I’ve been dressing like this for a few years now, mostly for the idea that it will all look timelessly stylish in 30 years, so I can feel good about buying high quality items that won’t ever look out of style.
My mom always said that beauty has nothing to do with price. *regbags* The existence of this made me believe that true luxury is the expression of one's own style, not the price tag. Here I found the best explanation of this saying
One thing i have learned over time was that most expensive items from brands like Loro Piana, Zegna, Ralph Lauren are achievable and more affordable when you can source their fabrics and get a reputable tailor, more especially for suits, jacket, coats, shirts and pants. I was once lucky to find a Loro Piana 2 meter cashmere coat fabric for $350 at a fabric seller in my city, my tailor billed me $250 for labour. It came out just as i wanted it with special details, i can't afford a $4000 coat but i got a coat with the exact fabric for $600.
It's too much good taste ! It is essentially about an uncreative trend! I'm not a brand junkie and do admire quality but this emphasis on boring conformity has to end! It's as phoney as brand glorification. Facepalm material.
I think for once this “trend” is a good one to follow, if you buy a neutral tone high quality sweater for example, you can use it for the “quiet luxury” aesthetic, but when the trend falls you can still use it with almost anything you have in your wardrobe
as it should be, it gives the secondhand market more value (why craftmanship, material, etc matter) and supports a more sustainable industry.@@stuartchilongozi2439
If your goal is buying high quality, lifetime pieces, yes. But for a trend, that's a terrible idea. You don't actually even like this look, it's only a phase and a phase that will cost u a lotttt of money. You're essentially a fraud trying to look rich for the trend. Buy into quiet luxury if you really are that guy or that girl
The amount of time, research and work that has clearly gone into this piece of work does not go un-noticed Tim.. Amazing amazing work honestly! Felt like a docu! 👏👏
It wasnt the amazing visuals that blew my mind, it was the amazing dialog throughout. You managed to condence so muuuuch fashion lore into a few sentences. Amazing video
In many circumstances less is more, also versatility is key. I like buying clothes that matches with one another so I stick to the minimalism which becomes a timeless aesthetic.
highly appreciate the effort that you put into researching and producing this video, I love to get informed of new items and discuss new pop-up ones like this, fashion is intriguing and not in a static state.
I believe the movement towards sustainability from both corporations and consumers has also contributed to the rise of quiet luxury. When you are buying less pieces with better fabric, you are reducing the quantity you put in the landfill. When the clothes do end up in the trash, they biodegrade a lot quicker than the fast fashion. So it’s a win-win that way too.
Ngl I actually feel like we’re going backwards in terms of sustainability. Ever heard of fast fashion? There are mass production of countless products. The goal of corporations is to put out as much product as fast as possible and not only that but the price has gone up and the quality has gone down. Places like Shein are guilty of this.
This reasoning has always felt hollow to me when it comes to fashion. I've seen similar things about say workwear (durable, high quality etc) only for people to leave behind their double knees and Detroit jackets when the next trend arrives. Sure you could argue that quiet luxury is more timeless, especially in an urban setting, but I'm willing to bet most of the people jumping in on the trend right now won't be wearing this stuff for the next 10 years.
@@jefvermelen4171 yea that is true. Even if it is the trend these days, trends come and go super fast. People will always want the new shiny things and discard of the old as fast as using toilet paper.
Yea I have heard of it that’s why I mentioned it in my comment. They mass produce yes but it’s still our choice as consumers to pick things better than that. I wouldn’t equate shein with quiet luxury lol. It’s the opposite. When you choose better quality with versatility you don’t need shein anymore. You actually save money in the long run, which people are looking to do in todays economy, as the video states.
@@icyglam1895 yes but let’s be honest here, you can’t count on everyone to be sensible people. MOST people are going to go for the newest fad and trends don’t last. People still like to buy and discard clothes really fast.
I live in the UK and remember the recession in the 1990's. At the end of it, the fashion retailer that had done the best was Gap, who had gone down the route of selling basic styles in neutral colours. I remember walking past a store once, their window was full of black and white. I thought it was really boring but I was wrong. People wanted simple, easy mix and match styles as they could not afford to make a costly mistake. I am glad to see some people are learning the value of classic styles in quality fabrics, that form the backbone of a good wardrobe. Conspicuous consumption is so out of step with the times, economically and environmentally. I am looking forward to seeing people dressing better - no athleisurewear. I have noticed a lot more women wearing simple but pretty dresses. Long may that trend continue too.
To achieve quiet luxury is to also have a steam iron, lint roller, a tailor, signature fragrance, shoe cleaner or shinner and a good skin care, grooming regime, and quality undergarments. Also be socially conscious and invest your money in a wealth portfolio. It’s not just a fashion trend, it’s a lifestyle and it’s all in the details.
This is why it's almost impossible if you've just pennies to spend lol quality fabrics comes with a price tag. Good tailor comes with a price tag. Time pieces that don't look like cheap shits, come with a price tag. Signature fragrance probably something you can get away with. There's a reason why after "quiet" it's "luxury"... He didn't explain about where people with old money eat out, hang out.. or who they're hanging out with... Definitely not gonna be places and people that people like me, not even a nouveau riche, know and can afford. So even if i can emulate the style impeccably, even up close, nobody would think I'm an old money person 😂 They'll just think--at best--I'm prudent with my money. They'll probably think I have an old soul. But obviously not of old money. I love my best friends. They're the live of my life. But by God, they're brash and fun and loyal. They're not old money type of people because they're not. But I love them. Quiet luxury isn't something you can emulate just like that because it's systemic..
So to achieve quiet luxury you need to be rich and have mad money. To which you might as well afford your own stylist and just pay someone to dress you every day.
I had been intrigued by your community post from last week, as this channel has been one of the best on RUclips's fashion side for years. You put your money where your mouth was; this video was a true joy to watch. You and your team have reached a new high with this one 👏
I really like the historical part of this video, it just goes to show that despite how much the world changed we still unknowingly engage on the same patterns of behaviors.
