I love that machine. I was in my early 20's (around 1980 when) my dad bought a brand new H-800. I remember going to the Insley dealership with him, and the salesman gave both me and my brother and Insley jackets. He gave dad a brass Insley pocket watch fob which I'm wearing right now. I gave it it's last repaint around 2001. I love those things.
lol, it was always a joke around the shop that you can always tell if it’s a Ford triton by the spark plug dents in the hood. I love that you save these old machines, they are still worth saving because they are so simple and repairable. No computer or related sensors and wiring to go bad, for a talented young man like yourself theirs nothing you can’t make or repair on this old equipment. This old man loves your channel, in my younger years I loved doing this kind of thing as well, nothing like the adrenaline rush of hearing something abandoned make noise again.
I really appreciate your patience with these older machines. Half the time people will not spend the time to maintain or appreciate them or anything that just might take a little work. I am very glad that you do, keep it up, we need people such as you. Thank you.
Love the work you do. These machines were built to run for like 300 years as long as the maintenance is done. These machines are superior to what they build now with all them electronics. Service it and it will make you a lifelong payday.
When the open exhaust was spitting embers and fire, shortly before you owned up to forgetting coolant . . . I think we were watching the head gasket make its exit.
As a guy who has worked on many Detroits I agree the liner is toast, it needs an engine rebuild, no way a Detroit should run like that. Speaking of Run, run Away man run away from it! I love to save stuff but this one NO
The fire will get it reposted all over.... and likely be the cause of plenty of kaching! So we get to see more. This guy has gotta catch up to the aereal platform lift fire on another channel..... when all the fire extinguishers failed. Nothing like a good OOPS.. never edit ourt the mistakes... they are paydirt!
People are very concerned that when a modern machine takes a dump, it needs to be repaired by someone with the proper factory software. This is becoming a huge problem because the owner doesn't have access and the dealer is typically months behind in service. Having a machine down that long can bankrupt a small company. This is an increasingly major problem and is driving people towards the old stuff you see here.
@@giggiddy recently at my work, we had a JCB Loadall ( telehandler) break down in the middle of our yard, fortunatly it was not in the way when it quite driving and wouldnt go into gear, the engine was switched off and a restart was attempted, but it said no, and spat out a bunch of fault codes on the dash. These where for no communication with the CANbus to the computor. the engineer fortunatly was able to diagnose and fix the problem pretty quickly when they arrived. which turned out to be some broken wires.
In the 70's I had a 6-73 Detroit that I had rebuilt. They reused the old fuel crossover pipes. The engine flooded out with fuel in the oil pan before I made it home with the truck. Check ALL the ends of the cross over pipes for small cracks at the flares. I enjoy watching you trouble shoot and digging in deep to fix issues. I hope you do go on with this one!
@@TugboatMatt Right it was a V 6-71 ...give me a break it was a long time ago and I'm in my 80's LOL Thanks for the correction. I do remember I was really pissed when I had the truck towed back to the shop !!
@@Lakesidearmorer lol no worries. I assumed it was a 71 series being a machine of this size but could have also been a 53 series. Great engines, I operate many of them in boats. Makes a lot of noise and could hear them a mile away. 😂
So if it is clean on the outside... it is out of oil ? Reminds me of my 1976 VW Rabbit. If the engine was not coughing or sputtering,... then the fuel system HAD to be clogged. Zenith 2B2 carb..... better ones can be found on old lawnmowers.
In frame overhaul kits are around for $1,200 to $1,600 depending on crank seals which you may have to buy separately. You can overhaul that old Insley engine and still have something if you want to so I wouldn't let the naysayers affect your judgment on whether it's worth doing as it was never a pipeline machine to begin with when it was new. Having a self propelled yard crane around for periodic use is worth a lot.
If you look at this slightly differently....they should be paying you to remove it and get rid of their problems....its going to take a lot of work and money to get this to where you can work on it and then a pot of cash and time to put it right. If you are willing to invest like that, there will be many other older machines that don't have so many issues that are easier to move. I'd walk away unless they pay you to get ri of it.
Oh I've had that same thought, and I completely agree... this is a project that will cost quite a bit of time and money, but excavators hold their value, and are ALWAYS useful in working order... I made a heck of a deal based on the fact that it WILL cost them a ton to get rid of it! Plus I get to rescue a machine that is pretty uncommon, and 100% OVERBUILT in AMERICA with not a single computer and almost NO electronics on it! With a little work this machine will out last me, and my children with very little maintenance... Plus, I like saving these odd ducks! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said, and had those exact thoughts many times myself, we'll just have to see where it goes! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
I watch tons of these will it run videos and it amazes me how old Diesel engines that have sat for decades, full of water, animals and got knows what else fire up with basic cleaning, lubing and maintenance.
