Act 2 of the musical is sometimes criticized for going too rapidly and being essentially a retelling of The Wizard of Oz from multiple perspectives. If they can expand on that scene, it may be enough to justify breaking the film in two.
yeah I'm pretty sure the 1st act is everything up until the main story of The Wizard of Oz starts and then the 2nd act is a reimaging of the events from the The Wizard of Oz.
@fday1964 Ooooor... They could have waited to start advertising, and release the 2 movies a month apart from each other so that way you wouldn't need to buy 2 movie tickets in the same month or sit through a 6 hour movie. That would also allow part 1 to be fresher in people's heads. Casual movie goers will forget about this movie and may not even go to see the second one if they don't remember the first. Idk I'm not a marketing or business expert, but I feel like it would give people something to look forward to in the short term and make more money by retaining audience attention.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Totally valid to not like they split into part 1 and part 2 but I think once they were committed to keeping every song, it was truly the only way. 1:1 putting a musical into a movie just can’t work. You need more establishing shots, musical book scenes are always so short and need to be buffed out in a movie to not feel rushed. Especially since criticism of the wicked stage show is that the book scenes are already rushed as it is in Act 2.
The movie tells you it's a Part 1 at the start of the movie. So you accept the fact that there's going to be another movie as you watch this movie. By the end, you'll enjoy it as a part one and be hyped for the next part.
@@800Ms-k6n They didn’t know if it would have a sequel and tbh it was part 1 of like 16. Wayyyyy different than something based off a play where at intermission they say “Sike! Time to go home now” And yes I used sike in 2024
When I learned years ago they were splitting this into two movies I was the biggest critic of that, but I saw it last night and it worked. That was one of the best musical adaptations in a long time and it never felt padded
This was a movie that catered itself to being two parts tbh. The first and second acts of the broadway show are very distinct with major time jumps, separating them out makes more sense in giving the plot and characters more depth while letting the notoriously fast paced 2nd act slow down a bit, not feeling a need to rush over all the plot points in The Wizard of Oz, when the 2nd act primarily takes place
It's the light, because Hollywood fired all their good light technicians when CG came in. Now they are trying to hire them back, but they are either retired or have changed vocation.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 Ok so you know nothing about film or you messed up what CG means or I don't know what you mean by CG. When you use CG (computer graphics is what I am assuming) you REQUIRE high quality lighting and lighting reference so you can do proper matching of your shaders and CG lighting, etc.
@@eduardomartin8510Lighting in a computer program is vastly different from practical lighting. Maybe he meant the old school cinamatographers who mastered real set lighting
I feel like they definitely needed to make it 2 parts, the pacing and structure of a musical is much different than a movie, if they decided to adapt the 2.5 hour musical into a 2.5 hour movie it would have felt EXTREMELY rushed, considering how much goes on in the musical, a 2 part movie was definitely the way to go.
I'm not an Ariana Grande fan in the slightest, but I thought she was fantastic in this movie. Great cast performances and choreography. Only thing I wasn't a fan of was the color grading/lighting during several scenes.
@@themanstan0785 because there are a lot of people who are not fans of her and are on the fence about seeing this movie because of her casting. The fact that her performance is so good that non-fans can easily get past that should be noted.
People whining about the movie being split into two parts probably haven't seen the play or read the book. The movie ends exactly where the play's intermission starts. Everything in this movie followed its source material pretty well. If you liked the play, you'll probably love this movie. It's essentially the play with a $145M budget.
I gasped when I saw “Part 1” (mind you I haven’t been following much promo) but my skepticism wore off because the intro set the story up quite nicely. Overall, I enjoyed it.
The only reason I don't get it is because I've no idea what they could possibly do for another 2 and a half hours, unless it's just a retelling of the classic story with Dorothy.
@@LuznoLindo Act 2 of the musical is quite rushed. And in theatre it works because the suspention of disbelief is greater but in a movie I think a lot of the elements would come off as out of nowhere. So I think they will develop the relationships and characters more.
@@LuznoLindo There's soooo much story left. Without ruining anything. Act One / Movie One is the characters in college Act Two/ Movie Two is the characters in their adult lives and how they become the iconic Wizard of Oz characters we all love. It's soo much left to tell.
Jon M. Chu's last two feature movies were Crazy Rich Asians and In The Heights. These two alone convinced me enough that Wicked has every opportunity to be great in his directing hands. If James Wan was born to make horror movies, Chu was born to make musicals
And all of this was wasted on me when Cynthia Erivo opened her mouth and talked shit about that FAN who made a FAN POSTER. FAFO If you mess with the people who buy your tickets, you're gonna find out. I hope this movie BOMBS.
Here's a shocker for those who don't know, Ariana Grande was an actor before she made music. If she's a standout in this, you shouldn't really be all that surprised. She was effing great on the show Victorious.
You’re definitely right in that us theater geeks know where the story is going and it’s definitely worth it. I kind of wish it were one movie too, but the payoff is great.
For me, yes and no. It could be a complete story but the movie tells you at the start and reminds you in the end that its not complete. If they intend casual viewers to see the sequel, they need it to be a hit now so they can remind the audience later. Im curious now what the marketing title will be for the sequel.
I don't really see the point in it when this is a foregone conclusion. No matter how much you humanize her, the Wicked Witch of the West is ultimately going to perish via bucket of water.
This was my first time experiencing Wicked in any form. I've heard good things about it, I've heard most of the song but I never able to see the whole production so with this movie being anticipated for over 20 years and turned out to be fantastic, I'm forever grateful to all the cast and crew for their incredible hardwork. Thank you for bringing Wicked to the whole world in the big screen ❤️
Agreed with everything here except the part one/part two breakup. Being an adaptation from Broadway, Broadway plays always have an intermission halfway through. Without expecting that, I can understand why this would be foreign and potentially disappointing. After the broadway intermission, that takes usually 15 minutes or so, you can continue the story and finish it by the end of the night. We can’t do that here until the second portion is released. Go see it, as a Broadway fan, I really appreciated this film.