I’ve gotten tired of buying luxury items as it doesn’t really get me anywhere in life. I’m not saying I’ll never buy luxury items ever again. I mostly buy my clothes in H&M and Zara, and the money I would use to buy a designer luxury item, I would use it to go on a trip. Traveling is the ULTIMATE luxury.
Tim, that blue high end cable knit sweater is too beautiful for words. Even though the price point is insane, the color did wonders for your skin tone. Memorizing! I hope you can find that same color sweater within your price point. It put you on David Gandy level!😉
Fantastic video, great work Tim. I personally still enjoy a logo here or there with visual interest stemming more from non-neutral colours and print/embroidery. I do however feel that once I reach my late 20's early 30's I'll want to dress more like this, and I'm certainly looking to get a good timepiece in the not-so-distant future.
I feel this video should receive an award. It’s so truthful, thoughtful, informative and objective . The bit when you say it’s not really a trend was spot on, being well appropriately dressed while maintaining an understated elegance has always been been in style.
the rise of quiet luxury is also a social phenomenon that is worth additional thought and discussion. As Tim said in the video, quiet luxury favors neutral colors, and this favor towards mild colors actually symbolizes people's growing conservative attitudes in economics recession. This also happens back then: before the bubble broke, Japan also favor wild colors and appreciate diverse aesthetic standards, yet with economic recession. they shifted their appeal to more neutral, standard, and in-a-nutshell conservative aesthetics.
What about people's attitudes to sex? it seems in 2000s all movies showed the bachelor lifestyle with casual sex. Now all people around me are talking about marriage and "true love". What changed? Did you notice this shift?
@@nicholas7548sex became « cheap», with the mix of feminism, mass production of contraception, pop culture glorifying casual sex/divorcd, rise of the dateing apps. So the value of sex plumeted, also in status.
The problem with this new obsession with "quiet luxury" is most people don't understand what quality even is. I've worked in luxury retail and most people come in saying "Oh this is great quality" without knowing any objective measures of quality. By trying to imitate the "old money" look with cheaper brands, you're not impressing anyone who understands high end clothing, similar to wearing a replica/fake watch (the look may be there, but the signs of quality are not). The first step is having your wardrobe made for you. Not only would you nail the fit (or at least achieve a fit superior to RTW), you have the option to express yourself in the details and not find your clothes ubiquitously draped on others. Secondly, prioritize the artisan, not the brand. You go to a shirtmaker for a shirt, a suitmaker for a suit, and a shoemaker for shoes. I see in your video that you use a lot of Ralph Lauren Purple Label and Cucinelli ads, however there are much better makers that specialize in certain garments. Not to say these brands are bad, I'm a big fan of both BC and RLPL but Cucinelli is 90% machine made and vastly overpriced (in part due to the fairer wages BC pays in Solomeo) while RLPL is made by St. Andrews & Caruso. Alternatively, you could try individual tailoring houses that specialize in their own house cut depending on your style (Eg. A Florentine cut by Liverano&Liverano or a softer Neapolitan cut by Orazio Luciano). In that similar vein, rather than getting shoes from The Row, Cucinelli, and LP like mentioned in the video, why not try world renowned bespoke shoemakers such as Yohei Fukuda, Stefano Bemer, or George Cleverley instead. The signs of quality would be the hand set collars, pick stitching and tacking done by hand, buttonholes meticulously finished by hand, the hand sewn apron on loafers with beveled waists. These are the painstakingly precise and time consuming details that cannot be replicated in cheap, mass produced garments that are indicative of heirloom quality and bespoke craftsmanship.
I got most of my quality items by thrifting. Yes handmade and bespoke items are always high quality but not affordable for most people. Thrifting is an inexpensive way to get quality items but don't set the standard too high. Machine stitch, plastic buttons are still ok, but always look for 100% natural fabric. Then try the fit, try to move your arms and legs in them. Look for fit that can still be altered.
I'll pick "sartorial" brands over "designer" ones every time. Because they are marketing through appeal to quality of construction, materials and timeless cuts, while designer brands are just appealing to luxury. It's nonsence that 50$ spier&mackay shirt will have info about what type of cotton, weave, thickness of fabric, stitching details etc etc shirt has, while giving you 3 option for fit and 3 for sleeve length. At the same time 100-200$ designer shirt will just say something like "premium cotton" and will have poorer stitch quality and construction.
You have absolutely no idea what you are even talking about. Everything that you mentioned about tailoring, wardrobe, made for you, whatever falls under couture, and tailoring.... Bankers; Rothchild's, etc... Please, get a grip. Something that is high quality is obviously basically; small and tight stiching, good quality fabrics, etc. Really, you don't think people KNOW how to see, and feel quality.
@@curlyhairdudeify I apologize if I offended you. Just giving my two cents as a clothing maker. Usually clients will ask how to discern between a handmade garment vs a mass produced one and more often than not they enjoy being shown the various subtleties of craftsmanship and the benefits of each. Hope you have a wonderful day!
Amazing video Tim!!! The work that you and your team put into the production is very evident. I love how your content is always improving and teaching me something new - keep up the awesome work :)
Everything really is in cycles. We keep alternating between minimalism and maximalism in response to one another, we hardly ever get periods of utilitarian fashion - which makes sense as fashion is a form of self-expression. I also however find it really funny how while it's "a form of self-expression," it follows trends meaning it's more an expression of the group mind than it is the individual.
@@TimDessaint It was a sick running into you, I was gassed haha 😆! Had an unbelievable holiday thanks. Hope you enjoyed your brief time in Sweden getting inked up!
Hey great content as usual. I notice pretty much of the “quiet luxury” pieces are geared towards temperate or colder climate. How about a video on quiet luxury for the tropics - yes, places with perpetually humid and hot climate. Hello from Singapore.
Linen and cotton are your foundation. Silk and lightweight wool if you can afford them. Always look for 100% natural fabric, more breathable than synthetics. Protect your skin from uv by covering in natural fabric. Wear wide brim hat like panama. Straw and paper hats if you can find them, no synthetics.
Thank you Tim for emphasizing the "trend" aspect of this not so quiet fashion trend. It's all fabricated by the industry to boost sales and overconsumption because people always follow trends to define their personal style. In the end, I believe fast fashion machine is the one who get most benefit because general public absolutely can't access luxury brand. Fast fashion and quite luxury are match made in heaven to bring catastrophe to our environment and we are going to move on into the next fashion trend anytime soon.
