FROST DEATH KNIGHT GUIDE - Wrath Classic

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Catch me live at / valae1 and drop a follow if you want! Hope you guys enjoy the frost DK guide for wrath classic. Please feel free to send me any questions or feedback you may have in my discord / discord
    Table of Contents:
    0:00 Intro
    0:32 Sub-Blood Spec (P1 / early game spec)
    1:18 Sub-Unholy Spec (late game spec)
    3:30 Glyphs
    4:09 Professions
    7:11 Consumables
    9:18 Pre-raid BIS
    10:24 Phase 1 BIS
    12:50 Phase 1 Stat Priority
    15:52 Spell Priority System
    16:25 Proc Overview
    17:45 Rotation - P1 Opener
    18:34 Rotation - P1 Standard
    19:12 Rotation - AOE
    19:56 AOE Situations
    21:46 AMS - Advanced Tips
    22:16 Ghoul Snapshotting - Advanced Tips
    22:46 Fishing for Rime - Advanced Tips
    23:08 Unholy Presence - Advanced Tips
    23:35 Macros
    24:18 Outro
    blood spec: www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent-...
    unholy spec: www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent-...
    prebis: eightyupgrades.com/set/arRLZz...
    p1 bis: eightyupgrades.com/set/kX8frk...
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Комментарии • 194

  • @ItsPummel
    @ItsPummel Год назад +26

    This guide made me rethink what it means to play my Death Knight. I have been an unholy DW morber, but now I want to try out frost dk. Consider that like button obliterated and a new sub to boot 👍

    • @TurboV8boi
      @TurboV8boi Год назад +1

      Like button is obliterate, obliterate, obliterated

  • @brostedfutts
    @brostedfutts Год назад +2

    love the editting, straight to the point. def point people to this video for fdk tips, hope you can make boss by boss guides.

  • @MGC_Saltlife
    @MGC_Saltlife Год назад +1

    Great stuff bub!! Keep it up, you have made my casual play more competitive , exciting and worth my time with my Frost DK TY 🙏

  • @griffdk
    @griffdk Год назад +1

    Nice guide, Valae! Tons of great work out in here!

  • @Grimhallow
    @Grimhallow Год назад +9

    I’m currently parsing 97-99s and still found this guide extremely informative and helpful. I’m hoping to keep climbing with some of the info you’ve shared here- really appreciate it. Liked and subbed!

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Thanks for that king :D

    • @Giothermal24
      @Giothermal24 Год назад

      When are we supposed to call army of the dead?

    • @Grimhallow
      @Grimhallow Год назад +1

      @@Giothermal24 I am sure that Valae could answer better than me, but typically before the fight (assuming it's available). I army on Thaddius during the phase shift right after I jump off the platform.

    • @cat4luny4
      @cat4luny4 Год назад

      @@Giothermal24 I personally do it 12 secs before prepull and swap into blood spec so I have all the runes for my opener. That being said there's few fights when you can use it in the middle of the battle because of interphases (thadius and sapphiron are a couple that comes into my mind). It's just a dps loss if you add it in the middle of the rotation even with snapshot.

  • @sidskelnik1359
    @sidskelnik1359 Год назад +4

    Thank you for making this video. I parse high eighties too low nineties and really haven’t been able to figure out how to improve. Hard to find info on frost dk, everything i see is unholy, so this guide made my day.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      You made my day!

  • @alexistsirogiannis4330
    @alexistsirogiannis4330 Год назад +1

    Really really nice video dude! Completely new to Dk and try to choose between frost and uh 👌

  • @C-wey
    @C-wey Год назад +1

    Your overall knowledge on the subject is apparent and very helpful. I'm a newbie DK so some may say my judgment of your knowledge isn't valid.. I claim it from this tho: your overview of every topic you touched on gave much needed context to start to understand how this class works and how it is best utilized. Hopefully you have or will make more guides getting into the nitty gritty of different fight situations. Anyway, thanks a lot for the content gold.

  • @Bruzak1485
    @Bruzak1485 Год назад +1

    The best dk video i have ever seen, and i think i have seen them all.

  • @finalsoulution1367
    @finalsoulution1367 Год назад

    Thanks for the video brother. I was rank 44 world Enh Shaman in TBC but have not been able to find the same success as a Frost DK in WoTLK. Wasn't doing bad in Naxx but have really been falling flat in Ulduar. I'm looking into what I'm doing wrong because at this point it's clear I have to be. This video was very helpful hopefully I'll start progressing forward now instead of backward.

