I don't understand how old money has become a trend/esthetic when I always thought it was an existence. A being. A verb. 🫠🫠🫠 you cannot dress or become old money. You just are. And quiet luxury is still supposed to be rooted in you actually having money
Well, since fashion is cyclical then this whole quiet luxury thing isn't anything new. As soon as the economy improves, I can tell you that the wealthy will be back to wearing ostentatious clothing.
For some reason, I could NEVER get into the luxury purse thing. I don't know why. My designer bags were inheritances from my aunts. I've been asked by girlfriends, why I am not into certain brands. I honestly think some people buy things so others can say they are somebody. I honestly think Louis Vuitton is quite ugly. LOL Never liked Coach. REALLY hated Dooney and Burke when it was popular. One Chanel I was given. Goyard bag collection given me by family...love them...but would never buy them. I purchased 2 Chloe bags I fell in love with 8 years ago and have never purchased a luxury bag since. They totally fit my biz life. Other than that? I actually have about 4 bags from...gasp! Amazon! I
The reason a simplistic looking item can cost so much is because you're investing in something that unequivocally has higher quality. From the craftsmanship, the attention to detail, better quality fabrics, & if you know your measurements, it will fit your body type 100x better than a cheaper item that is mass produced. Like a 5 dollar shirt from Target.
@@roleeprime217keep telling urself that. There r certain items that make sense as high priced due to fabric, tailoring, etc. No Tshirt should cost $900. They just make Zuckerberg pay more cos he can afford it n it suits his ego.
I like the concept of neutrals that are easy to mix and match. Also, buy nice pieces and switch them out. Don't buy trends and stuff that can only make it through the wash once. Also get breathable fabrics. It is really healthier for your skin. There are positives to this "trend" even though this concept has been around forever
Old money, new money, black, white, it does not matter. Live the life that you want. You should only wear whatever feels comfortable for you. It would be very boring if everyone was dressed the same. I am only wearing classic items because I like this style but I love to see other trends. For me even the blingbling sometimes is nice to look at.
I think, it does matter. If it wouldn't matter, we would all have the same chances in life. If you will be able to wear, whatever feels comfortable for you, or not, very often depends on your privilege.
I went to school with some very wealthy people in NY. At that time it was considered "de-classe" to wear clothes with labels on the outside. I remember in the early 80's people started wearing labels on the outside, like Izod.
Personally, I am a big proponent of buying high quality clothing and I'm am highly interested in fabric quality and construction quality. So I am really big on knitwear and my closet staples from brunello cucinelli, loro piana, zegna, and tods. Personally I have never liked the idea of big labels as I never liked the idea of essentially advertising other brands. I think however a distinction needs to be made between old money aesthetic and quiet luxury. Whilst I personally support quiet luxury (and have been into quiet luxury way before it became a big thing), I thing the old money aesthetic trend is what is actually problematic. Nothing worse than supporting fast fashion brands that source cheap unethical labour, use crappy fabrics and poor construction.
The thing is, there is no such thing as quiet luxury. Luxury is luxury. Those who understand, understand when they see it. People keep coming up with nonsensical names just to sell products.
i don't see or feel a major difference betwen my Lolo Piana sweater and Brooks Brothers sweater both 100% cashmere, both without labels. There are clothes between fast fashion and Hermes.
I feel like there are so many layers to this subject.... The need for validation is central to why trends exist at all. It's all a matter of who you are trying to be accepted by or impress... The lack of genuineness in people is a result of overcompensating for feelings of inadequacy, caused by capitalism, chauvanism, classism, and racism. Thank you for this thought provoking and well-presented content!
@@buffyannesmith6609no one said that, stop projecting. If you want to center yourself closer to whiteness, go ahead but be mindful. The thing about dressing like this is that you'll still be a black woman and that might not change how they treat you or view you because whiteness is the majority and they look down on you and sexualize you no matter what.
Wow! That's seriously what you got from the comment? Really? You really think all rich white people are dressing this way? The point is that you can wear quality clothes but they don't all have to be beige white and black for it to be luxurious. All the comment is saying is that you can wear luxurious clothes that matches your style but don't follow blindly just cos something is popular online. @@buffyannesmith6609
If anything it's the opposite. She was in a bad boy phase and dated Scott bc she wanted to and then settled for a regular rich guy because she got tired of being cheated on by bad boys and thought she would be safer. And now she dresses this way solely bc her modelling days are going to be over and she needs to do smth with herself ASAP to keep her status.
She is/was already high status by virtue of being born in an extremely wealthy family tho... marrying a poor person or staying single wouldn't have affected her status whatsoever
Quiet luxury, or the "Old Money" aesthetic, has been around forever, and will continue for another 100 yrs or so. Nothing about it every changes aside from what we call it. In the 1980s, it was the "preppy" look, and it took its inspiration from the films Chariots of Fire, Maurice, and Out of Africa. Ralph Lauren drove it, but he ripped his looks from Brooks Brothers, the Ivy League, and families like the Kennedys and the Windsors. You can take this concept all the way back to the 1920s with The Great Gatsby, the Duke of Windsor, the Vanderbilts, the Astors, and even the early Bush clan. There's nothing NEFARIOUS about the concept, to be honest. It relies ONLY on the following ideas: Quality over quantity; Subtlety over flash; and Eternal style over disposable fads. Sure, you can spend $10,000 on a tasteful cashmere or suede coat that will never go out of style, or you can buy a camel safari jacket from Banana Republic or J Crew for 200 and get the same effect. The point is to invest in classic pieces made with good fabrics that the owner can wear for decades. The end result is that 1) you will slowly build a large and versatile wardrobe that never lets you down, AND 2) you won't be laughed at when pictures of you surface 15 yrs from now of you wearing a tacky, blinged-out Versace track suit with a shiny gold lame top coat. Trust me... no one wants that.
My understanding of "quiet luxury" is investing in quality items that will last for years and usually have a more "classic" style. The items don't need to be expensive (though it will be more expensive than your average Target shirt), but they do need to be of a quality that will look good for years to come. My personal style and mentality means my clothes fit into this category but it is because I now have quality item I will own for the next 10yrs that I enjoy wearing, not because it is the "trendy" thing.
My most recent bf was born into wealth and he has inherited his father's business. He prides himself on having "quiet wealth" and dresses exactly like you've described. I've always teased him about it. Fashion eventually played a small part in our break-up because he preferred me to dress the same. He never forced me to and would take me out regardless of what I was wearing, but he did tell me several times that he thought it made him look bad. I value comfort and practicality over style because I work with animals as a job and for hobbies. Fashion might literally get me killed with some of these animals. So I often wore jeans and t shirts. To be fair, on our very first date we went to the fair and I warned him I was dressing for comfort, not my usual office attire he was used to seeing me in from photos. (We met online.) When he first saw me, he said, "oh, you REALLY dress down..." But he still asked me on a second date. We were together for two years and then had a mutual break-up to follow different life paths. We're still friends and talk frequently.
It's the business casual for me 😂 this is definitely not *old money" because I don't see one cowboy boot in sight 😂 people who have old money focus more on personal style. That's why the way Jane Birkin carried her iconic namesake bag was the standard as opposed to the way the bag is worn and worshipped today. These people crack me up. Beige isn't old money. You look sad 😂
EXACTLY !!! The SAME people who are the poster children for 'Quiet Luxury' are the same people who's ancestors became rich enough to afford it on the backs of the people who they refuse to accept into their circles...