I enjoy these long format videos. I'm excited for part II. I like the "can do" attitude. I like the idea of spending time and effort instead of spending money. If you end up with a working powerful excavator for little money, that's a return on your investment.
As a lover of old iron big and small, this is one of those that is going to cost a lot of blood sweat and tears, and cash, but if you walk away you will always regret doing so. No one can say it, you have to make that call and do what makes you happy. They sure don't make them like that any more, though. That thing looks beefy and could do some real work in its day.
One good thing about the diesel in the oil is that diesel being a detergent the inside of the engine should be very clean, compared to if it had water in it. As to the smoke problem, Detroit's are loud and its hard to hear if it is running on al cylinders, maybe one is not firing and hence all the smoke/atomized diesel if its diesel smelling.
the cylinder with the broken webs in the transfer ports is likely not running and possibly the reason it was parked in the first place. yes the engine needs a rebuild...
If the purchase price is not huge this would be a great project...can't wait for part 2 :) @1:12:21 Umm...is that thing actually on fire right there? Yup...that's a fire! I did notice some sparks popping in the same area the fire started while cranking. @1:24:25 Eviction day!!
Over on scrappy industries he had a Detroit engine like yours he kept spraying lubricant in the ports like you did,and he heated the cylinders and it finally freed up. Hope you get it going looks really good for a older machine.
I think so too Mike! It's definitely going to need some work, but I don't think there's been a machine that I've drug home that didn't? Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
@@SalvageWorkshopgood. Machine exel YT content. Some power wash fluids new seat glass you got a second hand rig capable of whatever you throw at it....used buckets around tooo😅😅
@@SalvageWorkshop Don;t forget a complete paint job, decal package and such..... once the thing stops jetting diesel fuel and is running..... it is like a marble stature.... just remove what does not belong there..... and in this case..... add in what is missing!
Considering safety probably wasnt a huge thing back in this era, I imagine the purpose of the clutch is simply to reduce load on the engine to help with starting? Cool old machine, seems simple enough to get up and running again
You could have a real gem there, or adversely a very deep pit. Whatever, we don't come to watch you fail and that is why your channel is so engrossing. Thanks.
JCB and Hymac were the first companies to build 360 degree fully hydrualic excavators. Being British, they had the cabs on the right. For a while.before switching to cab on the left.
GO FOR IT!! NEW excavators are high 6 figures. or MORE! Lots of good future content for the channel. NW Hill Billy is doing a COMPLETE restoration of his excavator. Tracks up!!
Nice Machine Matt…lots of thorny problems, but seems like a decent machine and no expensive electronic modules to replace. Ultimately, great content. 😊😊
Great vlog, interesting to follow your troubleshooting process. This machine has good bones for its age but it depends on how much you want to outlay to get it right and how much return it will give you when finished. I’m sure, whichever way you go, it will be the right del for you. Well done.
If you take a boat gas bubble and put it on the return fuel line and pump it so it has suction on it, it will pull all the air through the system and it will fire right up, me and my dad use to do it all the time, even more so with Detroit diesel engines just keep the suction on it and it will crank right up. Love watching your channel brings back lots of memories 🎉🎉😊😊
Bro cylinder 3 left the group chat in spectacular fashion. Probably blew the injector tip and they kept running it. There's your fuel in the basement. - No charge!
I have watched a number of your videos and always amazed at what you are able to accomplish, but I have to say I was mesmerized watching you on this project ( and I know there is a part 2). Incredible. Keep it up
The missing compression ring and chunks broken out of the intake port on the cylinder liner of the same cylinder would give me pause. I'd remove it for a price but I wouldn't pay one thin dime for that machine.
With all that flame in the exhaust, I’d say it’s too much fuel instead of too little. One nice thing about an old Detroit, they are relatively simple engines and very easy to work on. I’m no diesel mechanic, but I’m sure even I could rebuild a Detroit! Insley has a long history in construction equipment going back to the days of the old drag lines. Definitely well built machines.
Awsome video again, looking forward to watching part 2 really gives me the itch to wanna go out and find some old machine and just tinker with it and fix it up
As soon as you took the cover of the top of the engine, you had my full attention. When you showed a closer view, I was so excited because there was just enough rust to scare off people who don't want to put the time into cleaning that up..... which is ridiculous as the majority was surface rust and the rest was rust that fell down from the breather tube!!! The sparks and fire coming out of the exhaust is slightly warrying but my guess is that the enjecters are still spraying fuel into the cylinder AFTER the pistons have done the explody part of their cycle..... which isn't very good for anything!! 😅 Before seeing the "next in part 2" bit, I was willing you not to give up because that machine has so much potential. My next plan would have been to bring one of your other big machines down to muscle that digger onto a trailer, even if you had to do a second trip to collect the "muscle." 😂 At least you would have had it at the cave where all of your tools would have been on hand. That brings me onto the idea that you really need to get yourself a small lorry and equipment hauling trailer... even if you need to get a licence to drive it. The combo would give to sooooo many options for situations like this. I am REALLY looking forward to part 2!!!!! 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
i think that i have seen aii of your videos and you aiways find something to entertain me as well as teach .i have worked on cars ,bikes, motorcycles,boats ,plains ,just about everything you can think of except diesels no heavy equipment i have learned so much from watching your videos i feel like i could go out and fix and drive up on the trailor a truck and bring it home running, keep doing what you do
Stay the course, you will win the battle, and it may get frustrating, but it will be rewarding, she’s a good ole machine. Thanks for the video, enjoyed watching.