  • @yama4ever
    @yama4ever Год назад +2

    Really appreciate you making this video! Thank you! There is not enough Frost DK info out there imho.
    I still have 2 questions:
    - Do you use cancelaura BT? (I dont use it, but i've seen people that do)
    - How and where do you fit in UA and BT after the opener? (when they come off cooldown mid fight)
    So far i've been using UA with a death rune and then saving BT for when I mess up the rotation and don't have a blood/death rune up for pestilence
    Keep the video's coming! I'm really interested!

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      TY so much king!
      I don't cancelaura it - pretty much I just use unbreakable armor immediately and don't really worry about the rune impacts while subblood. if you only have one usage of it left in the fight you probably want to line it up with other procs
      When messing up our blood runes matters more as subunholy the timing will be more precise. I believe you typically want to use it right after pestilence in the 2 obliterate part of rotation
      You should always use blood tap with ua unless it's trash maybe

  • @r00ster22
    @r00ster22 Год назад +1

    Sick Frost DK guide for the #1 Frost DK in the world and second best Warlock in my TBC guild.

  • @nikluth
    @nikluth Год назад +1

    Solid guide, and thanks for clarifying your rotation as the only credible one I could find is from Warmane and that is pretty dated. One thing I noticed you do differently is prioritizing FS>OB when over a threshold of RP, whereas I would always prioritize OB regardless of RP to increase rune usage, but it makes sense being able to not waste RP or go over cap too much.
    My parses are in the mid 90s right now but using those little tips and trying to snapshot my raise dead should help out tremendously (:

  • @godursolamehahaxd9909
    @godursolamehahaxd9909 Год назад +1

    Great guide dude! I'm an OG DK player but holy shit there is a lot of good info in here. I've definitely filled in some gaps of my knowledge about the class and spec.
    One thing I do want to add/suggest/say, I use a swing timer so I can see when I will possibly get a KM proc. The main reason I use it is for HB, it's great in fights with 2/3+ mobs. I've always found it to be a DPS increase for me (especially on AoE fights).

  • @jvqs55
    @jvqs55 Год назад +1

    This guide has very good info, ty

  • @josmanfreitez8786
    @josmanfreitez8786 Год назад

    I love this video, you are insane Valae!

  • @ValaeDK
    @ValaeDK  Год назад +9

    - I made a video detailing how to cast unbreakable armor outside of the opener as a supplement to this video, ruclips.net/video/5942n8AI_vE/видео.html
    - The value of hit is higher if you are consistently using howling blast and autoing a boss for longer
    - Remember to always use 2 slow weapons regardless of what combination you have.
    - Some less expensive alternatives for the pre-raid BIS ring and weapon are Ring of Scarlet Shadows / Reaper of Dark Souls.
    - Loatheb's Shadow is also a good alternative to the trinkets discussed as it no longer shares a CD with gloves.
    I will be making a follow-up video for which fights sub-unholy will be better on in the future.

  • @xyleria8026
    @xyleria8026 Год назад +1

    Great info, thanks !

  • @savagedonut
    @savagedonut Год назад +3

    You should get more views, great guide. Thank you!

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      thanks for that, you dropped this👑

  • @he4tl1f3r2
    @he4tl1f3r2 Год назад +1

    awesome content ! high quality gamer

  • @ryanfamous9168
    @ryanfamous9168 Год назад +1

    Awesome guide. Thanks for the time

  • @Dezy623
    @Dezy623 Год назад

    Thank you for a great guide

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад +9

    23:38 as stated before , if you want to max out on your obliterates counts you would want to use 2 seperate UA macro , 1 as you showed in the video only as opener and the other one w/o blood tap that way you desync them and benefit of 1 Obli cast per 1 minute. ( In blood sub spec)

    • @tionblack
      @tionblack Год назад

      can you explain this in a way more simpler manner,

    • @XxLyrokxX98
      @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

      @@tionblack use 2 macros . 1. Normal Umbreakble + Blood tap for your opener. 2. every next refresh of ( Unbreakable ) you are going to use alone withouth Blood tap , use it with in a combination with a death rune which you should have around the same time it comes up. use blood tap roughly 12 seconds later aftter you used your death runes for an additional Obli + blood tap here to refresh in time with pesti.
      I don't know if it was simplier but just try it and you will get what I mean

    • @tionblack
      @tionblack Год назад

      @@XxLyrokxX98 thank you , i think in time when i get more experience with class ill understand what this means hehe

  • @WisdomcubeWoW
    @WisdomcubeWoW Год назад +1

    Good shit. Solid guide.