Old money are the people you never see. One of the best books to read is Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton. Old money has a phenomenal history of exclusion and slavery. Old money can ruin a reputation with a whisper- I worked in Princeton- where old money were the worst dressed on Nassau at. And lived in a few rooms in their massive homes to save on electric. I really wished the trend setters used a better phrase than old money. There is a higher class that lives in the stratosphere who wouldn’t be caught dead in designer clothes. I love your videos glad I found you.
Is anyone else frustrated at this being referred to as a 'trend'? I feel it's the novices who got into very casually following fashion during the hypebeast/ logomania era who are just now discovering ‘quiet luxury’ and ‘stealth wealth’, calling it a trend, and discussing it ad nauseam on social media in what feels like an evolution of _their_ idea of luxury. The pendulum is swinging away from that era, and they noticed. Did they not notice quiet luxury is nothing new? That part genuinely gave me pause. 🤔It’s bizarre seeing people behaving as if quiet luxury is some kind of brand new idea or aesthetic. It's not a 'trend', it's been people's lifestyle for decades. If anything it's a mindset. It makes sense for a lot of people to avoid the trending hopping and invest in timeless, versatile, understated pieces in neutral tones made from quality fabrics. Since when is that 'new'?
Thank you! Choosing clothing that is well constructed, of natural fibers, in classic lines has been a part of my life since I was able to choose what clothes to wear and buy. Nothing new there at all. No secret, not a trend, just good sense! This frame of mind regarding clothing/wardrobe selection will never ever go out of style. There will always be sensible people choosing sensible attire
this is a really great video!! im shocked you dont have more views/subscribers; not only are your points great but your editing and way of speaking is very clear and concise :)
It doesn’t necessarily only have to be with whiteness. There’s many black, influential people who have a lot of money and dress this way not everything has to be about trying to be white or come across as white. This is just another unattainable style, wealthy people have access to that normal people are trying to copy as usual. I shop at the row because I love the clothes does that mean I’m trying to position myself as close to whiteness as possible? No. I don’t think so. It’s simply because I can afford it. people need to stop following tiktok trends and just buy what they like and can afford instead of living vicariously through others.
I grew up in the hood in Chicago and always liked looking simplistic. No one around me did btw. It’s not about wanting to be white. It’s not wrong to like the style you like
I honest just dress nice to feel good about the quality of the materials and timeless design. No idea about Whiteness or copying or imitations or class struggles. That's all just too much. My wife likes loud and she's proud. I like quiet styles. And that's OKAY. My parents didn't give me materials or wealth btw. My wife and I made it ourselves. And I only have 1 luxury watch, 4 microbrands, and 1 Casio Royale LOL
I get this media’s “simplicity/old rich/quiet wealth/iykyk” style that’s popular but sometimes it seems like this movement is to ridicule the style/wealth of affluent black people. Media has always portrayed wealthy black rappers, athletes, artists etc with the loud rich kind of style, the styles are usually with monogrammed designer apparel and lots of jewelry when styled right it can actually look good. Most famous wealthy Black Americans weren’t born with silver spoon/old money and had to build their own wealth from scratch.
There r many old money families in Africa. They dont wear flashy blings either. Old money is stealth in most places. Blk entertainers r loud cos they r on Showbiz
Thank you for making these videos and please keep 'em coming! I'm from Latin America, currently living in a country with more than 100% annual inflation rates. I'm really interested in personal finance. My friends and coworkers do not hesitate to use a credit card to finance everything (and I mean from groceries to clothes to trips abroad). They don't even know what an emergency fund is. My family has taught me to be frugal and I couldn't be more thankful for them. There's literally no better time than now to apply saving techniques. Like you, I'm exhausted of these trends. Everyone aspires to have the same holiday, clothes, makeup look, and home. No personality at all.
It's really exhausting that every single thing has to be related to someone's race. I like the style and Im Spanish, so now what? Everything isn't just black and white. It just the individual that decides to read into it that way.
I'm sorry but Scott Disick was never Kourtney Kardashian's husband. He also is over four times wealthier then Sofie Richie's husband. She basically downgraded in the wealth department. But honestly she has her own money. Google everyone's net worth for 2023. I personally love the quiet luxury style. It doesn't mean your looking for a rich partner. It's simply a fashion style for me and it's how I choose to look. It has nothing to do with how much money I have or would ever want to have for myself or my spouse. I do love simple, minimalist clasic styles. Wich is what quiet luxury mostly looks like. And that's how I dress. It's what makes me happy and feel good about myself.
My view of what quiet luxury should be for an average person = if you’re going to spend the money to get a luxury brand item, try to get something that is “timeless” and made of incredibly good materials. Something that you will wear constantly for years, but will stay good during that time. Example, I have owned many puffer coats over the past 10 years (Zara, Uniglo, United Colors of Benneton, etc). Last year I bought an $800 puffer coat from the Burberry outlet. This is the best puffer coat I’ve ever owned - works in all weather, yet is more sleek and stylish than my previous ones, and incredibly well made. Based on my education in garment construction and textile knowledge, I genuinely think this puffer coat will last me at least 20 years. I need no more puffer coats so to me it was worth the money. Additionally, it is from Burberry but you would never know unless you look at the label (no check print in the lining). I like this because people won’t make assumptions about whether I have money. Would I buy a $500 t-shirt? No. Never. Did I buy $300 pretty plain black slide shoes from Alexander McQueen for summer because they gave me the best feet support I’ve ever felt in sandals? Yes. Have I worn any other shoe this summer? Not really. Get things that will last, that you’ll use constantly, and that you don’t have to wash often. Get wools and cashmeres and silks - luxury prices for polyester is horrible. Plan to spend the money so you won’t have to again for 30 years. Don’t do this excessively. That’s how I think you should do quiet luxury if you actually want to participate in it - don’t follow an aesthetic, buy timeless pieces in your style that you love and that are high quality enough to last for decades.
Why is it that every TikTok trend is so white-centered? From thin is in to barbiecore to old money to quiet luxury….every trend is centering on being close to whiteness and thin. You made some great points in this video!
@@introvertedandperverted1819 Yes of course there are Black trends but the TikTok algorithm doesn’t push them at the same magnitude as white ones. That and white creators often steal from Black creators (such as dances) and end up blowing up, getting invited to mainstream spaces all off of stolen dance moves.
@@zora2935 yeah Black women were having bit butts forever and it wasn’t until a nonblack person stole our aesthetic that it became hot. I was personally teased for my big butt when I was younger… TikToks algorithm is known to be r@cist and suppresses Black creators and prioritizes white ones so I stand by what I said. The trends that are most popular are white centered.
That's somewhat of a racist statement, tbh. Why is "whiteness" bad to you? If someone made your exact comment but replace "whiteness" with "blackness", would you be alright with that and not feel marginalized in some way?
Old money aesthetic and old money aesthetic…….Who said that old money is a trend ? Maybe they did by themselves to show imply they are better than the rest. Narcissistic isn’t it? Aesthetics in clothing is something personal and individual. We are different people around the world and no one is superior or higher than anyone else. We are all equal. Black , white , Chinese, coloured skin……… All equal.
I kinda like this trend, as im getting older im more drawn to neutrals and the sort of modern classic style mixed with quiet luxury. Kristin Cavallari does a great job of this.
I love quiet luxury. No bling bling, just very decent shapes and good quality. A matter of taste and good for the environment because quiet luxury products will last for many, many years.
I would not say that old money/quiet luxury is by any means positive trend, but I noticed at least one positive effect, which is ppl realizing that there is actual worth in buying more valuable clothes with better quality and timeless style instead burring yourself in Shein. However, I'm afraid majority of ppl will take only wrong lessons.
