My 1983 Fender Super Champ
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2018
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If u have issues sourcing 6c10's, holla at the guys at vivatubes in massachusetts. They even have a cool blog post on their site about acceptable substitutes that drop right in the socket with no amp tweaking and what you can expect from the different substitutes sonically.
I had a Super Champ back in the mid 80s and remembered it as being really good. Years later I have a Deluxe Reverb re-issue with a Celestial blue back. A friend recently dropped by with his bone stock Super Champ and wow, is/was my memory wrong….there is absolutely NO comparison. The Deluxe ate the Super Champ up and shit out the remnants. Nostalgia is dangerous!
I love the sound of this amp, especially on his blues lessons.
Thank you Adrian! Love to watch you buddy!
Excellent review that convinced me to buy a Super Champ I'd been watching on Craigslist. I bought one of these new back in the mid 80's but it was stolen along with a new Les Paul. I was able to recover the guitar but the Super Champ was history - long story. Am finding the Super Champ much more recordable/versatile than my other amps: Hot Rod Deluxe, Blues Junior, Peavey Classic 30, Peavey Bandit, Tech 21. I'm seriously thinking of ditching all the others but the Blues Junior (which I love). The Super Champ is so much in such a small package!! I'm really enjoying being reunited with this valve amp, although I paid more than double what I paid in the 80's!
Great playing, and excellent, informative videos on your channel. Thank you!
Your amp sounds great and it really is very versatile! Many moons ago, I used to own a Fender 75 which I believe was also designed by Rivera and pretty much seems like the much bigger brother to this amp. I really liked it but got rid of it when I was moving overseas. It has a 15" speaker and sounds huge.
Really loving your channel man, thanks for so many wonderful videos!
Fantastic demo and explanation. Thanks man!
I like your lessons well explained no nonsense approach and always great choices for songs. I also appreciate you don't waste time in say a Hendrix lesson saying heres how to tune. If someone didnt already have that knowledge they ain't gunna be playing Hendrix unless they've been blessed with perfect temperature and incredibly stable pegs
Great review/tones, my friend...….Thank you ! Mine was taken years ago :( One of the finest small combo's ever crafted ! (Yes Mr. Rivera did a fine job creating this little beauty). Thanks again...….wonderful review/story about your amazing little Amp. :)
Hello Adrian you are one of the best teachers on youtube especially with song selection.
I like all the post punk material, I stay up on Sundays to watch 120minutes to discover new artists/bands. You should do a video of your top post punk albums or songs. I recently heard XTC "Making plans for Nigel" would love to see your lesson on it. Thanks again keep up the great work!
These are great sounding amps, very under rated. Lovely sounds
Who’s underrating them?
Cool video. Great playing and Lovely Presenting. Thanks.
I got the 1982 Champ ll ... bought it in at a small guitar shop 1992 , along with a new SRV Stratocaster.. still got that too👍. Still a killer combo 26 years later..
Alan Murphy used this as his main amp. His solos on Go West's albums and Total Contrast's first album are all using the superchamp.
Really nice tone and playing! I have it's larger sibling, the Princeton Reverb II. I've owned it longer than any amp (since 1983) and will never let it go.
These Rivera Champs were amazing. I've never owned one but certainly borrowed a couple from friends back in the 80s for gigs. I'd throw a fuzz box and chorus or flange and delay in front. That was all, and I'd have amazing tone and it was much louder than its fifteen watts would lead people to believe. I've always leaned more in the Fender direction than Marshall although I've used both and also a number of Boogies, Laneys, Hiwatts and Peaveys.
I have the Princeton Reverb II from the same year. Lovely amp.
I too have a 1983 Superchamp & I love it. The only downside I find is that the gain pull pot utilises the same circuitry as the reverb and therefore you almost completely lose the reverb so it sounds very dry. I’ve just bought an mxr reverb pedal to get round this issue. I also have a Wurlitzer 200 just like yours in the background.
Tone at 11:50 is amazing. Great video
Love it Adrian especially the Jazzmaster towards the end of the video. All of the tones were great though. This is a real versatile little powerhouse.
Thanks, glad you liked it. Yes, it seems to match the Jazzmaster well.