I’d add 2 more things to this video: sustainability & saving time. People are getting busy / don’t want to waste their time / having a headache on thinking what to wear & constantly searching to buy new stuff. You know, you’ve got a few quality pieces which you can combine/ play with & also, they’d last longer.
this style, ironically, is easier on the wallet(in the long run) and forces you to look for quality and be creative; instead of just buying products to show off.
I don’t know how easy on the wallet will it be to constantly be going in and out of dry cleaners tho plus £2 000 for a sweater in price per wear, it would probably have to be like your daily for a couple years
@@memelord3348 - you can usually throw everything in the washing machine. Use the hand wash program and a wool/silk detergent (without enzymes). I've washed all my "dry clean only" silks and cashmeres in the machine for years. It's up to you if you want to live dangerously though. 🙃
Also emulating the old money people is not a good mindset, they are gatekeeping their social circle, basically live in different world. It is not affordable to not only dress like them but also participate in their expensive activities. I started to build my wardrobe following this aesthetic mostly by thrifting. I just aspire to dress like common men back in the day. Suits, ties, hat, add a bit of color and pattern. Even the current fits for quiet luxury look too bland for me, too monochromatic and no individuality. Look at the historical imagery in early to mid 20th century, you will understand the different vibe compare to today quiet luxury fits.
I love the minimalist approach to clothing. Less is more. Good quality natural fabrics breathe better and are healthier. I rather have one good quality 100% wool jacket than 10 polyester ones. I have never liked logos plastered everywhere it looks tacky and a cry for attention because you are not comfortable in your own skin. Over the top colour or print can also become boring fast. But with life getting busier it's just nice to keep things simpler.
Gosh, fav video of the year! It has really good information, some tips, an example with the sweater (which looks incredible 🥺💕) and some very good conclusions. Love these videos, Tim!!
Glad to see someone in the fashion community who isn't denouncing 'Quiet Luxury'. You have a very practical and balanced view on it. I honestly don't understand why so many fashion youtubers hate on it, when all it is is high quality fitted clothing.
Honestly, all of this stuff gets lost on the likes of me, who neither pays attention to, nor care, about clothes. If I can rule the world as God Emperor of the Known Universe, I'd just make everyone always go naked. Screw clothes. They're a bother and a chore to clean, fold up, and don't even get me started on weggies and having to do laundry. Oh and the moth balls. At best we go Ancient Greek and wrap a sheet around the body and secure it with pins. You get jackets in winter. lol.
I actually really enjoy this style, as it really is something I always really adored; that it is now becoming more attention right when I decided to get more into fashion, is but a nice coincidence, as it probably will make it easier to get these looks and to get advice on how to achieve them. Also it makes for some damn good looking people~
Since ive gotten alot of piecies from Uniqlo my average style also leans towards the "old money" looks. They defintely have some good piecies like cable knit sweater , certain polos etc
I thrifted 4 pairs of Loro Piana pants just before this whole aesthetic started trending. Truly some of the nicest pants I've ever owned and I probably don't deserve them lol
loved the way u really gave us a deep idea about its pros and cos and how this trend works.... i agree with the quote u said is that quiet luxury existed forever.. nice dude.. keep up buddy...
Really enjoyed this. As a fellow content creator, I have some constructive feedback. (Only meant to help you improve). The bass in your mic is a bit hard to listen to. I would go into the audio EQ and simply bring down the low frequencies a bit to get rid of the harsh bass when you’re speaking. Cheers!
Great video. But I think you could have gone into more detail about the differences between quiet luxury and stealth wealth. Because as far as I understand, the latter is not just a synonym for quiet luxury. It rather describes a style that can be found on crazy-rich people like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg, that wear basic off-the-rack clothing in order to appear more down to earth and to "hide" their wealth. Whilst quiet luxury is about showing off your knowledge about the "right" brands to wear and of course your wealth, but only to those who know as well (as you pointed out in the video).
Beautiful and elegant; however, over time it becomes boring and lacks creativity. Same goes for decor. I am ready for bright colors, variety and joy! Still kept my basic classic clothing pieces and somewhat minimalist “chic” decor but ready for so much more in the way of texture and color. I’m just bored with beige, camel, grey, navy, white and black.
But to be honest, did you at any point, thought of buying a supreme branded anything or rather "meh" hublot watches? Any thoughts on Nike fleece? I'd say let them outcast themselves in overpriced insecurity. After all, the fact that you can recreate almost anything on the budget, sometimes even transforming it into something better or more personalized says a lot more as both a fashion statement and points for personalization for yourself.
People love saying this generation, but which one exactly? Millennials or Gen Z? Millennials like my self are in our mid to late 30’s, and most doesn’t care about fashion at that age/stage in their lives. Too busy being parents.
Always hated logo culture, something i grew out of by 16. While not necessarily luxury, Club Monaco has been a staple in my wardrobe for the simple classic staples that have lasted me years, some over a decade.
Tim dessaint with a video essay??? I’m all in. ((Dampen the audio and remove the slight echo for these types of vids. It’s not bad but I think the room audio works better in other vids)) More vids like these please ty
Quiet luxury has never been a "trend" for those into fashion, it is the norm. Trend chasrs are "discovering" something classy people have known for decades. But I agree with the notion that tailoring of cheaper clothes is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than expensive brands that are poorly fitting.
The rise of this trend is because kids today are worried about looking rich instead of getting rich. Dressing like an old money while living with a paycheck in a one bedroom studio and driving a $40k car is super hilarious.
😂😂 hillarious how old doomers assume everything is wrong today. What about the proverty of the 1900s. Far more people are becoming rich now that that time. And didn't people always wanted to look wealthier since the industrial revoltution? Atleast now the rich folks won't humiliate the poor.
Great video!! In just a short amount of time I learned about Old Money and Quiet Luxury. I liked this style before I knew how to call it, nice to be able to name it now haha.
Every crash /collapse/inflation or a recession offers an equal market opportunity if you are well prepared and knowledgeable. I've seen people accumulate up to $800,000 during crises and even pull it off with ease in a bad economy. Without a doubt, the bubble or crash has made someone extremely wealthy.
