Fender Stock vs Celestion G10 Greenback (Fender Super Champ XD)
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2020
- Fender Super Champ XD is a good small amp. I changed the speaker because of its vague and lack of bass. Please keep in mind that the setting is flat for the comparison purpose. (Direct sound)
What do you think?
Fender 1969 Relic - 69' CS pickup(AY) on neck&middle / Tyler Secret Humbucker on bridge 
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PS ... stock sounds better... i agree it lacks bass... but it captures the quack perfect
I feel you. Both sound different with each tonality. I thought it would make a great improvement but they just vibe different..! Both has pros and cons on comparison!
OD channel Ver. uploaded. quite interesting! 😎
Wow! What a difference. Thank you for doing clean tones so the subtle differences are obvious. Seriously, this is one of the best comparisons on RUclips.
Thank you sir! Cheers! :)
Now there's a dirty channel comparison. Check it out!
Superb comparison video. Well done Sir!
OD ver. uploaded! check it out!
Great comparison and outstanding playing!
Thank you! :)
Stock sounds better to me. Good video.
It depends on what you like, the G10 obviously smooths the treble out and adds more low end but the stock still sounds great if you like the piercing glass like post-punk tone which I love myself. Both are great.
True that. I thought it would only brings the pros but some elements are missed. It would sound quite nice on post-punk for sure.
Thank you so much
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I went completely the other way and screwed a Jensen P10r in my Superchamp and it is fuggin amazing. Punchy, warm, zingy , sounds like a hand wired princeton reverb but a bit better!!! Really.
Nice!! You know, when you screw a nice speaker into your amp and the amp starts rocking,, 😏 you know how it feels.
I like the fender stock better. It might actually be better the louder you go too.
I'm impressed... I actually prefer the stock speaker. I'd like to hear an alnico speaker demo.
My Frontman 100 R had the stock spkrs..low volume was fine..turn it up playing with drums n such and it farts...little magnet can't handle the power at higher dbs ..replaced mine with Texas Heat spkrs ..very nice now
I just had a OD channel comparison and stock speaker makes more sense.
Interesting, thank you...I own this amp, and have tried a few speakers. I did try the Celestion greenback, but wasn't a fan. It gave the amp more oomph, but to my ear it added a lot of midrange, and the top end wasn't as clear. Became more "boxy". It sounded almost like a blanket was thrown over the cabinet. You can hear that here I think. I ended up swapping to a Celestion Gold. It adds power and "beef" while retaining most of the clarity...I think Fender voiced the amp to suit the stock speaker, which has a tiny magnet, so it doesn't take easily to "standard" speakers
Thank you so much for this comparison, I just bought a SCXD and was contemplating the speaker swp because people on forums recommend it, but TBH I don't think the Greenbacks sound "better". Definitely not more than €100 "better". The Fenders are slightly harsh in the treble, but nothing an EQ peddle won't fix. Is your action very low? The strings sound a bit buzzy for the clean sound imo. Anway, thanks again! I don't think I will be replacing my stock speaker😁
Cranking up will make sound better rather than replacing it. It gets pretty loud though. lol That treble thing may sound bothering but it can also be used as one of a kind. After years of going back and forth, I like how stock speaker sounds with the amp. Just push it like a man! It's a good amp.😎(with at least 9'o clock) Keep Rocking!!
I like your headstock
Big one,, 👀 thanks!
What song are you doing at 0:25? Also how many ohms and watts is your G10? I’ve been looking into getting one for my SCX2
Sounds like Babe I'm Gonna Leave You but idk
Hi is the Greenback magnet larger than the stock magnet? Sounds great with the greenback! Btw what song is that riff from at 2:15?
The Greenback magnet(124mm) is much larger than the stock one(90mm) and weighs more. It's from Superstition by Stevie Wonder.
@@kalijx Thank you so much! I have researched high and low and could not find an aswer to the Magnet question.
Hey. Pretty well done demo. Nice to see contrast immediately one to the other using the same licks.
Question - I have an X2 and find that the stock speaker is simply too brittle. Listening with headphones, I found the Celestion G10 Greenback rounded out the sound without loosing clarity, but did you also find that it cut the shrillness of the trebble too? Thanks!
The condition of the demo is with the flat EQ. (I should've put it's best sound for each speakers to shine better.) G10 sounds round, warm, balanced. You can EQ better with the knobs but it has a bit less shrillness "compare to" the stock one. It sounds a bit bass-y and muddy with flat on G10 but it balances much better with less bass than the stock one. It has more weight on sound and less plastic-y light mids. There are pros&cons but, to me, G10 sounds much inspiring to play. It was my first rough demo. I will try to post one of my favorite set-up. Let me know if you have any other question!
Yes. The amp became much warmer and more professional sounding overall.