Think of it this way. This thing is a lot of videos and content for you to make for us all. You could spend a whole video on two to three items. I went through the same thing on a 2004 mini-ex, and I ended up needing to do muffler, swivel seals, rebuild the bottom track frame as it had rusted through. In the end It did a LOT of work for me and continues to work today.
@ respect! I seem to have suffered this way since childhood , if see a rusty stripped bolt I dig it outta the ground hold it up to the sky , close one eye and shout VINCENT MOTORCYCLE! 1954 . 😎I ended up with 54 two wheelers 47-2008, a heap of mostly ex military landrover s and 42 tonnes of bigger military stuff ( the tanks have gone ) I spend all my money on batteries and oil changes🌞like the channel keep em coming .this digger looks to be really well built and little abuse.great score and the learning journey is mostly fun.
If I remember correctly Funk Driveline (clutches) was purchased outright by John Deere back in the 90's. Keep working on the old girl, it makes for great video.
Your number 3 cylinder liner has chunks missing in the intake ports. It's the first thing i saw when you mentioned the top ring gone. There's no compression there. Another issue is that your blower was soaking wet with oil, needing an overhaul as well, likely re-sealing. Those vanes should be dry. Continuing to run it as-is is an accident waiting to happen. Hope this helps
It’s not firing in all four. Sounds like only two. May be injectors or pump. Also fix the throttle before the engine grenades. Other than that, it has potential.
If you watch the begining, where he has the side covers off, the ports on one of the liners are completely rusted out ... that piston and rings will be completley toasted.
Very interesting video! Love how you appreciate this good old American manufactured machine. If this were a newer plastic ecu machine, I would not be interested.
I think Insley built a pretty good machine, but suffered from distribution problems and a lot of foreign competition. Link-belt hired several of their top people when they were fading away…
@@johnmcdermott8523yes, that’s cylinder #3. The engine is self destructing. Could still be salvageable with a i frame kit or ideally a full overhaul. The engine will last forever if done properly. More he messes with it it’ll just cause more internal damage.
Me too! When I walked up to it, the owner told it would never run... he had MULTIPLE diesel mechanics tell him it junk and should be scrapped, so when I freed up the engine it was AWESOME! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
@@SalvageWorkshop From the professional mechanic assessment....they ARE right... it is not practical to spend 250.00/hour plus parts to have someone ELSE do it. But you are not running dirt with a schedule to complete, and you are doing a YooToob content-rich project..... so it is worth it, even if you end up doing an engine swap. This one is worth RESTORING, not just fixing... that is the armchair assessment from one locksmith!
I'm not a Detroit Diesel man, 50 years ago I removed a Detroit Diesel V8 engine out of a Michigan Front wheel Loader because of the enormous noise and horrible fuel economy. We replaced with a Leyland 1160 Engine and made since then almost 30K hours. Here in the Netherlands (and Europe), fuel Economy was already in the 70-ties a big issue. What I suggest is check the governor to keep the revs constant. The engine will then idle and doesn't die when touching the drive pedals. Keep up the good work.
I like your video's, I have been watching you for quite a while now and always look forward to the next one. You are very determined and tenacious. You're definitely not a quitter. You may not know everything but who does, it's that determination not to let anything stop you that gets the job done. Well done, keep up the good work. I am sure everyone that watches you is is full of admiration for the way you just keep going, even against the odds.
Was thinking the same and it must be frozen in the engaged position no matter handle position since before he stalled it boom went up a little n moved forward ever slightly before stalling out.he really needs to figure out why rack is not responding to throttle gov.
I think the machine is in v weed ry good shape for it's age. I do think the motor needs to be rebuilt. But a Detroit is very cheap to rebuild. And pretty sure cylinder #3 inspection cover showed the webbing broken on cylinder liner .... unless I saw it wrong
You know Adam, that makes sense... I'll have to check the dip stick to see if the oil level is getting more full just by sitting, or only when it runs... it could also be a crack in the head somewhere, because the fuel flows through it up into the valve cover and over to each injector.... I appreciate the thought, and the support, it means a lot!