  • @louisflint823
    @louisflint823 Год назад +4

    I went from late 80 parses to orange 95s because of this guide. Everything I was looking for in a guide for my frost dk. Thank you so very much ! Subbed

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +2

      Let's go bro!

    • @krisklausen2538
      @krisklausen2538 Год назад

      Since it can only be based on observing 1 raid it can just as well be new gear, better raid comps etc. Not saying guide is bad. not at all. Its great.

  • @jecabreradc
    @jecabreradc Год назад +1

    great video!

  • @TurboV8boi
    @TurboV8boi Год назад +1

    Thanks bro this is sick

  • @Singo222
    @Singo222 Год назад +1

    Amazing presentation.

  • @slimjimothy94
    @slimjimothy94 Год назад +1

    Great video, man. My DK's name is Eugh, I'm itching to try out frost now. Straightforward, good niche info, perfect guide.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! :-)

    • @stefan6768
      @stefan6768 Год назад

      My DK's name is Cumcloth. Can't wait to use all these tips just like you!

  • @astralwanderer485
    @astralwanderer485 Год назад +1

    thx!! this is best guide for frost dk!!!!

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      glad you liked it :-)

  • @euro9318
    @euro9318 Год назад +1

    Really awesome guide! Love to see it.
    A few things that I was hoping you would bring up but you didn't was 1. Army of the Dead. When to pop it, what about snapshotting that, manual crowd pummeler? etc.
    and 2. What about weaponswapping your offhand between a weapon with Rune of the Crusader to a weapon with Berserking when Crusader proccs, then back ágain once berserking proccs or crusader runs out. ? Is that a thing for frost or only for UH?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      As subblood use army of the dead before the fight starts, as its damage is minimal compared to expending our runes on obliterates. Once we play the sub-unholy snapshotting army may be important since we gain the Ravenous Dead talent.
      Weapon swapping is likely a DPS decrease but I will have to look into that, I did see the recent unholy weapon swap tech.

  • @auroraXploration
    @auroraXploration Год назад

    Best DK guide!

  • @detox2931
    @detox2931 Год назад +1

    Bro you're a beast! I'm ranked ~200 allstar right now and I'm totally ashamed to admit I haven't even been using Raise Dead whatsoever lol... Arblarg - Benediction

  • @emock72
    @emock72 Год назад +1

    fire vid frost gang!

  • @krisklausen2538
    @krisklausen2538 Год назад +1

    Wonderful guide. Fell in love with frost early on. Is there an addon that helps spot Rime proc, in all the buffs that pop up everywhere?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      check out my discord for my DK weakaura which keeps tracks of procs.

  • @HarbyDrenden
    @HarbyDrenden Год назад +1

    Great vid! Very informative. I saw your other parse video and was struck by how smooth and unique the visuals were. Any chance you can share your video settings?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      do you mean in game video settings?

    • @HarbyDrenden
      @HarbyDrenden Год назад

      @@ValaeDK Yeah. Or if that's a combination of your video card settings.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      I think I run on all low settings with projected textures on. My video card settings are default for a 3070 TI. Hopefully that is helpful!

  • @MultiBuurman
    @MultiBuurman 9 месяцев назад

    Not sure if you will still read this, but is it worth to use Str + Hit / Crit gems to activate the socket bonuses in phase 4? And if so, is it better to gem Str + Hit to get closer to spell hit cap or is it better to gem Str + crit? Thanks!

  • @seanmorse6872
    @seanmorse6872 Год назад

    Really great guide. Perhaps, for a future video, you can go over the rotation in a combat situation. Analyzing some VODs you have of your best parses. Also, quick question, how highly do you value the 4 -piece set bonus over higher ilvl items?