A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.
I think two significant mindsets for quiet luxury is buying for life and being tailored. When choosing quiet luxury items it's all about choosing pieces that are timeless and durable (buy it for life), so fast fashion items, although has the "look" of quiet luxury and will be against the entire thing. Another thing about it is being tailored to your body type. A lot of wealthy people, regardless of their body type, tend to have their clothes fit them well and their silhouettes. And that's mostly because most of their clothing are tailored fit for them.
Ngl I like the exact opposite of this style😅😬. I like more complex fashion. I like the artistry that goes into clothes, the patterns and textures, the colors and shapes…etc. I especially love embroidery. I don’t buy as much clothes as other people because of that. I look for the quality over the quantity. I like clothes that are interesting to look at which some people might think is excessive and flashy.
me too. while I do like a good white tee, or a pair of straight leg jeans, I also like clothes with color, texture, shape, movement, etc. you should just do you! a year from now, the culture will have moved on to the next zippily named trend .
maybe around 10 yrs ago or so, i bought a cashmere zip-up hoodie a while back, it might've actually been J. Crew, or similar-type brand which cost me maybe a little over a$100 at the time because it was on sale. It was an amazing zip-up hoodie in fit and comfort. Eventually, it began to pill excessively after a few years of ownership, so i think it actually held up better than expected because i didn't even baby it. Was it the most expensive hoodie i ever bought? Yup, but it held up well, and didn't cost nearly as much as the other luxury brands. But now, i don't even bother with cashmere because merino wool is just a lot easier to maintain and is a lot cheaper
"Quiet Luxury" is nothing more than how people of good taste used to dress a few decades ago, but it's a style that was only now discovered by poor young people in their 20s lol
Advertising your style as quiet luxury paradoxically creates the exact opposite effect. It makes you look low class because you're signaling too much. I enjoy many fashion subgenres and varieties, but quiet luxury seems like a waste of time and money. It's just country club attire with a bit of hype behind it.
Exactly lol plus im just a regular dude and im not even white and im gen z. Im not some dude whose last name is rothschild or something so old money / quiet luxury is not for me
It's true that if everyone decided that a camel coat is the thing to have it would automatically be neither quiet nor luxurious. Still if you isolate the pieces on its own, a nice suit or a well made sweater has their intrinsic value (good for formal occasions, keeps you warm, probably a bit more durable) but as Tim says it would need to fit into your lifestyle as well (if you don't need a suit - and I'm not talking about a sport jacket and chinos - to go to work in then you probably wouldn't make much use of it).
Interesting analysis. One additional factor you might want to consider is that a lot of those who have money, in the West especially, are ageing - they are reaching or are already above 40. Usually, adopting a more sensible and timeless aesthetic is part of the process. Your photo of David Beckham is a good example.
I’ve been dressing like this for a few years now, mostly for the idea that it will all look timelessly stylish in 30 years, so I can feel good about buying high quality items that won’t ever look out of style.
Same, I don’t need all these logos
Quality over quantity.
Same
The production value of this video is insane. And really like the message brought out at the end of the video!
Tim wasn't joking about upping the production quality and I'm all here for it.
I echo your sentiment. Great upload
Yes and brilliant research too
My mom always said that beauty has nothing to do with price. *regbags* The existence of this made me believe that true luxury is the expression of one's own style, not the price tag. Here I found the best explanation of this saying
One thing i have learned over time was that most expensive items from brands like Loro Piana, Zegna, Ralph Lauren are achievable and more affordable when you can source their fabrics and get a reputable tailor, more especially for suits, jacket, coats, shirts and pants. I was once lucky to find a Loro Piana 2 meter cashmere coat fabric for $350 at a fabric seller in my city, my tailor billed me $250 for labour. It came out just as i wanted it with special details, i can't afford a $4000 coat but i got a coat with the exact fabric for $600.
Yessss. Be smart, be creative, seek and you will find. Good job man
Wow, that's a really good idea. Thanks man
Where's that polo from
@@RA-uq5rg ??
There is a Loro Piana Outlet in Central Valley NY
This video is absolute high quality, I think the quiet luxury look is amazing, as long its not to effortless looking.
omg i watch u guys for so long !!
can't believe its you, i remember watching your Zayn Malik hairstyle tutorial way back in 2013 when One direction was the trend.
It's too much good taste ! It is essentially about an uncreative trend! I'm not a brand junkie and do admire quality but this emphasis on boring conformity has to end! It's as phoney as brand glorification. Facepalm material.
I think for once this “trend” is a good one to follow, if you buy a neutral tone high quality sweater for example, you can use it for the “quiet luxury” aesthetic, but when the trend falls you can still use it with almost anything you have in your wardrobe
It's the most expensive
as it should be, it gives the secondhand market more value (why craftmanship, material, etc matter) and supports a more sustainable industry.@@stuartchilongozi2439
If your goal is buying high quality, lifetime pieces, yes. But for a trend, that's a terrible idea. You don't actually even like this look, it's only a phase and a phase that will cost u a lotttt of money. You're essentially a fraud trying to look rich for the trend. Buy into quiet luxury if you really are that guy or that girl
this is what a fashion vlog suppose to be, very informative, authentic and straight to the point ❤️
WE HAVE TO APPRECIATE THE HIGHER QUALITY VIDEO AND DAMN WOW THIS FELT LIKE A WHOLE DOCUMENTARY 😭😭❤
Thank you 🙏❤️
@@TimDessainttim what brand u wearing on the white shirt.
The amount of time, research and work that has clearly gone into this piece of work does not go un-noticed Tim.. Amazing amazing work honestly! Felt like a docu! 👏👏
It wasnt the amazing visuals that blew my mind, it was the amazing dialog throughout. You managed to condence so muuuuch fashion lore into a few sentences. Amazing video
In many circumstances less is more, also versatility is key. I like buying clothes that matches with one another so I stick to the minimalism which becomes a timeless aesthetic.
highly appreciate the effort that you put into researching and producing this video, I love to get informed of new items and discuss new pop-up ones like this, fashion is intriguing and not in a static state.
