Can't Get a X100 VI - Still Worth Waiting For? Here's 11 Alternatives!
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
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00:00 Intro
01:48 Optical Finder
03:05 Compact or Not So Compact?
04:49 Point-and-Shoot or Full Manual
05:30 The $200 X100 VI Alternative
06:38 Autofocus
09:13 The Most Balanced Features
10:07 Top X100 VI Accessories
12:19 AD: Nisi Filter/Hood Kit Product Placement
16:04 Top X100 VI Accessories (cont.)
16:30 Video
17:50 Alternatives For Video
19:17 X100 VI - The Best?
20:26 Resale Values
21:30 Sensible Alternatives
23:02 Optical Finder Alternatives
24:02 Final Thoughts
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You guys are still the best in the genre, and by far the funniest
The top gear of photography, fantastic!
10:42. I like how Lok is diligently cleaning the lens with his finger.
It’s really a damn shame Sony refuses to bring out a new RX1 generation to take down Fujifilm
Loved the chat! so much better than some over the top videos made by others.
Lok, your cardigan and that yellow cup of tea are so lovely together! 🥰
The photo with the guy with a brown jacket and hat it’s a famous chef. He was part of Master Chef judges in the US.
Kai is the Harry Styles of photography. I love your content dude!
Sony could make a retro style camera and just call it a Minolta. I doubt they ever would though.
This. If they can make an A7CII then they can certainly make a compact full frame camera (that's better than the Rx1R..)
Retro would be very non-Sony. To me it looks, that retro is more followed by brands which have difficulties with their market success (their market share). Such as Nikon, Fuji, Pentax, or so. But Sony is extremely unlikely. Canon also. By today they are too much on a professional and utilitarian mindset, rather than aiming for pleasing old men, hipsters, or other nostalgicans, via an old-looking outer appearance, which also usually implies an non-ergonomic handling, for example via an (almost) non-existing grip.
@@tubularificationed if anything they should get zeiss to make a set of compact, low element count, and vintage looking lenses with modern sony af. maybe label it as a G lens
Never heard Fuji have difficulties with their market haha😂 you should research more mate
@@tubularificationed Having actual dials with discrete positions instead of burying basic functions 15 menus deep or on dials with no stops is far better ergonomics, not just retro.
Shoutout to the Nikon Coolpix A!!! I asked MPB and they said they were willing to pay me $0 for it, so I guess I will be keeping it!
Don't forget the Olympus Pen F!
Haha !! That was the most relaxed and ‘chumy’ video I’ve seen for a long time. Strangely endearing, yet still informative about the x100v1 and other poss alternative compacts.
U mentioned the Q3, but not the Q, which can now be bought, used, for about £2k / Anyway, thanks for a very relaxed & enjoyable review. 👍👍
I just got a GR IIIx and it’s incredible. So small and flies under the radar.
Can’t find one In stock. Where did you get yours? I’ve had one before and agree.
@@7743dustin No EVF is a deal breaker for me.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@7743dustinI found a camera shop on eBay (17th Street Photo) that had 5 brand new ones in stock.
I also had Adorama send me an email a couple weeks ago notifying of new stock.
I suggest starting with signing up for Adorama’s and B&H’s email notifications.
I got gr3x 10 months ago and I did 10 times more photo with is compairing to my ff mirrorless at the same period
Gr3x is unbeatably good for family and street photography
hate that camera. af too slow, screen too dark. absolutely ridiculous for the price point
24:38 a wild Xpan appeared, the best camera you didn't mentioned
Fabulous video. Very witty! Thanks.
I'd totally love to have a Fuji XV100 camera, but I live in Brazil and walking around with an expensive camera like that here isn't the brightest idea.
Sony RX100VA. Compact. Fast zoom. Full manual control. Retractable viewfinder. Good AF. Not too expensive. I have this camera with me all the time.
I have one. I do wish the sensor was bigger. But that's all, it's actually insanely good and not even "for the size". Of course the VA has the good lens: 24-70 equivalent with f2.8😊
@@0tispunkm3y3rAnd f1.8 at 24mm.
fantastic, I always carry it with me! I took exceptional photos
Kai, your photos are the Best!
