ASUS ProArt X570 Creator WiFi Thunderbolt 4 Motherboard Storage Options
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- Answering Subscribers Questions, Identifying Problems and Providing Solutions. Today We have another Comment We're going to go through. The ASUS ProArt X570 Creator WiFi Motherboard. What are the Storage Options to Add M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives to this Motherboard.
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1. ASUS ProArt X570 Creator WiFi Motherboard
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Hi revieworr,
Welcome! Absolutely! Those Details matter! Appreciate Your Comments!
@@BuildOrBuyNo worries, your seriously in on the details * and all which is exactly what I wanted to know with the PCIe slots.
Hi@@revieworr,
Every Motherboard is all about Slots and Storage for CPU PCIe Lanes! Never enough with Shared PCIe Resources on a Consumer Desktop Motherboard vs Dedicated on a HEDT or Workstation! The big looming question, what are the options and arrangements. Appreciate Your Comments!
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Hi Cars10,
Appreciate Your Input! Details matter! Thanks for Watching and Commenting!
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Hi John Paul Bacon,
Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments! Knowing those Details are Fascinating for the What, Why and How of the Problem and possible Solution. We just need more PCIe Resources!
@@BuildOrBuy I have thought that there should be a way to have "Multiple-PCIE Controller Chips" managed in a similar manner to how there used to be a North and South bridge. Each PCIE-Chip could provide say 8 to 16 lanes each have as many on the MB to provide all the PCIE-Lanes as needed for that motherboard.
Hi@@johnpaulbacon8320,
That's an interesting Question! Glad You've brought that up! We had mentioned some time ago about doing a Video on that very Topic. Yes! With PLX Chips. Both ASUS and Gigabyte have that on their respective X299 Workstation Motherboards. Those expensive PLX Chipsets allowed extra PCIe Slots on those Motherboards. As time marches on, No way We're going back to revisit X299 Motherboards until and only when Intel Releases a new HEDT Chipset. Then that would then be appropriate in retrospect. Thanks for Asking!
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Hi Hurly D'souza,
The breakdown on these these Details are fascinating! Thank You for Watching!
Excellent video! That formula you provided for CPU cores=Video RAM is very interesting...
Hi pedro rivera,
We expect that Formula from Adobe to be more widely adopted in the future whether using software or not. Clean and concise for a Starting point in Building a purpose Built Computer for Rendering! Thanks for Watching!
Nicely done
Hi Devin,
Amazing how these Details can very from Motherboard to Motherboard. Every one has to be checked and verified. Thank You!
I just bought this motherboard and read the manual (I haven't build the pc yet). For what I understand the 1st PCIe slot is untouchable (at least with ryzen 5000 and 3000 series), it will always keep the 16 lanes if nothing is installed in the 2nd and 3rd PCIe slots. Otherwise If are used, M.2_2 affects the PCIe slot 2 cutting the bandwidth to the half and M.2_3 affects SATA ports 5 & 6 (only if is occupied by an NVME). The manual say it pretty clear.
Hi Ryo Saeba,
Welcome! Glad You've brought that up. Correct. Not everyone bothers getting past the hype. Not everyone understands what they've read. RFM Read that Fantastic Manual! The Title of this Video clearly states what to expect. Thank You for Your Comments! Enjoy Your Build!
I believe that the first slot is NOT untouchable. If you have your graphics card in the 1st slot and you put second nvme in the second m2 slot then the graphics card will work at 8x not in 16x. I believe if someone want to have 2 nvme drives better to put it in the m3 place so it will have the pci16x the graphics card, the 1st nvme is at the cpu and the second in m3 place takes from the chipset the lanes but all of that if you don't use all the sata and use only 4 of them.
I LOVE this Channel! Info straight forward and factual. I am a creater and gamer and a "Purpose Built Machine" is the only smart way to approach a build, IMHO.
I want to put a 4th gen ASUS HyperX PCIe card with two 1 TB Evo Plus 3rd Gen M.2's , should I go with This setup on my Crosshair VIII Wifi with my 5900x?