They wanted a faithful adaptation at the risk of not knowing if casual fans like me would be on board just watching half of the story now. Would I be back a year later to see where this goes? Probably yes but for the rest, only a huge box office hit would bring them back for the sequel. So hopefully, the same magic it had in the stage for 20 years would rub off in the movie.
I love the wizard of Oz, it's a true cultural classic imo, saying that I'm not really interested in watching this movie, still wanted to see Jeremy's take anyways.
I recently read the book not having seen the play thinking the play and book would be similar…..wrong…..the book is WAAAYYY too adult and not plot heavy at all. Super weird because I’d read the first 7 Oz books and they were all kids books. Wicked got dark extremely quick. I hear the play is amazing tho. This movie looks good.
I understand it’s a musical and fans are excited,but me being a neutral wanted to see this as a film. People at my theater took this opportunity for a sing along karaoke and made the film unbearable and made it seem longer than what it was. Don’t be that person.
Musical or not, it sounds like people have forgotten movie etiquette. If you wanna sing along, go do it at home, not in a room where other people paid for their tickets.
@@eee9266 I know it won't but I am tired if it ruining big IPs. If it were once in awhile thats one thing. But every movie now has to have diversity regardless if its needed. Some movies now how to do it well like Top Gun Maverick. This however is too in your face. Heres the black heres the fat heres the gay heres the Asian
@@benv7933its a great choice to make it into two parts or else it would be so rush, glinda and elpahaba friendship was so rush in the musical, in the movie it was not, they includes all the songs in the musicals which most of them 7 minutes+ each songs. its not just a money grabing thing, they did the book and the musical justice
People are in the comments saying this is common knowledge. The title of this video is the first time I heard it! And I'm so glad, because now I know to wait and see whether or not part 2 is any good.
This movie is really the act one of the play bit by bit but the songs are more well realized and dynamic. The only real padding or expansion per say it's Elphaba's childhood which are very short scenes, the Madam Morrible's spell lessons which are also very short and the subplot of the animals is expanded upon and given much needed time on top of new scenes entirely. I think the animals subplot will take center stage in the second movie because the play somewhat overlook it in act II but it's a big part of the book and I think they'll bring proper closure in movie part II. But that's pretty much it.
The amount of people commenting.. "I know nothing about the book or the musical and I haven't seen the movie yet.. but ,It doesn't need to be 2 parts"... is crazy to me. The concept that a person can know nothing at all about a topic but still feel they can have , and post an opinion on what the topic should or shouldn't be... is.. astounding to me. That's like me saying.. "I've never seen a basketball game and know nothing about the sport... but I heard they have some net just hanging in the air. They shouldn't need a net". Having an opinion on something you know nothing about... is... astonishing. And yet... so many people seem to do just that. Why not save your opinion and comment for once you've seen the movie... or musical.. or read the book? Then you'll have some substantial knowledge to give merit to your thoughts... but I guess these are the same people saying "I didn't know it was 2 parts" even though they made a huge announcement about it over a year ago...I guess the saying is true.. most people don't think.. they just talk. Or in this case.. post/ comment. 🤔🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️😂😅😅
This ^^^ This movie was announced as two movies. It's always been two movies. It seems like people watch trailers for movies that they might want to see and then that's all. They're not like oh there's this thing called the internet, let me look this upcoming movie up, because I feel like you had to read about wicked for less than 5 minutes to figure out it was two movies. For me like I love wicked, I saw it in 2003, and most of the memorable stuff musically is in Act 1, which tells you that Act 2 needs more love than to just be crammed into a film with act 1
I'll never understand the hate musicals get, especially when it's live. It's very impressive what can be done, and from what I've heard, this is pretty damn good. Edit: Yeah, the movie basically ends where Act I of the musical does so your opinions are valid
Musicals are like pizza's. People who love them LOVE THEM A LOT ..... people who hate them HATE THEM A LOT. It's not something you can understand (like taste), it's something you accept as a fact of humanity.
I absolutely adore musicals when they're executed it properly. Then again, music is very hard to pleased everyone and so is storytelling so it's a choice whether you like the story to be present it in a musical way or not
I was very skeptical about Ariana Grande when she was casted as Glinda knowing that she has a huge shoes from Kristin Chenoweth to fill. After seeing the movie? Damn it, somebody give her a freaking Oscar! So happy that Ariana convinced me that she was the Glinda that the movie deserves 🙌
Haven't seen it yet but the runtime does concern me. They took a 2 hour musical and stretched it to 2 2.5 hour movies. Also 100% agree about Return to Oz. It gave my little sister nightmares for months...
@BB-ed4om and the biggest critique the musical got is that it felt rushed.. it skipped over so much of the story. The book is really dense and tells over 40 years worth of a story. The book honestly should have been 2 books. There's no way they could have told the whole story in one movie and do it justice.
The musical was 2 hrs and 45 minutes or so. And there's a lot of setup that needs to be done in a film that doesn't need to be done in a stage musical.
@Cmmdirects82 the musical is not a direct adaptation of the book. The first section is covered in the opening number. The musical is mostly sections 2 and 3 with a little bit of 4. The central love triangle of the musical does not exist in the book.
My moms excited about it! She and I went to a joint event back in 2016 where the same venue had both a comic con and the stage show of this play. Granted it didnt last as long but our 2 hour car ride home gave us both something to talk about.
Act 2 of the musical is usually criticized for moving too quickly and just generally being a quick retelling of The Wizard of Oz but from different perspectives. If they can flesh that part out more it could justify splitting the movie in 2.