I wanted an X100VI but didn't want to spend that much money, so I opted for a XT-30 and I'm really really happy with it :D
Go for the Ricoh GR iii(x) HDF… it’s a great little camera
After watching this video, I want the Ricoh GRIII X even more.
The X10 is awesome. I still have mine.
I've been a champion and user of the EOS M6 II with the 22 F/2. Small...pocketable, and when you're tired of the "35mm", you can still change lenses. Good MPx count and AF good as well. Look at getting one refurbished/used, and can be had for around $700 as a kit. Its my daily - along with the 11-22 ef-m and 56mm f/1.4 Sigma.
Biggest gripe I hear about the EOS M6 II is that the "mount" is dead. Well...more options than a fixed lens at least.
Same here. The system is dead but... really, I don't need more, just keeping it until breaks 😅 also 22mm 90% of time, and 11-22 walk around, and keeping 15-45 in some scenarios. There are also a lot of manual lenses 8-10-35-50-135 to play with... it is underrated, people just want the latest always
Love my X100 Six ❤🎉
A blue filter when Kai did the POV shot of Lok would have been a nice touch.
Both fellows looking spiffy today!
Sad truth is that the X100s aren't pocketable unless you're wearing a coat.
what a beautifull street photos you make Kai!
Hi Kai and Lok - strange that no one on youtube mentions the Leica CL in this area of compact, cool, APS-C cameras. Super sharp and very filmic quality. I noticed you had a couple of seconds of the Leica X2 but the CL is more modern and has the great 18mm TL pancake if you want super compact or of course loads of M mount options with adaptor. All the best
For easy carry around I like the Sony a6400 with the Sigma 17-50 f2.8. Very good autofocus and still light. If I really don’t feel like carrying much, I can take my Sony rx100va.
I had the X10 & X20. Wish they'd continue it.
The price for X100VI is ridiculous
Yet they sell all they can make, crapitalisim
If you can’t afford it everything is… maybe get a better job?
@@albertmeyer8983imagine thinking this was worth typing let alone posting. What an absolute dork.
Not as ridiculous as the X100v
@@albertmeyer8983 you must be tool if you can't use the menu & wireless photo transfer on the X100V
canon g10 - still have and love mine!
As with all of your videos, really enjoyed this one. I think it's good to remember how many alternatives there are 👍
My alternative is the Sony ZVE10 solid camera for Photography & Video without the heavy price tag.
I really hope these two are doing this thirty years from now.
The rounded soft shutter helps spread out the pressure so that you don’t shake your Leica when at a low shutter speed.
Revive the Coolpixes ,Powershots and cybershots
(Imagining them as the 3 pillar men awakening)
If only Panasonic made an LX100 Mark III. Versatility beast.
The best alternatives would either be the Ricoh GR III/IIIx, the Sony A7c/ A7cii or Fuji's own X-T5.
Sony would knock both Fujifilm and Ricoh out of the park if they add film simulations and focus more on photography on their next cameras. The rumors of a Kodak collab would be amazing.
I had x-t4, then replaced it with a7c + gr3x
They are all great but sony has worst auto WB and colours on presets inside camera
When you use a soft shutter release and a thumb grip. You hold the camera differently and dont press the shutter with the tip of your finger, but rather where your finger prints are. Or even lower on the flat underside of your finger. The shutter release makes it easier to press it down with minimal pressure like that. Causing less camera shake.
There is the Olympus Pen F (The digital one, not film) in the $200-$300 if you want interchangeable lens, IBIS, EVF and in a similar size to the X100. Just pair with an appropriate prime lens of your choice.
I think the original shutter button sits a bit too low for my hand posture. The added height with a separate shutter button is that it feels more comfortable to press it down, especially when you use a thumb grip.
