Nathan, you can't really choose who your neighbors are going to be in life. I only wish I could have one like you, honest and a God fearing man. Thank you for all your knowledge. Blessings Bill
Being I am 84 yr old/ 100% disabled. I like to watch RUclips for MY entertainment. It is your sawmill, your wood and your business, if I tire of something that you are showing I just move on to something that interest me. I don't have the funds to sign on to patrion but I am seeing where vidio providers are pushing that as part of a business modie and I respect them all for their effort. I only wish that more people like myself would keep their noses in there own business and respect your opinion, as it is not a mandate to change the way you are work the videos.
Nathan it's very uncommon for a person to acknowledge that they may be wrong. It's part of the reason that we enjoy your channel so much! You are very honest and humble. Keep on just being you. Thanks for sharing your story with us. God Bless you and yours!!
Love making do with anything you have on hand. Remember you hauling logs with the ATV and hand loading them on your old trailer by hand not so long ago. Proud of what you have accomplished Nathan Elliott 🤠🇺🇸
I love quartersawn sycamore: I made all of the trim in my custom kitchen from it! BTW sycamore is known as buttonwood in my area of the US (New Jersey) as it was historically used for small wood pieces (ie wooden clothing buttons) just because of its propensity to distort while drying.
My wife and I enjoy watching your content. It would probably be helpful to some folks if occasionally you took a lumber crayon and mark the end of the log with the layout of a particular cut, such as quarter sawn. Fall colors look beautiful. Thank You Sir.
When Pop built our new house in 1960, he used sycamore for the floor joists and sub flooring. It was still in excellent condition when I sold the home place in 2003.
Your comment about the "rainbow" color of popular reminded me of a thousand or more board feet of popular lumber that a friend gave me many years ago. The popular came out of the woods in southern Mississippi. The overwhelming color of the popular was dark causing me to believe the tree grew in soil rich with the mineral causing the dark colors. I used that popular to build the cabinets in my woodworking shop, which are still there today. I used the vast majority as drawer sides and internal structural pieces of various pieces of fine furniture being build through the years.
Nathan we definitely enjoy watching your channel. It never gets old and it’s always interesting. You make an old junky looking log into some beautiful lumber. Keep on keepin on!👍❤️
Back in the early 1970's when that tractor was built, International Harvester had British Formula One race car driver Jackie Stewart make an ad for them. He drove the tractor and talked about how well it handled and shifted. Thanks for the video
Sycamore: CUT TURNING BLANKS! Rip the sycamore in half lengthwise, then just chop (square +2-4”) blanks out of each half. If log is over 12”, go ahead and rip some quarter sawn slabs from the pith side, 2” or better thick, cut into blanks. Leave the bark if tight, or leave the debarked raw outside without trimming. Bark-on or natural edge blanks are hard to come by and very desirable, especially sycamore!!!
We had an old sycamore tree in our woods that had the top blown out of it years ago. The 30 tall stub stood there for several years, it was so twisted that it looked like a candy cane. I've got a picture of it somewhere...
Thanks for sharing with us Nathan, sure enjoy watching you work around there. That's some mighty fine lumber you are milling out of the Sycamore tree you were given. Stay safe and keep up the great work around there. Fred.
If I remember correctly, one of the uses of sycamore back in the day was as the heads in wood golf clubs. Also had a wooden barreled ball point pen made of sycamore, gorgeous wood grain and heavy and tough!
Nathan- Are you sure you are getting power back to your trailer plug to charge your battery? They tend to put all the wiring in but leave it disconnected up at the battery end. If you look around up on the drivers side by or on the fuse block there is a power stud and if you look around you may find the end of a wire that goes to it to supply the power to the trailer plug. If you can't find it I would check with your Chevy dealer to be sure.
Great music, Lovely logs, Beautiful boards and the country there is picture post card perfect! And about those slabs? Just kidding! Thanks Nathan, Many Blessings and Keep on Misering on! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Nathan, good practice when jumping batteries is to have your vehicle running so your battery doesn’t get drained out. I know you have 2 batteries on board so shouldn’t cause an issue in this case but I have in a previous career (military) had lots of call outs to attend flat batteries and it’s a habit that won’t die.
yes you have it right about nominal / actual. I work for a company putting in manholes vaults they used nominal lumber for the forms it was OK for the job they were doing but would make strong but not flat walls. I wondered about the higher price for the nominal but was told that they took up more space in shipping the s4s lumber for building lumber. No 2 were actually the same dimensions either. but all bigger the s4s 2x4.