Jeremy is the absolute best or at worst my favorite movie reviewer. He's so polished and yet fun. He seems to be making it up as he goes sorta like Indiana Jones. Always looking forward to his review. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas 🎄 Jeremy...oh yeah can't wait to see WICKED 😂
Just walked out of the cinema. It's long, defying gravity is almost 20mins on its own as a sequence but the effects at the end is worth it, I took my girls and...... I loved it.
I had a really fun time and felt like the songs hit the right notes. Sets up part 2 for hopefully greater payoffs, I really wish going into it we knew it was gonna be a 2-parter. Cynthia and Ariana really take the cake!
@@Rosannasfriend lol imagine thinking someone needs a therapist cos they don’t want to watch a pissy broadway star be rewarded for bad behavior. Stop standing up for bad rich people who don’t care if you live or d*e
I never seen the musical, but I loved every minute of this movie. They leads stole the spotlight every time they're on. And the songs, they're earworm worthy. Also, the original Broadway cast does make a cameo in the Emerald City. And I kind of knew this would be a 2 parter, and I didn't really mind that.
I was NOT expecting this review from you! Wow. Musicals are one of my fav genres in film so I watch A LOT of old musicals since they make less & less of them with each passing decade since the 1970's. Then after seeing La La Land in 2016 I said I would never again trust Hollywood to make a real musical since they did such a great job at advertising the most unmusical musical I've ever seen as a big romantic musical. Then a year later comes The Greatest Showman which IMO is one of the GREATEST musicals of all time! Right up there with The Sound of Music & Singing in the Rain. I didn't have high hopes for Wicked especially with who they chose as the 2 main stars which IMO are nowhere near as talented as Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth, but after this review I will give it a try. Thanks Jeremy! :)
Not too surprised this turned out to be good, but the actress’s meltdown over a fan edit of the poster definitely soured it for me. Not that I was very interested in the IP to begin with, so pass.
Social media was a mistake, not only because of Erivo's nasty overreaction to some harmless fan art, but also bc some ppl will grossly overreact to Erivo's one human error & punish an entire movie for it. To both parties, it's not that deep.
For me it was the thought process and disgusting world view revealed in the meltdown. The whole thing was a dog whistle to tell the normal people she doesn’t want their money.
I watched Wicked on Broadway back in high school and I remember it being great… though that was a long time ago so I don’t remember why I thought it was great, but I remember loving it so I look forward to getting round to this film (though the internet drama with the Elphaba actress made me a bit hesitant) but I’m with Jeremy on Return to Oz. I love the childhood horror movie that we got and the fact that that’s what the entire book series is only makes me more annoyed that nobody’s been allowed to do another book-accurate adaptation since.
I actually look forward to this movie. I think the trailers look great and I have not seen the play, but have heard some of the music like Defying Gravity which is a banger, and am extra curious now.
They're doing a sing along showing of it in December I believe. So people need to keep it there. The people ranting about gatekeeping should remember what etiquette is. As a big fan of the musical having seen it on Broadway people should know that just like when you go to live theatre you should respect the medium. If you want to sing along come back when they do that, wait until it's at home, or listen to the soundtrack. Don't ruin it for others. Let them experience the magic.
It's not as bad as most. It's closer to Empire Strikes Back than Deathly Hallows pt 1. I think I liked the pacing better than Dune 1 though that could just be because I didn't know the story by heart. It never drags, and I thought it felt shorter than it was. Still, it's harming the storytelling imo, because the high concept stuff that made me as a general media nerd really take notice is at the end of the play. Then again, one could say the same for Empire and Jedi. The main thing the split means is that they can avoid cutting anything while letting scenes breathe, and without leaning on some of the storytelling conventions used to abbreviate scenes for pacing in stage plays. And they inserted an extra fan service scene with the actors who first played the two witches, but that 5 minutes and supplies some backstory and worldbuilding.
Oh, Jeremy! You're missing out. It's my top 2 all-time favorite Broadway musical ever, 2nd only to _Rent_ . I've also read the book, which is so much darker than the musical that was adopted from it. All the songs are catchy, IMO. "Defying Gravity," "For Good," and "As Long As You're Mine" are my faves.
Five hundred twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes Five hundred twenty-five thousand moments so dear Five hundred twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes How do you measure, measure a year? You got seasons of love stuck in my head again.
@@Allmightyimortal LOL! Don't even get me started on Rent. I love that musical so much, I saw 3 or 4 versions of it. But the OG cast is still the best. Cheers!
I think I’d rather be eviscerated than watch this. I’ve long hated the trope of re-imagining female villains as misunderstood anti-heroes (Maleficent, Cruella, Evil-Lyn) and this play is essentially what created it. But hey, power to y’all that enjoy it.
I do love the Wizard Of Oz movie 1939. But my all time favorite musical movie is the 1965 classic The Sound Of Music. One of the best musicals ever in movie history. My parents and I have no interest in watching anything coming from Hollywood anymore. Right now the real and actual entertainment and fun is movies made by Japan, South Korea, Angel Studios, other Indie movie companies, or we will just be picking and choosing on which movies that we will be watching.
He’s been sponsored by Displate before and we got one because of it. It’s so worth it. I love posters but protecting the flimsy paper or having to pay to get them framed is so annoying.
Had to stop watching the second you said Blood Omen was available on psn. Got it now. Thank you, sir! I finished your review. As always, great content!
@LuznoLindo Well, yeah, of course but I had no idea it was based on an original musical. I just thought it was another one of the many half-assed spin-offs Hollywood has attempted to profit off of.
Return to Oz is💯 my favorite Oz movie. It combines two of my favorite Oz books into a single creepy movie without needing to be a musical. And the amazing Fairuza Balk as Dorothy was perfection,
Director Jon M. Chu is no stranger to musicals. With each film installment, he is honing his music and movie-making craft. From Justin Bieber: Never Say Never to Crazy Rich Asians, he may become a new legend as a musical director.
