ULTIMATE DEATH KNIGHT CLASS GUIDE for WotLK Classic (Talent Progression, BiS, Glyphs, Rotation)
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ULTIMATE DEATH KNIGHT CLASS GUIDE for WotLK Classic (Talent Progression, BiS, Glyphs, Rotation)
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:40 Overview
00:09:16 Best Horde Race for Death Knight
00:10:19 Best Alliance Race for Death Knight
00:11:14 Death Knights in PvP
00:14:34 Death Knight Overview
00:16:07 Outland Weapon Progression
00:17:16 Northrend Weapon Progression
00:21:25 Death Knight Glyphs
00:21:58 Unholy Death Knight DPS Glyphs
00:24:22 Unholy Death Knight DPS Talent Progression
00:31:49 Unholy Death Knight DPS Rotation
00:34:12 Unholy Death Knight DPS Gems
00:35:13 Unholy Death Knight DPS Enchants
00:36:44 Best Professions for Unholy Death Knight DPS
00:39:07 Unholy DPS Consumables
00:39:53 Blood Death Knight DPS Talent Progression
00:46:55 Blood Death TANK Talents & Glyphs (Build 1 of 3)
00:52:33 Blood Death Knight Rotation
00:55:15 Blood Death Knight Gems
00:56:05 Blood Death Knight Enchants
00:56:48 Best Professions for Blood Death Knight
00:58:16 Blood Death Knight Consumables
00:58:52 Frost Death Knight DPS Talent Progression & Glyphs
01:08:54 Frost Death Knight DPS Abilities & Rotation
01:10:06 Frost Death Knight DPS Gems
01:10:36 Frost Death Knight DPS Enchants
01:11:25 Best Professions for Frost Death Knight DPS
01:13:04 Frost Death Knight DPS Consumables
01:14:00 Death Knight Addons
01:14:51 Death Knight Macros
01:15:30 Death Knight TANK Overview
01:19:43 Death Knight TANK Talents/Glyphs
01:19:53 Blood Death Knight TANK Talents & Glyphs (Build 2 of 3)
01:21:42 Blood Death Knight TANK Talents & Glyphs (Build 3 of 3)
01:22:30 Unholy Death Knight TANK Talents & Glyphs
01:24:30 Frost Death Knight TANK Talents & Glyphs (Build 1 of 2)
01:26:12 Frost Death Knight TANK Talents & Glyphs (Build 2 of 2)
01:26:55 Blood Death Knight TANK Rotation
01:28:56 Unholy Death Knight TANK Rotation
01:31:01 Death Knight Defensive Cooldowns
01:34:24 Blood Death Knight TANK Pre-Raid Best in Slot Gear (BiS)
01:42:25 Frost Death Knight DPS Pre-Raid Best in Slot Gear (BiS)
01:50:34 Unholy Death Knight DPS Pre-Raid Best in Slot Gear (BiS)
01:56:11 Death Knight Tier Sets (PvE & PvP)
01:58:08 A Message from Toyhouze
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Why do you like playing Death Knight in WotLK?
its versatility and survival skills make it fun for me as a tank or dps.
DW Unholy is gonna pump, surprised you did not mention that. I mean it is to be taken with a grain of salt, but it should do better than 2h Unholy.
@@1Xareius For sure. If you go to the unholy dps BiS list it's got 2 1H weapons. It's gonna be BiS for Unholy P1 for sure.
death grip EZ
First time playing wow so excited to see what's the hype around the class
I really enjoy your videos - very thorough straight-forward explanation. Thank you!
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Ayyyeee!!! Appreciate this video my guy!
Awesome video, thank you!
Just the guide I’ve been looking for!
Great in-depth video mate. Thanks for all your hard work and effort!
Thank you!
what a great in depth guide great job i think im going to try deathknight
Thanks Dave! Long time no see my friend :)
@@Toyhouze right I see you grew the channel very nicely. Your hard work and consistency has paid off and love your content
2 hour video makes for a good work day!
Excellent, thank you ! What else could I say after such a deep review ?
That ghoul leap sound made my day lol.
Dk was my first tank class in retail. I didn't start playing until last patch of Cataclysm so I never got to experience the true of DK life.
Thinking of going Blood but as an orc I might level in unholy for the pet and extra offense
Dude, your videos are insanely in depth and SO good! Keep up the great work, your channel will take off even more than it already has!
fantastic guide, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this very detailed and fastastic tuto . Also if possible could you do Pally wotlk version of it too
Just started playing about 3 weeks ago. Your guides are amazing for a newbie like myself.
Thank you!
so for unholy the pre-raid bis are 2x 1handers? does it pull more dps than a 2h?