Hi NEO DON,
Welcome! Agreed! I'm honored! Purpose Built, Absolutely! A Quad card. Knowing the CPU PCIe Resource allocations. Doable but at a sacrifice. 2 Drives, understand. Prioritization based on Your Description, GPU over a Quad card! According to New Reports We're reading, A GPU in X8 will take a 1% to 2% Performance hit. One User Reported in a 4K Configuration without details of a 20% Performance hit with GPU in X8. This is an aspect of Stats where We need quantifiable Results to Test and Verify for Repeatable Performance Options. Anyway, Yes possible as long as You know going in what to expect coming out. Personally I'd prefer a HEDT or Workstation but doable. RAID can be a hassle. This will be a Hybrid Bios Bootable RAID. That's faster than the O/S Software RAID. You are Curious to see if it helps in load times. Windows 11? DirectStorage! Every Detail matters! Go for it!
Solid, if you find it available.
Hi kenney0313,
Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
I'm doing that same build but with a 5900X 12 core, so if I use a GPU with 12 core like a RTX 3080 TI 12 core would it balance with the CPU, 12 and 12. also now I understand how to allocate the M.2 and the PCIEX16, with the 20 lane how to subtract and balance the used of it. Great tutorie looking forward to the next video hope you would stay a little longer on this motherboard and CPU, many people are doing this build as a cost efficient work station. Thanks
Hi Carlos Vazquez,
Welcome! Yes! For the Adobe After Effects Multi-Frame Rendering, CPU Optimization Formula! After all, depending upon Your Render Engine, the GPU does most of that work now. To reiterate, depends upon the Renderer. Excellent! There are only so many PCIe Resources from either CPU or Chipset. We're Splitting or Bifurcating CPU Lanes to accommodate more M.2 NVMe Drives on PCIe Slots. We have to consider the PCIe Resource allocations when working with Shared Resources vs. Dedicated Resources. There was more but We kept close to the Question and relevancy to the task at hand. I would like to have mentioned Thunderbolt but was not part of the Question nor task. But very relevant to hardwired Chipset PCIe Resources. Sometimes We'll see Thunderbolt on a Motherboard in a shared Configuration. Every Motherboard is different and We need to always Verify those Resources. And the Documentation is not always correct vs what is seen in the Bios! That's confusing! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!
I had an AM4 socket Ryzen build for two weeks before I finished my Threadripper build. In just a few days I wished I hadn't wasted my money on that Ryzen board. 16 GEN4 cpu lanes to the PCIe sockets Vs 112 GEN4 cpu lanes. 4 cpu lanes to one M.2 socket Vs 8 cpu lanes to two M.2 sockets. 4 cpu lanes to the chipset Vs 8 cpu lanes to the chipset. Dual channel ram Vs eight channel ram with 4 times the throughput/sec. Asus WRX80E is the board to get. Soon we should have the ZEN3 16 core 5955WX processor.
Hi Max Hughes,
Very good point! Some things We have to experience to make Us appreciate. Those What Ifs! And every single one of these Motherboards are different yet the same. Not enough PCIe Resources! We're getting close to those Threadripper Pro CPUs!
BTW: Something else We're going to start pointing out, Your ASUS WRX80 has 20Gbps USB-C. Fascinating and Interesting!
Hi Max,
FYI: We now have a Listing for the MSI WS WRX80 Motherboard. Still no PDF Manual. Only a Data Sheet. Skimpy on Details but this is a start!
MSI WS WRX80 Workstation Motherboard E-ATX - AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO - 11 Phases, 8 DIMMs, BMC
www.msi.com/Motherboard/WS-WRX80/Overview
@@BuildOrBuy Thanks for the link. Maybe an extra year to market might yield some extra features. AMD's 3000 series is EOL. MSI must know ZEN3 TR Pro is comming soon.
@@BuildOrBuy ASUS? Even the X399 had lots of new features like temp sensors (water temp and NVMe temp) and pump sensors but no info on what to buy to use them. hahahahaha
@@BuildOrBuy Yes Yes. X399 had a AIC for one 10GB lan. That took up a PCIe socket. WRX80E has built in dual Intel 10GB lan. It is a workstation king. HighPoint now will run 8 NVMe drives on two SSD7505 cards in one raid0 at 40000MB. That's anywhere from 8TB to 32TB of storage. I don't think these guys from China ever heard of 'moores law'
Hey! Great video! I’m still learning so some of this was a slog to follow but I think I got there in the end.
You mentioned keeping at at 64gb ram and not 128gb and said you’ll get back to explaining that later on in the video but I didn’t hear you got back to that topic? Unless I missed it? Could you elaborate please?