With the speakers on the iPad, not much difference. Through headphones, the Cel sounds fuller and smoother, while the Stock sounds a bit thin, but not terrible…
Friend, did you lost volume with the Celestion one?
not really but due to different freq curve it may feel like it. Celestion sounds bigger. maybe a bit too much on bass than stock one.
Fender always had a bright sound. Not so much warm. Jensen C10R maybe the way to go?
sorry for late reply! haha haven't listened to that one but remember that any speaker can work if you have intention! narrow down your main usage of the amp. It would help you finding the right speaker for you. :)
good work,,, now we know its not the wood
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That greenback smoothed out the tones of your sc. sounds good.
It makes me want to play more and more!
@@kalijx: I’m in between a greenback, creamback or a wgs et10. I really like how your greenback makes that amp sound. Not sure yet. 😎
@@jbert7289 Been there done that.. Check out "G10 Gold: The Celestion Secret Weapon" on Celestion Channel. It would give you even harder time. haha (but 2x $$) You know, that small amp's lows feel on SC,, it still has some of that but not as much as the stock speaker. I will make a video of this greenback with better tone maybe by next weekend when I get my strat back with pickups changed. lml
@@kalijx: I’ve checked out the gold. That’s a sweet speaker. I may take another look at it. I’ll sub to your channel to check out your video. 😎
@@jbert7289 you did the video with the gold yet?
will replacing my amp's speaker get rid of the incessant rattling I'm suddenly having? I planned on replacing the only tube it has as well, but my god the tone from this speaker is insane! for $99 it's unbelievable. here I was about to buy a whole new amp!
I'm glad that yo enjoyed the video. I, too, plan to replace the tubes since it's about time to do so. Which one did you have in your mind if you would buy a new one? You will feel the changes by replacing the tubes(pre-dominantly) and the speaker.
It’s too bad you didn’t show the difference between the Dirty channels. That’d where the sound/power is dramatically different. Night and day. The fender speaker is fine clean. But omg crank gain to 2 1/2 crank volume to 9-10 Tube scream lightly. Killer upgrade. That fender speaker just doesn’t cut it. Nice video though buddy. Thanks for posting.
Now I posted the dirty channel comparison. quite interesting result. check it out!
just unplug 10 inch speaker and plug into 212 cab its incredible
That's cheating!! jk haha I will make a video of it for you!!⚡with my tone tubbys!!
Good example of the tone difference at low volume and low gain but the place where the greenback really makes an enormous difference is when you dime the volume and/or run a lot more gain. The Fender speaker tends to sound a bit like a hi-fi crapping itself and the greenback really eats it up and performs.
You got the point. I feel like it tends to mimic the sound of Deluxe Reverb. It sounds quite nice when overdriven. Cannot agree more on that hi-fi crapping thing hahaha
Exactly
Now you need a Tele to fill out the Fender comparison.
Here's the deal. Imagine the stock speaker is a plain white piece of paper. Now, when you choose the amp's "models" they are various colors that show up well against the stock speaker. Now, imagine the replacement speaker is let's say a "purple" sheet of paper. The amp's model's colors will be changed when mixed with coloration from the speaker. The stock speaker was "designed" to be NEUTRAL! In this way it can duplicate faithfully the amp models that DSP programmers worked so hard to clone. So, in conclusion, if you want to change the speaker because you would like the amp to be louder and wish to buy a more efficient speaker as replacement, you would want a "neutral" speaker, more flat response.
The Fender Speaker sounded better. The Celestion sounded hollow and scooped.
OD channel ver. posted 😎 Fender speaker more likely sound like Greenback haha
Stock one is needed to work alright with so many different sounds. not worth replacing it.
If you want to choose certain speaker responses you better connect that one for the occasion using the output connector.
I hear the opposite! Stock has no mids + shrill highs. The GB is mid fwd and smooth, very well balanced.
fender sounds like tubes
both sound great, but the Celestion has a warm sound to it & it hides the pick sound & couple of other sounds, that you hear.
Thank you! check out the dirty channel now!
This Celestion is no good in my opinion because it kills the treble coming from the amplifier
I put a Greenback in mine and it made the amp.
Glad you liked it too! Do you use the amps' dirty channels or pedals for drive?
@@kalijx I use both depending on what I need. I think it has a pretty good direct out too. The new Tonemaster amps have very good direct outs with XLR. Fender has figured this out. Years ago direct outs were terrible. You’d never use them for recording , live or anything else.
Bought the wine red amp with the G10 installed from Sweetwater.
Fender stock better
The fanboys for each brand make it so difficult to buy new speakers.
Here I see tons of people saying "The stock Fenders sound so much better," when I didn't hear that at all.
I just see a bunch of people who need better computer speakers and headphones.
A CELESTION IN ANY AMP IS A IMPROVEMENT.
greenb sounds muffled
Greenback vinns 10-0