Nathan i really enjoy watching your videos your just a good ol country boy doing what he enjoys. I'm disabled from a work injury and living on a very fixed income i would like to subscribe to your patreon but i don't have $5 extra dollars living with this current administration in Washington has made life very difficult but I'm thankful for what I have. May God bless you and your family and business 🙏
I'm pretty sure what you were sawing there were actual size 2x4's. It was always drilled into my head that nominal means "in name only" so 2x4 nominal would be 1.5x3.5.
Hey Nathan, just something I noticed. I have a bad back and seeing you bend over to stack that lumber made cringe some. If I may suggest, why not have Mr. Kato hold that entire partial pallet up at table level and just slide the lumber off and stack it without bending over? That rainbow Poplar sure is pretty btw. Take care!
Nominal: of a quantity or dimension, especially of manufactured articles) stated or expressed but not necessarily corresponding exactly to the real value. So Nominal is 3-1/2 x 1-1/2 and Actual is 2x4.
Is there a reason that when stacking the boards, you place the boards closest to the saw and continue toward the back. It seems to me that if you start stacking farthest away and work toward the closest to you. Of course I am not a sawyer and there is a method to stacking your way.
I'm not upset about it Nathan, but it's the other way around: The word "Nominal" is the particular context would be relating to a designated or theoretical size that may vary from the actual (its approximate). The video is not nominally great it's actually great with a big actual thumbs up.
from the NHLA grading book, they write the rules on grading lumber: Nominal measurements traditionally refer to the size of the board when it was first rough cut, before it was dried and planed (smoothed)
@@OutoftheWoods0623 Well now that is interesting. I suppose the NHLA folks look at it from the point of view that rough cut lumber is nominal (approximate) until it is dried and planed and therefore will not change in dimension and be an actual dimension. Perhaps when 2x lumber was first cut it was cut to a nominal dimension of 2" x 4", then when dried and planed the actual dimension turned out to be 1- 3/8" x 3-3/8". Ok Nathan you were kind enough to let me have my BLT with Miracal Whip so I will yield to the NHLA guidelines. It still remains a great video, thumbs up.
I wish you were near me. My neighbor has a Black Walnut to take down and I get the wood. I’m not going to use it but what size would be the most useful.the log is about 30 in. I’ll get the roots for bowls and pepper and salt grinders"
Nathan I have a question. With all that equipment you have out in the open now, how do you keep people from pulling up and stealing it all from you? I know it would be very difficult to steal an excavator or track loader, but couldn’t they pack up your sawmill and ride off with it? People are crazy these days as I’m sure we’re all well aware.
You have nominal and actual size backwards. Nominal size is the net size of after drying and planing. Actual size with what your ruler or tape measure reads.
Nope. NHLA says otherwise The simple answer is the nominal measurements were derived from a board’s size before it has been dried and planed smooth (surfaced) on all 4 sides. The actual measurements are the final dried and surfaced size
I notice you use 7 or 8 stickers between layers of boards in the unit of lumber you are preparing for the kiln. Seems excessive. Back in the day (early '70s) I worked for Arcata Redwood Co. (CA) in their remanufacturing mill, handling redwood lumber of all dimensions sent from the sawmill. We never used more than 5 stickers when making up units for the kilns. I realize you are a persnickety guy about how you do things, but why waste the time and materials by over-stickering your lumber? Perhaps you have a reason that I am missing? I"d love to hear about it. Love your videos - keep up the good work.
Please get some standards on those forks or a cage around the operator on that tractor. I'm not a safety police. I lost a cousin back in the late 70's doing just what your friend was doing. He was loading some logs on a trailer and some how it came over the back of the forks and he was dead in a heartbeat.
Nathan, you are totally backwards about actual and nominal size. Commercial lumber is in nominal sizes. It means that 2x4 is its Name ( from the Latin nomos) not its actual size, which is 1 1/2"x 3 1/2". If you are actually cutting full 2"x4" lumber its name and its actual size are the same. This is simply logical.
I’m sure people know what I mean 😂👍 The simple answer is the nominal measurements were derived from a board’s size before it has been dried and planed smooth (surfaced) on all 4 sides. The actual measurements are the final dried and surfaced size Per NHLA
Just because she has got a few years on her don't mean that is useless. By7mther way you can get a solar charger at ant auto parts store for around $20 or so.