Just my dualspec and realizing how many different builds there are depending on gear, situation and maybe group comp
Could you link what you used for the BIS list? Excellent guide by the way! Makes me hyped to play DK again.
What liked best is no matter what spec I ran I enjoyed one best classes and always felt like you where powerful
what is the hit cap for frost dk with duel wielding if that affects things. Also what is spell hit cap for? just icy touch?
First of all, great guide Toyhouze, one question though, what about the frost tank rotation, same of blood?
If duel spec is in from the start, my plan is an unholy DPS, and a blood tanking spec. If they add it later , i problay do stuff like your blood DK leveling
how does a blood dk add up against a prot pala within wotlk? hesitant which to pick.
Can you explain why you don't get Bloodcaked Blade for Dual wield frost?
I want to make Unholy DK but in the AH nobody sell glyphs of raise dead. I cant find it in the trainer shop. Maybe im blind . (Someone can help ? where to find it)
ive seen over 5 dk guides now and their all diff...i cant wait to get in and see for myself!
Unholy ftw mate
Do you follow the standard blood tanking rotation for frost tanking?
This reminds me of what I believe was you in a early dk video claiming blood was the lvling spec. The unholy build you gave is the t7 bis build. While lvling and preraid, you definitely want blood subspec. Not frost subspec
Is darkmoon greatness worthwhile for dk? I have a hunter and a dk, but can only afford one card
so why didnt you got over the frost tanks rotations ? or bis ?
I just watched you original HTP DK guide, very nice timing
on the unholy section, i’d recommend dropping glyph of disease for glyph of ghoul and minor blood tap for horn of winter 🙂
yep
for the love of god do not take horn of winter glyph, this will stop other DKs from using the ability and gaining the runic power
@@soapybawlz9160 I think they can still use it. It's rather about whether or not they want to use it
Please ignore the floating troll to the left @ 7:45
He's just going for a casual swim.
As I’m looking to tank dungeons from 60-70 as blood you skipped a levelling talent guide and started at 80, what should I prioritise for talents?
@Toyhouze what do you think will be faster for leveling? frost or unholy?
Go uh. Ghoul is op
Is there a link to the pre raid bis for dk tank?
Do you have weapon progression for duel wield frost?
I couldn’t find that macro google doc does anyone have it?
Yer my fav wow RUclipsr
What are the stat weights for each spec to aim towards? Like strength, haste, mastery
Mastery won’t exist until cataclysm.
@@brandoncastellano1858 I would be extremely surprised if we ever got Cataclysm Classic. Cata was the start of modern Wow, and it was the first expansion where player numbers completely dropped off. We are much more likely to get more things like Season of Mastery, and additional content within WOTLK imo.
@@JustS0meK1dd a life without transmog and Dark Simulcrum. How unfortunate.
@@brandoncastellano1858 Yeah well, if I was playing Cata again, I'd rather just be playing retail in all honesty. I think most people see "classic" as referring to the old version of Azeroth, before the entire world and most models were updated with new textures. I just can't see them trying to capitalise on an expansion that wasn't widely liked, even by the people like myself that played all the way through in a progress guild. I do kind of wish they would introduce transmog in wotlk classic though because it gets boring only ever seeing recent tier sets.
Mained in retail Wrath, will continue to do so in Classic. The amount of people that will be bad at this class will be astounding. Hope most of you all like going back to your TBC mains.
Mag Gamingwhat up wanna play blood dk BUT i wanna have fun leveling up not just starting at level 55 and i love playing dk in dragonflight so what do i need to do
if you are lvling, on a pale horse will make that process faster than pretty much all other talents combined lol
I like Sylvanas lore so cool
52:00 thorough but bereft guide. very well written.
one thing, why not just go rune tap for the last point. Best bag for your buck, I think. Or Mark of Blood for that matter. Good for bosses.
I don’t understand the impurity talent.can someone explain?
Thanks but what about the Frost tank?
Why do we not spec into death chill?
Really cannot choose between the frost or Unholy specs. Lifes hard
You forgot the Titansteel Destroyer when it comes to 2h maces. I used that thing for a LONG while.
Hi,can DoT from diseases crit ?
Thank you for your time.
Yes but only with the set bonus from toc
What's a hurtstone?
If you are engeneer why would I want Frag belt? It puts Saronite Bomb on CD
what u think unholy vs frost?
Loved DK's at the beginning of the Xpac. Turning into a ghoul on Death (IF you die) that ghoul being nearly as strong as the DK himself lol
Need one on pally
engineering is the bis profession for dk over blacksmithing
Jewelcrafting = +42 strength
Blacksmithing = +40 strength
Engineering = 10% haste proc, Mobility, aoe bombs
Dude, this is enough to run a dk.
what about gnomes for pve/pvp?:) is it much dmg loss over a human?
yes
Play what you want, but gnome racials brings nothing to pve and Escape Artist is now a extremely gimp'd version of the Humans new racial.