I heard some noise that seem like a valve got stuck or an injector and then it started to miss so I think you're correct on but I've never worked on diesels I've just been watching the videos I have worked on vehicles gas engines Etc so just to the old ear I agree and thanks for pointing out what it really is
I buy older stuff my self and restore it. It work's so much better than the new computerized junk they're selling nowadays. At least when your done you will know what you have and it will last you another 40 years.
SAVE THAT MACHINE. The work it can do is immeasurable. I had 2 JD 792s and they were stupid strong and simple compared to later model excavators. I have saved a bunch of tracked machines and that one looks quite salvageable. Tracks look tight as a banjo hope you can loosen the tension so it can move. Try the group HCEA for old timers help.
Ol2Stroker lives, eats and breathes Detroit Diesels. Reach out, maybe he can help. Awesome video. The only thing that would make it better is if you rode up on a horse with all your tools in saddle bags.
Oh boy ! A horse !!! What are you going to do when it spits out a tooth ( or a spark plug ) for that matter ? Lol Keep on flogging that excavator ( 1/2 ) dead horse, but is it going to kill you ? Nope ! bro@SalvageWorkshop
Get a small Tupperware container. Cut a small hole in the side. Mix 1/2 corn bread (honey works best) with 1/2 baking soda. Put them around the edges of your shop ( they follow straight lines along the walls). I put them near the engines of my equipment as well. You will not have any more mouse problems all winter, or summer.
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I love that machine. I was in my early 20's (around 1980 when) my dad bought a brand new H-800. I remember going to the Insley dealership with him, and the salesman gave both me and my brother and Insley jackets. He gave dad a brass Insley pocket watch fob which I'm wearing right now. I gave it it's last repaint around 2001. I love those things.
I met Mr Insley when I was young, and he was in his nineties. He taught me how to play checkers.
lol, it was always a joke around the shop that you can always tell if it’s a Ford triton by the spark plug dents in the hood. I love that you save these old machines, they are still worth saving because they are so simple and repairable. No computer or related sensors and wiring to go bad, for a talented young man like yourself theirs nothing you can’t make or repair on this old equipment. This old man loves your channel, in my younger years I loved doing this kind of thing as well, nothing like the adrenaline rush of hearing something abandoned make noise again.
I really appreciate your patience with these older machines. Half the time people will not spend the time to maintain or appreciate them or anything that just might take a little work. I am very glad that you do, keep it up, we need people such as you. Thank you.
Love the work you do. These machines were built to run for like 300 years as long as the maintenance is done. These machines are superior to what they build now with all them electronics. Service it and it will make you a lifelong payday.
When the open exhaust was spitting embers and fire, shortly before you owned up to forgetting coolant . . . I think we were watching the head gasket make its exit.
Anything that you can save that doesn’t have a computer is worth saving Brother!
amen!
Ask ANY Modern John Deere Owner!
You looked at it I don't know how many times and missed it every time. The # 3 Liner is shot!
Ya it was toast already.
My comment exactly. I expect that injector tip is destroyed as well.
As a guy who has worked on many Detroits I agree the liner is toast, it needs an engine rebuild, no way a Detroit should run like that. Speaking of Run, run Away man run away from it! I love to save stuff but this one NO
anybody else start yelling for him to stop when they saw the fire ???!
yeah, me.
The fire will get it reposted all over.... and likely be the cause of plenty of kaching! So we get to see more. This guy has gotta catch up to the aereal platform lift fire on another channel..... when all the fire extinguishers failed. Nothing like a good OOPS.. never edit ourt the mistakes... they are paydirt!
Was I the only one who saw the sparks before the fire broke out?
@@tetedur377 yeah I seen that too, you could see the Sparking when he was turning her over, I was screaming like a banshee at the Screen 😂😂
Ya. This character is hilarious to put it politely. Idiot could be another description.
You've got me sold on it! Overbuilt, tons of access and no friggin' computers! This thing is what we wish we could buy new today.
Why? Modern excavators are better in almost any way. And if something breaks, you have the parts within hours.
People are very concerned that when a modern machine takes a dump, it needs to be repaired by someone with the proper factory software. This is becoming a huge problem because the owner doesn't have access and the dealer is typically months behind in service. Having a machine down that long can bankrupt a small company. This is an increasingly major problem and is driving people towards the old stuff you see here.
@@giggiddy recently at my work, we had a JCB Loadall ( telehandler) break down in the middle of our yard, fortunatly it was not in the way when it quite driving and wouldnt go into gear, the engine was switched off and a restart was attempted, but it said no, and spat out a bunch of fault codes on the dash. These where for no communication with the CANbus to the computor. the engineer fortunatly was able to diagnose and fix the problem pretty quickly when they arrived. which turned out to be some broken wires.
Wow. What a cliffhanger! Can’t wait for part two!