I’m currently doing my first custom build with the 5900x and this board
Hello Samuel,
Welcome! Glad You've asked! Edited for time and content. For Content Creation, this designation of amount of RAM is in another Video. This designation of RAM is based on the Adobe Formula. This is the Adobe After Effects Multi Frame Rendering CPU Optimization Formula. Which states:
1. CPU Cores X4 = RAM
2. CPU Core Count = VRAM
Therfore, 16 CPU Cores = 64GBs RAM. And 16 CPU Cores = 16GBs VRAM.
All of that is a starting point. Editing is easy on anything. Rendering requires Processing power! Not so easy! Hope that helps! Appreciate Your Comments! Success with Your Build!
Excellent video. I have just begun to build my first PC. I have the Asus ProArt X570 Creator MB, a Ryzen 9 5900x CPU with a RTX 3080 12 GB (non TI) GPU. I have read and reread the Asus user manual regarding the charts on shared bandwidth and looked online as well for shared bandwidth info for my setup. I was thrilled to come upon your video. Followed you clearly until bifurcation. Can't get my arms around it. So bottom line is am I losing any available bandwidth with the following setup: PCI-E slot 1 - 3080 GPU. PCI-E slots 2 and 3 are not used. FireCuda 530 1 TB for NVMe M2 slot 1 (off CPU). NVMe M2 slot 2 not used. FireCuda 530 1 TB for NVMe M2 slot 3 (off chipset). I could not find anywhere about losing bandwidth with the CPU PCI-E / NVMe usage. I also only found the disabling of SATA ports 5 & 6 if NVMe slot 3 is used. I do plan on using SATA ports 1 and 2 for two optical drives. Am I OK - or do I have a problem. Thanks again for this video. Watched more info than everywhere else I looked put together. Rich K
Hi Smallie Guy aka Rich K,
Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Congrats on Your Build!
2 Parts to Your Question. This is going to take a minute... This Q should be a Video!
1. Bifurcation is defined as Splitting or Forking just like a Fork has separate Tines.
Bifurcation is the ability to electrically reconfigure or change 1 group of 16 PCIe Lanes, electrically, into 4 Groups of 4 PCIe Lanes, electrically. Why? To be able to have 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives coexist on 1 X16 PCIe Slot.
The reason: Each M.2 NVMe Drive, for full bandwidth performance, requires 4 PCIe Lanes hence, Bifurcation! Bifurcation can either be a Function of a UEFI Bios on a Motherboard or a Self Bifurcated Add in card which has a PLX Chip for PCIe Lane Switching. Thus from X16 to X4+X4+X4+X4.
Without Bifurcation, only 1 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive would be seen by the Motherboard. The other 3 would not be seen since no PCIe Resources are allocated for them.
Bifurcation on a Motherboard is less expensive than having a Self Bifurcated Add in card due to the cost of the Lane Switching PLX Chip for Upstream and Down Stream PCIe Ports or Electrical Lanes. Chipsets Rule!
Bifurcation started on the Server, to the Workstation then HEDT then trickled down to the Desktop. Not all Desktop Motherboards have enough PCIe Resources to Bifurcate a PCIe Slot. That's always the main question We field about adding Storage to Desktop Motherboards. And the few that do, do not always fully Bifurcate from X16 to X4+X4+X4+X4. Some Motherboards are only able to partially Bifurcate to X8+X4+X4.
Q: Can We Add a X16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Quad card. Depends. We have to check and verify, Motherboard, CPU and Chipset. Every Motherboard is different in PCIe Resource allocations.
ASUS has done the most work of any Motherboard Manufacturer to allow the Reconfiguration of CPU PCIe Resources as allowed by what's available in that very limited pool of CPU PCIe Resources in a Motherboard UEFI Bios.
This is the biggest difference in Shared vs Dedicated PCIe Resources on Motherboards.
A Computer has 2 types of PCIe Lanes.
1. To the CPU and
2. Through the Chipset.
Bifurcated PCIe Lanes are always to the CPU.
2. As is. No loss of Bandwidth. Just think twice about Adding a X16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Quad card! It gets involved! Hope that helps!
@@BuildOrBuy Thanks so much for the quick reply. And especially for the very detailed explanation of Bifurcation. Much better understanding of it now. It really is complicated. And thanks for the confirmation of my setup. I have subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to watching more. Great success to you on your channel.