@williammccormick984 Chu has made more films than those two. Most of his works explore music and dance, from the TV series Legions of Extraordinary Dancers (LXD) to the Step Up film series. Before Wicked, he also worked on another stage adaptation, In The Heights. His works have garnered significant acclaim, reviews, and even box office which is all that truly matters.
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Act 2 of the musical is sometimes criticized for going too rapidly and being essentially a retelling of The Wizard of Oz from multiple perspectives. If they can expand on that scene, it may be enough to justify breaking the film in two.
Knowing nothing about the play nor this movie per se, my first thought was "the FUCK you mean part ONE?!"
The original play is almost 3 hours. The movie is also about 3 hours. How are they gonna fit an entire second play??
@@AHersheyHere yes that’s what I said
The movie ends at the plays intermission so, there is definitely enough for a full second movie.
yeah I'm pretty sure the 1st act is everything up until the main story of The Wizard of Oz starts and then the 2nd act is a reimaging of the events from the The Wizard of Oz.
@@SlickA10Homepage There wasn't two acts in the original play? I hear the second movie it's about the second act.
don't cover her eyes on a poster whatever you do.
John Locke: "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO!"
@@JasonTheOneAndOnly should try covering her face
Don't mess with the Wicked Witch of the West.
Goes to show just how LITTLE research she did for this role. Lazy and egomaniacal
That's okay, I'll cover her whole face instead.
Or change her face to Shrek with AI!
Yeah. Part one is Act one of the Musical. Defying Gravity leads into intermission. The thing is, intermission usually isn't a year long.... 😅
...well, it's either that or sit through a six hour movie.😮
@fday1964 Ooooor... They could have waited to start advertising, and release the 2 movies a month apart from each other so that way you wouldn't need to buy 2 movie tickets in the same month or sit through a 6 hour movie. That would also allow part 1 to be fresher in people's heads. Casual movie goers will forget about this movie and may not even go to see the second one if they don't remember the first. Idk I'm not a marketing or business expert, but I feel like it would give people something to look forward to in the short term and make more money by retaining audience attention.
@@LexrytXIV .. clearly stated that you're not a marketing expert. 🙄
@@fday1964 I'm sorry it's such a terrible idea. Didn't know throwing out a suggestion was a crime.
@@LexrytXIV I'm worried this comment thread iis more entertaining than the movie
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Totally valid to not like they split into part 1 and part 2 but I think once they were committed to keeping every song, it was truly the only way. 1:1 putting a musical into a movie just can’t work. You need more establishing shots, musical book scenes are always so short and need to be buffed out in a movie to not feel rushed. Especially since criticism of the wicked stage show is that the book scenes are already rushed as it is in Act 2.
I guess Joker didn't count as a musical lol
Hardly counts as a movie
joker 2 didn't count as a movie!
HUSH! We don’t talk about that one
I think he meant he enjoys one a year. He didn't enjoy Joker 2.
It wasn't advertised as one. You just get ambushed.
This biggest mistake is marketing this movie without letting people know it’s a two part movie. It’s going to piss a lot of people off.
Dune didn't marketed the movie as a Part 1 and it was still very successful and acclaimed by everyone
And miss out on those tricked audience members who already paid?
The movie tells you it's a Part 1 at the start of the movie. So you accept the fact that there's going to be another movie as you watch this movie. By the end, you'll enjoy it as a part one and be hyped for the next part.
@@800Ms-k6n They didn’t know if it would have a sequel and tbh it was part 1 of like 16. Wayyyyy different than something based off a play where at intermission they say “Sike! Time to go home now”
And yes I used sike in 2024
@@abbeyBominable123just because you don’t know , doesn’t mean it’s true
When I learned years ago they were splitting this into two movies I was the biggest critic of that, but I saw it last night and it worked. That was one of the best musical adaptations in a long time and it never felt padded
This was a movie that catered itself to being two parts tbh. The first and second acts of the broadway show are very distinct with major time jumps, separating them out makes more sense in giving the plot and characters more depth while letting the notoriously fast paced 2nd act slow down a bit, not feeling a need to rush over all the plot points in The Wizard of Oz, when the 2nd act primarily takes place
The one who color graded this movie should be fired though.
It's the light, because Hollywood fired all their good light technicians when CG came in. Now they are trying to hire them back, but they are either retired or have changed vocation.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 Ok so you know nothing about film or you messed up what CG means or I don't know what you mean by CG. When you use CG (computer graphics is what I am assuming) you REQUIRE high quality lighting and lighting reference so you can do proper matching of your shaders and CG lighting, etc.
right along with the person who hired these POS actors!
@@eduardomartin8510Lighting in a computer program is vastly different from practical lighting. Maybe he meant the old school cinamatographers who mastered real set lighting
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Watching jeremy jahn reviews for movies I'll never watch is TIGHT!!!
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I feel like they definitely needed to make it 2 parts, the pacing and structure of a musical is much different than a movie, if they decided to adapt the 2.5 hour musical into a 2.5 hour movie it would have felt EXTREMELY rushed, considering how much goes on in the musical, a 2 part movie was definitely the way to go.
Hard disagree. It's long enough to begin with. Most musicals are already needlessly padded.
I'm not an Ariana Grande fan in the slightest, but I thought she was fantastic in this movie. Great cast performances and choreography. Only thing I wasn't a fan of was the color grading/lighting during several scenes.
why did you have to clarify that you weren’t a fan. Your statement is just better without “i’m not a an Ariana Grande fan in the slightest”
It shows that they're not biased @@themanstan0785
She was a disney kid so she does know how to act
@@themanstan0785sssssh. Let people have opinions
@@themanstan0785 because there are a lot of people who are not fans of her and are on the fence about seeing this movie because of her casting. The fact that her performance is so good that non-fans can easily get past that should be noted.
"Snap!!! The Thanos Story"
Now that's maybe the only musical I could ever really get behind.