The red button also fits to ok because the VI in the name is red. Also there are just a few thumb grips that fit my grip and in black they were sold out. So I have a red thumb grip, red shutter button and the red VI on it. Aesthetically it fits well together
You made me buy the GRiii 😊
8:20 That’s Joe from MasterChef 😱
Hahah also noticed that and had to see if I was completely off 😂
I went in the comments searching for this...did kai even noticed??
@@ghiekorg He probably still doesn’t know 😂
Wahaha I saw this and saw a post on isnta from Joe and he was wearing that hat with holes too
I bought a used Leica Q to replace my X100F, after handling the V. I stand by that choice.
Except the price...
the ricoh will still always be one of my favortite cameras I've ever owned. I used to have an x100(I can't remember which one I had), and I just never loved it.
Wishing I would have preordered mine the first hour since I was awake but I waiting the next day😂
I mean a more sensible alternative would be arguably a Leica M 240 if the x100 vi costs around 2-3000 pounds second hand. The focus isn't a problem for a skilled photographer(some people can focus almost as fast as autofocus with a rangefinder). In terms of compactness, you might consider getting a light lens lab 35mm f2(replica of the legendary leica summicron 35mm f2 v1) or a voigtlander. If you want a 50, you might consider the summicron(v1 or v3)
I think the Sigma fp is also compact, if it is combined with a small lens. Perfect for videos, okay for stills too. But of course no optical view finder.
Great video! Where does the Leica D Lux 8 rate with the Fuji Film?
Sony ZV1 is actually really good for video - I have it in my backpack and it takes up much less space than apsc. The selfie screen and wind muff make it very practical, too.
100% agree. I don't even own one. You've got to know the opinions seen here are pure copium. Idk if he's making this video to convince himself or his wife that their summer holiday fund is gone for a very alright compact from 2019, but this time the high res R version. 😂
The ZV1 would sort most of the people trying to buy this camera.
as a ZV1 mk1 owner, i can vouch for that. great quality images/videos on that tiny beast without the hefty pricetag. i bought mine new for ~US$500 because i'm upgrading from my iPhone 13 Pro and to cure my Ricoh GR itch; no ragrets. currently using the camera for street/documentary-style photography and now just started recording myself for some silly short videos and drum covers, that Sony AF is great no cap.
i feel like as though Kai is either on copium or on Fuji's payroll, it just feels forced af lol.
@@sauzefilms 💯 It was usually Lok that gave compacts a real shot through the years, Kai was typically always into the fashion camera style. He did like the X100T when that came out. Almost convinced me to buy it. That's the regret copium he's one though. $1600 for an X100V from 2019 with a high resolution sensor has to sting a bit if you think too deeply about it. 😂
@@-greyyou mean the same camera with completely new internals, new body and latest and newest software?
Anyone even considering the x100 primarily for video and vlogging needs their heads checking, though. It's clearly photography first, offering video improvements because it's part of the sensor / processor package on its higher end ILC cameras.
The Zv1 is for simple vlogging and video, with photography also. Completely opposite priorities. It just can't compete with x100 cameras from even several generations ago for photography. And having used both, thebl ZV1 is rather counterintuitive for on-the-fly adapting to the changing situations, whether light, subject, look. It's really quite clunky. The x100 or other Fuji cameras with dials and always there EVF or OVF it takes getting used to but then it's a question of a few seconds only.
Different cameras for different kinds of shooters. I've recommended the ZV1 to people that aren't really into photography and just want something small for primarily better video than their phones. The x100 is really for people that enjoy the process itself and know their way around a higher end camera but want a compact and discrete alternative.
People that just like the looks will be happy enough to start with, but really they'd be better off with something else. Really into video and want to take it up a notch, also add a thousand or two to the price of the ZV1. But as a simple, compact package its a good upgrade for most smartphone users or upgraders from older compact cameras.
@@brownbear100 no I mean the X100VI which is basically in significantly upgraded in every way except for IBIS and mega pixels. 😂
Ricoh GR3 is better. The portability = more usage.
Coping is hard, isn't it?
@@lordofgonzo Depends. I own both and they both feel great. But GR3 gets far more usage for me b/c of the portability factor alone.
Love my GR III a true pro tool in a pocket.