    • @SadisticStang
      @SadisticStang Год назад

      I second this. Openers for long boss fights are fine, though what about times when a rotation cannot include the big cooldowns
      Also he did not cover the use of Death and Decay and Army of the Dead precasts before a boss fight
      And some more discussion on things such as rune grace period and rune syncing and how to keep that consistent would be welcome, via things such as pairing Blood Strike with Pestilence

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      I think I will make a rotation deep dive guide to give a better understanding of decision trees outside of the opener.
      I think the 4pc set is overvalued in a short fight, items such as chestguard of the recluse and frosted adroit/belabored is likely better in this case. Outside of the opener however the 4pc provides benefit since you run out of runic power easily

  • @phendranah
    @phendranah Год назад +1

    One advanced tip that you could also mention is after using your second UA ( and beyond ) you can double oblit, pesti the blood runes ( if the death runes comes back first gotta wait a bit) and oblit again, then use bt/pesti, it allows for an additional obli during UA

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Could you explain the exact sequence of runes spent here? I know getting an extra obliterate with UA is possible in the sub-unholy spec on certain versions of the game, however, I haven't been using this as sub-blood.

    • @phendranah
      @phendranah Год назад +1

      @@ValaeDK (2xoblit)> UA + pesti on the 2 death rune>2x oblit>pesti ( on the blood rune that was not converted due to using UA )>bt + oblit ( on double death rune) then go on as normal

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      You should definitely be doing this on fights where your unbreakable armor uptime is not impacted by delaying usage of blood tap.

    • @christiandiaz
      @christiandiaz Год назад

      @@ValaeDK I found that to get the best of both worlds, (get the extra obliterate and keep up UA uptime) I will keep death runes synced for 3 death rune cycles after the opener.
      For example:
      1. UA comes off CD
      UA -> pest
      2. 1 Death Rune and 1 blood rune come off CD
      BS -> pest
      3. 2 Death Runes and BT off CD
      Obl -> Obl -> Obl -> BT -> Pest
      After this, I just do rotation you described in the vid until I see my next UA will come off CD.

  • @joshuakenck9195
    @joshuakenck9195 Год назад

    So i am currently with 4 piece t9 and double caress of insanity and 5374 gs. What do you think is the right spec for that right now?

  • @wtfpwndomg
    @wtfpwndomg Год назад

    Do you have any frost DK tank guide? Was mostly thinking about glyphs.

  • @Motothemo
    @Motothemo Год назад +2

    you had me at frost dk

  • @Lazris59
    @Lazris59 Год назад +2

    Finally a good guide. I just tried out frost DK and it was difficult because I kept thinking I could get 3 obliterates in before refreshing diseases. Did my first 10 man Sunday and it painful with the diseases always coming off because of the 3rd obliterate. I realized after the raid in a dungeon that I just HAVE To refresh after 2 and do a BS but then I thought well, wtf is the reason for them making death runes? The unholy sub spec with the pandemic talent (6 or extra seconds I think) made it a lot of clearer and prob more fun to mash 3 and then still be able to refresh diseases. But I'm blood for awhile since my gear is shit.
    One other thing I was actually disliking about DK in general is always IT/PS/Pest every pack when they die so fast. I'll try DnD and howling on weaker packs. I actually got glyph of howling blast for the very reason of not wanting to put up diseases every pack in dungeons. But I don't go on spamming FS as much now so I think I'll go back to FS glyph and just use DnD. Is bloodboil worth it for those quick packs?
    Over all I like the pattern/rhythm you can get into with frost and the big numbers. killing machine 100% FS crits and since it attacks with both it's 2 big crit numbers which is always a feel good!

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words 🙂 keep owning on your new frost DK! It makes it so much fun that everything hits twice, huge numbers! Having to use death runes like blood runes is in fact cringe though
      I think blood boil is pretty good if having a death rune won't benefit you. But if you would get a howling blast sooner because of death runes probably want to use bs and pestilence mostly.

  • @bojantepes3163
    @bojantepes3163 8 месяцев назад

    @Valae1 are u using cancleca aura macro for blood tap after u use it ??

  • @padarniri1
    @padarniri1 Год назад

    great video

  • @tswdev
    @tswdev Год назад +1

    The rotation, when explained that way, its really hard to memorize... for me at least.
    A better way would be simply: if you think oh unholy+frost runes as pairs, then you want to prio using your runes always, so that, you use 2 pairs of unholy+frost runes for 2 obliterates, then keep 1 blood rune for refreshing diseases and one for doing blood strike. Always do it like that.
    Now, because of how timers line up and because of rune grace periods, you will be able to have both blood runes as death runes in a small window so you can obliterate another time.
    How to identify this window? Because your diseases refresh at the same time, both will have the same timer, so, whenever any of them has AT LEAST 9.5 seconds duration, you can use obliterate and still be able to "catch" the refresh when a blood rune comes back.
    When your Unbreakable Armor is coming off CD, make sure to prepare your blood runes so that when do you UA+BT you dont end up wasting a blood rune. That single mistake is bigger than the whole use of Flame Caps for example.