Beautiful sounds and playing, now I want one of those. Thanks for the demo! ...still hoping for a Nick Drake lesson at some point. :-)
gonna quote myself from another vid comment... its a beautiful growly stormy amp. love love love it :)
Amazing and Thank You!!!
QUINE!!! How can you not love that endorsement? I've althat's thought the SC and the Deluxe Reverb II distortion channel have a quintessentially post-punk sort of timbre, especially if you get in close and let it feedback. Man, I've been playing Blue Mask-era Lou Reed songs through my 1983 '62RI Start and DRII since I bought them brand new back then and now it all makes sense why they're so perfect for the music I love. Oh, and I was always too lazy to swap out the Fender speaker for the EV and it's aged pretty nicely. Well, time to plug in my Yardbox fuzz and Deluxe Memory Man and keep trying to learn "Waves Of Fear!" Thanks, Adrian!
Yes, anything that's good enough for Quine is good enough for me. You're right about the post-punk tones you can get from this amp and the feedback is great! I must dig out my copy of the Blue Mask - some of Quine's finest playing to be found there.
Excellent review! Your incredible tone inspired me to buy a 1982 Super Champ. I'm a fan of Rivera amps, so adding this Rivera era piece felt good. Separately, I also found a UK-made Celestion Vintage 10 speaker from the 1990s. I will try it out at some point if I don't like the stock Fender speaker in my amp. Some folks believe that these amps are underrated. Not at all -- at least not in 2023. I watched two of them on Reverb that got sold in just 24 hours! Thank you. Sub'd.
Fantastic video, thank you! I have mine since the early 90s and HATED it's sound over decades (stopped even playing *lol*) - but your video made me love it. Have a very nice pedalboard now in combination with the Super Champ and I am exploring it's full benefit while refreshing and expanding my guitar play... :-)
I bought a Rivera Era Superchamp in the mid 80’s from a kid that had acquired it because he was told that he needed a tube amp to be taken seriously and the amp that I bought off from him did have the tubes but not the wattage or tone he needed. I still own mine and use it for recording and small venue gigs. The stock speaker just plain sucks and I replaced mine a long time ago with a Jensen P10 Alnico. Marriage made in Heaven tones. I also bought a pair of 6C10s before they became stupid expensive. I’ve heard that there is a schematic floating around the net that Paul Rivera drew up as a purposed design substitution for the 6C10. That fuzzy lead tone can be reigned in by using a 12AT7A in the V1 position. I generally just leave the amp in the clean mode and crank it to make the power tubes sweat and grind.
Great review dude. Love your gentle and laidback style, helps me to relax. Having said that, I’m more of a “Marshall” lover than fender, but you did your best to convince us that a fender amp is any good. Love your tutorial videos btw.
Sounds great.
5 years ago I bought a Champ II from 1982/83. First Fender amp by Rivera, replaced after only one year by the Super Champ. I dont know if its basically the same amp only without reverb and lead channel. But it sounds very nice too and since I use pedals I dont miss a thing.
beautiful amp, telecaster, tone, and haircut! have a great weekend, adz
Ha thanks. Certainly don't get too many complements on my haircut!
Great video, Adrian!
Thanks!
Great review Adrian! Keep'm coming. Don't forget the all american "country classic Wildwood Flower" Ventures style! Thanks!
Yes, it's on my radar for a future lesson!
Very nice, keep it playing! (1982SC owner).
I bought a fender superchamp new in 1983 it was about 350 and I used it exclusively for 12 years and absolutely loved it.I sold it it because of the 6c10 availability problem but regretted it .I went through a lot of small amps at great expense until Fender brought out the 65 reissue Princeton which I now own. It has a wonderful sound pretty close to the superchamp. I loved the superchamp lead channel with the mid boost circuit engaded for John Mcgoech overdrive tones -If this amp where ever reissued I would immediately buy one.Very excellent demo and fond memories.
Yes, the mid boost is great - I really should have mentioned that in this video. Know what you mean about the McGeoch type sounds. Love the Princeton sound too, and might one day get one, but it's a bit hard to justify as I have this and a Deluxe already!
