Finally someone made a video about this lens for the a7iv! 🍻 Did you use the super crop 35 on taking photos from your other video. New subscriber here! Kudos! 😊
Hey JP! Thanks for the sub 🙏🏽. Yeah I really have been loving the lens paired with the A7iv. It really rounds out the camera! Yep the photos are from the lens. In Super35 it gives you 18M so the pictures are totally great for social media and online use! Appreciate you watching man. See you around the channel more! Cheers!
I have a7iv from last 1 year, and yesterday i bought zv e10 as a secondary camera, and now i need a wide angle lens which i can use for both, and this is the video i was looking for before buying.
As an A7iv owner which was my first ever full frame camera...the first lense I bought was the Sony 16-36 G. Very small lense so it works well on a gimbal and because it's native Sony and newish the AF is outstanding and also even has focus breathing compensation. Having it at 16mm mitigates the 60fps well
Hey. That is a great combo! I think the 16-35 is a great lens combo for the A7iv. Everything thing you mentioned is spot on! I do find the 4k60 at 16mm is a bit too tight for landscapes or architecture/real estate. 16mm becomes 24mm in 4k60. However in crop mode you get extra reach! 24-52mm. Thats way this 11mm is perfect for 4k60. For the ultra wide slo mo. Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation. Appreciate your time. Cheers
@@MichaelNgvyen 16mm Full frame = 11mm APS-C So basically the same focal point. No? The thing the 16-35 G is lacking is a super fast Aperture at F/4 But honestly I think it performs fairly well in low light it's main draw back is it doesn't have much shallow depth of field. So in those situations I switch over to my 50mm F/1.4
@@puckhead1221 yes you are right. 11mm apsc is 16mm Full Frame. what I was trying to say was, with the A7iv in 4k60, 16mm becomes 24mm so that why its good to have the 11mm if you want to a 16mm look in 4k60. IF that is something someone needs of course..hope that made sense.
Yep! Thats right. I was thinking of mentioning that but I mostly shoot in 4k so I wanted to address the 4k60 crop that everyone seemed to be so angry about when the camera was announced.
@@RafalGendarz bokeh probably, but from I understand about the crop mode you don’t lose resolution or quality. Maybe I should make a video and test that ! Thanks for the engagement Rafal. Appreciate it!
Great Video! The crop is only a problem if I want to have a wider look in slow motion. An this lens is a far better solution than the Sony 16mm f:2.8! Thanks
Great review bro... i hv this for A6700... and i use it on A7iv too... did you use it on crop mode for video shoot when active stab on? or just crop it in post when you didn't use crop mode.
Thank you. Yeah I got the lens for video for the A7iv. Yeah I use the lens in crop mode with active when I’m moving. It gives me that wide look that is really smooth. But now I sometimes use it in full frame mode for the extra wide look. And crop in post a bit of get rid of vignetting and it gives like a 13mm /14mm look. Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. Cheers
great video, well put together, and well said. I am looking at getting this lens for my ZV-E10, but your explanation with the A7IV was still helpful. Mainly because, I will eventually get it or the A7SIII. They are dream cameras!
Thanks so much! Really glad you like the video. That would be such a great combo! How are you enjoying the zv-e10? I was thinking of picking it up too for a smaller quick setup. Thanks for the comment, appreciate it man! 🙏🏽
I bought the new 10-20 F4 for use on the A7iv. That is ideal for my uses where I often want variable focal length. Gives me effectively a 15-30 with power zoom at half the price of the Sony 16-35 F4 full frame lens, with the advantage that I can use with crop at any frame rate with no loss of quality.
Nice video. I’ve just got myself the ZV E1. Gonna be trying the 11mm out on that. It doesn’t have the 60 fps crop issue, but the price and compact, lightweight size are a big plus for the small form of the zv e1.
Hey Jonathan! I have also been thinking about switching to the ZV E1! I would love to know your thoughts if you do decide to get this lens. I have used it a lot in the full frame mode recently and I’ve been really happy with the quality of the images and the unique look that it gives. But yeah, l would love to know your thoughts. Thanks for watching the video and leaving a your insight.
@@MichaelNgvyen Thanks for your response. I will be uploading a video in the new year to my channel about using the Sony ZV E1 with the 11mm 1.8 for real estate, so keep an eye out for that.
So I stared out with the a6400 and had plenty of great apsc glass. But I wanted something better for video. When the A7IV was released, it was the prefect upgrade for me. I shoot video in apsc mode with the great apsc glass. Just added the Sony 11mm and the Sony 15mm to my kit. For gimbal work, the set u p is a lot lighter, and the A7IV rolling shutter is negligible in crop mode.
Sounds like a similar path to mine for Sony! The 11 is perfect for everything you mentioned. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts. Appreciate it!