In the 70's I had a 6-73 Detroit that I had rebuilt. They reused the old fuel crossover pipes. The engine flooded out with fuel in the oil pan before I made it home with the truck. Check ALL the ends of the cross over pipes for small cracks at the flares. I enjoy watching you trouble shoot and digging in deep to fix issues. I hope you do go on with this one!
6-71 I think you meant.
@@TugboatMatt Right it was a V 6-71 ...give me a break it was a long time ago and I'm in my 80's LOL Thanks for the correction. I do remember I was really pissed when I had the truck towed back to the shop !!
@@Lakesidearmorer lol no worries. I assumed it was a 71 series being a machine of this size but could have also been a 53 series. Great engines, I operate many of them in boats. Makes a lot of noise and could hear them a mile away. 😂
@@TugboatMatt There were a pair of 4-53's in the Grade all that I had. Now that was a lot of noise!
Thanks!
An operating machine that big can do an incredible amount of work for the rest of its life.
As soon as you said Detroit Diesel you had me.. If a Detroit dosent leak or put oil everywhere there is none in it.
So if it is clean on the outside... it is out of oil ? Reminds me of my 1976 VW Rabbit. If the engine was not coughing or sputtering,... then the fuel system HAD to be clogged. Zenith 2B2 carb..... better ones can be found on old lawnmowers.
I'm ready for part two. Great video.
In frame overhaul kits are around for $1,200 to $1,600 depending on crank seals which you may have to buy separately. You can overhaul that old Insley engine and still have something if you want to so I wouldn't let the naysayers affect your judgment on whether it's worth doing as it was never a pipeline machine to begin with when it was new. Having a self propelled yard crane around for periodic use is worth a lot.
Thanks for reminding me... next installment from CEE is waiting for me to view this eve!
It sure makes me feel good when you even get these machines partly running. Thanks for the good times.
If you look at this slightly differently....they should be paying you to remove it and get rid of their problems....its going to take a lot of work and money to get this to where you can work on it and then a pot of cash and time to put it right. If you are willing to invest like that, there will be many other older machines that don't have so many issues that are easier to move. I'd walk away unless they pay you to get ri of it.
Oh I've had that same thought, and I completely agree... this is a project that will cost quite a bit of time and money, but excavators hold their value, and are ALWAYS useful in working order... I made a heck of a deal based on the fact that it WILL cost them a ton to get rid of it! Plus I get to rescue a machine that is pretty uncommon, and 100% OVERBUILT in AMERICA with not a single computer and almost NO electronics on it! With a little work this machine will out last me, and my children with very little maintenance... Plus, I like saving these odd ducks! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said, and had those exact thoughts many times myself, we'll just have to see where it goes! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Don't give up please save it. 😢
@@SalvageWorkshop See Farmcraft101's Large Marge project. Cut your loss and get something with less leaks than the Titanic!
Not so "Large Marge"....she needs saving!
They should give it to you for free. If you have the resources, hire a crane to load it on to a trailer.
I watch tons of these will it run videos and it amazes me how old Diesel engines that have sat for decades, full of water, animals and got knows what else fire up with basic cleaning, lubing and maintenance.
I enjoy these long format videos. I'm excited for part II.
I like the "can do" attitude. I like the idea of spending time and effort instead of spending money.
If you end up with a working powerful excavator for little money, that's a return on your investment.
As a lover of old iron big and small, this is one of those that is going to cost a lot of blood sweat and tears, and cash, but if you walk away you will always regret doing so. No one can say it, you have to make that call and do what makes you happy.
They sure don't make them like that any more, though. That thing looks beefy and could do some real work in its day.
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Stick with it this one’s a keeper! Thank you for sharing sir, I enjoy this channel immensely!
One good thing about the diesel in the oil is that diesel being a detergent the inside of the engine should be very clean, compared to if it had water in it. As to the smoke problem, Detroit's are loud and its hard to hear if it is running on al cylinders, maybe one is not firing and hence all the smoke/atomized diesel if its diesel smelling.
it was missing a top ring so less compression on the cylinder that's why it smokes
the cylinder with the broken webs in the transfer ports is likely not running and possibly the reason it was parked in the first place.
yes the engine needs a rebuild...
If the purchase price is not huge this would be a great project...can't wait for part 2 :)
@1:12:21 Umm...is that thing actually on fire right there? Yup...that's a fire! I did notice some sparks popping in the same area the fire started while cranking.
@1:24:25 Eviction day!!
I'd at least get them into a little something to safely bring them somewhere like a place that'll take them.
Over on scrappy industries he had a Detroit engine like yours he kept spraying lubricant in the ports like you did,and he heated the cylinders and it finally freed up. Hope you get it going looks really good for a older machine.
That is actually a really nice machine. I am glad you found it.