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Fiddler on the Roof is good
Played by Idris Elba
Made by StarKid productions 😁 The guys that did Twisted
You sound sped but ok
People whining about the movie being split into two parts probably haven't seen the play or read the book. The movie ends exactly where the play's intermission starts.
Everything in this movie followed its source material pretty well. If you liked the play, you'll probably love this movie. It's essentially the play with a $145M budget.
The “I didn’t know GUUUlenda” took me the hell out 😂
I gasped when I saw “Part 1” (mind you I haven’t been following much promo) but my skepticism wore off because the intro set the story up quite nicely. Overall, I enjoyed it.
The only reason I don't get it is because I've no idea what they could possibly do for another 2 and a half hours, unless it's just a retelling of the classic story with Dorothy.
@@LuznoLindo Act 2 of the musical is quite rushed. And in theatre it works because the suspention of disbelief is greater but in a movie I think a lot of the elements would come off as out of nowhere. So I think they will develop the relationships and characters more.
@@LuznoLindo
There's soooo much story left. Without ruining anything.
Act One / Movie One is the characters in college
Act Two/ Movie Two is the characters in their adult lives and how they become the iconic Wizard of Oz characters we all love. It's soo much left to tell.
Jon M. Chu's last two feature movies were Crazy Rich Asians and In The Heights. These two alone convinced me enough that Wicked has every opportunity to be great in his directing hands. If James Wan was born to make horror movies, Chu was born to make musicals
You wrote six comments in less than two minutes……
@@winnie5873 Who cares?
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In the heights the movie was pretty good but the original Broadway play was sooooo good
He did Step Up 2: The Streets, as well, which was so good. And for that reason alone I will see this movie.
Me before watching the video...." Is This Man Smiling!?"
I "might" check this out when Part Two comes out. But I'm passing on it for now.
You sound sped but ok
Exactly
It was better than expected
@@DeathsInversedid you assume it’ll be worse than it delivered?
@@redeem5858 no it's just not my kind of movie and I went with a girl I'm seeing and I ended up enjoying it.
Galinda is Wicked canon. She shortens it to Glinda upon officially becoming the Good Witch.
No she shortened it to Glinda in the film, long before she becomes a witch.
Didn’t she shorten her name to Glinda for Feyro, or whatever his name was?
She shortened her name after the murder of a goat professor that pronounced her name Glinda. She says "Ga-lin-da" the way Hermoine says "Le-vi-oh-sah"
Now onto the Penguin, the best show in the last 2 years.
I know there's no continuity, but imagine watching Oz: The Great and Powerful, Wicked 1&2, The Wizard of Oz, and Return to Oz all in one sitting.
You sound sped but ok
I did want to watch return to Oz after this movie
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Really looking forward to that Soul Reaver Remaster coming out next month!
They should do a show
Extra love to Amy Hennig!
@@dante6985 Always!
Cry out brothers, cry out! "Vae Victus!"
They never topped the first one. Man, that game rules
And all of this was wasted on me when Cynthia Erivo opened her mouth and talked shit about that FAN who made a FAN POSTER.
FAFO
If you mess with the people who buy your tickets, you're gonna find out. I hope this movie BOMBS.
JJ reviews are better than most movies..change my mind.
I agree
Always has been.
His word is final
You sound sped but ok
Then you're going to *love* Ryan George
Here's a shocker for those who don't know, Ariana Grande was an actor before she made music. If she's a standout in this, you shouldn't really be all that surprised. She was effing great on the show Victorious.
You’re definitely right in that us theater geeks know where the story is going and it’s definitely worth it. I kind of wish it were one movie too, but the payoff is great.
CCR - timeless music.
Surprisingly, I didn't mind that it was part 1. It still felt like a complete story which is how it should be done.
For me, yes and no. It could be a complete story but the movie tells you at the start and reminds you in the end that its not complete. If they intend casual viewers to see the sequel, they need it to be a hit now so they can remind the audience later. Im curious now what the marketing title will be for the sequel.
Patient zero for humanizing the villain would be Piers Anthony's For Love of Evil. A truly great and fun book to read that came out in the 80s.
I don't really see the point in it when this is a foregone conclusion. No matter how much you humanize her, the Wicked Witch of the West is ultimately going to perish via bucket of water.
Great review Jeremy!
Also I hope you haven't forgotten about The Penguin Review. 🤔
This was my first time experiencing Wicked in any form. I've heard good things about it, I've heard most of the song but I never able to see the whole production so with this movie being anticipated for over 20 years and turned out to be fantastic, I'm forever grateful to all the cast and crew for their incredible hardwork. Thank you for bringing Wicked to the whole world in the big screen ❤️
It’s online. The whole broadway show is easy to find.
Agreed with everything here except the part one/part two breakup. Being an adaptation from Broadway, Broadway plays always have an intermission halfway through. Without expecting that, I can understand why this would be foreign and potentially disappointing. After the broadway intermission, that takes usually 15 minutes or so, you can continue the story and finish it by the end of the night. We can’t do that here until the second portion is released.
Go see it, as a Broadway fan, I really appreciated this film.
LOL oh please, it's a money grab, nothing more.
They wanted a faithful adaptation at the risk of not knowing if casual fans like me would be on board just watching half of the story now. Would I be back a year later to see where this goes? Probably yes but for the rest, only a huge box office hit would bring them back for the sequel.
So hopefully, the same magic it had in the stage for 20 years would rub off in the movie.
I love the wizard of Oz, it's a true cultural classic imo, saying that I'm not really interested in watching this movie, still wanted to see Jeremy's take anyways.
The movie was better than I expected 👍🏻
no
The positive reviews of this movie by RUclips dudes who share similar views as myself makes me interested in this movie.