Okay so I have this motherboard in my computer. I have a 5900x, a 3090, 2 m.2 drives in the first two positions. 64 Ram (4 16’s). I might be doing something wrong here. What would be the optional way to set this board up, assuming you’re starting from scratch? Thanks! Eric
Hi Eric Wanner,
Welcome! Great Question! Optimal, You're good! Upgrades are where You might want to ADD Storage. That will become the problem due to Shared and Limited PCIe Resources. The Memory Controller for Dual Channel would be 2 Slots instead of 4 Slots. Always Test and Verify!
will it make a big performance drop when I put 2 same rtx cards (3090) in pcie1 + pcie2 ? they get down to 8x both I understood. but will this heavily impact on cuda rendering with octane or redshift? you have numbers on that?
I have the same board like in this video. brand new built- works great with one rtx 3090 and an m2 in m2_1. planing to get another 3090 and if it works out another m2..
Hi Cars10,
Welcome! X8 to reiterate should be fine. Nothing lower than that! We do not have numbers on that nor have We Tested that. Just basing the possibility on the Specs. However, 1 GPU is favorable over 2 GPUs. Depends upon the how the Render engine handles the Data like if the same Data has to be copied to both GPUs. Always Test and Verify! Hope that helps!
Great video too bad that my knowledge was to little, i have 1 m.2 and 1 ssd where should I connect them?
Hi bassa God,
Welcome! Music? Great Question! We learn by doing!
ASUS ProArt X570 Creator WiFi
www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/ProArt/ProArt-X570-CREATOR-WIFI/techspec/
Storage:
1. M.2_1 Slot.
2. Any SATA Port since none are Shared!
Hope that helps! Thanks for Watching! Success on Your Build! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!
I'm just wondering if it would be possible to connect x2 Egpu into the thunderbolt ports for rendering withd x2 cards in the PCIE slot for a total of 4x 3090s in total? its my understanding that GPU rendering doesn't need the full capabilities of the PCIE. if I'm wrong and this wont work on this board I would very much welcome being corrected. thanks in advance.
I forgot to add i'd like to put in the remaining Pcie slot a dual m.2 adapter but I'm not sure that will work
Hi@@jagz888,
According to ASUS, info on the Motherboard Tech Specs as listed below says Bifurcation is supported. However, no mention of that in either the PDF Motherboard nor Bios Manuals.
www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/ProArt/ProArt-X570-CREATOR-WIFI/techspec/
In theory a Dual Adapter should work however, since ASUS does not make a Dual Adapter which would require 4x4 on an 8 Lane Slot, expect Bifurcation would be to support only an ASUS product which would be a Quad Adapter of 8x8 on an 8 Lane slot hence an M.2 would be in Position 1 & 3 rather then sequential positioning of 1 & 2. You'll have to verify Bios Settings, accordingly! At least You'll know what You're searching for! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress! ASUS documentation is getting sloppy!
The breakdown of lanes in the video is similar to my board (Asus Crosshair VIII Hero Extreme C8E) I have not assembled the computer yet, I am using parts from a Crosshair VI Hero (AMD 7 1800X). I am reusing the 3200 Samsung B die 4 x 16 and water cooling. My question is where is my C8E getting the lanes for the 10Gb Network, Thunderbolt 4 and the add-in card for two sticks of Nvme (located next to the RAM slots)? I understand that Nvme 2 and 3 are disabled the same way as in the video if the second 16 physical slot is used. Is this Asus motherboard somehow juggling four lanes and not disabling anything additional?
Hi Charlie "Lanes" L,
Welcome! Is this Your Motherboard?
ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme X570
rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-extreme-model/
Every Motherboard is different. We'll check after You Verify the Model. Until then, We're talking CPU Lanes for Bifurcation vs Chipset Lanes for Devices mentioned.
Yes, I have the board: ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme X570 (C8E). It appears to me that the only loss of lanes is when the second mechanical PCIE 16_2 slot is used; It will first go to x8 and when M.2_2(from CPU) is used it will go to x4 and when M.2_2 and M.2_3 are used the second PCIE 16_2 is disabled. I was wondering since this motherboard C8E has two Bios I was thinking: Under most circumstances I would use a Graphics card (Bios 1) using all 16 lanes, but on occasion I would boot the second Bios (Bios 2) using M.2_2 and M.2_3 (activatable in Bios) and use those slots for long term storage - a location when using just the 16 lanes of the graphic card (Bios 1) the Nvme drives in M.2_2 and M.2_3 would not be visible to the operating system (Windows) and be safe form a Ransomware attack.