I have GRiii and X100f. Ricoh is used way, way more. The X100 series are lovely, and I totally get the appeal, but they are in no way ‘pocket’ cameras. And I prefer the Ricoh raw files for countryside and vegetation.
I truly believe that 80% of the tik tokers buying these would have been fine with a ZV1F. They are buying these for the film look, which to them is literally just a cloudy white balance and smudgey haze on the lens. 😂
The x100 takes pics with Leica like colors and it also looks good. Sony, Nikon, Canon shot themselves in the foot by neglecting this segment.
When everything in Instagram is in clean digital HD, the only way to stand out is by adding filters/simulations.
@@dyeremi "Leica like colours." 😂
Welcome. You must be new.
@@dyeremi use zeiss glass
I still love my Panasonic GX9 with Panasonic Leica 15mm,
another vote for the X70. Had it from new and use it when not wanting to lug Nikon FX gear, and can't believe how much used ones go for now. As others have said an updated version would be great... except it won't have the X-Trans II... and so let it begin...
Cheap alternatives: Sony Ax00 with the Sony 20mm f2.8 pancake or Olympus EM10 Mk2 or mk3/Panasonic GX80 + Panasonic 20mm f1.7.
And with the spare 1000$ you can actually go on a vacation.
I have recently found a new X100VI for just 2950€ on the used market. What a steal 😅
I have been waiting so many years for an X-Pro 4 :( They don't even have to do much, just give me an X-Pro 3 with modern AF and processing.
The RX1Rii is still the best... annoyed Sony haven't introduced a iii. It's still a great formula
I just took my X100VI and my Nikon Zf with me to Italy for a couple weeks and I loved shooting the X100VI. It was nice walking around in all conditions and not worrying about weatherproofing unlike my GRIIIX. Not to mention how nice a viewfinder and tilting screen make seeing your shot much easier than the GR. My only gripe about the Fuji is at times you think you’ve snagged a shot but haven’t because the shutter button/release aren’t that tactile. All around love the X100VI.
Peak defign's micro clutch worked great for my x100v
Enjoy your fun approach and "made for radio voice". A conversation between friends is an engaging way to review gear. This video started to ramble on a just a little bit as it went on (sorry).
Wouldn't the Nikon Fc be a valid comparison at the start as an alternative for a carry-in-your pocket camera, especially when you start adding hoods, grips etc. to the Fuji? You mentioned it very briefly a fair way into the video but could have shown it.
X100VI
521g. 128 x 75 x 55 mm
Nikon Fc Body Only
445g. 135 x 94 x 44 mm
+ Z 40mm f/2 SE 168g
Carry the Z 28mm in your other pocket 😊
Perhaps doesn't look as cool 😎 or Leica-like with the viewfinder on top but is more versatile. Styling and rarity seems to be part of the appeal.
I agonized over the compact camera a few days ago, but ended up doing a triple take. Because both Ricoh and Fuji are at a premium and very hard to get. This made me rope in the purchase of the Leica Q3, but adjusted the sensor to 36 megapixels.😇
for me, the soft release button helps a lot, because on my x100f, i kinda have to dig my finger into it to take the photo, with the soft release its easier 🤣 i have only one camera the x100f since 2017, kinda wish its a 28 instead of a 35, other than that i love it very much, the optical is way better than evf, im left eye dominant so not having to put down the camera to see the scene helps a lot, love you & lok's videos! ✌️
Sorry you aren’t too keen on the 35mm point of view. I’m the opposite of you. I don’t like the 28mm FOV. It is too wide. I have to get too close to my subjects. Also I have to be more aware of the edges of the frame.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Great review as always guys, but I don't get why the Panasonic lx100 and the mark II get any love as alternatives. Sure the viewfinders weren't the best, and the first iteration had dust issues, but they were great overall. Smaller than x100 series (except for the intruding lens), they offered a great zoom lens (though the fact that it was electronic was annoying) which is something no large sensor compact offers other than 1 inch the catergory cameras, with crazy fast aperture values (even if they were variable, 1.7 to 2.8 is ridiculous). I felt the image quality was comparable to that of X100f at least (for lx100 II) especially if you crop a lot in your edits with the x100 series for a tighter view, in which case wlx100 ii was arguably better in raw. Single point autofocus was killer on those things too, and they offered all the manual control you could want, great video, and even a dedicated aspect ratio button (though that was admitedly there because of the crop on sensor field the lens causes, I loved the fact that it made you think before you take the shot) and how panasonic was able to make a pro out of a con). They looked darn cool too, especially the grey lx100. Stupid Panasonic really. If they could offer weather sealed versions with an oled viewfinder, possibly with a manual operation of the zoom instead of the electronic, and just created their own b.s "film simulations" they would kill the X100 hype in a flash.