Can you answer, what site did u use for gear guide?
wowtbc.gg/wotlk/bis-list/
@@Toyhouze Oh, thanks
You want 689 Defense Rating wich translates to 540 Def Skill not 540 Def raiting
I can appreciate the immense of work and time put into this guide but Frost DK's will almost certainly want to go blood subspec until far later into the game as opposed to UH subspec. Once a Frost DK does swap into UH subspec with end-game gear and tons of ArP, they'll want to put points into BCB which isn't done here.
wait yeah why would you go frost subspec early in this expac before Armor Pen
@@ArtemMalian no and im not reading what you wrote either
How can a paladin fear you during Lichborne if you're also immune to fear? :P
Why would you recommend the rune strike glyph when you didn't include it in the rotation?
Blood is just fine at aoe if your group lets you set up. If they don't (they won't) then you're effed.
Looking forward to playing a DK again, just hope we don't get the endless stream of NERFs as we got back in the day.
You start fully nerfed
The unholy bis weapons are one handers? So dual wield uh is bis?
Yeah dual wield is bis
@@Toyhouze which makes it all the more baffling that throughout this vid you completely ignore dualwield weapon options and talents ... especially considering you can mail your fresh DK pair of onehanders basically the moment you create it ... which is exactly why i have sets of two of Assasination blade, Sword of Zeal and Fist of Reckoning sitting in my bank ready to go the moment prepatch hits.
Viva WoW 3.3.5a long live this expansion. haha
Just out of pure curiousness, why didnt you mention Titansteel destroyer when talking about 2h crafted maces ?
If you’re playing either two DPS specs, dual-wield is better until the end of the expansion.
@@brandonkruse6412 Well when you hit 80, this weapon is gonna be pre bis for all the unholy and blood DK's. Even tanks will have this one into icc.
@@Rimkriger1 If you’re playing 2H Unholy yes, but dual-wield unholy sims much higher than 2H until heroic ICC, where it starts to equal out. This is because Scourge Strike, or any physical based strike with a slow 2H weapon is poor until high crit and armor penetration. Same reason why Fury sims low in Naxx and Ulduar.
That being said, the 1h strength options are limited to tank weapons in Naxx, but you can also go for fast a go for fast agility swords because your primary damage will be autos procing blood caked blade and DnD on a 50% lower CD since you’re not using Scourge Strike.
As for Blood tanking, this mace will be BiS until Ulduar where there are options with higher stamina, expertise (needed for parry/haste cap later and getting dodge capped so your Death Strike heals don’t get dodged) and you’ll start to find 2H weapons with 1-2 sockets for stacking stamina or fixing your hit/expertise.
For a Blood tank, always take the highest item level pieces as they’ll have more stamina, unless the upgrade puts you under hit/expertise cap, which can simply be fixed by hybrid stamina gems and armor enchants.
@@Rimkriger1 tldr; use this for tanking until Ulduar but aim for a sword for human or axe for orc unless you’re at or over expertise cap with armor/talent
and dual-wield for UH up to ICC until you down Lich King and obtain Glorenzelg, which will be the point where you want to stack armor penetration, taking the Dirge talent that gives you an extra Scourge Strike every rotation.
im curious to why you chose to do dual wielding unholy, which is significantly less dps than 2h unholy
The further you progress through tiers, the better your auto-attacks deal damage because of the scaling with haste and armor pen. DW with Necrosis+BCB is complete bonkers when paired with Imp.Icy Talons. Then you have your insane dots from diseases and the Gargoyle snapshoting and your Ghoul. I've seen it. It's quite the sight.
@@reallordfluffybutt5636 when does this become viable though?
@@reallordfluffybutt5636 im intrigued
@@silentdarkn3ss405 from the researches as made, it absolutely becomes viable in Tiers 7 BiS, so by the end of farming for Naxx gear, but really kicks off in Tier 8 BiS.
@@silentdarkn3ss405 DW should be better than 2H until Shadowmourne, In Naxx its close between 2h and DW but DW still wins. After Naxx DW is way better until Smourne.
Never played a DK….maybe nows the time?
Titansteeldestroyer craft 2h mace craft item
Hi please send me best dps talent for DK
man people need to watch this video again.. my 3700gs tank keeps getting blame for not tanking enough when im out dpsing a 4k or higher dks.. hahaha!! ( and yes i purposely play with 3700 GS tank in heroic+ just to expose these type of players that can't dps or heal to expose them.) hahaha!!
No on a pale horde and corpse explode for lvling ?sureeee bro
why are the talents 50% different from min 52:00 and 1:20:30 when both are blood dk tank?