Most of my clothes are 2nd hand. I am trying, to be myself. If that's what a certain, possibly rich man likes and if I like the certain man, we will see. - But what do I know? I am living from paycheck to paycheck. That is something, I am changing. The fact, that I am without a rich man, may change, if he can show me, that he will not take away my freedom, because my freedom and my inner peace are mostly important.
This is very interesting and I’ve enjoyed the video, but I don’t share the perspective. Literally everything we wear is with the objective to impress other people. Dressing in simplistic good quality clothing is not about wanting to be white, but feeling comfortable and classy without being flashy.
I’m not american, and while I know my country has its own problems with racism that are really really terrible the way white americans treat plantations is still shocking to me. Why are they wedding venues?? It’s sick. There’s literally organisations dedicated to American history, and particularly the history of slavery, who are willing to help people handle these historical sites appropriately. They can go to those people and get help. There’s people who work trying to help African Americans find their ancestry, I’m sure they’d appreciate having access to those sites so they can hopefully find more info to help people. And I imagine some of those descendants might like input into what happens to these places! Or maybe a cut of some of that “generational wealth”. What you don’t do is turn it into a wedding venue or airbnb, how do they sleep at night??
I honestly don’t think this is a downfall of civilization I think people just need to stop living vicariously through the rich and just buy what they can afford stop following TikTok trends it’s really cringe in my opinion. when I see people doing these things and then going into tremendous amounts of debt all over a trend? I shop for luxury items because I can afford it not because I’m copying a trend and of course I do by cheaper alternatives when I find them everybody’s different.
I have pieces that I’ve been collecting from my grandmother and mother (without their permission 😉) for years. I incorporate them into my wardrobe and they fit beautifully. I guess I’ve been doing “quiet luxury” before it became popular. ❤
Old money is not my standard lol...I love my gucci/versace/brooks brothers and my look has always been understated and it's never been in...and now it is and I still don't give a shit. I love my personal style and happy I don't subscribe to the "trends", enjoy trying to please other people.
Stumbled on your video and I absolutely enjoyed it. I love learning new things and hearing new perspectives to better broaden my ability to come to my own conclusions. I really appreciate this video and I will be watching more! 🎉
3:05 I am Gen Z and I saw Lionel Ritchie in concert in 2023, It was Earth Wind and Fire and Lionel Ritchie playing together in one night. It was phenomenal, and I had so much fun! 🎶😎
This is dumb those are no longer slave quarters. They you just buildings that have been renovated. There is a mansion in north Carolina that is a huge tourist attraction. People stay there. It has former slave quarters. She thinks a rich man cares about the clothes a woman that they meet is wearing. They don't. They can buy them whatever clothes that they want them to wear. She sounds clueless.
I think it's very bizarre when I watch male trends tiktoks and they all wearing the same pants and blazers and they only differ by the clothe's color. And they also have the same beard and haircut.
What i dont agree here is that gen z chasing new trends is a new thing. People have a heard mentality since the dawn of time. Whats individuality on a capitalist society? I do agree on the other topics touched here.
My self care obsession is HEALTH and WELL BEING. Buying my Vitamix, my Pure Juicer, fasting, improving the quality of my water (Reverse Osmosis system!), turning my phone off at 8 pm ('You no call me after 8!' LOL), getting custom bloodwork done so I know EXACTLY what my body needs, getting custom vitamins designed for my body, getting IV flushes every month, fasting from social media for certain periods every quarter, prayer, recopying the Bible for the second time, playing my strings and cooking...because it relaxes me. Haven't had personal social media in over 5 years. Only for my business. My face is barely ever visible there. One of the best QUALITY things you could EVER do for yourself is to get your OWN custom bloodwork done independent of your doctor. Just doing it once! You will get a microscopic view of why you have certain irregularities and then start crafting an eating regimen to address what you find. Best thing ever! (You will get tired of the Doc telling you there's nothing wrong with you, and you know better. Be your own doctor.) Make self-care count! Don't waste on how things LOOK, what's going on under the HOOD?
I think that Airbnb piece was a little silly. Yes, a bit in bad taste. But most historical destinations globally would have to be torn down by the same criteria (slave residences, built by slaves, etc.).
I agree with you and I also don’t know that the owners of the “big house” had running water and tiles, etc. Everyone had a different life back then. All of this has been remodeled and the super host has made an investment and is creating a product in 2024. Not 1724 or 1824.
Whats misnderstood is that Quiet luxury is about Timeless Style vs fads. Timeless style is a real wool coat that FITS! and compliments your frame...vs buying off the rack and hoping for the best. A Tshirt that cost $400 is a fad, and is not quiet luxury. Yet its called quiet luxury because someone is paying $400 for a Tshirt. Quiet luxury are quality natural materials with quality construction. If you know, you know
Money is money how you use it ,it up to you it comes and goes but i dont think it should define who you are,to really know any person spend time with them 15:34
Here's how I know there is a lot of puffery in this genre. Because...when you find something that WORKS, why would you CHANGE it? Why? OK, I'll give the following possible reasons... 1) There may be acute moments of change, but that doesn't happen every year. Not even every year or month. For instance, skin changing in pregnancy or menopause. 2) A company changes the formula of a product and it no longer works. So you have to search for another solution to replace it. I have 1-3 influencers I watch RELIGIOUSLY because they have some of the same skin concerns I do, and their suggestions have REALLY worked. Other items? Gifted to me. I have a play daughter who works in retail and gives me Ole Henriksen, Sisley and Clarins samples on the REGULAR! I don't have to pay for it. I have to replenish skin care MAYBE once a year, that's how long it all lasts. When Covid hit, and I wasn't in the polluted air every day? It REALLY saved using products! I am JUST NOW, in 2024, replenishing a few things. 7 skin care brands, 19 items. I only use 4 every day. The others are used in those acute cases of need. Usually acne breakouts when cycling or cleansing. So they last 4-EVER! Especially since I was given a cosmetic fridge! 3 makeup brands, 4 items I use every day. These items work. ALL.THE.TIME. So I don't need to keep buying! The ONLY thing that I constantly buy is perfume...because perfumes are actually unique and I wear them every day...so yes, I run out. I watch hauls and such for inspiration and background noise while doing my skin care or cleaning. I was surprised to find out how many other ladies do the same. Let me re-emphasize, if it gets really hot where you are? A cosmetic fridge will be AWESOME for preserving your more expensive skincare. You don't want an $80 cream that should last a year going bad in one hot season. Just a thought.
Wow I learned so much from this video! Thank you! I love Nyx make up by the way. I got a cool purple lipstick from them. That plantation slave AirBnB made my stomach turn.... People are so f@$%n' ignorant or complacent... Or both... The minimalist movement definitely makes a mockery of people who already without choice have less. Modern day colonization continues it just wears a different mask...
32 year old millennial here 👋🏼 I think it’s a bit much to say “tik tok is going to be the downfall of civilization/society.” IMO - Like everything else, tik tok is a trend. Social media app popularity ebbs and flows. I don’t think it’s fair to say “back in my day we logged into AOL or MSN Messenger or MySpace or (insert app/website here) to find like minded people and to communicate with our friends unlike today’s generation who are only on tik tok to curate an aesthetic…” Because that is pretty much what Gen x and baby boomers said to us millennials: “back in my day we went to the mall or (insert location here) to find like minded people and to communicate with our friends.” Trends have always been and will always be a thing - you know this very well. IMO, the only thing that’s changing is the speed in which trends rise and fall. Not saying that fast fashion and surgical trends are not harmful in myriad ways, but I just don’t think it’s fair to be so hard on Gen Z and what they’re into. As a kid 10 years younger than Britney Spears back in the early 2000s, I was obsessed with dressing like her and looking like her (and similar celebrities) well into the 2010s. She was my goal ✨aesthetic. ✨ I even wanted brown contacts so I could look like her as close as possible. Kids are always gonna unhealthily follow celebs and trends until the end of time. I don’t think it’s that deep or serious. What IS serious is when teens/people in general start having irreversible surgeries like buccal fat removal to look like someone they’re not. But that has been a problem for as long as cosmetic plastic surgery has been prevalent. Bottom line, people are gonna want to copy other people and they’re always gonna want to be someone they’re not. And Gen Z is gonna go through their weird phases like the rest of us did - it’s a rite of passage. But yeah. Quit romanticizing slaves quarters you fuckin weirdos. Good grief. Having a quaint little vacation stay in a slave cabin is like pissing on their graves.