Hi Anjelly, I’ve never used the A7c but from what I know about the camera, it is basically a A7iii, which i own. And it isnt capable of 4k60. So if you shoot in 60fps or 120. It would be in 1080 and it doesnt crop on the A7c and A7iii. If you out this lens on your A7c it would give. you the same look though. Hope that made sense for you.
Thanks for the great video. I'm considering this lens, so I can shoot real estate at 4K60 at a wide enough angle. The crop is really a non-issue outside of scenarios like that where you can't afford to counter the crop with distance. For that much of a niche situation, $550 is acceptable. The GM 12-24 f2.8 is really heavy, and priced at a point that saving few more $$$ for a7S3 or waiting on a a7S4 for second body that can shoot 4k60+ without crop is more appealing.
Nailed it man! That was something I was considering talking about but didn’t want the video to be to long. Thanks for the comment! Appreciate you watching Jared!
Nice one, Thanks, Can you also use optical zoom a little bit to get even more reach if you want. I love that feature on my FX3. I use it with the rocker button and it works great. More than the crop, I am concerned with the over heating. I am really thinking about selling my A7rIII and getting the A7IV for photography and a second video B cam to my FX3. Your Color looks great by the way. Were you using S-Log 3 or Cinetone?
Hey EK! Yes you can! You can use clear image zoom to get 1.5x extra reach. As for over heating. I haven’t experienced any once set to high. And it was very hot in Milan. Thanks for the compliment on colour. This video was S-cinetone ( with some slight colour wheel adjustments) Thanks for watching man!
I just subscribed. I have the ZV-E10 for now and I am using the Crane M3 gimble and just bought the 11mm lens you are using. Hoping this setup does me well for now. One day I will get more into it as I learn more about this Sony video space. I will keep watching your videos. Love the slow content in your videos. It looks good. I like both of your stabilization shots. I think you have it. Great video. --chris
Hey Chris. Thank you so much. I will do what i can to provide info and value! I love your set up. I think i may get the zv-10 for a compact setup! If you ever have questions. Don’t hesitate to reach out! Glad to have you part of the channel and community! Cheers!
Hello Tukang! This lens has been a great addition to my kit. Im doing a update video soon as I found a new way that it could be used! Thanks for comment and watching. Welcome to the channel. Cheers from Berlin!
Its funny you should mention no professional photography at a venue. I just shot a whole opening night at a venue, I tried using my phone for the whole event, I found it a great way to do it because I felt less conspicuous. Im now looking at getting the Nikon Z30 with the kit lens so I can film and take stills at certain events and be a little bit under the radar. I noticed the new Laowa 10mm f4 cookie lens that will solve the wide shots problem. My other solution is the Sony ZVE10 but its kit lens isnt the same standard as Nikons - but your featured 11mm will be a great lens
I definitely think the phone can be a great tool for that! The Laowa looks super interesting but on the Full Frame sony's it might be weirdly balanced, however with this new sony 11mm or the Laowa you mentioned the zv-e10 suddenly is high on my list for a camera that is compact! I agree with you the Z30 kit lens it much better than the sony counterpart. Maybe get the zve10 body and sony 11mm if you are already in the sony eco system! Either way, thank you for taking the time to comment. I'm sure it is helpful to others! Glad to have you around the channel Mark!
So what about the Tamron 10-18 2.8? I’ll try the Tamron 17-70 tomorrow on my a7CII, I guess it’s the most versatile choose. I had a sigma 18-50 on my a6600 back then but I guess the Tamron is much more versatile.
Hey EastPhilly. Yes the 10-18 Tamron would also give you the super wide look in 4k60 but can also use it for a super wide look in the full frame mode. It could be a great option. The 17-70 might not be a great option because the a7cii also has the crop in 4k60. So that would make the lens 25.5 on the wide end and that is still pretty tight if you want a really wide establishing shot. Hope that helps you!! Thanks for watching man!
@@MichaelNgvyen but 4k60 crop = super35 crop? So when I’m in 4k60 and using a apsc lens I shouldn’t have any extra crop? So I’m still using the whole apsc range 17-70. Am I wrong?
Yes. 4k60 on the a7cii = super35 (apsc). So no extra crop when using apsc lenses. The tamron 17-70 is 25.5 -105 in full frame equivalent. So if you want super wide in 4k60 then 10-18 ( 15-27 full frame equivalent) is better. So thats why if I need a wide establishing shot in 4k60 on my a7iv i use the sony 11 (16.5 full frame equivalent). Hope that makes sense!
Well produced video! Just subscribed. I live in HK. Just joined the Sony ecosystem from Canon. It’s much more fun after joining Sony because of much more lens choices in a more economical ways! I’m also using A7 iv right now!
Hey Joseph. Thanks foe the sub! Welcome to the Sony fam! I agree. Sony is killing it with lens options. Hopefully I can share even more useful info for you in the future. I have a update on the 11mm lens that i think people will find interesting! Glad to have you join the channel! Greetings from Berlin!
