I bought this one and removed the back cover. TIPS: Unscrew the 4 symmetrical screws. IMPORTANT: Take note of the metal rings. There are total 8: 4 on the back of the metal plate, and another 4 at the bottom of the screw hole which you can't see. Avoid tilting the lens so they don't move out of position after unscrewing the screws. I didn't know they were there and they fell down into the lens and took some effort to get out again. Then pop out the plastic by releasing the small black plastic hatches on the backside. My challenge: If putting an ND on this lens, that shows in frame, even with a single 55-to-82 step ring and then with the slimmest possible NISI ND. Did you solve that? Otherwise guess have to crank the shutter on this one and hope no led lights in sight :-) Thanks!
Thanks for your detailed walkthrough! and I'm happy you managed to do it safely. I don't shoot a lot outside so I don't have ND filters to test. But I know that ND filters are problematic with 16mm full frame lens and you see the black corners around no matter what you do. So being this a 12-13mm equivalent I don't think there is a solution.
The only thing i can think of that would work is if you found a small matt box with one of those slide in nd filters (not variable) . But not sure if they even make it for small lenses as such and also it would be bulky compared to a screw on vnd@@ShadesOfTech
Yeah probably you’re right matte box would be the only solution but it has small diameter so I Don’t know. Probably just reduce aperture or increase shutter speed
The A7IV can crop it fine and still stay at 4K. The ZV-E1 being only 12MP, will end up cropping in HD (Thus, the APSC mode is limited to HD) I'd still prefer the ZV-E1 in low light though, even in HD. Great job BTW!
It depends on the lens but like you see with this aps-c lens this isn't true. It will still read the full sensor read out and then upscale to the 4k, so you may still keep 80% of the zve1 sensor data, and the internal clear image zoom will try to retain as much detail as possible. This quality will be good on the zve1 I'm sure but this method and clear image zoom advancement probably will yield a better picture in the a7iv, and future a7C2 and a1II. If you turn on apsc mode it will crop out 40%+ of data.
@@mjingj yeah for sure you are right. But still XV-e1 ciz retains autofocus while a7iv ciz doesn’t. Still plenty good for vlogging. Of course if max pixel quality is your goal you should go with full frame 16-35
@Shades of Tech yup. I assume all future cameras like next a7c a7 alpha 1 will have all of these features. I will wait for an a7c II and zve1 firmware update before deciding which one to pick up. My A7IV will do the job just abit heavier.
Me too. But I am a little bit concerned of the XV-e1 4k 120 overheating issue. It already overheats at 4k60. Never buy a tech product over promise of future update. I need to see it first. Also a7iv 4k 30 is sharper due to 7k down sampling from bigger sensor and for talking heads is just bananas
Good stuff bro! When you have it on the A7IV with active stabilization on only (not APSC mode) do you crop in a little bit in post? When I tried it I can still see the image circle a tiny bit when I move the camera.
Hi, thank you for this amazing video. I wanted to ask, can we zoom into the captured video in editing without losing quality. Sorry, I am new to all of this, so may be a stupid question to ask.
Thank you for sharing, can I assume Sony ZV-E1 + E 11mm F1.8 at full frame by using dynamic active stabilization, there will be no dark corners? Or still have to apply a 1.1 crop?
Hi @Shades of Tech, it was very interesting for your secret finding of staying away from being vignetting at the four corners. I don't care if it's warranty-voided, can you advise how did you remove the bottom-top cover?
Thanks a lot! Yes it improves a little bit, not massive difference but it’s better. There are just 4 screws to unscrew and you can remove the black plastic cover. In case you wanted to put it again you can do it as well just puttin everything back together with the screws
This was amazing! Another apsc lens that can be used in full frame mode 👌🏻. these are others I hace tested: sigma 30mm f1.4 (I use it all the time) sigma 16mm f1.4 sony 20mm f2.8 pancake sony 16mm pancake sony 10-18 f4 samyang 12 f2
Wow you tested many lens! I tried the 10-20 f4 pz as well and it works without any barrel at 12 with active stabilisation but then if you go beyond 15 there is no way to eliminate black barrel. Reason why I returned it for this 11mm
This is my fav combo! Also just a note, when American’s says “poor man’s” it’s not meant to be mean or rude, it’s just another way of saying budget friendly lol. Like how the Fujifilm x100v is the poor man’s Leica Q2 lol ☺️
@@MikeeRogers yeah I understand it’s definitely a budget friendly option. If you want super high quality you go with the Sony gm but if you use it occasionally it’s perfect and lightweight to just throw in the camera bag
@@ShadesOfTech for what you do (and I do also), the 11mm is a much better option compared to the 14mm GM because it's 1/3 the weight of the 14mm and the 11mm has easier and less expensive filters.