I recently read the book not having seen the play thinking the play and book would be similar…..wrong…..the book is WAAAYYY too adult and not plot heavy at all. Super weird because I’d read the first 7 Oz books and they were all kids books. Wicked got dark extremely quick. I hear the play is amazing tho. This movie looks good.
I understand it’s a musical and fans are excited,but me being a neutral wanted to see this as a film. People at my theater took this opportunity for a sing along karaoke and made the film unbearable and made it seem longer than what it was. Don’t be that person.
You dont get to gatekeep what people do only the management can
Jesus that sounds like a nightmare.
What did you expect? This movie was created for:
- fans of the book/broadway
- little girls
- grandmas
This movie was meant to be sang along to
Piece of advice, don’t watch musicals.
Musical or not, it sounds like people have forgotten movie etiquette. If you wanna sing along, go do it at home, not in a room where other people paid for their tickets.
Eat your heart out, Disney. Wicked captured the magic and whimsy Disney has long since abandoned.
With DEI. This movie is filled with it. Might as well be a Disney movie
@@hulkfan97It’s okay. The DEI monster can’t hurt you.
I didn't know Wicked isn't Disney film
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I know it won't but I am tired if it ruining big IPs. If it were once in awhile thats one thing. But every movie now has to have diversity regardless if its needed. Some movies now how to do it well like Top Gun Maverick. This however is too in your face. Heres the black heres the fat heres the gay heres the Asian
@@hulkfan97 Oh no, colored people in my movies how horrible
Return to Oz
Labyrinth
Never Ending Story
The trifecta of trippy kids dark fantasy
Dark Crystal, Time Bandits and The Dragonslayer.
Agreed
@@anubusx Dark Crystal was a little too dark.
PART 1?!?
Yeah Part 2 is Next Year
Gotta make ALL the money
@@benv7933its a great choice to make it into two parts or else it would be so rush, glinda and elpahaba friendship was so rush in the musical, in the movie it was not, they includes all the songs in the musicals which most of them 7 minutes+ each songs. its not just a money grabing thing, they did the book and the musical justice
People are in the comments saying this is common knowledge. The title of this video is the first time I heard it! And I'm so glad, because now I know to wait and see whether or not part 2 is any good.
Honestly, SUPER solid review. Excellent movie (never saw the broadway show, but definitely know the.. popular tunes). This is why I enjoy coming here.
Yet another tier review for a great movie, with the bonus of two shout outs to Legacy of Kain, and Return to Oz! Love it! 😆
As a HUGE fan of the musical, I had high expectations for this film. My expectations were surpassed!!! Sooooo good!!!!! Everyone see it!
This movie is really the act one of the play bit by bit but the songs are more well realized and dynamic. The only real padding or expansion per say it's Elphaba's childhood which are very short scenes, the Madam Morrible's spell lessons which are also very short and the subplot of the animals is expanded upon and given much needed time on top of new scenes entirely. I think the animals subplot will take center stage in the second movie because the play somewhat overlook it in act II but it's a big part of the book and I think they'll bring proper closure in movie part II. But that's pretty much it.
Thanks for this, JJ. We've been looking forward to your perspective, and you didn't let us down!
The amount of people commenting..
"I know nothing about the book or the musical and I haven't seen the movie yet.. but ,It doesn't need to be 2 parts"... is crazy to me. The concept that a person can know nothing at all about a topic but still feel they can have , and post an opinion on what the topic should or shouldn't be... is.. astounding to me.
That's like me saying.. "I've never seen a basketball game and know nothing about the sport... but I heard they have some net just hanging in the air. They shouldn't need a net".
Having an opinion on something you know nothing about... is... astonishing. And yet... so many people seem to do just that. Why not save your opinion and comment for once you've seen the movie... or musical.. or read the book? Then you'll have some substantial knowledge to give merit to your thoughts... but I guess these are the same people saying "I didn't know it was 2 parts" even though they made a huge announcement about it over a year ago...I guess the saying is true.. most people don't think.. they just talk. Or in this case.. post/ comment. 🤔🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️😂😅😅
This ^^^ This movie was announced as two movies. It's always been two movies. It seems like people watch trailers for movies that they might want to see and then that's all. They're not like oh there's this thing called the internet, let me look this upcoming movie up, because I feel like you had to read about wicked for less than 5 minutes to figure out it was two movies. For me like I love wicked, I saw it in 2003, and most of the memorable stuff musically is in Act 1, which tells you that Act 2 needs more love than to just be crammed into a film with act 1
I’m assuming part two is just straight up going to be the Wizard of Oz from Elphie’s perspective. Which is honestly honestly a legit great idea.
I've been really into Creedence lately, good shit indeed Jeremy
I saw it last night, it was amazing. Having it put onto 2 different makes sense..
I'll wait for the next. I'm part one out
When viewers who've never seen the musical, enjoy it, you know it's a good film then. 👍🏻
I'll never understand the hate musicals get, especially when it's live. It's very impressive what can be done, and from what I've heard, this is pretty damn good.
Edit: Yeah, the movie basically ends where Act I of the musical does so your opinions are valid
Musicals are like pizza's. People who love them LOVE THEM A LOT ..... people who hate them HATE THEM A LOT. It's not something you can understand (like taste), it's something you accept as a fact of humanity.
It’s cheesy and unnatural
I absolutely adore musicals when they're executed it properly. Then again, music is very hard to pleased everyone and so is storytelling so it's a choice whether you like the story to be present it in a musical way or not
@@ChadAV69 It really does depend on the musical, man
@@800Ms-k6n Taste .... not choice. It's just like food, either you like it or you don't. You don't have to think about it and make a choice.
Return to OZ is my childhood favorite! The ornament room is so trippy!
I was very skeptical about Ariana Grande when she was casted as Glinda knowing that she has a huge shoes from Kristin Chenoweth to fill. After seeing the movie? Damn it, somebody give her a freaking Oscar! So happy that Ariana convinced me that she was the Glinda that the movie deserves 🙌
My daughter wants to see it - I said I'm not paying money until I see this review! lol
Thanks, man, now I guess I have to see this. :(
The witch dies in the end.