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Nathan, you can't really choose who your neighbors are going to be in life. I only wish I could have one like you, honest and a God fearing man. Thank you for all your knowledge. Blessings
Bill
Being I am 84 yr old/ 100% disabled. I like to watch RUclips for MY entertainment. It is your sawmill, your wood and your business, if I tire of something that you are showing I just move on to something that interest me. I don't have the funds to sign on to patrion but I am seeing where vidio providers are pushing that as part of a business modie and I respect them all for their effort. I only wish that more people like myself would keep their noses in there own business and respect your opinion, as it is not a mandate to change the way you are work the videos.
Nathan it's very uncommon for a person to acknowledge that they may be wrong. It's part of the reason that we enjoy your channel so much! You are very honest and humble. Keep on just being you. Thanks for sharing your story with us. God Bless you and yours!!
Unless their wife is standing there then you're wrong all of the time
Nathan, you make it all look easy
Nathan,as usual always a pleasure watching you on your sawmill with awesome looking 👀 lumber 🪵 😮😊❤
You have a really nice set up in your wood mill…fun to watch you work
Love making do with anything you have on hand. Remember you hauling logs with the ATV and hand loading them on your old trailer by hand not so long ago. Proud of what you have accomplished Nathan Elliott 🤠🇺🇸
thanks Brian, appreciate it,
did you not get the early release notification?
I love quartersawn sycamore: I made all of the trim in my custom kitchen from it! BTW sycamore is known as buttonwood in my area of the US (New Jersey) as it was historically used for small wood pieces (ie wooden clothing buttons) just because of its propensity to distort while drying.
My wife and I enjoy watching your content. It would probably be helpful to some folks if occasionally you took a lumber crayon and mark the end of the log with the layout of a particular cut, such as quarter sawn. Fall colors look beautiful. Thank You Sir.
When Pop built our new house in 1960, he used sycamore for the floor joists and sub flooring. It was still in excellent condition when I sold the home place in 2003.
Nice to see you sawing again.
At my sawmill, it's called rough cut, and store bought .😊
Your comment about the "rainbow" color of popular reminded me of a thousand or more board feet of popular lumber that a friend gave me many years ago. The popular came out of the woods in southern Mississippi. The overwhelming color of the popular was dark causing me to believe the tree grew in soil rich with the mineral causing the dark colors. I used that popular to build the cabinets in my woodworking shop, which are still there today. I used the vast majority as drawer sides and internal structural pieces of various pieces of fine furniture being build through the years.
I was interested to see what you would build the pilot from and to see the colored boards when they were done
Nathan - get that dust collection system on your machine!
Nathan we definitely enjoy watching your channel. It never gets old and it’s always interesting. You make an old junky looking log into some beautiful lumber. Keep on keepin on!👍❤️
I appreciate that!
Back in the early 1970's when that tractor was built, International Harvester had British Formula One race car driver Jackie Stewart make an ad for them. He drove the tractor and talked about how well it handled and shifted.
Thanks for the video
i will work there,nice work cowboy with his toys❤blessing.
Thanks for watching! 👍
very nice and well-done video editing Nathan.
Thank you very much!
Sycamore: CUT TURNING BLANKS!
Rip the sycamore in half lengthwise, then just chop (square +2-4”) blanks out of each half. If log is over 12”, go ahead and rip some quarter sawn slabs from the pith side, 2” or better thick, cut into blanks. Leave the bark if tight, or leave the debarked raw outside without trimming. Bark-on or natural edge blanks are hard to come by and very desirable, especially sycamore!!!
👍👍
@@OutoftheWoods0623I second the request for turning blanks!
Lol! We use 4020s with loaders all the time. Pulling out road tractors with trailers, running grain augers Etc.
@@paulprigge1209 4020 is one of the finest tractors ever made. We had one, diesel with power shift, I loved it.
Good evening I just enjoy listening to your voice it's so relaying all the best Stewart from the uk
Thanks for listening
We had an old sycamore tree in our woods that had the top blown out of it years ago. The 30 tall stub stood there for several years, it was so twisted that it looked like a candy cane. I've got a picture of it somewhere...
Thanks for sharing with us Nathan, sure enjoy watching you work around there. That's some mighty fine lumber you are milling out of the Sycamore tree you were given. Stay safe and keep up the great work around there. Fred.
If I remember correctly, one of the uses of sycamore back in the day was as the heads in wood golf clubs. Also had a wooden barreled ball point pen made of sycamore, gorgeous wood grain and heavy and tough!
So nice to have the equipment you need to get the job done well and productively.