I think the Deluxe Reverbs are really fab, the clean sound is world class and they are loud enough for any gig and perfect for pedals.Just a tip, you might want to look at WEEHBO overdrives as the 6v6 tubes love these pedals and they really sound like amps and not fizz pedals! Cheers for the reply -really like your videos!
Thanks for the tip on WHEEBO overdrives. Not come across them before, will check them out!
Thanks for the video Adrian,I was really interested in knowing more about the amp.Could you do a Brian Setzer video?
I just made one today from old vintage parts and a schematic from online it sounds great and good breakup
Love all your video's Adrian, you have the same taste as me in both gear and bands you like.
Thanks Kevin. Pleased to hear you're enjoying the videos.
I bought this amp new in 1983 for $300 and still have it. A friend of mine refinished it as a blond amp with black grill. I also replaced the speaker and the tubes in 1988. Haven’t done anything else to it since.
Another fun, and informative video, thanks Adrian :) What I am very impressed with always, is how well you look after your equipment, and how clean your work space is.. I have always loved the sound of Fender amps, and had a Champ before I discovered that a trapped rat in my cottage, had made a nest in it and by the time I discovered where that strange chewy sound came from, it was too late and to my dismay, found that the grill cloth had been very extensively chewed away and the paper cone in the speaker was totally eaten up and rendered useless...a heartbreaking discovery.... if only I had had one of those wavy cats you have on the amp, it might have scared the rat off?? :) Anyway, your champ sounds wonderful, and even though I am not a fan of overdrive channels on tube amps, I have to admit I rather like the growl on yours...and I can appreciate the story of how you had to go by train to transport it back :) been there done that, but it only makes her more special and a firm "keeper"... She has obviously found a good master and good home! Looking forward to your Vox demo too if you ever decide to do one...
Thanks Jonathan. Yikes, rats chewing way inside a vintage Champ! The stuff of nightmares. Will get round to the Vox demo later this year. And my studio's not always as tidy as you might think - all the mess is right behind the camera!
lol, well it sure looks clean and tidy from this side !! Well, I caught the rat, in a big old rat trap and even posted a photo of it on Facebook (as a warning to other rats....) :)
Hey Adrian, great videos. I couldn't quite make out the name of your fuzz pedal you mentioned. The one that gives it that classic 60's fuzz. Great sound. Thanks for all those wonderfull lessons. You have a way to describe it perfectly.
JHS Mini Foot Fuzz
Brilliant! I've been curious about exactly what it is you have there.I have a '66 Champ and absolutely love it. Tough to beat the old low watt Fender stuff.
Thanks. Yes, the 60s Champs can be awesome, probably better than this.
That's J Mascis' secret weapon. You can hear it on Hand It Over and other records.
I have never heard of people swapping the speaker on Super Champs. The EVl 10" speaker they came with are pretty desirable. Deffinatly valuable. If anybody wants to get rid of theirs, I would be happy to give you a celestion for yours. Nice amp, and video
The EV was an upgrade option. Stock was CTS or something. The EV makes it breathe fire.
I have the champ11 version of this amp without the reverb 1983 i think. I love it and will never let it go. Great sounding amp with my Pedal board. They are hard to find and are going up in value.
I also have the Champ Ii. I bought it new in ‘82. I’ve bought and sold afew amps since then, but the Champ II is the one I would never get rid of.
Alan Murphy used Super Champs with Kate Bush, Go West and Level 42. He had the reverb control switched to mid boost. I’ve got the EV version from when I worked in Denmark Street and will never sell it. Thanks for sharing )
Another interesting Super Champ fact, thanks! Didn't know Alan Murphy used one - I rate his playing very highly.
He did indeed and was a phenomenal guitarist who is sadly missed. One of the reasons I started using a Super Champ many years ago was because of the sound that Alan got from them. Among my peers I used to get some funny looks when I turned up at gigs with the Super Champ while they were lugging in Marshall half-stacks but I always got a better sound IMHO and no back ache.
My dad bought me my first amp in 1986. He paid $150 (US) for it. It was a 1982(?) Rivera designed Champ II. Gorgeous tone. I didn't know what I had, so I sold it to help fund the purchase of a larger, louder amp as I had started playing with a drummer. Not long after that, I learned more about it. I had already regretted that I gave up an amp with such great tone, but to learn about Rivera and the rarity of the amp made me quite ill. To this day I miss it still.
