Jordan Peterson: Men need an intimate relationship (probably?)
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Mr. Peterson,
My parents abandoned me when I was 1yo. I lived with my grandparents. I grew up in a rural area and didn't get to socialize much. When I was 5 my mother and father came back into my life. My father was only around for a couple of weeks and then he met a woman with two kids and decided to start a new family with her. My mother joined the Army after only being around for a week and then was medically discharged after breaking her ankle. She moved to California after that. She met a man and I was going to go out there and live with my mom and her boyfriend died in a motorcycle accident. I stayed with my Grandparents till I was 10. My father rarely visited me and we lived in the same area. When my mother came back into town she met another guy and they settled down and got married. I went to live with them and my sister was born. My Grandpa died a couple of years later.
When I was 15 I lived with my dad for a short while and he had another child with my stepmom. He got to the point he didn't want me around and we had got into an argument. He knocked me out so bad I didn't know where I was at, who I was, and anything that had happened to me for a couple of hours. I went back to live with my mom. Her and her husband were in the first stages of getting a divorce and my mom would leave and my stepdad would emotionally abuse me to take his anger out her. At the age of 17 I met a girl I moved in with to get away from all the terrible shit at either one of my parents houses. We got engaged and she cheated on me with my best friend. I left town and joined the military after that. Then around 24 I was married to my first wife and she cheated on me multiple times even though we had what seemed like a good relationship on the outside. I went my own way an then met another woman who was also in the military who after about 8 months into our relationship cheated on me with her command chief who was married. I once again did my own thing and was left with such a bad experience and lack of faith in the military that I got out after 10 years of service. I traveled the US and worked different places and finally met another woman. After a 3 1/2 year relationship she started seeing another guy me when we had separated for about 2 weeks.
I have been betrayed, lied to, beaten, forgotten, and at several points almost took my life. I finally realized at the end of the day, that this is their eternity, they have set down. I tried to be a good person and do the right thing always and that is my eternity. I am finally at peace knowing everything that happened to me was not my fault. I am not fragmented, just scarred. I am grateful that there are heroes like you Mr. Peterson, and many others that were my guides through this terrifying and wonderful life of mine.
computerbiscuit
I’m sorry to hear about what’s happened to you man. What happens when you’re young is so impactful and you have no control over it, so it’s so sad it hear that you got screwed over so hard. Hope you have a good life.
Thank you very much MK
@@computerbiscuit
That's a rough ride mate, I hope you can find some recovery from the trauma you experienced.
@Carl I did find someone and she seems to be everything that I have waited for. We've fallen for each other in ways that we both don't understand yet, but we are thankful to have found each other.
@@computerbiscuit
That's great, I hope it all works out for you two. I'm yet to really find any woman I've been interested in after my first divorce 7 years ago and I don't want to jump in a relationship just for the sake of having one.
Everytime i listen to J.P i start cleaning my house.
Haha
Me too, that' s exactly what I'm doing next !!!!
Exactly
I like this comment in every sense
That coupled with watching Hoarders will have me cleaning my baseboards
I would schedule my life around his class.
I’m scheduling my life around his RUclips videos.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Like planning an extra hour after his class just to let it sink in
Start with your room
In 8 years and one full summer of schooling I don’t think any of my professors lectures made it to RUclips lol
“It breaks you into pieces, and you don’t necessarily recover that well.”
Ain’t that the truth
Yeah. That made me coil.
Well, shit.
I was hoping i'll recover from this shit one day.
Jup
Yep. My 1st relationship really hurt. I know it affected me long after, and maybe still does today.
Damn imagine if one has a couple of broken ones...
Yup. That's why I stopped dating and am working on loving myself primarily. After 5 years of being single I'm starting to feel like I'm beginning to heal..finally.
While it might be nice to have two brains to navigate through life, many people don't have anyone in their immediate circle of friends and family they can open up to. So, that's why you find tens of thousands of people are watching videos like this because these videoes are the second brain.