Nathan- Are you sure you are getting power back to your trailer plug to charge your battery? They tend to put all the wiring in but leave it disconnected up at the battery end. If you look around up on the drivers side by or on the fuse block there is a power stud and if you look around you may find the end of a wire that goes to it to supply the power to the trailer plug. If you can't find it I would check with your Chevy dealer to be sure.
illl check that out,
Great music, Lovely logs, Beautiful boards and the country there is picture post card perfect! And about those slabs? Just kidding! Thanks Nathan, Many Blessings and Keep on Misering on! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Cheers from here, DaveyJO!
Enjoyed the video Nathan!
nice job ty
We enjoyed your video today! Keep them coming!❤
Nathan, good practice when jumping batteries is to have your vehicle running so your battery doesn’t get drained out. I know you have 2 batteries on board so shouldn’t cause an issue in this case but I have in a previous career (military) had lots of call outs to attend flat batteries and it’s a habit that won’t die.
yes you have it right about nominal / actual.
I work for a company putting in manholes vaults they used nominal lumber for the forms it was OK for the job they were doing but would make strong but not flat walls. I wondered about the higher price for the nominal but was told that they took up more space in shipping the s4s lumber for building lumber. No 2 were actually the same dimensions either. but all bigger the s4s 2x4.
I only have two words to say, great video
Sycamore makes good turning blanks, both spindle and bowl blanks. When you make firewood you are wasting a lot.
You have beautiful fall colors going on.
It’s the best time of year 👍
Nathan, your new camera is fantastic! Crystal clear image. Thanks.
Hey Nathan, I’ve got a suggestion for a OTW t-shirt:
“There’s no way around it…that’s just the way it is!”
So many to choose from 😊
I used to work with a tractor like the one in first part of the video they are great tractors
They are built to last 👍
👍. Nice work,informative, fun to watch your channel
love that ballast, the hydroicks got to be screaming
Nathan i really enjoy watching your videos your just a good ol country boy doing what he enjoys. I'm disabled from a work injury and living on a very fixed income i would like to subscribe to your patreon but i don't have $5 extra dollars living with this current administration in Washington has made life very difficult but I'm thankful for what I have. May God bless you and your family and business 🙏
With as many logs that you have on the ground looks like you need to do some lumber milling soon.
Hi Nathan. That sure looks like poison ivy on that big log. Be careful with that stuff and do NOT burn it. Keep on sawing!
MM77 Approved 👍🏼 👍🏼
Appreciate that 👍
God I love east Tennessee!! (8:40 min)🙂
I’d love to see how you build that pallet. I’m starting to cut some wood and always looking for better ways to stack and sticker it.
next video
Nice sawing 👍
Thanks 👍
Sycamore looks totally different here in Ontario Canada it has more of a white and gray bark
Think of Nominal size as another term for approximate size. Easy.
you are there we don't need to tell you how LOL butt. your new setup is looking good. its to be proud of
Nathan, Mr Google says you are quite correct in relation to nominal and actual size timber. Nominal is prior to planing etc.
Thx
You betcha! 👍
nominal means "in name only." e.g. someone sells you what they call a "2x4" that is actually barely a 1.5x3, but charge you full price.
Make bowl blanks out of the knotty sycamore
Good plan 👍👍
I'm pretty sure what you were sawing there were actual size 2x4's. It was always drilled into my head that nominal means "in name only" so 2x4 nominal would be 1.5x3.5.
right in my back door!!!
One of my loader tractors is 44 years old, it will match the output of any current gear tractor, where 4 wheel drive is unnecessary.
Watching that log turn over reminds me of how I turn over at night when I'm sleeping.
At least it’s not a John Deere so keep on keeping on! 😂👍
Your new intro at the top with Out of the Woods, could have said and Into the Yard. 😂 Timing, I come up with some nonsense at times.
I sure hope all those vines on that sycamore butt log are Virginia creeper and not poison ivy.
Nominal v Actual ----you got it correct !!
nominally speaking, I think your dad is a lucky man, to have you for a son.
Hi! Where do you sell the boards?
Good nominal video! 😂
Thanks 😅
Hey Nathan, just something I noticed. I have a bad back and seeing you bend over to stack that lumber made cringe some. If I may suggest, why not have Mr. Kato hold that entire partial pallet up at table level and just slide the lumber off and stack it without bending over? That rainbow Poplar sure is pretty btw. Take care!
Just shared this video with my nephew and now I can't restart the video 😮
what is the black device that hangs on the arm on the same side as the wood mizer logo for?
Nominal: of a quantity or dimension, especially of manufactured articles) stated or expressed but not necessarily corresponding exactly to the real value.
So Nominal is 3-1/2 x 1-1/2 and Actual is 2x4.
i like thar counter weights
How often do you sharpen the edger blades?