I think so too Mike! It's definitely going to need some work, but I don't think there's been a machine that I've drug home that didn't? Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
@@SalvageWorkshopgood. Machine exel YT content. Some power wash fluids new seat glass you got a second hand rig capable of whatever you throw at it....used buckets around tooo😅😅
@@SalvageWorkshop Don;t forget a complete paint job, decal package and such..... once the thing stops jetting diesel fuel and is running..... it is like a marble stature.... just remove what does not belong there..... and in this case..... add in what is missing!
These were beasts, hydraulics were 1/2cost to repair as the system is High Volume, low pressure, very productive and powerful in its day.
Knowing what you have accomplished on prior projects, I'm betting your bringing it home😊😊😊
Considering safety probably wasnt a huge thing back in this era, I imagine the purpose of the clutch is simply to reduce load on the engine to help with starting?
Cool old machine, seems simple enough to get up and running again
Yes especially at low temperatures.
Really good project , can't wait to see part 2 ... 😊
You could have a real gem there, or adversely a very deep pit. Whatever, we don't come to watch you fail and that is why your channel is so engrossing. Thanks.
Looking forward to part #2.
AWESOME! It'll be out soon!
Its weird that the cab is on the right side of the boom instead of the left, like on modern excavators! Great video!
Yeah that is a bit weird, and i had a few times it threw me off, but I'll get used to it!
it must be JDM right hand drive! lol
JCB and Hymac were the first companies to build 360 degree fully hydrualic excavators. Being British, they had the cabs on the right. For a while.before switching to cab on the left.
GO FOR IT!! NEW excavators are high 6 figures. or MORE! Lots of good future content for the channel. NW Hill Billy is doing a COMPLETE restoration of his excavator. Tracks up!!
Nice Machine Matt…lots of thorny problems, but seems like a decent machine and no expensive electronic modules to replace. Ultimately, great content. 😊😊
Great vlog, interesting to follow your troubleshooting process. This machine has good bones for its age but it depends on how much you want to outlay to get it right and how much return it will give you when finished. I’m sure, whichever way you go, it will be the right del for you. Well done.
If you take a boat gas bubble and put it on the return fuel line and pump it so it has suction on it, it will pull all the air through the system and it will fire right up, me and my dad use to do it all the time, even more so with Detroit diesel engines just keep the suction on it and it will crank right up. Love watching your channel brings back lots of memories 🎉🎉😊😊
Bro cylinder 3 left the group chat in spectacular fashion. Probably blew the injector tip and they kept running it. There's your fuel in the basement. - No charge!
I have watched a number of your videos and always amazed at what you are able to accomplish, but I have to say I was mesmerized watching you on this project ( and I know there is a part 2). Incredible. Keep it up
The missing compression ring and chunks broken out of the intake port on the cylinder liner of the same cylinder would give me pause.
I'd remove it for a price but I wouldn't pay one thin dime for that machine.
With all that flame in the exhaust, I’d say it’s too much fuel instead of too little. One nice thing about an old Detroit, they are relatively simple engines and very easy to work on. I’m no diesel mechanic, but I’m sure even I could rebuild a Detroit! Insley has a long history in construction equipment going back to the days of the old drag lines. Definitely well built machines.
OMG! Over 2 hrs of Salvage Workshop Goodness. 👍👍
LOL... Glad you enjoy the longer content! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
I CAN tell one cylinder is missing. Probably the piston without a top ring.
Like there's any other outcome from "I don't have to buy this machine" than this machine coming home with you :)
I KNOWWWWW.... The thought still crossed my mind more times than I could count!
@@SalvageWorkshop IT is a very cool machine. Will John Deere sell the mechanical parts for the clutch ?
Great video Matt. I admire your dedication and patience. Most people would have thrown in the towel Enjoyed watching 👍🏼👍🏼
You truly amaze me. Keep up the great work. In the end you be happy. Thank you for sharing 👌 😊
Awsome video again, looking forward to watching part 2 really gives me the itch to wanna go out and find some old machine and just tinker with it and fix it up
As soon as you took the cover of the top of the engine, you had my full attention. When you showed a closer view, I was so excited because there was just enough rust to scare off people who don't want to put the time into cleaning that up..... which is ridiculous as the majority was surface rust and the rest was rust that fell down from the breather tube!!! The sparks and fire coming out of the exhaust is slightly warrying but my guess is that the enjecters are still spraying fuel into the cylinder AFTER the pistons have done the explody part of their cycle..... which isn't very good for anything!! 😅 Before seeing the "next in part 2" bit, I was willing you not to give up because that machine has so much potential. My next plan would have been to bring one of your other big machines down to muscle that digger onto a trailer, even if you had to do a second trip to collect the "muscle." 😂 At least you would have had it at the cave where all of your tools would have been on hand.