Wish it wasn't true..
I agree...
I believe we have never been more egoic, emotionally unstable and sensitive than now. Healthy conflict and different perspectives are no longer welcomed or given because it's easier to shame, defame and 'cancel'. A huge pity.
I'm sorry but I think if we get one brain we're already lucky enough
I really don’t trust the advice of my family... I love them I just don’t think they understand what’s right and have led me astray at times.
the video ended just when it got interesting
Yes, how the hell DO we calibrate the the optimum amount of uncertainty in our lives? I guess now we'll never know....
REALLY TRUE!! I've found out in ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 1h46m17s
@@javierlandry7246 dude
EXACTLY, all videos on this channel end like that !
Your awesome and I admire your desire to live and tell this tale. Gratitude 🙏.
🇺🇸😎👍🏽
Dr Peterson sounds like a lone voice of sanity in a howling gale of "wokeness" that threatens to blow ALL our houses down.
.. think MAGA ...
@@no-hndle Wouldn't that be an oxymoron?
It’s only in your mind. The effects of wholeness are so minor that any normal person could simply choose to laugh about it or ignore it.
Seriously what has wokeness actually affected
“Oh my god, they removed the wenchs from the pirates of the Caribbean ride!” “Oh my god they cast a black person in a certain role”
Who cares. Wokeness is stupid but at least it’s based on something with good intentions
@@Moriningland "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and is especially relevant in the case of the socially divisive and deluded - Diversity, Inclusion Equity agenda. We ignore the wisdom of this ancient aphorism at our peril. You need to wake up!
It’s horrible. It absolutely breaks u into pieces. Your whole perception of reality gets warped when u lose your spouse.
I like the way, that he pronounces thought.
I like the way he says axiomatic presuppositions
Do you mean the way he exclaims his thoughts sequentially as a speaker?
@@User18dog I think they meant that his Canadian accent is sexy af
You should hear him say "about," you'd think he was talking with regard to an item of footwear.
Poe-tenshull.
You can tell Jordan Peterson talks to himself when he lectures. So fascinating
When he wrote maps of mean he reread and retypes every single sentence 20+ times. Because he’s challenging himself find the errors or holes in his ideas. This comes across in these lectures too.
Women and men in our generation are different in this day and age... they lack the impulse and they have the impatience to pursue what’s meaningful, because to them it’s too difficult. Social media has made this world easier and it’s it to blame for.
Connecting with people is much less meaningful because of the convenience factor technology provides. People wrap themselves in pools of digital security and feel they have nothing to lose. It's so easy to run and not look back because there are just so many possibilities, or so we think. In reality, I think if we really look back, we all wish we could have tried harder. It's so easy to give up on love when you can literally call or text or summon men/women online. What is there to lose? I wish people could ask what is there to gain?
My friend (who just happens to be a shrink) had this talk tonight.
My now ex girlfriend was constantly on every social media app out there. She posts a lot of selfies. Guys would constantly comment about how "hot" she looks and everything like that, even though it showed me as her BF on her profiles. There's no boundaries anymore. And as much as she said she didnt care about the likes and comments, I knew she thrived off it.
Towards the end of the realtionship, one time when I was really letting it get to me, I blatantly told her, "All those dudes, talking about how hot you are, how they'd like to hook up, etc. They dont know you. They aint in for the long hall. They are all hit it and quit it dudes. They know the filtered you. Your filtered make up pictures. I know you. Ive seen you when your face is broke out. Ive seen you when you decide to go a day or two without shaving. I know you good mood, bad mood. And Im here. Im right here."
I know i was/am not perfect, and I should have handled a lot of things different. But Im willing to work on those things. I was working on them. It has gotten harder once more, now that im really down, but Ima fight everyday to try and better myself for me and someone to possibly share my life with. Hopefully... Seems dim in these times though.