Ah, sad story! I think most of us have got rid of gear we wished we'd have kept at some point, I know I have.
awakeintulsa sorry for your loss
🤔🙋yeah I wish I would have still kept Sandy she was something else☹️
I'm sorry you were talking about music equipment my mind started drifting LOL
Love it
Great amplifier.
I watched this, went to my local guitar shop which has used consignment amps, and there was one (a 1983 as well). I bought it and took it home. Wow. I really love it. Thank you!!
may I ask, how much did you pay for it? thanks
About the going rate currently on ebay/Reverb. Mine is in amazing used condition. It has Fender (USA) tubes in it. I bought a spare 6C10 ($80) for it as well. I was happy to find it locally and support my local guitar shop.
nice playing in the beginning
Great to see this on the day I subbed to your channel! I'm not much of a guitarist (hence looking at lessons) but I've got an '83 Princeton Reverb 2 from the same series of Rivera-designed amps as yours. Lovely cleans and takes pedals well. It also has the dubious pull-lead feature :)
thats a really nice amp
Adrian, how did you approach learning how to take solo leads like you do in this demo? I feel like I'm a pretty decent intermediate guitar player, but my ability to solo is severely lacking. Was it memorizing scales? What would you recommend as good practice for someone looking to improve in this area?
I have a Vox AC15, an old Peavey 45 watt transistor amp and a Marshall JCM 800 50 watt head through a 4X12 cab. 95% of the time I play trough a Blackstar HT1-R. 1 mighty watt of thunderous power.
I’d love a little Princeton or Super Champ at some stage. The Fender sound is the one I need to cover the bases I can’t at the moment.
Yours sounds beautiful.
It's good to have options, but a Fender sounding amp just works in most situations. I do like the Marshall sound and used to have a half stack with 4X12 but it was just so impractically loud and difficult to get in and out of gigs that I ended up selling it. Love Princetons. Want an old one but there a bit out of my price range right now.
anyonecanplayguitar.co.uk I remember when old Princetons were cheap and I thought I could always get one anywhere. Then prices skyrocketed on anything pre early 80s regardless of whether the amp/guitar was any good or not. The internet I suppose.
Some day.
The new super champ x2 is all tube in ch.1 and digital pre amp / tube power amp in ch.2. One 12ax7 and two 6v6 tubes. The modeling tones are only on the second channel, the first channel is the clean channel and that is all tube but sounds amazing if you use pedals for overdrive.
Fender likes to recycle names but in fact they have little in common. Also, it's a famous misconception that the X2 has an all-tube channel 1. Everything goes through the digital preamp. About the 12AX7 (dual triode), one half serves as a final tube gain-stage, and the second half serves as the phase-inverter before hitting the power tubes. I have worked on a couple X2s and once the bias is raised around 40-42 mA they are quite enjoyable amps. Even better if you upgrade the output transformer and run into a larger cab.
@@jonathanpayant5423 I have the earlier XD version; I assume the X2 is similar in many respects. Looking at the XD schematic, it appears that the input passes through analogue op amps. However, the controls (CH1, CH2, Effects) are managed via digital circuit, which is converted to analogue and fed to another summing op amp along with the analogue input; indicating a digital influence on all controls, amp models, effects. The 12AX7 does indeed appears to provide some gain as well as phase inversion (ac output test voltage > ac input test voltage). In fact I have two SCXDs, one with JJ 6V6S (sounds great), one with stock Fender Groove Tubes (not so great). I have a pair of matched JJs to install in that second amp!
Very nice.
Nice guy....def not a criminal....and nice Jazzmaster also
David Gilmour recorded the huge sounding solo on Sorrow from A Momentary Lapse of Reason album with the Super Champ a he said in an interview that he was blown away by the amp.
Awesome...!!!!!!..Im learning and I have a 15 frontman....CANT COMPLAIN.... I can do that PF song intro cause its easy...learned ot last week...what a coincidence ...loud
grainy and great sustain on a Squire Tele....