One thing that never crossed my mind but makes total sense is that old money is basically white aesthetic. It doesn't include old money from people of colour. Because our ancestors who had money, they wore intricate embroidered designs, colors, jewellerys. Plus it doesn't make sense to look like you come from money, when you're broke af. The only good thing about this trend is to use it as inspiration, like any other trends.
i have a cashmere Loro Piana sweater and one from Brooks Brothers and Lands End; all of these companies make nice sweaters without logos, . The Loro Piana is way, way more expensive.
Every fashionista will tell you there is a BIG difference between Old money and Quite Luxury!!! The first one is yes, about reach kids and reach white families wearing Loro Piano. But Quite luxury is more about minimalism, certain modesty and good materials, even MAYBE about avoiding overconsumption in some way, and of course not show off with all possible brands you have, which is tacky in terms of quite luxury. Plus quit luxury is not about high prices. Its more about chick timeless designs, even if its Uni qlo or Zara. Whe idea of these 2 fashion trends is completely different
Disagree on the make up sis. I flocked to higher priced make up because of the pay off. But drug store brands have caught up, at least some. Not their foundation though. It’s EL double wear for me sis
Girl, I love your channel and commentary, but I disagree about "old money" being first and foremost a "white" style. It is coming from England and from elsewhere in Europe, where monarchies ruled (and rule). In these countries 99,9% of the population was white as a chalk back in the day, so "old money" is bound to look inherently very white. But it is not "white" - it is by the rich, for the rich - it is exclusion by social class - not necessarily race. Let's not forget that these ruling classes have made their money (and still do make) off of OUR backs - everyone who was not or is not belonging to a powerful, rich family - not of black peoples' especially. So, one should not observe the situation through the race of these rich people only. The aesthetic is definitely not something of my country Finland, for example, nor is it affordable for a normal Finn. And we are pretty much 100 % white here in the North.
I think her point was rich people then and still now exclude BIPOC people and when they see BIPOC starting to follow the same trends or patterns they're suddenly not desirable anymore. So it is an intertwined exclusion as race does play a part into social class
Well, it is white successors of wealthy slaves owners (or those who rebelled against slave ownership and helped abolish it) who love neutrals, but it is Indian, Asian, Arab and African slave traders and owner's successors who love other aesthetics- bright colours, silks, logos, gold. You can always find an ex slave trader, owners, or exploitation heis style for your own liking if you search based on such parameter. Perhaps it's time to detach from the trauma, to move on, and simply pick a style. That style doesn't have to resemble a KKK hood or Inquisition cross, though :) Cheers.
Listen Gucci, Fendi and Prada were all exclusive of poor or POC but we as Black people took that over just like we will with this as well. Look at the evolution of Jay Z and Beyonce.
Do I agree about race maybe . But old money items have high quality martial . Wool or cotton even cashmere high quality stuff . Some of this cotton is rare and only grown in certain places . You take a bottle of creed and compare it to other colognes it’s different trust me I know .
This is beyond - taking quiet luxury and turn it into discussion about vacationing in former slave quarters - whaaaaat? Quiet luxury is defined as UNDERSTATED luxury- so buying items that are of natural fibers, classic lines, that are within a color palate that works well together. What’s “sad” is the attack of appropriate selection of clothes, accessories, that are timeless as well work well together. But then turning something that is sensible into a personal affront to yourself and your history. I wish I could find language strong enough to express the absurdities expressed here
I love old money , iit feels so chic and exclusive . That' s what we need nowadays : exclusivity over inclusivity . My wardrobe is now almost all Loro Piana e Brunello Cucinelli
I definitely agree that the “quiet luxury” trend is nonsense. Any person that was raised with class was taught that you don’t wear loud prints to show off your wealth so this isn’t technically a trend for wealth, it’s a trend to exclude non-classy people. Which in some senses is good because it’s taking us away from the trashy reality tv stars that have dominated pop culture for the past decade, however it does scream “whites only”. Also, I do have to point out that those “plantation homes” are actually old Indian homes that were stolen when the British, French, Portuguese and Spanish arrived in America. They are not actually slave plantations but Indian mansions. My Indian ancestors didn’t live in teepees, they had land, beautiful architecture, castles, pyramids, empires and kingdoms. That was all destroyed in the 1600-1800s when everything was flooded or burned down, they were removed from their lands, their homes stolen and they were forced into slavery. The history of America is wholly incorrect. Just putting that out there.
I don't understand how old money has become a trend/esthetic when I always thought it was an existence. A being. A verb. 🫠🫠🫠 you cannot dress or become old money. You just are. And quiet luxury is still supposed to be rooted in you actually having money
Well, since fashion is cyclical then this whole quiet luxury thing isn't anything new. As soon as the economy improves, I can tell you that the wealthy will be back to wearing ostentatious clothing.
I think you are so off base. Neither Sophia Richie or her husband are from old money. They are from wealth yes but not old money.
That's exactly it!
For some reason, I could NEVER get into the luxury purse thing. I don't know why. My designer bags were inheritances from my aunts. I've been asked by girlfriends, why I am not into certain brands.
I honestly think some people buy things so others can say they are somebody. I honestly think Louis Vuitton is quite ugly. LOL
Never liked Coach.
REALLY hated Dooney and Burke when it was popular.
One Chanel I was given.
Goyard bag collection given me by family...love them...but would never buy them.
I purchased 2 Chloe bags I fell in love with 8 years ago and have never purchased a luxury bag since. They totally fit my biz life.
Other than that? I actually have about 4 bags from...gasp! Amazon! I
I call it "Stupid Luxury". Rich people paying $900 for a gray T shirt that looks just like a $5 shirt from Target?
The reason a simplistic looking item can cost so much is because you're investing in something that unequivocally has higher quality.
From the craftsmanship, the attention to detail, better quality fabrics, & if you know your measurements, it will fit your body type 100x better than a cheaper item that is mass produced.
Like a 5 dollar shirt from Target.
@@roleeprime217keep telling urself that. There r certain items that make sense as high priced due to fabric, tailoring, etc. No Tshirt should cost $900. They just make Zuckerberg pay more cos he can afford it n it suits his ego.
@@roleeprime217no. There's a ceiling to even quality fabrics. Ure paying for the brand atp lmaooo
I like the concept of neutrals that are easy to mix and match. Also, buy nice pieces and switch them out. Don't buy trends and stuff that can only make it through the wash once. Also get breathable fabrics. It is really healthier for your skin. There are positives to this "trend" even though this concept has been around forever
yes!
Forever! I’ve always a neutral muted fashion girl. Since a while even.
Old money, new money, black, white, it does not matter. Live the life that you want. You should only wear whatever feels comfortable for you. It would be very boring if everyone was dressed the same. I am only wearing classic items because I like this style but I love to see other trends. For me even the blingbling sometimes is nice to look at.
I think, it does matter. If it wouldn't matter, we would all have the same chances in life. If you will be able to wear, whatever feels comfortable for you, or not, very often depends on your privilege.
I agree.