Did you try without crop? Act steady shot + breathing comp.? So ypu are using FF mode, not the noisy super 35 crop mode. As everyone editing videos, it's easily editable any editor program if there were any vignetting yet.
Hi Krinyo. Yes there is another video on my channel where I do exactly that! I use the lens in 4k24 in FF mode with active steady and punch in a bit in post to remove all vignetting.. It gives you a really cool super wide POV. It's approximately 13.5mm. Thanks for leaving your comment! appreciate you watching. cheers
Depends on what camera you are using it with and what you need. I’d say if you need super good autofocus and a wider look in 4k60 from the a7iv then yes. But otherwise, no.
Which these ultra wide angle lenses do you suggest for indoor real estate videography in a low light noisy situation with Sony ZV-E10 camera ? 1. Sony 11mm f.1/8 2. Samyang 12mm 3. Rokinon 12mm 4. Tamron 11-20mm 5. Viltrox 13mm F1.4
Hey Masood! The truthful and non biased answer is the Laowa 9mm 2.8, when I used to shoot real estate I found I wanted it really wide, and the Laowa gives you a 13.5mm field of view on the ZV-E10 beacuse of the crop factor. But here is why I still think the Sony is the BEST choice for you/ and the question you asked. The Sony still gives you quite a wide look (16mm) and it has the best and most reliable autofocus out of all those options above. Plus the 1.8 will help you eliminate the noise. It's sharp and accurate! Hope that helps you!
yeah I liked it, thought the over all look was awesome :) I'm thinking of up grading to the Lumix GH6 as I already have the G9. Then on the other hand I also have the Sony A7III, so kinda thinking about the A7IV.
No wonder your wife isn’t smiling when you leave the camera store you, you have too many good toys! 😉. Thats tough. I hear so many good things about gh6. But I love my A7iv. It does everything I want it too.
Hey Sachin, to be honest it still very good. The video resolution is still 4.6k down sampled to 4k so to be honest i don’t notice much of a quality loss. For photo you still get 16mp which is more than enough for many situations.
Hi Tim, if you’re speaking in terms of video quality then no, you’re still getting 7k recording downscaled to 4k but only using the centre crop so what it affects is the field of view. It’s not really affecting the detail it captures. That’s mainly the lens. But if you’re speaking in terms of photo, then yes. Sort of. It goes from 33mp FF to 18mp in crop(apsc) mode. I hope I explained that well and made sense. Thanks for the question and commenting.
you need to make a lens profile if one doesnt exist (takes like 3 minutes) , i recommend try to shoot with 1/400 shutter for less motion blur , apply Smoothing as little as possible for less motion blur (0.2 instead of 0.5) , and shoot at your camera native ISO in SLOG3 (800 or 3200) to reduce noise to achieve this shutter speed if necessary (havent tried this yet, just reading about it all today) . i dont have this lens (yet) , i'm experimenting with my sigma 14mm FE (4k60 crop + gyroflow) , which is very heavy to hold . remember you must turn ALL stab off in camera to use gyroflow. lemme know if you need help . tonight ill try that slog3 3200 iso with my 14mm and gyroflow and see if i can get combination of high shutter, low Smooth value , low noise (native iso), and low motion blur , in night time lighting and indoors video. oh yeah except all the lights flicker here so i have to use 1/125 so i'm screwed lol
I guess the full frame aperture equivalent for a f1.8 lens is about 1.2 or 1.4 right? Because even the aperture is 1.5x crop. So that makes the 11mm f1.8 is about 16mm f1.4?
About to buy this lens, I have the kit lens, 24Gm 24-70gm ii and had the 70-200 GM ii lens for my a7 iv. Really excited now because I love smooth cinematic videos and now truly appreciating Ultra wide lens
Hey Yula! Thats awesome! The lens is really great for the wide look in 4k60 and versatile to get a 13mm look in 24fps. I made a updated video about the lens. But to answer your question you also just multiply the crop factor to get the approximate full frame aperture. So the lens would be 16mm f2.7. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment!
@@MichaelNgvyen actually that makes sense lol its 16mm f2.8 ish, loved seeing those smooth handheld shots btw! also was surprised to learn about the new Sony ZVE1 today, it would pair really nice with the 10-20 PZ for a fun camera! hope you have a great day!
Depends. I still think the 20mm is a great lens. It’s definitely sharper and built much better than the 11mm. I still consider it my main lens. But if you shoot a lot of 4k60 then The 11mm can also be used for everything. I’ve been using it exclusively to really test it and so far super happy with it.