Awesome information!!!!!!
@@peterlorenzo615 15 Frontman was my first amp and I still use it. It's a great little amp. It serves as an awesome ovedrive in pedal chain too :)
Vox plug in "blues"...also great sound with that PF song
your first example you did what kind of fuzz pedal did you kick on there??
Could you do a lesson for It's On by Flowered Up?
I play a lot of midwest amp and this amp is TONE just plugging in.
Adrian, what amp do you use for your live work and what settings do you use please (vol, Treble, mid, bass, reverb etc)
Don’t suppose there’s a chance you could do a ned’s Atomic dustbin tutorial , happy or grey cell green?:)
Hi Adrian, thanks for the video. I've checked out the schematic for your amp and, as you say, it is not two channel but rather the Lead switch switches in signal from the reverb driver stage, and that's where the higher gain sound comes from. I would build one of these, but the reliance on the 6C10 puts me off; I might try one with 2 x 12AX7s replacing the triple triode and see how it sounds.
Yes, that's interesting. Curiously you lose the reverb once you engage the lead channel, but that explains why. My amp tech said replacing the 6C10 for 2 12AX7s would make no difference to the tone, I just wanted to leave mine in its original state.
Yes, I've checked out the datasheet for the 6C10 and it is identical in every way to one-and-a-half 12AX7s! I don't blame you for leaving yours as stock as long as you have access to 6C10s- they are all good quality valves apparently and good for many years. I will keep an eye out for them at the antique audio fairs!
in fact the current Super Champ X2 uses 12AX7
Great demo Adrian, thanks for sharing. Real dedication humping that amp/case around town when you bought it :-0
What's the song you're playing at the start?
Love it
Have 2 of the Fender Super Champ XD amps. 15 watts of nice clean tube channel and a second channel with 16 modeling amp settings and lots of built in effects. Can currently be purchased used for plus or minus the $200 U.S. mark. Try one you might like it.
Can you do a video on how you record videos next?
Robert Quine!
I have two of these. Best kept secret in the Fender line up. Oh shit I just let the secret out. I describe it as a tweed deluxe, Princeton and a Deluxe Reverb all in one. Don't tell anyone about these amps or the price will go up again. Shhh.
Cool story on how you acquired the amp. I wonder does the former owner ever watch your videos and kick himself for selling it. It always sounds great, as does your playing Adrian. I really enjoy your videos.
Beautiful clean tones. Would be ideal for teaching some Felt songs, something like The World Is As Soft As Lace would be great. Failed to transcribe that myself.
Yes, great song. I only discovered it last year. Seems like it would be challenge to transcribe, but I might have a go.
Some nice tones coming out of that little guy, Any chance of doing something by The Damned? either real early Brian James era or 80's Strawberries or Black Album
Thanks Andrew. I'm not too knowledgable about the Damned other than knowing a couple songs. I'll have to do some listening and see if anything grabs me as being appropriate for a lesson...
Captain Sensible is a fantastic guitarist. Whereas the first Damned guitarist, Brian James, was indebted to James Williamson, the Captain drew more from Brit 60s psychedelia, particularly Syd Barrett, while maintaining James's Detroit muscle. The intro arpeggiated chords that you play in this demo are actually not that dissimilar to the Damned's 'Smash It Up (Part 1)'. Anything from Machine Gun Ettiquette, The Black Album or Strawberries would be appreciated!
That's what made me think of "The Damned" well that and the fact i had just been playing Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde on my acoustic
When amps were AMPS I've got a silver face champ with Jensen alnico 8 and you can't believe the tones and then just add pedels !!!!!
Ha, yes those older amps certainly have a magic about them...
Adrian(sp?), what are your thoughts on the Fender Champion 20?
I bought my Super Champ in 1985 after seeing Alan Murphy use one with Go West. Great little amp and fortunately so far for me, still going strong. Do you use the mid pull boost much?
Didn't know Alan Murphy used one and I really like his playing. I do use the mid boost and love the sound - really should have mentioned it in the video, but forgot!
Hi Adrian. Can you recommend a small, ‘neighbour friendly’ amp for just home use (new).