I believe the movement towards sustainability from both corporations and consumers has also contributed to the rise of quiet luxury. When you are buying less pieces with better fabric, you are reducing the quantity you put in the landfill. When the clothes do end up in the trash, they biodegrade a lot quicker than the fast fashion. So it’s a win-win that way too.
Ngl I actually feel like we’re going backwards in terms of sustainability. Ever heard of fast fashion? There are mass production of countless products. The goal of corporations is to put out as much product as fast as possible and not only that but the price has gone up and the quality has gone down. Places like Shein are guilty of this.
This reasoning has always felt hollow to me when it comes to fashion. I've seen similar things about say workwear (durable, high quality etc) only for people to leave behind their double knees and Detroit jackets when the next trend arrives.
Sure you could argue that quiet luxury is more timeless, especially in an urban setting, but I'm willing to bet most of the people jumping in on the trend right now won't be wearing this stuff for the next 10 years.
@@jefvermelen4171 yea that is true. Even if it is the trend these days, trends come and go super fast. People will always want the new shiny things and discard of the old as fast as using toilet paper.
Yea I have heard of it that’s why I mentioned it in my comment. They mass produce yes but it’s still our choice as consumers to pick things better than that. I wouldn’t equate shein with quiet luxury lol. It’s the opposite. When you choose better quality with versatility you don’t need shein anymore. You actually save money in the long run, which people are looking to do in todays economy, as the video states.
@@icyglam1895 yes but let’s be honest here, you can’t count on everyone to be sensible people. MOST people are going to go for the newest fad and trends don’t last. People still like to buy and discard clothes really fast.
I live in the UK and remember the recession in the 1990's.
At the end of it, the fashion retailer that had done the best was Gap, who had gone down the route of selling basic styles in neutral colours. I remember walking past a store once, their window was full of black and white.
I thought it was really boring but I was wrong.
People wanted simple, easy mix and match styles as they could not afford to make a costly mistake.
I am glad to see some people are learning the value of classic styles in quality fabrics, that form the backbone of a good wardrobe.
Conspicuous consumption is so out of step with the times, economically and environmentally.
I am looking forward to seeing people dressing better - no athleisurewear.
I have noticed a lot more women wearing simple but pretty dresses.
Long may that trend continue too.
To achieve quiet luxury is to also have a steam iron, lint roller, a tailor, signature fragrance, shoe cleaner or shinner and a good skin care, grooming regime, and quality undergarments. Also be socially conscious and invest your money in a wealth portfolio. It’s not just a fashion trend, it’s a lifestyle and it’s all in the details.
Well said
Facts! Knowing your way around an iron is key. A $40 polo can look just as good as a $100 one if its pressed and has a proper fit.
This is why it's almost impossible if you've just pennies to spend lol quality fabrics comes with a price tag. Good tailor comes with a price tag. Time pieces that don't look like cheap shits, come with a price tag. Signature fragrance probably something you can get away with. There's a reason why after "quiet" it's "luxury"... He didn't explain about where people with old money eat out, hang out.. or who they're hanging out with... Definitely not gonna be places and people that people like me, not even a nouveau riche, know and can afford. So even if i can emulate the style impeccably, even up close, nobody would think I'm an old money person 😂 They'll just think--at best--I'm prudent with my money. They'll probably think I have an old soul. But obviously not of old money. I love my best friends. They're the live of my life. But by God, they're brash and fun and loyal. They're not old money type of people because they're not. But I love them. Quiet luxury isn't something you can emulate just like that because it's systemic..
So to achieve quiet luxury you need to be rich and have mad money. To which you might as well afford your own stylist and just pay someone to dress you every day.
😅 so so true
I had been intrigued by your community post from last week, as this channel has been one of the best on RUclips's fashion side for years. You put your money where your mouth was; this video was a true joy to watch. You and your team have reached a new high with this one 👏
Can I just applaud the effort you’ve put in making this video? Respect to you, sir! Very informative and well presented 👏
The quality of this video from production to information wise is incredible
I've been after this style for a few years. So glad it's a trend now, it makes it a bit more affordable finally
I really like the historical part of this video, it just goes to show that despite how much the world changed we still unknowingly engage on the same patterns of behaviors.
Didn’t expect to see my B-rolls 7:04 in Tim’s video. Great video as always mate!
LOVE this new style of documentary-style videos!! Would love to see more alongside the usual fashion guides!!!
Thank you for this video! Made me realize this is the style I’ve loved my whole life and couldn’t afford until now
I’ve gotten tired of buying luxury items as it doesn’t really get me anywhere in life. I’m not saying I’ll never buy luxury items ever again. I mostly buy my clothes in H&M and Zara, and the money I would use to buy a designer luxury item, I would use it to go on a trip. Traveling is the ULTIMATE luxury.
Yea if you have to decide between them, I don't think you are at that consumer level
Hear! Hear!
I think what matters the most is a great watch that solidifies a look. So I think investing in quality watch is a great investment
Traveling really is the ultimate luxury and flex. No better feeling that exposing and exploring our Mother Earth 🌍
Zara is very good clothes and sofisticate without being expensive.
Tim, that blue high end cable knit sweater is too beautiful for words. Even though the price point is insane, the color did wonders for your skin tone. Memorizing! I hope you can find that same color sweater within your price point.
It put you on David Gandy level!😉
Fantastic video, great work Tim. I personally still enjoy a logo here or there with visual interest stemming more from non-neutral colours and print/embroidery. I do however feel that once I reach my late 20's early 30's I'll want to dress more like this, and I'm certainly looking to get a good timepiece in the not-so-distant future.
details on this video is insane tim! clearly well put. thanks for another banger!
Thank you Nick! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
Such a brilliantly curated video! Really enjoyed this one Tim
Thank you Adam 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it!
that was beautiful and possibly one of my favorite videos you've put out yet. at the end of the day "dress authentically".
I feel this video should receive an award. It’s so truthful, thoughtful, informative and objective . The bit when you say it’s not really a trend was spot on, being well appropriately dressed while maintaining an understated elegance has always been been in style.