I went to school with some very wealthy people in NY. At that time it was considered "de-classe" to wear clothes with labels on the outside. I remember in the early 80's people started wearing labels on the outside, like Izod.
Personally, I am a big proponent of buying high quality clothing and I'm am highly interested in fabric quality and construction quality. So I am really big on knitwear and my closet staples from brunello cucinelli, loro piana, zegna, and tods. Personally I have never liked the idea of big labels as I never liked the idea of essentially advertising other brands. I think however a distinction needs to be made between old money aesthetic and quiet luxury. Whilst I personally support quiet luxury (and have been into quiet luxury way before it became a big thing), I thing the old money aesthetic trend is what is actually problematic. Nothing worse than supporting fast fashion brands that source cheap unethical labour, use crappy fabrics and poor construction.
The thing is, there is no such thing as quiet luxury. Luxury is luxury. Those who understand, understand when they see it. People keep coming up with nonsensical names just to sell products.
I love Tods, Loro Piana, Brunello Cucinelli, Ferragamo, etc. I want quality that lasts and timeless fashion.
i don't see or feel a major difference betwen my Lolo Piana sweater and Brooks Brothers sweater both 100% cashmere, both without labels. There are clothes between fast fashion and Hermes.
I feel like there are so many layers to this subject.... The need for validation is central to why trends exist at all. It's all a matter of who you are trying to be accepted by or impress... The lack of genuineness in people is a result of overcompensating for feelings of inadequacy, caused by capitalism, chauvanism, classism, and racism. Thank you for this thought provoking and well-presented content!
So basically, as a black woman I should dress in cheap clothes and look like a street walker to be authentic to myself? Ok then.
@@buffyannesmith6609no one said that, stop projecting. If you want to center yourself closer to whiteness, go ahead but be mindful. The thing about dressing like this is that you'll still be a black woman and that might not change how they treat you or view you because whiteness is the majority and they look down on you and sexualize you no matter what.
Wow! That's seriously what you got from the comment? Really? You really think all rich white people are dressing this way? The point is that you can wear quality clothes but they don't all have to be beige white and black for it to be luxurious. All the comment is saying is that you can wear luxurious clothes that matches your style but don't follow blindly just cos something is popular online. @@buffyannesmith6609
This.
If anything it's the opposite. She was in a bad boy phase and dated Scott bc she wanted to and then settled for a regular rich guy because she got tired of being cheated on by bad boys and thought she would be safer. And now she dresses this way solely bc her modelling days are going to be over and she needs to do smth with herself ASAP to keep her status.
She is/was already high status by virtue of being born in an extremely wealthy family tho... marrying a poor person or staying single wouldn't have affected her status whatsoever
The guy she married is "drake's baby daddy" 😂 small world
@@olgar.6604 when I am talking about her status I am also talking about her fame. someone can be rich, but want fame as well
Quiet luxury, or the "Old Money" aesthetic, has been around forever, and will continue for another 100 yrs or so. Nothing about it every changes aside from what we call it. In the 1980s, it was the "preppy" look, and it took its inspiration from the films Chariots of Fire, Maurice, and Out of Africa. Ralph Lauren drove it, but he ripped his looks from Brooks Brothers, the Ivy League, and families like the Kennedys and the Windsors. You can take this concept all the way back to the 1920s with The Great Gatsby, the Duke of Windsor, the Vanderbilts, the Astors, and even the early Bush clan.
There's nothing NEFARIOUS about the concept, to be honest. It relies ONLY on the following ideas: Quality over quantity; Subtlety over flash; and Eternal style over disposable fads. Sure, you can spend $10,000 on a tasteful cashmere or suede coat that will never go out of style, or you can buy a camel safari jacket from Banana Republic or J Crew for 200 and get the same effect. The point is to invest in classic pieces made with good fabrics that the owner can wear for decades. The end result is that 1) you will slowly build a large and versatile wardrobe that never lets you down, AND 2) you won't be laughed at when pictures of you surface 15 yrs from now of you wearing a tacky, blinged-out Versace track suit with a shiny gold lame top coat. Trust me... no one wants that.
My understanding of "quiet luxury" is investing in quality items that will last for years and usually have a more "classic" style. The items don't need to be expensive (though it will be more expensive than your average Target shirt), but they do need to be of a quality that will look good for years to come. My personal style and mentality means my clothes fit into this category but it is because I now have quality item I will own for the next 10yrs that I enjoy wearing, not because it is the "trendy" thing.
I totally agree. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
My most recent bf was born into wealth and he has inherited his father's business. He prides himself on having "quiet wealth" and dresses exactly like you've described. I've always teased him about it. Fashion eventually played a small part in our break-up because he preferred me to dress the same. He never forced me to and would take me out regardless of what I was wearing, but he did tell me several times that he thought it made him look bad. I value comfort and practicality over style because I work with animals as a job and for hobbies. Fashion might literally get me killed with some of these animals. So I often wore jeans and t shirts.
To be fair, on our very first date we went to the fair and I warned him I was dressing for comfort, not my usual office attire he was used to seeing me in from photos. (We met online.) When he first saw me, he said, "oh, you REALLY dress down..." But he still asked me on a second date. We were together for two years and then had a mutual break-up to follow different life paths. We're still friends and talk frequently.
Thank you for telling us your story.
It's the business casual for me 😂 this is definitely not *old money" because I don't see one cowboy boot in sight 😂 people who have old money focus more on personal style. That's why the way Jane Birkin carried her iconic namesake bag was the standard as opposed to the way the bag is worn and worshipped today. These people crack me up. Beige isn't old money. You look sad 😂
EXACTLY !!! The SAME people who are the poster children for 'Quiet Luxury' are the same people who's ancestors became rich enough to afford it on the backs of the people who they refuse to accept into their circles...
Old money are the people you never see. One of the best books to read is Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton. Old money has a phenomenal history of exclusion and slavery. Old money can ruin a reputation with a whisper- I worked in Princeton- where old money were the worst dressed on Nassau at. And lived in a few rooms in their massive homes to save on electric. I really wished the trend setters used a better phrase than old money. There is a higher class that lives in the stratosphere who wouldn’t be caught dead in designer clothes.
I love your videos glad I found you.
the slave cabin airbnb was literally so shocking truly incredibly ignorant that anyone would want to stay at a plantation let alone the slave cabins
Those owners are laughing all the way to the bank. They don’t care.
Lots of whyte people go there.
Is anyone else frustrated at this being referred to as a 'trend'? I feel it's the novices who got into very casually following fashion during the hypebeast/ logomania era who are just now discovering ‘quiet luxury’ and ‘stealth wealth’, calling it a trend, and discussing it ad nauseam on social media in what feels like an evolution of _their_ idea of luxury. The pendulum is swinging away from that era, and they noticed.
Did they not notice quiet luxury is nothing new? That part genuinely gave me pause. 🤔It’s bizarre seeing people behaving as if quiet luxury is some kind of brand new idea or aesthetic. It's not a 'trend', it's been people's lifestyle for decades. If anything it's a mindset. It makes sense for a lot of people to avoid the trending hopping and invest in timeless, versatile, understated pieces in neutral tones made from quality fabrics. Since when is that 'new'?
Thank you! Choosing clothing that is well constructed, of natural fibers, in classic lines has been a part of my life since I was able to choose what clothes to wear and buy. Nothing new there at all. No secret, not a trend, just good sense! This frame of mind regarding clothing/wardrobe selection will never ever go out of style. There will always be sensible people choosing sensible attire
this is a really great video!! im shocked you dont have more views/subscribers; not only are your points great but your editing and way of speaking is very clear and concise :)
Quiet luxury is basically “how can I position myself as close to whitness as possible?” I am exhausted with these trends.