Like you touched on, SM has taken the fight out of people. They are no longer willing to fight. After all the hot fitness instagram couples dont have to work on their realtionships. They are just perfect.
... Sorry just venting. Still fresh.
@@LordDarthSmyth brother man i feel exactly 100% on everything.
Wow this guy is amazing, the insight into life experience he has prepares you for situations when they occur
You cut the clips in awkward times of the lecture. Although I love that you separate them in topics, I think you could wait until he finishes his points. Unless you’re trying to instigate us to watch the full lecture, so then I suggest you put the link in the description. Again, thanks for doing the triage
My thoughts exactly...
Damn you are sexy as
@@dre4505 simp
@@dre4505 simp
attention seeking thumbnail.
The title of this video comes from 1:47:23 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual). He says "[you] probably need an intimate relationship." In the editing process somehow this phrase got clipped. Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
These videos are so great because they are timeless.
1:15 might explain my weird extreme desire to handle everything on my own. Even after a dozen people offer to help and I'm actually in need of that help. His thoughts really help me understand my subconscious reasons for my behavior.
Great video.
WoW this is great summarizing about what’s most important in life. If this is what he taught his students. Very good. I wish I was in class back when I was 18... I would’ve been so greatfull...
Yes, we do
We all need to discuss love and define it better. Love is a choice. We each have the power to choose it on some level. It seems like people really believe that they are supposed to find love or "fall in love". Not the case. You can't trust fleeting hormonal feelings when you need a committed and understanding relationship. You have to create a definition of love and find a woman who is willing to accept your definition and you must accept hers. I did and I've been happily married for 5 years. Hardest years of my life, but no worthy thing will come easily.
Shut up!
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Okayseeyoulaterbye
I wish i knew about this man in my 20s
😟
Same 😞
@@albertodeulofeu5277 dont worry friend. We will catch up now
@KobeR you're a legend for asking a question like this. I have no doubt you'll get everything out of your 20's that you're suppose to.
JP isn't just some internet guru he's a pretty well respected academic. And sure some of his ideas may be a bit questionable but for the most part JP gives some pretty solid advice. Having a long term relationship and taking on responsibility is by far the easiest route to meaning for most people. And the lacking acknowledgement of this fact is probably one of the primary reasons for the amount of misery many western people experience despite our material wealth
@J D well JP's advice really isn't political. Sure hes advice may align with the conservative ideology but I find that most useful advice is somewhat conservative since it implies that you have to take responsibility for yourself. Liberals blaming society for all their problems doesn't really allow the individual to do much other than be mad at its sorrundings which really isn't useful. I don't think JP suggests a one size fits all solution. But hes advice will work for the vast majority of the population. Sure some people felt trapped in the christian marriage and it might therefore not be the perfect solution for people who can find meaning in other aspects of life. But in general commiting to a long term romantic relationship is a really healthy life choice since it provides some sense of meaning in a chaotic world and seemingly meaningless existence.
You need a satisfactory relationship, many are not
0:48 this is one of my biggest issues besides ptsd from being physically abused for 10years. mom died when i was 5 and non of my romantic relationships worked out more then a few years or shorter but i really belived this is the one each time. now i have a complete identity crises and cut contact with family and friends. so deeply depressed
Every time you remember the abuse, you make it feel like it happens again. Let it go, have a fresh start over.
@@LS-lq1pc you understand ptsd i see
Jordan Peterson is just awesome and so is his daughter and his whole family
Enjoy his talks. Would argue though that some relationships (intimate or otherwise), are not meant to be long term. Sometimes we outgrow people and vice versa.
hahah that video thumbnail is brilliant ! :)
amazing
Can you please upload the following segment to finish on this particular thought. I don’t know about anyone else but it really applies to me and I can’t find the residual clip anywhere else. If you find it pls reply to this.
ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html
Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
He doesn’t understand that women are different now. Even in long term situations. Even if u never cheated, or disrespected, or abused them, or any serious irreparable mistake. They rather leave than work things out. Infinite amount of options.
I guess you are right.. she just left without even trying. And there I was thinking we were equally committed to this.
that's not women, that's humans in general nowadays, cause we always see that through, for example, tinder and other apps as such you can easily find a new mate, that might fit even better
i'd say the problem lies in the selftaught nature, that relationships usually are, most people aren't used to teaching something themselves and thus get overwhelmed
i on the other hand try to solve issues and commit to a relationship cause i don't like gambling, i always lose, and starting a new relationship, even with the prospect of it being even better than before, it's still a gamble since i don't fully know the other person
just to get back to the starting point: all humans currently suffer from overwhelming options and not knowing what to do, stumbling through relationship life, hoping it'll work itself out
on a sidenote, there is no need for these specific relationships, all throughout history there have been people devoted to many a things (science for example) but none of them were relationships, and they even led very happy lives
@@XthgiN And yet with all these options people are more disconnected than ever.
Cause we think we don't have to put the effort in if there is a new one around the corner? It's quite sad. I find it hard to make friends even cause they won't commit to spend enough time with you or would rather sit at home.
When there is a conflict that's when you can make the connection even stronger and yet we choose to take the first exit.
I feel like this is more true in large cities.. but I'm having a hard time going back to rural life. Once you have left, that connection is gone as well.
@@hgzmatt first part is pretty much what i was saying, yeah
making friends is another point entirely, since the situation you describe can be caused by many reasons, unless you know the reasons it's hard to see the option of change
some people are overwhelmed with life, thus don't have the energy for much, even if you give them options
these people actually could need some help from professionals to get more energy into their life
just wanting to sit at home and not going out is fine too, you can always try to go for gaming, no need to go out if you don't feel like going
i'm actually living in a large city, have been my whole life (so i guess you are kinda right), but i think at some point i wanna live a rural life, at least for some time, get the energy back up
it's all about balance in life, and listening to yourself, what you need and care for
I was more afraid of them saying “I’m bored” then them saying anything else... as a Chad, I’ve herd it soooooo many times about “others”... that it jaded me despite never hearing it about myself unless I “let” that happen cus it made things easier.
Make no mistake... it’s frightening n it’s shaped much of my previous life...
"The highway is for gamblers, better use your sense..." Dylan said it long ago. You can choose the deviant, non-conformist path, but it necessitates building an incredible amount of genuine trust in one's self.
That’s exactly what I was caught up on too!!!
Yes
He has helped me so damn much and helped with my relationship
"If you live completely outside the norm then people won't know what to do with you".
Very, very true. But there are positives to living outside the norm - you don't have to live up to anyone's expectations other than your own, you follow your own compass & are basically totally autonomous in everything, you're free from judgement and from all the bleating the sheep will do when they perceive you doing something wrong.
But more than likely you'll have to go it alone more often than not, if you can live with that then you're on easy street.
A man does what he does for his own reasons - period.
Where's the source video?
ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html
0:48 “fragmented” - I like the way he describes this feeling. I never liked the word “broken”.
Why didnt you like broken? I think it describes it very well and how it is, it means that you are damaged and in pain and are suffering. Fragmanted on the other hand fails to do so
@@dreamthedream8929 thanks for asking. It sounds like we could relate on what deep pain does to the soul. I suppose fragmented feels like a positive move up the emotional vibrational scale. I felt broken for a long time. fragmented feels possible to heal completely and even be a better version than I was before the pain (because I’m smarter and more experienced now). Broken felt like something was wrong with me beyond repair. Fragmented is like I have a new set of pieces to glue back together again…but the new me is better than the old me. It still hurts a lot to be fragmented, and it can take a long time and a lot of work, but healing is possible. Thriving is possible. I think I’m tired of acknowledging the pain, and am ready to embrace the newer upgraded version of myself. Somewhere through the pain, past the darkness is an experienced, wise, humbled, powerful, badass beautifully whole individual. 💎
2:40 speaking right to me.. I’m drowning right now :’( the price I paid for rejecting my family religion but not being able to resolve things
Everyone should have a soulmate. Otherwise like Jordan Peterson said, a person could be bread crumbed across time. Forever fractured without the meaningful challenges and occasional guidance of an angelic light ♐️♊️
His views, thoughts and opinions always have a way of changing lives
💯 I got a tonne of people I can be the different versions of my self around. So maybe if you had one relationship that covers all those bases to some degree you can be the version of yourself you need to be to fulfil your responsibilities?
