to act, as we young men stomp our path through life.
@@Kagamunde 💯💯💯
You’re 15! You’ve got years of growing to do
How: Social media. The answer to any "how did things get like this" question. All of them, social media. How obvious.
I'm 35, a 5'6, 150 pound guy who has been lifting for half my life. The fact that I'm a smaller framed guy, the constant feeling of not being big enough, no matter how much I lift, or how many hours I put in at the gym, it's a constant struggle.
Yeah had the same even tho I’m 6ft 220lbs, a lot of guys feels this even the bigger ones, the issue is comparing myself to others. Didn’t feel good until I stopped comparing and started to focus on myself more and felt good again. You’re all good bro
‘Insecurity sells’ nailed it!
This is why social media is soo dangerous. I do not have Instagram nor TikTok
This is something that women have been dealing with for centuries. I believe it has of course been for men also, it just was never so prominant in our culture. Men could get away with being less attractive by being successful in other ways.
YES! please make more videos talking about this to dilute the unhealthy images being spread online. i'm a woman so i was not aware of this issue on a deep level, but this video really enlightened me. i can only imagine how much this video would help young men who are feeling insecure due to unrealistic body standards of celebrities.
Thank you, Josh, for bringing up Edward Bernays in this!
A college professor of mine published a biography of him right before I took his class. After that, I see Edward Bernays's influence everywhere. More people should, frankly.
Me who wants to look like Gear 5 Luffy: 😿
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I mean, doesn’t everyone
Kids aren't fooled easily. Most know those extreme six-packs and huge muscles often involve steroids, and that's no big surprise. Still, getting inspired by fitness influencers isn't all bad.
It gets people moving, aiming to better themselves, not necessarily to look exactly like them. It's more about the push to be healthier, and that's pretty cool.
That jawline is driving me to the barrel of this shotgun
Why not just jaw your jaw then you can pimp your jaw and have jaw while your jaw on
I'm halfway in through the video and I wish this to be one of the most watched video in the fitness community. Very informative.