My GR IIIx fits anywhere my phone or wallet can. You can literally take it everywhere without even thinking about it, It's hard to put a price on that kind of portability.
Awesome😊
Why are the earlier editions never mentioned or considered? I am still very happy running my X100F and that thing has proven to be quite the camera even in 2024.
Thought of one but the price really put me off …anyway the waiting list is huge in the UK and I reckon even if you put your name down now it would be probably two or three years before you got one. I’m quite happy with my XE 3 with a pancake lens ,more versatile than the x100 6 and I think probably a little smaller, job done.
Can you make a list of the alternatives at the end of the description? Because other than the 3 you had on hand its hard to find where you've shown other alternatives.
Shoutout to the Rx1m2 😍
Not only does Kai have a huge expensive camera collection, he also has a couple Goros pendants on his necklace. Those can go up to $3500 USD for just one of them. Huge flex, Kai. I see you.
I just can't wait until we have a GRiv. The GRiii is so old at this point. I love mine, it's almost always in my pocket, but it is feeling a bit old at this point.
Had to return mine after waiting 2 months for delivery and only using it for 5 days 🥲 the EVF screen got stuck half way and no matter what I do, it won’t budge. Not sure how long my replacement from BH will take. So bummed.
Nothing wrong with a thumb grip but the smallrig grip is a bit bulky the JJC is more discreet
What about the Panasonic gx9 with the Panasonic leica 15mm 1.7
I still use my Fuji X30 ... Good luck finding one for 200-309 😮
It's such a nice versatile, compact camera
I used to own the fuji x10, it was a great little camera. the filters where great back then too. but not exactly pocketable. im waiting for a new sony rx1. for now i just use the zv1.
Here's an idea, a new version of X70 please.... Fuji just abandoned such a beautiful design unfortunately :(
agree
Might be thinking about it wrong but what about something like a Panasonic gx9 with a pancake lens
Ricoh GR III is very fragile with it's retractable lens. The ribbon cable inside that handles focus and shutter got bent inside my Ricoh GR and it was no longer usable, it's a common issue. I'd go for Fujifilm x70 since it has no outer moving parts.
Tbh you can stick any equivelant 35mm lens on any camera with a decent fast aperture and you can have the equivelant of the x100vi for photography. I've no interest in a fixed focal range camera but good luck to those who are seeking one out.
I'd pick a Nikon Z30 + 24f1.7 or a Canon M6II + 22f2 for a third of the price personally. Better value, better performance in most categories.
It’s a completely different experience though. You’d have to give it a try. Doesn’t have to be the latest model. I have an X100f that’s pretty much always with me
So many small lenses out there available for most mirrorless cameras. Though I wish Sony would redesign their 50mm f1.8. That thing is light but bulky.
@@matthiasj.3332 I had the original x100 many years ago and found a fixed focal length to be limiting for my preferences.
@@matthiasj.3332 I used to shoot the X70 and I agree on the experience, but after going back to the Ricoh PSAM I don't miss it. If fun gets you out shooting then that's all that matters - it's not better just different, and fresh might be all you need.
This is surprisingly the only compact that review tube will praise. So I'm all for it if it drives attention back to compacts. Most of the big channels didn't even give the Nikon Z30 a chance, nor the M6II, nor the a7C. They usually just complain about how their hands are too big. 😂
I couldn't get the X100VI or the Nikon Zf so I went for the X-T5, and I love it, but it's not a camera you always carry with you. The Sony Rx100V I have is perfect for that. Or the X100 OG.