  • @Yren28
    @Yren28 11 месяцев назад

    lil tip : u can sometimes save howling blast to use it with a killing machine for a big dmg

    • @Yren28
      @Yren28 11 месяцев назад

      aoe ofc*

  • @christiandiaz
    @christiandiaz Год назад +2

    I’ve seen most guides suggesting to use blood strike immediately after pestilence to keep the death runes synced. Do you find it is optimal to solely use blood strike on rune cd and when you don’t have enough runic power for frost strike?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Keeping your death runes synced only matters rn when the boss has about 5 obliterates left because we are subblood. Until that point always prioritize frost strike if you have the runic power or blood strike if you don't.
      Once we are sub unholy keeping them synced will be important

  • @tionblack
    @tionblack Год назад

    Awesome video and explanation, i got a question tho, in the rotation you use UA then Blood TAP but in the macro you have you do BLOOD TAP THEN UA .DOes that change anything if so whats that ?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Should not matter either way but I should have made it consistent

  • @managershox
    @managershox Год назад

    Really awesome guide. But I have a question about the second macro. Should we use this macro on every ability? One Makro for Icy touch. One for plague strike and so on?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      That is what I do personally!

  • @Hellsage4
    @Hellsage4 Год назад

    Perhaps a noob question but what is the reason for the Icy Touch cast before the Rune Strike in the macro?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Either order will work since rune strike is off the global cooldown down you can cast it at any time. It will just be used on your next auto attack

  • @AI-cp1jg
    @AI-cp1jg Год назад +1

    I love the frost dk, it has the abilities have the best visuals among the dks. My dk's gearscore is just under 3800. According to wowsim, 15/56/0 does higher dps compared to 0/53/18. Do I need to wait for better gear before going to the latter build?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Yea the subunholy build requires more weapon damage to be better since you gain a lot of AP/crit from the other one!

  • @Tigerfan-qx2xq
    @Tigerfan-qx2xq Год назад +1

    Is it worth going on unholy sub-spec earlier with the ulduar ilvl changes? Or will the weapon damage from ulduar weapons still be to low?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      I have not tested it personally but the damage intervals in ulduar favor sub blood on most fights although a fight like xt or vezax I could see it being worth. I will make a video once I can test it myself

  • @robertpuchly7536
    @robertpuchly7536 Год назад

    Nice guide bro but i have one question about 5man dungeon with Frost DK you can use Unholy presence while we killing trash and switch blood for boss or still stay in blood presence? what is best for dungeons thank you :)

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Stay blood presence as much as you can

  • @fonsaz
    @fonsaz Год назад +1

    baaaased!

  • @EzizeT
    @EzizeT Год назад

    Tell me, I'm looking at your clothes on wowlogs, and it's different from the one you have in the video.And it was the belt, the ring, the wrists that you gave them, as I understand it, more emphasis on expertise? or is it better to collect equipment like in the video ? Thanks .used google translator

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Try to keep your statistics close to those shown in the video. I am using different pieces because I have not gotten all my BiS items yet.

    • @EzizeT
      @EzizeT Год назад

      @@ValaeDK thanks

  • @shonen245
    @shonen245 Год назад

    How do you deal with KM and/or Rime procs during the opener? Do you instantly use it or wait till after to not mess up timings?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Use 1 km during the opener after erw for efficiency but if you dodge or parry it can cause your diseases to fall. Some prefer to wait till after 5 obli to use km. Rime should be one of our lowest prio but with km it does about as much as fs

  • @TaskkTV
    @TaskkTV Год назад

    Very nice. Can i level as frost? Or do i have to wait until a certain gear level?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Yes you can level as frost but you won't be able to solo dungeons. If you don't mind that frost and unholy are both great leveling specs

  • @biornsant2894
    @biornsant2894 Год назад +1

    Our BL/Hero shaman is usually a bit slacky and pops it 10-15 secs late sometimes, do i still go full out with this opener or do i wait for BL before popping UA och rune reset?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      You should encourage your shaman to use it at the appropriate time. In some fights a mid combat erw can be even better then using it in the opener but you will never want to delay your first ua

  • @noahburkett7483
    @noahburkett7483 Год назад

    So for the sub UH spec do you do that when you are full bis in p1 or is that late game thing as in like icc phase?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      I'm hoping in ulduar bis there will be some fights where it will be better although we will have to see kill times

  • @johanlahti84
    @johanlahti84 Год назад +1

    Leveled as blood on my dk. Was kinda bored when I reached 70 in pre-patch. Gonna try out frost and level it to 80 now.