Dr. Peterson, thank you for sharing the talk. i kind of figured out a happy person must have a trusted partner. As you said, have another brain to help to analysis situations or predict the outcome of a decision or an action. The trust must established in certain way. sometimes we do repair relationship to keep it from into more chaos, but in the process, maybe individuals just has less power than the force driven behind. I don't know much about psychology, how it affect making a decision?
sometimes when things get complicated, we are so hard to see or think things through, or just dont know what was the real truth, or we may dont want to believe something was true. But we do need guidance in our path.
Where is the rest? That was so good
Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
video ended way too early
he just started speaking his response to the question that we're here for
Remember: You Neeed Two Brain To Pass Through Life Because It's Complicated 👍👍👍
I was in something , I can't call it a relationship. We got a long great, very comfortable and warm feelings. A closeness. But he was unsure and we are long distance , about 4 hours , and he wanted the butterflies and spark. I believe comfort is better but I don't know anymore. He might be emotionally unavailable, he says he's used to his independent life and feels numb.
In 4:06, he uses the blow-up example while talking to a Muslim chick, and I can't stop laughing
4:35 Bro with m16 on his back just wanders in
Is there a link to the full talk? Felt like he wasn’t finished his thought just went it got interesting to me
Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
Brilliant just as Jordan Peterson was about to give us the solution/approach to the optimal amount of conflict the clip cuts. It’s the equivalent of taking the back page out of a who done it book. Does anyone know what the title of this lecture is taken from ?
The title of this video comes from 1:47:23 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual). He says "[you] probably need an intimate relationship." In the editing process somehow this phrase got clipped. Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
He doesn’t mean intimate relationships as romantic relationships. I’ve never had a romantic relationship nearly as fulfilling as many of my close friendships. He doesn’t mean “get a girlfriend because you’re invalid until you do”, he’s saying “have a friendship/romantic relationship/intimacy of some kind with someone you can trust to help you navigate your life,” ya dummies.
Yes.
He’s talking about long term relationships. How’s that not a romantic relationship?!
Lol the end
@@0598488 nigga do you have friends? family?
Your relationships are less fulfilling than your friendships? Jesus.. Not true at all for me. Friends never give you that much attention and care.
Yes but it could be said everyone is better off with someone.
Too random. Depends on who that someone is. Obviously you’re not better off with Jeffery Dahmer looking at you across the dinner table.
Brandon Jordan maybe your thinking too random
I’d assume someone good for you
Puer MortemEst humans are social creatures
🤷♂️
Puer MortemEst all humans are social just to different degrees
Video ends before he gives the answer nice.
Click here to pick up where Peterson left off in the video starting at 1:46:37 ruclips.net/video/6V1eMvGGcXQ/видео.html 2017 (Maps of Meaning 12: Final: The Divinity of the Individual).
Bro that thumbnail is insidious and savage 😂😅
I do agree that in order to be "happy" you need to love yourself and find happiness within yourself and not in someone else, but I also disagree how men think all women will go and cheat on them. They clearly never met ace women who aren't even interested in sex and if they stay with you it's because of what's "inside" of you. The fact that many men and women choose partners that are prone to cheating is their fault. There are many unique people that aren't interested in sex, cheating and similar stuff you just have to look for them. Generalising ALL women and men as cheaters is stupid and unfair.