Quiet luxury? No wonder we have passport bros, and the coming of the AI s3xbot, western minded woman will be obsolete whatever color she will be.
It doesn’t necessarily only have to be with whiteness. There’s many black, influential people who have a lot of money and dress this way not everything has to be about trying to be white or come across as white. This is just another unattainable style, wealthy people have access to that normal people are trying to copy as usual. I shop at the row because I love the clothes does that mean I’m trying to position myself as close to whiteness as possible? No. I don’t think so. It’s simply because I can afford it. people need to stop following tiktok trends and just buy what they like and can afford instead of living vicariously through others.
I grew up in the hood in Chicago and always liked looking simplistic. No one around me did btw. It’s not about wanting to be white. It’s not wrong to like the style you like
I honest just dress nice to feel good about the quality of the materials and timeless design. No idea about Whiteness or copying or imitations or class struggles. That's all just too much.
My wife likes loud and she's proud. I like quiet styles. And that's OKAY. My parents didn't give me materials or wealth btw. My wife and I made it ourselves. And I only have 1 luxury watch, 4 microbrands, and 1 Casio Royale LOL
That sounds kinda racist ngl
It’s all about the quality, no loud colors, looking well put together.
I get this media’s “simplicity/old rich/quiet wealth/iykyk” style that’s popular but sometimes it seems like this movement is to ridicule the style/wealth of affluent black people. Media has always portrayed wealthy black rappers, athletes, artists etc with the loud rich kind of style, the styles are usually with monogrammed designer apparel and lots of jewelry when styled right it can actually look good. Most famous wealthy Black Americans weren’t born with silver spoon/old money and had to build their own wealth from scratch.
Thank you.
There r many old money families in Africa. They dont wear flashy blings either. Old money is stealth in most places. Blk entertainers r loud cos they r on Showbiz
Thank you for making these videos and please keep 'em coming!
I'm from Latin America, currently living in a country with more than 100% annual inflation rates. I'm really interested in personal finance. My friends and coworkers do not hesitate to use a credit card to finance everything (and I mean from groceries to clothes to trips abroad). They don't even know what an emergency fund is. My family has taught me to be frugal and I couldn't be more thankful for them. There's literally no better time than now to apply saving techniques.
Like you, I'm exhausted of these trends. Everyone aspires to have the same holiday, clothes, makeup look, and home. No personality at all.
It's really exhausting that every single thing has to be related to someone's race. I like the style and Im Spanish, so now what? Everything isn't just black and white. It just the individual that decides to read into it that way.
I'm sorry but Scott Disick was never Kourtney Kardashian's husband. He also is over four times wealthier then Sofie Richie's husband. She basically downgraded in the wealth department. But honestly she has her own money. Google everyone's net worth for 2023. I personally love the quiet luxury style. It doesn't mean your looking for a rich partner. It's simply a fashion style for me and it's how I choose to look. It has nothing to do with how much money I have or would ever want to have for myself or my spouse. I do love simple, minimalist clasic styles. Wich is what quiet luxury mostly looks like. And that's how I dress. It's what makes me happy and feel good about myself.
True. The problem with tiktokers is that they pushed a different narrative.
@@blomobloom9639And therein lies the point of this video. Comprehension is a valuable skill
@@DVelez-wz3feright?
Yup.
My view of what quiet luxury should be for an average person = if you’re going to spend the money to get a luxury brand item, try to get something that is “timeless” and made of incredibly good materials. Something that you will wear constantly for years, but will stay good during that time. Example, I have owned many puffer coats over the past 10 years (Zara, Uniglo, United Colors of Benneton, etc). Last year I bought an $800 puffer coat from the Burberry outlet. This is the best puffer coat I’ve ever owned - works in all weather, yet is more sleek and stylish than my previous ones, and incredibly well made. Based on my education in garment construction and textile knowledge, I genuinely think this puffer coat will last me at least 20 years. I need no more puffer coats so to me it was worth the money. Additionally, it is from Burberry but you would never know unless you look at the label (no check print in the lining). I like this because people won’t make assumptions about whether I have money. Would I buy a $500 t-shirt? No. Never. Did I buy $300 pretty plain black slide shoes from Alexander McQueen for summer because they gave me the best feet support I’ve ever felt in sandals? Yes. Have I worn any other shoe this summer? Not really. Get things that will last, that you’ll use constantly, and that you don’t have to wash often. Get wools and cashmeres and silks - luxury prices for polyester is horrible. Plan to spend the money so you won’t have to again for 30 years. Don’t do this excessively. That’s how I think you should do quiet luxury if you actually want to participate in it - don’t follow an aesthetic, buy timeless pieces in your style that you love and that are high quality enough to last for decades.
Yup. Good piints.
Why is it that every TikTok trend is so white-centered? From thin is in to barbiecore to old money to quiet luxury….every trend is centering on being close to whiteness and thin. You made some great points in this video!
new money is very black-centered cmon, so are makeup trends. I mean maybe your recomendations don't work but as for me I see the variety
@@introvertedandperverted1819 Yes of course there are Black trends but the TikTok algorithm doesn’t push them at the same magnitude as white ones. That and white creators often steal from Black creators (such as dances) and end up blowing up, getting invited to mainstream spaces all off of stolen dance moves.
@@zora2935 yeah Black women were having bit butts forever and it wasn’t until a nonblack person stole our aesthetic that it became hot. I was personally teased for my big butt when I was younger… TikToks algorithm is known to be r@cist and suppresses Black creators and prioritizes white ones so I stand by what I said. The trends that are most popular are white centered.
How do those to hinge relate to race?
That's somewhat of a racist statement, tbh. Why is "whiteness" bad to you? If someone made your exact comment but replace "whiteness" with "blackness", would you be alright with that and not feel marginalized in some way?
Old money aesthetic and old money aesthetic…….Who said that old money is a trend ? Maybe they did by themselves to show imply they are better than the rest. Narcissistic isn’t it? Aesthetics in clothing is something personal and individual. We are different people around the world and no one is superior or higher than anyone else. We are all equal. Black , white , Chinese, coloured skin……… All equal.
I kinda like this trend, as im getting older im more drawn to neutrals and the sort of modern classic style mixed with quiet luxury. Kristin Cavallari does a great job of this.
I really enjoy your content 😌 deep and satisfying: trying to swim against the stream ❤
I love quiet luxury. No bling bling, just very decent shapes and good quality. A matter of taste and good for the environment because quiet luxury products will last for many, many years.
I think ... The real luxury is buying a 2 dollar tshirt and make it look like a 2000 one.
Yep. I’ve been saying this ever since TikTok started.
I would not say that old money/quiet luxury is by any means positive trend, but I noticed at least one positive effect, which is ppl realizing that there is actual worth in buying more valuable clothes with better quality and timeless style instead burring yourself in Shein. However, I'm afraid majority of ppl will take only wrong lessons.
Most of my clothes are 2nd hand. I am trying, to be myself. If that's what a certain, possibly rich man likes and if I like the certain man, we will see. - But what do I know? I am living from paycheck to paycheck. That is something, I am changing. The fact, that I am without a rich man, may change, if he can show me, that he will not take away my freedom, because my freedom and my inner peace are mostly important.
This is very interesting and I’ve enjoyed the video, but I don’t share the perspective. Literally everything we wear is with the objective to impress other people. Dressing in simplistic good quality clothing is not about wanting to be white, but feeling comfortable and classy without being flashy.
Thank you.