I’m shootings a music video and I like both looks 20mm and 11mm. What would you go for as far as shooting a music video 20mm or 11mm on the sony a7iv 4k 60
Hi.. yes you can use on A7iii!..In apsc mode you get 16.5mm and if you use it in full frame mode too and zoom in a bit in post to get 13.5mm approx. Image quality isn't reduce for video. Megapixels is reduce in photos. Hope that helps
So A7IV 4k60p the APC 11mm --> 16mm and it would be the same thing with a full frame 11mm --> 16mm ? (ex. TTartisan 11mm full frame fishye) Or in case of 11mm APC lens is x1.5 because the size difference and another x1.5 because the 4k60p crop --> 25mm ?) I'm confused
Hey Tamas, first thanks for watching! and commenting.. hopefully my explanation here can help you understand better. With any APS-c lens for Sony you need to use the crop factor (x1.5) to get the Full frame equivalent.. so in this case, as you said, it is 11mm x 1.5 --> 16mm. 4k60 on the Sony a7iv crops in to APS-c mode so the 11mm is a 16mm. You don't have to add another x1.5 that why this lens helps solves the crop issue if you need something really wide for the A7iv. And basically to make things even easier to understand, no matter which mode you use (24fps, 30 fps, 60 fps, 120 fps) it will be 16mm equivalent. I am making an update video for the lens for another way to use it. Hope you are subbed so you can see it and thanks if you already are.
@@MichaelNgvyen thx for the replay, it makes sense what you explained. But I'm curious about the FOV, the crop 11mm and the full frame 11mm lens would look the same ? In my head with a full frame 11mm lens the image should be x1.5 wider. Waiting your next video. Maybe you can actually make a comparison. A few cheap super wide manual FE lenses do exist on the market for sony.
Finally someone made a video about this lens for the a7iv! 🍻 Did you use the super crop 35 on taking photos from your other video. New subscriber here! Kudos! 😊
Hey JP! Thanks for the sub 🙏🏽. Yeah I really have been loving the lens paired with the A7iv. It really rounds out the camera! Yep the photos are from the lens. In Super35 it gives you 18M so the pictures are totally great for social media and online use! Appreciate you watching man. See you around the channel more! Cheers!
The slow moving shot between the pillars with active stabilization on was soooo buttery 👏🏽🔥
Thanks for noticing! Still a favourite shot!
I have a7iv from last 1 year, and yesterday i bought zv e10 as a secondary camera, and now i need a wide angle lens which i can use for both, and this is the video i was looking for before buying.
Amazing! I think that is an amazing setup! Glad this could help! All the best!
Get this man over 1k subs! Great video, definitely considering buying this lens.
Miguel!! Thank so much for the shout out man!! Yes definitely get the lens. It has been an amazing addition for the A7iv. Appreciate it man!
As an A7iv owner which was my first ever full frame camera...the first lense I bought was the Sony 16-36 G.
Very small lense so it works well on a gimbal and because it's native Sony and newish the AF is outstanding and also even has focus breathing compensation.
Having it at 16mm mitigates the 60fps well
Hey. That is a great combo! I think the 16-35 is a great lens combo for the A7iv. Everything thing you mentioned is spot on! I do find the 4k60 at 16mm is a bit too tight for landscapes or architecture/real estate. 16mm becomes 24mm in 4k60. However in crop mode you get extra reach! 24-52mm. Thats way this 11mm is perfect for 4k60. For the ultra wide slo mo. Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation. Appreciate your time. Cheers
@@MichaelNgvyen
16mm Full frame = 11mm APS-C
So basically the same focal point. No?
The thing the 16-35 G is lacking is a super fast Aperture at F/4
But honestly I think it performs fairly well in low light it's main draw back is it doesn't have much shallow depth of field. So in those situations I switch over to my 50mm F/1.4
@@puckhead1221 yes you are right. 11mm apsc is 16mm Full Frame. what I was trying to say was, with the A7iv in 4k60, 16mm becomes 24mm so that why its good to have the 11mm if you want to a 16mm look in 4k60. IF that is something someone needs of course..hope that made sense.
So basically the 11mm doesn't crop at 60fps because it's already at a crop?
So you get 16.5mm focal point?
@@puckhead1221 yep! basically. At 4k60. Its 16.5mm
You can do 2x and 4x slomo in s&q mode as 10bit but in HD without the crop
Yep! Thats right. I was thinking of mentioning that but I mostly shoot in 4k so I wanted to address the 4k60 crop that everyone seemed to be so angry about when the camera was announced.
@@MichaelNgvyen true, but then the apsc also has some cons? Less bokeh? Worst quality ?
@@RafalGendarz bokeh probably, but from I understand about the crop mode you don’t lose resolution or quality. Maybe I should make a video and test that ! Thanks for the engagement Rafal. Appreciate it!
Definitely getting this lens for vlog and video work!!
Yes man. It’s been a great lens. And even better price now then when I got it. Perfect for wide slo mo and vlogs on the A7iv
Great Video! The crop is only a problem if I want to have a wider look in slow motion. An this lens is a far better solution than the Sony 16mm f:2.8! Thanks
Very true! Thanks for the comment!