I know a lot of people will probably tell you this, but just get an old vibro champ. It's the greatest bedroom amp ever made. Perfect breakup, gorgeous cleans, and a nice simple low maintenance design. I play solo, so I actually gig with mine. It does everything.
Can you talk about that red vox
You didn't say anything about the dual pedal, and what it does, or how the reverb cuts out when you pull the knob for lead (you did in the comments section)
Ah, I always mistakenly thought your amp was the "X2" version that I almost bought once, which as you said has a digital modeling stage (which I didn't enjoy the sound of, although the amp's clean sound was nice--also too many controls on an amp overwhelms me). It looks exactly the same but has the "X2" label on front. I enjoyed the demo, and now I understand why you're using it! And although the greatest thing is always to see another of your incomparable song lessons, it turns out to be nice to learn about the equipment in between the songs.
I've got the X2 and I really love it. Valve amp for a very good price. Rarely use the digital modeling, but its a nice to have.
Yes, I've not used one but a lot of people seem to rate it highly.
Very nice Adrian. I really like what you're playing at the beginning of the video, however it doesn't show your fret hand. I know you're arpeggiating between 3, or 4 chords and I'm wondering if you'd be able to type the names of the chords you're playing. Basically, I can see where you're playing on the neck, but I'd sure like to know the names of the chords. Regardless if you have time to do this, I want to say that I really enjoy your channel. I'm glad I subscribed. Thanks for what you do Adrian.
I had to listen to it again and figure out what I played..! It's basically 5546XX to 5757XX. So Dmaj7/A to A7sus4. Then just G, D/F#, F and Em. There we go!
Very kind of you to take the time to reply Adrian. I want you to know I truly appreciate it. You do a fantastic job not only as a teacher, but also in imparting useful information such as what you provide in this video. Many thanks Adrian!!
I always enjoy your videos, and I just paid $260 USD for 2 6C10's for the SuperChamp I'm picking up tomorrow. Ouch. But Better to have than have not and wish you could find one to pay double for! 🤦🏻♂️
how much amp weighs? in kg? do you know?
These were $200 brand new. I purchased mine for that price back in 1983, and I still have it. The 6C10 valve that the Super Champ uses is very hard to find and that will cost you a good penny.
Almost Neil Young in the lead channel.
Posies?! Surely a lesson to follow? Definite Door? Flood of Sunshine or Burn & Shine?
Hey Adrian, do you recommend an amp similar to that amp that is in production today?
Hey Matt, you can get a Super Champ XD which is a hybrid valve amp. I use one and love it. Its also affordable!
Nandos Dan Yeah I’ve been looking at that amp for quite some time and whenever I ask about it people always have good things to say about it.
Yes, the Super Champ XD has a lot of fans though I've not used one so can't really comment. I have a Fender Pro Jr which I like a lot, and the Blues Jr is very good too. Similar vibe to the Super Champ and more affordable.
@@DanCThorpe I recently bought a used SCXD and am extremely pleased with it. It came with matched JJ power tubes (instead of the stock Groove Tubes) and stock Fender speaker, also the Fender Footswitch. I have tried it through a Jensen C10Q speaker, but at the moment I like the brightness of the stock speaker. Very affordable and versatile and can be played with a driven tone at relatively low (bedroom) volume. I am led to believe the Blues Junior needs to be played loud for a driven tone? Not sure about the Pro Junior. I expect these two pure tube amps have a nicer tone, with a price tag to reflect that.
Similar tones from my little Laney LC15r
no celestions ever came in the SC !!
What about ....Fender Super Champ X2 FSR/limited edition with greenback G10s?
Valve or not?
The down fall of this is use of the rare 6C10 valve. You cannot use a substitute valve as the sweet sound will be comprised.
I have the Super Champ 2. It's like your Super Champ but with no shoes on squatting in a ditch munching ground grubs.
theres two on Ebay/reverb for 1500 and 1900$
At 13:00, that riff should've been LAST DANCE WITH MARY JANE by Tom Petty.. but you diffed it mate.
Sounds fine. I’ll stick with my Princeton.
OMG..16:17! 😍
I also like calling tubes "valves".
I have the original one myself.
Yeh the lead channel sounds like a mild fuzz.