I’m not american, and while I know my country has its own problems with racism that are really really terrible the way white americans treat plantations is still shocking to me. Why are they wedding venues?? It’s sick. There’s literally organisations dedicated to American history, and particularly the history of slavery, who are willing to help people handle these historical sites appropriately. They can go to those people and get help. There’s people who work trying to help African Americans find their ancestry, I’m sure they’d appreciate having access to those sites so they can hopefully find more info to help people. And I imagine some of those descendants might like input into what happens to these places! Or maybe a cut of some of that “generational wealth”. What you don’t do is turn it into a wedding venue or airbnb, how do they sleep at night??
I am NO money so idgaf how OLD or NEW money dress. They live better lives than me anyway.
Translation: I'm poor so it must be racist
I honestly don’t think this is a downfall of civilization I think people just need to stop living vicariously through the rich and just buy what they can afford stop following TikTok trends it’s really cringe in my opinion. when I see people doing these things and then going into tremendous amounts of debt all over a trend? I shop for luxury items because I can afford it not because I’m copying a trend and of course I do by cheaper alternatives when I find them everybody’s different.
Yup.
So well said, thank you
I have pieces that I’ve been collecting from my grandmother and mother (without their permission 😉) for years. I incorporate them into my wardrobe and they fit beautifully. I guess I’ve been doing “quiet luxury” before it became popular. ❤
As the Caretaker of an abandoned 1870s African American ( freed slaves ) cemetery... this is something interesting to learn about for sure.
Old money is not my standard lol...I love my gucci/versace/brooks brothers and my look has always been understated and it's never been in...and now it is and I still don't give a shit. I love my personal style and happy I don't subscribe to the "trends", enjoy trying to please other people.
Stumbled on your video and I absolutely enjoyed it. I love learning new things and hearing new perspectives to better broaden my ability to come to my own conclusions. I really appreciate this video and I will be watching more! 🎉
3:05 I am Gen Z and I saw Lionel Ritchie in concert in 2023,
It was Earth Wind and Fire and Lionel Ritchie playing together in one night. It was phenomenal, and I had so much fun!
🎶😎
Cope and seethe.
I think everyone forgets “stealth wealth” and “quiet luxury” requires you to be wealthy first. No point cosplaying as them.
This is dumb those are no longer slave quarters. They you just buildings that have been renovated. There is a mansion in north Carolina that is a huge tourist attraction. People stay there. It has former slave quarters. She thinks a rich man cares about the clothes a woman that they meet is wearing. They don't. They can buy them whatever clothes that they want them to wear. She sounds clueless.
#:20 "off the street" had me cacklingggg
I really liked hearing your comments on this and I think you're spot on! Thanks for a great video!
Old money aesthetic and quiet luxury are fashion trends, they are not what "the rich" wear...
❤Quiet luxury is for classy women
I think it's very bizarre when I watch male trends tiktoks and they all wearing the same pants and blazers and they only differ by the clothe's color. And they also have the same beard and haircut.
Interesting considering Le Corborssier who championed the minimalism aesthetic was a known facist 😮
What i dont agree here is that gen z chasing new trends is a new thing. People have a heard mentality since the dawn of time. Whats individuality on a capitalist society?
I do agree on the other topics touched here.
My self care obsession is HEALTH and WELL BEING. Buying my Vitamix, my Pure Juicer, fasting, improving the quality of my water (Reverse Osmosis system!), turning my phone off at 8 pm ('You no call me after 8!' LOL), getting custom bloodwork done so I know EXACTLY what my body needs, getting custom vitamins designed for my body, getting IV flushes every month, fasting from social media for certain periods every quarter, prayer, recopying the Bible for the second time, playing my strings and cooking...because it relaxes me.
Haven't had personal social media in over 5 years. Only for my business. My face is barely ever visible there.
One of the best QUALITY things you could EVER do for yourself is to get your OWN custom bloodwork done independent of your doctor. Just doing it once! You will get a microscopic view of why you have certain irregularities and then start crafting an eating regimen to address what you find. Best thing ever! (You will get tired of the Doc telling you there's nothing wrong with you, and you know better. Be your own doctor.) Make self-care count! Don't waste on how things LOOK, what's going on under the HOOD?
I think that Airbnb piece was a little silly. Yes, a bit in bad taste. But most historical destinations globally would have to be torn down by the same criteria (slave residences, built by slaves, etc.).
The point is, there are appropriate ways those places are used which still make money
I agree with you and I also don’t know that the owners of the “big house” had running water and tiles, etc. Everyone had a different life back then. All of this has been remodeled and the super host has made an investment and is creating a product in 2024. Not 1724 or 1824.
Wow this opened my eyes on the things that I subconsciously ignored behind old money
it’s great that you’re so open minded :)
Whats misnderstood is that Quiet luxury is about Timeless Style vs fads. Timeless style is a real wool coat that FITS! and compliments your frame...vs buying off the rack and hoping for the best. A Tshirt that cost $400 is a fad, and is not quiet luxury. Yet its called quiet luxury because someone is paying $400 for a Tshirt. Quiet luxury are quality natural materials with quality construction. If you know, you know
Excellent content and commentary! Well done! New subscriber. ❤️
Kourtney kardashian “ex boyfriend “ not husband
Insightful episode.
Money is money how you use it ,it up to you it comes and goes but i dont think it should define who you are,to really know any person spend time with them 15:34
Here's how I know there is a lot of puffery in this genre.
Because...when you find something that WORKS, why would you CHANGE it? Why?
OK, I'll give the following possible reasons...
1) There may be acute moments of change, but that doesn't happen every year. Not even every year or month. For instance, skin changing in pregnancy or menopause.
2) A company changes the formula of a product and it no longer works. So you have to search for another solution to replace it.
I have 1-3 influencers I watch RELIGIOUSLY because they have some of the same skin concerns I do, and their suggestions have REALLY worked.
Other items? Gifted to me. I have a play daughter who works in retail and gives me Ole Henriksen, Sisley and Clarins samples on the REGULAR! I don't have to pay for it.
I have to replenish skin care MAYBE once a year, that's how long it all lasts. When Covid hit, and I wasn't in the polluted air every day? It REALLY saved using products! I am JUST NOW, in 2024, replenishing a few things.
7 skin care brands, 19 items. I only use 4 every day. The others are used in those acute cases of need. Usually acne breakouts when cycling or cleansing. So they last 4-EVER! Especially since I was given a cosmetic fridge!
3 makeup brands, 4 items I use every day.
These items work. ALL.THE.TIME. So I don't need to keep buying!
The ONLY thing that I constantly buy is perfume...because perfumes are actually unique and I wear them every day...so yes, I run out.
I watch hauls and such for inspiration and background noise while doing my skin care or cleaning. I was surprised to find out how many other ladies do the same.
Let me re-emphasize, if it gets really hot where you are? A cosmetic fridge will be AWESOME for preserving your more expensive skincare. You don't want an $80 cream that should last a year going bad in one hot season. Just a thought.
Wow I learned so much from this video! Thank you! I love Nyx make up by the way. I got a cool purple lipstick from them. That plantation slave AirBnB made my stomach turn.... People are so f@$%n' ignorant or complacent... Or both... The minimalist movement definitely makes a mockery of people who already without choice have less. Modern day colonization continues it just wears a different mask...
32 year old millennial here 👋🏼
I think it’s a bit much to say “tik tok is going to be the downfall of civilization/society.” IMO - Like everything else, tik tok is a trend. Social media app popularity ebbs and flows. I don’t think it’s fair to say “back in my day we logged into AOL or MSN Messenger or MySpace or (insert app/website here) to find like minded people and to communicate with our friends unlike today’s generation who are only on tik tok to curate an aesthetic…” Because that is pretty much what Gen x and baby boomers said to us millennials: “back in my day we went to the mall or (insert location here) to find like minded people and to communicate with our friends.”