Unfair assessment
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 what do you mean?
@@Vaitria would you say this same thing to your child? As a mother? That you will only bring food and water but will offer no emotional support, connection, love and care because the child has to be happy on its own? Would you do this to your family members or a pet? Can you see the absurdity of what you are saying and the implications of it? Romantic relationships are no different when it comes to this, its the same thing and in a good relationship we can get much happiness, fulfillment and inspiration from the other person. When alone we can never meet this crucial need, we can focus on other things but its still there part of our being nevertheless
@@dreamthedream8929 what the fuck are you on about mate? Different people need different needs. So are you saying ace people don't exist?
im behind a computer screen, not the lady in the video, and that eye contact still gave me anxiety 4:05
Seriously
Why did you say so 2:25 thank you ❣️❣️
I’m a 17 year old who has no meaningful relationship and I am struggling because of lockdown and no contact with anyone any advice
It’s okay, you’re only 17. He’s talking about it in the since of long term and your life as a whole. Everyone is kinda isolated from each other right now because of quarantine. I wouldn’t put to much pressure on yourself right now over what he’s saying. You’re still very young
get a dog
Don’t mind, you will find if you take care of yourself!
Enjoy your life now...spend this time getting to know yourself! In my 20s I spent years by myself and although it got lonely at times, I learned to enjoy my own company. Sometimes still prefer my own company! 😋
Son... go read "the rational male". Right. Now.
Right.... Now.
You can get it free as an audio book if you're smart.
I'm happy that I exist in the same time with Jordan P.
And vice versa
This video ended right when he was about to say something profound ... anyone know the continuation of this ? Can you post the link here ?
Thanks in advance !
Maps of meaning 12: The divinity of the individual.
Pro tip: check out video descriptions :^)
@@cbs577 Thanks, I was checking on the mobile and clicked to expand the description, nothing happened so I assumed there wasn't extra info in there. My bad.
@@navidanj hahah you don't have to explain yourself. Enjoy the video : )
At least one
I feel like I am a monster after listening to D. Peterson
JP encourages being a monster, a self created one rather than a possessed one tho, which one could argue is but perspective yet again.
Does he have any courses online?
All I need right now is a meaningful relationship. It’s so hard to start over and do it all alone.
+Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana well, you're fun
It’s hard. I know how you feel
Start small work outside ride, dance to music Ure not used to listening everyday.....then find out how to play ceramics, painting, writing......Beautiful dustractions to what U want and can't have....ure retraining Ure focus towards U....
Hi, Jordan Peterson.
Much as I respect you and your work and much as I agree that boys need a good male role model around when they are growing up, I would suggest that not ALL men need an intimate relationship.
As I see it, there is one skill that is necessary for any personal development by either gender. That one skill is the ability to self analyze objectively and constructively.
Sadly, MANY people either do not have that skill or do not use it.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
best Thumbnail ever hahaha. This pose and her head...
i only ever hear him talk about external things.
Interesting.!!
yeah he really lacks knowledge on the direct inner world
I am not a part of this system of things, though it is hard to blend in.
The thumbnail tho 😂
We have gotten so far away from this notion of healthy codependency that I think our standards are low and fear is high and perpetuates said deviations. Ironically, these points are a great remedy to quell fear.
Fear is a rational response in many situations. Men have good reasons to be afraid of women, who are after all carbon-based machines optimised over millions of years to extract resources as efficiently as possible from men by manipulating their feelings, hopes, and insecurities to the greatest extent allowed by the laws of physics. Men should go MGTOW = men guarding their own wallet.
But what do you do if no one wants to be your friend or be your girlfriend?
Keep looking, keep searching, actively, not just dreaming of doing it.
Look in the mirror.
@@UnleashthePhury and what if no one wants you because of things you can't change?