But actually…
Ur a prick for that dude
Until they show you that she faked her death or something
Spoilers for the wizard oif ox the original Judy Garland film that was released in the 1930s
Tell me you’re not familiar with the musical’s story without telling me.
Saw it last night. It was awesome! So much talent.
Saw Glicked last night. Fun experience!
Haven't seen it yet but the runtime does concern me. They took a 2 hour musical and stretched it to 2 2.5 hour movies.
Also 100% agree about Return to Oz. It gave my little sister nightmares for months...
The musical was way longer than 2 hours when I went to see it. It was way too long imo.
@BB-ed4om and the biggest critique the musical got is that it felt rushed.. it skipped over so much of the story. The book is really dense and tells over 40 years worth of a story. The book honestly should have been 2 books. There's no way they could have told the whole story in one movie and do it justice.
The musical was 2 hrs and 45 minutes or so. And there's a lot of setup that needs to be done in a film that doesn't need to be done in a stage musical.
@noahkahan4364 you think there is enough "setup" to double the runtime of the musical???
@Cmmdirects82 the musical is not a direct adaptation of the book. The first section is covered in the opening number. The musical is mostly sections 2 and 3 with a little bit of 4. The central love triangle of the musical does not exist in the book.
My moms excited about it! She and I went to a joint event back in 2016 where the same venue had both a comic con and the stage show of this play. Granted it didnt last as long but our 2 hour car ride home gave us both something to talk about.
Act 2 of the musical is usually criticized for moving too quickly and just generally being a quick retelling of The Wizard of Oz but from different perspectives. If they can flesh that part out more it could justify splitting the movie in 2.
You sound sped but ok
Exactly!! Also, Wicked Part 1 still felt like a complete story to me which is how it should be done.
Wicked Part 3 incoming
Exactly, I think it was smart in the long run that way they can carefully fix the flaws in the second half of the play
stfu until you at least see Part 1
Jeremy is the absolute best or at worst my favorite movie reviewer. He's so polished and yet fun. He seems to be making it up as he goes sorta like Indiana Jones. Always looking forward to his review. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas 🎄 Jeremy...oh yeah can't wait to see WICKED 😂
Jeremy went wicked out to see wicked
Just walked out of the cinema. It's long, defying gravity is almost 20mins on its own as a sequence but the effects at the end is worth it, I took my girls and...... I loved it.
Wicked, yes, bit what going on with Legacy of Kain thing?!
I had a really fun time and felt like the songs hit the right notes. Sets up part 2 for hopefully greater payoffs, I really wish going into it we knew it was gonna be a 2-parter. Cynthia and Ariana really take the cake!
Cynthia Erivo's tantrum about the fan made poster lost any interest I had seeing this
Poor baby 😢
You can see a therapist about that
I was already zero interested, so it made me even less interested.
@@Rosannasfriend
lol imagine thinking someone needs a therapist cos they don’t want to watch a pissy broadway star be rewarded for bad behavior. Stop standing up for bad rich people who don’t care if you live or d*e
@@macethorns1168 the movies still good. How bout you don’t let controversy that doesn’t affect the quality of the movie itself determine your opinion
Right! Exactly! The number of times I have seen someone say something like that is astronomical.
Not authentic to the original character, they didnt use the toxic copper based make up smh
They should have.
How dare they cover her skin with green paint and her body with black robes? Totally oppressive
Lol nice
This literally slowly killed the actors from that film. They almost killed Judy with uppers and not letting her eat too.
@traviss9059 thank you, I think in order to understand this, one needs the prerequisite knowledge of this history that is well known.
I never seen the musical, but I loved every minute of this movie. They leads stole the spotlight every time they're on. And the songs, they're earworm worthy.
Also, the original Broadway cast does make a cameo in the Emerald City. And I kind of knew this would be a 2 parter, and I didn't really mind that.
Still waiting for your bioshock infinite spoiler review (day 892)
I was NOT expecting this review from you! Wow. Musicals are one of my fav genres in film so I watch A LOT of old musicals since they make less & less of them with each passing decade since the 1970's. Then after seeing La La Land in 2016 I said I would never again trust Hollywood to make a real musical since they did such a great job at advertising the most unmusical musical I've ever seen as a big romantic musical. Then a year later comes The Greatest Showman which IMO is one of the GREATEST musicals of all time! Right up there with The Sound of Music & Singing in the Rain. I didn't have high hopes for Wicked especially with who they chose as the 2 main stars which IMO are nowhere near as talented as Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth, but after this review I will give it a try. Thanks Jeremy! :)
Not too surprised this turned out to be good, but the actress’s meltdown over a fan edit of the poster definitely soured it for me. Not that I was very interested in the IP to begin with, so pass.
I'm passing too. Not fan of the cast in this
Social media was a mistake, not only because of Erivo's nasty overreaction to some harmless fan art, but also bc some ppl will grossly overreact to Erivo's one human error & punish an entire movie for it. To both parties, it's not that deep.
So why are you talking?
For me it was the thought process and disgusting world view revealed in the meltdown. The whole thing was a dog whistle to tell the normal people she doesn’t want their money.
@@oneoone "one human error" -- you say that like her thoughts, words, and actions aren't revealing of her character.
I watched Wicked on Broadway back in high school and I remember it being great… though that was a long time ago so I don’t remember why I thought it was great, but I remember loving it so I look forward to getting round to this film (though the internet drama with the Elphaba actress made me a bit hesitant) but I’m with Jeremy on Return to Oz. I love the childhood horror movie that we got and the fact that that’s what the entire book series is only makes me more annoyed that nobody’s been allowed to do another book-accurate adaptation since.