Trends have always been and will always be a thing - you know this very well. IMO, the only thing that’s changing is the speed in which trends rise and fall. Not saying that fast fashion and surgical trends are not harmful in myriad ways, but I just don’t think it’s fair to be so hard on Gen Z and what they’re into.
As a kid 10 years younger than Britney Spears back in the early 2000s, I was obsessed with dressing like her and looking like her (and similar celebrities) well into the 2010s. She was my goal ✨aesthetic. ✨ I even wanted brown contacts so I could look like her as close as possible.
Kids are always gonna unhealthily follow celebs and trends until the end of time. I don’t think it’s that deep or serious. What IS serious is when teens/people in general start having irreversible surgeries like buccal fat removal to look like someone they’re not. But that has been a problem for as long as cosmetic plastic surgery has been prevalent.
Bottom line, people are gonna want to copy other people and they’re always gonna want to be someone they’re not. And Gen Z is gonna go through their weird phases like the rest of us did - it’s a rite of passage.
But yeah. Quit romanticizing slaves quarters you fuckin weirdos. Good grief. Having a quaint little vacation stay in a slave cabin is like pissing on their graves.
Exactly.
One thing that never crossed my mind but makes total sense is that old money is basically white aesthetic.
It doesn't include old money from people of colour. Because our ancestors who had money, they wore intricate embroidered designs, colors, jewellerys.
Plus it doesn't make sense to look like you come from money, when you're broke af.
The only good thing about this trend is to use it as inspiration, like any other trends.
wgaf
you’re literally dressing "oLD moNEy" in your profile picture😭
i have a cashmere Loro Piana sweater and one from Brooks Brothers and Lands End; all of these companies make nice sweaters without logos, . The Loro Piana is way, way more expensive.
Every fashionista will tell you there is a BIG difference between Old money and Quite Luxury!!!
The first one is yes, about reach kids and reach white families wearing Loro Piano. But Quite luxury is more about minimalism, certain modesty and good materials, even MAYBE about avoiding overconsumption in some way, and of course not show off with all possible brands you have, which is tacky in terms of quite luxury. Plus quit luxury is not about high prices. Its more about chick timeless designs, even if its Uni qlo or Zara.
Whe idea of these 2 fashion trends is completely different
I didn't know Sophia Richey existed until just now. I love Lionel, though!
Right there with you.😂
Girl, you said it all! I’m over here like preach😂🙌🏾
Disagree on the make up sis. I flocked to higher priced make up because of the pay off. But drug store brands have caught up, at least some. Not their foundation though. It’s EL double wear for me sis
Am a European and cannot imagine a B&B in old slaves cabins! Imagine auchwitz being turned into a hotel 😅 .
It s rather difficult imagine a black trapper or someone from the Bronx or Brixton wearing Loro Piana or Brunello Cucinelli
Girl, you hit this on the nail
Girl, I love your channel and commentary, but I disagree about "old money" being first and foremost a "white" style. It is coming from England and from elsewhere in Europe, where monarchies ruled (and rule). In these countries 99,9% of the population was white as a chalk back in the day, so "old money" is bound to look inherently very white. But it is not "white" - it is by the rich, for the rich - it is exclusion by social class - not necessarily race.
Let's not forget that these ruling classes have made their money (and still do make) off of OUR backs - everyone who was not or is not belonging to a powerful, rich family - not of black peoples' especially. So, one should not observe the situation through the race of these rich people only. The aesthetic is definitely not something of my country Finland, for example, nor is it affordable for a normal Finn. And we are pretty much 100 % white here in the North.
I think her point was rich people then and still now exclude BIPOC people and when they see BIPOC starting to follow the same trends or patterns they're suddenly not desirable anymore. So it is an intertwined exclusion as race does play a part into social class
Nice and courage video which i dont agree so many points but it was good to know other side of view. Well done , commented from old quiet luxury fan
Social media slowly ruined human
Well, it is white successors of wealthy slaves owners (or those who rebelled against slave ownership and helped abolish it) who love neutrals, but it is Indian, Asian, Arab and African slave traders and owner's successors who love other aesthetics- bright colours, silks, logos, gold.
You can always find an ex slave trader, owners, or exploitation heis style for your own liking if you search based on such parameter.
Perhaps it's time to detach from the trauma, to move on, and simply pick a style. That style doesn't have to resemble a KKK hood or Inquisition cross, though :)
Cheers.
Trends come and go so I expect this old money aesthetic to be gone by next year 😂.
Nope it’s an ongoing trend with a new name. Back in the day it was called the “preppy” look. Trends are recycled from the past. Nothing new.
Any time something becomes a trend in the 21st century you had better run the other way. Don't get caught up in that mess.
This must be how quiet luxury is looked at for women?? Or maybe I’m confused on what quiet luxury style is😭
Love your content! Also you are very pretty
Listen Gucci, Fendi and Prada were all exclusive of poor or POC but we as Black people took that over just like we will with this as well. Look at the evolution of Jay Z and Beyonce.
Lol, this is so Great Gatsby! East egg vs west egg!
as someone obsessed with mcbling i HATE this!!
Kourtney and Scott were never married
Scott Disick is not Kourtney's ex husband, he is the father or her three, just her ex but not her husband.
Was he then the common law husband, then he was still her ex husband, was he not?
She didn't claim him as her husband.
@@theaondracawley5441 hmm…just semantics
@@theaondracawley5441 can she change the definition of what common law means? She probably meant it in a metaphorically way rather than literally?
@@lcard9516 Laws can change.
Do I agree about race maybe . But old money items have high quality martial . Wool or cotton even cashmere high quality stuff . Some of this cotton is rare and only grown in certain places . You take a bottle of creed and compare it to other colognes it’s different trust me I know .
I like the old money look I like the vintage classy look from 40s-50s everyone dresses like a hoe In cheap fashion nova dresses
For Christ sakes ... y aren’t we capitalizing off of it.
Anyting they can do to separate themselves from the melaninated achievers.. they will do
That wig seems to idolize a white image also
This is beyond - taking quiet luxury and turn it into discussion about vacationing in former slave quarters - whaaaaat? Quiet luxury is defined as UNDERSTATED luxury- so buying items that are of natural fibers, classic lines, that are within a color palate that works well together. What’s “sad” is the attack of appropriate selection of clothes, accessories, that are timeless as well work well together. But then turning something that is sensible into a personal affront to yourself and your history. I wish I could find language strong enough to express the absurdities expressed here
Awesome!
its basically, your not my type
Subtle but opulent wedding???
What are you talking about? It can’t be both.
I love old money , iit feels so chic and exclusive . That' s what we need nowadays : exclusivity over inclusivity . My wardrobe is now almost all Loro Piana e Brunello Cucinelli
stop hating
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I definitely agree that the “quiet luxury” trend is nonsense. Any person that was raised with class was taught that you don’t wear loud prints to show off your wealth so this isn’t technically a trend for wealth, it’s a trend to exclude non-classy people. Which in some senses is good because it’s taking us away from the trashy reality tv stars that have dominated pop culture for the past decade, however it does scream “whites only”. Also, I do have to point out that those “plantation homes” are actually old Indian homes that were stolen when the British, French, Portuguese and Spanish arrived in America. They are not actually slave plantations but Indian mansions. My Indian ancestors didn’t live in teepees, they had land, beautiful architecture, castles, pyramids, empires and kingdoms. That was all destroyed in the 1600-1800s when everything was flooded or burned down, they were removed from their lands, their homes stolen and they were forced into slavery. The history of America is wholly incorrect. Just putting that out there.