  • @wezcarnell
    @wezcarnell Год назад +1

    Do you have a layout for WA which can just be installed as is ?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      check out my discord for my weakaura I made

  • @colombino
    @colombino Год назад

    I see many other frost DKs, guides and youtubers recommending glyph of icy touch over glyph of frost strike. Whats your opinion on that?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Icy touch damage is not much of your overall damage so I would disagree

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

    22:34 your raised ghoul does not benefit from attack power , haste is correct, it also benefits of strength not attack power if you meant to say that but otherwise its would just be misinformation since trying to snapshot orc racial or mirror trinket proc ( attack power ) would be useless.

  • @voodoohex72
    @voodoohex72 Год назад

    how is it possible to get off 6 obliterates after ERW before the next pestilence. On tar dummy im lucky if I can squeak off 4. Is that in a lust hero situation? Im running sub blood spec.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Should be 5 obliterates. You should be able to do it without lust just remove the extra frost strike after erw

  • @jamesg559
    @jamesg559 Год назад

    Is using a fast weapon bad? I have torment of the banished equipped currently but also have split greathammer. Not sure which to use.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      never use a fast weapon in either hand.

  • @ziadramman
    @ziadramman Год назад +2

    I don't understand when to cast Pestilence with Blood Strike to sync up runes. Anyone care to explain why/when we should do that?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +2

      Whenever your frost and unholy runes are not on exactly the same cooldown you can accidentally expend a death rune while casting obliterate. In this case its best to get the death rune on cooldown by using blood strike if it means a wasted global waiting.
      Another example is if you will have approximately 5 obliterates left in the fight you want to ensure your death runes are coming off cooldown together.
      Since we don't use our death runes as anything but blood runes when in the blood subspec outside of a few examples, syncing them is not as important. When we are playing sub-unholy you will want to sync your runes every time they are shown as blood runes.

    • @ziadramman
      @ziadramman Год назад

      @@ValaeDK Thanks for the reply man, I actually went to your wclogs and went to timelines to see your opener. So what im undderstanding is it's always better to bloodstrike after a pestilence to ensure 2 death runes come up together for 2x Oblieterates?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Nope! Syncing death runes does not matter until the end of the fight as subblood. If you drop your diseases you may have to blood strike to not obliterate away a death rune

    • @ziadramman
      @ziadramman Год назад

      @@ValaeDK ah got it. Thanks a lot my man! And keep up the good content.

  • @ryancomey6222
    @ryancomey6222 Год назад +1

    my guild only does 10s pull timers on bosses so i can't pot 61s before pull timer, is using indestructible still better as a prepot over potion of speed?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      If the fight is >1:20 its consistently better to prepot indestructible except on like 4horseman and thaddius. Having the AP for longer is more important then using 3 potions in a long fight.

    • @ryancomey6222
      @ryancomey6222 Год назад

      @@ValaeDK thanks for the reply mate

  • @cameronroberts4296
    @cameronroberts4296 Год назад

    I always try to play unholy or blood and I keep coming back to frost. I know unholy is highest pvp tier but I just can’t do it.

  • @cat4luny4
    @cat4luny4 Год назад +1

    in which weapon damage threshold is it worth to change sub blood to undead?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      They say that blood caked blade should be 5 percent of your overall damage for it to be worth so probably end of this tier or in togc

  • @Chucboris
    @Chucboris Год назад

    Why don’t you pestilence before howling blast on AOE for the increased damage on the blast, is getting it on cd that important?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      I think either is probably fine but that is the idea

  • @7ay7ay7ay
    @7ay7ay7ay Год назад +2

    what do u think about the desync rotation?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      The desync rotation is good on paper but difficult to execute in practice and is not worth in my opinion

  • @hunterthedon19
    @hunterthedon19 Год назад +1

    Is frost dk really suppose to macro rune strike into all of your abilitys? I was told it was a net dps loss because its overall less frost strikes but im not sure

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      If you check out the % weapon damage that Rune Strike does compared to its runic power cost, you will see why its worth :-). It doesn't scale with a lot of our talents but 20 RP for 150% weapon damage is worth

    • @abengers1990
      @abengers1990 Год назад

      @@ValaeDK what about for blood tanking spec, do we macro rune strike to every ability also?