Great review bro... i hv this for A6700... and i use it on A7iv too... did you use it on crop mode for video shoot when active stab on? or just crop it in post when you didn't use crop mode.
Thank you. Yeah I got the lens for video for the A7iv. Yeah I use the lens in crop mode with active when I’m moving. It gives me that wide look that is really smooth. But now I sometimes use it in full frame mode for the extra wide look. And crop in post a bit of get rid of vignetting and it gives like a 13mm /14mm look. Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. Cheers
great video, well put together, and well said. I am looking at getting this lens for my ZV-E10, but your explanation with the A7IV was still helpful. Mainly because, I will eventually get it or the A7SIII. They are dream cameras!
Thanks so much! Really glad you like the video. That would be such a great combo! How are you enjoying the zv-e10? I was thinking of picking it up too for a smaller quick setup. Thanks for the comment, appreciate it man! 🙏🏽
Its a great lens for the ZVE10 - it makes that camera a very useful camera.
@@markshirley01 I agree completely! Lets hope Sony can get them made efficiently now and keep the price down!
I bought the new 10-20 F4 for use on the A7iv. That is ideal for my uses where I often want variable focal length. Gives me effectively a 15-30 with power zoom at half the price of the Sony 16-35 F4 full frame lens, with the advantage that I can use with crop at any frame rate with no loss of quality.
Amazing! I was also considering this lens! It looks great. Glad to hear its working so well for you. Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan!
do you have vignette on the 10-20mm?
Did you try out the tokina 11-20 f2.8 by any chance?
How are the photos in crop mode? Except for the obvious loss of resolution, if you don't crop, do you see a difference?
@@IdrissMilan for photos there is a huge difference in quality.
Awesome production and I think I will be throwing this in my camera bag.
Thanks CB! You’ll be super happy! I’ve really enjoyed using it so far!
Thank you for telling me exactly what I was curious about.
No problem. Thanks for watching! Theres also an updated video with another way to use it! Thank you for leaving comment
Nice video. I’ve just got myself the ZV E1. Gonna be trying the 11mm out on that. It doesn’t have the 60 fps crop issue, but the price and compact, lightweight size are a big plus for the small form of the zv e1.
Hey Jonathan! I have also been thinking about switching to the ZV E1! I would love to know your thoughts if you do decide to get this lens. I have used it a lot in the full frame mode recently and I’ve been really happy with the quality of the images and the unique look that it gives. But yeah, l would love to know your thoughts. Thanks for watching the video and leaving a your insight.
@@MichaelNgvyen Thanks for your response. I will be uploading a video in the new year to my channel about using the Sony ZV E1 with the 11mm 1.8 for real estate, so keep an eye out for that.
@@jonathanshilton will do!
Interesting… thanks for this video Michael! That’s a smart workaround to use the 11mm lens!
Thanks Melvin! Good to have options.
So I stared out with the a6400 and had plenty of great apsc glass. But I wanted something better for video. When the A7IV was released, it was the prefect upgrade for me. I shoot video in apsc mode with the great apsc glass. Just added the Sony 11mm and the Sony 15mm to my kit. For gimbal work, the set u p is a lot lighter, and the A7IV rolling shutter is negligible in crop mode.
Sounds like a similar path to mine for Sony! The 11 is perfect for everything you mentioned. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts. Appreciate it!
Very helpful and timely video. Considering this or the 20mm right now for vlogging on my A7iv
Awesome. Glad to hear it could help! I have really enjoyed vlogging on the 11mm. It works just the same in 4k24/30.
I own a Sony A7C, do you know if it also crops in 4k60fps like a7iv? Great video btw, super helpful. I think I might buy this lens!
Hi Anjelly, I’ve never used the A7c but from what I know about the camera, it is basically a A7iii, which i own. And it isnt capable of 4k60. So if you shoot in 60fps or 120. It would be in 1080 and it doesnt crop on the A7c and A7iii.
If you out this lens on your A7c it would give. you the same look though. Hope that made sense for you.
Ah that’s too bad. Yes, I understand! Thank you.
Thank you so much for this video!!! Helps a whole lot!!!
Hey JRod! Your welcome! I’m glad it could help Thanks for watching man. Appreciate it!
Thanks for the great video. I'm considering this lens, so I can shoot real estate at 4K60 at a wide enough angle. The crop is really a non-issue outside of scenarios like that where you can't afford to counter the crop with distance. For that much of a niche situation, $550 is acceptable. The GM 12-24 f2.8 is really heavy, and priced at a point that saving few more $$$ for a7S3 or waiting on a a7S4 for second body that can shoot 4k60+ without crop is more appealing.
Nailed it man! That was something I was considering talking about but didn’t want the video to be to long. Thanks for the comment! Appreciate you watching Jared!