It helps a little bit in making the black border smaller, but definitely don't suggest doing that because it will void warranty and risk to damage the lens.
There are 4 screws, just unscrew them and you can remove it. I didn’t talk much about it because it will instantly void warranty. Also exposes the lens to dust. It improves a little bit the black barrel but with active stab in ff mode you still need to crop in a little bit in post
Is the ZV-E1 applying in camera barrel distortion correction in 4k mode? I have this lens and unless distortion is corrrected with APS-C mode turned on, it distorts too much
Some of the video looks like jello, so much warping and wobbling when movement is introduced, this lens doesn't seem to do well with full frame IBIS. Looks great on static shots though.
I bought this one and removed the back cover. TIPS: Unscrew the 4 symmetrical screws. IMPORTANT: Take note of the metal rings. There are total 8: 4 on the back of the metal plate, and another 4 at the bottom of the screw hole which you can't see. Avoid tilting the lens so they don't move out of position after unscrewing the screws. I didn't know they were there and they fell down into the lens and took some effort to get out again. Then pop out the plastic by releasing the small black plastic hatches on the backside.
My challenge: If putting an ND on this lens, that shows in frame, even with a single 55-to-82 step ring and then with the slimmest possible NISI ND. Did you solve that? Otherwise guess have to crank the shutter on this one and hope no led lights in sight :-) Thanks!
Thanks for your detailed walkthrough! and I'm happy you managed to do it safely. I don't shoot a lot outside so I don't have ND filters to test. But I know that ND filters are problematic with 16mm full frame lens and you see the black corners around no matter what you do. So being this a 12-13mm equivalent I don't think there is a solution.
The only thing i can think of that would work is if you found a small matt box with one of those slide in nd filters (not variable) . But not sure if they even make it for small lenses as such and also it would be bulky compared to a screw on vnd@@ShadesOfTech
Yeah probably you’re right matte box would be the only solution but it has small diameter so I Don’t know.
Probably just reduce aperture or increase shutter speed
The A7IV can crop it fine and still stay at 4K. The ZV-E1 being only 12MP, will end up cropping in HD (Thus, the APSC mode is limited to HD) I'd still prefer the ZV-E1 in low light though, even in HD. Great job BTW!
Thanks a lot really appreciate the feedback
It depends on the lens but like you see with this aps-c lens this isn't true. It will still read the full sensor read out and then upscale to the 4k, so you may still keep 80% of the zve1 sensor data, and the internal clear image zoom will try to retain as much detail as possible. This quality will be good on the zve1 I'm sure but this method and clear image zoom advancement probably will yield a better picture in the a7iv, and future a7C2 and a1II. If you turn on apsc mode it will crop out 40%+ of data.
@@mjingj yeah for sure you are right. But still XV-e1 ciz retains autofocus while a7iv ciz doesn’t. Still plenty good for vlogging. Of course if max pixel quality is your goal you should go with full frame 16-35
@Shades of Tech yup. I assume all future cameras like next a7c a7 alpha 1 will have all of these features. I will wait for an a7c II and zve1 firmware update before deciding which one to pick up. My A7IV will do the job just abit heavier.
Me too. But I am a little bit concerned of the XV-e1 4k 120 overheating issue. It already overheats at 4k60. Never buy a tech product over promise of future update. I need to see it first. Also a7iv 4k 30 is sharper due to 7k down sampling from bigger sensor and for talking heads is just bananas
Thanks for your video! Been wanting to see this combo!! Did you try it with dynamic active stabilization?
No I Tried only with active but dynamic active should be even better and more stavle
Good stuff bro! When you have it on the A7IV with active stabilization on only (not APSC mode) do you crop in a little bit in post? When I tried it I can still see the image circle a tiny bit when I move the camera.
Thanks a lot. Yes I apply a further 10% crop but it’s not massive
@@ShadesOfTech thanks 🙌🏽
Hi, what's the point of removing the black thing behind the lens? what does it improve exactly?
Hi, thank you for this amazing video. I wanted to ask, can we zoom into the captured video in editing without losing quality. Sorry, I am new to all of this, so may be a stupid question to ask.
I wouldn't say it's very stable. Is that on A7IV only or also ZV-E1? I'm confused :D.
Thank you for sharing, can I assume Sony ZV-E1 + E 11mm F1.8 at full frame by using dynamic active stabilization, there will be no dark corners? Or still have to apply a 1.1 crop?