That brings me onto the idea that you really need to get yourself a small lorry and equipment hauling trailer... even if you need to get a licence to drive it. The combo would give to sooooo many options for situations like this.
I am REALLY looking forward to part 2!!!!! 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Keep going. Some of us are here on earth to trash to treasure and enjoy doing it.
I love the wide tracks and how good the machine looks overall! Love to own it!
i think that i have seen aii of your videos and you aiways find something to entertain me as well as teach .i have worked on cars ,bikes, motorcycles,boats ,plains ,just about everything you can think of except diesels no heavy equipment i have learned so much from watching your videos i feel like i could go out and fix and drive up on the trailor a truck and bring it home running, keep doing what you do
At 21:20 you can see parts of #3 sleeve are missing but she probably just needs a little love
The piston ring(s) are also missing. That sleeve and piston is probably totally shot.
Excellent pre-start preparation. I think it’s worth repairing because it has a lot of life left.
Stay the course, you will win the battle, and it may get frustrating, but it will be rewarding, she’s a good ole machine. Thanks for the video, enjoyed watching.
Think of it this way. This thing is a lot of videos and content for you to make for us all. You could spend a whole video on two to three items. I went through the same thing on a 2004 mini-ex, and I ended up needing to do muffler, swivel seals, rebuild the bottom track frame as it had rusted through. In the end It did a LOT of work for me and continues to work today.
What a great looking machine love your videos bro watching from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹 (Caribbean) keep up your great work 😎👍
Needs about 4. Vans PB. BLASTER TO LOOSEN STUFF UP
How many gal oil and hyd fluid it need😅😅
This is gonna be good. I hope it makes it back to the Workshop 🙂
Bit of me ! The guy goes to look over a digger and spots the hydropak, side projects rock my world too bro !
Yeah when I see something shinny, or actually rusty, I can be easily side tracked! LOL.... Thanks for watching, I appreciate the support!
@ respect! I seem to have suffered this way since childhood , if see a rusty stripped bolt I dig it outta the ground hold it up to the sky , close one eye and shout VINCENT MOTORCYCLE! 1954 . 😎I ended up with 54 two wheelers 47-2008, a heap of mostly ex military landrover s and 42 tonnes of bigger military stuff ( the tanks have gone ) I spend all my money on batteries and oil changes🌞like the channel keep em coming .this digger looks to be really well built and little abuse.great score and the learning journey is mostly fun.
If I remember correctly Funk Driveline (clutches) was purchased outright by John Deere back in the 90's. Keep working on the old girl, it makes for great video.
Yup, but they still make their own line as well.
This machine looks like a blast to work on!
Your number 3 cylinder liner has chunks missing in the intake ports. It's the first thing i saw when you mentioned the top ring gone. There's no compression there. Another issue is that your blower was soaking wet with oil, needing an overhaul as well, likely re-sealing. Those vanes should be dry. Continuing to run it as-is is an accident waiting to happen. Hope this helps
Loved the running after the oil change
# 3 cylinder liner is broke. You could see it when you pulled the air box covers.
I can't wait for part 2!
Bad ass for sure, can't wait to see the next part of this one! Epic save for sure if this one can be done!
It’s not firing in all four. Sounds like only two. May be injectors or pump. Also fix the throttle before the engine grenades. Other than that, it has potential.
If you watch the begining, where he has the side covers off, the ports on one of the liners are completely rusted out ... that piston and rings will be completley toasted.
@ uh oh, sleeve and ring time. Maybe a piston swap too. It’s getting iffy.
❤❤❤Good job nothing beats having a go only way to succeed 👍👍👍👍👍👍
As soon as I saw that screw driver! Glad you did too!
This guy needs more subs. Very skilled dood!!!❤
Engine has got be rebuilt, if my eyes don’t fool me #3 liner has left the party early!
Very interesting video! Love how you appreciate this good old American manufactured machine. If this were a newer plastic ecu machine, I would not be interested.
Lots of money and work ahead. I'll be waiting on part 2 to see what you decide.
The steel wool is there to allow oil in the blow by gas to condense and flow back into the head instead of being dripped onto the ground.
I think Insley built a pretty good machine, but suffered from distribution problems and a lot of foreign competition. Link-belt hired several of their top people when they were fading away…
Good work on getting running
that liner is broken
second from right?
@@johnmcdermott8523yes, that’s cylinder #3. The engine is self destructing. Could still be salvageable with a i frame kit or ideally a full overhaul. The engine will last forever if done properly. More he messes with it it’ll just cause more internal damage.