Haven’t had to yet
Watch out for those hairy looking vines on those logs, that's poison ivy.
Is there a reason that when stacking the boards, you place the boards closest to the saw and continue toward the back. It seems to me that if you start stacking farthest away and work toward the closest to you. Of course I am not a sawyer and there is a method to stacking your way.
I'm not upset about it Nathan, but it's the other way around: The word "Nominal" is the particular context would be relating to a designated or theoretical size that may vary from the actual (its approximate). The video is not nominally great it's actually great with a big actual thumbs up.
from the NHLA grading book, they write the rules on grading lumber:
Nominal measurements traditionally refer to the size of the board when it was first rough cut, before it was dried and planed (smoothed)
@@OutoftheWoods0623 Well now that is interesting. I suppose the NHLA folks look at it from the point of view that rough cut lumber is nominal (approximate) until it is dried and planed and therefore will not change in dimension and be an actual dimension. Perhaps when 2x lumber was first cut it was cut to a nominal dimension of 2" x 4", then when dried and planed the actual dimension turned out to be 1- 3/8" x 3-3/8". Ok Nathan you were kind enough to let me have my BLT with Miracal Whip so I will yield to the NHLA guidelines. It still remains a great video, thumbs up.
Deal
Makes me feel so good when you make mistakes like that because I know everything about nothing 😂
Could u mark tree date with grease pen?
Not sure
@@OutoftheWoods0623 ive used grease pens to mark drums of hazwaste…
Did you pay extra for the Vines?
bonus!
It's not worth the aggravation to worry if you're using the correct description. Some people just have too much time on their hands.
Bill
Nominal = Initial
Actual = Final
..... backwards .....
There’s your rainbow
what is quarter sawing ?
I wish you were near me. My neighbor has a Black Walnut to take down and I get the wood. I’m not going to use it but what size would be the most useful.the log is about 30 in. I’ll get the roots for bowls and pepper and salt grinders"
Don't underestimate old equipment (I know you don't) Hydraulics get the job done old or new.
Where do you keep the money trees on your farm? LOL
Nathan I have a question. With all that equipment you have out in the open now, how do you keep people from pulling up and stealing it all from you? I know it would be very difficult to steal an excavator or track loader, but couldn’t they pack up your sawmill and ride off with it? People are crazy these days as I’m sure we’re all well aware.
i want you to show me how-to quarter sew a log . les England /.
I know they you sell bow blanks,,have you considered selling blanks for electric guitars??????
maybe one day,
Hi Nathan, another great video and great job, I always thought Sycamore was a smooth bark like the beech tree
Thanks! 👍
Oh yeah I forgot, Would you ever allow your viewers to send a sticker or magnet with from where they are watching
😄👍
You have nominal and actual size backwards. Nominal size is the net size of after drying and planing. Actual size with what your ruler or tape measure reads.
Nope. NHLA says otherwise
The simple answer is the nominal measurements were derived from a board’s size before it has been dried and planed smooth (surfaced) on all 4 sides. The actual measurements are the final dried and surfaced size
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If it works, don’t fix it!
I notice you use 7 or 8 stickers between layers of boards in the unit of lumber you are preparing for the kiln. Seems excessive. Back in the day (early '70s) I worked for Arcata Redwood Co. (CA) in their remanufacturing mill, handling redwood lumber of all dimensions sent from the sawmill. We never used more than 5 stickers when making up units for the kilns. I realize you are a persnickety guy about how you do things, but why waste the time and materials by over-stickering your lumber? Perhaps you have a reason that I am missing? I"d love to hear about it. Love your videos - keep up the good work.
Please get some standards on those forks or a cage around the operator on that tractor.
I'm not a safety police. I lost a cousin back in the late 70's doing just what your friend was doing. He was loading some logs on a trailer and some how it came over the back of the forks and he was dead in a heartbeat.
Nathan, you are totally backwards about actual and nominal size. Commercial lumber is in nominal sizes. It means that 2x4 is its Name ( from the Latin nomos) not its actual size, which is 1 1/2"x 3 1/2". If you are actually cutting full 2"x4" lumber its name and its actual size are the same. This is simply logical.
I’m sure people know what I mean 😂👍
The simple answer is the nominal measurements were derived from a board’s size before it has been dried and planed smooth (surfaced) on all 4 sides. The actual measurements are the final dried and surfaced size
Per NHLA
Just because she has got a few years on her don't mean that is useless. By7mther way you can get a solar charger at ant auto parts store for around $20 or so.