Did we know it was a Part 1? I didnt know that 😆
I've been waiting for a good black Friday deal on displate. Thank you sir.
1:17 to skip to review
Patience in a virtue, but, in this chance, I don't blame you. Especially when this video's already pretty short.
I actually look forward to this movie. I think the trailers look great and I have not seen the play, but have heard some of the music like Defying Gravity which is a banger, and am extra curious now.
4:21 Rebecca Ferguson's character shouldn't have been killed off in 'Dead Reckoning'.
That film sucked.
I 2nd that
@@summertyme5748it was very underwhelming after fallout. Rebecca cleary got killed just so the new girl can be the star, no good reason.
You sound sped but ok
I'm still thinking it's a fakeout. It must be
"Slow burn with high energy" Sounds like heartburn
2:28 I mean perfectly put
Not claiming anything on Jeremy's behalf, but I wonder if that was a nod to how Trump has been portrayed in the media lol
3:22 She played SHE-RA on SNL with Chris Pratt as HE-MAN and Tarren (?) Killem (?) as LION-O, prince of THUNDERA!!!
Victorious on Nickelodeon was her best work. She's a very good actress.
Bet. The end credit scene of the second movie you see a little girl with her black dog appear on screen 😮
@therealsun86 nope.. that's the middle. Well actually.. you already see her at the beginning of part one.
The film literally opens on The Wicked Witch's death echoing through Oz, thanks to the actions of Dorothy and her group.
They're doing a sing along showing of it in December I believe. So people need to keep it there. The people ranting about gatekeeping should remember what etiquette is. As a big fan of the musical having seen it on Broadway people should know that just like when you go to live theatre you should respect the medium. If you want to sing along come back when they do that, wait until it's at home, or listen to the soundtrack.
Don't ruin it for others. Let them experience the magic.
Part 1 movies are an automatic skip for me during their theatrical runs
It's not as bad as most. It's closer to Empire Strikes Back than Deathly Hallows pt 1. I think I liked the pacing better than Dune 1 though that could just be because I didn't know the story by heart. It never drags, and I thought it felt shorter than it was. Still, it's harming the storytelling imo, because the high concept stuff that made me as a general media nerd really take notice is at the end of the play. Then again, one could say the same for Empire and Jedi. The main thing the split means is that they can avoid cutting anything while letting scenes breathe, and without leaning on some of the storytelling conventions used to abbreviate scenes for pacing in stage plays. And they inserted an extra fan service scene with the actors who first played the two witches, but that 5 minutes and supplies some backstory and worldbuilding.
I was ok with IT. Needed both parts but 🤷🏻♂️
If the conclusion is guaranteed, I dont mind it.
Oh, Jeremy! You're missing out. It's my top 2 all-time favorite Broadway musical ever, 2nd only to _Rent_ . I've also read the book, which is so much darker than the musical that was adopted from it. All the songs are catchy, IMO. "Defying Gravity," "For Good," and "As Long As You're Mine" are my faves.
Five hundred twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes
Five hundred twenty-five thousand moments so dear
Five hundred twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes
How do you measure, measure a year?
You got seasons of love stuck in my head again.
@@Allmightyimortal LOL! Don't even get me started on Rent. I love that musical so much, I saw 3 or 4 versions of it. But the OG cast is still the best. Cheers!
I think I’d rather be eviscerated than watch this. I’ve long hated the trope of re-imagining female villains as misunderstood anti-heroes (Maleficent, Cruella, Evil-Lyn) and this play is essentially what created it.
But hey, power to y’all that enjoy it.
cynthia deserves the oscar..what a beautiful layered performance!
Glad to see Jeremy Jahns with a happy face with this film.
I do love the Wizard Of Oz movie 1939. But my all time favorite musical movie is the 1965 classic The Sound Of Music. One of the best musicals ever in movie history. My parents and I have no interest in watching anything coming from Hollywood anymore. Right now the real and actual entertainment and fun is movies made by Japan, South Korea, Angel Studios, other Indie movie companies, or we will just be picking and choosing on which movies that we will be watching.
First off, this sponsorship sounds really cool! Can’t wait to check it out. And second, thank you for giving Jonathan Bailey love!
He’s been sponsored by Displate before and we got one because of it. It’s so worth it. I love posters but protecting the flimsy paper or having to pay to get them framed is so annoying.
@ Oh glad to hear it!
Heck yeah shout out to Jeremy for that Legacy of Kain mention. Looking forward to playing the Soul Reaver collection soon.
For me anymore. Even when Part 1 is good. I have to wait until Part 2 to judge it entirely.
Because we all know how The Last Jedi fucked that all up.
Had to stop watching the second you said Blood Omen was available on psn. Got it now. Thank you, sir! I finished your review. As always, great content!
As a dude who has a mixed relationship with musicals and knew NOTHING about this, I saw this last night and shockingly loved it
You knew nothing about this? You never saw any of the slew of advertisements they made?
@LuznoLindo Well, yeah, of course but I had no idea it was based on an original musical. I just thought it was another one of the many half-assed spin-offs Hollywood has attempted to profit off of.
Return to Oz is💯 my favorite Oz movie. It combines two of my favorite Oz books into a single creepy movie without needing to be a musical. And the amazing Fairuza Balk as Dorothy was perfection,
Director Jon M. Chu is no stranger to musicals. With each film installment, he is honing his music and movie-making craft. From Justin Bieber: Never Say Never to Crazy Rich Asians, he may become a new legend as a musical director.
Crazy Rich Asians isn't a musical and Bieber? Really? Cho is useless.
@williammccormick984 Chu has made more films than those two. Most of his works explore music and dance, from the TV series Legions of Extraordinary Dancers (LXD) to the Step Up film series. Before Wicked, he also worked on another stage adaptation, In The Heights. His works have garnered significant acclaim, reviews, and even box office which is all that truly matters.