Got so happy when the engine turned over
Me too! When I walked up to it, the owner told it would never run... he had MULTIPLE diesel mechanics tell him it junk and should be scrapped, so when I freed up the engine it was AWESOME! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
@@SalvageWorkshop From the professional mechanic assessment....they ARE right... it is not practical to spend 250.00/hour plus parts to have someone ELSE do it. But you are not running dirt with a schedule to complete, and you are doing a YooToob content-rich project..... so it is worth it, even if you end up doing an engine swap. This one is worth RESTORING, not just fixing... that is the armchair assessment from one locksmith!
I'm not a Detroit Diesel man, 50 years ago I removed a Detroit Diesel V8 engine out of a Michigan Front wheel Loader because of the enormous noise and horrible fuel economy. We replaced with a Leyland 1160 Engine and made since then almost 30K hours. Here in the Netherlands (and Europe), fuel Economy was already in the 70-ties a big issue.
What I suggest is check the governor to keep the revs constant. The engine will then idle and doesn't die when touching the drive pedals. Keep up the good work.
Maybe not good but the exhaust flamethrower option looks cool 😂
I like your video's, I have been watching you for quite a while now and always look forward to the next one. You are very determined and tenacious. You're definitely not a quitter. You may not know everything but who does, it's that determination not to let anything stop you that gets the job done. Well done, keep up the good work. I am sure everyone that watches you is is full of admiration for the way you just keep going, even against the odds.
And don't forget you got a guy named Scrappy Industries there in Pennsylvania and then you also have diesel Creek
Fact, if you decide you don't want it maybe one of those guys would like to bring it back to life.
Sam can help yeet this thing out if worse comes to worse with the big lowboy and maybe some help from the Terex crane
Send the motor to Bus Grease Monkey.
that hand clutch is there so eng does not have to start against hyd resistance during cold weather
Was thinking the same and it must be frozen in the engaged position no matter handle position since before he stalled it boom went up a little n moved forward ever slightly before stalling out.he really needs to figure out why rack is not responding to throttle gov.
I think the machine is in v weed ry good shape for it's age. I do think the motor needs to be rebuilt. But a Detroit is very cheap to rebuild. And pretty sure cylinder #3 inspection cover showed the webbing broken on cylinder liner .... unless I saw it wrong
The green keytag..Narcotics Anonymous
>Looks like somebody got 60 days clean time... Keep coming back 👍
What a fantastic video! Thanks for sharing, we’re doing a rare Dynahoe in the UK fitted with a Detroit 4/53👍🏻
great video! Thank you!
Fuel is getting in from the no. 3 cylinder being dead. It's not burning it
You know Adam, that makes sense... I'll have to check the dip stick to see if the oil level is getting more full just by sitting, or only when it runs... it could also be a crack in the head somewhere, because the fuel flows through it up into the valve cover and over to each injector.... I appreciate the thought, and the support, it means a lot!
@SalvageWorkshop yes sir, thanks for all you do!
Well it also has had chunks on cylinder sleeve go through as evident in the video,
I heard some noise that seem like a valve got stuck or an injector and then it started to miss so I think you're correct on but I've never worked on diesels I've just been watching the videos I have worked on vehicles gas engines Etc so just to the old ear I agree and thanks for pointing out what it really is
@@5337kb dead right broken liner ports causing sparks
The pieces of missing cylinder liner probably caused some issues.
Great video! I am still hoping we might one day see some updates on Old Red 😁
I buy older stuff my self and restore it. It work's so much better than the new computerized junk they're selling nowadays. At least when your done you will know what you have and it will last you another 40 years.
SAVE THAT MACHINE. The work it can do is immeasurable. I had 2 JD 792s and they were stupid strong and simple compared to later model excavators. I have saved a bunch of tracked machines and that one looks quite salvageable. Tracks look tight as a banjo hope you can loosen the tension so it can move. Try the group HCEA for old timers help.
Ol2Stroker lives, eats and breathes Detroit Diesels. Reach out, maybe he can help. Awesome video. The only thing that would make it better is if you rode up on a horse with all your tools in saddle bags.
THIS
That would be awesome.... Hang on, I need to go buy a horse!
@@SalvageWorkshoplol
Oh boy !
A horse !!!
What are you going to do when it spits out a tooth ( or a spark plug ) for that matter ? Lol
Keep on flogging that excavator ( 1/2 ) dead horse, but is it going to kill you ? Nope ! bro@SalvageWorkshop
You sir have a good heart to save that excavator after everyone wrote it off as junk
Looks like a broke sleeve right before your light died!
It's amazing that you try to save old machines. What is going on with big red? Are you gonna finish it or did i miss that episode
Get a small Tupperware container. Cut a small hole in the side. Mix 1/2 corn bread (honey works best) with 1/2 baking soda. Put them around the edges of your shop ( they follow straight lines along the walls). I put them near the engines of my equipment as well. You will not have any more mouse problems all winter, or summer.
You got this far you may as well keep going and not let it beat you .
Roding on that Detroit like it's a funny car 😂