Vielen Dank man… echt geil alle Informationen ❤
Gern gern. Danke fürs Zuschauen. 🙏🏽
this video is what I needed..thank you!
Perfect. I am glad it helped. Theres an updated video on the channel also! Thanks for watching! Appreciate it Obscura!
Nice one, Thanks, Can you also use optical zoom a little bit to get even more reach if you want. I love that feature on my FX3. I use it with the rocker button and it works great. More than the crop, I am concerned with the over heating. I am really thinking about selling my A7rIII and getting the A7IV for photography and a second video B cam to my FX3. Your Color looks great by the way. Were you using S-Log 3 or Cinetone?
Hey EK! Yes you can! You can use clear image zoom to get 1.5x extra reach. As for over heating. I haven’t experienced any once set to high. And it was very hot in Milan. Thanks for the compliment on colour. This video was S-cinetone ( with some slight colour wheel adjustments) Thanks for watching man!
@@MichaelNgvyen Great work. Milan looked beautiful, Never seen it with nobody on the streets like that. I live there for 13 years back in the 90's.
You helped me a LOT. Thank you!
Hi Afgan! Thats great to hear! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Hope to see you around the channel again. Cheers!
nice :D what picture profile do you use?
Hey Patrick. I use S-Cinetone PP11 or S-Log3. Depending on the lighting situations.
I just subscribed. I have the ZV-E10 for now and I am using the Crane M3 gimble and just bought the 11mm lens you are using. Hoping this setup does me well for now. One day I will get more into it as I learn more about this Sony video space. I will keep watching your videos. Love the slow content in your videos. It looks good. I like both of your stabilization shots. I think you have it. Great video. --chris
Hey Chris. Thank you so much. I will do what i can to provide info and value! I love your set up. I think i may get the zv-10 for a compact setup! If you ever have questions. Don’t hesitate to reach out! Glad to have you part of the channel and community! Cheers!
Thank you from Jakarta.. Im thinking to buy this lens as well... thanks for the review.
Hello Tukang! This lens has been a great addition to my kit. Im doing a update video soon as I found a new way that it could be used! Thanks for comment and watching. Welcome to the channel. Cheers from Berlin!
where are you from? the locations look wild
It Berlin! Have you ever been here? Thanks for leaving a comment
Its funny you should mention no professional photography at a venue. I just shot a whole opening night at a venue, I tried using my phone for the whole event, I found it a great way to do it because I felt less conspicuous. Im now looking at getting the Nikon Z30 with the kit lens so I can film and take stills at certain events and be a little bit under the radar. I noticed the new Laowa 10mm f4 cookie lens that will solve the wide shots problem.
My other solution is the Sony ZVE10 but its kit lens isnt the same standard as Nikons - but your featured 11mm will be a great lens
I definitely think the phone can be a great tool for that! The Laowa looks super interesting but on the Full Frame sony's it might be weirdly balanced, however with this new sony 11mm or the Laowa you mentioned the zv-e10 suddenly is high on my list for a camera that is compact! I agree with you the Z30 kit lens it much better than the sony counterpart. Maybe get the zve10 body and sony 11mm if you are already in the sony eco system! Either way, thank you for taking the time to comment. I'm sure it is helpful to others! Glad to have you around the channel Mark!
Very detailed and informative video
Hey thank you so much! I enjoy making these even though it can be a lot of work. Really appreciate you watching and the comment.
So what about the Tamron 10-18 2.8? I’ll try the Tamron 17-70 tomorrow on my a7CII, I guess it’s the most versatile choose. I had a sigma 18-50 on my a6600 back then but I guess the Tamron is much more versatile.
Hey EastPhilly. Yes the 10-18 Tamron would also give you the super wide look in 4k60 but can also use it for a super wide look in the full frame mode. It could be a great option. The 17-70 might not be a great option because the a7cii also has the crop in 4k60. So that would make the lens 25.5 on the wide end and that is still pretty tight if you want a really wide establishing shot. Hope that helps you!! Thanks for watching man!
@@MichaelNgvyen but 4k60 crop = super35 crop? So when I’m in 4k60 and using a apsc lens I shouldn’t have any extra crop? So I’m still using the whole apsc range 17-70. Am I wrong?
Yes. 4k60 on the a7cii = super35 (apsc). So no extra crop when using apsc lenses. The tamron 17-70 is 25.5 -105 in full frame equivalent. So if you want super wide in 4k60 then 10-18 ( 15-27 full frame equivalent) is better. So thats why if I need a wide establishing shot in 4k60 on my a7iv i use the sony 11 (16.5 full frame equivalent). Hope that makes sense!
👍. perfect ! Thank you for your test ! This confirms to me that this is the one I need !
Hey makdrax. Glad the video could help! If you get the lens I think you will be very happy with it! Appreciate you watching!