Any light you can shed on how this board (C8E) is juggling the other resources mentioned above would be helpful. I also see a note in the manual: “RAID configuration and optical disc drives are not supported on the SATA6G_E1-2 ports.”
Since the time that I discovered your postings, I have spent many hours each day viewing and have watched all of your posts - remarkable useful productions. Thank you.
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Curious. I've never heard of a Dual Bios being used that way. Tell Us more! Thank You! Glad We could help! Lots of Information to Digest! The rest of this will require a Video!
I have 3 M.2 install on my PrpArt X570. However when I install 2 SSD directly to the motherboard SATA ports windows 11 won’t see them. However, if I connect them with a SATA to USB PC I would see them. Also, under SATA configuration in the BIOS it said no present. Any advice would be appreciated
Hello 4n6wizard,
Welcome. To clarify, 3 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. Correct? 2 SSDs? SATA SSDs or SATA M.2 SSDs? SATA to USB is using a Bridge translation chip using USB Resources for 1 PCIe Lane. Based on what's not seen in Bios, sounds like you do not have enough PCIe Resources. Remember M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives utilize 4 PCIe Lanes. Whereas SSDs each use only 1 PCIe Lane. Is that SSD using a Shared Resource or a Dedicated Resource. That's the point of these videos. Count your PCIe Lanes.
Whenever a device is enabled in M.2_2, PCIe_2 becomes by x4; but, this also implies that PCIe_1 becomes x8 (even if PCIe_2 is unpopulated). Four lanes of those 16 CPU lanes which serve PCIe_1 would be allocated to M.2_2, and then four lanes would remain available to PCIe_2. So, running a device in PCIe_1 with x16 signaling is not possible if either PCIe_2 or M.2_2 are populated.
I'll therefore have a GPU in PCIe_1 x16, the system boot NVMe SSD in M.2_1, and I'll leave both PCIe_2 and M.2_2 unpopulated. Both the GPU and the system boot NVMe SSD are PCIe gen 4 capable. I'll have a data NVMe SSD in M.2_3, which employs chipset lanes operating with PCIe gen 3 signaling. For colder storage I'll employ SATA_1, SATA_2, SATA_3, and/or SATA_4 (with SATA_5 and SATA_6 disabled in the BIOS).
What say you to the assertion that framerates are not at all impacted when a GPU operates with x8 signaling? Is it silly to avoid use of PCIe_2 and M.2_2 just to keep PCIe_1 as x16?
I wonder if the motherboard's mention of gen 3 for PCIe_3 is a typo. The 24 CPU lanes and the 20 X570 chipset lanes are all gen 4 capable (given a 5000 series CPU).
Hi Chris Brisson,
Welcome! Crazy what takes to read Motherboard Specs now with Shared PCIe Resources! And after the Overview, a fair and relevant Question! This is a coulda, shoulda, woulda type Question. This Option should be left to the User. However, by Design, this obfuscation is another example of built-in obsolescence. What do We mean by that? Q: Would You choose to have Your GPU in a X8 Slot? Of course not. And that's Our Point. Now realistically, the PCIe Bus is no longer about the GPU ever since NVMe became a reality! With that being true, the GPU will be fine utilizing X8 instead of X16. To be clear, that should be by choice and not by Design. Hope that helps! Such is what We're dealing with on a Consumer Desktop Motherboard with Shared PCIe Resources vs Dedicated PCIe Resources as We see on HEDT or Workstation Motherboards! Fascinating, right! And a bit of a conundrum.
Hi Chris Brisson,
Excellent point. You're right, has to be a typo based on the Chipset and CPU Specs. Design vs Implementation. We have to go over every Motherboard to catch the suttle nuances of each and know when, as You have pointed out, a typo occurs. Whoever created the documentation did not know the Specs. That's why proofing is essential with another set of eyes!
Hello. I'm neither a gamer nor a content creator, but I'm currently working on building my wife a video editing workstation using this specific motherboard. I was just wondering, under what scenario would you need to use all three M.2 slots with an additional drive on the third slot? The reason I'm asking is because after watching a few videos for content creators, the general suggestion is to use slot 1 for the OS and software, then another drive as cache, another one to keep working projects, and a final one to store finished projects. Would the setup in this video help this sort of workflow in any way?