Great video ! Also as a French your pronunciation of « Versailles » caught me off guard, it really was on point
the rise of quiet luxury is also a social phenomenon that is worth additional thought and discussion. As Tim said in the video, quiet luxury favors neutral colors, and this favor towards mild colors actually symbolizes people's growing conservative attitudes in economics recession. This also happens back then: before the bubble broke, Japan also favor wild colors and appreciate diverse aesthetic standards, yet with economic recession. they shifted their appeal to more neutral, standard, and in-a-nutshell conservative aesthetics.
What about people's attitudes to sex? it seems in 2000s all movies showed the bachelor lifestyle with casual sex. Now all people around me are talking about marriage and "true love". What changed? Did you notice this shift?
Good point - I get weird looks walking around in fuchsia or bright blue.
@@nicholas7548sex became « cheap», with the mix of feminism, mass production of contraception, pop culture glorifying casual sex/divorcd, rise of the dateing apps.
So the value of sex plumeted, also in status.
Shout out to the editor that put this fire video together 😏 WE SEE YOU KING
The problem with this new obsession with "quiet luxury" is most people don't understand what quality even is. I've worked in luxury retail and most people come in saying "Oh this is great quality" without knowing any objective measures of quality. By trying to imitate the "old money" look with cheaper brands, you're not impressing anyone who understands high end clothing, similar to wearing a replica/fake watch (the look may be there, but the signs of quality are not).
The first step is having your wardrobe made for you. Not only would you nail the fit (or at least achieve a fit superior to RTW), you have the option to express yourself in the details and not find your clothes ubiquitously draped on others. Secondly, prioritize the artisan, not the brand. You go to a shirtmaker for a shirt, a suitmaker for a suit, and a shoemaker for shoes. I see in your video that you use a lot of Ralph Lauren Purple Label and Cucinelli ads, however there are much better makers that specialize in certain garments. Not to say these brands are bad, I'm a big fan of both BC and RLPL but Cucinelli is 90% machine made and vastly overpriced (in part due to the fairer wages BC pays in Solomeo) while RLPL is made by St. Andrews & Caruso. Alternatively, you could try individual tailoring houses that specialize in their own house cut depending on your style (Eg. A Florentine cut by Liverano&Liverano or a softer Neapolitan cut by Orazio Luciano).
In that similar vein, rather than getting shoes from The Row, Cucinelli, and LP like mentioned in the video, why not try world renowned bespoke shoemakers such as Yohei Fukuda, Stefano Bemer, or George Cleverley instead.
The signs of quality would be the hand set collars, pick stitching and tacking done by hand, buttonholes meticulously finished by hand, the hand sewn apron on loafers with beveled waists. These are the painstakingly precise and time consuming details that cannot be replicated in cheap, mass produced garments that are indicative of heirloom quality and bespoke craftsmanship.
I got most of my quality items by thrifting. Yes handmade and bespoke items are always high quality but not affordable for most people. Thrifting is an inexpensive way to get quality items but don't set the standard too high. Machine stitch, plastic buttons are still ok, but always look for 100% natural fabric. Then try the fit, try to move your arms and legs in them. Look for fit that can still be altered.
I'll pick "sartorial" brands over "designer" ones every time. Because they are marketing through appeal to quality of construction, materials and timeless cuts, while designer brands are just appealing to luxury.
It's nonsence that 50$ spier&mackay shirt will have info about what type of cotton, weave, thickness of fabric, stitching details etc etc shirt has, while giving you 3 option for fit and 3 for sleeve length. At the same time 100-200$ designer shirt will just say something like "premium cotton" and will have poorer stitch quality and construction.
You have absolutely no idea what you are even talking about. Everything that you mentioned about tailoring, wardrobe, made for you, whatever falls under couture, and tailoring.... Bankers; Rothchild's, etc...
Please, get a grip. Something that is high quality is obviously basically; small and tight stiching, good quality fabrics, etc.
Really, you don't think people KNOW how to see, and feel quality.
@@curlyhairdudeify I apologize if I offended you. Just giving my two cents as a clothing maker. Usually clients will ask how to discern between a handmade garment vs a mass produced one and more often than not they enjoy being shown the various subtleties of craftsmanship and the benefits of each. Hope you have a wonderful day!
I absolutely enjoyed reading your analysis and as a dressmaker myself, I daresay it's spot on!
Amazing video Tim!!! The work that you and your team put into the production is very evident. I love how your content is always improving and teaching me something new - keep up the awesome work :)
Really good job Tim!! Loved all the knowledge i took from the video
Such a great collection of clothes and pre owned bags! A vintage *amzclothes* is definitely also on my list
Everything really is in cycles. We keep alternating between minimalism and maximalism in response to one another, we hardly ever get periods of utilitarian fashion - which makes sense as fashion is a form of self-expression. I also however find it really funny how while it's "a form of self-expression," it follows trends meaning it's more an expression of the group mind than it is the individual.
Nailed it !
Yoo this video was crazy, you went in Tim, hats off, this was unbelievable!
Thank you Koby! Appreciate it 🙏 Great running into you in the airport btw! Hope you had a nice trip :)
@@TimDessaint It was a sick running into you, I was gassed haha 😆! Had an unbelievable holiday thanks. Hope you enjoyed your brief time in Sweden getting inked up!
The best part of this "trend" is that none of the pieces will go out of style
exactly! Go for a minimal, timeless aesthetic.
I think they would go out of style as in become unpopular but never in an outdated way
I like this new way of editing. It was worth the wait and helps you stand out from others in your industry
Hey great content as usual. I notice pretty much of the “quiet luxury” pieces are geared towards temperate or colder climate. How about a video on quiet luxury for the tropics - yes, places with perpetually humid and hot climate. Hello from Singapore.
Linen and cotton are your foundation. Silk and lightweight wool if you can afford them. Always look for 100% natural fabric, more breathable than synthetics. Protect your skin from uv by covering in natural fabric. Wear wide brim hat like panama. Straw and paper hats if you can find them, no synthetics.
@@lc4n333 thank you for the pointers 💯
THIS VIDEO IS SOOO HELPFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BREAKING DOWN EACH POINT SO WELL.