I ordered the lens, and as your video convinced me, I'm sure I won't be disappointed. Thanks again !
Thanks for the video. Much needed. Subbed.
Thank you for the sub! Appreciate it! Heading over to check out your YT channel now!
Well produced video! Just subscribed. I live in HK. Just joined the Sony ecosystem from Canon. It’s much more fun after joining Sony because of much more lens choices in a more economical ways! I’m also using A7 iv right now!
Hey Joseph. Thanks foe the sub! Welcome to the Sony fam! I agree. Sony is killing it with lens options. Hopefully I can share even more useful info for you in the future. I have a update on the 11mm lens that i think people will find interesting! Glad to have you join the channel! Greetings from Berlin!
Thx Michael! Really appreciate your quick response to all comments, including mine! Looking forwards to watching more your sharing! 👍😘
@@Joseph88Hui thanks Joseph. I always try to. Cheers
Great video! I was also thinking of doing the same thing! thank you!
Thanks Andrea! Glad I could provide some insight. Cheers!
Did you try without crop? Act steady shot + breathing comp.? So ypu are using FF mode, not the noisy super 35 crop mode. As everyone editing videos, it's easily editable any editor program if there were any vignetting yet.
Hi Krinyo. Yes there is another video on my channel where I do exactly that! I use the lens in 4k24 in FF mode with active steady and punch in a bit in post to remove all vignetting.. It gives you a really cool super wide POV. It's approximately 13.5mm. Thanks for leaving your comment! appreciate you watching. cheers
Subscribed! 👍
Hi Isaac!! Thanks for the comment to let me know. I appreciate and value everyone’s time very much!! See you around the channel!
I already own the laowa 9mm do you think is it worth to sell it for that ? Coz plus the active stab with the laowa I can have almost 11mm
Depends on what camera you are using it with and what you need. I’d say if you need super good autofocus and a wider look in 4k60 from the a7iv then yes. But otherwise, no.
Which these ultra wide angle lenses do you suggest for indoor real estate videography in a low light noisy situation with Sony ZV-E10 camera ?
1. Sony 11mm f.1/8
2. Samyang 12mm
3. Rokinon 12mm
4. Tamron 11-20mm
5. Viltrox 13mm F1.4
Hey Masood! The truthful and non biased answer is the Laowa 9mm 2.8, when I used to shoot real estate I found I wanted it really wide, and the Laowa gives you a 13.5mm field of view on the ZV-E10 beacuse of the crop factor. But here is why I still think the Sony is the BEST choice for you/ and the question you asked. The Sony still gives you quite a wide look (16mm) and it has the best and most reliable autofocus out of all those options above. Plus the 1.8 will help you eliminate the noise. It's sharp and accurate! Hope that helps you!
yeah I liked it, thought the over all look was awesome :) I'm thinking of up grading to the Lumix GH6 as I already have the G9. Then on the other hand I also have the Sony A7III, so kinda thinking about the A7IV.
No wonder your wife isn’t smiling when you leave the camera store you, you have too many good toys! 😉. Thats tough. I hear so many good things about gh6. But I love my A7iv. It does everything I want it too.
Hey man, How do you deal with the loss of quality with crop?
Hey Sachin, to be honest it still very good. The video resolution is still 4.6k down sampled to 4k so to be honest i don’t notice much of a quality loss. For photo you still get 16mp which is more than enough for many situations.
Is there a loss in quality with the crop? I don't see how there couldn't be but I can't confirm.
Hi Tim,
if you’re speaking in terms of video quality then no, you’re still getting 7k recording downscaled to 4k but only using the centre crop so what it affects is the field of view. It’s not really affecting the detail it captures. That’s mainly the lens. But if you’re speaking in terms of photo, then yes. Sort of. It goes from 33mp FF to 18mp in crop(apsc) mode. I hope I explained that well and made sense. Thanks for the question and commenting.
Are u still in Berlin?
Thank you for this video ☺️
Hey Luis!! No problem. I just did an update aswell! Thanks for watching! Appreciate it man
turn off all stab and use this lens with Gyroflow imo ?
I think that would be a greta idea. I will definitely test it out! Thanks for the comment!
you need to make a lens profile if one doesnt exist (takes like 3 minutes) , i recommend try to shoot with 1/400 shutter for less motion blur , apply Smoothing as little as possible for less motion blur (0.2 instead of 0.5) , and shoot at your camera native ISO in SLOG3 (800 or 3200) to reduce noise to achieve this shutter speed if necessary (havent tried this yet, just reading about it all today) . i dont have this lens (yet) , i'm experimenting with my sigma 14mm FE (4k60 crop + gyroflow) , which is very heavy to hold . remember you must turn ALL stab off in camera to use gyroflow. lemme know if you need help . tonight ill try that slog3 3200 iso with my 14mm and gyroflow and see if i can get combination of high shutter, low Smooth value , low noise (native iso), and low motion blur , in night time lighting and indoors video. oh yeah except all the lights flicker here so i have to use 1/125 so i'm screwed lol
I guess the full frame aperture equivalent for a f1.8 lens is about 1.2 or 1.4 right? Because even the aperture is 1.5x crop. So that makes the 11mm f1.8 is about 16mm f1.4?