Hi galloe,
Welcome! Great Question! As You have stated, depends upon Your Configuration, Requirements and Workflow. The last Drive might be a SATA Instead of an M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive. Could be a much larger and slower Drive. And that's OK. Everyone wants to know their availability of PCIe Resources when they start asking why something will not work. Just because there's a Connector does not mean it's a Dedicated Resource. Hope that helps! Success on Your Build!
Hi i'm currently looking into making cinema 4d redshift machine with asus proart x570 and 4070ti and amd ryzen 9 5950x is it great for startup as i use only mac and switching for pc just for 3d rendering.
i was wondring is asus proart b550 is cheaper should i go with it with the same specification or i should go x570 motherboard ?
Hi Amr Abdelaziz,
Welcome! For that CPU, suggest change GPU to RTX 3080. Why? For a balanced Purpose Built Computer. We use the Adobe After Effects Multi Frame Rendering CPU Optimization Formula which states:
1. CPU Cores x 4 = RAM
2. CPU Core Count = VRAM
Therefore, 16 CPU Cores = 64GBs RAM and 16GBs VRAM as a starting Point for Rendering. Hope that helps!
Hi@@AmrAbdelaziz-fc5rq,
Depends. How many Useable PCIe Lanes You may Require. 36 vs 20. To reiterate, the X570 has 36 Usable PCIe Lanes whereas the B550 has 20 Usable PCIe Lanes. Both CPU and Chipset PCIe Lanes matter for Slots and Storage and other Devices such as SATA Ports and USB Ports, in that Order. Either one has the same CPU PCIe Lanes since both utilize the same CPU. Both Chipsets are Consumer Desktop Motherboard Chipsets. Suggest X570 unless You opt for a newer technology Build such as X670E Chipset. Changing one thing can change everything! Why? More PCIe Lanes plus PCIe 5.0 and DDR5, if that matters. Options!
I'd love some help with this board and it's Thunderbolt ports. I have a 1TB 970 EVO Plus NVME in an Acasis external TB4 enclosure. In device manager for the drive I have changed the policies to "Better Performance" & "Enable write caching on the device. I'm getting fast read speeds (2700 MB/s), but Write speeds are only around 900MB/s, which is what I would think is in line with 10Gb usb-c, not 40Gb TB4 speed. I'm using an Acasis TB4 cable as well. Same external drive & same cable on my M1 Max MBP gets fast TB4 read/write.
I want to use this drive as a fast cache drive for After Effects and C4D
I can't find specific info online about this mobo's bios settings in regards to allowing full TB4 throughput to external drive. I've read some forums and stumbled upon AMD PBS and found that in Advance section of Bios. My settings there are:
Data Link Feature Exchange - Disabled
(enable or disable Data Link Feature Exchange, try to disable it if any Legacy Endpoint can not boot.)
Thunderbolt Support - Enabled
Thunderbolt Security Level - No Security
Thunderbolt MMIO Resource - Full Size
Thunderbolt Wake Up Command - GO2SX Command
Machine specs:
5900x
128GB 3600 Mhz GSkill trident royal Z
m.2 slot 1 - Samsung 990 Pro 4TB - boot drive
m.2 slot 2 - not populated
m.2 slot 3 Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB - Working file storage - Chipset
pcie slot 1 gen 4 x 8 - MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid X
pcie slot 2 gen 4 x 8 Asus 4090 Strix
10g nic with connected to 10g switch over copper Cat 6A
Sir, can i connect an sound card with pcie 1x to pcie x16 on this board? Which slot to use if pcie_1 occupied by gpu
Hello weihuang5605,
Welcome! Which Soundcard?
@@BuildOrBuy creative soundblaster audigy fx v2
Hello@@weihuang5605,
Use 3rd Slot. That's through the Chipset.
@@BuildOrBuy thanks for the reply good sir
Hello@@weihuang5605,
Absolutely! Hope that helps!
Will adding a 4090 in the PCIE x16 slot
And a GEN 4 SSD in all the 3 SSD slots
So will setting affect the 4090 bandwidth or VRAM
Kindly suggest on priority as I am planning to buy this motherboard
Hi Rahul,
Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment through RUclips Studio. Don't use PCIEX16_2. Ryzen 5000 CPU has 24 PCIe 4.0 Lanes. Appears M.2_1 & M.2_2 are both Dedicated using CPU PCIe 3.0 Lanes as long as PCIEX16_2 is not used. And M.2_3 is using Chipset PCIe 4.0 Lanes. Therefore, yes you can use those 3 and your GPU is good for X16. Thus no bandwidth issues for GPU. Always Test and Verify. Results can vary.