HI, - SO HE SAYS to avoid too much conflict we need to devote ourselves to a greater good, and then the video cuts off? I missed the missing link.
it is what it is
God bless you Dr Peterson. Seriously university lectures for free. Who does this shit.
Link to full lecture please?
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I like zero conflict situations myself..
Given attitudes and current laws in the U.S., not being in a relationship is as optimal as it can be.
Nolan, that used to be my thought. Until you have dealt with, in person, with the powerlessness over another human in an intimate setting, you couldn't understand. Dealing with a mental illness in another who refuses to recognize it and it's relatively high functioning otherwise for example could literally too your life apart and hurt the most fragile and innocent of people: children. Grappling with this reality has left me wondering what the hell one can actually do. When professional help {multiple} gives up, you got to question the futility of it all. You literally cannot control it, or help it, or make it better, leaving life quite painful and conflict oriented when trying to benefit the innocent ones using legal and psychological accepted guidelines.
NolanEP84
Quite simply this:
If you threaten my safety (physical, emotional, financial, psychological or spiritual), my sovereignty or my sexuality in my domain, you WILL be jettisoned ASAFP.
Not a question of "responsibility" as I put these matters up front.
We now have a class of women who believe in no uncertain terms that they can do ANYTHING they want. If you balked at my first statement, consider this:
If you can't enforce these basic things bluntly and matter of factly, what protection can you offer any offspring?
Answer: NONE
There have to be clear and enforceable boundaries. In my domain, I set those - no one else.
Enforcement is where the drama starts because most men think "putting their foot down" is how that is done. Not today.
For example, controlling your own finances in YOUR OWN HOME where you prevent overspending is now considered DOMESTIC VIOLENCE according to U.S. laws...
Think about that a second...
You do the manly thing and try to prevent fiscal and potentially familial catastrophe in the form of reprocession, eviction, job loss (negative credit WILL cost you some jobs) and YOU ARE THE VILLIAN!!!
You go to court, documents in hand, thinking the judge will see her foolishness and censure her. THEY DON'T.
Now what do you do?
In fact, in many financial jobs, her behavior could also put you in violation of FEDERAL LAW. How? SEC rules state that you AND YOUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS are barred from some certain investment activities in specified timeframes...
What happens when the nutcase "I'm to independent" shrew you married doesn't listen to you?
Thaaaats right....
YOU lose your job!
YOU lose your freedom.
YOUR credit is damaged
YOU are now homeless and as she leaves, YOU have to pay for kids you can't see and YOU are jailed if you can't pay for them.
Only accountability you have at this point is to dropkick her out of your life the FIRST time she comes out of pocket. Period.
LitoGeorge great comment! So true
NolanEP you have no clue. Good for you. Ignorance is a bliss
There was some unfortunate positioning of the camera that led me slightly off topic. I had to watch twice and am still not sure what topic was.
Ah yes, the intimate relationship. I do it everyday.
Agh! Stopped video right in the middle of the epiphany!
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Clip is cut far too short.
Thanks Internet Dad.
I bring in the hydrogen and i dont know how to change. And when people bring it on me it hurts me. I have no long term relation. I want to find meaning but im scared to act sometimes from feeling so alone. I dont think he touched on need for intimacy some have. Ironically i use to shy away from it.
The answer to that is something like ..... "Once you have decided adopt responsibility for being ....."
The rest of us will have to get round to this someday :)) LOL
Can anybody send the whole session link
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Which of the lectures from the MOM series is this from?
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@@essentialtruth2784 thank you
Maybe post the link to the original lecture as well in the description.
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Who had to look up what in the world "axiomatic presuppositions" were the first time the heard Peterson use it?
Well when learning something new there is never a question too insignificant to ask. (Did I answer with an axiomatic presupposition?)