About to buy this lens, I have the kit lens, 24Gm 24-70gm ii and had the 70-200 GM ii lens for my a7 iv. Really excited now because I love smooth cinematic videos and now truly appreciating Ultra wide lens
Hey Yula! Thats awesome! The lens is really great for the wide look in 4k60 and versatile to get a 13mm look in 24fps. I made a updated video about the lens. But to answer your question you also just multiply the crop factor to get the approximate full frame aperture. So the lens would be 16mm f2.7. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment!
@@MichaelNgvyen actually that makes sense lol its 16mm f2.8 ish, loved seeing those smooth handheld shots btw! also was surprised to learn about the new Sony ZVE1 today, it would pair really nice with the 10-20 PZ for a fun camera! hope you have a great day!
@@YulaTsheringSherpa yes the new ZV-E1 looks super interesting! Same to you! Cheers!
Should I sell the 20 mm f1.8 and get the 11mm F1.8?
Depends. I still think the 20mm is a great lens. It’s definitely sharper and built much better than the 11mm. I still consider it my main lens. But if you shoot a lot of 4k60 then The 11mm can also be used for everything. I’ve been using it exclusively to really test it and so far super happy with it.
@@MichaelNgvyen thanks for the answer. I live in Berlin too btw.
Awesome man! Maybe a fun meet up one day.
@@MichaelNgvyen yes. I love Photography too. I'm a Sony fan as well. Lol
What lut did you use? Greetings
Greetings Maciejkok! It’s a lut I am working on and testing. Hopefully I can release it soon for download! Stay tuned and thanks for asking!
Which one is more sharper? Loawo 9mm or 11 sony in image quality !
I believe the Laowa is sharper! But for me the AF was important for some vlog situations. Thanks for watching!
I’m shootings a music video and I like both looks 20mm and 11mm.
What would you go for as far as shooting a music video 20mm or 11mm on the sony a7iv 4k 60
@@xoticboomofficial the 20 for sure! I think you could always take a few steps back in your case and the 20 is such a great lens!
Thanks bro 🙏🏾
Is it good to use this lens on a7iii ?
If i activate the apsc.. the image quality willbe the same? Or the megapixel will reduce?
Hi.. yes you can use on A7iii!..In apsc mode you get 16.5mm and if you use it in full frame mode too and zoom in a bit in post to get 13.5mm approx. Image quality isn't reduce for video. Megapixels is reduce in photos. Hope that helps
So A7IV 4k60p the APC 11mm --> 16mm and it would be the same thing with a full frame 11mm --> 16mm ? (ex. TTartisan 11mm full frame fishye)
Or in case of 11mm APC lens is x1.5 because the size difference and another x1.5 because the 4k60p crop --> 25mm ?) I'm confused
Hey Tamas, first thanks for watching! and commenting.. hopefully my explanation here can help you understand better. With any APS-c lens for Sony you need to use the crop factor (x1.5) to get the Full frame equivalent.. so in this case, as you said, it is 11mm x 1.5 --> 16mm. 4k60 on the Sony a7iv crops in to APS-c mode so the 11mm is a 16mm. You don't have to add another x1.5 that why this lens helps solves the crop issue if you need something really wide for the A7iv. And basically to make things even easier to understand, no matter which mode you use (24fps, 30 fps, 60 fps, 120 fps) it will be 16mm equivalent. I am making an update video for the lens for another way to use it. Hope you are subbed so you can see it and thanks if you already are.
@@MichaelNgvyen thx for the replay, it makes sense what you explained. But I'm curious about the FOV, the crop 11mm and the full frame 11mm lens would look the same ? In my head with a full frame 11mm lens the image should be x1.5 wider. Waiting your next video. Maybe you can actually make a comparison. A few cheap super wide manual FE lenses do exist on the market for sony.
Sony 11mm with active and 4k 60 crop? How many mm ? Tnx
Hi Elmer! It would be about 18mm with active.. with regular stabilization 16.5mm. Cheers!
Thank you 👍 i was wrong all
This time I thought its 24mm
@@elmerelmz4993 glad i could clarify! Cheers
I vote for active stabilization. Thank you. 🙏🏼
Yes. It works amazingly on these ultra wide lenses! Thanks so much for watching ll-mel! Really appreciate it and for leaving a comment!
thx for the video.... im glad didn't buy the a74 😅🙈
Thanks Dan! Also it’s a great Camera!
Not too hard to step back really.
Totally. If you have the space. Sometimes you just don’t