  • @barskangotan1229
    @barskangotan1229 Год назад +1

    Which is good weakauras for frost dk? Can you help?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      You can download my weakaura package on my discord

  • @g3rlach855
    @g3rlach855 Год назад

    Wouldn't it be better to use one Frost Strike after Obliterate and right before the first Pestilence in the Opener?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Adding too much extra globals can result in disease falling if you are ublucky but I think in a perfect example you are corrext

  • @alexhk14
    @alexhk14 Год назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @LeBronJames-zd1zf
    @LeBronJames-zd1zf Год назад +1

    I have a question, Circle of death > Greatring of Collision? Why's that?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      There are few rings available with strength and they do have a nice benefit of being affected by the strength modifiers. I personally prefer the expertise but greatring of collision probably is better in an optimal case

    • @LeBronJames-zd1zf
      @LeBronJames-zd1zf Год назад

      @@ValaeDK Seems reasonable enough. I was just wondering if there was something that I wasn't aware of. Cheers mate.

  • @Skyprey
    @Skyprey Год назад

    I would love a rotation video on a target dummy.
    Sounds like we Hardly use Frost strike.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Check the rotation section. You should fill with frost strike whenever possible

  • @Bruzak1485
    @Bruzak1485 Год назад +1

    Why does this guy not have 200k followers?

  • @JohnSmith-ry8tj
    @JohnSmith-ry8tj Год назад +1

    why is Angry Dread a better choice over Last Laugh? we get a ton of dmg from auto attacks and LL just flat out has much higher dps. Has anyone actually parsed this or are people just assuming someone has because everyone lists AD as the weapon of choice? I'd like to see some actual stats as opposed to " feel facts"

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Read the talent might of morgraine. Our abilities are based on top end and slow weapons have higher topends. Last laugh would be worse then the 10 man weapon because of this

    • @JohnSmith-ry8tj
      @JohnSmith-ry8tj Год назад +1

      @@ValaeDK Ill be happy to read all the talents, while I do that can you read your own logs? see how much dmg your basic attacks account for and then adjust for another +20 dps from your weapons. deal?

    • @jvqs55
      @jvqs55 Год назад

      @@JohnSmith-ry8tj Just ignorant and disrespectful without need, but i'll explain to ur dumb ass. Obliterates will hit like wet noodles with fast weapons, LL is good for UH morb because they don't use scourge strike, making the weapon dmg worth it.

    • @JohnSmith-ry8tj
      @JohnSmith-ry8tj Год назад +1

      @@jvqs55 Le sigh..... look at your own logs if you play frost. Oblits account for roughly 25-28% of your total dmg. Now look at the number of casts, now compare to number of regular attacks and amount of total dmg done by regular attacks. wow more attacks and more dmg from regular attacks! Yes, your Oblit dmg will go down by using faster weapons but your regular attack dmg will go up by more. In total you do more dmg.

  • @styltbralla162
    @styltbralla162 Год назад

    if you only get 42 strenght extra from jc couldnt you just have ench then where you get +40 ap per ring?

    • @detox2931
      @detox2931 Год назад

      Strength > AP when you consider the bonus strength DKs get from talents, and the 20% increase in strength we get from UBA as frost

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Like a previous commenter said strength is better then AP cause of kings and talents

  • @Fefko13
    @Fefko13 Год назад +9

    61 sec before pull Indestructible, 1 sec before pull haste, after 1 min another haste into exec. Triple pot brother.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      If the fight is around 1:15 this will be worth it. If the fight is >1:30 its likely that the extra AP during this will outweigh the 3rd potions benefit. If the fight is

    • @MikeHawkPEN15
      @MikeHawkPEN15 Год назад +1

      Oh shit, you must be rank 1 or 2 giving the rank 3 king advice. Oh... you're not.

    • @deadzeddicious3684
      @deadzeddicious3684 Год назад +2

      @@MikeHawkPEN15 Bro there's not much difference between 90%-100% parses. The difference is RNG, and CD feeding just to parse.