@@BuildOrBuy thank you sir for your response. So just in case how to verify if the bandwidth of the GPU is being affected ? Is there any ways to check that ?
Hi@@rahulkamath6984, Yes. GPU-Z should be able to tell you.
@@BuildOrBuy ok sir thank you for your prompt response
Will surly look into this matter when adding a new SSD
Just for information I have bought this motherboard and it’s working well for now
Thanks again
Hi@@rahulkamath6984,
Sometimes we don't see comments until we go looking for them through RUclips Studio. Fantastic! Good to hear. Thanks for Sharing.
I loaded my pcie4 m.2 on the Asus motherboard....get 7k speed ....GPU has one slot and leaving an x16 slot ...gonna use the super micro card to add older pcie3 m.2 as pcie3 speed is overkill for most games but I'm curious to see what happens. Family rigs all have Asus b550 boards with m.2 so this might work for the rigs as well.... we'll see if sata 5/6 are deactivated...
Hello there ; the X-570 mb's should be a better option ; from what I understand : X-570 chipset allows for more X4 capability over more slots.
@@johnpaulbacon8320 thanks for the come back...it's an option to explore....
I was just looking at the MB Manual under Multiple VGA ( Video Cards ) - From this section ; Slot 1 can be Bifurcated to 4x4x4x4 using the Asus Gen 4 Hyper X2 card. You would need to enable Hyper-X card support in the bios. Then you could use the Asus Gen 4 HyperX2 card in slot-1 and get 4x4x4x4 and it would be PCIE-4 and Slot 2 would be PCIE gen 4 x8 slot. So Asus Gen-4 Hyper-X2 card = slot 1 and Video Card ( GPU ) in slot 2 after enabling Hyper-x2 card support in the bios ; should allow for the setup he would want.
Hi Mike Quinton,
Helps knowing how everything is plumbed! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!
Hi@@johnpaulbacon8320,
Welcome! Every Motherboard is different in How PCIe Resources are allocated. X570 looks good on paper. Chipset Design vs Motherboard Manufacturer Implementation issues always arise when working with Shared PCIe Resources.
Has anyone figured out why, when you insert a Thunderbolt external drive (ie Sabrent Thunderbolt 3 external enclosure for nvm ssd's), the system (Win11 Pro) will not mount and open the drives. The only way I can see an attached Thunderbolt external is to completely shutdown/restart the PC WITH the T-Bolt drive attached. I have a Dell XPS 13 laptop with Thunderbolt 4 and this is not an issue at all.
Hi Steven Lutz,
Welcome! This sounds like a Bios update issue. Or approved Device setting. Have You reported this to ASUS Tech? We've experienced Hot Plug issues going back to SATA on Gigabyte X399 Motherboards. Hassle! However, that should not be happening with ASUS on Thunderbolt. Did You verify the Bios settings? To reiterate, could be a Security setting for Approved Devices. Security has been a big issue with Thunderbolt. More hassle for Us than Security issue.
@@BuildOrBuy I will double check settings and let you know what I find. No response from ASUS yet.
Hi@@StevenLutz1970,
Just checked both the Motherboard and Bios Manuals. Since Bios Manual is generic, nothing about Thunderbolt, only about USB Configuration. ASUS has had better documentation than this. The Motherboard Manual is focused on Thunderbolt DisplayPort Configuration. Nothing helpful.
Once a Thunderbolt Device is Approved, it should enumerate and become available without rebooting Computer.
@@BuildOrBuy I changed anything I could find that might relate to Thunderbolt enumerating on insert within the bios. Still nothing - very frustrating.
Hi@@StevenLutz1970,
Any feedback from ASUS Tech Support?
I bought this motherboard on July 2022, and till this date I am struggling to get ASUS support
So, to the people in INDIA This is one of the best motherboards but if you face any issue that’s it, the ASUS support in INDIA is pathetic - I escalated issue to all level and no one from ASUS really gave any dam about customer service (even after CEO escalation)
Not I will have to through this and go with another brand
He Presanth u,
Welcome! Tech Support is suffering from everyone. What issues are You having with Your Motherboard?