17:30
unholy tank bis i would guess same as blood tank right?
FROM THERE?
ok
What about 1h axe for Orc DK?
ima be honest every single time this guy made a funny spell reference i wanted to throw a punch at my screen
The more I look at DK the less I want to play it. There might be something wrong with me, but I don't find it engaging or rewarding at all. The untainted blessed, pure paladin though is looking more and more attractive the more I look at it, primarily protection, but holy also draws my attention.
Same, actually. Also debating on Rogue
DK is about the most engaging class you can play. Can’t say the same about Paladin, especially Holy or Ret.
Lol Palidan 😂
just started playing BDK on Warmane, can be hard with aoe aggro, especially when ur @ 3.2k GS in Heroics, and the DPS is 4k GS, and they don't give you the chance to build aggro, and get toxic and act like it's ur fault : /
I’m gonna be as nice as possible with this critique. It’s obvious you put a lot of work into this, which should be applauded.
However, there are multiple issues with several parts of your guide.
1. Frost DKs are playing the Blood Subspec for the majority of the game, until they have gathered enough ArP in late ToGC / early ICC.
2. You did not include Indestructible Potions for Frost DK. This is your best potion until you make the switch to Unholy Subspec, as the added armor is close to 100 AP due to the Bladed Armor talent.
3. Your suggested Unholy Subspec for Frost DK is wrong. The biggest reason why you dip into Unholy is for Blood-Caked Blade. You ALWAYS want to max this.
4. There are no reliable sources that suggests DW Unholy will outperform 2H. Info regarding DW is based on private server knowledge, which is unreliable at best. No one can feasibly conclude which is better, until we have a working Sim Tool.
2:10 wrong all 3 specs can use dual weapons
When did he say that the other specs couldnt use dual wield?
2 hours for DK ? i think u only need 2 minutes for a full guide
Bro 2H Unholy Dps isn't the best DPS spec, It's at least in private servers Dual Wield Unholy Spec, it's a DPS increase for sure and also can beat frost dps
How does unholy dw even work? The guy from the video clearly doesnt know and just took a bunch of guides from google you got my attantion
@@potworzgo yeah, dual wield unholy is not a meme anymore and it's actually the top dk DPS until ToC ( the 3rd patch of wotlk, like phase 3) type Whitewolf Unholy Dk in RUclips, he has the guide, and there are 1 Dk's discord where u will find so many ppl who will be glad to answer your questions about it
Is 2h at all viable or is dual wield the way to go?
@@benc8167 2H is 100% viable, dual wield is just better dps, especially in naxx patch.
Hi please send me best dps talent for DK
i knew dk was not for me when i finished the starting zone and in my p server we had level skip from 60 to 80 its cata and i went to mount hyjall and in first quest i got absolutely destroyed by mobs, my abilities warent doing decent damage at all and i died quick, dont understand why dk is so praised when its terrible
maybe you're just bad
If you think a 120 atk power flask is helpful Ill tell you a 20% faster mount is DEFINATELY going to help you
A flask doesn't use a talent point tho
I'm playing DK exclusively to finally be the one who Death Grips in wpvp. If you have more than one brain cell you can decide a full wpvp engagement by gripping the right enemy into a deathball.
So, on that topic. I got Loyal Defender because of Death Grip. (Kill 50 people in Drek’thar/ Vanndar’s room )
fett lök
Just waiting for prepatch... Stop groping employees and release this shit, Blizzard.
DK does not need a guide. It's faceroll. How do I play against it? As a warrior or paladin or mage? Anything I can do? Specs? Baits? Thank you
evil? they're not evil
Where is the rotation for frost tank DKs?
Frost isn't the tank spec, tanks go blood
So many problems with this guide. It seems like its all just your opinion and didn't do a ton of research.
Name one? Seems like you just threw your opinion in the comment section and didn't watch the video.
Woooooo can’t wait for everyone to tell you how wrong you are and me have no idea who to listen to
Haha that's funny. But it's possible both could be right. Take for example On a Pale Horse. This is a talent I don't recommend if you are spamming dungeons to level. But if you're open world questing, especially in a zone like Borean Tundra with lots of travel, then it would be a good pick. Just depends on your playstyle.
Toyhouze is wrong. I don’t know what he’s wrong about but I like to make peoples wishes come true.
Played dk in original wotlk, you literally just mash your face on the keyboard, one of your face bones is sure to hit one of your 17 cooldowns, stop complicating it
26:45 on a pale horse is overrated. You get 15% speed when you need to travel just by switching to unholy presence, granted you get it at lvl 70 tho.. keep that in mind. You can also just spend the 2 points into improved unholy presence just to gain that 15% passive speed witch DOES NOT stack with on a pale horse. You will just loose 5% movement speed witch is negligible.