We should not keep making the mistake of looking for happiness outside our selves, like in relationships. First and foremost be at peace with the Self. From that, anything goes and nothing is needed. Peterson is the classic western psychologist who thinks he has found new ways to rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic. But the answer is not on the ship.
How's Deb?
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Fine 🙂
I absolutely agree with you and at the same time, I think he gives very good advice for people who need to hear it. :)
The video didn't say anything about men. Why is it in the title?
can anyone reply with a link to the full lecture?
Look on his official channel you'll find it there
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nobody knows what to do with me. lol. I'm fine with that being an introvert
Introverts can handle being alone extroverts on the other hand can't
Fernando R:The problem isn’t necessarily being alone, it’s feeling lonely, which is something you might feel if you’re alone. Especially if there’s internal factors preventing you from even engaging in social behavior effectively, such as SAD(Social Anxiety Disorder) or APD(Avoidant Personality Disorder). I’ve been taking SSRI medication for it, exercising regularly, following a healthy diet, going to therapy, and trying meditation, and I still have absolutely no friends or any relationships at school or outside of it. It really just drains your soul for it to always be without another.
@@brandonleskil4523 Hey you're definitely not alone (in your particular state in life)! Based on your brief description, you situation sounds almost identical to mine; the only difference is that I'm working. But it's not just our fault...many aspects of external society simply dont take our issues seriously. "Be yourself and the world will accept you for who you are..." I was inundated with tons of these naive progressive platitudes when I was young. Incredibly misleading...
There's alot in your situation. Ud be suprised
@@brandonleskil4523 That indeed, not being alone is the problem, but being lonely is.
I've been an introvert as kid already, but i always wanted at least a FEW people in life around me.
If i'd ever get a GF, i'd like to be with her, but also would love to have my own times... but most women don't like such men, i guess, and if many do like or don't mind, i haven't seen many if any.
I'm 36 right now, btw, if anyone wants to know, and NEVER had a GF due to life taking a bad turn with my brain damage making me in some kind of zombie state, as a i call it, so missed a big part of life.
I hate when these short videos ends
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Contemporary normative guidlines relative to intimate relationships within the context of our gynocentric society are not psychologically healthy for men to adopt over the long term, statistically speaking.
Who knows the lecture that this clip is from?
Paul Berry the way it cuts off is very jarring
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Only class i would want to stay in all day at university
I just wanted to say that you are trolling with the thumbnail 😂
We do need intimacy but not as much as we need peace of mind. Must women today do not help being peace full. Must women today see men as mean to their interést. They don't want to do anything for the benefit of the man. Such as cooking. How ever they do want a man who can provide. Most women today spend their most fértil years dating bad boyz then after 30 they want marriage. Obviously this does not work.
- You need to get an LTR
- HOW?! Where?!
Go to the library. Seriously. Your local library will have discussions and talks pretty regularly (or did, prior to Covid) and you can talk to women without the pressure of being attractive and without the interference of alcohol.
It lets you be charming in a non creepy way.
Try it.
Luc Welner-Monchuk Nope. Not happening here.
Hahahaha I am going to try looking in the hardware store or food stores
Go to your local female prison.
The video cuts at a time which doesn't allow JB to finish his point.
I apologize. It was unintentional.
I wish this video didn't cut off his conclusion.
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So we're just going to ignore the thumb nail 😂😂
What if you just want to be your own self, why is that unremarkable unless you are a tremendous genius ? I’m not a genius but most things that have been set up by other people , just because the masses use them or believe them, doesn’t mean I should and I’m still a very highly productive citizen that contributes to making things better for people that I can reach out .
Which lecture is this from?
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thanks!
my axiomatic presuppositions are TIGHT brah
Can some help me and point me to a video clip from JBP where he explains in very good detail how an alcoholic creates a world for themselves and manipulates people and sucks them into their world. I need to show it to someone that it's happening to but they can't see it because they believe everything this other person is telling them. Any help would be great ? does anyone know the video I'm talking about ? please help.