Thank you Tim for emphasizing the "trend" aspect of this not so quiet fashion trend. It's all fabricated by the industry to boost sales and overconsumption because people always follow trends to define their personal style. In the end, I believe fast fashion machine is the one who get most benefit because general public absolutely can't access luxury brand. Fast fashion and quite luxury are match made in heaven to bring catastrophe to our environment and we are going to move on into the next fashion trend anytime soon.
this video was literally perfect like what a gem
I’d add 2 more things to this video: sustainability & saving time. People are getting busy / don’t want to waste their time / having a headache on thinking what to wear & constantly searching to buy new stuff. You know, you’ve got a few quality pieces which you can combine/ play with & also, they’d last longer.
We never give much thought to this, it's just how we were raised. Thank you for your content and opinions. Cheers
Its classic, timeless not just a trend...Quiet confidence is a style.
This content was presented well. Informative and succinct.
Excellent video!
this style, ironically, is easier on the wallet(in the long run) and forces you to look for quality and be creative; instead of just buying products to show off.
(In the cases where the luxury brands are known for good quality and not just their brand)
I don’t know how easy on the wallet will it be to constantly be going in and out of dry cleaners tho plus £2 000 for a sweater in price per wear, it would probably have to be like your daily for a couple years
“Really” quiet luxury cost the same or even more than tier 2~1 luxury brands. Not remotely affordable.
@@memelord3348 - you can usually throw everything in the washing machine. Use the hand wash program and a wool/silk detergent (without enzymes). I've washed all my "dry clean only" silks and cashmeres in the machine for years. It's up to you if you want to live dangerously though. 🙃
Also emulating the old money people is not a good mindset, they are gatekeeping their social circle, basically live in different world. It is not affordable to not only dress like them but also participate in their expensive activities.
I started to build my wardrobe following this aesthetic mostly by thrifting. I just aspire to dress like common men back in the day. Suits, ties, hat, add a bit of color and pattern. Even the current fits for quiet luxury look too bland for me, too monochromatic and no individuality. Look at the historical imagery in early to mid 20th century, you will understand the different vibe compare to today quiet luxury fits.
Next level production and video editing here, so refreshing
Thank you 🙏
After this banger of a video, we need more fashion mini Documentaries
I appreciate the use of fonts in your video very much. Thanks for the care in your content.
I love the minimalist approach to clothing. Less is more. Good quality natural fabrics breathe better and are healthier. I rather have one good quality 100% wool jacket than 10 polyester ones. I have never liked logos plastered everywhere it looks tacky and a cry for attention because you are not comfortable in your own skin. Over the top colour or print can also become boring fast. But with life getting busier it's just nice to keep things simpler.
Gosh, fav video of the year! It has really good information, some tips, an example with the sweater (which looks incredible 🥺💕) and some very good conclusions. Love these videos, Tim!!
Glad to see someone in the fashion community who isn't denouncing 'Quiet Luxury'. You have a very practical and balanced view on it. I honestly don't understand why so many fashion youtubers hate on it, when all it is is high quality fitted clothing.
the most BASED video on the entire channel. thank you Tim
People aren’t sick of people flaunting, they just want to flaunt in a new way.
Honestly, all of this stuff gets lost on the likes of me, who neither pays attention to, nor care, about clothes. If I can rule the world as God Emperor of the Known Universe, I'd just make everyone always go naked. Screw clothes. They're a bother and a chore to clean, fold up, and don't even get me started on weggies and having to do laundry. Oh and the moth balls. At best we go Ancient Greek and wrap a sheet around the body and secure it with pins. You get jackets in winter. lol.
I actually really enjoy this style, as it really is something I always really adored; that it is now becoming more attention right when I decided to get more into fashion, is but a nice coincidence, as it probably will make it easier to get these looks and to get advice on how to achieve them.
Also it makes for some damn good looking people~
Since ive gotten alot of piecies from Uniqlo my average style also leans towards the "old money" looks. They defintely have some good piecies like cable knit sweater , certain polos etc
The research, writing, production and presentation quality of this video is quiet luxury level for YT vids. Well done. New subscriber now.
I thrifted 4 pairs of Loro Piana pants just before this whole aesthetic started trending. Truly some of the nicest pants I've ever owned and I probably don't deserve them lol
Where did you thrift them from?
@@yajurphullera9396 my local goodwill in a rich neighborhood 😅
No one delivers like Tim!!!! What a video❤
Would love to see you create a budget friendly old money outfits.
2nd hand!
loved the way u really gave us a deep idea about its pros and cos and how this trend works.... i agree with the quote u said is that quiet luxury existed forever.. nice dude.. keep up buddy...
the beauty of Quiet luxury is, you can wear every year, bcs it's timeless and has a high quality
Really enjoyed this. As a fellow content creator, I have some constructive feedback. (Only meant to help you improve). The bass in your mic is a bit hard to listen to. I would go into the audio EQ and simply bring down the low frequencies a bit to get rid of the harsh bass when you’re speaking. Cheers!
Great video. But I think you could have gone into more detail about the differences between quiet luxury and stealth wealth. Because as far as I understand, the latter is not just a synonym for quiet luxury. It rather describes a style that can be found on crazy-rich people like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg, that wear basic off-the-rack clothing in order to appear more down to earth and to "hide" their wealth. Whilst quiet luxury is about showing off your knowledge about the "right" brands to wear and of course your wealth, but only to those who know as well (as you pointed out in the video).
Tim, this video is next level! Amazing job!!
Beautiful and elegant; however, over time it becomes boring and lacks creativity. Same goes for decor. I am ready for bright colors, variety and joy! Still kept my basic classic clothing pieces and somewhat minimalist “chic” decor but ready for so much more in the way of texture and color. I’m just bored with beige, camel, grey, navy, white and black.
I love the minimalism. I like your wise advice.
This generation isn't tired of the flex culture, its just become a lot less attainable for many.
But to be honest, did you at any point, thought of buying a supreme branded anything or rather "meh" hublot watches? Any thoughts on Nike fleece? I'd say let them outcast themselves in overpriced insecurity. After all, the fact that you can recreate almost anything on the budget, sometimes even transforming it into something better or more personalized says a lot more as both a fashion statement and points for personalization for yourself.