Got a X-Pro1 but also that is relatively big to always carry around.
Anyway just to say that I really didn't need the X-T5, just a bit faster to use X100 (only because I prefer Fuji colors to Sony, otherwise the RX100 would have been perfect).
Forget the Mpx race, true it gives cropping powers, but at what cost?
2:07 How do you get the ERF (electronic rangefinder) to display the entire frame??? Mine only shows a zoom in on the focus area. I just can't figure out how to change that setting!
thanks
A used Sony RX1 is also a great alternative and full frame
I owned a Fuji XE4 until recently. It's a very good alternative to the X100 series. Xt4 sensor, amazing black and white pictures.
And you can change the lenses.
I ended up selling it because I wasn't fond of the Fujifilm autofocus system and didn't use it much.
But it's a wonderful small sized camera!
also fujifilm xe4 sells now for more than when it was new.
I feel like the X100VI is almost a perfect camera for versatility. I just wish it had a focus scale like the Leica Q so I could manually zone focus.
It is not completely the same, but I have much older Fujis and you can easily zone focus with every the lens using the digital focus scale in the evf or lcd, and/or the Af lock mode.
You can zone focus. You just need to toggle the focus scale in the settings.
@@konmorse I'm used to looking down at the lens or feeling the focusing position with a tab (coming from Leica M). The all-digital interface makes sense in the existing X system but I think is missing a few convenience features
I ordered the x100 vi, while waiting for it I got nostalgic and got a canon 1Ds mk3 + 50mm f1.2 L and the combo was almost half the price of the Fuji, I think I’m going to cancel the x100. Love the Canon combo.
Ricoh gr for image quality, fujifilm for build quality. I own ricoh gr l, X70, X100F, XE1.
Dynamic duo
pen f would be great if you don't mind m43. I have one and bring it everywhere. but if they make a pen f ii would be great but I doubt it.
the new olympus ep7 is also great i think for compact.
the other one is sony rx1 also great it is fullframe
If they could have put PDAF in the F, I'd have it already. I'd probably still get the EM5III until then personally. Sacrifice a little fun for a little less frustration.
The EP and EPL lines are great too, same problem though. Even the ZV1 has Sony PDAF.
Hi, did you notice that at 8 minutes and 19 seconds you took a photo of the very talented Joe Bastianich?
Just get the xt5 + 27mm 2.8.
I got my X100S for US$ 125. I've also read someone else got their X100T(?) for about US$200ish(don't really remember). So getting the old X100 series within US$200 - 300 is possible.
Kai is now officially a fuji fan boy
Probably paid by Fuji
It's like he has been infected by the spores and become a religious extremist. The pure hyperbole and nonsense opinions in this video is wild. Even Lok isn't convinced. 😂
I feel evangelise. Do you have a moment to speak of our lord and saviour the X100?
This video was made so Kai can be invited for the upcoming X-summit in Australia. 😉
Until his next Leica video
Nikon Coolpix A takes amazing photo
Does the uv filter seal the air inside the af system? Does the af motor have to fight pressure?
my 300€ alternative to the X100VI?
Well... An X100S ! Those are the cheapest X100 cameras you can find, as the original if taking back some value becoming more of a collector's item more than a used camera nowadays.
The X100S has all the improvements coming from the newer sensor and processor (which weren't upgraded going to the X100T), and it doesn't have that "first" aura than the X100 has, being cheaper than both the X100 and X100T, but performing just as good as the X100T, and being a sizeable upgrade over the X100 ! Best of both worlds.
I picked mine up locally in France for 300€, even came with 6 batteries, a dual charger, a couple of straps and a leather case !
Kai went wardrobe shopping in Taiwan ;)
Ordered mine from a well known UK photographic store on the day it was officially announced... still waiting patiently 😞
My "compact" is Sony A7IV and Voightlander 35mm f1.4 Nokton.