    • @vishny1130
      @vishny1130 Год назад +1

      @@deadzeddicious3684 I feel like the difference between 99-100 is how many uh dks you have in the raid lol

    • @MikeHawkPEN15
      @MikeHawkPEN15 Год назад

      @@deadzeddicious3684 then be 100% stop with excuses

  • @DarkkrowRogue
    @DarkkrowRogue Год назад +1

    Do we, as a frost dk, ever use the Army of the Dead?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      As subblood use army of the dead before the fight if its off cooldown (~10 seconds on pull timer).

  • @SadisticStang
    @SadisticStang Год назад +1

    In aoe packs that will stay alive a while I spread diseases then Howling and follow up with Bloodstrike. I don't understand why persons avoid it. It will do noticeable damage and the one spent blood rune is easily recovered

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Blood striking is good to get another death rune. I should have mentioned this.

  • @darjanrendulic5192
    @darjanrendulic5192 Год назад

    With this gear that you showed,I get 6.83% hit (234) how can I get 8-10% that you are saying we should have?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад +1

      Check the spell tab for your spell hit

  • @andersonhipocreme822
    @andersonhipocreme822 Год назад +1

    16:49 Ice Touch crits doesnt proc rime, just obliterate can proc rime

  • @Bruzak1485
    @Bruzak1485 Год назад +1

    Please do an unholy dk vid

  • @Romstine
    @Romstine Год назад +1

    I'm playing enh shaman but you just made me wanna have a frost DK for my alt :D

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      best class OFC! enhance shaman seems like a lot of fun too

  • @captinsprinkle7795
    @captinsprinkle7795 Год назад

    Does the same rotation apply to sub/uh spec?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      The rotation is similar but includes a triple obliterate using your death runes. I will make a video on that rotation when it's more relevant

  • @danielsundberg1042
    @danielsundberg1042 Год назад +1

    AotD prepull right?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      yea about 10 seconds on the pull timer

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад +1

    16:45 that's false , only your Obliterates have a 15% chance to proc Rime , not '' your icy touch or obliterates'

  • @robh316
    @robh316 Год назад

    With all the armour pen gear blood DK DPS is still viable

  • @CG-vn8iy
    @CG-vn8iy Год назад

    I'm stunned people still play.

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

    22:09 another *advance tip* that you should utilize especially in scenarios as showen in the video is to pop AMS + DnD even on ST since you are going to overcap on runic power you want to dump those into Frost Strikes asap which is fine since you just used DnD+ 1 set of runs which lines up perfectly + you re doing free dmg by just using 1 gcd ( dnd)
    instead of casting 1x Obli+ overcapping on alot of Runic power.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Obliterate does way more damage then DND, you do not want to do this.

  • @Justin928
    @Justin928 Год назад

    So you never cast blood boil in aoe rotation correct?

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      Sometimes it's good to cast it if having a death rune will not be beneficial to you or there will be a decent amount of time before you use these runes again

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

    24:00 binding rune strike is good but not in all abiltieis such as Frost strike which still needs rp to be casted , its not a dps gain to lose on a KM FS proc becasue its macroed into a rune strike and therefore rune strike instead of spending the rp on a KM FS .

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      This is simply not true. Check the threat of thaurissan talent if you are curious why Rune Strike is still better then frost strike

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

    19:24 you are forgetting your talent : Tundra Stalker , which is why it makes 0 to use Howling blast and then pesti , it should be the other way around that way your Howling blast benefit of the 15% + dmg to infected targets with Frost Fever.

    • @ValaeDK
      @ValaeDK  Год назад

      No, I clearly mention this talent. Feel free to rewatch this section.

  • @GTFOIMAO
    @GTFOIMAO Год назад

    Str is 2.9 buddy not 2 :D

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад

    1:38 Blood caked blood does approx 1 % per point so idk where the 5% come from you would usually be around 2-3% with that depending how luck you get. Also BCB basically a 3% st dmg talent has nothing to do why you actually transition to sub unh spec , its just an addition and well spent talent point since you benefit rougly 1% per 1 talent point spent. 2:34 '' the 20% auto dmg doesnt do much'' it literally does more or equal to BcB per talent point spent yet it receives less recognition than bcb ?

  • @cypherpunk6417
    @cypherpunk6417 Год назад

    This guide is way too sweaty for my taste lol.