I think that it won’t have any black corner with active dynamic but I’m not 100% sure
Did you try dynamic stabilization with the plastic piece off? Did that help with getting rid of the vignetting?
Yeah a little bit better but not dramatically better
Hi @Shades of Tech, it was very interesting for your secret finding of staying away from being vignetting at the four corners. I don't care if it's warranty-voided, can you advise how did you remove the bottom-top cover?
Thanks a lot! Yes it improves a little bit, not massive difference but it’s better.
There are just 4 screws to unscrew and you can remove the black plastic cover.
In case you wanted to put it again you can do it as well just puttin everything back together with the screws
Did you use slog 3 for the night shots or s cinetone??
Why didnt you show dynamic active steady shot?
This was amazing!
Another apsc lens that can be used in full frame mode 👌🏻.
these are others I hace tested:
sigma 30mm f1.4 (I use it all the time)
sigma 16mm f1.4
sony 20mm f2.8 pancake
sony 16mm pancake
sony 10-18 f4
samyang 12 f2
Wow you tested many lens! I tried the 10-20 f4 pz as well and it works without any barrel at 12 with active stabilisation but then if you go beyond 15 there is no way to eliminate black barrel.
Reason why I returned it for this 11mm
soo helpful
@@ShadesOfTech Hi! Did you remove the plastic on the 10-20 F4 like you did on this 11mm F1.8?
Yes. It improves a lot at 11-15 then there is no improvement going up to 20
@@ShadesOfTech Thanks brother✌
Pretty much like a 14mm after active mode and maybe another 1.1x crop to get rid of dark edge. A poor man's 14mm f1.8GM.
Hahah yes exactly but we are living hard times and Sony cameras are expensive lol
This is my fav combo! Also just a note, when American’s says “poor man’s” it’s not meant to be mean or rude, it’s just another way of saying budget friendly lol. Like how the Fujifilm x100v is the poor man’s Leica Q2 lol ☺️
@@MikeeRogers yeah I understand it’s definitely a budget friendly option. If you want super high quality you go with the Sony gm but if you use it occasionally it’s perfect and lightweight to just throw in the camera bag
@@ShadesOfTech for what you do (and I do also), the 11mm is a much better option compared to the 14mm GM because it's 1/3 the weight of the 14mm and the 11mm has easier and less expensive filters.
@@HikeSoloOutdoors good point.
Hey Shade, what video setting are you using on ZVE10?
3:37 why did u removed the plastic cap? I don't get it. with what it helps?
It helps a little bit in making the black border smaller, but definitely don't suggest doing that because it will void warranty and risk to damage the lens.
How did you achieve it? Do you just need to remove one screw? Any instructions would be really appreciated !!! 😊@@ShadesOfTech
Hey, can you explain how you managed to take that part of the lens off? And how does that affect the full-frame conversion of the lens? Thanks :D
There are 4 screws, just unscrew them and you can remove it. I didn’t talk much about it because it will instantly void warranty. Also exposes the lens to dust. It improves a little bit the black barrel but with active stab in ff mode you still need to crop in a little bit in post
Maybe if we didn’t remove it but use dynamic stabilisation, will it look ok?
Yeah I think it’s the best result so far
HDR version please! This is gorgeous, thank you.
You’re welcome and thanks for the feedback
Is the ZV-E1 applying in camera barrel distortion correction in 4k mode? I have this lens and unless distortion is corrrected with APS-C mode turned on, it distorts too much
I noticed some distortion if you stay too close while vlogging like 10cm . It’s great for vlogging, landscape and travelling and real estate
OK that answers my question - have to apply some barrel distortion correction in post
@@mjingj You can crop in to the equivalent of a 14mm in post to get rid of the distortion.
@@v3zMedia distortion is the whole lens, can not be cropped away
I love my crop video camera A7IV.
Some of the video looks like jello, so much warping and wobbling when movement is introduced, this lens doesn't seem to do well with full frame IBIS. Looks great on static shots though.
On static is really great. Probably my vlogging stills need to be improved lol. I think with new stabilisation on new Sony body it will be much better
Thank you
You’re welcome!!
Great video!
Thanks a lot!
Amazing ❤
Thanks a lot!!
Nice video.
Thanks a lot!
where was the ZV-E1?? 🙄
flicker flickering. pay attention to the shutter speed next time.
Yeah I know I still miss it sometimes especially in Rome flickering was a noghtmere
Sony is King man
Yes I love Sony cameras
too much 😮
Too wide
Yeah for some cases is too wide but there are some cool applications as well