@@SmellYaLattera man of watches culture i see
@@SmellYaLatter Never bought Supreme over retail, never bought a tech fleece.
Flex culture is tacky af
People love saying this generation, but which one exactly? Millennials or Gen Z? Millennials like my self are in our mid to late 30’s, and most doesn’t care about fashion at that age/stage in their lives. Too busy being parents.
This is best video I guess youve made Mr. Tim since. This was explained well and in balanced.
After watching this video i can definitely say that "Dressing well doesn't have to be complicated"
very helpful in understanding the quiet luxury look of today, I gained a lot of knowledge as I am trending in this direction for my wardrobe.
Always hated logo culture, something i grew out of by 16. While not necessarily luxury, Club Monaco has been a staple in my wardrobe for the simple classic staples that have lasted me years, some over a decade.
I love CM too I wish they would get more love in social media.
@@icyglam1895 my guess is that they don't play the social media game.
Tim dessaint with a video essay??? I’m all in.
((Dampen the audio and remove the slight echo for these types of vids. It’s not bad but I think the room audio works better in other vids))
More vids like these please ty
Quiet luxury has never been a "trend" for those into fashion, it is the norm. Trend chasrs are "discovering" something classy people have known for decades.
But I agree with the notion that tailoring of cheaper clothes is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than expensive brands that are poorly fitting.
I'm happy to see the change!!!😃
The rise of this trend is because kids today are worried about looking rich instead of getting rich. Dressing like an old money while living with a paycheck in a one bedroom studio and driving a $40k car is super hilarious.
😂😂 hillarious how old doomers assume everything is wrong today.
What about the proverty of the 1900s. Far more people are becoming rich now that that time.
And didn't people always wanted to look wealthier since the industrial revoltution? Atleast now the rich folks won't humiliate the poor.
Great video!! In just a short amount of time I learned about Old Money and Quiet Luxury. I liked this style before I knew how to call it, nice to be able to name it now haha.
Every crash /collapse/inflation or a recession offers an equal market opportunity if you are well prepared and knowledgeable. I've seen people accumulate up to $800,000 during crises and even pull it off with ease in a bad economy. Without a doubt, the bubble or crash has made someone extremely wealthy.
A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.
Jenny Pamogas Canaya. You can easily look her up, she has years of financiaI market experience.
Great work! You have improved your editing skills and have some new tattoos. Keep it up!
I think two significant mindsets for quiet luxury is buying for life and being tailored. When choosing quiet luxury items it's all about choosing pieces that are timeless and durable (buy it for life), so fast fashion items, although has the "look" of quiet luxury and will be against the entire thing. Another thing about it is being tailored to your body type. A lot of wealthy people, regardless of their body type, tend to have their clothes fit them well and their silhouettes. And that's mostly because most of their clothing are tailored fit for them.
Tim this was fantastic! Totally agree with the bro Nate - wouldn't doubt seeing you direct a Fashion Documentary on Netflix soon!
Thank you Brendan! Hopefully one day 🤞
Ngl I like the exact opposite of this style😅😬. I like more complex fashion. I like the artistry that goes into clothes, the patterns and textures, the colors and shapes…etc. I especially love embroidery. I don’t buy as much clothes as other people because of that. I look for the quality over the quantity. I like clothes that are interesting to look at which some people might think is excessive and flashy.
me too. while I do like a good white tee, or a pair of straight leg jeans, I also like clothes with color, texture, shape, movement, etc. you should just do you! a year from now, the culture will have moved on to the next zippily named trend .
LUXURY IS A STATE OF MIND
This video was so well produced. This video, itself, was a quiet luxury experience
To trendy people, I want to say one thing: please stop wearing sneakers with suits. Thank you. You may continue on with your lives now.
😂
100%.
Imagine seeing someone wearing flip-flops with a nice suit, lol.
I know its so tacky
Too bad…
maybe around 10 yrs ago or so, i bought a cashmere zip-up hoodie a while back, it might've actually been J. Crew, or similar-type brand which cost me maybe a little over a$100 at the time because it was on sale. It was an amazing zip-up hoodie in fit and comfort. Eventually, it began to pill excessively after a few years of ownership, so i think it actually held up better than expected because i didn't even baby it. Was it the most expensive hoodie i ever bought? Yup, but it held up well, and didn't cost nearly as much as the other luxury brands. But now, i don't even bother with cashmere because merino wool is just a lot easier to maintain and is a lot cheaper
"Quiet Luxury" is nothing more than how people of good taste used to dress a few decades ago, but it's a style that was only now discovered by poor young people in their 20s lol
quiet fashion is type of the slow fashion. this is the reason why theyre so timeless.
Advertising your style as quiet luxury paradoxically creates the exact opposite effect. It makes you look low class because you're signaling too much. I enjoy many fashion subgenres and varieties, but quiet luxury seems like a waste of time and money. It's just country club attire with a bit of hype behind it.
Exactly lol plus im just a regular dude and im not even white and im gen z. Im not some dude whose last name is rothschild or something so old money / quiet luxury is not for me
It's true that if everyone decided that a camel coat is the thing to have it would automatically be neither quiet nor luxurious. Still if you isolate the pieces on its own, a nice suit or a well made sweater has their intrinsic value (good for formal occasions, keeps you warm, probably a bit more durable) but as Tim says it would need to fit into your lifestyle as well (if you don't need a suit - and I'm not talking about a sport jacket and chinos - to go to work in then you probably wouldn't make much use of it).
@@deedumeday518 Let me guess... you're dark skinned and "from da streetz, boi"?
Interesting analysis. One additional factor you might want to consider is that a lot of those who have money, in the West especially, are ageing - they are reaching or are already above 40. Usually, adopting a more sensible and timeless aesthetic is part of the process. Your photo of David Beckham is a good example.
this video is so good and ive seen a lot of videos from you
Fantastic video as usual Tim! You are genuine with your views and it shines through!
one of the best fashion creator i gonna say
Yo that was such a nice video! Congrats bro, you are doing awesome!
More than worth the wait!
This is insane quality, nice work Tim!!
Loved this video, thank you Tim